How To Think Like A Champion & Destroy Your Limits With Your Mindset

15 Nov 2024 · 1 h

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Episode Notes: How To Think Like A Champion & Destroy Your Limits With Your Mindset

Podcast Overview Title: The School of Greatness Host: Lewis Howes Guests: Canelo Álvarez, Jake Paul, Mike Tyson Episode Focus: Developing an unshakeable mindset to overcome limits and achieve greatness.

Key Themes

  • Mindset of a Champion: Insights from successful athletes on mental toughness.
  • Resilience and Sacrifice: The importance of maintaining drive and determination.
  • Self-Belief: Cultivating a belief in oneself even amidst challenges.

Guest Insights

Canelo Álvarez

  • Career Longevity: Explains how he has maintained his hunger for excellence over a 19-year career.
  • Hypothetical Matchup: Discusses who would win between Mike Tyson and Jake Paul, emphasizing the physical risks involved in boxing.
  • Mindset Development: Stresses the importance of developing a champion's mindset before achieving external success.
  • Business Ventures: Shares his enjoyment in entrepreneurship and the importance of balancing business with sports.

Jake Paul

  • Journey from Disney to Boxing: Outlines his transition from a Disney star to a prominent figure in boxing and content creation.
  • Self-Belief and Innovation: Talks about the necessity of believing in oneself and continuously innovating in content creation.
  • Giving Without Expectation: Emphasizes that helping others leads to long-term success and fulfillment.
  • Daily Discipline: Details his rigorous schedule and time management strategies to balance multiple ventures.

Mike Tyson

  • Psychology of a Champion: Shares personal experiences that shaped his mindset and the importance of resilience.
  • Overcoming Fear: Tyson explains how he never experienced fear in the ring, focusing instead on enjoying the sport.
  • Life Lessons: Discusses lessons learned from boxing, including discipline, sacrifice, and the significance of mental training.

Key Takeaways

  • Champion Mindset: A strong mindset must precede external achievements.
  • Continuous Improvement: Constantly striving for excellence even after reaching success.
  • Power of Visualization: Visualizing success and preparing mentally for challenges.
  • Giving Back: Creating value for others without expecting anything in return enhances personal fulfillment.
  • Time Management: Organizing daily tasks and utilizing resources effectively can boost productivity.

Conclusion The episode highlights that developing a champion's mindset involves more than winning; it requires dedication, sacrifice, and a genuine love for the craft. The insights from Canelo Álvarez, Jake Paul, and Mike Tyson provide a diverse perspective on what it means to achieve greatness, reminding listeners that mindset is crucial in overcoming limits.

Additional Resources

  • For more information and related episodes, visit [Lewis Howes Website](https://www.lewishowes.com/1694).
  • Follow Lewis Howes on social media platforms for more motivational content.

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0:00Hey everyone, welcome back to the School of Greatness. Today we have a very special collection of episodes. And one of the biggest things people struggle with today in life is mindset. It's understanding their own mindset and how to go from a weak mindset that keeps people struggling in their career, their life, their relationships, into a strong, powerful, foundational mindset that allows you to overcome the obstacles that are thrown your way. And a great famous quote is that everyone's got a plan until you get punched in the face. That is from the iconic Mike Tyson, who we have an amazing excerpt from one of our interviews on the School of Greatness with Mike Tyson in this episode.

0:42But in this interview series, we've got three powerful boxing experts and also business leaders. First, we have Canelo. Canelo is arguably one of the greatest boxers of all time, specifically in this generation. I had the opportunity of interviewing him while he was preparing for a fight. And we talk about how he's learned to develop a mindset, a sustaining mindset of success for so many years. He's been in the game for a long time. And we go over really a little bit about his mindset. And also we ask him a big question. Who do you think would beat you in the boxing ring? Mike Tyson or Jake Paul?

1:25And his answer and response was pretty interesting. I'm excited for you to see what he says based on that question. And a big thing happening with both of those individuals fighting each other. Then we hear a clip from Jake Paul, who we had on seven years ago, before he got into boxing, before he became one of the most popular people on the internet, but also one of the most hated people on the internet. He was a Disney star. He left high school. He came to Los Angeles. I met him in those early years when he came to LA and I got to know him behind the scenes. I got to see a little bit about who he was, his character, his heart, his mindset.

