Brain Experts: THIS Causes Trauma Bonding! Use These Strategies To Heal!

25:14Let me put a splint on it and heal it up. We're not trained that way. There is no easy answer. Yeah. But what I will say is that trauma, just these are my concepts. They're not. Yes. There's therapeutic trauma. And what I mean by that is resetting a bone after it's broken, the pain of a cancer surgery, but then you know that your cancer has been cut out. Like, that's good pain. Right. And we're just talking about physical trauma. Yes. Then there's emotional trauma if people are attacked that's also intimately connected to emotional trauma, right? So the people who don't have memory after certain injuries or operations, they never have PTSD because they don't remember it.

26:03So the emotional context and memories related to trauma, be it emotional, physical or a combination, requires memory. That's cool. I like to think about like as a concept. I don't have a solution for I don't. Hey, don't do these three things. You'll be better. sort of not my approach because when people did that with me I was like how do you know what I'm going through man you look at me you think everything's good are you sure are you sure I wasn't attacked last night are you sure I didn't find out that my patient didn't do well last night are you sure I didn't find out a loved one was diagnosed with something you know like I just don't want to put people in the in in boxes in fact I want people to know that they are new every day I'm not even the same version of myself I was before the last few years how can I be understood as a group of people, a man or a surgeon.

26:55You know, I just want people to think of each other as individuals and dynamic. That said, I never judge people's trauma to be better or worse. People are looking or stronger or justified. They're looking at everybody's going to have a traumatic event in their life. Whether it's a car crash or hearing, it's unavoidable. It's partly because we put ourselves out there. It's partly because the way we approach the world is to be completely adaptive, right? If we're rigid, then there's less chances for trauma, but that's a life less well-lived. So when you put yourself out there, traumatic experiences are unavoidable, that said.

27:37Okay, so that said, yeah, you get a bruise. What I'm hearing you say is that if we don't have the memory of the traumatic event, we don't have PTSD. We don't have trauma. We don't have a trauma tail. Right, so that's the concept that I want people to walk away and say, memory is important, but memory is the thing that determines whether the event remains traumatic in your heart and mind. Whether it's painful still for you. So let's get into that. So we just need to heal the memory of the trauma. That's exactly where I'm taking it. Very good. So memories are not files in a cabinet. In the brain.

28:19Yeah. How is memory categorized? So again, there are some regions that if we remove them, you would lose memory. But memory is not only there. It relies on pulling from memories of smell to new – like, for example, smell is very interesting. It's one of the five senses that we can't tamp down with our thinking. So the perfume or cologne, smell and memory are intimately intertwined. And so you're pulling from all different parts of the brain. Again, memory is a certain electrical flow in the brain. Um, but it's not, it's malleable. It's moldable. Just because you have a certain memory today doesn't mean that that experience, good or bad, will remain good or bad.

29:04Our positive vibe right now can be made negative. Our negative vibe right now can be made positive as we look back at our day to day. So when you see memory that way, then you say, okay, wait a second. I was attacked or I was hurt or something really traumatized me. And when I think of it, when I smell that smell, when I see that color, I'm traumatized again. I clench up. I have stress, fear, anxiety. So the emotional context to a memory is what you can change. You don't want dementia. You don't want to delete the memory because that's a different problem. Yeah. You don't want to block it. You don't want, yeah.

29:46But what you want to do is change the emotional context attached to that memory. What happens if we, you hear this from people a lot who might have been traumatized as kids, where they forget, they kind of block the memory and then they remember it. When it resurfaces, it's still raw. It's very raw. Yeah. But they've stuffed it, they've blocked it, they've numbed it, addicted it, whatever you want to call it. Driven it to addiction. Yeah, exactly. So what happens when. I don't know. I don't know about the kid stuff as much because that's a different space and I don't want to, you know, I want to stay where I feel real comfortable with what I've been reading and learning.

