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Podcast Summary: The School of Greatness - Episode with David Ghiyam
Episode Overview In this transformative episode of *The School of Greatness*, host Lewis Howes interviews David Ghiyam, a spiritual teacher and co-founder of MaryRuth Organics. David shares his profound insights into the universal spiritual laws that can unlock abundance in all aspects of life. He reflects on his journey from early financial success to struggles and ultimately building a nine-figure company, all while emphasizing the importance of aligning with spiritual principles for sustainable success.
Key Learnings and Insights
Manifestation and Spiritual Laws
- Desires as Indicators: If you have desires, it indicates you are meant to receive them at some point.
- Suffering as Optional: David challenges the belief that suffering is necessary for success, suggesting that shifting one’s consciousness can lead to effortless manifestation.
- Energy and Vibration: Understanding one's spiritual vessel is crucial for manifesting desires; a person must raise their vibration to attract abundance.
Factors Lowering Vibration
- Limited Belief Systems: Beliefs that limit financial success or personal happiness can sabotage growth.
- Example: A business owner may unconsciously believe they do not deserve wealth beyond a certain amount, leading to self-sabotage.
- Competing Beliefs: An individual may desire growth but fear the responsibilities that come with it, leading to conflicting internal narratives.
The Role of Judgment
- Judging Others: Judging others leads to similar challenges in one’s own life. This judgment shrinks one’s spiritual vessel, making it harder to manifest desires.
Soulmates and Relationships
- Finding Love: Many struggle to find their soulmate due to underlying fears and conflicting beliefs about relationships.
- Spiritual Baggage: Kissing or being intimate with someone connects you to their spiritual baggage, making it essential to be mindful of partners.
Personal Journey and Financial Success
- David’s Financial Journey: He made his first million at 15 but faced years of financial struggle afterwards. His commitment to spiritual work and alignment with universal laws led to his eventual business success.
- Creating a Vessel for Abundance: To receive abundance, individuals must expand their spiritual vessel, which involves cleansing negativity and aligning with a higher purpose.
Practical Wisdom
- Certainty Beyond Logic: Cultivating certainty in the good outcomes you desire can help draw them into your life.
- Transform Negativity: Viewing challenges and difficulties as opportunities for growth and part of the Divine design.
- Empathy in Business: By not judging competitors and fostering relationships based on mutual support, businesses can thrive in a collaborative environment.
Final Thoughts
- Making God Look Good: David emphasizes the importance of serving a higher purpose and making the Creator look good through one’s actions.
- Lessons on Greatness: Greatness is defined as creating an environment where others feel blessed by your presence and actions.
Closing Remarks The episode emphasizes the power of spiritual laws in achieving personal and financial success, along with the importance of maintaining a high vibration and serving others. David’s insights into manifestation, relationships, and personal development provide a roadmap for listeners seeking to unlock their inner greatness.
Additional Resources
- Kabbalah ONE Course: Learn more about universal spiritual laws and enhance your ability to manifest your desires at [Kabbalah ONE](https://discover.kabbalah.com/k1-ondemand/).
- Follow David Ghiyam: Stay connected via [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/davidghiyam/) for more insights.
Key Quotes
- “Suffering is optional and how to shift your consciousness to manifest more effortlessly.”
- “Judging others creates the exact same challenges in your own life.”
- “The creator wants to give you everything, unlimited.”
For more details, visit the episode page on [Lewis Howes’ website](https://www.lewishowes.com/1692).
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Whatever your desires are, it means you are meant to receive them at some point. don't question that what do you think people are getting wrong about manifestation today i think there's a prevailing belief system that we need to suffer to be successful and that's incorrect the co-founder of mary ruth organics david kiem an entrepreneur known as the leading speakers for teaching kabbalah david kiem we are destined to have abundance in every part of our lives not just one if you earned your soulmate that one person would appear right at your door. When your consciousness and belief systems and energy is in the right place, then you will be guided.
0:42Your legs will start moving in the right direction. Your profile on a dating app algorithmically will change. People will feel their energy. So what are the three things that lower our vibration then from manifesting more? Right at the top of the list. It has to do with... Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest. We have the inspiring David Guillaume in the house. My man, good to see you here. Thank you for having me. Thanks for being here, man. I've been watching your content online for a while now. And you have built a massive business in the last eight to ten years.
1:19And you use a lot of these kind of spiritual laws or practices that you say have supported you in building this business, but also just manifesting the things you want in your life. And you didn't always have financial success. You were in a lot of debt. You were struggling. And it sounds like you started to learn these practices to support you in creating the life of your dreams. Is that correct? That's fairly correct, yeah. And I wanted to start with, I want to hear more about your story in a bit. But I wanted to start off with what you think are the biggest things that are lowering people's vibration in order to stunt their manifestation opportunities.
1:58What are the things you see today? You've coached, I think, hundreds or thousands of people, I think 20 ,000 hours of coaching on these spiritual laws. What are the things that are stunting people's vibration that's hurting them from manifesting more? Well, in order to understand what's stunting people's growth and vibration, it's good for people to know what they're made up of because we as souls are vessels of energy. So in the same way that a 60-watt bulb can hold 60 watts of energy, if I want to be able to draw 1 ,000 watts of energy via a soulmate, via prosperity, via healing, this is all energy that I want to draw into, I have to realize that it's not just a function of how do I grab more energy or how do I get more things.
2:46I have to transform my spiritual vessel to be able to hold this energy. So then in my spiritual practice, which is Kabbalah, it's universal ancient wisdom. All Kabbalah explains is how I can become the spiritual vessel, the perfect vessel to manifest all these blessings. The blessings want to come in. People think like, you know, how will I ever find love or is this meant for me or will I ever find my purpose? If you desire it, it means that this energy exists causing you to desire it. You will never want something that doesn't already exist waiting for you to manifest it. But we have spiritual laws.
3:27In the same way we have physical laws of like the science explains, like gravity is a physical law of the universe. Everybody has to abide by it. You can't choose not to. There are spiritual laws of consciousness, spiritual laws of finding your soulmate, spiritual laws of finding your purpose or healing. There are universal spiritual laws that if we abide by them, we create the vessel to draw that energy in. So every day there are things that we are doing that are either getting us closer to becoming that 1 ,000-watt bulb or that 5 ,000-watt bulb, or there are things that we're doing that's shrinking our vessel, causing us to not be able to have the capacity to hold the blessings that we crave and desire.
4:07And often when we're not getting those blessings, we start to blame things outside of ourselves, other people, our circumstances, family members, the economy, politics. And every time we blame anything outside of ourselves, we shrink our vessel even more. And then that spiral takes over. And then there is a circuit breaker, spiritual circuit breaker, that when a person keeps doing negative actions and negative vibrations and they get lower and lower, there's something that's called pain. Pain is the circuit breaker. Pain comes in to cleanse a person of negativity and expands their vessel again.
4:45So either you can expand yourself through all the things that you talk about, all the things that you teach, all the things that your guests talk about, expanding their conscience and expanding their vessel, or pain and suffering can also get you there. Really? So what are the three things that lower our vibration then from manifesting more? Three things I would say that lower our vibration from manifesting more, probably at the top of the list. it has to do with limited belief systems and competing belief systems. So what's a limited belief system? And I interact with people on a daily basis who, when they talk with you, they eventually reveal what their limited belief systems are.
5:25So for example, a limited belief system. I had a guy who had a business, several businesses, and he's able to scale his company to a certain amount of revenue. Let's say whatever it was, like 10 million of revenue. Each company he can easily scale to that point. But something always happened at$10 million in revenue. Lawsuits would come in, employees would leave, chaos, challenges, government issues, and it was a repeated pattern in each of his companies. What this means is as the founder that controls the energy of the company, there's something that's limited in his consciousness and his belief system that gets triggered at the$10 million mark.
6:00One of the things could be, for example, here's a belief system that people who are too wealthy or successful actually is not a good thing, or that money becomes evil after a certain point. So for him, he had a deserving issue. He realized he didn't deserve to have wealth beyond that amount. And so there's a part of him that started to sabotage subconsciously the company at the 10 million mark. I had another person that I used to work with, she has 20 employees, maybe a company that's $5 million of revenue. And she's asking, why can't I grow this company? It's been stagnant for years. So I asked her a question.
6:38I said, what do you not like about your business? She said, I don't really like managing employees. I think they're paying. I think there's always issues. There's entitlement. I absolutely it drains me all day long. I hate dealing with employees. So I told her, I said, when you're on a Zoom call trying to close a new client that will bring you a million dollars of revenue, do you realize that you are subconsciously hoping that she does not sign up with you because it means you're going to have to hire five more employees to service her account? So there is a part of her that wants the growth, and then there's another part of her that subconsciously is sending out a vibration saying, I hope I don't grow.
7:18So that's a competing belief system. So we have limited ones, which usually are around deserving, and then there's competing ones. and we see this in relationships all the time. A person, I remember once teaching a group of women, 15 like really type A personalities, great souls. And they're in their mid thirties to early forties, all single. And they're like, we want you to teach us the secrets of how we can find our soulmate. So I said here, I said, well, what do you all share in common? You're all very successful. You all know how to manifest. Why can't you manifest a relationship? What we realized at the end of the session was there's a big part of them that wants love, wants companionship.
7:56But they're afraid of it too. They're afraid of it too. There's another part of them that's hidden. They don't talk about, they love being single. They love their autonomy. They don't want to lose their bodies to having children. They don't want somebody telling them what to do. They don't want to share a bathroom. They associate a relationship with limitation. And so what happens by the third or fourth date, they begin to sabotage or look for what's wrong. And so everyone who's listening, if there's a part of your life that keeps getting stuck, it means there's either a limited belief system around deserving or a competing belief system where you are causing some form of subconscious sabotage to happen.
8:38It's like you have the parking brake on, but your foot's also on the gas and you're wondering why the car's not moving. Right. What's been the biggest limiting belief system in your life that blocked you from abundance?
8:52Well, it's a great question. Or you're still doing it. So when I was 15 years old, I had made my first million dollars in the stock market. And then I found spirituality at 15. It totally changed my life. Where were you living? I was living in Los Angeles at the time. I went to UCLA. I graduated when I was - 15? Well, I went to UCLA when I was 18. I graduated at 19 just because I just had a belief system that I wanted to blaze through college because I wanted to do spiritual work full-time. I joined a spiritual organization just teaching all around the world. I wanted to do that. So I graduated.
9:26Did you have a lot of AP classes in high school? I did all of it. High school, summer. So by my first year, I already had a year under my belt. And then I just put all the credits on to like, that's all I did at school. Just I wanted to graduate. I wanted to get my diploma and I wanted to move forward. I didn't want to drop out. And so, and then after that, I devoted 24 seven my time to teaching and coaching people all around the world. And I did it for no pay. So I did it all for charity for the first nine years. And here's what's interesting. In the very beginning, in the first four years here in Los Angeles, a lot of the people that I was guiding and coaching were wealthy individuals or there were celebrities.
10:02It was a lot of Hollywood. And at the time, you know, go to their homes and they would learn spirituality and everybody needs spirituality. This was in 2005. And you're like 1920 at the time? From the age of 20 to 24, which is interesting because I was young. I didn't have that much experience. But what was powerful was, and this is a whole other concept that I've learned, which is when I learned to remove myself from the equation and not teach from a place of experience, but teach from a place of really feeling people. And, you know, the endless creator has infinite wisdom and knows all the souls of this universe.