2:04We played pickup basketball together. I went to his house when he had a whole house of creators that he was living with. I got to see him before all this stuff happened. I got to watch him practice boxing in the early days. and I watched his evolution over many years. We talk about the mindset he had and really how he went from a high school kid making content to building a network of influencers and creating expansive content to how he's learned how to persevere over challenges, developing self-belief in himself, and overcoming all the different things that he had to do. Now, love him or hate him, it's hard to deny what he's created for himself and he's constantly reinventing himself and he talked about this idea of how can I continue to innovate and have continuous improvement on my content creation that's what he talked about in part of this interview and you see that through his evolution how he spoke it into existence and then he went and created it and is creating it now it's pretty powerful to watch what he's created whether you love him or hate him it's interesting to see what he's created, his creativity, his dedication, and how he's taken his boxing career this seriously.

3:20He also talked about how he believes that by helping others, you eventually set up yourself for rewards down the line. So just note that when you're listening to the segment with Jake Paul. And he also talks about his mindset and how it's at the center of everything he does. Then we do a clip from an interview that I did on the School of Greatness with the iconic Mike Tyson. Mike shared some powerful insights about the mindset required to be a true champion. And here's a kid who struggled immensely as a young adult, who had huge success and fame, and then it all came crashing down, who's had to reinvent himself over and over.

4:03and he talks about the mindset of a champion in this segment as well. Powerful stuff. I'm excited to see what you think and I would love your comments and feedback below on what you think about each one of them with Canelo, Jake Paul and Mike Tyson. Welcome to this special masterclass. We've brought some of the top experts in the world to help you unlock the power of your life through this specific theme today. It's going to be powerful, so let's go ahead and dive in.

4:40I had Mike Tyson on twice on my show, and I had Jake Paul on. I know they're fighting. I'm sure everyone's asking you about it. I'm curious, who do you think would be a harder fight for you right now, Mike Tyson or Jake Paul? In a hypothetical scenario, who do you think would be tougher for you?

5:02I think if you put them together in the ring with me, maybe it's gonna... Maybe both together. Maybe it's gonna be a little complicated. But one or the other, they're about the same, you think? Yeah, at least they're not. They're the same, you think, for you? Who do you think would win between them? It's hard to say, but, you know, it's risky for Mike Tyson. Really? Yeah, because he's 57 and 58, I don't know. And boxing is no, it's not a joke. It's no joke. It's, but you know, I know I get it. I get it, I get it, what they, why they do this. It's a business. It's a business. Yeah, yeah. They're gonna fight with 18 ounces, with no - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

6:01It's a business. Speaking of business, you've been getting into business more and more over the years, which I'm excited to talk about as well. Real estate, your own businesses, Canelo Energy, all these different brands that you're building. What excites you the most about business and entrepreneurship?

6:20And is it a distraction to do all that as well as fight ever? No. No. No, no, it's a distraction because I have my correct people doing my team, everything. And I do what I need to do for my business, and I care about every business I have. But I like it. I enjoy doing real estate. I enjoy doing my drinks. And everything I do, I really enjoy it. Yeah. What is your vision for your business? stations everything you got a lot going on what is your vision for your for your future after boxing is it to be a business leader in the world or what is the main vision that you have for business yeah that's that's my goal is being one of the best businessmen in the world really yeah why does Does that excite you so much after boxing?

7:22I just... You love it. I love to be involved in these kind of things and see how they go big and big and big and big, you know, starting with some and then growing up. I like it so much because when I was young, I saw my brother, Ricardo. So he put ice cream store with$5 ,000. And we built in five, six months, like bring people, bring people, bring people. And then he sell it for$30 ,000,$40 ,000. So, and I saw him and I just started learning. start learning, and I really enjoy that kind of things. Well, that's beautiful, man. Is there a difference between how you trained early on when you were a nobody the first few years in your teens versus how you train now, mentally, physically?

8:30Is there a difference? If so, what is that difference? Mentally, I think it's the same mentality, the same hunger, you know? For me, I train my mind is always try to get more, try to get more history to my career. And it's never enough for me. Really? It's never enough for me. I always train so hard because, you know, I started like that, training so hard because in my mind always when I was a kid, I say, I want to be a champion. And then I accomplished that champion and I say, it's something else there. So I always, my mind is always, it's never enough for my mind. Right. I always trained so hard and I love boxing so much.

