Align With Your PURPOSE + Manifest EFFORTLESSLY w/ Human Design (You are UNIQUE!) | Jenna Zoe

26:17But if you can think about those random little things that you maybe think are uncool, or that might not lead you to anything, and you can back those things, I think you can just do that and not know anything about your design. And just take a bet on those like, unusual little pockets that aren't everywhere. Yeah, these are the underappreciated gifts that a lot of people have. You know, when I started this show, I remember thinking to myself, I have no idea how to like run a podcast or do the, you know, to do this thing. It's not what I was skilled to do, but I've always been fascinated by people and just curious and always ask these weird, random questions.

26:57And I was like, well, maybe there's something from this. So I just tapped into asking weird, random questions and people seem to like it. But I was listening to that thing within me. Okay. Here's like a hidden gift that I don't think is valuable, but let's see where it goes. By going into that, it worked out for me. So what I'm hearing you say is like, try to find the hidden gifts within you that maybe don't seem celebrated by others all the time. And it's risky. I say that lightly, but it's a huge risk because your mind again is going to say, no, but how are you ever going to support yourself on that?

27:33How are you ever going to make money? No one's going to think you're cool. Like, what are you doing? And to be honest with you, the fact that we even think there are certain guarantees is an illusion anyway to life right so really this is actually working with reality that everything is an unknown right but it's really hard and it's the daily practice of human design is like again like i said your your design doesn't change but every single day to listen to your gut on every single thing it's hard and you have to do it in new pockets of your life right and you have to relearn it and relearn it and get to another level with it and then refine so this mind thing of like are you sure are you're not crazy like when I first sat my parents down and told them I was closing my food business to read human design I mean I literally thought my highest aspiration would be like they wheel me out on the lottery with a wig and I read the lucky numbers it wasn't cool it wasn't a thing it was this is eight nine years ago now right so I took a chance on that random thing that I didn't know where it was going to lead me.

28:33Right. And it's not the, the career choice that is going to take us far. It's how much we show up and be our most kind of actualized, present, powerful, capable, liking who we are along the way. Like that's the thing that's the magic in people, right? It doesn't actually matter what you're doing. You can make a fortune out of gardening if you do it the right way, if you get a zing with it, you know? Absolutely. Yeah. I think I saw one of your videos on Instagram, you talking about like really leaning into your passion in terms of like being passionate about what you're doing and being excited about it because that unlocks new pathways, new doors for you when you're living into that.

29:10When we're doing something that I feel like we're skilled at, but we don't fully fall in love with, we're kind of in resistance still. Like, okay, yes, I have this talent over here, but my intuition is not telling me that it's what I want to do with my time, you know, or maybe like I used to be really good at baseball for a long time. But then when I turned 17, I just didn't have the, the energy for it anymore. I just didn't care enough about it to keep pursuing it. And I started to pursue track and field and great things came out of that decision to leave something I had talent in to pursue something that I was more excited about.

29:46And I think it's learning how to trust like the timing of this as well, when to do this. What about in relationships? You know, how have you learned about what is a good relationship, whether it be in business partnerships or career or an intimacy based on human design? OK, so people always ask about like our generators compatible with this or that or whatever. Now, from a human design perspective, if you have chemistry with somebody, you're compatible. you just need to learn the other person so that there is no me trying to change you or us trying to be on the same page or me misunderstanding the very innocent reasons why you do something that i'm thinking you're sitting down on that chair for a different motivation than you would be sitting down on that chair right so anybody's compatible with anybody if you're drawn to that person for the time for the exact amount of time you still are drawn to that person right um but if you can learn someone else's manual, for example, manifesting generators are very fast people, right?

30:46And so if you're with, if you're a projector who's with a manifesting generator to honor each other's different speeds, that already gets rid of so much friction, right? Or if you understand that somebody, for example, my mom, when I did a reading for my mom for the first time, and I saw her main gift, everybody has one gift in their life that's their main thing they came here to do. When I saw her main gift was about kind of almost being a little bit abrasive and abrupt in order to shake people out of things. So my mom would be the person who like, she'll see someone wheeling a baby down the street and she's like, put a hat on that baby, you know?