10:38is if we learn how to be a channel, we can connect to what people need and say things that touch their soul, regardless of how old we are, what our experience is. So we all have this gift, as you know. I mean, we were talking backstage and the things you were sharing with me were so spiritually aligned with everything that I've ever learned. And so I did have fear of like, what are these people gonna think? Like, are they gonna learn anything from me? And then my mentor said, you have to not teach from your brain. You have to teach from your soul and the energy will flow through and they will feel it.
11:07And that's what happened. But in that time that I was mentoring wealthy people, I realized, and this was a subconscious thing that I ended up taking upon myself, that the wealthier they were, the more dysfunctional their families were. Really? That was a belief system I started to cultivate. And you were like, I don't want to become wealthy because then I'll have a dysfunctional family. Well, I didn't know that until I got married when I was 29 and we were in debt and we were broke and I was spending years trying to make money and nothing was working. And I actually became a victim about it. I'm like, I'm helping thousands of people around the world.
11:40I'm helping them become wealthy. I'm helping them break through to all their hopes and dreams. And I have nothing to show for it. And I remember walking down New York City. I was living there at the time. And I said, I was kind of a victim. I'm like, I was talking to the universe. I'm like, why can't I get my break? And then I realized, why am I screaming at God? This energy called God or the creator is endless, infinite, and wants to give me everything. I need to change my vessel. So then I had to look inside myself and find where the sabotaging belief system was. And what I found was wealth equals dysfunction.
12:17Wealth equals kids who go to drugs. Wealth equals kids who want to commit suicide. Wealth creates people who take advantage of you. Because this is what I learned teaching Hollywood and teaching people in Beverly Hills. Because they were saying, this is what's happening in my life. And everyone's trying to take money from me. And people only call me when they need money. and no one's appreciative when I give them money and it's never enough or whatever it might be. Exactly, exactly. More problem. My kids, I keep spending money on them and they're not grateful or whatever. Oh my God, I can't tell you how many calls I got.
12:45My kid is in drugs. He doesn't want to leave his room. He's suicidal. I'm like, you are a type A person that doesn't make anything happen. You would think that your children will feel that vibration and want to be like you, be with you. But what I was realizing was it was the opposite. Now, this limited belief system was causing me to subconsciously push wealth away. Once I realized that, I started to walk the streets of New York and just say the mantra, which would reverse that belief system, which is the creator wants me to have everything. The creator wants me to have wealth and beautiful children and a healthy lifestyle.
13:19And all of it's possible. There is no limitation. Because the creator is infinite. We're meant to become like the creator. That's our spiritual birthright. So I'm the one that's limiting this energy from coming in. You were blocking it. I was blocking it. So it was an awareness, it sounds like. Okay, I'm aware that I'm creating this block. I'm saying these things. My vessel is limited. I'm only 100 watts as opposed to 1 ,000 watts or a million watts of energy right now based on my belief system. So let me shift the belief system within me by being aware. Let me start reinforcing it with some type of mantra.
13:56Maybe I don't believe it right away, but I'm going to start to believe it by reminding myself this is possible. How does someone start to believe something is possible when they've never created it for themselves? That's a beautiful question. How does somebody believe something is possible when they haven't created it for themselves? It's possible for me to make a million dollars or possible for me to become financially free when I've never created it and I've always been broke. There's two ways to do that. Number one, people think that it's very difficult to get there and it's actually much easier.
14:26Your body and your mind and your soul are very compliant. If you say something over and over again, and it's so simple, I don't want to overcomplicate spirituality. If you say something, a mantra over and over again, even if you're faking it in the beginning, your body, your mind, and your soul will comply with that vibration. And then you will do actions that will be closer to that vibration and they will reinforce each other. So what I do literally every day is I just ask myself, what is the highest vibration I need to get to? I see the delta of where I'm at now and where I need to get to. and I just keep hitting that point over and over and over again, incessantly, until all of me complies with it.
15:04And it happens every time. How do you hit that point when you're feeling depressed or depleted or down? That brings me to the second thing. Every single week, I try to find people who have already achieved what I'm trying to achieve and spend time with them, add value to them, and serve them. Because Kabbalah explains there's a universal law. If you add value to someone or serve them in a way that makes their life better, you draw from them their positive qualities, traits, and vibration. So there's something that I want from Lewis, meaning what do I want? All I want from you is the consciousness you've already created.
15:41I want the vibration you've already achieved in your life. I want the real wisdom. because wisdom and consciousness is the one thing I can take from you that doesn't take away from you but adds to you. It doesn't ask of me. It adds to me. It does because if I become one more person that learns from you, the universe then replenishes you with even more wisdom and energy. So as you grow your audience, your wisdom increases because your audience craves more through you. And so the creator bestows upon you much more wisdom and energy. And that's the value of growing your audience. And I'll tell people on social media, people are growing their audience because they think, well, that's how I monetize.
16:18Or that's how I become famous. Then the ego gets in. The only intention you should have for growing your audience is you now have all these mini vessels which are craving your wisdom. So what happens is it forces the creator to give you more wisdom and you become a greater channel. And that should be our intention for growing our audience. Yeah, how do I serve my community in a deeper way? Correct. It's all about service. It's all about the customer, all about service. And when you have that mindset, everything opens up and grows. Yeah, of course. What has been the thing that has blocked you in the last year the most?
16:54This is something you've been practicing for 20 plus years, 25 years roughly, these spiritual laws. But what's the thing that's still hard for you to break through or sometimes you forget and you have to be reminded with a painful lesson? That's a great question. One of the things I've learned is it doesn't matter how long you've been spiritual or you've been working on something or what your past experience has been. Every test you go through is sent to you by the universe that is exactly on your level. The challenge, your opponent is exactly equal to where you're at in order to get you to your next level.
17:36and the only reason the next level isn't comfortable is because it's not your current level it's a level that you're not familiar with so of course you don't see it of course it's illogical of course it's dark and so what i realized in this year this has been probably one of most my most transformational years is that i am such a perfectionist sure maybe you can relate you look perfect man you got perfect hair you got perfect outfit Everybody's like, put together, man. You look good. I am such a perfectionist that everything I do, I've always felt has to be the best. And this was the year I realized that part of why I'm trying to always be the best is I don't want to let other people down.
18:26I have to kind of give off this persona because I'm representing spirituality and I don't want to make spirituality look bad. So I have to have everything put together. Plus, you've got a big business. You want to make sure your employees, your team, your investors, whatever it might be, customers feel like you're credible as well. Correct. Correct. You're a sloppy human being walking around. Correct. I can't be sloppy externally or internally. But what I realized was that what that was causing was a lot of guilt and shame every time I fell short of the mark I needed to be at or the expectations I put on myself.
19:01And then what was happening was the guilt and the shame was creating much more negativity than all the things I was trying to perfect. So guilt and shame lowers your vibration more than any other mistake you make. People make mistakes like, I don't know, let's say you're in a relationship and you say something to your spouse or to your girlfriend or boyfriend that hurts them or upsets them and you feel bad about it. That was one moment in time where you created a little negative energy. But the guilt and shame that we carry after making a mistake is a million times the negative energy because it's constant.
19:35Every second you hold on to guilt and shame is another moment you're injecting negative energy. So the test isn't the mistake you make. It's the guilt and shame you have afterwards. So how do you remedy that? And this was my biggest lesson. And it was taking the pressure off of myself of trying to appear as someone that's perfect and spiritual and allowing myself just to be myself everywhere I went. And I can't tell you how freeing that was, but at the same time, it created so much instability in other people because everyone's like, wait a minute, this was the David we knew. And now what's this?
20:12I said, no, this is today a little bit more of the real me. and now I'm actually building a new foundation in my life that's much more authentic to who I am how so there are people whose approval I wanted so badly and I would I knew I know I mean and look I I I connected with your energy and I feel like we we share so many similar qualities I know exactly what somebody needs to hear to feel comfortable sure I know what what buttons to stay away from I know how to talk to them in a way that can just make them feel really good and And I learned that many times I'm killing myself or sacrificing myself or I'm being inauthentic to just make them feel comfortable.
20:52So now I'm just learning to be me and still be a giver, but to be in the way that maybe makes them uncomfortable in the moment. But I'm being true to myself. And these examples have been happening more and more. It happens with my parents. It happens with my friends. It happens with business partners and colleagues. I'm just learning to just show up as me versus who I think they want me to be. It's beautiful. What do you think people are getting wrong about manifestation today? What are people getting wrong about manifestation today? I think there's a prevailing belief system that we need to suffer to be successful.
21:35And that's incorrect. I think there's so much grind culture that's being thrown out there. And by the way, you do have to work hard and you do have to work consistently. But 99 % of it is your belief system about what it takes to manifest. If you believe you must suffer to be successful, then that is the destiny you are creating. You will be successful, but you will only do it after you suffer. Elon Musk has the same hours in the day as we do. He thinks it's easy to colonize Mars. He thinks it's as easy to colonize Mars as we do, you know, maybe preparing a cup of coffee. Sure. Because he thinks it's easy to colonize Mars, that consciousness creates a vessel that draws in the right engineers, that draws in the right ideas, that draws in the right lawmakers to change the laws to satisfy him.
22:26Of course, there are challenges, but he's loving even the challenges to an extent where it all seems easy. If I think something is hard or impossible, then I literally call in the entire universe to create a movie for me that makes it hard and impossible. There are people who every relationship they're in is a drama. It's difficult. It's hard. Every city I go to, I ask them, is dating hard in this city? They all say yes. They say, I say, which city is the hardest? They say, oh, my God, I'm in New York. It's so hard to date here. I'm sure it's easier in Los Angeles. People in Los Angeles say it's impossible to date here.
23:03I'm sure it's easier in New York. Everyone always says it's harder wherever they're at. Why is that? Because they haven't been successful yet in their own city. They haven't been successful in their own city. And if I say it's hard to date, then I don't have, it doesn't reflect poorly upon me the fact that I'm single. So I will tell everybody this narrative it's hard to date so that they don't judge me and and I don't judge myself, then I can't find a man or a woman. It's not me. It's everyone else. Everyone else. It's the city. It's the energy here. Everyone in LA is so superficial. But the truth is, even if everyone in LA was superficial, if you earned your soulmate, that one person would appear right at your door.
23:49Think about it. There are serial killers in prison who are married. Crazy. They found their soulmate. If someone in a maximum security prison who has a reputation of a serial killer can find their soulmate, I'm sure you can too in Los Angeles. Yeah. Yeah. With millions of men or women here. Exactly. It's funny. You just got to know where to go. You just got to try new things and you got to change. You got to transform on the inside out. Exactly what you just said. When your consciousness and belief systems and energy is in the right place, then you will be guided. Your legs will start moving in the right direction.
24:23Your profile on a dating app algorithmically will change. People will feel your energy. People will find your profile at the right time and feel called to match with you. All of that comes from your vibration. I talk about products on a shelf, right? So one of the things that we talk about in our company is that the energy of the founders, so Maruth and I, our consciousness, down to the executives, down to the directors, to the managers and to the associates. All of us, our energy needs to be of such a high vibration, of an unlimited mindset in order for energy to flow from the creator through us to the product.
