What European Politicians & Immigrants Say Behind Closed Doors | Dominik Tarczyński

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1:14I said, do not come to the Polish border because you will be dead. Shot dead. That's one of my friends. He came to Poland 30 years ago from Syria. He get married with a Polish girl, raised his kids as Christians, and he told me, do not ever, ever let them in. I asked him, who? He said, Syrians. And I said, what do you mean he is Syrian? He said, but the difference between me and them is that I'm educated, I brought money, I pay taxes, I respect culture, and there are people from the desert. On the Europe front, do you see any will to do that in other countries? You're Libors, you're Democrats, you're communists.

1:46Right. And now I can hear Bernie Saunders, AOC, all these lunatics. It doesn't matter if they call themselves Democrats, social Democrats, socialists. They are communists. The lowest unemployment in European Union? Poland. Highest GBT after COVID? Poland. Zero terrorist attacks. And why? Because when this madness started in 2015, we stopped them. We did not let them in. Be like Poland or you will die. Do you think Donald Trump would really do all the things that you would want him to do that you think that the Europeans need to do?

2:23All right, I'm Dave Rubin. This is The Rubin Report. And joining me in studio today is a former two-time member of Polish Parliament, now two-time member of European Parliament, and two-time returning guest to The Rubin Report. That is correct. Dominik Tarzinski, good to see you. Pleasure to be here. Thank you for having me. And this is just the beginning. I'm just starting. Meaning you're moving to Florida? Because that's where all freedom-loving people end, you know. I love Florida. The heat. It's too much. I mean, people of Florida, how can you leave here? I mean, come on. You walked in here.

2:54I love sun, but it's too much. You walked in here dripping sweat. It's extremely hot. It's always hot this time of year. It's humid. I love it. I get it. And the first thing I asked you was, how does the weather in Krakow this time of year compare? It's beautiful. I think it's perfect. We've got proper seasons, actually. So beginning of autumn, it's beautiful because you still have a sun, not much rain. You don't have the heat. Yes. It's hard, but I love Florida, especially people here. It's beautiful. Yeah. Well, I'm glad to be sitting down with you again. Last time we did this, I think was at ARC, not the last one, but probably about a year and a half ago in London.

3:27You've been one of the leading voices out of Europe related, particularly to borders, not only for your own country, but really for all of the European Union and the mass migration problem. So we'll get into all of that. But I thought you walked in with this hat and I said, guys, let's put this on set. Because if you would have said to people to the if you would have said to the average american 20 years ago be like poland here's a hat they're just going to come up with 20 polish jokes or i would have been like who's laughing when i was in brooklyn in greenpoint a lot of polish people over there okay you could get some good kielbasa but yeah but now who's laughing and i and i think that's an interesting place to start you guys are doing something right that most of the world has forgotten true well first of all uh when you look at the data and i'm i'm trying to repeat it every single time because it's not changed it's even better actually the lowest unemployment in european union poland highest gbt after covid poland lowest rate of rapes poland zero terrorist attacks always these four pillars every single time for years i'm trying to repeat it and remind it and why because when this madness started in 2015 we stopped them we did not let them in so be like poland it's not just a hat it's not just a merch i'm trying to send a message so whenever i go i take this hat with me because i'm proud because we are an example our conservative government is an example how to deal with the problems because the main the root of the problem is and i must say that not migration itself but islamization it's a fact so because poland is the safest place in european Union, one of the safest places on earth at the moment.

5:12And it's not my political opinion. Everyone can check that on internet. It's Eurostat official data. Because of that, many investors are very happy to come. Tourism is just booming. And everyone is like, I mean, everyone, many people are sending you messages. When do you start your own tourist company? Because everyone's like, why do you always say, because why do you always, you know, repeat, be like Poland? Because I'm proud. I'm proud of Copernicus. I'm proud of Chopin. I'm proud of King Sobieski. I'm proud of John Paul II. I'm proud of our wall at the border. I'm so proud of Poland, thousand years history throughout the ages.

5:55And I'm so proud. And I am a politician, representative at this moment of history of humanity not only europeans so when someone will ask me what did you do for poland i will say i made it safe and i brought people to poland as a tourist and i made them jealous you know it's so interesting because obviously i talk to politicians from all over the world but particularly i find in europe they'll give me some version of i'm proud of my country and they talk about the past but they're not proud of what's going on now you have a nice Right. You have a nice version of that, right? And that's not to say Poland hasn't had a complex history too and all that.

