Zohran Humiliated as Reporter Calmly Destroys His Grocery Store Plan

28 Jul 2026 · 1 h 1 min · 25 chapters

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In short

The host argues that New York City’s planned “city-run grocery stores” (announced by Mayor Eric Adams) are a socialist scheme that will fail economically, using thin grocery margins and a Kansas City trial as evidence. The episode also covers: (1) political polling showing Democrats are viewed as too liberal/leftist, (2) claims that Democratic primaries are being won by socialists/communists, (3) debate over the SAVE Act (voter ID) and John Thune’s procedural strategy, and (4) the leaked “Anthony Fauci diary,” which the host says contradicts Fauci’s public statements about COVID origins and lockdowns.

Guests (named in transcript)

None appear as interview guests. The episode references commentators and public figures, including economist Dr. Peter Saint-Ong (tweeted analysis), Harry Enten (CNN), Stephen Miller (White House spokesman), Rand Paul, RFK Jr., Scott Gottlieb, and CNBC/Hannity/John Thune clips.

Key claims

City-run groceries will lose money, drive private stores out, and lead to shortages/rotting food; Fauci privately acknowledged lab-leak/gain-of-function plausibility and recommended school/restaurant/bar closures while publicly denying; SAVE Act photo ID requirements would disproportionately affect Black voters; Democrats are too left and are losing trust.

Notable examples

Kansas City “Sunfresh” store described as empty/“rotten smell” and lacking hot food; New York Times claim that city stores won’t sell hot food; Fauci diary excerpts about calls to Bill de Blasio and Gavin Newsom to close schools/bars/restaurants; vaccination mix cited as 57% Pfizer, 40% Moderna, 3% Johnson & Johnson.

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Tribute to Dr. Richie Striano

0:45 to 3:43

Dave shares the sad news of Dr. Striano’s passing and his impact on his life.

“Quickly just want to thank all of you who subscribed yesterday, almost 2 ,000 of you.”

Introduction to Today's Topics

3:43 to 4:10

Dave outlines the main discussion points for the episode, including a grocery store plan.

“there's a series of things that are breaking right now.”

Analysis of Government-Run Grocery Stores

4:10 to 6:34

Dave critiques the government’s plan for grocery stores and discusses its economic implications.

“But let's start in New York City, which really, no pun intended, It is sort of ground zero for the craziness at the moment.”

Failures of Past Grocery Programs

6:34 to 9:04

Discussion of previous government-run grocery experiments and their failures.

“I mean, there's some just obvious stuff here.”

Critique of Capitalism's Undermining

9:04 to 12:32

Dave argues that the grocery plan is aimed at undermining capitalism and discusses its hidden costs.

“Interestingly, in that video, they point out there's no hot food in those stores in Kansas City.”

Public Perception of Democratic Policies

12:32 to 14:01

Analysis of public opinion regarding Democrats and their liberal policies.

“He wants the other grocery stores to fail.”

Democrats and Voter Apathy

14:01 to 16:00

Discussion on the Democratic Party's perceived liberalism and voter disillusionment.

“say that the Democratic Party is too liberal.”

Democrats and Voter Apathy

16:01 to 16:36

Discussion on the Democratic Party's perceived liberalism and voter disillusionment.

“Speaking of voters, which party is currently favored to win control of the House and the Senate in the midterms?”

Fringe Figures in the Democratic Party

16:41 to 22:00

Analysis of how fringe figures have gained power within the Democratic Party.

“of what's going on with the DSA and this progressive movement that has taken over the Democrat Party.”

California's Homelessness Crisis

22:01 to 26:08

Discussion on the rising homelessness in California and political accountability.

“because he wants the country to be overrun with illegals and turn us into an Islamic caliphate.”
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California's Homelessness Crisis

26:09 to 26:55

Discussion on the rising homelessness in California and political accountability.

“Like, just don't come to Florida anymore.”

Voting Rights and ID Laws

27:02 to 28:01

Debate about voting ID laws and their implications for equality.

“they don't do much when they're in session, but they're about to be off session.”

Voting ID Debate and Racial Implications

28:01 to 29:26

Discussion on voter ID laws and their perceived impact on African-American voters.

“There are about five states where it's required, right?”

Political Strategies and the SAVE Act

29:27 to 34:25

Analysis of Republican strategies regarding the SAVE Act and the talking filibuster.

“But what, and then of course, Anna, thank you, Anna, for saying something sane.”

Fauci Diaries and Public Health Contradictions

35:24 to 42:00

Examination of Dr. Fauci's diaries revealing contradictions in his public health decisions.

“Fauci's own diary, in his own words, shows he knew the lab leak theory was credible from the very first weeks of the pandemic.”

Critique of School Lockdowns and Fauci's Behavior

42:00 to 43:59

Discussion on the impact of lockdowns and Fauci's public persona during the pandemic.

“Like there is a way that you, that he could have been honest about what he did not know or what his concerns were that you might open up the diary and be like, boy, this guy really was thoughtful here.”

Fauci's Media Presence and Public Perception

44:00 to 46:04

Analysis of Fauci's relationship with the media and his notoriety during the pandemic.

“And so to see those emails where he is evidencing some pleasure in the notoriety, that's disappointing.”

The Vaccine Controversy and Political Implications

46:05 to 48:18

Examination of vaccine distribution, politics, and Fauci's shifting narratives.

“Thank you very much for the reassurance and, as always, for all of your public service.”

Fauci's Inconsistent Messaging and Accountability

48:19 to 53:15

Discussion on Fauci’s inconsistent messaging and implications for public trust.

“And if he lies, then he commits perjury, which he has not been preemptively pardoned for.”

Personal Experiences During COVID-19 Restrictions

53:16 to 55:56

Reflective accounts of navigating life during COVID-19 restrictions and the social repercussions.

“We showed you already the videos of them endlessly glazing him.”

Experiences with Mask Mandates

56:00 to 56:30

Hosts discuss their personal experiences shopping during mask mandates.

“and I would always go in without my mask and I'd be yelled at at the door and then I'd put it on and then I'd take it down and I'd get yelled at again.”

Critique of Media and Fauci

56:30 to 57:21

Discussion about media coverage of Fauci and Trump during the pandemic.

“But look at this, you know, so Tapper seems to be a little bit unsurprisingly condemned in a lot of this because he was so constantly going out of his way to defend Anthony Fauci.”

Protests vs. Pandemic Responses

57:21 to 58:08

Exploration of the contradiction between COVID concerns and protests.

“He wrote, actually Tony's pitching arm is far more accurate than his prognostications.”

Searching for Truth in Crisis

58:08 to 58:46

Hosts emphasize the importance of seeking truth amidst misinformation.

“And somehow that supersedes the COVID vaccine.”

Call to Action for Community Engagement

58:46 to 1:00:14

Encouragement for individuals to take action and engage with their communities.

“or you act completely differently privately than you do publicly, we need to push these people aside.”
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0:00Previously on The Rubin. Elon Musk and her brother are thinking about moving together. If you're an American, you're not supposed to marry your brother. Billionaires should not be able to buy elections. Well there's no other way that I could campaign. Majority have a favorable view of socialism. We're gonna call him the Paul Poindexter.

