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21:01I think the best is to go with the competence argument, I think, because that's what he's doing. Two things. One, he's saying that Karen Bass, because I think he's running in a Democrat primary and there's a lot of people running against her, is incompetent, right? And she was in Ghana, right, at the inauguration of a new president when Pacific Palisades and part of Malibu were burning down. These are just facts. Newsom. And they had warned her. And they had warned her. And phone calls keep coming out. Like people taped calls and different things, text messages suggesting she was warned. She was downplaying.

21:36They couldn't get the water out of the fire hydrants. Like all that stuff that's been well documented. And I think the theme in that ad too is they're not like us, that they really don't get where real people live and how they live. It was my point earlier about Florida versus New York. And frankly, I think to bring it back to President Trump briefly, and then I'll get back to Steve Hilton, who I spent some time with in Pacific Palisades, because you mentioned Schwarzenegger and Reagan as governor, can a Republican win, is I think the president has to get back to the common sense agenda. I remember listening to the inaugural address just to go 30 ,000 feet for a second.

22:18And I'd been to a lot of his rallies in 2024 and earlier and never heard the phrase common sense agenda. But that like crystallized it in the inaugural. Like, yeah, these 80-20 issues, right? And now with the war and other things, he's kind of gotten away from it. I wonder in, you know, the closing months going into the midterms, if the Republican Party can get back to the common sense agenda and competence, like we can get these things done. I mean, they can't even protect you in Los Angeles from fires. They can't get the water out of the hydrants. The fire chief got fired because she was ridiculous.

22:55She was a DEI hire, right? There's a million examples of this. And so I was out in Pacific Palisades on a personal trip last July. It happened to be the six-month anniversary of the tragic fires. And I called Steve Hilton. He said, well, come on out on the trail. I'm doing a six-month thing. And do you know what Gavin Newsom said? And I hope people hold him on this one. He said, we're going to have a Marshall plan. That's his phrase, to deal with rebuilding. And how many homes have they rebuilt? I haven't checked, but recently, it was like one home, maybe two homes, right? And all of them are responsible.

23:27And they're all Democrats, just like Seattle and Washington state. All of these states are Democrat run, and they're not competent. And they take all your tax money, promise all these government insurance, and they're not even getting the water to you when there's a fire. They're not giving you the bait. Instead, they're spending money on leering centers. And I know I sound like I'm talking, but this is what's going on. They steal your tax money, keeps going up, billionaires' taxes that become middle-class income, and then they waste money, steal money, and the people in the middle get screwed.

23:58That's what happens. Spencer Pratt, he's living in a trailer. Well, you know, it's so interesting because on real time on Friday night, Bill, who, you know, He's still a Democrat despite all of this. He finally was like, guys, you're taking all of my money and it's getting worse. He finally made the connection between, oh, I keep giving them my money and things keep getting worse. So maybe that's a bellwether for something. I like your point, though, that the Republicans will have to, before the midterms, get back to just common sense stuff. That will work because we know the Democrats, all they have is fear.

24:32Here is Timu Obama. Because they are doing everything they can, it appears, to artificially give Donald Trump a Republican majority in the Congress and in the Senate, which, of course, he's at risk of losing because his presidency has been a disaster and the Republicans have been nothing but sycophants and rubber stamps for Donald Trump's extreme agenda. we're going to make sure that there's a free and fair election in November. And this voting rights decision by the Supreme Court has come late enough in the process that I agree entirely with Mark Elias that at the end of the day, at best, it may give the Republicans an additional seat or two in advance of November of 2026.

25:14And then we got to battle it out in connection with 2028. Josh, I'm going to have you put on your lawyer hat. Do you have an actual hat there? Do they give lawyers a hat? Let me grab it off the shelf. You probably have a MAGA hat there. Well, first off, he says, artificially give the Republicans a majority. It's the Democrats who in Virginia, although it's hung up by the courts right now, went from being the fairest state in the nation, a 51-49 state voting percentage, to 6-5 Democrat advantage. They then changed it to 10-1. So that seems a bit artificial. Again, it's hung up in the courts. But to the SCOTUS decision related to getting race out of the redistricting process as it pertains to Louisiana specifically.