9:33I enjoy it. I enjoy it. I still enjoy it. You still enjoy it. But it's almost been 20 years, right? 20 years. 19 professional. 19 professional. What is the three greatest lessons that boxing has taught you in almost 20 years of boxing? It's going to be very difficult to pick three lessons because I think the man I am right now, I learned from boxing because my whole life, I give my whole life to boxing. I think boxing teach me everything, everything, bad and good and everything. I think boxing made me. It made you, yeah. What is the lesson that you would say to your younger self with all the wisdom and experience you have now?

10:25It's the only thing I can say to them. You're 15 in front of you. I have my son and say, you can do whatever you want. It just, you just need to be able to, to have, able to sacrifice this discipline and hard work. Yes. And have a good mentality because if you have that three things, discipline, sacrifices and hard work. Hard work. But if you don't have that mentality, it's going to be very difficult. How do you keep the hunger alive inside of you for so long though? Because you were starting out as a young man wanting to be a champion. You became a champion. But how do you continue year after year to stay hungry and love us so much?

11:15I don't know. I don't know. I always say because I love what I do. And I have that passion on me. And I love what I do. And I enjoy it. And I'm that kind of man. I'm that kind of person to say, if I'm going to do something, I'm going to do 100%. No in the middle. I don't know 90%. I'm 100%. I always try to do my best and try to do my everything. And I think because I love what I do. How do you manage fear? Did you have a lot of fear growing up as you started fighting? And do you have any fear when you fight today? I never feel fear. Really? In boxing. I never feel how it's like to feel that fear.

12:03I always enjoy it. I just enjoy it a lot. My favorite day, my favorite thing is sparring days and a fight day. I just enjoy it a lot. I enjoy it. And I never have that experience to feel the fear or something. When you became a champion, world champion, did you feel fear to lose that ever? Really? No, never. Never feel that fear. Why not? Did someone teach you how to overcome fear? I don't know. I always say because I really enjoy boxing. I really love boxing. I really love being in the ring fighting. I never thinking about if this happened. I always go with that mentality to win and enjoy. Do you ever, when you're preparing for a fight, do you ever think about, well, what happens if I get knocked down or if I lose, will I feel bad?

13:04I never think about lose. I never think about lose. I always think and train for the win. Yes. And yes, I do. I think about if I get knocked out, how I'm on a reaction. And we train about everything. You train it. You'll fall down. If I feel dizzy, what I'm going to do. Really? We always train about that. We prepare ourselves for everything, of course. But I never think about losing. Wow. What is the process like the day of a fight for you, mentally and emotionally? How do you prepare for that fight? For me, it's a normal day. Just like grab a cup of coffee, relax, hang out. Yeah, relax. Obviously, very relaxed.

13:49But for me, in my mind, it's a normal day. Really? But the world is gonna watch you on these fights. Yeah, I know. There's so much money on the line that, you know... I don't think about that. For me, it's normal. I'm gonna do my thing, and that's it. Obviously, I think... I... I... I put everything together that day. We... we put in the whole training camp. I put, okay, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that, and we train for this and that. But for me, it's a normal day. It's like a... You wake up the same time? If you see me in the locker room 20 minutes before the fight, I'm listening to music, chilling with my team.

14:40So for me, it's a normal day. Are you not visualizing the fight? Yeah, always. You are. I always visualize my fight in the night. I know, okay, this happened, I'm going to do this, everything. How much energy does it take from you to visualize? There's a lot of energy to train, to run every day, to spar, to lift. But how much energy to actually think at night about what you're going to do in the ring? I just think. I don't put so much energy to think. Because I just, I just, okay, I'm going to do this and this. I train for this and that's it. Yeah. For me, like my life routine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

15:26It's not like I don't want to do this or to stress myself. It's relaxing. It's relaxing. It's relaxing. Wow, that's beautiful. And what do you think about after you win a fight? When you've prepared for months and you win a big fight and the whole world is watching, how does it make you feel? It's the best feeling. Yeah. It's the best feeling because you put your life there. You put everything in the training camp. You left your family. You left everything for that moment. Yes. For that moment, for that win. You prepare yourself for that win, and it's the best feeling. Yes. Then it's when you realize everything you do, everything, the sacrifices, the discipline you put in the gym, there is the result.

16:16It's worth it. Yeah, yeah. Did you ever doubt yourself growing up? Never. Like, self-doubt? Never. Insecurities? Never in my life. How did you learn that, though? I don't know. So many people in the world are insecure about who they are, right? They doubt. I never doubt about myself. Was that your parents or your grandmother? No, I don't know. Did they teach you how to believe in yourself? I don't know. My mentality is always like, I don't care who is there. I'm going to achieve my goals no matter what. So I just started professional boxing when I was 15 years old. So sometimes my trainers saw the opponent and say, hey, he's too strong and he's 30 years old.