6:35So you mentioned 2015 when this all went crazy related to immigration. What is it that you weren't in government at the time, were you? Yeah, that's our government. Yeah, but no, but you weren't in government personally, right. So what is it that the Polish government saw that somehow the rest of the EU seemed not to see? Well, first of all, it's not about what we've seen, but it's about our experience. First of all, as I mentioned, Poland is a thousand years' history. We've been partitioned, I mentioned it during our first conversation, 123 years of non-existence. Russia and Germany took over.

7:16We know what it means to be taken over. a hundred and twenty three years of non-existence on the map and we survived not only that after partitions we had a terrible world war ii six million poles killed all the elite killed professors priests musicians this is what we've lost then we had nearly 70 years of communism We've been taken over after the war by Soviet Russia. So we know when this kind of things are coming, because of our experience, we know what might happen. So when Germany started this madness of illegal migration, cheap labor actually, we said, no, we're not going to let them in.

8:04We are a Christian country. We are very devoted Catholics. We do not want enrichment in Poland. We are very happy as rich as we are. and everyone was like oh buddy you need the you know your birth rate is going down you need people to no we don't need that we want to be alive maybe that not as much not not as rich as others not alive so we decided okay the gbt will be going up slower there will not be a backwards but it's going to be a bit slower but we are going to be safe and what happened it's going it's booming now because of our decisions in 2015 so as you know one of our soldiers was killed with the spear they made it uh they they kill him through the vans through the vans and uh our government our parliament actually all political powers changed the law that we can use live bullets now so you know what we're doing now we shoot them if you're trying if you're trying to cross a border and harm any of our soldiers you will be dead this is what i said in the parliament i said do not come to the polish border because you will be dead shot dead it's not a joke yeah so we are we are taking the safety security very very seriously because we know that this is a war When it started, we were very clear, this is a war, hybrid war, but war.

9:38We knew that many of them were coming from Russia with the tourist visas. They were brought to Belarus, and then they were coming to our border. They were trying to kill our soldiers. We changed the law in three days, and we shoot them now. If there is a need, we use live bullets. What kind of pushback do you get from, I suppose we would call it the left in your country? Yeah, it's the left. So what kind of internal pushback do you get on that? Because when I hear you say that, to me, the thing I always say on the show is if everyone in Europe, in Germany, in Spain, in France, all these countries, if they just had a time machine and could go back 15, 20 years, everyone would do it that way.

10:14Of course. Obviously, we do have a left like every country. They cry a lot. They cry loud. We don't give a shit. Well, as simple as that. I'm serious. I mean, they do cry a lot. They tried to even help them. They were running with the pizzas to the border to, you know, to help. Literally. We've got our own AOC. We've got our own Ilhan Omar. What type of political power do they have? Left. They're in opposition, obviously. They were in the opposition at that time. Yeah. So we didn't care. And obviously, they knew that we are right because what is happening now in Poland would be like Poland. You see, now the liberals are taking, they're creating a government in Poland.

10:57But I'm still very proud to say be like Poland, because if we would not make these decisions in 2015, if we would not build a wall, if we would not create this atmosphere, do not come or you will die. Then they will be here. They will be in Poland. So what we did, we... And also your liberal party is not purely leftist. Oh, it's not the same leftist. The confusion, right, right. Of course, of course. Because Americans get confused about it. No, no, no, no. I mean, your liberals, your Democrats are communists. Right, right. I mean, I feel sorry for you. That's why I'm starting my job on this university I mentioned to you before we started, Florida International University.

11:34And I'm going to do lectures on communism in the past, present, and future. Because what I think, my personal experience is very important to share it. It's going to be more like testimony rather than teaching because I was born in 1979. 1979. I remember communism. I remember being a six-year-old kid in a queue, queuing for all night to get shoes. I didn't get them. It wasn't enough. It was like Venezuelan Cuba. I experienced communism. I know what communism is. And now I can hear Bernie Saunders, AOC, you know, all these lunatics. They are communists. It doesn't matter if they call themselves Democrats, social Democrats, socialists.