25:58I don't know, getting race out of our system seems pretty good to me. I thought they don't like systemic racism.

26:05Josh Hammer:So the only surprising thing, Dave, about what the Supreme Court did when it came to the congressional maps this week is how long it took for a very common sense ruling like this to come down. So the Voting Rights Act famously passed 1965, one year after the Civil Rights Act as part of the great civil rights movement legislation. And it's been litigated in court numerous times. So actually, in 2013, there was a similar case called Shelby County out of Alabama involving the Section 5 coverage formula. This litigation involves a separate section, Section 2, which essentially says it's actually very convoluted, overly lawyered phrasing.

26:38Josh Hammer:Surprise, surprise. But the dumbed down, what it basically says, Section 2 of the statute, is that states and localities cannot abridge the right to vote on the basis of race. It's phrased in kind of a very vague kind of anodyne sounding way. Here's the catch. The catch is that for decades, for decades, politicians have interpreted that as essentially carte blanche is licensed to create what is commonly referred to as majority minority districts in certain states. So they essentially carve out these black majority districts in what are largely white conservative states, states oftentimes the South, Tennessee, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, etc etc etc and the problem is that when you interpret section two that way it runs blatantly afoul of the 14th amendment which the court just interpreted in the big affirmative action case the harvard litigation three years ago they just had a sweeping ruling that we finally said that when we say you can't just discriminate on the base of race that actually means you can't discriminate on the base of race so finally the court says here at the court this week that no you actually cannot intentionally draw your maps to take into account race.

27:49Josh Hammer:It is an utterly commonsensical ruling. All the usual suspects are freaking out about it. It's a brilliant ruling. It also is going to have some interesting further litigation repercussions because they could have just gotten rid of Section 2. That's actually what Clarence Thomas and Neil Gorsuch would have done. But the opinion leaves Section 2 in place, but says you can't do it this way. So it's a very, very enticing opportunity here for America First legal, a lot of these conservative legal outfits now to go on the offense and to basically start suing states like Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, if they don't take the prophylactic action of getting rid of these majority minority districts there.

28:23Josh Hammer:It's going to have big repercussions there. In net, though, Dave, if I can sum up there, Florida, obviously big action this week. Virginia hung up in the courts, as you said. It looks to me like on net, Republicans are probably going to come out ahead in this great mid-decade redistricting battle. And as you correctly alluded to, Democrats only have themselves to blame because you can And look at some of these iconic blue states, states like Illinois and Maryland, and just utterly cartoonishly gerrymandered districts. I mean, these things that are just like going like this and that and that. You can't believe them.

28:52Josh Hammer:It's unbelievable stuff. So they've been hoist on their own petard, and frankly, I think it's glorious. Excellent use of the lawyer hat. Ed, could you put on common sense hat and explain to me how what we've had actually made sense in these people's minds? I mean, partly what's going on here is that we checked the numbers on the show yesterday. 83 % of black Americans voted for Kamala Harris. So they've got a lock, and Trump has increased that both times, meaning the Republican chair. But they have such a crazy lock on the black vote that in essence they have no need to do anything for black people.

29:28So to separate race from all of this, I think actually will end up helping black people. I think you're right. And by the way, great use of the word prophylactic as well. Picked up on that. I think that Josh is really pouring it on now to make sure he's back on the show because he put on the thing. I'm trying it. I'm trying. He just ran with it. Common sense. I was listening closely to what he was saying because he broke it down really well about how ridiculous these districts have been set up. So common sense. I mean, I listened to Taimou Obama, as you said, Jeffries, who's ridiculous, you know, the cheap version of Obama.