17:00I don't care. I don't really care. And then two rounds and that. And you knock them out, yeah. Do you have, I mean, do you ever have any insecurities outside of boxing, like starting business or in some other ventures? No. No insecurities? No. I think the first time I jump in the bus and try to sell ice creams in the bus, I feel a little, I don't know, insecure or I feel a little changed. because, you know, I'm red hair, freckles and everything, and I feel like a little ashamed. Maybe insecure. But you're like five, six, seven years old? Yeah, five, six years old. It's like popsicles. And then I say, oh, nothing happened.

17:57And then I start feeling good. But I think that moment I feel like a little insecure because the people saw me and say something about me i don't know but then i don't give up so like so 25 years ago was the last time you were insecure yeah

18:23like being on set and like having that experience crisis yeah it's priceless and and it was like so beneficial in the long run because you see how the acting classes then apply in real life because uh you know you're on set you're kind of just chilling then it's like makeup wardrobe here your lines stand here go and it's like that fast and before you know it you're like oh my god like i'm in front of camera like they're about to roll and then everything's on you like 50 people and you have to like nail your lines and nail your take um so how did you do did you ever mess up a bunch when you were like when it was rolling on you or were you pretty prepared i was pretty yeah no i was pretty prepared because i was like yo this is my first thing like i uh you gotta be ready i was nervous though i can imagine i was really nervous did you have to do a lot of takes or did you kind of get your groove how did that work i kind of got the groove i think the first couple takes i was like nervous and it wasn't just like a solo scene or whatever so uh there was like other actors messing up oh that helped me but then i would like mess up one and we found the rhythm but yeah uh after the first kind of scene the nervousness went away and I got comfortable with the director and the crew.

19:33And then you landed your own show, right, with Disney? Yeah, so all those kind of built up. Well, before Disney, my brother and I kind of had this attitude like, why are we waiting for other people to cast us when we know we're talented? We want to showcase our skills. um why not like write a movie and i think i don't know if you talked about this a little bit but go ahead yeah so like we we uh sat down and we're like okay let's write a movie and went into that process learned a lot about writing from that um finished the project and uh then went to go like raise funds for it and like we had no idea what we were doing uh but we like paired with some some awesome people and um eventually we had uh ron burkle and jonathan ornstein fund the movie and like we got to see like our vision come to life and now it's like fully shot uh and edited and should be coming out like this this year sometime uh it's called like airplane mode and we have like all of our social media friends in it um but that was like the idea like yo we could we could do this on our own because we have the built-in audience um and i think we'll see we'll start to see like a lot more of that in the future yeah and like i know we want to continue to to do our own projects as well as be in these like traditional films but um yeah i actually could lead into your next one i actually couldn't be in that movie because it's like rated r really and i yeah and i booked the disney show you couldn't be in airplane mode I couldn't be in it.

21:20Because it's rated R? Because you're under 18 or what? How's that work? Because I booked the Disney show right before they were about to start shooting. I was like, I can't pass up this opportunity. So because you're on a Disney show, you can't be in a rated R movie. Well, yeah. It's pretty. I mean, there's like a gray line. Sure. But the script was like, it was pretty vulgar. And they were like, we can't really have you in this. So you didn't want to pass up on Disney? Of course. Yeah. No, definitely not. and that like whole process of you know auditioning to be on disney was like a whole nother level of like competition because there's so many kids and like so many different rounds of auditioning how many kids were there how many rounds i think it i mean i think at the start there was like 10 but that was like after it was like narrowed down right um so i don't know what the initial like search was but might have been hundreds in the beginning and then it got down like 10 finalists and then you did a certain amount of rounds was it like a month of rounds or was it a couple weeks it was like two to three weeks um and then they would like have you test with like the other actors and you know figure out like who was vibing the best and i remember just like seeing the character and i immediately like understood who he was um and when i went to go do my first test with the girls who were already casted as like the two lead roles um i walk into this room and there was like a giant table and like just 15 like executive looking people like just staring at me suits you're like yeah and i like walk in i'm like hey like what's up guys like trying to like crack the like break the ice and um we went into the test were you Nervous, intimidated?

23:06I was very nervous. I was very nervous, but I practiced so much. I had my lines perfectly memorized. I knew exactly the arcs I was going to take throughout the scene.