30:21So emotional context and memory for adults in the right setting with the right person through, you know, they have their techniques. You can actually work through the trauma of the memory and experience by going to certain therapists who help you get better with that. To process the memory. Yeah, just to take the emotional pain, right, the emotional trauma and dampen that so you can say, for example, yeah, I was, you know, I'm just bringing examples from my world. Yeah, I mean, when I was diagnosed with cancer, that's a traumatic event. And then you see my patients, you see them over time through different ways.

31:09When they say, they say, I was diagnosed with cancer and I did this. Their face is different describing it later than it was immediately after receiving the diagnosis. So that's a real life example, right? It doesn't have to be all the stuff related to violence and all that. The traumatic experience of a cancer diagnosis and how patients cope with that immediately. and then you see them months later, years later, because I'd be a mess, right? I'd be like, okay, this is, I wouldn't be able to cope. But they, surprisingly, not some of them, most of them cope. They get dressed, they come in for their three-month scans, which to me would be a traumatic experience every time.

31:53Is this guy going to tell me it's back or it's bigger? I mean, think about like getting that, did nothing in your mail or email. I got to go in for this news again. But somehow they cope. And that's where in Life on a Knife's Edge, I learned so much from them that it's possible to cope with traumatic experiences. I'm not saying you as an individual can. I'm not saying I can. But when you look at a group of cancer patients and most of them cope, live, move on from very traumatic emotional experiences as well as physical experience of cancer pain and cancer surgery. Right. That's the lesson I want everybody to go through in their mind when they're dealing with their own challenges.

32:38Wow. Again, I'm always fascinated by having different types of experts, people that understand the world in a different way. And specifically when it comes to trauma, if you can meet with someone who's done over a thousand brain surgeries, who's gotten to get inside the brain of a thousand different people, there might be some wisdom there. And here's a brain surgeon and a neuroscientist talking about how we need to be aware of these patterns. We need to be catching them, being aware of them, and processing these things. We can't just be aware and just keep letting these things hurt us, keep letting the trauma, the emotions, the thoughts continue to affect us in a negative way.

33:15We have to be aware of it, and then we have to process these things. We have to create emotional regulation, which is something that he talks about as well in the full interview that we did, where you can check out in the show notes below. But again, what was your big takeaway from that moment with the neuroscientist and the brain surgeon? Let me know in the comments. And to wrap up this episode, we have a powerful next moment. And this is none other than Jeezy. Now, Jeezy, if you don't know who he is, his story is a powerful one. And in this segment, he shares how he redefined success as finding inner peace rather than material wealth.

33:54And here's an individual who had a very traumatic childhood, lots of different stuff that he was dealing with. And he shares his remarkable story of triumph over adversity, from overcoming traumatic events to collaborating with music legends like Jay-Z, Kanye West, and Rihanna. And as you listen to Jay-Z and his journey of overcoming trauma and finding fulfillment beyond material wealth, I want you to ask yourself, how can you redefine success in your own life to prioritize inner peace and personal growth? And again, something to think about also, just because you or someone else is able to create incredible external success, it doesn't mean they have internal freedom.

34:35It doesn't mean that they feel emotional peace. It doesn't mean they have love for themselves or that they're not struggling internally. Just because you can accomplish externally doesn't mean you figured it out internally how to find that peace. And I think that's the important thing here is like I was chasing things my whole life to try to overcome the feeling of not feeling enough and running away from the traumas of the past. Those things, until I addressed them and processed them, kept showing up in my life. So again, just another example right here. So let's go ahead and take a look. Inner peace, emotional peace, and self-belief and self-confidence, while also knowing that people that you grew up with, or, you know, you're losing friends to death or jail or, and still happening today, how do you feel peace, calm, and confident?