12:14They are communists. Do you think there is any meaningful distinction beyond that they have different names for it because they kind of slow roll you with the next. The actions they're taking, I mean, like they want to abolish an army, a police. They want to destroy this country. Open the borders. Obviously, that's obvious. So if you do not want public services, if you do not want an army police, you want to open borders, there's no country. You could just land. Everyone can go and come and go do whatever. there's no to me it's a pure communism because number one they want to take power full power they do not want to share power that's number one number two they want to destroy this country in the name of power because everyone knows that the great replacement we saw that a couple days ago in sweden um the great replacement pays very well with the votes for left everyone knows that We keep repeating it.

13:15Nobody does anything about it. 75 % no-go zones voted for left in Sweden, and they took over. So they don't care about their country. They don't care about future generations. They are hedonists. They're thinking about themselves. Let's take a power now. Whatever happened in 20, 30 years, I don't care. They don't even care about their own children and grandchildren. That is the problem. So the difference between us, Republicans, conservatives, right wing, is to think about next generations and leave the country better than when you started to live in this country. That is the difference. They don't care.

13:53They've got these beautiful houses. It's closed. Nobody, no one can get in. For some reason, they have guards and fences and borders. But they don't like police. But they've got private security. That's the difference. So it's, you know, sometimes when I do interviews, I'm just thinking, it's so obvious. I shouldn't even talk about it. It's obvious, like a green and red light, like a sun and a moon. It's so obvious for me, for us, for Poles. It's so obvious. It's also interesting because the policy of someone approaching the border will be shot doesn't mean you have to shoot people relentlessly.

14:28Once you send that signal out, less people show up. It's like when we were blowing up those narco boats coming from Venezuela. Suddenly less boats started coming. Exactly. Numbers drop because they know that we can, by the law, use live bullets. Obviously, we don't shoot people because just we like it. We are not animals. We don't do that. But we do not shoot people who are trying to break into our country because we hate them. We do it because we love those in our homes. Because we do it out of love. So my message, if I may, my message again, do not come to the Polish border or you will be dead.

15:05Shot dead. Do not come to the Polish border. I'm very clear for years. If you're coming, it's your own risk. Do not cry over that. Do not tell me that you were shot, you were pushed back, whatever, whatever. Do not come, there is no problem. Go to Qatar. There is no problem with that. They speak Arabic. What is the problem? I'm pretty sure Qatar is not letting these people wander in. They want their slave laborers who they take their best. Obviously. I was asking why Egypt? Why they closed their border? Why they build the wall? Very strange they don't open the door to Gaza, isn't it? Egypt, Qatar, and others, they don't want them.

15:43You know why? Because one of my friends, the guy I know, he came to Poland 30 years ago from Syria. And I give this example every single time. He came to Poland 30 years ago. He got married with a Polish girl. raised his kids as christians and he told me do not ever ever let them in i mean who i asked him who he said syrians and i said what do you mean he is syrian he said but the difference between me and them is that i'm educated i brought money i paid taxes i respect culture christian culture and there are people from the desert they do not see the difference between good and evil and you will be dead, he said to me.

16:24Do not let them in. Syrian guy who's for 30 years in Poland told me, do not let them in. So if they want to go, let them go to any Arabic country. And it's the same thing with the cultural enrichment. I was very clear and I said, until Poland will not be able to build a cathedral in Qatar, there will not be even a one mosque. Is it fair? I think it's It's fair to me. Okay, you want one mosque? We're going to get one cathedral. If not, there's no mosque in Poland. I mean, not new mosque. We've got Tatars. We've got beautiful Muslims who are in Poland for over 400 years. They fought for Poland, but we do not want jihadists.

17:05We're not going to let them in. And that's why they are calling me Islamophobe. I don't have a phobia. Phobia is irrational fear. My fear is rational. My mom's and sister's fear is rational. is based on what is happening in Europe. So it's not Islamophobia, it's a rational fear on what they are doing. When you wander through the offices of the European Parliament, and you're wandering through Brussels, and all of that stuff, and you're listening to these guys have their wine and fancy meals and talk about all this stuff, are they subtly agreeing with you? Because I cannot imagine they all enjoy giving their countries away.