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25:02And then people feel that product on the shelf and they don't know why they like it. They just say it's good branding, right? But they feel something in the bottle. And then that's what they should feel when they consume it, when they take it, and then the energy shifts. And here's the thing in your company, if you have one person who's toxic or you have one person who has a limited mindset, they are clogging the pipes of energy flowing down to the product level. So one of the things that I do, I have very little business experience, but from the spiritual side, I'm always checking in with the employees.
25:34Where's their mindset at? I once went to my head of sales and I said, hey, in my walk this morning, so every morning I walk and I talk out loud to the universe in the form of prayer. Prayer is just a technology to expand your vessel. People think prayer is something you do to bribe God to make you more comfortable, but there's no bribing God. God is a perfect force. Prayer is a technology to transform our vessel, to increase the frequency, to allow more energy. So every morning I'll talk out loud to the universe. And what's the best way to pray for miracles or abundance in our life? Any way that makes you comfortable.
26:09The way I do it is I walk and I talk out loud in the morning before everyone's awake. Some people like to be still. Some people like to do it in their head. I like to talk out loud. Something very powerful about it. In the first five minutes of prayer, all these negative forces will attack you to try to distract you not to do it. And you'll think it's not working. You'll want to get to your phone and you'll want to quit. I always say you got to go past the first five minutes and then you break through kind of a miracle zone. And then when you talk out loud to the universe, your words become a vessel for energy to come in.
26:40And so ideas, my best ideas, best product ideas have come on these walks. And I will talk out loud and these ideas will come. And I had an idea and a vision for a revenue number for my head of sales. I went to him. This guy's got 40 years experience. I said, hey, I think we can get whatever it was, 100 products into Whole Foods. This was right when we first got into Whole Foods. 100 SKUs? 100 SKUs. Holy cow. We had 100. I said, I think we can get all 100. Today we have about 300, but I said we can get all 100 into Whole Foods. And he looked at me and he started laughing. He's like, you know, 40 years experience.
27:12I said, we need to aim for two this year to get into Whole Foods. And that's how it works. And we can get to four next year or whatever. And I said - That's a limiting belief though. Based on statistics and history, which is what most people use to form their belief systems. Most people aren't going to Mars also based on history. Exactly. The people who are changing this world are people who are not looking at history as a way to forge their belief systems. They're looking at something bigger, more divine, which is endless. And they're drawing these belief systems from a higher place. So I said, look, you have the experience.
27:43I don't. But as a founder, in the last eight years, we've been doing this together. As a founder, I do get ideas. And thankfully, we do control this company. So I want you to really be open to this idea. And we had this back and forth. So no, it's impossible. I said, listen, I want you just to be open to it. He's like, okay, we'll be open to it. something happened on a call at Whole Foods and they said like one of their brands wasn't doing well, manufacturing started to like malfunction and like a whole shelf became open. Lo and behold, that year, I think we got 75 products. Wow. Never happened before in the history of Whole Foods.
28:19We shot up to be like one of their number one brands. And I think today we're at almost like 120 or 130, like somewhere up there. And this all happened in one year. And every year I go back to the team And I say, guys, and this happens in every department. Remember what we thought could happen. Remember what we saw visually. And if we saw it and we feel it, it means it exists. And we have to be open to it. At the very minimum, I need you to be open to it. Yeah, I love the question I like when I present this to someone is, in a world of possibilities, if this was possible, what would need to happen?
28:54Beautiful. In a world of possibilities, but it was possible for us to get 100 SKUs in Whole Foods, what would need to happen? You just opened up their mind to bypass their old limited belief system. That's a great way of framing it. Yeah, yeah. I love that. I love that. Wow. So you got 75 SKUs in in one year when you had like a couple before then or something, right? Yep. Yep. And you also said that something you said earlier, you said you made a million dollars at 15. Is that right? Yeah. But then you were kind of broke for 15 years? So I made all this money in the stock market early on because I had a lot of desire, a lot of energy.
29:28I just didn't know where to put it. And so I started to trade and it started to do really well. But that's when my life started to get out of control as a teenager. And I became a gambler. I started to... Really? Oh, yeah. I started playing poker eight hours a day. Oh, man. I did that back in 10 years too. In college, just like poker till 4 a.m. Till 4 a.m. Sometimes I'd go into a casino on like a Sunday and come out on a Tuesday. Oh, man. Even in sea daylight. I was like playing like$15 hands with my college buddies, not casino life, but yeah. I mean, it's never enough. So casino life was the next thing, right?
30:01And so I was doing that and I realized, why am I like, I just kept feeling more and more drained, right? You got the highs and then you feel low. And once I started to learn Kabbalah, I started to realize that the highs and the lows were, I was drawing energy, but I didn't create the vessel to hold this energy. Gambling, drugs, alcohol, sex, all of these things draw energy. You're drawing God. You're drawing the universal force of creation. The reason why it ends up causing chaos is there's no vessel to hold this energy. So you short circuit. And what does a short circuit look like? There's a flash of light and then there's darkness.
30:41But the flash is very bright. That flash is very addictive. So most people, they draw energy, but there's no vessel to hold it, which we can explain what that means to create a vessel. There's no vessel to hold it. They feel this flash, and then there's darkness. There's emptiness. There's addiction. Because they may not know spiritual laws, they'll go right back to more flashes to feed the addiction. So it sounds like there's almost a three-step process is what I'm seeing. Number one, learn to draw the energy you want to you. Number two, create the vessel within you so that you can hold it. And I'm assuming number three is where to bring that energy, how to be of service with that energy, and then just continue to draw, have a container big enough to hold it, and then pour it out into others.
31:37Is that a... That's a beautiful way of putting it. So how would we first draw energy to us of the things we want to manifest more? The way we draw energy to us is first to be clear about your belief system of what you deserve to receive and what you're meant to receive. How do you get clear on what you deserve and are meant to receive? Whatever your desires are, it means you are meant to receive them at some point. Don't question that. So if you actually had to write down all your desires, these desires, the creator gave you these desires, so you go out and manifest them. What's the difference between a desire and a temptation?
32:19Because you could be like, I'm just like crazy drugs, and I don't know, just like stuff that's not a spiritual energy, but what if it's the desire? I feel like it's a desire I'm supposed to go drink all night and gamble all night and just whatever. Correct. So this is why I tell people, but I say all of these things that are given to us, drinking, gambling, drugs, sex, these are all, for example, let's say if you go to Costco, Costco has samples. And you eat a sample, and you like the sample, but if you like the sample, you need to go buy the full product. Nobody goes to Costco all day long and they just eat samples.
32:56You don't just sit by the sample station all day long to fill your belly with the samples that they give you. Well, if you're poor. I've done that without drugs. Sorry, I got the one. There are people who just need samples all the time. So when a person does a drug, what do they feel like? They feel like God. Feel this euphoria. This is a sample to eventually inspire you to buy the full product. The full product is to realize you can feel that if you unlock the power of your soul. Without the drug. Without the drug. Most people think the drug is the power to unlock more. And so they need to keep doing the plant medicine or the drugs that create the awakening, the awareness to then feel, heal, see, do things differently.
33:42As opposed to creating from within, right? Because no one's told them that they have the power inside of them that is nuclear. You have this power inside of you that is millions of times greater than any drug you're taking. But we've been told that we need to keep taking the drug to feel that way. But anyone that I've talked to who's done the plant medicines, they're like, no, nothing is greater than this. This unlocks more than anything I could ever do on my own. And it's true. It has unlocked more than they've ever experienced. So I don't ever tell people, don't do this plant, don't do this drug.
34:16When people tell me, I love sex. I'm having sex with everybody. Is there a problem with that? I said, that's fine. You can have sex with everybody you want. You can have all the drugs you want. I have, but I do want you to know that you have something greater inside of you that will give you even more pleasure and more euphoria, if you're open to it, we can talk. And also, if you're doing the drugs or the alcohol or the sex or the addiction, things that create this energy feeling, what does that do to your vessel? See, that's the thing. You actually begin to shrink the vessel. How do we know? Because every time you take the drug, it's never as potent the next time.
34:51You need more. You need more frequently. You need it more frequently. So you actually begin to shrink your capacity until you experience death. And then there's some kind of death or painful scenario that breaks your vessel open again, and then you start that process over. The only way to really expand your vessel spiritually is a concept, there's a spiritual law that is certainty beyond logic. You have to be put in a dark situation, a difficult situation, where you do not see any logical way of getting out of it, and then choose to have certainty that you can. Even if you have to fake that certainty, but you have certainty beyond your logical mind, this breaks open the vessel and allows the next level of your soul to come in to hold this energy.
35:39Yeah, and what you said about, you've said this about certainty. Certainty is the way to guarantee a positive outcome. As long as you have complete certainty beyond logic that everything is good and will be good, you are guaranteed to have the outcome be good. Absolutely. But how do we get to a place of certainty if I'm in such a dark place of pain physically, emotionally, relationally, financially, and nothing is working out for me, I've been suffering for years, how do I even have the energy to believe in certainty beyond my current state of being? Well, does it just have to be more and more pain until you're just like, you have a breakthrough?
36:20Like pain is not enough. It has to be extreme. Pain is the circuit breaker. So pain is the final thing that the universe sends you to get you back on track. But a lot of people live in like low negative pain. It's not enough pain, I feel like sometimes. It's probably not. They're drip feeding. They're getting drip fed pain. They're just low levels of suffering. Yeah. So what happens is the minute you actually have a desire to be successful in your life, you speed up the process. And what happens is then pain comes really quickly to break you open to get you there. So it always starts with a desire.
36:51If a person has no desire to receive anything in their life, they also will never go through any pain and they will always stay at that low level vibration of kind of nothing really happening. But the moment you say, hey, Liz, I'm ready to get married. I'm ready to have a child. I'm ready to find my passion. I'm ready to heal. I'm ready to be better. Then all of a sudden, all of these challenges come to awaken and show you the negativity that your soul came to the world with that's blocking your vessel. And that's a good thing. So our job here is to show people you're in pain. That's a good thing.
37:23You see your garbage. That's a good thing. You're more angry than ever before. It's a great thing. People are speaking badly about you. This is a good sign. All of this is a good sign to show that your vessel is now cleaning itself out. Cleansing. You have to see your negativity in order to cleanse it. Everyone sometimes feels like, I'm at my lowest point. I can't, everything is going wrong. I'm seeing all my garbage. I feel like I'm not good enough. And I tell people, phenomenal. Now we are at the stage where we can start to build our vessel because you can see your negativity. And the moment you see the negativity and you embrace it, you say, I love my negativity, it goes away.
38:01Because light overcomes darkness. If you see darkness, just turn on the light. How do I turn on the light? Act like the creator. What does that mean? What does the creator act like? The creator is a giving force. The creator is a force of certainty. The creator is a force of consistency. The creator is a force of love. Well, what does that mean? Just start to do all of those things in small ways. Start to just say you have certainty. Call your mom and tell her you're a lover. Look at people in the street, give them a smile. It's all the little things we talk about. It sounds cliche, but if you act like the creator, you turn on the light, the darkness goes away.
38:36Well, people say, well, how do I know that's going to happen? I don't know where the darkness goes. I just know when you act like the creator, that vibration removes the darkness. It leaves. Yeah, it's really hard when you're in a suffering state to see beyond yourself. But the easiest way to get out of self and to get out of suffering is to get out of self by saying, how do I serve others? And how do I serve one person when I see them? How do I see someone on the street, like you said, and smile at them when they walk by and just try to create an exchange of joy and love? Can I spark light in them walking past me?