31:18And I always used to think that was like rude and inappropriate, but in a way, if you're doing it with the right consciousness, that's obviously another thing, like the way that you animate it. There's a purpose for every single role that people play in society, right? And so when you know the reason why someone is the way they are, you're not judging them anymore. You're not thinking that they're wrong. You're not trying to fit them in to be more like you. And what happens with our differences, if we know them, then I can actually vicariously enjoy yours through you when I'm not threatened by them.

31:47When I don't think that I have to be more like you or you have to be more like me. And I'm trying to think who's better or worse. So I'm like, isn't that so beautiful that your main gift is, you know, whatever it is. Well, I know what yours are. What is my main gift? So your main gift is number 36 and that's turning darkness into light. Okay. So a lot of the stuff that you're here to do is to pull out from the places that people don't necessarily look at or talk about and to bring them into awareness to um alchemize things that are maybe more negative into more positive things and then your secondary one and they play nicely together is really about bonding with people and breaking through barriers which i mean you clearly do i've known you for an hour you're very good at it right so those two things i know that i don't have to be them because you're really good at them and i'm good at other things right and then you actually just like literally you survive off seeing other people in their guests It's like so much fun, you know?

32:40So in relationships and in business partnerships, you can do the same thing. We were like, it's so cool how you do that. And yet there's no part of me that thinks I have to be the same way. Yeah. So the harmony in that is like life changing. I mean, you were essentially learning and studying human design for the last, what, eight or nine years, right? You're also in a relationship during that time at some point. So how did you, I think you were in a relationship for four years, you said. So how did you know when you're in the relationship when there was alignment with the relationship versus, all right, there's not alignment?

33:14Or did you miss something in the relationship that you weren't following your own kind of wisdom, your own intuition? Okay, so my intuition is emotional, which means that we have to make decisions based on how things make us feel, like happy or sad. Literally that black and white, right? So either we're up here or we're down here. and 50 % of the population is emotional, which is crazy. So what's your energy type? I'm a projector. Projector. Yeah. Okay. But my emotional intuition, what it says is, again, you don't need to understand with your mind why your intuition is telling you what it's telling you.

33:51That's where we trip up. Intuition, you just have to listen to it. Just trust it. Just trust it. Don't try to understand it. Don't try to understand it. So what our mind does, it comes in secondary and goes, these are the reasons why, and this is the logic, and this was this, and this is that, and it wasn't aligned and he was this and that, that's all noise. That's why you hear a lot of women that say, he looked great on paper. Yeah. He had all the things that, and my parents thought this was awesome, the school he went to, where he worked, like everything seemed to line up, but I just didn't have something inside of me that wanted to come in, right?

34:24Yeah. That's what a lot of women say, right? Yeah, it's making decisions with the mind rather than with the body. Why do so many people make the decisions with the mind rather than the body? Well, to get a little bit historical on you, if you think about where humanity has been for the last couple hundred years, right, it has been a lot of top down sort of control. And a population is easier to convince you all to go to war and to, you know, do certain things. If this is the logic, we all have to agree on the logic. There's one objective reality. Let's all get on the same page rather than there is no objective reality.

35:01we're all just here bumping up against each other doing our random things that's a nightmare right for a society some order and some organization somewhere right yeah but when you think about it then the people who are in government are supposed to be the people who are very good at coming up with common laws they're very good people who are being balanced who are being fair who come up with how people interact and come together but giving people their freedom so when you're trying to suppress a culture with a religious homogenized belief, then there is this thing that we all, that is logic that gets handed down to us, that you have to do what makes sense to other people.

35:38And that's how you get your love and belonging from the tribe is by justifying that what you're doing is for the same reasons that everyone else would want to do the same things. So how can women specifically make better decisions in choosing the right male partner for them if they want to choose a male partner. How can women choose better in relationships? This is going to sound a little crazy, but one of the other big conditionings that we have is that we have to make the right decision that we ensure is going to make our relationship last forever. And that's a good relationship. What you actually want from that is to feel the most amount of love, right?

36:17You want to be in love and in the energy of love every single day of your life. So from that perspective, whether that changes 20 times or once doesn't really matter. So for me, that relationship was correct for as long as it lasted because it grew the amount of love I had in my life until my emotions started telling me otherwise. And am I better off because of that relationship? Am I more open-hearted because of that relationship? Am I more happy with who I am? Yes. Right. So that was not a terrible relationship. That was life showing me that was a perfect amount for it to last. Oh, OK. So a big thing to get rid of is I have to know how my future is going to look in order for me to be happy.