0:43All right, everybody, I'm Dave Rubin. This is The Rubin Report. It is July 28th, 2026. Quickly just want to thank all of you who subscribed yesterday, almost 2 ,000 of you. All I had to do was ask, and about 2 ,000 of you subscribed. as we know, Connor, you got the numbers for us right there. 54 % of our viewers over the last 28 days are not subscribed. I saw a lot of comments, people saying, I thought I was subscribed, Dave, I'm sorry, I didn't subscribe, how can I make it up to you? Can I live in a life of servitude, et cetera, et cetera. So I do appreciate you guys jumping in on that. And before we get to the show today, I got a little bit of bad news or actually quite terrible news yesterday that I just wanted to share with you quickly because some of you will know who I'm talking about.

1:28He was on the show once, and he's been a major influence in my life over the last two years. But Dr. Richie Striano, who did my stem cells, he passed away suddenly yesterday morning. The picture on the, go back to that first picture, the picture on the upper left there where I'm sure, that's just from a couple of weeks ago when we were doing my shoulder. The other two pictures are from about two years ago when we did my knee. and you guys know I've been you know I've talked a lot about my stem cell journey this is when we met for the first time about two years ago when he was working on my knee and and he was just a great great guy and I was I was having other shoulder problems even though we were there for my knee and he fixed all of that stuff and he didn't show up to work yesterday and they found him in his hotel room and obviously they'll find out a bit more but he was just such a warm loving happy, funny guy, Jersey Italian, great sense of humor.

2:26He loved what he did. He loved helping people. He not only helped me, Connery, come back to me for a sec. He not only helped me and my shoulder's doing way better. I still got this bump here, but it's moving. I went to PT this morning and he completely fixed my knee. But Joey, who did the filming of these videos, he had some bad back stuff and he helped Joey completely. And he's back on the basketball court. My mother-in-law had some back stuff. He helped her. My brother-in-law has had lifelong back stuff. He helped her. He was helping patients with Alzheimer's and dementia and a whole bunch of other things.

2:59And he was just the, he was the cutting edge guy in this field. And I'm quite sad this morning that he's no longer with us. He was a great man who really affected my life and you will be missed, Dr. Striano. And if you want to, and by the way, he also helped a whole bunch of you guys. I got, But when we talked about him and I did an interview with him, did you show a clip of the interview that we did with him? Tons of you reached out to him and he told me he worked on dozens and dozens of people from the show. And he would give huge discounts to people. He just, as he always said, I just wanna help people live a better life and live pain free.

3:35And he really did do that. So, Doc, wherever you are right now, we're thinking of you, we love you. And let's do a show. Okay, so obviously a lot to talk about. there's a series of things that are breaking right now. We're gonna do the usual stuff with all the craziness out of MomDami. But then this Anthony Fauci diary has leaked. Why Anthony Fauci was keeping his diary on a government server really makes you wonder. But that has now leaked. It has just ignited a huge firestorm around COVID stuff again. So we're gonna dive in and out of all that, a little save act and much more. But let's start in New York City, which really, no pun intended, It is sort of ground zero for the craziness at the moment.

4:17And for a brief second, we will not talk about Zorhan's endless jihad on Israel and the Jews. We will focus on his jihad against capitalism. And as promised, he said he was gonna bring in these government-run grocery stores. And well, as promised, he said he was gonna do it. Then he's really delayed it. Now he's not exactly sure when it's gonna happen, but he did give a press conference yesterday and somehow these magical government-run grocery stores will be 30 % cheaper than the average private-run store. Take a look. All of this leaves too many New Yorkers feeling like groceries are out of reach.

4:58And that is frankly unacceptable, which is why city government is stepping in to make people's lives more affordable. Today, I am proud to announce a collection of essential staples that will be predictably 30 % cheaper at all five of our city-run grocery stores. This core set of goods will include all fresh produce, meat, and seafood, along with 20 other essential items like cheese, milk, and bread. Here's how it will work. Once a month, our five city-run grocery stores will set prices for this core set of goods at 30 % below typical retail prices. No exceptions. No gimmicks. The savings will last for the entire month.

5:37That means no weekly fluctuations nor sticker shock at the checkout line. Okay, this guy is just so evil and slimy. You know my feelings about all of that and the fake smile and everything else. But let's dive into some of the economics. I know he also doesn't really like economics, but let's dive into some of the economics around this. So Dr. Peter Saint-Ong, who's an economist, I thought he had an excellent tweet about this. Listen to this. Mamdami announces city-run groceries will set prices 30 % below retail. Typical grocery margins are 2%, meaning, first, the city will lose ungodly amounts of money, at least 28 cents on the dollar.

6:15Second, below-cost stores will steal enough market share that real grocery stores will abandon the city. Third, taxpayers will get tired of the money hole and slash subsidies, at which point city groceries become money holes full of rotting food, so New Yorkers will have to take two trains in a bus to find a real grocery store. Socialism will work this time. Ha ha, sarcasm. I mean, there's some just obvious stuff here. So first off, the 2 % margin things, meaning groceries are running on a tiny profit margin. It's really hard with the amount of turnover, the amount of waste, you've gotta keep food fresh.

6:51And if it sits there, then you've just gotta dump it out. It's a really tight business. Think about a grocery store as a simple version, but an even simpler version would be restaurants which work at the craziest, tightest margins because you're moving in so much fresh food, you don't know how many people are coming, you've gotta refrigerate all the stuff. It's a million logistical costs of getting things there and everything else. So they're artificially, he's just magically saying, we're gonna do it 30 % cheaper, which it's not real. What he's saying is we are going to somehow through tax dollars subsidize, the government will subsidize these specific stores.

7:27By the way, again, it's only five stores. They haven't opened up yet. The city has what, eight million people in it, something like that, five stores. That's it, okay? And then you can see, as Peter points out, that then the store that's struggling to compete right now with those razor thin margins, they're gonna look over there and be like, oh, these guys are working with the government. We can't really do this anymore. And they're gonna flee the city. This is how socialism ruins everything. But don't take my word for it. We showed you this video about four months ago. Kansas City had a little trial of city-run grocery stores and it really was spectacular.

8:04It's clear this Sunfresh at 31st and Prospect is struggling. This is the first section people see when they come in. There's barely any produce. A lot of the coolers and shelves around the store look the same way, empty. So shoppers have been asking us, if the store isn't closing, then where is all the food? A rotten smell comes through the door and anywhere you turn, you'll see products that need to be restocked. No hot food or deli. There was a time this store was on life support. I could tell you today right now is damn near dead. This is a new low even to people like Pat Clark who've watched the store go through its ups and downs 30 days ago.

8:42Hell we look like a grocery store again. The city owns the Loomwood shopping center. A nonprofit operates the grocery store. Public and private investments are in the millions of dollars for the census. So surprise, surprise, the government is not particularly good at running anything. When you don't have competition, services get worse. You push out the good guys and it gets worse for everybody. Interestingly, in that video, they point out there's no hot food in those stores in Kansas City. Well, in New York already, they're preemptively getting ahead of that problem. I think we've got a headline here.