35:27Right. Running a business, running your life, traveling with your wife, whatever it might be, how do you feel those things? I feel peace because I know that when it's all said and done, my kids gonna know that their father was a great man. I feel peace in knowing that there's no better husband in the world than me. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm that guy. You know what I'm saying? Because this is something I strive for. Like, I wanted these things. I know that when it comes down to my culture, there's nobody that's realer than me. Because I'm not a rapper. Like, I'm not... I'm a prophet in my mind.

36:07I mean, I'm here to share what I've learned and to share what I know and hoping that it can change lives. Wow. Right, and save lives because that's the only thing I can do at this point. You can give me a billion dollars, I'm going to live the same life. Of course, I want it. Right, right, right. I want more people, but I'm going to still be the same person. And for me, it's like I get peace and knowing that I got good friends now and I can build with. You know, I just had my homie lost one of his nephews and the other one lost his cousin. But it was a time where as black men, we couldn't even talk to each other about how we felt.

36:45I'm in a circle of people now. I could tell them like, man, I'm, man, I don't know how I'm, and we all come together and we talk about this and I ain't judging you. It didn't used to be like that. I used to have to keep all my feelings and everything that I was feeling balled up inside and deal with it myself, you know, which caused me to go outside of my comfort zone to find the answers, which was a great thing. But now I can call, you know, one of my brothers or somebody and say, hey, look, man, well, you know, my man, I finally, his nephew died. And the next day, my other man's cousin died.

37:16And it's just like, now I got to make these calls. But the calls are like, they're intentional. Hey, bro, if you need to process this, you need to just sit down, like, you want to smoke a cigar, let's just talk. you know and and that's a different type of piece yeah right because now i got an outlet and then what gives me peace is i started getting mentors whether it was my uh because i had a mentor yours and bishop jakes isn't it bishop jakes is one of my mentors john maxwell oh yeah i just had john on he's great green oh robert's amazing uh tony robbins yeah man uh you name it you know these These are my, this is my circle.

37:53It's me now. And for me, it's like these are people that I can reach out to, to even help me process stuff I need to process for the people that I love. Wow. I want to help, right? Because now we all got this. You know what I'm saying? Sure, sure. It's not just mine, right? And what brings me peace is knowing that, you know, my decisions can change lives, right? Because my decisions have took lives. meaning like I've been a part of things you know but now it's not like I just turn this new leaf and I'm just in a different space it's like this is who I am this is who I was evolving to be I just had to go through the fire just to understand because I can't look at you with a straight face and go I wouldn't do that I don't think that's good and I never did it I'm gonna be like yo man I've been there and that's why when my brothers come to me if they're going through something or whatever I can sit down and have a intentional conversation about, you know, processing it and understanding where we at.

38:57And then we can, and here's that street sense kicks in again. Oh, you ever thought about this? And you should sit out with such and such and y 'all figure that out. And that's how it works. How old were you when you started to be able to open up and have these types of conversations about your emotions, about your feelings, about your thoughts, as opposed to just with yourself? because I never spoke about any of my emotions until I was about 10 years ago when I hit 30. That's when I started to process and heal and be able to talk about these things that I was like, no one could ever know this stuff.

39:29I would say when I was 40. Really? Yeah, it's less than five years ago. Wow, that's when you started to be able to say, all right, let me start processing or opening up. Well, what happened was I was living in Malibu and my music was changing. Louis Farrakhan hit me. Brother Farrakhan. He was like, Jeezy, brother Jeezy, your music is changing. The enemy is coming. I'm just like, my enemy is in my neighborhood. He ain't coming where I'm in Malibu. He's like, I'm just telling you. Get off the phone with him. Next week, I'm on tour with Khalifa. Young man gets killed by my tour bus. And they lock me and my crew up.

40:05So now I'm sitting in L.A. County Jail. $10 million in bail. You know what I'm saying? Because there's 10 people on the bus. Oh, I didn't do anything. First time in my life. I ain't doing it. And I'm sitting there. You're on the bus. Well, actually, I got off the bus. Oh, wow. And went to a hotel room. And then I came. But it was your bus. Going to the bus the next morning. They followed us to the next venue. Oh, man. That's where they got me at. Holy cow. And now I'm sitting in jail, 10 people in jail, million dollars apiece,$10 million. And my team came to get me out the first day, right? And I go, I can't leave them in L.A.