30:01And all he kept saying was that this was an illegitimate ruling and the court's illegitimate. It's the Trump court, not the Roberts court. And I think about the basic hypocrisy of how every time the Supreme Court or a lower court takes down, strikes down some big Trump action, it's the greatest decision in the world, according to Hakeem Jeffries. And when President Trump says, this is nonsense, Bozberg, like the same guy who tears down everything I do with no real legal backing behind it, any middle of the road lawyer would say, this is a liberal ruling. This is ridiculous. It's not really following the law.

30:39It's political. Right. Trump rips it apart because he's a counterpuncher, as we know, and he goes on. And then what did Jeffries always say? There's no guardrails. Donald Trump's a dictator. He's a Nazi. all of these ridiculous things when he legitimately uses his First Amendment rights to say the court is illegitimate. Now, Jeffries says it's illegitimate. If you just play back what Josh just said, he broke it down in like two minutes how sound this ruling was by the U.S. Supreme Court. And it's bulletproof, really. So all they have is sticks and stones and it's illegitimate and they lost. And I think he's right.

31:16And by the way, they were accusing the Republicans are doing everything they're doing. You know, Clay Travis pointed out earlier in the week that Indiana, which is a red state, they could have done redistricting this entire time, and they've chosen not to because generally conservatives conserve things rather than break things. DeSantis operates a little bit differently, which is if you guys are going to mess around, we're going to mess around 10 times harder. Let me show you this. This is Alabama Representative Terry Sewell, a Democrat, and she would like to wipe out Republicans. What this decision says is that it values partisan politics over discrimination.

31:55It's really, really, really, I mean, it takes us back. And so to the extent that it's urging, it's inviting red states to totally take away all the Democratic seats and be totally red, it also encourages blue states to do exactly the same. So I can't speak for my chairwoman, but I take 52 seats from California. I sure will. And 17 seats from Illinois. Josh, grab that prophylactic again and help me here.

32:26My understanding is correctly, what she's saying basically is not looking at race is actually racism.

32:33Josh Hammer:Yeah, that's exactly what she's saying. And by the way, there are two other things to note. One is she's saying, oh, blue states, why don't you do the exact same thing? Newsflash, they literally are. So Massachusetts, for instance, does not have a single Republican member of Congress. They've essentially eliminated the Republican Party from the New England congressional delegation across the entirety of New England. So many blue states have actually been doing this for a very, very long time, and news as that may be, to Congresswoman Sewell. But the real reason that she is so upset is because she's about to lose her congressional seat.

33:03Josh Hammer:I mean, she is from one of these majority minority districts right there in the state of Alabama. So self-injurious is the only reason that she is kind of giving this death stare out there into the audience. And it's true that the court does essentially give its imprimatur of legitimacy to partisan redistricting here. Here's the thing, Dave. That's been happening for 200-plus years. Gerrymandering takes its name from Elbridge Gerry, who was a statesman, a congressman in the very early 19th century, just a couple of decades after the Constitution was ratified. This stuff goes back a very, very long time.

33:36Josh Hammer:And if you don't particularly like it, if you're not happy with how your state, whether it's a blue state or a red state, if you are a liberal in a red state or a conservative blue state and you're not happy with how your people are doing the maps there, you have multiple remedies. First and foremost, go to the ballot box, try to vote them out. Second, failing that, if all else fails, you can do what you did, Dave, and you can leave. That's the beauty of federalism. That's the beauty of our system of laboratories of democracy. But the notion that every single time that politicians do something that you don't like, it's unfair or it must be illegal.

34:08Josh Hammer:That's not actually how the Constitution works. In fact, Anthony Scalia, the great justice, if I'm paraphrasing here, he once said, it's a paraphrase, but he basically said this. He said that if you are of the opinion that everything that you like is constitutionally required and all that you hate is constitutionally forbidden, you're probably not reading the Constitution very well. And I think that's exactly what's happening here to the congresswoman from Alabama, who probably will be out of a seat rather soon. Wow. Josh really wants back on the show. Yeah. I mean, man, I've never seen anyone working this hard.