37:04I actually just need to be happy today and then your tomorrow will start off better and that will compound. And then it doesn't matter about the form that it takes because the inside is going to be more actualized, more evolved, more in love, more open hearted, more all the things that we actually want. Yeah, absolutely. So it comes from kind of letting go of this guarantee to micromanage how the life is going to unfold for you to think of how it needs to look for you to be happy and to do the happiness today and then to trust that that's what activates the rest of the work. The 90 % of the unseen forces kind of coming together to make things happen the way that we can't engineer like opportunities, synchronicities, meeting people out of nowhere.

37:44Stuff that we couldn't even do if we were the best minds in the planet. Right. You know, there's something to choosing to being positive and happy and grateful for certain elements of your life and trying to maximize that. Because when we maximize that energy, synchronicities unfold, right? These unseen forces for good show up in our life. Or they block us from something bad essentially happening, right? Or they move us in a different direction. But why do you think there are certain people who seem to have it all but are still choosing to be unhappy and not choosing to be grateful for what they have?

38:27They're complaining or feeling entitled for what they don't have. Why do you think that happens? I think that's one of those things where there's many different causes for one symptom. Right. So on the outside, this person you're saying is ungrateful or unhappy. um the number one reason i would say is that if you haven't liked who you've become along the way of getting to what you want then that's never going to be a happy result right you can't get to joy if you don't pave it along the way with feeling like you love being who you are and i you've probably been in situations like this in your life before where maybe things are hitting the fan but you still love the fact that you have your own back through it and there's this incredible piece of like okay well we're on this adventure of life the soul wants to experience everything let's lean into this knowing that i think i'm gonna make sure that i'm okay right and that weirdly transforms even the most negative experiences into these like fascinations and i think if you don't know how to do that then that's already a big um that really takes away from your happiness the second thing is also that again the brain is is addicted to finding something to focus on, right?

39:42And it could be being focused on creativity, but when it's turned inwards, it's going to look for problems. It's going to look for unhappiness. That's what's going to happen when you let it run amok in an area that it's not supposed to run amok in. And the third one is, I think, is an addiction that we're being programmed with from the outside conditioning of, you know, you should find reasons to be unhappy, or you grew up around people who were that way, and you need to decondition from that automatic pattern that, again, like you were saying in the beginning with your parents that condition you, even if they weren't doing it on purpose, it's passed down until you have to be the one that says, you know what, let me not just decide to be rid of it, but let me practice being rid of it today.

40:20How would I move through my day when I catch this thing come in and I go, uh-uh, uh-uh, what else would I do instead? And you might feel like an imposter the first time you do it because it's not going to feel natural. But even if you can just flex it slightly, the universe goes, oh, look who's trying to be more than selves. Let me go help this person out. What was the thing you had to decondition over the last 10 years that was running your life the most? I think the emotional piece is a really big piece. And this is, like I said to you, 50 % of the population are what's called emotional beings.

40:54So you're what's called non-emotional, meaning when you're by yourself, you're cool, calm, and collected. It's only when the world comes to you or when people come to you or a situation comes to you, you feel a certain way. When you're emotional, you can wake up and be happy and feel on top of the world. Same exact situation the next day and you feel totally different. And for me, I was really brought up when I was in a low mood. What's wrong with you? Why are you upset? Smile. Don't be a sport brat. You know, I'm English, right? So don't be a sport brat. And for me, it was a real judgment about having negative emotions.

41:31And I still struggle with it today. I'm not rid of it by any stretch of the imagination. I just am more aware of it. So I have levity around when I'm doing it to myself. Gotcha. So you're emotional. I'm non-emotional. You're non-emotional. So explain that again, someone who's emotional versus non-emotional. Yeah. So you don't generate your own emotions. You are like a mirror and a sponge to the world around you. So this actually, when we talk about people who are empaths, we really are talking about in a strict version, we're talking about non-emotionals because you're able to feel what I'm feeling.

42:02Because I have my own emotional rollercoaster going on, I'm actually not able to viscerally tap into your emotions. As an emotional person. As an emotional person. Non-emotional person. I can understand your emotions. You can feel my emotions. That resonates. I feel like I can feel everyone's energy. Yes. And something that I saw on your Instagram when you were talking about empaths, you said we shouldn't be absorbing, we should be observing. Yes. That's something you said recently. Don't absorb others' emotions, observe. Observe, yes. And I think that's interesting because empaths take on the weight of anyone around them.