9:15I'm just reading it for you. Sorry, we don't have the image. The stores will not, from the New York Times, the stores will not sell hot food to avoid competing with local bodegas that sell prepared food. The other issue here, of course, is that if you're going to start this with groceries, why not shoes? Why not shoe stores? Why not a government-run shoe store? People need shoes. Why not toy stores? Kids like toys. We could do this all the way. Why not car dealerships, right? People need to get around. And of course, the answer to that is he would love for all of those to be taken over by the government because he is a communist, LARPing as a socialist at the moment, but he's actually a communist.

9:57And again, he does not know how to run anything. He never ran even one single store. And that's the craziest part, beyond the obvious like their desire for communism and jihad and everything else, is that all of these young backwards thinking people are voting in people who've never accomplished anything. Oh, they say things we like, that's great. that doesn't mean they know how to do anything. So you might want, Zorhan, you might wanna bring in some people who know a little something about running grocery stores, getting those margins to go from two to three, know something about competition.

10:32How can we streamline or make the logistics more efficient from the farm to the store, et cetera, et cetera. But it's none of that. It's just 30 % sounds good to everybody. And by the way, Zorhan, you loser, the communist behind you is gonna say 35%. And then your head will be on the chopping block too. Here is Zorhan getting called out for spending millions on these grocery stores that will not work as opposed to funneling the money elsewhere to programs that might actually put the food on the table for the New Yorkers. It sounds like what you're essentially offering these purveyors of grocery services is you cover the property tax, you build out the building, you cover any sort of recurring rent, but they have to bring in the food, discount it a certain amount, high quality of wages.

11:21I mean, these are millions of dollars effectively shuffling back and forth. So I'm wondering why not just spend these millions of dollars and give to agencies like the Campaign Against Hunger or City Harvest or just direct established food programs. We see in this city an opportunity to take an all-of-the-above approach. We are going to continue to work with incredible partners like the ones that we're here with today as well as ensure that food pantries across the five boroughs can flourish. It's just words. It means nothing else. I don't know who that journalist was, but that was the right program.

11:55That was the right question. There are programs in New York City already that help poor people get food and food pantries and things of that nature. So if you're going, again, he wants you to think 30 % off and it's all free. It's not free. The rent of the building is someone had to buy the building, right? Like all of these things, they are just hidden costs. But the question was right, because the argument should be, if your goal is, I want more people to have access to, let's say, cheaper or free food, there are systems in place to do that already. What he's trying to do is destroy capitalism.

12:32This is what they are trying to do. He wants the other grocery stores to fail. He wants Gristides or Food Emporium or whatever's left in New York City. I think they probably still have a couple Trader Joe's. He wants them to not be able to compete so they will fail too, so then he can turn around and go see, capitalism sucks, you need us. We need to give you more of these things. And by give, we really mean take. Now, interestingly, as we've pointed out several times over the last couple of weeks, The average American is not for this. Yes, this young, radical base of brain-broken, purple-haired lunatics are for it, and they are organizing extremely well in winning primaries, but the average American isn't for it.

13:20So here is Paul Poindexter or Datadork, I let you make the decision yourself, Harry Enten, and I'm pretty sure they've been watching the show because watch Harry Enten here. First off, he's a little calmer. As Phoenix said to me right before the show, it appears that whoever's pulling the strings on his marionette is a little less jumpy today. And also he's half shaven now. I think they have, I am not kidding, I think at CNN they've been watching what we've been saying about this data dork and they're trying to get him to calm down. Take a look at this trend line. Voters saying that Democrats are too liberal.

13:51In 1996 it was 42%. In 2013 it was 58%. Now the clear majority of Americans believe and the clear majority of voters say that the Democratic Party is too liberal. 57%. Democrats have the biggest red flag. Look at this. It's apathy. Not believing that Democrats can change anything. Because the impacts of Democratic policies on your cost of living, only 41 % say help. Hurt or wouldn't change it. The clear majority, nearly three in five. 59%. So, look, these are all the red flags. If, in fact, Democrats can't take back control of either the House and or the Senate, and if Trump can stop him, this is what's going on.

14:34I'll get to the substance of that in a second, but I think I'm right. I think they've been watching and they were like, dude, come half-shaven. Have your neck be a little messy over here. Calm down a little bit. Maybe he looked like he was on a bender. Maybe he was on some data bender. He went over the weekend to like some data conference and it was just nuts. They were up all night carrying the one and then he showed up half-shaven. Anyway, the point of what he was saying is people don't trust that the Democrats know what they're doing. I always, you know, I hate when they use the word liberal in the sense, because it's not that people think it's become too liberal, it's that they've become too leftist, but I've given up that argument of trying to save the word liberal over the years.

15:10Liberalism would be that they would be for individual rights and laissez-faire economics, but that's a whole different topic. But okay, so this is good. So what we are seeing here is okay, the radicals seem to be winning the primaries. The radicals have a huge amount of energy around them when it comes to what the media is focusing on. Obviously what we're talking about, they have horrible ideas that must be exposed. There are a bunch of people who, as I just said, they've never accomplished anything and they're just out there with their ideology. And that, in some ways, that's the most dangerous type of person, right?

15:39Because the road to hell is paved with good intentions. So you get somebody who, I want Medicare for everybody. I want minimum wage to be$50. I have great intentions. I wanna help everybody. Oh, I've never actually done anything. And then next thing you know, the car just drives off the cliff. And I suspect that is gonna happen in New York City very quickly. We will leave that there and continue in just a moment. But first, an ad from our friends at Kalshi. Speaking of voters, which party is currently favored to win control of the House and the Senate in the midterms? Here's what the Kalshi markets are showing.

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16:50Here is White House spokesman Stephen Miller. Really, I think once again, just quite clearly explaining how the fringe has been dragged to the center when you're talking about the Democrats. AOC, Bernie, the Squad, Omar, these are people who even 10 or 15 years ago would have been relegated to the outer extreme fringes of the Democrat Party. They're now the center of the party. They're the heart of the party. They're the soul of the party. So the Democrats have become a party of freaks, weirdos, losers, and crazies. But you can't laugh it off because it's deadly serious. When you give these people power, everything you know and love in this world falls apart.

17:32And all the recent primaries that have been contested in the Democratic Party have been won by socialists and communists. And to your point, Minus Fetterman, not a single leader in the Democrat Party has been willing to condemn the Democrat Socialists of America, again, who represent an ideology that in the last century killed tens of millions of people. Okay, so he is completely right on all of that. First off, yes, communism kills a whole bunch of people to get that, because to get that perfect system, people aren't perfect, and you have to kill people who won't behave. That's number one. Number two, he's completely right.

18:06These people were fringe figures. Even Bernie Sanders, I know it's hard to remember, but Bernie Sanders was a fringe figure for years. He was sort of the lefty wackadoodle. Oh, he's over there in Vermont, and let him hang out over there, and he's a crazy nutbag with his wacky hair, and we'll let him on stage every now and again. But he now is the driving, his ideology is the driving force behind the party. But soon enough, Bernie, they will be done with you because you're not full. Yes, you have an obsessive hatred of Israel. You're still a Jew, Bernie, although most Jews don't really want you on the team.