40:40in jail. I cannot. You know what I'm saying? And so let me figure out how to get everybody out and then we'll get out together. So I got everybody out on bail because we still had to go to court. I had to pay for all that. Wow. Flying everybody back and forth, field of court, whatever. Shout out to my lawyer, Blair. Blair Brad, she killed it. But the thing was that one last time I was depending on the people that was my people to make sure that my family and my people was straight. And when I got home, when I finally got out, nobody did anything. Really? And I was, because I've been the bad for everybody.

41:18I don't pay for things that ain't got nothing to do. It ain't even my business, right? And I was just so devastated because I'm like, yo, what if this would have been it? What if I would have passed? You're not going to make sure my kids are good. Y 'all not going to check on my daughter's mother. Y 'all not going to do these things. And it's just like, I've done that for y 'all, right? And I'm not pointing any fingers. I'm just saying, like, I know what I would do, right? And that's when I started to learn I can't put my expectations on anybody. Right. Right. So now I got to do what's best for me because now I feel like I'm all alone.

41:47Wow. So I was it. I cut everything. And then that's when I went on my mission to just start. And one of my business partners, we used to always just sit down and talk, have a bottle of wine, smoke a cigar. And he's like, what do you want to do? I was like, I want to do real estate. And he just went to a real estate. I started doing real estate. That did well for me. I want to do spirit. So this is all what we did. So I'm like, why don't I just do that in life? So I, Robin Green, I call Robin Green to go to the LA Athletic Club so I have tea. I ask him seven questions and he started giving me this game.

42:18Wow. John Maxwell who came to marry me and my wife. Wow. You know, in my backyard. That's amazing. And one of my best friends and me and John talking, he gives me this insight and I just started to move towards the light. You know what I'm saying? Because I just wanted to get a different perspective because I didn't have anybody around me and give me their perspective. And T.D. Jakes, same thing. And I'm not just saying it because these are established people. These are men that have done well in their lives and their community. And their relationships. And their relationships that want to share something with me that I didn't have any access to.

42:51Wow. And that's what made me start to open up and start to understand and start to be at peace and start to do all these things because now I know it's okay. Holy cow. So before five years ago, when you would face a challenge Let me say this too, though. I met my wife on set when I went to do her show, because she works in television, to promote an album I was working on. And I told my publicist, I said, yo, I'm going to marry that woman. But I knew that I had to do some work on myself. Sure, sure. So this is the five years that I would have gotten myself together. Then I came back and I was like, yo, I'm actually ready for you.

43:32Holy cow. Yeah. So you met her right around that time, five years ago or whatever. Wow. So this is fascinating because did you kind of let go of all those people in your life around that time? I mean, I wouldn't say let go because it wasn't that easy, but I just think we grew apart and things just started to happen differently. They didn't want to go on the same path as you. So naturally, they're not going to be spending as much time as you. Yeah. And then it just, you know, it got a little crazy for a while. Imagine, man. People don't like watching someone else change and doing things differently, especially if you've known for a long time and you're used to doing certain things with them.

44:10Well, they want you to be the old you because it makes them be uncomfortable. The new you makes people be uncomfortable. And for me, I just kind of felt like the hardest decision I've ever made in my life, hardest decision I've ever made in my life. Was what? Was to walk alone. Hardest decision I've ever made in my life. It was like, I mean, for the first, the motivation came for the first three albums up until my album, The Recession. I had so much survivor's remorse and I was so like in a bad place. Like I was drinking like you wouldn't believe. Oh, my God. I was 260 pounds. Skin was bad. I was just like, you know, because I thought I was going to prison the whole time.