23:19Halfway through the scene, I was playing it so good that the girls that I was testing with started laughing. They broke character because I was making them laugh so hard. You were too good. Yeah, the executives were laughing too. and sort of after that one like i came home and my brother was like how did it go and i was like yo i i know i got the role i know i got the role uh and i kind of just like had that that mindset of like yo like i killed that one i just got to keep on killing it and eventually got the role um but it was an awesome process and that was probably like one of the the biggest moments of my career getting the call like, hey, like you booked this Disney Channel show.

24:03It was very, very surreal. It's crazy. That's like winning the state championship, national championship. Exactly. And I knew that I had to, you know, break into traditional media somehow in some way. And if I was one of the first influencers to do so, then that would set me up for success in the future. just because having that experience under my belt, which is like the Disney, it's like a powerhouse and brand and their connections and they own Marvel and ABC. I was like, okay, this is the right place to be at. And the experience I gained from just the first season of being on Bizaardvark was massive.

24:53Like shooting 21 episodes, like I could memorize pages of lines in like minutes and blocking and four cameras pointed at me. And like I basically throughout that process, I lost like all the nervousness I had as an actor. I completely like broke out of my shell, which takes sometimes it takes like a lot of actors a long time to get there. And then once they get there, they're like they're some of the best actors that we see today. Wow. But yeah, I mean, it was such a huge moment to be able to have like a series regular job, something steady as an actor. Yeah. And again, you're differentiating yourself from all the other big social media influencers who have, maybe they have 10 million followers, but they don't have mainstream credibility.

25:40They don't have something consistent. They're schlepping like sweet tea or whatever it is, or like vitamins online to continue to make money because they've got this audience, but they don't know how to build a business. that don't know how to build their own brand and traditional media around it. Maybe they're getting a few press hits or some articles or features, but they're not doing something like this, like a show, a movie, getting bigger brand deals the way you are, which is interesting. Exactly. And one thing that I noticed after we finished filming or after the show started airing, a demographic that never previously came up to me in public started coming up to me.

26:18Really? And it was an audience that was like five, six, seven years old that didn't even have cell phones. And so that was like five year olds come up to you. Yeah. And, and this was like your name on the show. Dirk. Dirk. So they say you're, they don't even know Jake. They don't even know Jake. Yeah. They say, oh my God, like you're on Bizaardvark and they don't even have cell phones. And that moment I realized, okay, this decision to spend a ton of time on making the show was so worth it because I'm building into that audience who eventually will have phones, who can eventually follow me on social media, and while I'm building out this social media demographic.

27:00And so to me it was all worth it when that started to happen. Because you're probably not making as much money as you could be on other things from the show. I'm sure it's making good money, but it's not like as big as a big brand deal could be for you just for one video. Of course. Yeah, no, you're right. And so you're almost sacrificing a certain area of your finances and your business to have a huge upside later. You're delaying the gratification by reaching an audience again that really can't do much for you right now. But also tying yourself to Disney brand and saying you're an actor on Disney is massive.

27:33Yeah. And that was like the thought around it. like I'm going to need to invest the time now and this is going to pay off later. And the hustle on everything else is going to have to increase because like even now I'm going to have to vlog every day while on set every day. So, wow, it's going to it's a lot. How do you organize? You know, when I was 19, I was I couldn't even get to class, you know, and all I was doing was focusing on football and I don't know, like what I was going to eat that day. Like how are you as a 19 or 20 now, right? Yeah. How are you as a 20 year old organizing your day, your finances, your life, thinking about acting businesses that we haven't even talked about building your content every day?

28:18Like you're doing so much every day. How does someone at 20 when a lot of people are listening at 30, 40, 50 are struggling with organizing a day? How are you able to do that? The number one thing towards time management. And how are you like thinking about that? it and and what did you how have you learned how to do this so as as like my day started to fill up to the point where like i couldn't do anything else in the day i had to just go to sleep i was like how do i prioritize this um and i studied a lot about about time management like prioritizing the the things that you need to get done on a day-to-day basis what's what's more important And like you sitting on your phone and like texting people back right away or getting your video done and to the editor and being on set and memorizing your lines and taking this specific meeting.