18:41So you're not a full jihadist. So eventually they'll take care of you too. But his point that they've become radical, you know, yesterday, our show yesterday was a perfect example of that. We showed you videos of Bill and Hillary Clinton, 2005, 2006, talking about strong borders, talking about things that now are thought of as hardcore right-wing Republican stuff. We showed you videos of 1992, Bill Clinton, Al Gore talking about borders, right? Like they are the ones that have lost their mind. And I've been wanting to throw this back to this video lately, but this video is an even more perfect example of all of this, because in the 2020 Democrat primary, in the Democrat primary, when they decided, right, well, this is right before they decided to hand the whole thing to Joe Biden and cut all their deals.

19:30Listen to what Pete Buttigieg was saying about Bernie. And the only candidates left standing will be Bernie Sanders and Mike Bloomberg, the two most polarizing figures on this stage. And most Americans don't see where they fit if they've got to choose between a socialist who thinks that capitalism is the root of all evil and a billionaire who thinks that money ought to be the root of all power. Let's put forward somebody who actually lives and works in a middle class neighborhood in an industrial Midwestern city. We shouldn't have to choose between one candidate who wants to burn this party down and another candidate who wants to buy this party out.

20:12We can do better. Wow. Wow, Pete. And you know what, Pete? Yesterday we showed you that video, we played that video of you and you were like, you know, there are 10 or 15 people on our side who are further left than me and they're a little wacky. And what did I say? Well, name them. So now I dare you to name Bernie Sanders. Name these guys. Pete, if you believe what you just said right there, that there was a bunch of people that wanna burn it down and you purposely said burn because of Bernie, right? And the whole light, and you called him a socialist and a socialist who thinks capitalism is the root of all evil.

20:44That's your party right now. So Pete, I'm not gonna support you, but I'll offer you some cover. If you wanna come out now, you already came out once, come out now. It won't be that hard second time around. Actually, this will be much worse than just coming out as gay. Coming out as a Democrat against socialism, good luck with that. But you have an opportunity. You have an opportunity right now to be like socialism is bad. That's what I believed six years ago. And Bernie does wanna burn it all down, that's right. And actually you took a fair shot at Biden that he was just the corporate candidate, that everyone were gonna cut their deals.

21:18And by the way, you did cut a deal and that's how you ended up transportation secretary. But it's one thing to look back on 1992 and go the Dems were saying back then, but Pete, you're still in the game, right? Al Gore and Bill Clinton and the rest of them, they're gone. You're still in the game. So what happened over the last six years where you thought socialism was terrible and you were attacking Bernie and now you're all in on it. So get some balls right now, Pete. And I actually think you could have a potential future as the leader of a saner Democrat party. Whether I support it or not is irrelevant.

21:52I'm giving you some advice for your own career because the rest of them are going crazy. Here is Michigan Senate candidate Abdul Al-Sayed. And of course, yes, he wants to abolish ICE because he wants the country to be overrun with illegals and turn us into an Islamic caliphate. I've said that we need to abolish ICE. ICE is not about immigration. ICE is not about the southern border. We can have a safe and secure southern border. We can also enforce immigration policy. But ICE is not about that. ICE is about normalizing paramilitary force on our streets. The idea that somehow we can't say abolish ICE because we're so afraid of what they're going to say when we've seen ICE terrorize people in our streets, to me, is exactly the kind of cowardice that we don't need from Democrats.

22:34So yeah, I'm going to take the bullhorn and I'm going to say that I think we need to abolish ICE because I am not afraid of what they're gonna say about me. Okay, first off, we can have a border and that doesn't mean we need ice, except you guys were in charge. And please, internet sleuths, do a little search. In the four years that Biden was president, when they were letting in probably 20 million people, did Abdul Al-Sayed, who was pretending to be a doctor, did he tweet once about the open border? No. So they say things afterwards when they realize they're starting to become popular, right?

23:03The average person doesn't think we should have an open border, thought the country was being ransacked. And now you're coming around to that. And ICE is not a paramilitary force. They're doing their job. Why is it that you never care about the young girls who are raped and murdered? Why don't you care about the children who are trafficked, the people who are bringing in fentanyl, et cetera, et cetera? I think perhaps you don't want ICE because ICE might start looking in Dearborn, Michigan. And I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume that you wanna be senator for Michigan. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume that some of these people are illegal.

23:36up to no good and they're supporters of terrorism and everything else. That would be my guess, Abdul Syed, but I'm just a simple guy with some crazy theories. But let's jump over to the West Coast, California, where, as you know, they had a chance. They had a chance. They could have had Spencer Bratt. Instead, they will either have Karen Bass, who's been part of the implosion of the city, or even crazier Nithya Raman, the woman who, as you know, on election night, conceded in tears and then magically found herself herself back in the race. Well, Karen's in a little bit of trouble because suddenly that homeless problem that she was pretending didn't exist.

24:14Well, the numbers are ticking up once again. Karen, MB, this really is a setback for LA Mayor Karen Bass and really for our entire city. After hundreds of millions of dollars, programs, promises and strategies tonight, there are more homeless people on the streets of LA than last year. Tonight, new numbers from the LA Homeless Services authority reveal compared to last year, homelessness is up 3.4 % citywide and 7.9 % for people living outdoors or in their vehicles. That's according to the LA Times. The mayor in a statement tonight blaming several issues, including funding cuts at the federal and state levels that pushed more people into the street.

24:57Oh, of course. Why are there more homeless people? Why the numbers going up, it's funding cuts. They just didn't have enough money for the homeless people. It is complete absurdity. Karen Bass, I can't say you created this problem, right? Because the problem's been going on long before you. Garcetti was there when I was in LA and there were plenty of other, it's a Democrat run city and you guys have all been part of this. And I would also gladly blame the governor, Gavin Newsom because he destroyed San Francisco with homelessness when he was mayor there. You guys have done everything wrong. You have created economic conditions for people to fail.

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25:33You don't do proper policing. You don't arrest druggies. It all adds to the toxicity and hope. I don't even know what should happen in LA. Actually, what would be the right thing to, in a weird way, I don't care, but it is still America. And I know there's a couple, I don't know, Bill lives there, he's cool. Like there's a couple decent people that still live in LA, but think about what LA is up, what their options are. Their options are you can have a lefty progressive lunatic who has done nothing right in the city and been absolutely awful and homelessness is going up, or you can have Nithya Raman, who's even worse.

26:09Like, just don't come to Florida anymore. Can we just, the moratorium, man, enough of you people, frankly, it's just enough. Let's talk about balance of nature for a minute, and then we will dive into the SAVE Act and the media narrative, which of course is total nonsense. You've probably heard people talking about getting more nutrients in your diet, but actually doing it consistently that's the hard part. That's where Balance of Nature makes things simple. You're getting real phytonutrients, the natural compounds found in fruit and vegetables that give them their color, taste, and nutritional value without having to overhaul your entire routine.