44:55I'm just because everybody around me started to get indicted. So I'm like, just waiting. It's coming. Like if me and you hanging out and you get indicted, I'm like, man, they got Louis. That's my man. Right. Where am I going? And it was just like the whole thing. So a lot of the music and why I was so, so strong and direct was it because I just wanted to be heard. In my mind, I'm just like, like I'm going to be gone. So this is my only chance. So I really focused on the music, put everything in the music. Cause I was just like, I just want to leave this behind. If I'm not going to make it out this.

45:26And I was in such a, and this is the thing, I didn't have the verbiage for all these things I was going through. A language. You didn't have to communicate it yet. I didn't know what depression was. I didn't know what anxiety was. Like, I didn't know these things. I didn't have no, well, you think I can go to the next room with one of my homeboys and be like, I'm feeling crazy. I think it's anxiety. You're like, yo, man. Drink this, smoke this. Hey, chill out, bro, if you buggy. And on top of paranoia. On top of paranoia. One of the cops coming in, one of someone come with a gun. Everybody I would see, I would just think, you know, that the agents, that this and that, all these things are going on.

45:56I'm trying to make music. And I was just so depressed. I was just drinking so much. And I was like waiting, waiting to the day. Like I would just go to sleep sometimes. Like, okay, if it's a day, I'm prepared. And mind you, the whole time this is going on, because I'm, I'm built the way that I'm built, I'm distancing myself farther away from my family, my sisters, you know, my cousins, my dad, my mom at the time before she passed because I'm preparing. Right. Because if I go, I don't want to be like, I can't be a weak link. Wow. You know, because I miss the outside of my mom, my family. So I'm mentally distancing myself from them because I don't want that to affect me if I got to go to prison.

46:43Holy cow. All that's going on. And it was one day, I never forget. I started to work on the recession and I was dealing with this young lady. and we had this breakup. She was a public person. We had a breakup. And I just went in the studio the same night, and I didn't come out until I worked with a session. And what I was doing was I was reading books. This is something new for me. What year is this? This is 08. 07, going into 08, right? Reading books. I was watching the news. I was working out. Now I'm in the gym. I don't know how to work out because I don't like to be told what to do, so I ain't want to go with a trainer.

47:22So now I'm YouTubing videos. You know what I'm saying? You know, YouTube was my best friend and I learned how to eat clean, you know, how to stay hydrated. I'm drinking water for like, I would go months without water. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it was Chris Dahl. Oh my gosh, man. Chris Dahl and Waffle House. That was my diet. And I was like, and I lost 60 pounds and I wrote The Recession, which was one of the best albums in my opinion than I've ever written in life because it was dealing with politics, the world, the things were going on. I wrote My President is Black before Barack Obama. Wow, right? This was before he won.

47:59This was like six months before he won. And then he won. So that made that song go even crazy. I had put on with Kanye West. This was the first verse that he did since his mom passed. And now I'm going to do shows. And when I used to do my shows, it used to be like all the gangsters and gang members and the drug dealers in the front row. Now I'm down. I'm like 190, 185, right? And I'm doing shows and it's all women in the front. Really? Yeah. And I go do my first show on the recession tour. They think they're looking at Usher or what? Right, yeah. And I'm doing the show and I come out on stage and all this stuff starts flying on the stage.

48:37I'm looking at my security guard. I'm like, yo, what you going to do with this? He said, boss. I said, what's going on? He said, it's bras and stuff. I was like, oh my God. Panties and bras. Right. You know what I mean? And from that standpoint on, I was like, oh, I can be better. I can look better. I can be better. And this is when I came into stardom. This is when I gave myself. Yeah, this is the first time. My third album was the first time in my whole career where I said, you are a bona fide star. You have to go out here and you got to do what you got to do. And you can't worry about your past.