29:11And I then invested money to hire employees to like an assistant who can basically do a lot of these like small tasks for me that I don't necessarily need to be doing unless I have to be there. I'm not going to do it. And she's like scheduling my day and, you know, breaking down things as much as possible. And the biggest thing I can say is like habit, the power of like habit and like doing things consistently, you know, waking up at this time, starting your video at this time, having your weekly meeting on Monday at 10 with all of your employees. so that you know you're going to have to get a different piece of content for that day because you're not going to have as much time to film.

30:03Kind of just knowing all of these things. But a lot goes into it and you really – like my saying is you got to want it. And I think that's the number one thing is you got to want it. There's so much time in a day when I pause and stop all of these things. I'm so bored. in the time. So I think I really started to realize how much time there was in a day and you got to want it and cut out all the stuff that doesn't matter. Even a lot of influencers in particular, they want to go out to eat for every single meal. Breakfast, go to a breakfast spot. Lunch, go to a lunch spot. Dinner, go to a dinner spot.

30:48that right there is like each of those activities is two hours i'm like yo i'm just gonna like have i'm just gonna get a personal chef and like have meal plans and uh microwave the stuff cook it up it's healthy quick done so like little things like that uh you have to think about they are taking a lot of meetings aren't they just like lunch and dinner meetings or just hanging with friends during breakfast a lot of it just like hanging out yeah it's saying yeah that is six hours a day of just like eating exactly and going to somewhere yeah yeah amazing man do you do you study anyone who does this are you reading books are you how are you learning these things um i forget the guy's name yeah i was i was studying it um what's his name lee lee clark lee something i don't know he he has a program called like thrive 15 but oh yeah have you heard of that yeah so um i watched a couple of videos on there yep that really like talked about how um time management and all these things setting up your day exactly and and the way i think about it is like yeah i'm doing all of these things but like people are doing more yeah like there's celebrities doing more so how can i do more uh there's business people who are doing more like i just think about the ceo of uber or you know snapchat like imagine how much stuff is on their to-do list um and they have to prioritize it um and so i think about it in the same way as much as possible five years ago before you got into all this stuff did you imagine you'd be here right now no what do you think you'd be doing like finishing school and going to college and you know have a girlfriend or what was your vision then my vision then uh i was actually training uh i was starting to train to become a navy seal really yeah that's typical ohio you Of course.

32:41No, I was like, I didn't know what I wanted to do. My grades weren't that good. But I was athletic. I knew how to work hard. And I was smart. I just didn't ever apply myself. And so I started in the Navy SEALs, everything that I loved, like competition, mental toughness. Brotherhood. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And so I was like fell in love with that and started putting a lot of effort into like figuring out how I was going to do that. And I mean, it's still something I want to do. But maybe you can play Navy SEAL on a movie. Exactly. That's the great thing about Hollywood is cool. You can do everything.

33:23Yeah. So you're on that track. And then these things kind of unfold. When you started to get the traction, did you realize like, oh, I want to be like this influencer person and this is what I'm going to do now? Or did you think you'd be this big? I don't think so. I think part of where we found success is not thinking too much. Yeah. Which is like I think a lot of people overthink like, okay, I need to do this, this, and this. And, you know, it's super hard to become an actor, so I'm not even going to try. We didn't know how hard it was. But we just like went for it. I think that's like part of where we found success.

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34:01Or like we didn't know, you know, exactly, you know, the formulas for creating like the best videos online at this point. Like we were still young and like green. But we just went for it and posted content. And I think as I, you know, started to progress, I sort of like was learning a lot and then started to see like where this could go. but definitely from the start I was like growing followers and making money from it eventually I realized I needed to have a vision and what is the vision now? vision now I I like to think of myself as like a young Ashton Kutcher like the modern young Ashton Kutcher where he takes his um you know acting presence and grows that becomes like you know a huge star but is also on the business side of things and the and the tech side of things and is an investor and you know if ashton doesn't want to act he doesn't have to um and i think a lot of actors are trying to like take that route now but they don't know how to do it like they're maybe just good at acting but the spin on it is like now there's a social media element involved and the acting space is a little bit different and like getting to the top is no one's really done it in like today's space now so there's not like a paved set path but yeah like I want to have this big presence in the world and be able to you know launch different businesses and products and charities and give back to the fans and just have fun along the way.