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27:15There will just not be enough momentum running into the midterms. And then what happens to Trump and the Republican party and every, it just could be an absolute disastrous bloodbath for the future of the country. So Trump has made it a priority, basically, of trying to get every single one of these Republicans to not only vote for the SAVE Act, which again, you just need the simple majority, so you don't even need all the Republicans. You need basically everybody, but you also have the tiebreaker with JD, but you need John Thune to get off this talking filibuster thing. We'll get to that in just a second.

27:45But first, Conor offered them up a warning. We are going to show you the ladies of The View and sunny something something, black people don't know how to vote. I actually, I will tell you, I, like most Americans, I am in favor of requiring some sort of government-issued ID. Maybe it's because I live in Florida, where it is a requirement, and for me, it's such a non-issue. There are about five states where it's required, right? No, no, no. It's about 36 states. It's 36? You know, the reason that I am not in favor of the SAVE Act, in New York, you don't, it's not required to have any sort of ID to vote.

28:18I believe that it will disproportionately affect African-American voters. If you know your history, it reminds me of having to count jelly beans in a jar. It reminds me of having to take citizenship, answer citizenship questions for black people to vote. I'm sorry. Are black people equal to white people? I think so. Which apparently has become the far right position that black people and white people are equal. I think black people know how to get on planes. I think they know how to drive cars. I think they know how to go to clubs at night and show an ID to prove how old they are. She seems to think still that if you have to show an ID to do something, that that will affect black people.

28:59This is the same thing about, what was it, Kathy Hochul, who said black people don't know how to operate laptops. I've seen a black guy on a laptop. What's the other one? The other big one was that black people don't know how to get to Kinko's to photocopy something. We still have that printer here, by the way, which I've been waiting. If you are a young black person out there and you're having some sort of problem voting or photocopying, I will offer you a printer for free. I'll even pay for the shipping. Nobody wants to take me up on it. And it's probably because the price of printer ink is just so bananas.

29:27But what, and then of course, Anna, thank you, Anna, for saying something sane. You know, you're into elections because yes, you live in Florida. And in Florida, you walk into the election. Hello, I'm this person. Oh, you've compared what I'm showing you on my card to the registry you have right there. And then someone walks you over to a thing and you fill out a paper ballot. You put it in something. It gets stamped. you then bring it over to something else, put it in it. Someone smiles at you, thank you. You feel good about everything. Election announced within usually half hour, hour of when it happens.

30:00So Sonny, I get it. You're racist. You're an idiot. You seem to think that black people are less than. I don't. You do. But even all of that aside, in a city where the mayor is saying we are a sanctuary city here for illegals, why would you not want some idea to make sure illegals can't vote unless you want illegals to vote because you know illegals will vote for Democrats because Democrats will keep giving them crap. Here, we're gonna show you two videos of John Thune because he's kind of the, he's sort of the fly in the ointment, let's say for Donald Trump right now because he is the Senate majority leader.

30:37They can try to make this thing happen with a simple majority vote. He is hung up on this talking filibuster issue. So we're gonna show you two things here. First, here he is with Hannity. Take a look. Well, I think probably the best path to success is through budget reconciliation. And we can't do everything in budget reconciliation, but we can do parts of it. The one thing about the talking filibuster, and it hasn't been used in something like 100 years, people point to the Civil Rights Act of 1964, that it actually was done under regular order. They invoke cloture, passed it that way. But you turn control of the floor over to the Democrats.

31:13It's not only unlimited debate, it's unlimited amendments. And the Democrats will have a long list of amendments. And so every time they get an amendment, get it considered, gets disposed of, the clock resets. Every Democrat can give two hours of speeches. So that's 47 times two, 94 hours of speeches. And then every time you have a vote on an amendment, you go back, start all over again. So the Democrats, this is something that they're salivating over the opportunity to have is a talking filibuster. So that isn't the best path in my view. OK, so what he's talking about there is procedural stuff, right?

31:46so that 47 Democrats, if you leave the talking filibuster, each one of them get a two hour talk time per amendment, and then it would reset every time a new amendment came. So his argument basically is if you blow this thing up, they'll never, if you allow them to have the talking filibuster, that they'll just delay this thing forever. There might be some truth to that. There might be some truth to that, but he has got to exert political will right now. So before I editorialize any further, let me show you one more clip from that. And frankly, I don't think we probably have the votes in the Senate among Republicans even to get on a talking filibuster.

32:25But I do think we have a possibility through budget reconciliation to get some of this done. If you could go either way, are you as leader, are you trying to work with the rest of the Senate to get it done? We are. And I think, you know, we've had it up now. It was a pending business in the Senate for over two weeks, late February, early March. We had five votes on it. We voted on photo ID. We voted on photo ID and citizenship to register. We voted on the entire SAVE Act two different times. And we also voted on no boys and girls sports. So we've had five votes, portions of or all of the SAVE America Act.

32:59The problem we have is we have no Democrats. The Democrats' block voted against it, in spite of the fact that there are at least a dozen Democrats, and I have the quotes, who have come out publicly and said they're for photo ID. But when they actually got a chance to put up or shut up on the floor of the Senate, they all voted no. All right, so if you're a little confused by what he's saying there, and if it sounds like he's talking out both sides of his mouth, that's the way I'm reading it. I don't get it. If your argument is you're never gonna get the Democrats no matter what, then you may as well, which is basically what he's saying.

33:28He's saying, oh, I have these 12 Democrats who are kind of for this, but he knows no Democrat is going to move on this. Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe you get Fetterman. And actually Fetterman is not even great on this, as far as I understand it. So that's one thing. as the other thing related to the talking filibuster is if you think they are just going to abuse it, then you may as well blow it up. Like you guys have an opportunity right now to stop a group of people who are telling you they wanna pack the courts, they wanna take out the legislative branch of government, like they wanna open up the borders, they don't want people to vote with IDs.

34:06Like you have a little moment to do it and I suspect if it all fails and we lose the midterms, we're all gonna go, boy, that guy really dropped the ball, but I would prefer not to be in that situation. We, but again, I'm still a little confused about his overall strategy here. And it sounded like he was going in two different directions in from what we just played you right there. All right, let's talk about monetary gold for just a minute. And then really the big story that's blowing up online right now, which is this Fauci diary that don't put your diary on a government server, people. Come on.

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35:13Call 1-800-888-4096 to claim your complimentary holdings review today. Once again, that's 800-888-4096. All right, the Fauci diaries are here. Sounds like a terrible tween movie. Listen to this from Rand Paul. Dr. Fauci's own diary, in his own words, shows he knew the lab leak theory was credible from the very first weeks of the pandemic. 10 of 12 scientists on his call believed deliberate insertion was possible. He wrote that the wet market was never the real source. Then he spent the next two years telling the American people the opposite and smearing anyone who disagreed as a conspiracy theorist.