49:06You have to be what you become. And that's when I fell into like cheesy. Right. That was the first time I felt like I was worthy. Really? Yeah. Because before then, I'm like, I'm thinking it's a fluke. you know, I'm like, huh, you know, I'm selling a few records, but it ain't the type of money I'm used to. Let's talk about that. I don't say, and how long was it really going to last? You know what I'm saying? And you're not even really an artist. So, you know, you can write a hit album and be talented and can't write another one. Right. A lot of people do that. Right. So now I'm, I'm starting to process that.

49:43Cause I'm like, okay, I got one. What happens now? You know? So now I'm trying to stay in the studio, but I'm not living the same life that I was when I was writing these records. Right. Because I'm on the, I'm transitioning. So I'm seeing things different and you know, nobody wants to hear that. So what are you going to do? Right. How many, how many people in, in the, the music business that you interact with truly believe that they're worthy of love and peace and success? I can't really speak because I know for me, I just feel like, I just feel like I'm just a grown man. I don't group myself in that.

50:24Sure, sure. Not that I have any disrespect for it. Right. But it's like, you know, it's like if I go to a golf club and everybody there is, you know, well off, I might want to play golf, but I don't want to be in their group. Right. Right. And I think that it's hard to get to know somebody when they don't know themselves. You know what I'm saying? It's hard, you know, because they're living out who they think they are, who people told them they are. A false identity. Yeah, you know, you can't get to know them because they're going by a name that they made up and that is who they are, and that's how people perceive them in the world, right?

51:02And, you know, not to say that anybody's a bad person, but it's almost like you go to a wrestling match, you got to know the Undertaker ain't the Undertaker at home. Right, right, right, right. You know what I'm saying? You got to know that, right? but I think that's the difference because I'm jeezy at home. I'm jeezy every day. Like it ain't got nothing to do with the music. The music just happened to be a part of what I'm doing. So, I mean, the music, you said this earlier, you weren't never, you never were trying to be an artist. You were never trying to be a musician, an artist, a rapper. You weren't trying to.

51:29I loved the music though. You loved it? That was the thing because I learned, and I talk about that a lot in the book, I learned a lot from like Tupac's core because he had morals and values before I knew what they were. He stood for something. You know, he was a revolutionary. I didn't know that you can have an opinion about this stuff. You see what I'm saying? He stood on that. He died for it. He's like, you know, what's the difference between him and anybody else that was assassinated? He died for what he believed in, right? And the things that he believed in gave people like myself some type of moral compass.

52:03Because I knew I couldn't do that because Bog said you couldn't do that, right? And then I knew I shouldn't do that because he said somebody did this to him and that's how I was starting to pull things out of the music. So I loved the music. So I was listening to like the Pox and the Masterpiece and the 8-Ball, the MJGs. I didn't listen to the music just to hear it and enjoy it. I listened to the music like sermons. Wow. I'm trying to find the word in there. The message. The message. And that's why I love music so much. And it was like. But you weren't trying to be a musician. No. I was trying to be.

52:35Honestly, I was trying to be an entrepreneur before I knew what entrepreneurship was. because the guys that I saw that was doing it on a major level was the Master P's and the Cash Monies. You know, they were living this crazy life, and I was hustling trying to get the stuff that they was getting. Like, I bought Lexuses and Rolex watches and all this stuff at that time. Like, I was known for that. You know what I mean? Like, people know, if you know me, I had the latest car, I had the best watch I had. And this was before music. Right. But these were the entrepreneurs, and I'm like, well, I can do this.

53:07I just got to go find some talent. So I was. So you're trying to be the label. You were trying to buy the talent. I was dealing with some guys out of Florida that I was kind of getting some money with in the streets. And they had a record company that they was building. Right. And we went like to this Black Spring break in Daytona or something. They had like the Winnebago's and the cars with their stuff on, their T-shirts. And I was just like, I could do that. So I went back to Georgia, bought a studio, went to the neighborhood, got some artists. There wasn't artists. There was the homies. You know what I'm saying?