39:08Can I smile and say, hey, how's your day? And kind of smile and walk by. and if you can spark that joy like 20, 50, 100 times a day, you become light. You become love. You become, your vessel expands. And then you're able to draw in more of that love and light. That's right. But the best way to get out of yourself is to pour into someone else. That is correct. And the creator will always show you one pathway by which to do that. I always ask people, is there one thing that comes to mind that you could do that would embody the light of the creator? Always, they said, yeah. And I said, that's a message for you.
39:43You just have to turn on that little pilot light, and the universe will keep giving you more and more opportunities. Right. So the first step is learning how to draw energy. But you're saying we need to be clear on what you deserve and what you desire. How does someone learn to be clear that they are deserving and worthy of love, abundance, a beautiful relationship, when all they've witnessed growing up were their parents creating in an environment or school creating an environment or friends creating an environment that reinforced they were not worthy or deserving of love or beautiful things?
40:22That's a great question. So one of the things we learned in Kabbalah is that the way you were raised and the way people treated you did not create the fears and wounds you have, but rather your soul came to this lifetime with spiritual baggage, we call this baggage tikkun, that literally means the correction of the soul. You came with this baggage. So let's say you came to this world with the fear of abandonment. Then your soul will choose to come down to parents that are abandoning you, and are avoided, that are going to get divorced. Actually, the soul sees this and says, these parents are actually perfect for me.
41:01Not that they're creating the wound, but they're now bringing up to the surface the very thing that you need to see to transform, to align yourself with the vibration of the creator and receive all the miracles in your life. Why can't it just be easy? Why can't we just have peace and harmony as children growing up? It's so interesting you say that. Why can't it just be easy? The creator wants to give us everything. From the creator's point of view, it's like a parent to a child. We want to give our children everything. We don't want them to suffer at all. The creator wants to give you everything.
41:32But here's what's interesting. The souls have a celestial contract with the creator. The souls basically said, if you give me everything, I'm going to feel shame. I'm guilty. I'm going to feel guilty. And we learned this. Because everyone else is suffering. Everyone else is suffering. I have it easy. Yeah, I feel good. I have it good. But what's the greatest shame that we all feel when we don't feel that we are the creator of something? These children who are getting wealth handed to them by their parents become the most depressed children. They feel shame because the parents took away their free will to become a creator, their free will to become like God.
42:10So the soul said, I want 100 % fulfillment. The only way I can have 100 % fulfillment creator is if I become like you. So put me in a world of darkness. Make sure I'm not born with my soulmate. Make sure I don't know what my purpose is. Make sure I have people and challenges that I must go through. and then I choose in the darkness, in the illogical situations, in the pain to become like you. And then all the miracles come. We asked for it. The creator wants to give us everything. The creator is not, he had no problem. We are the ones that asked. It's like the 19 year old told his dad, take your credit card back.
42:50I'm not gonna go to where you went to school. I don't want any favors from you or the company. I wanna go build my own. and that is much more fulfilling than just taking everything from your parents. You know what's interesting? You're saying that. My dad got into a pretty bad car accident when I was 21 and he was in a coma for three months in New Zealand. And I was living in Columbus, Ohio at the time playing football. And the night, it was at night when I got the phone call that he was in the hospital and we didn't know if he was going to live or die. And he was in a coma. and I've got it's like 10 o 'clock 20 years ago 20 years ago shoot 20 years ago last month this happened and I remember I got a phone call from my sister one of my older sisters at night and right away when she called I knew I said what happened to dad I just knew something happened and two weeks before I had a feeling something was going to happen.
43:52His energy was very different. We were at like a summer camp thing or like a weekend like YMCA family camp thing. And his energy was very weird. He was sitting on a couch by himself when all the family was together and people were playing games and having fun. Sitting on the couch, I went to sit by him and I said, is everything okay? He just had a weird energy about him. Two weeks before. Two weeks before. It was like a week and a half or two weeks before, but within two weeks before. And he's sitting there next thing on the couch. And it's just the weirdest interaction I've ever had with him.
44:26And he was going on a trip to go with his, he and my parents had gotten divorced four or five years prior to that. He was in a new relationship. They weren't married, but they were together. And he was excited to go on this trip to New Zealand. He'd always wanted to go. And this was kind of the only time he could go. I was playing football as a senior, he never missed a football game. Like, he came all the time. He was an amazing supportive dad in that way. He struggled in other ways, but he was going to miss a game. And then I also had a bye week. So he was going to miss like two weeks, but one of the weeks I didn't have a game.
45:00I was like, why are you leaving? It's my senior year. We're playing like a massive team. You know, why would you leave? And he's like, this is the only time. But he said something I'll never forget. He said, I'm going to go on a spiritual journey. Wow. I got chills thinking about it. He said, I'm going to go on a spiritual journey. I got chills. And he was like, I'm excited to dive deeper into the Bible and my practice. And he was raised in Christian science, so he was very into healing without medication. He didn't take any medication. He believed in prayer to heal. He was like, I'm going to go on a spiritual journey.
45:34And two weeks later, he was gone, and then he had this accident, a car accident. I mean, I think it was on purpose. But he passed away two and a half years ago after 17 years of suffering. He woke up. He woke up. He was never the same. It was like he was physically here but emotionally gone. And every time I saw him, it was, what's your name again? What? Oh, Louis, that's right. Where did you go to school? Oh, my God. Didn't you used to play sports? This is the man that came to every game, you know, coached me, practiced with me, all these things. It was the same conversation every time I saw him for 17 years.
46:17Talk about suffering. He suffered immensely. My siblings suffered because we lost our dad emotionally, spiritually, physically was there, but his character and his energy was gone. And it was really sad. But I remember thinking there was, after about four years, I got to a place of acceptance. I was angry. I was mad. I was sad. I was, you know, I was just, I miss my dad. He was there, but he wasn't there. At the same time, he always said, hey, go live your dreams. And if you need a job, like, you can come take over, like, my insurance business, right? But I never wanted to do that. And I didn't want to see you.
46:58It would have been easy. Yeah, but I never would have been fulfilled. And it wasn't like it was a big business. It was like a million-dollar business. It wasn't like some massive thing. But he was like starting to make money 30 years in, like working hard every day. But he was like, you can kind of like, I'll train you. And then after 10 years, you can take it over. Like whatever, right? His dream. Wasn't my dream. But his accident was everything I needed to step into the man that I always wanted to be. Wow. And I don't think I could have been this man without that accident. Now, I don't want to go through an accident later in life for my kids.
47:32That's not what I want. But I knew that I didn't have the courage or the tools to create my own business or be entrepreneurial or go learn public speaking or just to learn these things because he was always kind of there as a backup. Wow. And I don't think I would have learned these things. Wow. You knew you had a safety net. Yeah. I just don't think I would have had the courage. It was like the universe or God took it away and forced me to learn all these tools. and force me to go into all my fears and all my doubts. And again, I wish it didn't happen. I wish my dad was still alive. I wish he didn't have to suffer for 17 years.
48:12I wish we didn't have to suffer for 17 years with him being there, but not really able to emotionally mentor us or support us. And at the same time, I've learned to accept it and say, how can I make the most of this pain and suffering? And what is it teaching me? What is it telling me to lean into? and whether that's the right meaning or not, that's the meaning that's giving me peace, and I don't know if that was designed or if it was an accident, but I feel like I wouldn't have been on a path of how can I serve and impact as many lives as possible without my dad going through that pain and that accident, and that's the meaning that I give it at least.
48:54Wow. So, again. You said something. This was so powerful. You said something. You said two weeks before you felt something. it's like your soul knew that there was a celestial contract that was about to be fulfilled it was crazy your soul had chosen your father knowing this was something his soul needed to go through for whatever reason right we don't know his entire soul's yeah yeah some type of cleansing some type of cleansing or he had maybe finished this correction in this lifetime and often when people go through accidents especially in the coma state there is a clinical death that happens and like a new soul comes in.
49:29Yeah. And almost like a reincarnation had one of the coma. Yeah. Because they're not the same person anymore. It was completely different. Yeah. It sounds like your father had actually completed his soul's correction. And then from a different place supported you finally get to your destiny. I don't think I would have gotten here without it. I mean, I just don't think maybe, I mean, who knows? Maybe I would have, something else would have happened. And I would have said like, I'm going to defy my dad and be like, I'm not going to go after your business. I'm going to prove you wrong. Who knows?
49:57Something else would have happened maybe, but I just don't think I would have learned to care deeply about humanity as much as I do. I don't think I would have cared. My ego was a lot bigger then, and that shattered it in a sense where I was like, oh, life is, I'm not superhuman. It's like I'm not able to do whatever. Look at my dad, who I thought was, he's not either. So it made me think more about serving others versus me, me, me. And it wasn't perfect in my 20s. I mean, I still had ego, but it was just a big wake-up call. That was a defining moment, a huge defining moment. In the last 20 years of stories I've heard, the ones that had the most traumatic and painful stories of sudden death, of trauma, of loss, of bankruptcy, and then they made a decision to create light out of that darkness ended up being the most successful people that I know today.
50:56And here's what's interesting. How they got there, they say that it was not even logical. There was almost another force that took them there because all they had to do was make the decision that I want to be light. That's all we need to do. People always go, well, how do I get there? You don't need to know how to get there. You just need to make that decision. It's the decision you made. And then the rest took shape. Like all of this, It's like miracle after miracle, there's a force that pushes you to get there. But I always tell people, like, the darkest, the darker the period you've been through is the greater the vessel you have.
51:30And it means you're a high soul. It's the potential for the greater vessel. Potential. Because some people, you still have suicide or they do other things that go down the drug route. You know, we see this with celebrities. You have the free will. You have the potential to go towards the light or go towards the dark. And interesting, if you go towards the darkness. And even if a person commits suicide, every time I've given my course every year for the last 20 years, I've given the class on suicide and death and why it happens and what it means for the soul. I've always had at least one person, at least one person, every time come to me and say, I've been thinking about it.
52:04And what you just shared is what actually inspired me not to do it. And what is the lesson? That I just speaking to somebody yesterday about it. They messaged me on Instagram. They say, I don't think there's any reason for me to live anymore. I don't see a purpose. That thing's working out for me. I'm in my late 40s and divorced and I can't find love. I can't find happiness. I think it's time for me to take my life. She literally messaged me this yesterday. And so what I shared with her and what I always share when this feeling comes up for someone, I say, this feeling you have right now to take your life, let's say right now you're 34 years old, two months, on a Tuesday at 10 a.m.
52:46you've had this exact moment in a past life and a life before where you had the choice to either take your life or push through and even though you can't see it you are inches away from a miraculous reality but you're not allowed to see it because of the greatness that's coming and if you do take your life now you will have to come back and experience the exact same feeling at 34 years old, two months, on a Tuesday at 10 a.m. So if you want to repeat this all over again, that is your free will. However, you must know that the darkness you feel is the vessel, and it is by design that you will have something great to achieve, but you need to push through.
53:31Yeah, I mean, some people may not believe that they're going to come back and live the same experience or the same life or a similar life where they have to make that choice again. But if you're able to present that as like, hey, I believe that's going to happen. And even if it's still almost a little fear in them, like whether they, it's like, hey, you may not believe this, but I believe that you're going to have to come back and repeat this lesson. Do you want to do it again? And it's going to be more painful. Correct. And as we said before, they feel something. Even if they, I've had people who don't believe in reincarnation.