42:36Yeah. And they feel it and they feel emotionally drained where they have no energy if they absorb it. Yeah. So it's learning to notice someone's energy and still be empathetic, but don't absorb it, right? Observe. Yes. Connect. don't let it penetrate your your energy center don't let it penetrate your soul to where you're now in that state of being as well yeah that's a hard thing for a lot of people who are in that non-emotional empath state of being yeah it is and it's it's an interesting one to understand that you know when you're not absorbing my stuff you would be able to show me what i'm feeling because I'm so might in it, I have no idea what's going on some of the time.

43:18So you would magnify and be able to show me what's going on with me if you're not then taking it on. So let's say, for example, I'm an emotional. I wake up and let's say I'm happy today. I'm two out of 10 happy, okay? 10 out of 10 happy, you said? Let's say, for example, I'm two out of 10. Oh, two out of 10, you're not happy. Because it goes on a scale, right? So let's say one day I'm on a two out of 10. I walk in the room and I see you six out of 10 happy. I'm like, you look happy today and you've become happy because you felt what I've done and you've magnified it right and that's beautiful but I can see it more clearly through you than I can through me got it but that also works on the other side too where a lot of non-emotionals get called the most emotional people because if I walk in the room two out of ten sad two is a one is the hot sad one is less like let's say two out of ten so let's say I'm two out of ten sad that day okay I walk in the room you all of a sudden get in a bad mood and i'm like what's wrong with you why are you in a bad mood and you don't know because you it wasn't there before i walked in right you're just able to reflect to me what i'm not even aware of interesting if we have that languaging that i can be like thank you so much for showing me what was going on with me today and instead of going what's wrong with you right because you guys are the are the open right you're the open emotional and so you feel whatever else is going on in the world.

44:35Interesting. And we're just like playing our own songs completely unaware. I wonder what my fiance is. She's, I can't remember if she's a manifester. I think she's a non-specific manifester. I don't know if that's a thing, but maybe it's manifester generator. Yeah. But I don't know. But she's positive 90 % of the time. Like she is in a positive, joyful, grateful state consistently. It's very rare for her to be low, low energy. Yeah. which really is nice for me because I think I've always in the past been in relationships where I didn't know what I was going to get and it was harder for me because I would absorb energy and I would shield it and I would allow it to drain me now I've learned how to observe differently and just accept people for where they're at and be there for them in a different way as opposed to taking on their pain and sorrow and trying to like fix it That was a wound that I had to learn how to heal.

45:31But being in a relationship with someone who is truly grateful for life, that truly loves her life, is a joy. It is like a gift that I hope everyone can experience at some point because it's challenging to be with someone that isn't a happy person consistently. It just is. And it's hard to be with someone for years who you don't know how to help them become happier. And that's something that I experienced because I chose based on a wound and nothing wrong with them, but just felt like it was always harder because they weren't happy. And so I hope everyone can get to that state. You just unlock more when you are a generally happier person.

46:18But I feel like a lot of people struggle with happiness. A lot of people suffer and struggle with feeling worthy of happiness, of learning how to believe they're a good person, of believing they're enough. Why do you think we struggle so much with being happy and how can we learn to love ourselves deeper so that we are happier? I love that question. So I think there's two different kinds of levels of happiness. So for example, I could be in a low mood today, but still be so fulfilled and almost loving watching that process of waking up just being more like meh today. But that meh state can mean like still fine.

47:00You know what I mean? So there's two. There's almost like one that's like the bottom of the ocean. That's like your core fulfillment, joy to be alive, like grateful. Like, oh, my God, this is like this is an adventure. You know what I mean? Like, let me just observe what's going on today. It's all interesting and all beautiful and so amazing, right? That level of happiness, I think, really comes from being who you're supposed to be, you know, and being happy with who you are and almost feeling like you're doing what brings you the self-esteem, the fulfillment, the giving and receiving in the way that you're supposed to, right?

47:32I think when you give to the world in a way that you feel like there is an abundance more coming from it, it changes your whole worldview because you're like, there's so much more where that came from. I'm so happy to serve. I love giving to people. I love seeing how I get received when I give to people. It kind of is like the genie wishing for one wish and then you get tons more back, right? When you're tapped into like, this is I'm in my magic. So then I don't just know that I'm special from here, but I feel that I'm special every single day because I know that I have something I've cultivated and given energy to that I really feel like is me.