17:46They do, but they would never agree. they would never agree in public what they do when we have a conversation. I know some of them. They're not my friends, but as we travel together, we're on the plane together on April, we spend quite a lot of time together. And whenever I ask them, don't you think you're destroying this country, this continent? They were like, you're right. But there is something that's driving them to do so. and uh it's not about power only i think many of them are owned i told you we had this conversation like nearly two years ago yeah nobody owns me i can say whatever i want i don't care and i think many of them are uh dependent on external powers so when you say external powers i mean obviously katar is throwing all sorts of money at well if vice president if vice president of european parliament was caught with two suitcases full of cash it's it's about 15 million euros uh she was given she she bought a private island and and she was visiting qatar many times and she was voting in the committee where she wasn't even a member and she was doing things for qatar and she was arrested vice president obviously socialist what can you expect what can you expect qatar is spending hundreds of millions to buy politicians around the world especially in european parliament not me they're buying influencers too cool that's a secondary issue but that's true too this is that's why i think um we can be right we can win wars on the ground we are losing internet thank god for your podcast thank god that i can say whatever i want you never interrupt you never we had this conversation before we started that i don't want to even know what your questions are you know because i'm gonna say whatever i want anyway and every every podcast i do or an interview i don't want to know what the questions are i mean i don't care because nobody owns me and they can call me islamophobe fascist i don't care this is what i said to Katie Newman in 2018, Channel 4, you can call me a pink elephant.

20:08It's just a word. And my mom, my sister, my future wife are safe because of my work. This is what we did in the parliament. We asked them to use live bullets, to be brave, to fight for our country, because this is our home, right? Okay, you got a home with four or six people. It's 40 million people in our home, and we're going to protect it. And if someone needs to be killed, he's going to be killed. Simple as that. What kind of pushback do you get, does Poland get from the EU? So I've had a lot of these types of conversations. I've been to Hungary several times, and I definitely want to come to Poland.

20:40Come, visit me. That would be great. We can do a report by the border. You will see with your own eyes how beautiful this wall is, how safe it is. So once you do it, yeah, let's do it together. So we absolutely will do that. But I've had this type of conversation, usually from a Hungarian perspective in that part of the world, than I've been to CPAC in Hungary and a few things like that. Now, Hungary obviously seems to be at least slightly going in the other direction right now. It's a little... Slightly. It's not a major difference. Okay, so that's nice to hear. But I know a lot about the pushback that they were getting and that it was a million euro fine a day, basically.

21:15Same Poland. So you have the same exact issue. We had 22 ,000 euros per person because, as you know, these geniuses from European Union, they created a problem. I mean, Germans. they invited them via common, via common politics, looking for cheap labor. They found out, okay, they don't want to work. They don't want to learn language. Sometimes they are blowing themselves up as a terrorist. They are using explosives. They rape, they kill, they behead people actually. So they said, okay, so we've got a problem now in Germany, well, in European Union. So let's spread them around as a European solidarity.

21:52We're going to have this quarter system. and according to your population, you're going to take numbers. We're going to take you how many you have to take and that's it. And what we said, can I swear? Yeah, oh yeah. Fuck off. We said fuck off. And we did not let anyone in. They fined us 22 ,000 euros per person, millions. So they estimated by population how many people that was. Yeah, so they get some quota and they asked us to pay 22 ,000 euros per person. We did. We did. And look at us now. Be like Poland. And it's not like we paid this money. They deducted it from general budget, actually. But we didn't get this money.

22:37So we paid for it. And it was better to pay money, be alive, safe, happy, smiled. When you come to Poland, you will not believe. What I do know, because I invite everyone to Poland, everyone, when I do podcast reports, I'm asking people who... I had a guy from Japan recently. He came from Japan asking me to do a tour. And I put the map on the table and I told him, pick up the place. Not me, you. Pick up the place. We're going to go there. You're going to film it. He picked up the places. He filmed it. He was crying. He switched off the camera and he was crying. I said, why are you crying? He says, I want Japan to be the same.

23:18And I said, I thought Japan is okay. You've got a beautiful prime minister now. He said, yeah, yeah, she's okay, but we need time to clean the whole thing. It's a huge... He was very emotional, actually. Right, and if you think of a place like Japan can't do it, they're obviously doing better, and they're... Of course, now they need time. She's the new prime minister, is better. But the fact that they have a problem... It's a global problem. It's beyond imagination, yeah. This is why when I said that this process of illegal migration, it's not about poor people looking for a better life, but this is actual hijra, Arabic term of demographic war.