35:55That is the definition of a coverup. On Wednesday, under subpoena, Fauci finally has to answer for it. Okay, let's go with a bit more on this. As you know, well actually, tell you exactly what happened. You know that Fauci said that the NIH does not fund gain of function research. We've shown you that video a million times. Everyone's seen it. Well, listen to this from the House Oversight Committee, from the House Oversight Committee. In 2014, the National Institute of Health NIH awarded EcoHealth Alliance a grant to study bat coronaviruses, allowing the nonprofit to test coronavirus transmission by using reverse genetics.

36:34EcoHealth Alliance then awarded taxpayer funds to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And wait, do we have the video? We do have the video, right? Or no, we're not gonna show you the video right now. You've seen the video a million times. And then here is a tweet from Rand Paul talking about what may happen tomorrow. If Anthony Fauci lies before Congress on Wednesday, as he did in previous hearings, his preemptive pardon won't cover him. I don't know if that is actually true. I don't know exactly what a preemptive pardon covers, but now, yes, we do have the video. We do have the video. Okay. What we're alleging is the gain of function research was going on in that lab and NIH funded it.

37:14That is not away from it. It meets your definition and you are obfuscating the truth. I'm not obfuscating the truth. You're the one. I'm not obfuscating the You're the one. I'm not officating the truth. You're the one. Again, we just read it right there. They funded EcoHealth through NIH, and they were working on gain of function research relayed at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. You get it. So he did lie under oath, or at least was as loose with the truth. He was really working those rubber bands too, as you possibly could be. Here's a bit more from Anthony Fauci's diary. I spoke with Bill de Blasio, Mayor of New York City, and convinced him based on what I was saying publicly and my conversation tonight, to close the New York City schools.

37:59He had already decided based on what I was saying on TV. I went on to tell him he should close the bars and restaurants in New York City. He said he would base this on my recommendation. I had a similar call with Anne O 'Leary, the COS of Governor Gavin Newsom in California, and said that based on my TV appearances today and yesterday, the governor has decided to close the schools in California as well as the bars and restaurants. When I left the White House and crossed Pennsylvania in 17th, several cars honked their horns and shouted, thank you, out the window. Oh, how one, thank you. Our children can't go to school.

38:31I can't have a beer. Thank you, doctor. Thank you, doctor. Of course, there's a million videos of him saying that he never shut anything down. Here's just one of them. I wonder if you would recommend locking down schools if you had to do it all over again. Well, you know, again, it's, first of all, I didn't recommend locking anything down. You're asking me questions. It's in your own diary, which you left on government servers, buddy. So did you or didn't you? Let's also not forget that, what, two, three months into it, there was the email that was leaked. It was my favorite one where his buddy is like, I'm going on vacation.

39:09Do my kids have to wear masks? And he says no. And then he's telling us all to mask up. Also, six-foot social distancing was completely made up. It was all, it was such an assault on everything decent that we almost can't look back on it with clear eyes, that you could walk into a restaurant, and when you were walking into the restaurant, you had to have a mask on. When you sat down, suddenly you could take the mask off. When you were on a plane, if you were eating, it was okay, but then in between bites, they wanted to put it back on, and also the mask would allow air to come in this way or that way, and all of it was completely and utterly insane, and he was the architect, or at least the prime mover of all of it, as he says in his own diary.

39:49Rand Paul put this up yesterday, see you in two days. And that's one of the many articles from, in this case, InStyle Magazine glazing, look at him. He's just lounging around, you know, locking your kids down and killing grandma and doing it in the name of health and science while he chills with his exposed brick wall, which I don't even understand the phrase exposed brick. People used to love exposed brick in New York City. It's just brick. If it was hidden, that would be something, but it's just brick. Anyway, here's RFK Jr., a guy who does not like Anthony Fauci very much. He wrote an excellent book about Anthony Fauci.

40:26Here he is exposing a bit more of the discrepancy between what he was saying privately in his own diary that he left on government servers versus what he was telling the public. I think the starkest impression that you get from reading these diaries is this massive dichotomy between what he was saying privately and what he was simultaneously saying publicly. He says in his diaries on January 30th that the Wuhan lab could not possibly be the source of the virus. Oh, I know that was awful. Well, we all know it, but now his diary, he says he knew that. I mean, the worst part is that giddy narcissism that you see throughout the diary is juxtaposed against really bad public health decisions.

41:20So his focus was on self-promotion, clearly. And nobody can read these diaries and say this is a political response. His focus was on promoting himself, on getting on TV and not doing public health. You know, Bobby's making an interesting point there because, you know, if you, there's tons of stuff leaking about the diary, maybe we'll call, read some more of it tomorrow. But if Fauci had not been sort of an egomaniac about this and been excited to close things down, and then he's, and of course he lies about all of it. But what you would find in the diaries, you know, I was very conflicted about these things that you like, imagine if in the diary it had been, you know, I wasn't really sure about the science on this and we didn't know what to do about schools, but we really just didn't want to risk that suddenly all of these kids would get sick or that the kids would be transmitting it at school and then bring it home to their parents who were older, or some of them might be caregivers for their grandparents.

42:14Like there is a way that you, that he could have been honest about what he did not know or what his concerns were that you might open up the diary and be like, boy, this guy really was thoughtful here. Everyone went a little crazy. Let's cut him some slack. But you're actually, as Bobby points out, you're getting the complete reverse of that. He's excited about getting cars honking for him and getting on InStyle magazine and that he, remember he went to a baseball game without a mask while he was telling us to mask up and everything else. And if you could go back to videos that I did four years ago, what I kept being amazed by was, how is it that you're gonna tell me that the most locked down school in Los Angeles with these neurotic, lunatic, lefty parents and everybody's walking around with a mask and everybody's social distancing, all those things, that their numbers were no better than some random village in Africa somewhere.

43:05And they weren't. That's the thing. That's the thing. He also managed to have time to film a two-hour National Geographic documentary about himself. Why don't I get one of those? Former FDA commissioner, and this guy's not great, to be quite honest. He's also on, he's currently on the board of Pfizer. And it's like, should the former FDA commissioner be on the board of Pfizer? We can have all sorts of thoughts about that. Scott Gottlieb. Here he is now, and you can see there's a, there's going to be a moment right now where everyone's gonna try to throw Fauci under the bus because this really looks bad.

43:40So Gottlieb was kind of in bed with him, but watch this from CNBC. I thought it was disappointing. Part of it that also disappointed me was how much he enjoyed the media associated with, the event and his own appearances. I think a lot of us went on to media out of a sense of obligation. It was a hard time for all of us. I know it was a hard time for you. I think a lot of us felt an obligation to inform the public, and it wasn't particularly enjoyable. I mean, I got a lot of threats. Others did associate with that. And so to see those emails where he is evidencing some pleasure in the notoriety, that's disappointing.

44:17Yeah, I mean, it's disappointing, but you all kind of became famous. Again, you're on the board of Pfizer, which is the vaccine that became sort of the main vaccine, right? There were three vaccines originally, Moderna, Pfizer, and Johnson & Johnson, and then basically Johnson & Johnson, which was an mRNA, so it was actually the safest and most tested. That got completely pushed to the side. Do we know what percentage of vaccines were Pfizer or Moderna? Can we check on that? And you guys were all kind of doing it. And I suspect while you're throwing him under the bus right now, and probably deservingly so, that you probably enjoyed a little bit of the fame yourself.