48:03It's like my home frequency. I could come back to my base of what my value add is in this world, right? So I think that's number one is like there's so much deeper levels of happiness that are available to you if you can break away from constantly telling yourself you have to be like everybody else constantly trying to get the love and belonging the kind of short-term cookies you can kind of forego them and put the put the sort of time in to take the risk to get it from the sort of longer term value giving people value rather than what can i get out of life so quickly those cookies are so good cookies are so good in a moment just oh man i love those cookies but there's so much there's so much greater benefit when you can delay or at least not every day have to go for the cookies i'm not saying never enjoy it but um you know as a metaphor just not going for the pleasure every single day yeah really going for a state of long-term happiness and fulfillment yeah um comes down to making yourself proud of who you are absolutely yeah and that feeling is not replaceable by any other thing.

49:04I don't think. That's true. I think when you're like, I really, I'm happy, almost like you're in a parent being like, you know what? That was a hard decision, but really I'm impressed with you. I think that is the ultimate. If you want to be happy, you make yourself proud of you. 100%. When was the time in the last decade, you were the least proud of you and at your lowest energy state? I think the ending of that relationship was very difficult for me because another thing that I was really conditioned with my mom is indian and my parents have been married forever and one of the things i really was conditioned with is that it's if a relationship goes well you've done well like it's your job as a woman to make a good relationship and so you fail you're the failure if you don't make it work wow that was a big one for me so that was a really really hard time of being like, am I defected as a woman?

50:01Am I not desirable enough? Did I not do enough? Was I not more malleable? Should I have, you know, been more flexible or rolled down more? You know, whatever, all those different stories that you can create. I think that was a really big one for me. But I don't think I would have undone that conditioning if I hadn't gone through that experience. Wow. So you felt like you were a failure with the relationship ending? Yeah. I felt like it was on me I think a lot of women Go through that too Really? I think they feel responsible For making A relationship go well Where do you I mean there's something To be said for You know People who are in relationships Relationships for decades That are like Listen We had some hard seasons Some hard years And we could have easily Just said You know what This isn't working Or some bad stuff happened And we should have left But we decided To stay together And we're so grateful fall 10, 20, 30 years later that we did because every relationship has some seasons.

50:59Yeah. But then there's also like, I see that point of view, but then I'm also like, okay, if your body is rejecting something and it's telling you this is not working and I'm giving it my all and I'm trying and we're going to therapy and you're really trying to commit to make it work, but it's, you're rejecting it and it's just a disconnect. I also see the benefit and the value and cautiously uncoupling and saying, listen, we got to go this isn't working. Let's take some time and maybe we come back together in the future. And I don't think there's a right or wrong either way. I don't think it's like you're a failure if you didn't go through all the hard times and go for 30, 40 years and make it out beautiful, holding hands as like 90 year olds on the other side.

51:40Because you can also be together for a long time and be miserable. And there's a lot of probably Indian families that just stay together, even though they don't fully love and have a fullness of life. Yes. Right? I'm sure you see both. Completely. And that's the thing, and I love that you've touched on this because that's the thing about human design is that we're always trying to look for, always tough it out or leave the second you're ready, but actually everyone's on a different path. So that advice isn't going to work for everybody. And you're kind of, I guess, well predisposed to seeing this because you're very open in your chart I had to look at.

52:15You're very open in your mind. so it is always about kind of not having your fixed opinions on things it's always about saying yeah i could see that maybe sure i don't know could be wrong could be right let's see right and that's one of your gifts and i think that's one of the things is that we're always trying to find the right way to do life and then wronging everybody else who's not fitting into that directive and say instead of saying we are all on radically different journeys journeys no one else can even ever even come close to understanding so us using our again using our mental energy on trying to find some kind of system that makes us all be on the same thing or same level of understanding or same goal.

52:54It's just a moot exercise. And I think that the challenge or the opportunity we all get to face is, are we going to live our life trying to please everyone else based on our decisions or lack of decisions or feeling guilty and bad and wrong for decisions we make that others don't approve of. Yeah. Because it's really hard to make decisions if we're thinking, why do I want people to be upset at me? Yeah. And I did that for a long time. I stayed in relationships too long that I shouldn't have. I got out of stuff that I probably shouldn't have because I was worried about the opinions of others. Yeah.