35:55I think one of my very specific goals is I'd like to be a superhero or supervillain in a huge action movie. Like Marvel? Yeah. That'd be sweet. Yeah. The Green Goblin? I like, I want to play like the Joker or something like that. Oh, that'd be good. Like a hard role. That's really hard. Yeah. I could see that. that's cool man I'd see as the uh the young Ashton Kutcher for sure I mean that guy's really paved out an incredible career for himself great brand and he's you know invested in multiple you know companies as well I'm an investor in one of the companies he's an investor in and uh it's been incredible to see what he's done I don't know him personally but he's always impressed me so yeah no same and that you could do that I mean hey that's great vision man thank you that's awesome and so you're it's what's fascinating now is you're 20 years old and you've got you started a couple of companies already and you have this thing called team 10 is that correct yeah and what is team 10 and what was the vision for creating this so sort of right when i back tracking like before the acting stuff like that's one side of me social media sides one side the business side is like i was sitting here in la i was like how do i become bigger than just myself or how do I create like an empire?

37:14And I asked myself and a couple of my mentors were like, think of how you can create money while you're sleeping, like mailbox money where like you're just getting checks for not doing anything necessarily. And I started to think of how this would be applicable and I was like studying the entertainment space and I saw what Dr. Dre did where he was a big artist himself. He had a skill set and he would find people with the potential to be like him. He would teach them that skill set, help them cultivate it and then put them in front of his audience. And from that, they would blow up. Out comes Eminem, 50 Cent, Snoop Dogg, Tupac.

37:59And he starts to create this network and Dr. J becomes bigger than himself. But then what he did that was special was like, takes that network of influential people that he's very close with and puts a pair of headphones on them and then that's his billion dollar exit and so i was like okay is this same model applicable in social media uh can i find someone else who has potential small following and make them massive online. Um, and so I put it to the test and it immediately worked. I found these kids, they had like 30 ,000 followers at the time and, uh, like brothers or their brothers, their twins.

38:43Yeah. And, and brought them out to Los Angeles for like a month, started making videos with them, taught them like, you know, little tips and tricks to add to their content, taught them like how to post across the different platforms, like all the little things that go into it and i put them in front of my audience and they were young good looking and good at making videos and so they immediately went from like 30 000 followers like 500 000 in a matter of weeks wow and so i was like okay this worked what are they at now now they're at like 15 million what yeah on one channel on all channels just all their channels combined wow yeah uh but at the time it was kind of just like a test and uh i was seeing if it would work so and i was still 17 at the time it's crazy it sounds cliche but what i found in growing out the the network that i have with other influencers is like at the start i was just always giving and giving and giving and seeing nothing in return and then later on that's when the rewards come and so i think as much as you can give to people without expecting anything in return whether that's giving to charities whether that's giving people advice whether that's giving people promotion in a video or you know giving back to your fans and thanking them i think that always comes full circle and what goes around comes around i think life will then give give back to you um because at the start of like growing team 10 alone it was just like a lot of giving and nothing in return uh until like very recently actually um and so i found out that if you can give in relationships or in business or in life or to charities that i really think that whatever the higher power is i think there's something up there that then gives you that back in in greater form that's great man

40:55what does it take to be a true champion to be the best in the world at something you lived it for a long time what does the mindset have to be like if someone wants to be the best at what they do it's just that dedicating and sacrificing your life to be in a particular way you want to be like you want to conduct it say you want to be like tony robbins you you get all the information you can about Tony Robbins. And you conduct your, this is how I want to live my life. This is almost like, what do we call these things? This is your manuscript. Yeah. You know what I mean? Your blueprint, yeah. Yeah, this is what I'm going to do.

41:32Yeah. And I'm going to live like Tony. I'm not going to be Tony Robbins, but I'm going to live it. I'm going to conduct myself like Tony Robbins. Yeah, yeah. So you got to live it, you got to breathe it. Yeah, and you have to be that before you actually become the person. Interesting. You're not going to become the person You think you're prepared to be Tony Robbins right now? Right through there. Tomorrow I'm going to be Tony Robbins. You didn't know. It's going to take time, so I'm going to become this guy. You know, I'm going to be this guy before, because you're not ready. But when time comes, you're going to be ready.

41:59You're going to be Tony Robbins. This is my life. I'm accustomed to this. Of course I got this role. Of course I got this job. Of course I got this right. I'm prepared for it. You wouldn't even be surprised. Before you became the champ the first time, were you visualizing and imagining? I was 14. This is who I am. This is who I'm going to be. This is the guy. You have to be the champ before you be the champ. You understand? Does that make sense? Yeah. It doesn't really, because it sounds like you have to be him before you can be him. You can't just pop this by training and doing push-ups and knocking people out.