44:54We'll get you the numbers on the vax percentages in just a second. But here's a compilation. When you say, well, why is it that Fauci enjoyed going on the media so much? Well, look at this compilation of the media glazing the guy. The single most respected voice in the pandemic is Dr. Anthony Fauci. The man who's become known as America's doctor. The nation's top infectious disease expert, Anthony Fauci. You are seen to many as a superhero. Dr. Anthony Fauci, American hero and New York Yankee fan. You've done so much for this country in terms of this crisis, so I really appreciate your insight.

45:27Who better to give us answers that we can trust than Dr. Anthony Fauci? The perfect person to answer our questions today. Joining us now, Dr. Anthony Fauci. Dr. Anthony Fauci, appreciate your candor. Dr. Fauci, appreciate the candor. We appreciate your service to this country. We appreciate your service. Thank you for your service. Thank you for your service. Greatly appreciate your service to America. Thank you for your 37 years of service, I believe, to seven presidents. And thank you for your work over the past year. The great news is you're sticking around in the Biden administration. We are so grateful to you, Dr.

45:58Fauci, for everything you do. Thank you so much for everything you do. Thank you very much for everything that you do. Thanks so much for the work that you do. Thank you very much for the reassurance and, as always, for all of your public service. Thank you, Dr. Fauci. You know, I'm going to try to take the best version of Fauci here for just a second, right, which obviously is not really what I believe. but if you were looking at this in the most gracious way to the guy, you might say, okay, so he was a public servant. Let's say he was basically good. He got into this to basically do good. Maybe some things went a little sideways or whatever, but then there's a pandemic and he's again, let's say just trying to angle himself to do something positive, right?

46:36Now I'm not going on some crazy conspiracy here. Then you go on all these TV shows and every time you show up on a TV show, even though you don't know exactly what you're doing or whatever, they just keep telling you how great you are. And then you wake up in the morning in the middle of a pandemic, you have a crazy amount of power and you can just go on TV and people can thank you and glaze you and give you a hand job, basically. You might show up again and keep doing it, right? Like that's, I think, I don't think that's like a crazy conspiracy version of it. I think that's a somewhat probably realistic version of it.

47:08Just the numbers on the Vax is just out of curiosity. So it's Pfizer was 57 % of the vaccines were Pfizer made, 40 % Moderna and only 3 % Johnson & Johnson. And again, Johnson & Johnson was the non-MRNA one, which was the most tested and that's the one that they pushed completely out of the way. Phoenix just brought up an interesting point that, as it pertains to the preemptive part of the pardon. So he was preemptively pardoned by Biden, Autopen. but what Rand Paul might be doing right now, and this seems right to me, is if you're preemptively pardoned, you're pardoned for everything you did in the past, but he's going to be under oath tomorrow and he cannot commit perjury tomorrow because he hasn't been pardoned for that yet.

47:55You understand it's a time issue. He's been pardoned for everything that happened previously. Now Rand Paul has the diary, we have more information and he will be able to question him on things again and reference that to the old answers. And if he does not answer those things truly, then he could be committing perjury, something that he would not have been pardoned for, right? So if he tells the truth, it appears that it will prove that he lied in the past, right? And if he lies, then he commits perjury, which he has not been preemptively pardoned for. Did I get that right, Connor? I think I said all the words in the correct order.

48:30It's tough, it's tough. You know what I'm saying? And anyway, here is an edit showing Fauci in 2024 versus what Fauci thought in 2021. I mean, it's just, you've seen so many of these, but in that this is hot right now, it's worth watching again. We got the flu for 14 days. She's as protected as anybody can be because the best vaccination is to get infected yourself. Vaccines are highly efficacious. They are better than the traditional response you get from natural infection. The estimate is that you'll need about 70%, maybe 75 % of the people in the country vaccinating to get that umbrella of herd immunity.

49:09Let's say we get 75%, 80 % of the population vaccinated. I say between 75 and 80, 85 % of the population. The number could be 90, it could be 85. We don't know what it is. Just get as many people vaccinated as you possibly can. And when you get control, that'll be the number. Okay, I misspoke. Obviously, the first thing that we showed you there was 2004, I think I said 2024, but okay, and again, he's going all over the place. The numbers were always changing, the goalposts were always moving, but why did he go from, oh, the best defense against this thing is getting sick, and we all know then your system starts working and gives you natural immunity, to then suddenly saying, oh, you've got to be vaxxed.

49:56And the thing is, once that became the norm in society, then we had politicians who were saying it repeatedly and lying about it. You all remember this, this is from June of 21. I remember watching this live, knowing that Joe Biden was lying. You're okay, you're not gonna get COVID if you have these vaccinations. The vaccine you will not get nor transmit COVID. We knew that was wrong. That was quite literally the video that I tweeted out and said that they're lying and that mandates are coming. And then we know the OSHA mandate came and everything else. And that's what got me temporarily banned from Twitter.

50:33This is also quite interesting. Here is RFK saying that Fauci himself may have suffered a COVID vax injury. He got vaccinated, a very, very public press conference in January of 2020. And then five months later, he had, and this is the first time that we knew this from the diary, he had a pulmonary infarction, which is one of the adverse events that NIH, CDC, and FDA said are expected from the vaccine. He never told anybody. He got treated for it privately by the best doctors in America. At the same time, he was telling everybody that that was not an adverse event. Did you catch that pulmonary infarction?

51:20it's one of the admitted potential side effects of this vaccine and he hid that information. Like to me, that might be the most damning thing. Okay, he moved some numbers. Well, I wanted it 80 % for herd immunity and then 85%. But he had a heart problem that he knew was one of the side effects of the vaccine that he got and he kept that a secret during all of this. Like then you start going into like kind of directly evil stuff. If your primary responsibility is public health and you yourself have been wounded by this thing and go out of your way to create a coverup around it. Let's continue here with former FDA commissioner, Scott Gottlieb, again on CNBC.

52:07And Joe Kernan does a nice job here about Fauci's relationship with the media. And you can see Scott gets a bit uncomfortable. Did you figure out the obsession with mainstream media in defending him and, you know, Jake Tapper having, you know, multiple dinners and best friends. And what did that come from? And I know people around here that would call Tony Fauci a hero. Yeah, I can't dissect how people perceive it. I think different people had different emotions around it. The whole vaccine mask shut down, the whole liberal... It was a difficult time, Joe, as you know very well, and I think people were looking for a voice that they can cling to.

52:44Maybe they make their own voice. I am science. That's why people don't like me. I mean, that was, you're very guarded and nice. I was disappointed by the emails. I have to. Look, so Gottlieb is going out of the way not to condemn his friend or colleague too much because it probably would also in some sense condemn him at the same time. But you remember that line, when people go after the vaccine, they're not going after me. Or they're not going after me, they're going after the science. It's like, that is literally Palpatine. I am the Senate. We showed you already the videos of them endlessly glazing him.