53:29So you felt like you were in a low part at the end of that relationship because you felt like a failure. I felt like I wasn't being my best self. Really? Yeah. I felt like it wasn't bringing out the best in me and therefore I shamed myself for that because it's not good to feel like you're not happy with how you're being right and um and also yeah i really had to contend with like if i end this then am i stupid am i making a really bad decision because again like you were saying he's great on paper we're good enough together my whole family loves him he's successful he's this he's nice to me he's yeah all that stuff you know um what what was in telling you like this isn't in alignment or this isn't the right thing for me right now what was telling you was it your intuition was it your gut was it just like you didn't feel like you're in your purpose or your joy how were you able to know that okay i'd given this enough time and the season is ready to move on to the next thing yeah i think i can come up with a lot of logical reasons for you but i think i think ultimately if i watch myself and net net my emotional state was more negative than positive in the relationship towards the end so then that kind of tells you again it's like the body knows right like it just it's so tangible we just need to watch ourselves as if from above and say does this person look like a thriving does it look like it's suiting you or not and you don't need to be able to explain it away um on a more i guess on a more logical level um i went in with certain roles that i played that were again if we're always trying to be who we came here to be they weren't ultimately part of who i was right serving you yes or your future you your highest you yes so you went in playing certain roles in relationship and then you realize this isn't sustainable this isn't me so it was kind of like your responsibility yeah for being those roles because you were almost completely inauthentic in a sense right and those are my cookies look how good of a girlfriend i am look how supportive i Look, you know what I mean?

55:30The cookies are sometimes a little hidden like that, right? It's like, look how much I'm helping this person be successful. That's so much more easier than trying to be successful on my own, right? So from, I mean, I don't know anything about the relationship, but if I was in that, I'd be like, wow, okay, this person, this is who this person is. They're showing up in this way, and now they're trying to be something different. It might be confusing for the guy. Oh, no, very. Beyond. Right. He's probably like, wait a minute, you were super supportive and now something is shifting and now you're trying to be this other thing.

56:00That's not, you know, who are you? Oh, I played such a good trophy wife and I was good at it. Like you said, like with the previous sport, like I was good at it. Right. So you can't blame you have to. I think ultimate self-responsibility gives you ultimate power over your own life. You absolutely everything is for your own movie. So it's always I, I, I, I, I played the good role. I played the thing and therefore I got out of it what I put in. It doesn't matter about who the character is that I was playing with. I would have played that character on whoever it was. For anyone, until you learned the lesson.

56:31Exactly. That this wasn't, I mean, maybe it's like, okay, I can be this sometimes, but this is not the role I'm supposed to be playing in my life right now. Is that what it sounds like? This is interesting. But here's the other interesting thing. You've been studying human design for, I guess, three to five years by that point already. So what were you not listening to with your own study and practice of human design. Yes. What was your human design telling you to do that you were directly going against? This is really interesting. I think the emotional piece again, actually, with us, because I was so suppressing my own, my joy and my sadness.

57:11You were suppressing it. Suppressing. Why were you suppressing joy? Because I think England is a little different than America. you know you can't be too there were certain situations where I felt like and therefore was told but that's because I felt like it right that's why it actualized in the outside world you can't just you can't just drink tea at midnight and just be dancing on the on the table by yourself like you know have some alcohol fit in like sit down and be cool and have conversations and you know I I felt this like want to be kind of like you know unboundedly joyful for no reason that I suppressed.

57:47And I also suppressed tears, right? Because friends or society in England was like, oh, don't be too happy. Like, chill out. You're wacky, that's crazy, yeah. Yeah, relax a little bit. Yeah, you can't be a different reason. And when you were emotional or crying, they were like, what are you crying for? You know, they couldn't take it either way, the extremes. Yes, yes. It's kind of keep it in the middle of this, not servicey, but kind of not fully authentic way of being. Exactly. That's what I'm hearing you say. 100%. At least the people you're with or the places you're around. Yes. So you were surprising both emotions.

58:17Yes. To be more palatable. To be more accepted or fit in. Sure. Interesting. And now... To try to belong. Yes. But you weren't being fully authentic or vulnerable. No. And so you weren't actually belonging at all. Because you weren't belonging to yourself. And if you take it in this frame, like you're asking me, the emotion is your motor center as an emotional being, right? When you're an emotional being, emotions are your power center. It comes from your solar plexus, right? And you took it away. So when you take that away, firstly, you have less energy. Second of all, you can't make decisions, the correct decisions in your life.