54:00They're like, I don't believe in reincarnation, but. But if there's a chance, there's a chance. Do I want to come back and do this? The slightest chance of this might happen. I'm not going to do it again. But what I've learned, and I felt this when I came to your event, people feel something. When you speak to them, they feel it. Because at that moment, the same way you got a premonition about your father, you collapsed time, space, and motion. You saw something in two weeks as if it was happening now. And science says time is an illusion, right? So the future is happening now. The past is happening now.
54:34It's only our limited perception that time is happening. And when you talk to someone about their past life or something that's happened before, They will feel something because it's happening at that moment. Like time is an illusion. And you felt it. You felt it about your father. It's not logical. Someone was like, Lewis, what are you talking about? You saw the future. How could you see that? It is because the future is happening right now. And obviously the greatest speakers are talking about that. And this is why investing our consciousness in the now both cleanses the past. And any negativity you've done in the past, you can cleanse all of it just by deciding to be a different person today.
55:10And you also forge this incredible future because you're creating it at this very moment with your consciousness. The vessel part is interesting to me. To go back to those that choose to do drugs, alcohol, get into addictive modes, and thinking that's creating their vessel to be more powerful. What is the best way to set up our vessel, meaning our mind, our body, our spirit, to allow for abundance? and what are the things that are blocking our vessel from creating it where we think it's actually helping it. All right, so we talked about examining your limited belief system. So you can literally write down, what do you believe about love?
55:49What do you believe about prosperity? What do you believe? And just write stuff down. As you write stuff down, you will see where the limitations are. And you can actually show that to someone who has achieved something you haven't and ask them, what do you believe about this? I've sat with people who are wildly more successful than I am. And I say, here's how I'm running my business. Here's how I'm doing everything. And they'll look at me and they'll be like, they'll literally make me feel like I'm failing in every way. Like, wait, forget all that. What about this? Why can't you get here? It's so easy.
56:19And I'm like, you're right. You're right. It is easy, isn't it? I'm like, I just want to grow 20 % a year. They're like, well, why don't you want to grow 2000 % a year? And they're like, I'm like, I guess you're right. So spending time with people who don't have those limited beliefs, I went on a walk with someone who's a great father. He has four kids. He's a phenomenal dad. He's a great businessman too. I didn't ask him one business question. I said, tell me what you do that makes you a great father. Give you a top four tips about being a great dad. And he told me things that changed my life.
56:49One thing he told me, until today, I think about it every day when I'm with my kids. He says, instead of trying to get the kids to do what you love to do, Get on the floor, sit with them, and become passionate about what they love to do. You will build this bond and this trust with them that will make them love you and then come to do whatever you want to do later on in life. But we're always trying to make our kids become more like us and what's comfortable for us and what we believe is right. Sit with them and build the trust. That was something I just got on a walk. So we talked about the limited beliefs.
57:29The other thing is certainty. Everything is good. Everything is good. Even if it's bad, even if it's bad, it's good. If you start believing that, start believing everything is good, won't you start to manifest more of the things that are bad if you believe it's good? If you're like, oh, this person is cheating on me. This person is stealing from me. This person is saying bad things about me behind my back. This is all good. I want more of this. Don't you not want more of that? Such a great question. The only, when you choose to say something is good, it comes from your choice. You transform darkness to light.
58:01When you are passively just driving and a negative thought comes to you from the outside and you think about it and you entertain it, that's when you manifest a negative reality. When you say, for example, one day I remember my CFO called me and said, I got bad news. I said, what is it? He said, we just fell for wire fraud. Somebody just stole$1.1 million. No, come on. And I said, you fell means someone on your team paid it? someone basically changed the accounting wiring information. And we wired what was supposed to go to a manufacturer to, I believe, someone offshore somewhere. Oh, man. And we have protocols in place.
58:44And somehow we fell through. It fell through. So I hear this on the call. And by the way, this is right after I had that week said, I can't wait for my company to go to the next level. Like, this is like, I set goals higher and higher in my prayers and meditations. I'm like, this is where we can get it to. I get this phone call. I say to them, I say, okay, there's a lot I wanted to say. I wanted to be upset. I wanted to say who did this. I can't believe the system's broke. Like, did you call the FBI? Let's call the way. All these things. I said, all right, give me one second. I'm going to call you back.
59:18I put it down. And I was in my house in the downstairs part of the house. And I started to walk around and say, thank you. I said, this is amazing. I kept saying, thank you, creator. Every part of me was angry and upset and asking questions. But I said, this came from the creator. Therefore, it must be good. I don't know how it's going to be good. But if everything comes from a good source, it means the seed level of it's good. The reason it appears dark to me is this is my free will, my test to become like God. I asked for this before my soul came to this world. So I said, this is good. I love this.
59:51I started to dance around the room for 10 minutes like a crazy person. So I love it. I love wire fraud. I love that. lost a million dollars. This is the best thing that could happen. I called Meredith. I said, I have great news. She's like, what is it? She said, I just said, we've just fell for wire fraud. She's like, what? I said, yeah, it's amazing. I'll call you back with all the details. We just lost 1.1 million dollars. And I hang up the phone. I get so excited. I get my body to get so excited about it to the point that I realized it's all energy. What is money? It's all energy. And if I'm meant to have it, I will have it.
1:00:22If I'm not meant to have it, I won't. But at least my free will is my consciousness of certainty. And I got so excited about it. And then I called them back and I said, okay, make sure you call the FBI. Make sure you call the lawyer. Make sure you follow the protocols. Make sure you create a process that this never happens again. Let me know what happens. Same thing I would have said. With more anger. With more anger for your position. But the difference was now I elevated my consciousness. I literally got a new soul that can hold a thousand, 10 ,000 watts of energy. And now the company is going to benefit from this new soul and draw in more wealth in the future.
1:00:57How? I don't know. And it's not my business. Lo and behold, two, three months later, people ask, did you get the money back? We didn't get the money back. We lost that money. But two to three months later, the company broke open and a whole new video went viral that resulted in like 10 million of revenue, stuff you cannot create yourself. And then the company went on a whole new trajectory. And that's what I've always learned right before a new level comes. You must be tested with something that is equally going to freak you out, make you sad, make you angry, make you want to blame. And I realized it's all an illusion.
1:01:34The whole thing was just between me and the creator. The company is my energy and Mary Ruth's energy. So if our consciousness is high, this is what she tells me every day. Every day she goes, she has a rebounder. She rebounds every day. And I'm sitting, Mary Ruth. Mary Ruth, yeah. And I'm stretching and she says to me, I'm visualizing now everyone in the company. I'm putting a golden bubble around every employee. She goes to each employee, says their name, says I'm putting a golden bubble, I'm putting a golden bubble around you, I'm putting certainty, I'm injecting certainty to each employee. And like she's sending energy and the vibration to just open up everyone's vessel.
1:02:08It's all vessels. We're all just vessels for energy. And we're complaining and we're this and we're that. Even when we eat poorly and we become sluggish, all of this stuff is just taking our energy, shrinking the vessel. And this is why sometimes when you fire your toxic employees or employees that just don't want to be there or their mind is somewhere else, if their mind is somewhere else, it's because their vessel is somewhere else. And this Netflix talked about this when they fired like a third of their B-level and C-level employees, like revenue shot up 30%. It is so important who is your network of people and what is their consciousness, especially in your company.
1:02:48That's powerful, man. So the vessel is key to get your vessel in shape so that you can hold on to what you're drawing to you. What is meant for you anyway. What is meant for you anyway is hold on to it or be a channel of flowing in and out of you. Because you probably don't want to hold on to everything. You want to be a channel for it to come and go. For it to come and go. And then the third part would be to, what, add value, be of service. What do you really think is once you're able to expand your vessel to receive more, how do you share that? So I'm going to round out that last topic, which is everything is good, meaning you will be tested to be reactive.
1:03:27Reactive means any thought, reactive behavior is any thought, word, or action which comes from lack or fear in order to connect to instant gratification. or expectation or whatever it might be. Whatever it might be. So anything you do from lack or fear is drawing energy temporarily, which you will then lose because of the reactive. So right before your next level, you will be tempted with something that makes you scared or something that brings up your lack. Like right before you meet your soulmate, you'll be tempted by someone who you know is not good for you, but is feeding your neediness and lack in some way.
1:04:00Or you have to say no. You have to say no. Because what you're doing when you're saying yes to this temporary energy is you're clogging the vessel and you're telling the universe that you're trying to expand your vessel for soulmate energy. So you'll be tested by something that by saying no to, that resistance expands who you are. And then that's when the soulmate comes in. So we see this in everything, in all competitions. Everything will first be, you'll be tested to be reactive. And if you push through, then you get the price. Then the second thing, the third thing that we're talking about is the adding value part.
1:04:36Everything that you do must be of the consciousness of I am giving and not taking. What's the number one reason why there's a fear of public speaking? I learned this 20 years ago. My mentor has told me, if you're scared when you get on a stage, it's because you're trying to take from them and not give to them. Said if you went on the stage and said your only job was to tell everybody, everybody here gets$10 ,000. Remember when Oprah went on stage and said, everybody here gets a go. If you go up on stage and say, I ain't here just to tell you all, then I'm personally writing you a check, each of you for$10 ,000.
1:05:10You could get in front of a billion people and have no fear telling them that you want to give them$10 ,000. But if I said, hey, go in front of a billion people and talk about a topic that you like, you're going to be scared. Why? Because you're looking to take something from the audience. You want their approval. You want them to light you. You want to look good. In life, all fear comes from when we're trying to take. when we're actually giving, there's no fear because we're God. We become like God and there's no fear in God. There's no fear in the creator. And that is why every time I'm scared or I'm nervous, I remind myself, I'm looking for something here.
1:05:43I'm looking to take something and I have to then change my consciousness and I'm coming to be a giver. Now, sometimes we don't feel like we're a giver because we didn't really invest in our product. If you don't have a good product and you know you're kind of tricking the audience, you will always feel inauthentic and you'll feel scared yes feel anxious and part of like we were talking about it before the show the more you work on your craft the more you become good at it you know one time i was anthony hopkins came to one of my classes and this is public he came and he shared the story um i sat with him privately and i asked him he actually showed me a room in his house and he said i want to show you this room i said what's what's in this room so anthony hopkins took me to the room and he's like, I want to tell you about this room.
1:06:30Every time I get a script, I sit in this room and I read the script 300 times until it becomes seared in my mind and my soul and it becomes every part of me. And then when I'm filming, I can be a channel. I can be my asset. So what's interesting is he put in the work before so that he could then go and be a giver. If you're overthinking when you're on the stage or you're trying to think about what should I say, what should I not say, it's all about you. You're trying too hard. You're blocking yourself from the infinite. We should never be talking to people from our brain, from our knowledge, from our experience.
1:07:10The only reason he read the script 300 times is so that he could just be done with it and not think about the script anymore and be a force of energy. And that's what we feel from one of the greatest actors of all time. And so, yeah, you got to put in the work. You got to do the practice so that you can show up and be in the zone and be in flow and not overthink and be in your head. You mentioned you made a million dollars at 15, but then you kind of went broke for, I guess. And I lost it all. And you lost it all and you went, I guess. Then I joined a nonprofit and made no money. Financially broke because spiritually rich.