34:37Can I get in here? Well, let me let me throw in one number for you, because I think this is interesting and then take it away. In California right now, which is obviously a huge state, they have 52 representatives. Only seven are Republican. But if you think about how they vote, Cali, it's obviously it's a blue state. But about 40 something percent of the electorate does vote Republican. But it's broken down 52 to seven. So again, Virginia had what was the fairest situation. Right. And in California, on that point, if you look at the numbers, I believe Donald Trump got the most amount of votes of any state in the union from California.

35:12Because you think, oh, nobody voted for Trump in California. It's all Democrat. No, as you say, Orange County, all kinds of places. You get outside these LA, San Francisco, blue cities. There's a lot of Republicans, a lot of MAGA voters. So it should be a delegation of, you know, like 30, 24 or whatever the numbers might be. But instead, yeah, what is it? Seven Republicans. Ridiculous. That alone would probably, if that was done fairly, allow the Republicans to potentially keep power in the U.S. House, regardless of how much of the rest of the country goes. One other thing, and, you know, and Josh would have read the entire Supreme Court, you know, the briefs and the decision.

35:47But has anyone made the point as well that if – when you make these majority-minority districts, don't you dilute the power of, say, black voters or Hispanic voters if you concentrate? Like I just want to quickly make for people who maybe were being too South Florida-centric. But when I moved out of the New York, D.C. media bubble to South Florida and Newsmax has a big operation in Boca Raton in between Palm Beach and Miami, I grew up always knowing that there were a lot of Cuban-Americans who might be conservative, fled communism, all of that. And Miami was very Hispanic, right? You get around Florida, you see it's not just Miami, folks.

36:26It's all around. My newsroom is probably at least half Hispanic of my colleagues who are great men, women, worked at Miami TV stations, worked in the Tampa market, you name it. My point is, if you just concentrated all the Hispanic voters in Miami and said, we're just going to create one district, you'd have Carlos Gutierrez or someone and have one Hispanic Republican in the U.S. House from Florida. Instead, voters of this background, it's not just Cuban anymore, it's Venezuelan, all kinds, they have more power because it's more diffuse. They're in more districts. They're voting, not just in Miami, in Boca Raton, in Tampa.

37:09It's sort of basic common sense to me, right, that if you just put all of the black voters in one district, we're going to grab power. Actually, black voters might have more power if they were spread out around different states. Ed, are you telling me black people are individuals and they might think different things? They might make up their own mind, Dave. You have to look at this differently. Well, I'm shocked and appalled. Guys, let's go do one other thing before we wrap up this week. You know, it really is nuts how the news cycle moves because Donald Trump, they had the third assassination attempt on his life.

37:44Today's Friday. It happened on Saturday. And we, you know, after 24 hours, it basically disappears. And that's how normalized this stuff has become. But I want to talk, I'm always more interested in the narrative stuff and how the media deals with things usually than the incidents themselves. So a few days before the White House Correspondents Dinner, everyone's heard this already. But here is the joke that Jimmy Kimmel did. Again, I think it was two or three days before that has now caused the major kerfuffle post-assassination attempt. Our First Lady Melania is here. Look at Melania, so beautiful.

38:16Mrs. Trump, you have a glow like an expectant widow. Josh, Kimmel claims that, well, first off, hilarious. Ha, ha, ha. Do we have a laugh track? Okay, fine. Kimmel claims that it was an age joke that Trump is just older than her. Now, I don't care. I asked all my guys. We all watch it together. Nobody thought that. Nobody. Okay. It's fairly obvious what he was doing there. I actually don't think that him being fired would be the best outcome here. There's a million reasons ABC should have fired him over the years. The amount that he gets paid to do a terrible show and how partisan he's become.

38:52And he's like the reverse Johnny Carson and all of that. I don't think we get a huge win here if it appears that the administration put pressure on the FCC or something to go after ABC to then fire him. So I love your commentary on that. but also just the general state of how these things just keep happening. And, and, you know, it'll probably happen again in three weeks and we just keep going. Yeah.