58:54And you're suppressing all of your life force from directing your life forward. So if you imagine, okay, there was already certain things that were supposed to be in play to move my life forward for me from the universe, just like there is for all of us. You're literally holding them back from just, instead of just letting them, unleashing them, right letting your destiny move through you right because you're just holding yourself back because you're saying this is not a good way to be i don't want to be this way i don't want to be an emotional being okay so you're you're constricting all of that life was inside of you instead of letting it out so then you stay small and you don't use your voice that's all you didn't feel like you used your voice at all not until the end and then i think i'd suppressed it so much that it came out completely, how do you put this, disproportionate.

59:41You know, when you keep so many things inside. Extreme. Yeah. You say something, well, not even extreme, but you say I'm not happy and someone's like, what do you mean you're not happy? It's come out of nowhere. You seem happy the last few years. Yeah. You know, and that's unfair to do on a person. Uh-huh. Yeah. Instead of communicate along the way of, I feel sad today and I don't know why and it's nothing to do with you, but I just need my space to be sad. Right. That's what emotional things you're doing. There's no rhyme or reason sometimes when you feel really teary or you feel like I have different emotional way to other people Different sizes different behaviors different patterns of emotions.

1:00:16Mine is kind of sad and happy sad and happy I feel teary and then I want to dance down the street So I'm other like a moment It's a day-to-day I'd say okay gotcha And then other people you know when they are really low and these are people who often get diagnosed as being you know manic or bipolar or whatever there's just some people who have so much creative emotional power in them think about people who've moved the world through a song about a breakup right when they're in that songwriting process they need to remove themselves and be away from people and mire in that sadness so fully because it creates something inside them but instead if they're like no put on a brave face and go out there and be with people and hide that it's saving it's basically muffling all of that creative power inside them right low and high emotions is what makes a human experience worth living if everything was just neutral there'd be no point in being here right so the emotionals color life but we also need to be mindful of how much we allow other people like you to understand it's not about you if i'm sad today and if i come to you and i say i'm really sad today can i cry and then you hold my hand that makes us bond more.

1:01:30And you know, it's not about you. Right. And so it creates a deeper intimacy when people are okay with their emotions. Right. And sharing them. Yeah. A hundred percent. What do you think are the keys to manifesting? I think there's a couple. Firstly, did you manifest it or did the universe give you the sign of what to want? Because that's what it was trying to send you or get you to go towards it the first place. Right. Is it your voice or is it the universe's voice inside you. How do you know? Well, yeah, that's the number one thing. And I think the second thing about manifesting is there's a difference between manifesting a chocolate cake, okay, versus manifesting your purpose, your destiny, your soulmates, your life partners, things that are like really your things that were always supposed to be yours and always supposed to come to you.

1:02:19I think it's almost egotistical to say you manifested them, or maybe there just needs to be different words. Did you put the amount of energy into the right things and grow your consciousness to a level that you were able to then get those things? If that's what you want to call manifesting, those are the things. And in which case, it's okay to want anything, including money, if it comes from your soul. And you almost can't explain why you want that thing. If you're going after something you think you want because it's going to give you something else, then that's a short circuit because you might get it.

1:02:49But then, like you said, it might not stay or you might not be fulfilled during it. So I think you can manifest anything, but you may as well manifest those things that your soul really wants rather than the things that you think you should be manifesting or from an ego place. How do we know when it's a soul desire versus an ego desire that we want to manifest something? I think an ego desire is I want it because it's going to give me something else, like a secondary thing, or because I think I will like myself more or my parents will like me more when I want to, or I'll be more impressive to others, like you were saying about making other people happy, that kind of stuff.

1:03:25in which case if you really want to make your parents happy and that's a true desire from inside and you really feel this yearning from within that you don't even know why you want your parents to be happy maybe that was your karma of your life then just ask for that don't short circuit it by asking for the thing that you think is necessary for you to get that end result just ask for the end result and let the universe fill in the details you know but i think when it comes from your soul you can't explain why you want it you just it's just this drive of like and you know i tell people you can see in people's design people who are motivated by money their soul just wants money or their soul just wants fame or wants to be recognized or wants to be seen there's nothing inherently evil or wrong about those things right because for example your soul might make you want money so that you move into the house that's next door to the person that you had the greatest karma to heal with we don't know what leads to what so it's not good to like judge them by certain things are good to want or bad to want.