53:41Got artists. And, you know, put everybody down. My man was with me as well. And we put everybody in the studio. And we was trying to make records. And we was trying to get our name out there. And it just didn't go that way. And then the charges came down. People started getting real time. Yeah. So on and so forth. And now we stuck with this studio with no artists. And everybody like, well, look, you really lived the life. You might as well talk about it. Wow. I was a little reserved because I'm already, again, good over here. The last thing I want to do is go over here and look corny. Right. Because I don't really truly have talent.

54:19Like, I'm not writing sorrows every day. However, when I went back to my childhood, I had to realize, my wife is going to kill me about this, but there was a girl in my class when I went to school in Hawaii, right? and she was different than this or whatever. And I was just like, wow. You know, because I had never seen, this is my first time out of the hood. Like, I've never seen this. So I'm like, so I started writing her poems. And then the more I wrote her poems, my dad would come in like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm writing another poem. He's like, man, come on. So I wrote her poems like every day and then she ended up becoming best friend, best girlfriend.

54:56But I realized that the way I can articulate myself when I write was something special then because you're feeling what I want you to feel. Yeah, I'm getting the result. Right. I'm with you now. Right. You know what I'm saying? I can see we're connected. Right. And I just remember that. Interesting. And then when I started to understand how to put my life into words, it started to be therapeutic for me because now it's like, oh, I did deal with that. Oh, that is trauma. Wow. I did go through that. How did I overcome that? And now I'm putting it in my music. And that's why my music has always been about motivation.

55:32It's been about inspiration. It's been about how can I help you with my pain? How can I prevent you from feeling what I felt? And even if you do, how do I make you feel like you're not alone in this? That's where the music came from. Because if you go back to Pac, thug life was a movement. But if you listen to it, you think it's about killing and robbing. It's not. It's about standing for something. Right? It just made it make sense to us. Sure. Because we all feel like we're living the thug life, right? Wow. So I came back and my first album was Thug Motivation because I wanted to set it up like a class.

56:02That's cool. This is something you sit down and you and then my second album was The Inspiration. Right. And then my third album was The Recession. So look at the, you know what I'm saying? And the crazy thing is I got the recession from being in a room with these guys. I went to this little private dinner. I'm in a room with all these guys that got all this money and they were so concerned. It was like, you know, the recession is coming. I'm thinking about selling this and doing that. And I got to get rid of this business. And I'm going like, you guys got a lot of money. Like, what are you worried about?

56:29And he's like, do you know what a recession is? I'm like, yeah, but I didn't. So I went back and Googled it. And I'm like, huh. So I'm asking questions now. What happens with this? How does that happen? So when I wrote The Recession, that was me running back to tell the culture what I just learned. My big takeaway from Jeezy is that inner peace is the new rich. Again, it's nice to have money. It's nice to be able to have nice things. It's nice to be able to have flexibility with, you know, a nice car or be able to travel a certain way or have a nice home. These are nice things. These are blessings to have.

57:00But the real blessing is inner peace. That is the ultimate rich. That is the richness of life is feeling inner peace and feeling free. And again, this is Jeezy talking about this, a man who went after all the fame, the success, the wealth, the material possessions, but didn't have that inner peace and realized on his healing journey how much incredible wealth there is with having that inner peace. Leave a comment below. share with me your biggest takeaway from all these different experts on overcoming trauma. And if you found these insights helpful or want to explore more, then I encourage you to check the full conversations below linked in our description, wherever you're watching or listening to this conversation.

57:40And again, reflect on the concepts and questions discussed as you continue your own healing journey. As my therapist says, healing is not a destination, it is a journey. And I think every day, the more you're aware of the things that have triggered or traumatized you in the past, the more you can process and heal those things, the less those things will affect you in your daily life. They'll just, you know, be little disturbances every now and then, but they won't take over your nervous system and make you react at every moment when you feel you're being triggered or traumatized. Make sure to dive into our resources below.

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