39:14Josh Hammer:So first of all, I obviously share your team's assessment when it comes to the fact that no one buys this for a second. I mean, this is slightly more plausible than Jim Comey saying that he mysteriously just, Oh my God, saw 86, 47 magically in seashells there in North Carolina, outer banks beach. I mean, both neither of these passes the laugh test, obviously. So no one really believes Jimmy Kimmel. I guess I will say this to begin, which is I'm a little surprised that he was suspended after his post-Charlie Kirk assassination comments, which were bad. But frankly, I didn't think they were actually as bad as this.

39:45Josh Hammer:I think that this was actually considerably worse given actually all that is happening out there. So if you're going to suspend him for either, I'm a little surprised that it happened with the Charlie Kirk comments and not with these latest comments. On the latter point, look, Brendan Carr, the chairman of the FCC. I've known Brandon for a long time. He's a by the book guy. I think very, very highly of him. I think that this is part of a broader phenomenon that is happening in our culture right now. And I think it's easy, Dave, to kind of to kind of get bogged down in, oh, should the FCC try to go after ABC and Kimmel?

40:20Josh Hammer:Should we be indicting people like Jim Comey or Tish James or this new Anthony Fauci guy for not complying with FOIA and this and that there? But putting back on my lawyer hat, so to speak, there, I have long been of the opinion that in America's roiling cold civil war that the only way out is through. And what I mean by that is that – I'm sorry to just kind of put this bluntly, but we didn't start this. We genuinely, honest to God, did not start this. And sometimes, sometimes when you have a bully, it actually really is important from a basic game theory perspective to just punch the bully in the face.

40:56Josh Hammer:Obviously, not literally. Don't say hammers. Oh, here we go. Oh, here we go. Oh, my God. Yeah. But I mean, think about it. If the other side, if the other side is coming at you, you have to punch back at some point. Again, it's just basic game theory. And that plays out a little more directly in the lawfare context for sure. But I would just kind of ask whether or not it comes from the media ginning up of this assassination porn. And that's basically what MS now is. That's basically what CNN is. It's assassination porn. Blue Sky is just pure, pure assassination porn. So at some point there, you do have to kind of punch back a little bit.

41:32Josh Hammer:Is this the best way to do it? I think your mileage may vary, to be honest with you. But on those grounds, I think it's probably defensible. I also think to the backdrop of what was really the biggest media story for a couple of days, which was that insane interview that Hassan Piker, who's a huge lefty influencer, had with The New York Times, where he basically was excusing violence against your political opponents. And in this case, he was talking about Brian Thompson, the healthcare CEO, who got assassinated. It's like these things are somewhat connected. Ed, let me have you comment on this.

41:59My good friend, Sage Steele, who formerly worked for Disney at ESPN, here she is commenting on a bit of the hypocrisy around the Kimmel joke.

42:08Dave Rubin:We used to work for ABC, Disney. Do you think they're going to do anything?

42:17I would say it would shock me if they did based on history. I will say this. Yes, almost 17 years, Jesse, working for the Walt Disney Company at ESPN. They have a history of punishing free speech, but it depends on what the narrative is. For me, it was as simple as saying that I'm against the company mandating you to take a vaccine in order to keep your job while complying. Pulled me off the air, suspended me, took assignments, punishing me for just saying that while complying. Then you have Jimmy Kimmel, who not only mocks the death of Charlie Kirk, but continuously with the hateful rhetoric and now crossing the line, I believe, with what he said about Melania and Donald Trump the other day.

42:56If you're Josh tomorrow, this is your chance, not just to send a message to Jimmy Kimmel, but to all the other talent, to the executives and most importantly, to the American people to say we are better than this. And let me show you two headlines here, because Sage makes an interesting point. She complied. She complied. She just talked about it and got fired. But look at this from Variety in 2018. Roseanne gets canceled after Star's racist tweets. She had one tweet about Valerie Jarrett that they said was racist. She, at the time, had the number one comedy show in America. She got fired. Same company.

43:31And this 2021 BBC, everyone remembers this, Gina Carano dropped from Mandalorian after abhorrent posts.