1:07:46Spiritually rich. But it sounds like around 35, you started to make money, right? Some real money. 35, 37, something around that, right? Well, yeah. The company started when I was 30, and the company was doing well, but we were still broke until about 37. 37. Okay. So around 37. Just because a company's successful doesn't mean you are. Right, exactly. So around 37, you start to make money, like a lot of money. It all floods in at one moment, right? Yeah. And why weren't you meant to have more money earlier than 37? And why does it take decades for some people to create the wealth that they really want where they feel financially free?
1:08:31I asked this question to my mentors once. One of my mentors was very wise and spiritual. I said to him, I said, why did I go through 17 years of poverty? literally i remember one time asking mirth what's your biggest fear and she said that we'll come home one day and the locks will be changed because we haven't paid our rent in wow i'm like wow and so he said to me he said you know you're so blessed that the way the creator designed your life some people get successful then they seek out spirituality and they don't have the tools to handle the fame, the wealth, this energy that's rushing in, it just shatters their vessel.
1:09:15And the creator blessed you by giving you the first three quarters of your life to be very difficult, to not have money, to live vicariously through the lives of other people and learn lessons through their life. So many lessons I learned about marriage, about relationships, about building a business. And now that energy does start coming in, you won't take it as seriously. Because the secret to everything in life is when something comes in, if it controls you, you're going to end up losing it. If you depend on something, you must lose it. Anything you depend on in life will eventually leave you in order to teach you how to become your own creator.
1:09:57I remember, and I remember Jodis Benza said this in your last summit. And I had a similar example. I was in the Hamptons once talking to this very wealthy man. I was in his Hamptons home, beautiful, beautiful home. He was a young guy, probably in his early 30s. And I said to him, I said, why are you a beautiful home? I said, you know, he's an executive and founder of one of the biggest companies in the world. It was his first company. I said to him, what would happen if you lost all this? Like you have a wife, you have kids, you have a lot of money. I remember the whole, he had like a can of soda, he opened it up, he took a sip, he's like, have I lost all of it?
1:10:38No, I guess I would just make it all back. And he was so casual about it, he was so nonchalant about it, I realized to him, none of it controlled him. And because it didn't control him, he was a channel of it. Anything that is, we take too personally or so seriously, or we're, eh, we're afraid if we have it, or afraid if we don't, we're thinking about it. It means it's part of our soul's correction. And so we will always have a difficult relationship with it. It will not flow. Once you have certainty that you'll be wealthy no matter what, or you'll be certain that you're loved no matter what, or you are wealth, or you are loved, once you're certain about it, then the universe just gives it to you endlessly.
1:11:18And you never have to think about it. But you probably had certainty for 15 years. Hey, I'm wealthy, but you're not creating wealth. I started to have certainty about my ability to create wealth for other people. You could impact others to unlock their abundance. Oh, my God. I remember my father told me that they were broke until the day I was born and then wealth came. And I always remember that. I said, you know what? I'm the guy that I could, if I'm with you on something, if I'm your friend, if I walk into a room, I know blessings will come to you. But I was not certain that I could do it for myself.
1:11:50Why not? You were learning this from your mentors and teaching these principles, but you weren't applying it to yourself in that way. It's such a good question because early on in my life, I was taught life is all about being a channel for other people. You got to get out of the way. So one of the first things I learned is to delete myself from the equation. Now, that's what I needed to learn in the first part of my life. But what I also learned spiritually is that the point of creation is that the creator wants us to receive. The word Kabbalah means to receive. So if I'm giving all day long and I'm not in the end receiving for the sake of sharing, I'm also going against the laws of creation.
1:12:28And I learned that in the second half of my life, which is, wait a minute, I am not receiving. And that is the biggest short circuit. And it's blocking your abundance. Blocking my abundance and blocking my ability to give to the world. Really? Yeah. Because if I don't have money, I have to depend on other people to buy me stuff. If I do have wealth and status, people are coming to my classes, taking my teachings. I'm talking about building wealth and I don't have money. And I remember talking to the creator once and the same creator. This is making you look bad. I said, stay bro. You look bad because I'm talking about how people can connect with this universal energy.
1:13:09And meanwhile, I can't put food on the table. And I remember it was kind of a joke. It's almost like a funny conversation I had with the creator, but it's actually one that works because if it was all about like me, me, me, you block the energy because you don't have affinity or form with the laws of creation, with the energy of creation. But I told the creator, I said, look, give me what I need to play the part that makes you look good. And the truth is, so many doors opened for me only after I built a business because people are like, well, I guess there is something here. Let me learn more about this Kabbalah stuff or this spiritual.
1:13:41It made you more credible. It brought more credibility to my platform. Which people need credibility. They do. I mean, people need someone else to have credibility to really go all in and invest in what they're saying for that topic. You might have spiritual credibility, but not financial credibility, right? Correct. Correct. And we are destined to have abundance in every part of our lives, not just one. And that's what I mean. Everywhere I go, I want everybody to know. And I'm not there yet. And I'm not perfect. And I have so much more that I need to work on. but what I do know and what I've been taught and I know it's the truth that we are meant to have the highest levels of joy happiness fulfillment abundance in every part of our lives every part and we don't have to suffer suffering does not have to be the norm it should be the exception life is beautiful the creator wants to give us everything and yes like the darkness that you went through and the darkness that I went through and you have challenges any darkness you're going through I promise you I promise you, I promise you, this is the vessel for something great.
1:14:48And you're not allowed to see it yet. It's interesting. Maybe like six years ago, I was going through a breakup, and the person I was dating decided to say a lot of nasty things about me online. Right. And it was at a time where my ego was more fragile. So it was probably exactly what my ego needed. Yeah. And I was trying to, you know, people were messaging me and asked me questions. Is it true? What did you do? What did, you know? And it was just like, just a hassle. And it was like, I wanted to look good. I wanted to look right. I wanted to be fair and just. And you don't know the whole story.
1:15:25And both say, whatever, you know? And as I was going through that, I had Robin Sharma on my show, like that week. And I was kind of a mess. I was like, oh, man. I'm like, just my energy was drained. My vessel was shrinking. Sure. But I did the interview anyways. And I was kind of telling him this, like, He was like, how are you doing? And I'm just like, well, that's what I'm going through right now. I'm sat on the show. Right before the show. Right before the show. And I was just being honest. I was like, I'm going through this. And I'm dealing with some challenges. And he said, a bad day for the ego is a great day for the soul.
1:15:59I was like, that's exactly what I need to hear right now. And something unlocked in me in that moment. And I think it's because I'd experienced painful moments in the past from getting injured, you know, losing my dream, getting injured and playing football, to my dad going through his accident, to these different moments, previous breakups, like different things that happened, a business partnership that didn't work out, you know, someone stealing a million dollars from me, all these different things, that something finally clicked, like all these bad moments or bad moments that happened in my life.
1:16:31It unlocked something else new for me to where I was in that moment. And when he said that, like, I don't know, a shot of light just went through me that started thinking, oh, I need to have future hindsight. Not hindsight, but I need to see myself in the future and know in the future, hindsight now, this is all happening for me. This is happening to unlock the vessel, like you said, to like, it's breaking me open. When someone hurts you, they actually expand you, is a quote that you said. And this like, boom, it's like what he said in that moment, I was like, future hindsight. Like everything that's happened in the past has set me up to be in essentially a better place.
1:17:14So if I know that this is happening for me, it's breaking my ego down. It's releasing me from a person I didn't want to be with. It's letting go. It's cleansing my soul. It's, you know, getting people out of my life who are thinking poorly about me. It's cleansing me. This is all happening to my benefit. I started to think that way, and it supported me getting through that season of life by just knowing, all right, I need to feel more pain. It's like, all right, let it go through me and open me up for more. You let it in at that point. Let it in. I was like, okay. I tried to resist things, but then I was like, I can't control this.
1:17:51It's too much. I can't control all these invisible forces of people saying things or gossip or judgment. I can't force it. I can't control it. And I go, this is happening for me and I get to accept it. And I'm just going to go through the process and cleanse. And it was a beautiful thing. I don't want to go through that, but it was a beautiful thing that allowed me to see where I am today. And I want to be in a beautiful, loving relationship today with peace and harmony without that pain. Without that pain. So that is possible. So it set me up, yeah. And I'm grateful for it. You know, it was painful as it was.
1:18:31Have you ever shared this story before? I've shared, yeah, parts of this, yeah. But it's like, as much as I didn't want to experience that, the ego did not want to experience that within me. My heart and my soul needed it. And I wouldn't have freed myself from people pleasing, from trying to change who I was to make someone happy without that experience. So it's like the universe or God was like, you keep going down this path, it's not your path. And let's figure out a way to get you out of this. Let's explode your lies. It can open up, right? Wow. You just said something so beautiful. The number one thing that causes a vessel to stay small is the need for approval.
1:19:17And it is a universal spiritual law that we all crave everyone else's approval. as soon as somebody walks into the room we immediately think how do we look how do I stand how is this person going to view me immediately why do we do that
1:19:36the reason is because you know I look at the wall here we are all meant to be great and that approval needs to come from the creator creator ultimately. And the way we practice learning how to love our soul, love the creator, is that we practice with people. And so people in the beginning are the ones that interact with us and kind of teach us how to have a relationship. But ultimately, in order to really give to people, people can't be your primer, your number one. The creator has to be your number one. Your soul's connection to the creator needs to be your number one. Then you stop taking from the people.
1:20:25In the beginning, yeah, we look for our mother and father's approval. We come out into this world and we need, we depend on other people for energy. But as we get older, and Kamala says around the age of 13, is the soul shifts and your direct connection ultimately needs to be with the creator. And then you need to start giving to the people. But if you're using people to feel good, You're using people to feel that you are successful. You're using your audience. It's one of the things I learned. If you use your audience to feel good about yourself, you're taking from your audience. Eventually, your audience will turn against you.
1:21:00So you have to look for your approval from a higher source and then never use the people for your validation. It's interesting you say that because I had a friend of mine, Patrick Ben David, on the show about a year ago. and he was talking about how for, I don't know, 15 years he was building his business. Maybe it's longer than that, but a long time he was building his business. He got to a massive business. He ended up selling it. I don't know what he sold it for, but it seemed like hundreds of millions probably in that range or something. And he said he started to shift his content to talking about things he was curious about and interested in, which was around politics and having people that were maybe controversial, but he was just curious about them.
1:21:43And he goes, his team was like, I don't know if you should do this because whatever hurts the business. What if you like alienated somebody to your audience? Or what if like you have someone on who's done something bad, but, and people are gonna be offended by it. And then that's gonna hurt you and your reputation and the business. And he was like, I see all that. And he was kind of holding onto that fear of like approval and audience and not losing people and making sure his team was happy and making sure that his audience was happy and everyone's happy. You know, just stay in my lane. And he said, I started to do this because I felt called to just be more curious about people.
1:22:17It doesn't mean I endorse every person I've interviewed or I believe in everything they've done is good, but I want to learn about them. I want to share certain things and I want to just share with the world. And he said, he says when he started to do that, it actually, everything started to explode. Wow. He got some pushback from certain people early on or people unsubscribed or people in his company left or whatever that didn't like he talking about these things. But things exponentially exploded as he just leaned into what he was curious about, what he felt called to do. Despite the fact that people are not going to approve of this.