53:20And then it's also that it was Fauci really that made this thing hyper-political. Because yes, it is true that Republican-leaning people tended, well, it's interesting, it's switched. Because if you remember when Trump was president, when COVID first came, there were all these people, all of the usual suspects saying, I'm not gonna do it, they've rushed it through, it's Operation Warp Speed, and I don't trust Trump and everything else. all the view ladies, everybody else. Then the second Biden became president and they wanted to mandate it with where you work and everything else. Then they were like, see, we've got to fire these people.

53:53So it all became hyper-political. But Fauci also was making it political himself. Watch him with Jake Tapper here. This is in 2020. Ideological rigidity, I think. There's no reason not to get vaccinated. Why are we having red states and places in the South that are very highly ideological in one way, not wanting to get vaccinations. Vaccinations have nothing to do with politics. It's a public health issue. But we've got to put all those things together, Jake. We can't just wish it happening. We've got to get the vaccine. It's got to be deployed. And we can't abandon fundamental public health measures.

54:37You can approach a degree of normality while still doing some fundamental public health things that synergize with the vaccine to get us back to normal. So not until the second or third quarter of 2021, though. Christmas is probably not going to be possible. Yeah. He really didn't know. He didn't know or he did know and he was lying. For him to say no reason not to get vaccinated, well, now it turns out that he had a cardinal infraction, which was one of the side effects. That's what Bobby just laid out right there. that might be a reason you don't wanna get vaccinated. Also, when he says it's not political, this is coming off of three years of you people screaming, my body, my choice.

55:21And then suddenly it was, oh, well, it's your body and it's not your choice because the government's gonna force you to be injected with this stuff. I am so glad I did not get that vaccine. And we got pretty damn close to doing it because of all sorts of pressures and not being allowed to go to restaurants and not being able to, I very famously could not walk into Fox affiliate in LA to debate Gloria Allred about vaccines. They wouldn't even let me in. So I had to go do it from home. And there was that moment, I don't know, two and a half years into the thing when everyone was like, is the world ever gonna get back to normal?

55:53Will any of us be able to do anything or anything else? And I remember one time we were at Gelson's, the grocery store in LA and we're walking in and I would always go in without my mask and I'd be yelled at at the door and then I'd put it on and then I'd take it down and I'd get yelled at again. And then somebody else would yell at me and occasionally someone would high five me, another sane person. But I remember we were buying eggs and David looked at me and he was like, you know, you don't have to come food shopping anymore. Meaning like he was sick of having us being yelled at and he was against the vaccine and everything else, but it's just not fun to be yelled at by a bunch of crazy people.

56:25That's what they did to all of us. Fortunately, that was, I think, basically the moment we decided to leave LA. But look at this, you know, so Tapper seems to be a little bit unsurprisingly condemned in a lot of this because he was so constantly going out of his way to defend Anthony Fauci. Look at this. This is from October 13th, 2020. Attacking the widely respected Dr. Tony Fauci while holding potential super spreader rallies throughout battleground states. Seems like a great way to win back those seniors and women voters concerned about how he's handled the pandemic. Jake, and of course he's talking about Trump holding rallies.

57:01Those Trump rallies were outdoors and people were still allowed to make decisions for themselves and you have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness in America. And we don't need to be guilted by a TV anchor who's friends with the guy that he's running cover for. Like it's just completely insane. Here's Trump on Fauci. He wrote, actually Tony's pitching arm is far more accurate than his prognostications. This is what he was retweeting. No problem, no masks. WHO no longer likes lockdowns, just came out against. Trump was right, we saved 2 million USA lives. But they just kept pushing nonsense on us.

57:44Do you remember this? At the height of BLM and lockdowns and racism and my body, my choice. Look at this headline from CNN. Over a thousand health professionals sign a letter saying, don't shut down protests over coronavirus concerns as an excuse. So there's a deadly virus that's gonna kill everybody but you remember this, but you gotta get out there for George Floyd and BLM and burn down Ventura Boulevard in LA in the name of social justice. And somehow that supersedes the COVID vaccine. Completely, completely insane. So how do we tie today's show together when talking about all these terrible people?

58:23Well, what we must continue to do to the best of our ability is never stop searching for truth. We have to keep exposing the liars, the frauds. You can do what I just tried to do here and give Fauci some benefit of the doubt or some of that stuff, but we need to give credit to the people who basically get things directionally right. And when you're someone who just keeps getting things wrong or you act completely differently privately than you do publicly, we need to push these people aside. Here's my buddy Adam Carolla with Nick Shirley talking about how, how, well, they're talking a bit about Fauci, and also the general search for truth these days.

59:04Are these guys ever going to have their day in court? Because I know for a lot of us, like, I would like to see Fauci have his day in court. Well, I would just say, like, the most important thing is to, like, go after the truth and, like, go, like, search for what's going on. And that means, like, you're searching for the truth inside your community. and then don't be afraid to see something, say something, post something. Because if you don't do something, the reason why I got so bad in Minnesota for so long is because nobody ever said anything. They were too scared to. It was right in front of their faces.

59:39The layering center was two blocks away from where the Minnesota Timberwolves play. And no one ever did anything about it. I started doing this stuff when I was 15 years old. I remember saving up just to buy the new iPhone so I could do it. Now the new iPhone is so good that it's outperforming all these other news channels with an iPhone and a fuzzy microphone. Like encourage other people to go out and do stuff. And it doesn't have to be that complex. Like the truth, it shouldn't be that complex. Like, is it true or not? So go out and do your best to help your community because somebody needs to do it.

1:00:13Isn't that right? And that's what the like the real bedrock of freedom is that you get some skin in the game. You fight for truth. Don't wait for the guys up there to hand you freedom or tell you something that is true. Like figure it out yourself. I also like, you know, I always say this thing about when people are telling the truth, it just flows easily. It's so reverse of like the tone and intonation and inflection that he speaks with, the ease versus the pre-packaged slimy fake smile of Mom Dami. We know what's going on here. And we just have to keep on that quest. we got two more live shows before I disappear people however I will do a post game show for you in 30 seconds rubenreport.locals.com thanks for watching we'll see you tomorrow

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Dave Rubin of "The Rubin Report" talks about a reporter angering Zohran Mamdani at his city-run grocery store press conference by calmly pointing out the financial reality of his plan; CNN's Harry Enten sharing new polling data that should scare the Democratic establishment about the upcoming midterm elections, as more Americans think the party has gotten too liberal; Adam Carolla loving how much Gavin Newsom is plummeting in the polls for the 2028 election; "The View's" Ana Navarro and Alyssa Farah Griffin surprising Sunny Hostin with their support for voter ID laws like the ones contained in the SAVE Act; Senate Majority Leader John Thune explaining to Fox News' Sean Hannity why using the talking filibuster to pass the SAVE Act is a more dangerous way to pass the bill than most Republicans realize; Squawk Box's Joe Kernen grilling Scott Gottlieb about the revelations from Rand Paul's release of Anthony Fauci's diaries during the COVID-19 pandemic that reveal him to be obsessed with the media attention and fame; and much more.

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