43:42This is not a two-way street. Are you saying Democrats are hypocritical? Is that what you want to suggest? I think you're right. And I think, Sage Stale, I mean, what happens to the screaming about Donald Trump shutting down the First Amendment when obviously the social media companies didn't care about the First Amendment rights of Donald Trump or his campaign and took him off all these platforms and all the rest of it, especially after, you know, beyond the campaign and covering up the Hunter laptop, then deplatforming him and so many others after January 6th. We could go on. So she complies with the ridiculous vaccine policy, but just exercises her First Amendment right.

44:18And she's shoved aside. Let me put on my reporter's hat for a moment because I want to try to make sure I get that second invite. I wish I had a host hat. Maybe I'd be doing better at this. So Brendan Carr, a little bit of insight. When the Charlie Kirk thing happened, Kimmel was on the ropes because he was already ratings challenged. They really couldn't defend it at ABC. They pulled him off for a while, right? Stations were abandoning him and ABC. And what did Brendan Carr do? He stepped in it. he decided to do an interview or something with Benny Johnson, maybe, and say, we can do this the easy way or the hard way.

44:59And then it became, he's a mob boss. He's overdoing this. Look at the, you know, the craziness inside the administration that created sympathy and a rallying cry for Kimmel. So why I bring it up now is I think Brendan Carr, having spoken to him and others in that orbit in recent months learn from that, that you stick to the facts. You don't pour gasoline on the fire. Like Kimmel's going to self-immolate, right? And so what did Carr do this week? He just said, we're doing a review of some broadcast licenses. And people screamed and yelled or whatever, but related to ABC. And I think he's going to do, he's a lawyer by training as well.

45:37And I think Brendan Carr is going to do a by-the-book look at these licenses. Are they complying, rather than, you know, more rhetoric that makes Kimmel look sympathetic, which is hard to do, obviously, because he's not a very sympathetic figure. To me, at this point, especially because we don't want it thrown in our face that we're now screaming about someone being fired, right? Whether it's just or not. To me, if ABC wants to give that guy, I think it's 20 mil a year to do that show and have it insult half the country, we've already been through it for 20 years. So if he wants it for another year or two while everyone gets their, you know, videos and comedy and everything else elsewhere, to me, it's like, let's just keep mocking the guy.

46:19I don't know that him being fired is the right thing, but ABC should make that decision. I want to do one other thing because you both mentioned Brendan Carr, who is the FCC chairman. Ironically, and this kind of ties everything we've talked about on the show together, Disney, which that little blue blip that you saw on the Florida map we showed before, it's right outside Orlando because that's where I think all the furries who work there live. They are in some trouble with the FCC because it appears they had been hiring people based on skin color for many years. Surprise, surprise. The FCC has been investigating Disney's ABC stations for possible violations of the Communications Act of 1934 and the FCC's rules, including the agency's prohibition on unlawful discrimination.

47:00The FCC determines that calling in Disney's ABC licenses for early renewal at this time under the Communication Act's public interest standard is essential within the meaning of agency regulations. FCC Chairman Brendan Carr discussed it on a podcast with Katie Miller, who is married to White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller. There's evidence suggesting that Disney literally was dividing and categorizing employees based on race and gender, and potentially, we'll see what the evidence establishes, ultimately, giving different opportunities to people based on their race or gender or other protected class, and we're going to get some more discovery from Disney on that, but that could raise character questions about the company long-term.

47:41Josh, it's interesting because I just said that, you know, ABC should be left to their own devices, whether they want to fire Kim or not. In this case, it's fairly obvious that they violated federal, you know, federal rules and probably several laws as it comes to anti-discrimination, because everyone knows it was the height of DEI. And it's not just Disney that did this, but they were obviously hiring people based on skin color and gender and sexuality and all the rest of it.