1:22:49Yeah, a lot of people. A lot of people don't like it. I'm having political leaders on and different things that he was like, oh, they've said mean things or they believe in certain things. He wasn't endorsing them, but he was interviewing them. And I said, but what if you lost it all? What if you lost everything? What if like you keep going down this route and you lose everything, all the money, all the audience, everything, but you have the approval of God still? And he started crying and he got very emotional. He goes, listen, you can remove everything from my life. If I have the approval of God, that's all that matters.
1:23:25And I think that's interesting. It's like, but that's real courage. That's it. To lose, you know, he was a part owner of the Yankees and he's got hundreds of money and he's got all the company, the whole thing. He's like, I'm happy to lose it all as long as I have the approval of one. That's game over. It's scary though. Scary for people to like go all in on that and say, you might lose everything temporarily or might lose everything for a while or might, you know, things might go from you. That might happen. But his certainty, once you go back to the beginning, when you have certainty, I'm gonna have certainty that things are gonna turn out okay.
1:24:00I have certainty that I'm gonna figure out a way to make it back I have certainty that i'll be provided for Even if everyone's against me if one is in my favor, that's all that matters And that is game over That's peace of mind. That's happiness Because I mean you and I know all these people who are wealthy and they have so many things and the anxiety and the stress of losing It every day and the stress of it How do you manage this when you know as you've? started to make a lot more money. I don't know what Mary Roos' valuation is at. I think it was public years ago, hundreds of millions. It's probably somewhere from there to a billion valuation.
1:24:37People start to change around you. Friends, family, employees, people start to expect things. As you guys continue to make your own decisions as leaders in a business, some of your employees, customers, team may not respect it or may not agree with it or may have pushback and say, I don't like this, or I want this. How do you deal with that energy from team, employees, friends, family, customers, media that has pushback on your decision or your values or things you want to create? Great question. There's a spiritual law. Do you try to please them all? Do you try to manage their expectations? Do you just say, shut up, I'm going to do whatever we want?
1:25:19How do you navigate that? Well, one thing that just came to my mind, There's a spiritual law that you will not be judged by the people if you don't judge them. So the minute we judge someone, we have to go through the same thing. So for example, if I judge someone that they're overweight, at that exact moment, my metabolism slows down. Spiritually, I will end up going through whatever I judge someone else for. Well, why is that a spiritual law? because I need to ultimately, my highest vessel is to have empathy for all of mankind because we're all one soul. So when I'm judging someone, I'm really hurting a part of myself.
1:25:58And if I want to get to my perfected state, I have to get to a place where I can feel the pain of people as opposed to judging them. And this is huge. And I tell this to people all the time. If you're looking at someone, even a political figure, even someone on TV, or you're speaking negatively about them, You will at some point have to go through the same exact thing. Wow. Someone's like, oh, look at this person. They can't even ever keep a relationship. They're always going from one relationship to another. Three weeks later, problems in her relationship. It's always going to be like this. And one of the things I've learned is to protect the business, to protect our employees, to protect our customers, because anything can happen at any moment.
1:26:39I've learned not to judge my competitors, not to judge other people who are going through stuff, like really to try to understand and feel the pain of even our competitors. It's an energy intelligence. Yes, it's an energy. And actually, I'm friends with most of my competitors. One of my competitors just wrote to me, like direct competitor, wrote to me, do you know of any good employees that I can hire for this part of my company? He knows that he can come to me for that. And I will help him find someone who will be so good to compete against me. And I just know at the end of the day, if I... Because what's the forever one?
1:27:14Oh, there's endless. And what's mine is mine. And what's yours is yours. And no one can take what's yours. The only way someone takes what's yours is if you shrink your vessel by being so reactive, so doubtful, so negative. You shrink your vessel. So your competitor takes what's yours and holds onto it for safekeeping until you elevate your consciousness again. Wow. Someone could be with your soulmate right now only because your consciousness isn't ready. You're not ready for it. You're not ready for it. You're going to destroy her or him if you were with them. So yeah, someone's with your soulmate right now and they're having a great time.
1:27:47You need to elevate your spiritual game. You need to transform your negativity and then that person must come to you. My fiance and Martha, she's always like, I wish I would have met you like 10 years ago. We both moved to LA around the same time. I guess it was like 13, 14 years ago or something. She's like, I wish we'd have met them. Like we would have had such an amazing like decade together. And I always tell her like, I wasn't ready for you. Like I might've seen you one night out salsa dancing because we both salsa dance and we used to go to the same salsa clubs. I don't remember ever seeing her, but I go, I might've seen you and probably not even thought twice about you, not have been attracted to you for whatever spiritual reason.
1:28:24I wasn't ready. I didn't heal certain parts of me that I needed to heal or let go of things of me that were holding me back in emotional safety in a relationship. And I'm glad I didn't meet you back then because it wouldn't have worked out. I would have been like, hey, you know, my time, but I'm not ready, or I want to be like casual. Who knows? I would have just been like, I wouldn't have been ready for it. And we met at the time where we're both ready. And you weren't ready either. You had to go through certain lessons from your past that you need to break free of that I'll share with you before that if you hadn't have done that, we probably wouldn't have been a right match.
1:29:03Yeah, we wouldn't have been in alignment. We would have been two nice people out of alignment. Well, you know what I mean? That's so beautiful. But people pray, instead of praying for your problems to go away, instead of praying to find your soulmate, pray to have the right vessel to to be able to hold all of it. Because if you draw in something you're not ready for, it will destroy you and you will destroy it. And that's exactly what you just said about that. Everyone's praying to draw stuff in. That stuff wants to come. You don't have to pray for it. Pray to be ready for it. Pray to be ready for it.
1:29:36And that means you have to keep transforming. Pray for certainty. Pray for empathy. Pray for love. Pray to get over your resentment issues. If you have resentment for anyone in this world, it's pushing your wedding date back three months. Wow. you're pushing your soulmate away because your soulmate's a higher soul. You have to elevate your soul to that level. If you have resentment for someone or anger or you're harboring some kind of guilt, your soulmate can't come to you and will be with someone else until you let go of those things. Often it's pain that releases it. Or they could listen to one of your podcasts, be inspired to release it.
1:30:10That's a merciful way of transforming who they are. And here's another question people always ask. What if I'm married or in a relationship, but I don't think it's my soulmate? What do we know about that stuff? So one of the things I've learned is a soulmate is a soul, not a body, which means that if you do enough, and I've seen this, if you do enough spiritual work, you could wake up one day and the soul of your soulmate enters the man or woman you're with and they become a different person. Really? I have seen people who do such intense spiritual work. They come home one day and they go, I don't even recognize my husband.
1:30:46It's a different person. You actually drew a different soul into their body because you've now earned that. You don't have to divorce the person. The relationship doesn't have to end. You just have to do your work. I promise you, you'll get everything that is yours. Wow. That's crazy, man. You have a clip online that says when you kiss someone, you receive a part of their spiritual life. there. The reason why is because there's something that I did that relates to this. And you said, when you kiss someone, you receive a part of their spiritual baggage. When you kiss someone, you begin to receive a part of their soul.
1:31:22I think it's even deeper when you have sex with someone. Yes. I didn't put that clip up yet. I asked people to assume from the kiss. But I made a commitment with Martha. We made a commitment together. She always reminds me, we made a commitment together, that we were going to remove sex from the equation and really get to know each other spiritually for a number of months. And we spent a lot of quality time together while removing that part of the relationship. It was the best decision I ever made. It was one of the hardest things I ever did with an ego that I have. With desires, temptations, it was like, I had to curb the ego desire, but it was the best thing.
1:32:05And just you saying, like when you kiss someone, you receive a part of their spiritual baggage. You begin to receive a part of their soul. I think the chemical bonding of sex before getting to know someone more emotionally and spiritually is so scary how much bonding that creates chemically and confuses you from getting to know them spiritually, emotionally, financially, relationally, that it blocks you seeing a lot of those things that I think later could hurt you if you're not in alignment on all those things. Correct. So when there is a kiss, the breath creates a soul connection, right? Everyone's saying, I'm looking for a soul connection.
1:32:53Well, here it is. Your souls connect and your soul is carrying these positive and negative spiritual baggages and qualities from past life. And so when we are intimate with intercourse, it says actually you draw to the person all of the spiritual baggage of their past partners as well. And this is why, you know, once sex is in the equation, there's a lot of energy, there's a lot of influence, a lot of emotion. You just have to feel things that almost aren't you at times because you are carrying now a heavier weight. the way to protect yourself from that is in that beginning period you do things in order just like you said you get to know them and this creates a protection that eventually when sex for the right reason and the love is there that connection happens then the negativity dissipates and there's more of a positive connection you're not bringing in the spiritual baggage from someone else.
1:33:52So you're cleansing through the getting to know process. Getting to know process is an immunity. It's a protective layer to prepare your vessel for the highest level of energy, which is sex. Because sex is, you know, one of the two hardest things for people to resist in this world. It's the two areas that create or sustain life. The mouth is used to sustain life because we eat. And the sexual organ creates life. And it's the place where the negative side, this negative forces of this world and trust themselves. Wow. And that's why evil speech creates the most destruction in the world. And there's about 10 different kinds of evil speech.
1:34:27And every negative word that we say, we can go through the categories, every negative word we say creates a negative force in this world that is blocking another level of your fulfillment. Oh, what is that? So let's say, I don't know what the exact number is. Let's say, I think it's like, let's say we say 10 ,000 words in a day. And let's assume 95 % of them are negative. What are the categories? Complaining, lying, brown nosing. I mean, every word I say to look for someone's approval. Gossip that's true. Gossip that's false. Two separate categories. Saying words that are unnecessary. Just talking and everyone's like, stop talking.
1:35:03Like there's no value to what you're saying is also negative speech as well. Yeah. So these are the main categories. And when you use those negative speech categories consistently, what are you saying to God of the universe? Every word is a negative force or a negative angel. So you can imagine you surround yourself with 10 ,000 negative forces and angels, and each of them are fighting and making everything difficult for you. So let's say you drop your phone on the floor and it cracks. That's, you know, a hundred of these forces who manifested that for you. Let's say there's a car accident or a parking ticket, or all of a sudden you get sick.
1:35:39Sickness happens to cleanse all those forces. And that's why people feel enlightened back to their sickness, or they feel more spiritual. They feel like clearer things open up because there's a cleansing of these negative forces. I always tell people, you want to be successful? Shut your mouth. Just don't talk because then you're not creating any more negative forces. That's why I listen and do this interview. You know, when you're listening, people who listen, the quiet people are always the more successful ones. And also, never talk about what you're working on for the first 40 to 90 days because you draw other people's jealousy and evil eye, which begins to energetically sabotage what you're doing.
1:36:20People who prosper in silence prosper quicker. As soon as you start telling people about your ideas, even people you think love you, if it awakens lack in someone, it begins to steal energy from what you're doing. For example, pregnancy takes about 90 days for the soul of the child to come into the embryo. and those 90 days are very vulnerable. And so there's a spiritual law that you should not tell anyone unless it's a need-to-know basis, like your partner, obviously, and a doctor. But if you tell, for example, a sibling, a brother or a sister, and let's say they don't have children, and they go, they're happy you have a child, but they're like, you know, I wish I had a child.