1:04:21But if you want them from a true purpose reason, it's coming from inside you and you can't explain why you want it or what you think it's going to give you. You just know you want it. This has been inspiring. Human design, the revolutionary system that shows you who you came here to be. I want you guys to make sure to get a copy of the book. Go to the app, myhumandesign.com, or you can go to myhumandesign on the app store as well to learn more about your energy type, the gifts that you have, and the roadmap that you should be taking in your life to live more fully, more authentically, and allow flow to come into your life.

1:05:00Make sure you guys get a copy of this. The universe has a plan for you, and human design is here to help you find it. So if you feel like you're not sure what's happening in your life, you feel stuck, you feel it's not clear, this could be a great place for you to get more clear on your unique blueprint and how to follow the roadmap. You're also on social media yourself, Jenna Zoe on Instagram, my.humandesign on Instagram as well, and the book myhumandesign.com slash book. This is a question I ask everyone towards the end of my interviews. It's called the three truths. So imagine a hypothetical scenario.

1:05:37It's the last day on earth, many years away. You get to live as long as you want to live. And you get to create and manifest all of the things that your human design tells you you're supposed to do. But for whatever reason on this last day, you have to take everything with you. The book, the app, the content, everything you've ever said or shared is gone from this world. But you get to leave behind three lessons to the world, three things you know to be true. And this is all we have to remember you by are these three truths. What would that be for you? Believe in every natural inclination inside you.

1:06:13You don't understand all those random things about you that you think are unacceptable, uncool. Nothing is in you by accident. So take a chance on those random, small, uncool things. Stretch yourself a little bit every day to make yourself more proud of yourself. nothing will give you the self-esteem than feeling like you've cultivated more of yourself and shared it with people every day. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. Before I ask the final question, Jenna, I want to acknowledge you for your courage to take on this journey for your life. And because you've taken on this journey for your life, you're able to help and inspire and impact so many more people than lacking the courage, than staying stuck or staying in a stagnant place in your life.

1:07:10You've opened yourself up to serve more, and that's really beautiful. So I'm grateful for you for leaning into this gift of yours, to this weird uniqueness of yours inside of you, and taking the steps toward it. It's been really inspiring to learn more about you, to connect with you today, to hear about the work you're doing with human design and the tens of thousands of people every day who are tapping into the information within them through your work. So I'm really grateful for what you're doing. Before I ask the final question, is there anything else on your heart or mind that we missed that you feel like we should be talking about today?

1:07:46That you feel like if the audience really heard that it would support them on a different level? How much time you got? I'm kidding. One of the things I think I'm seeing a lot of recently is a lot of questioning our worth. A lot of sitting on our couch trying to find our problems, sitting on our couch trying to feel worthy. Sitting on, I think a lot of it is that you flexing yourself out in the real world is what will give you the feedback that you are worthy, that will give you the feedback that you are not, you know, you're not your trauma. Going out and playing with matter, with the fabric of life is what changes us, you know, rather than trying to.

1:08:28Meditation is amazing and, you know, visualizing and all those things are wonderful. but there's a true alchemy in let me this whole thing is set up here for you to dance with right and I think there's a real powerful thing in reframing action is push push push grab grab grab then just like let me see with all this stuff like what can I do with it you know and that's when you really learn about what you're capable of is when you see yourself be it and that's so healing I think so not just sitting in your room asking yourself am I worthy but going out and living life and experiencing it and playing with the magic of life.

1:09:06Yeah. And so that you can see your worthiness come out of you. So you can see, oh, I actually do like how good of a person I am to this person. I actually do like seeing myself come out of this effortless gift that comes out of me. And I do see that not everyone has it. And oh, so maybe it is there, right? Because again, if you're sitting at home, it's only through your mind that you're understanding it. You're not living it through feeling it in your cells, you know? Absolutely. There's a difference. That's beautiful. Final question. What's your definition of greatness? Taking everything that is yours to begin with and turning it into an expression that you love.

1:09:44Thank you so much. Appreciate you. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad-free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our Greatness Plus channel exclusively on Apple Podcasts. Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward.

1:10:25And I want to remind you, if no one has told you lately, that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.