48:04Josh Hammer:Well, that's also exactly among the reasons why our governor, all of our Ron Sanders, got into this extended years-long fight with the Walt Disney Company, which is one of, if not the single largest employer here in this line. It's not a fight that a governor picks haphazardly, but he did so because they were peddling woke filth, and apparently they were employing woke practices inside the company itself. But this broader notion of Brendan Carr looking at this simultaneously with the backdrop of his back and forth with Kimmel kind of takes me back to my earlier point, which is I'm obviously not calling, God forbid, for the infamous kind of Stalin-esque notion of show me the man and I will find you the crime.

48:40Josh Hammer:Rather, what I'm saying is that for decades now, when it comes to lawfare of the left prosecuting Trump and this and that, the grannies outside the pro-life abortion clinics, et cetera, et cetera, at some point sometimes you do use prosecutorial discretion and you operate in good faith to find a law that you think that someone has actually violated. And in this case, it seems like ABC actually has violated the law. Now, some people can connect that in their mind or they cannot connect that in their mind there. But at some point, I think they will get the message. You know, Dave, I think a lot about this Substack post that our mutual friend Abigail Schreier wrote a few years ago on this very topic where she famously said that short-term escalation is probably necessary in the interest of a mid - to long-term stasis of some sort of stabilization or equilibrium.

49:28Josh Hammer:and, you know, putting on my lawyer hat again for the third time on the show. That's not my preferred way of doing this, by the way. I prefer that like equal protection is like actually a thing and that we're all free and fair. And but the point is, it's so warped and it's so distorted at this point there that some sort of short term escalation, again, operating in good faith, assuming that they've actually violated this law there. I think that actually is the path forward for now. Yeah. And I mean, it seems to me it's pretty obvious they did this. If you may remember at the height of COVID and all that, all the Zoom meetings that got leaked from the Disney people, I think Chris Rufo leaked them where they were talking about hiring, you know, black and trans writers.

50:02And, you know, there were then employees who were saying, I'm white and I was told I'm not going to get a job. So it's obvious it was happening there. It seems to me, however, if they go for Disney on this, you're going to have to go for basically, you're going to have to go for everybody. I was, I just mentioned on the show yesterday, I was on a Delta flight yesterday and they still have their 2024 DEI award on the plane, on the plane when you get on. Yeah. So you'd have to go for absolutely everybody. Did the pilot get a DEI award or was it a stewardess? I was like, whoa, I got a white pilot.

50:31This is going to go well. Oh, boy. You're going to get in trouble. I'm sorry. I was just looking up the word stasis because I just want to make sure I can keep up. He's using all his fancy words today. Yeah, he's just stopping all these big words. Doesn't this bring it back to the conversation where we started, right, with Voting Rights Act, which is about race has to be injected and now you're bringing us to DEI? And whether it's a pilot, whether it's somebody writing a comedy show or something at Disney, it's like I grew up Long Island, right? Very, you know, mixed group of people, you know, Irish, Italians, Catholic, Jewish, white, black.

51:09And it was a melting pot, literally. And my parents just brought us up as like, you know, you're supposed to like everyone, get along. But it's like battle of the fittest. Like, you've got to work hard. You've got to make your own way. That's the way it is in New York, writ large, pre-Mumdani or whatever. But my point is, I don't care about the pilot's race or whatever. I want the best pilot, right? White, black, male, female. If somebody's writing jokes or whatever, why does it have to be a black trans writer because they are checking boxes? If that's the best writer, the person is hysterical, awesome.

51:42You know, just do that. And it's like, you know, we're going to pick a congressperson based on, you know, majority, minority race, or we're going to pick it based on this is a good, decent person who's got America's interests at heart. How about that? Well, I'm sorry. I have to fire you, Shaniqua, my black trans writer. It's been fun. Thank you for your time here. Gentlemen, Henry, you're coming back for sure. You know what? Hammer, hammer. As I always tell you, you were hanging on by a thread, but you used so many words, big words, the prophylactic. You're back. You can come back. In one answer, he went from prophylactic to porn.

52:23He kept using porn, I noticed as well. He's got a diverse vocabulary. What hat was that, Josh?

52:28Josh Hammer:I'm trying to keep you on your toes, Henry. That's what I'm trying to do.

52:44Thank you.