1:37:03It's creating lack, jealousy, envy. It's passive evil. That lack begins to draw and siphon energy from the baby, even a little. And it could disturb the soul coming down. One of the main reasons behind a miscarriage can be the disturbance of other people's energy. Really? Because you mentioned before that you had multiple miscarriages. We had four. We had four. Four. Four miscarriages before we had four children. How has that for you experienced that, you and your wife? I remember Maru was working so hard at the time. She used to have one-on-one sessions all day long because we were so broke that we had to find a way to make money.
1:37:41She would meet people from 9 in the morning to 11 at night. Do you think because she was working so hard, her body created a miscarriage? Or was it something else? Well, there is the physical component to it where if you're stressed and you're working hard, you're not creating the physical environment for the child to come. The vessel to be. Yeah. Well, you really have to think about the spiritual side of it and the consciousness, which is we were working so hard. We were so broke. it was such a difficult time, there could have been a part of us that subconsciously said we are not ready for children.
1:38:10Because it's going to be even harder. If we're already broke and it's exhausting already, it's going to be even harder to bring a child in this world. Correct. And we knew that every child brings blessings. But there was also a part of us that we just knew we weren't ready. And I often tell people who are having trouble getting pregnant, really just make sure that all your desires are outlined because there could be a subconscious part of you that is saying, I don't want this child at the exact moment. A competing belief, right? That's the competing leader right there. Exactly. Interesting. And by the way, those four miscarriages in the toughest time of our life was also, okay, when it happened.
1:38:42I remember one time she had a miscarriage in a meeting with someone. She went, and it's a painful story. She went to the bathroom, had the miscarriage, came back and took six more meetings. Come on. She just knew. She's like, I have to take care of my family. And she came home that night and she told me about it. And I was like, Jess, I'm like, why did you take the rest of the day off? She said, I knew I couldn't. We had to pay our bills. How did that make you feel as the man in the relationship if you weren't bringing in the financial stability or abundance to create peace and harmony for your female partner?
1:39:16No one's ever asked me this question, and you really just touched upon something that was one of my biggest pain points and insecurities. Because I was teaching spirituality in the world, not getting paid for it, for a nonprofit. it. But that was how I was bringing my light to the world and my masculine energy. However, I wasn't making any money. And when I saw that, that was the day I remember after that miscarriage I went to her, I said, I'm leaving what I'm doing. And I'm going to go get a job. And I'm going to find a way to make more money to support our situation. She looked at me and she said, you are destined in this world to do what you're doing.
1:39:55I do not want you to leave what you're doing, you will have to stay, and we will figure out another way to make money. Because she believed in me, and she trusted the way I bring light to the world, weeks later we came up with the idea from Mary Ruth. Holy cow. I tell this to people and their partners, never put down the way you know your partner brings light to the world. Shines. When they shine, don't, don't, and she She could have easily said, yeah, go get a job. She said, no, we'll figure it out. That's inspiring. I mean, in some ways, it sounds like, some people may not like this, but it sounds like you, there's something still lacking in you to be the ultimate provider for your family.
1:40:42Yeah. Right? Even though you were providing spiritually for so many people and for the family, but you weren't providing financially. Correct. And what was probably something you felt you were supposed to do. And that's why Mary with Organics was built between the hours of 10 p.m. and 2 a.m. every night for the first two, three years. Wow. She would go to sleep at 10 to be up for her clients. I would stay up from 10 to 2. I slept on the floor in the living room for the first two years because I didn't want to disturb her. And I was Googling how to do Amazon and manufacturing, design, marketing.
1:41:16And I learned in those four hours. And I do believe that I got to spend a day helping humanity and helping people, volunteering my time, that the creator created that blessing for us that in the night I could help run the business. Wow. And we didn't have any employees for the first five years. The first$10 million of revenue, it was just Mary Ruth, myself, and my mother-in-law, Colleen. And we were a unit. We were a team. And we did everything together. First five years. First five years. Just all the money you're making and putting back into product and development. Back into product. Backed into quality, back into it.
1:41:50And Mary Ruth used to say all the time, profit equals the freedom to give back more to our employees ultimately. And the products just make their products better and better. She just said, keep making the products better and better and people will feel that energy. So we just put the money all back there. Wow, first five years. Yeah. That's crazy, man. And there's a limited belief. People think that they need to like raise all this money in the beginning and hire all this talent. You are the, we are so talented there's so much inside of us and with the right consciousness we can create miracles we don't need all these other energies getting involved it's true it's true man this is powerful stuff I've got a lot more questions I want to ask you but I want to get to the end here because I think this is a lot for people we'll have to have you back on and share some more but I've got two final questions for you but before we get into that I want people to follow you over on Instagram thank you it's David Guillaume.
1:42:48Well, my personal name. David Guillaume on Instagram, davidguillaume.com, G-H-I-Y-A-M.com. We've got a lot more of these universal spiritual tools and wisdom that you teach for free on your website, on Instagram. You do workshops as well. What are some of the workshops that you do over on your website? So there's a course I've been teaching for the last 20 years called Kabbalah One. And it's interesting. I had a guy take this course probably like eight, nine years ago. It changed his life, made him into a billionaire, literally. The content he learned spiritually changed his consciousness, helped him build several successful and had three successful exits in a row.
1:43:33He came to me, donated$2 million to create a masterclass of this course. And we created it. It's called KabbalahOne.com. And people can pay whatever they want for it. A dollar,$50 is all that goes to charity. And this is the course that people from all around the world are taking. My whole page, none of it's monetized for me. All of it is to give back to charity. What's the site? The site is kabbalah1.com, K-A-B-B-A-L-A-H-O-N-E. And it's a beautifully produced masterclass that goes step-by-step through all the spiritual laws of our soul, why we're here, how to create prosperity, the laws of relationships, consciousness, healing, any question you have about life is addressed in that course.
1:44:16And it's been the most popular thing the last five years. It's gone to everyone. Wow. That's beautiful, man. So people can go to cabalainone.com, check it out. We'll have all this linked up as well, social media. But how else can we be of service to you today? You know, my life, the greatest joy that I get is from bringing this wisdom to the world. You know, running a business, making money, I think it's nice. It brings the, it engages my creative side for sure. But the most passionate thing for me is finding a way to make God look good. I always say like, what would make, God has a bad name. It's like religion kind of gave it a bad name.
1:45:01You know, religiosity, dogma. And I think I want the world to know that in the way my life has been blessed from learning this wisdom and applying it. And God is very good. Like this creation is very good. The world is good. People are very, very good. I've had some of the quote unquote worst people come to me. And when I've talked with them, like everyone has a soul and everyone has a heart somewhere deep down behind all that negativity. And just having that certainty that there is a life waiting for all of us. And we can have everything that we want. and then just to spread that message more and more.
1:45:43It's just, it's all I want. You know, I don't have a product to sell. The content that I put out in the world, it's just, it's for the people. And so that's what it means a lot to me. People learn the content and then just be an example of that everywhere they go. Yeah, make God shine. Make God shine. Make God look good. Make God look good. God is sexy. You know, it's like sexy. Being one with the creator is very, it's cool. It's like you get everything. The creator controls everything. Like you can have everything. Who doesn't want to have everything? Even becoming the president of a country, it's so limited.
1:46:13It's like, okay, you have a little power. You control 100 million people. The creator influences the entire universe. Every tree, every plant, every blade of grass, the oceans, all the angels, all the forces of this world, every human. It's like, become one with that. It's like a universal GPS. You plug into it. It's like Waze. You just tell your destination. Waze tells you where to go. And even when you make a mistake, this is how God works. The Course Corrects. The Course Corrects. It says recalculating with no judgment. Every time you make a spiritual mistake or you fail or you go backwards, don't worry.
1:46:50The Creator just says recalculating. I will get you there. And if you want to, on purpose, go against it and keep making the wrong left turn, Waze just keeps says recalculating. It might take you longer to get there. It might take you longer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's no judgment. There's no guilt. There's no shame. There's no fear. Wow. Creator loves you. That's beautiful, David. I've got two final questions. Before I ask them, I want to acknowledge you, David, for being of service. Your whole life, it sounds like, except for the gambling job that you had. But most of your life has been about being of service, continuing to learn, to create your own vessel, and to serve.
1:47:26And so I want to acknowledge you for the gift that you are and for making God look good. Thank you. By showing up, by serving, by creating value, by constantly coaching people and then also showing what's possible spiritually but also financially and saying, how can I transform and create financial wealth for myself and my family? And so I want to acknowledge you for breaking through that limiting belief or competing belief that you might have had and being able to do both hands. And I'm excited to see what you continue to create and how you continue to serve and generate moving forward. This is a question I ask everyone at the end called the three truths.
1:48:07Hypothetical question. You get to live as long as you want, but it's your last day. And you get to create, generate, experience everything you desire. But for whatever reason, on the last day, everything you've created, all the content, this is a conversation, your businesses, for whatever reason, everything's gone. and it goes somewhere else. It's not here in this world anymore. But on the last day, you get to leave behind three lessons to the world. I call it three truths. This is all we would have to kind of remember your content by. What would be those three lessons for you? The first lesson would be every single thing is good.
1:48:49And the uglier, darker it looks, even this is good because it all comes from the creator. The second thing I would say is don't judge anyone because there is a reason why everyone does what they do. And if you were in their shoes and you had their baggage and you had their past life and you had their soul's correction, you would be going through the same thing. And the third thing is to know that the creator wants to give you everything, unlimited. The amount that you as a parent would want to give to your child, the creator wants to give you millions of times more, and you deserve it, and you will have it, you're guaranteed to have it.
1:49:45How long it takes is our only free will. and can I say one thing that I learned from you sure you know I obviously heard a lot about you coming here I I heard so many amazing things but we I think we spent a good hour back there you were kind of telling me your story and I love hearing people's story about how they build and obviously most people don't know this because you give me the behind the scenes information. But I learned just how patient you are with everything that you do and the energy of authenticity I felt because you've said no. The audience probably does know this, but you've said no to so many things that could have probably generated more wealth or more fame.
1:50:35and instead you stuck to what was authentic and valuable for you and your audience. The second thing I noticed, because you just did it for me on the show too, is you were always giving more value to people than you're asking for from them, which I've noticed to be the success formula of every successful person I've ever met. And yeah, you have a huge platform. You're giving people, your audience that you've built for your whole life. And you're not really, you know, you're not really asking for much. And I've seen it. I've seen, and I know it from people who've come on your show. So there are a couple of valuable lessons for me there.
1:51:17And it's just the patience and the authenticity. Because I'm the kind of person that always thinks, so how do I get farther ahead? And I think it's very valuable, slow and steady wins the race. Appreciate it. Thanks, man. I appreciate that acknowledgement. Final question, David, what's your definition of greatness? I think the definition of greatness for me would be everywhere you go, people can be blessed because of you. And there's just by your presence or your words, you create greatness. You create miracles. You create healing. People's consciousness goes up because you walked into the room.
1:51:59even if you don't have to say anything because of your vibration or because of the work you did when nobody was looking I think there's no greater gift that we can give to mankind and I know that's what fuels me it's all the stuff that we do when nobody's looking that's what greatness is for me oh man, thanks for being here thank you for having me powerful man, thank you I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad-free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our Greatness Plus channel exclusively on Apple Podcasts.
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