23:53This is not about poor people. Look at Spain now. The guys with Balsiaga t-shirts with iPhones, they are asked, what are you doing here? I'm looking for a better life. No women, no kids. Just force in their 20s, military age, Thousands, like 80 ,000 during the weekend, it's organized. It's a hijra. It's a demographic war. So if we will not realize that this is a war, if we will not realize that we have to react. And the first thing is, in my opinion, from what I see, we have to change our language. We have to be brave to call things as they are. And if someone is calling me Islamophobe fascist, I don't give a single shit.

24:45We have to call it as it is, because the main problem is still political correctness. I'm not correct in any way. So what would you do if you were a member of parliament, let's say in Germany right now, or if you were the prime minister of Germany, or any of these countries? Let's say they can all close their borders tomorrow, because the migration in has at least slowed at this point, right? So, okay, let's say you close your borders tomorrow. You still have an in-house problem. Do you think re-emigration or remigration, whatever they're calling it, do you think that there is any chance this is going to work?

25:18I mean, you're going to really put soldiers? Do you think any of these countries will do it? Give me three days. Versus what you will do? Give me three days. Three days, the whole problem will be solved. We're going to ask for 10747 at the airport. We're going to arrest them. We're going to transport them. And we're going to send them to Nigeria, Qatar and other places. If they will not take them, we're going to leave them where they are. We're going to leave them in the countries where the plane is going to go. We're going to cut off all the contracts. We're going to start with the sanctions.

25:47And that's it. Well, El Salvador is doing good with the gang members. It was sold in one month. The beautiful, great, beautiful prison was built. Everyone is there. And that's it. There is no problem at all. You have to have a man who is ready to do things which are unimaginable for many politicians. Right. So that really is a question. If we can organize Super Bowl, right? If we can organize like millions of people for pilgrimages or John Paul II, we can organize millions, remigrations for millions in three days. We need political power. We need political strength and people who are not afraid.

26:35I would organize it. I mean, I'm in the European Parliament. I'm making really good money. I mean, we're making really good money. And I said publicly some time ago that I'm ready to be back next year because we've got election in Poland as a secretary of deportation. I would leave my seat in the European Parliament and I will organize it. And I will show the whole world how to do it. Give me three days. But you don't need to do much in Poland. No, but we still have a problem. Just to model it. Yeah, just to show them how we deal with it. Like, it's not a problem to order a pizza or the food and check the papers.

27:12Not a problem at all. You put 200 agents calling for a pizza. You're asking them to come with delivery. You check the papers. That's it. I mean, there's hundreds of ways to get over it. But the most important, that's a joke, obviously. You know what I meant. I'm being Selena, but you can organize it with the structure of your country. You can organize the whole process, but there must be a decision. Milay is doing good. El Salvador is doing good. Brazil will do the same. I had this conversation with Brazil. Right. South America and Latin America seem to be, they all seem to be shifting at the right at the moment.

27:47Yes. Brazil is a little bizarre. Hopefully they'll come around and we'll see what happens. But I still, I really hope that Flavio Bolsonaro is going to win. I mean, that would be, he promised to build the same prison as El Salvador because they got a problem with the gangs and the crime in general. So I think he's going to win. So let's say they're basically, okay, but now, but on the Europe front, do you see any will to do that in other countries? I mean, the AFD just got some nice results this past week. Like if they were to come to power, do you think Weidel and the other guy whose name I'm blanking on, the partner, do you think they have a chance to actually do something?

28:26Well, what I hear from Great Britain, what I hear from Rupert Lowe, what I hear from, even from Nigel sometimes, they are saying they're going to do it. I'm very happy, and that's my announcement, if I may. If you need any consultation with this job, I'll do it for free. I'm serious. I will do it for free. As a European, as a Christian, I'll do it for free. Just let me do it. We've got our election in a year. We do not have such a big problem because, as I said, our decisions were right and everyone is like, how can I be like Poland? Do you know how many messages I'm getting every single day? How can I flee to Poland?

29:04It's not how can I move to Poland? They are using a specific word. How can I flee to Poland? And we are peril of Europe now. We've got our problems, obviously. We are not laboratory that there is no problems at all. but when you're going to come you're going to see how safe clean there's no piece of paper on the floor i see videos all the time you know there's all these accounts that compare and contrast these different european countries and you see what's going on in poland that parades where you don't need all of the protection and you don't need barriers you can't see a police guy with it with a shotgun there's no need for that like when i do this reports and interviews i'm walking with it with the guys coming over to poland and they ask me where's your security i don't have one I don't need security.