42:31This is, I'm the champ. No, you have to be the actual champ. Your conduct, your lifestyle has to be the champ before you actually wear the belt. Maybe that's better. You have to be the champ before you can even wear the belt. Wow. So you were saying, I'm going to be the champ. You were living like the champ. I would read books about them. That's all I did. I would read books about them, watch them fight. That's my life. If I wasn't in school and I wasn't training, I was watching them and reading about them. Watching the greats. Yeah. Wow. What's the best advice you ever got from a champion before you?

43:06I don't know. Most of them, the advice they used to give me about life, they said you have to live your own life. Because you can't live your life like me. I can't live my life like you, you know. And we're just all different. And some of them say, take care of your money, you know. They regret about that. Right. But I used to learn from a farce. A lot of these guys, I just watched the way they conduct themselves. They're always dignified, most of them. Unless some of them had some mental issues, or he had damage from boxing, they were a little bit outrageous. But other than that, most of them were very dignified and classy, man.

43:46Yeah. What was your biggest weakness when you were the champ for so long? As you were knocking guys out in the first round, first few seconds, what was the biggest weakness in your game and also in your life? I don't know. I think I was a glutton. I just wanted everything. Material things to win, women, this, everything. I just wanted everything, yeah. You wanted the world. Right now, no. That's only the one that... Now, I didn't want it yesterday. Tomorrow, I want it right now. now. It's instant. Wow. And if you can't give it to me, I don't want it no more. If I can't get it right now. Yeah, I don't want it no more.

44:23Yeah, anything I couldn't have, anything I couldn't have, I despise and hate it. Wow. Yeah, if I couldn't have that girl, I hate her less. Wow. Couldn't have that car. Those cars. Anybody that drive that car. Why do you think that was if you couldn't have it right now, you didn't like it anymore? Because I didn't need no distractions. Oh, wow. That make me feel anything that I'm less than immortal. Wow. Yeah. So if you couldn't get it right now, it made you feel less than immortal. Yeah. So you were like, get it out of my life. Exactly. Wow. What's the craziest thing you wanted that you got right now, that you were, like, demanding everything?

45:00And what did you, someone, I mean, what was, something flew in from Dubai overnight, and you got, like, a steak dinner from somewhere? I never thought about that. But I'm sure it was bizarre or something. Yeah. I want a tiger right now. Give me my tiger. That's just the mentality. That's just the way I was raised as a fighter to think existed. Because if you couldn't get it, it would distract you. Wow. Why can't I possess that? If I'm so great, why can't I possess that? Wow. It'll distract you from your goals in life. What do you think is your greatest weakness right now, this time of your life?

45:36I don't know. My friends and my kids and stuff, family. It's a weakness? Yeah, because people are losing so many people. They say, you know, he's dead, she's sick. My friend's mother just died yesterday. Everybody's so dying, everybody's so sad, and wow. You know? Yeah. Instead, you know, we should always look at death as something glorious, you know? Because, listen, life is very interesting. Listen, we got it for nothing. Look at what we received. We have kids, we have grandkids, all the stuff. You smile with your mother and father, and they saw each other and they, hey, we in love, we made love now that we're here.

46:15Look what we got. Look what you're doing. Look what you're just show. It's because these people were in love. You know what I mean? This is glorious. Yeah. For free. We have to pay anything to be here. Nothing. We can't get mad when it's our time to go. It's free. What do you think about with death? Death is beautiful. You know, how could life be beautiful, death is not beautiful? Because there wouldn't be life if there wasn't death. Wow. So death isn't something you're afraid of? At one stage in my life, you know. And then you reach 52, and you say, well, I'm not going to get another 52. Wow.

46:54And then you know, wow, what happened to that time? My whole perspective on life is different. My whole perspective is what I needed, what I wanted. That was all about what I needed, what I needed for someone else that I love, what am I leaving when I'm gone. It's really bizarre, right? When you have the actual confrontation aspect of your mortality is no longer existing. Huh. What do you think is your biggest superpower right now? Like your biggest strength? I think it's me who I am. my essence, my existence. When I'm no longer here, it doesn't no longer exist. Mm-hmm. How do you want to be remembered now?

47:42Just remembered. It doesn't matter how. Yeah. You know how many thousands of years are going to go by once I die? It's no longer, it's no longer matter. No one's going to remember that in a couple thousand years, yeah. So what's the biggest fear for you right now?

48:01You don't have any big fears right now?

48:08Besides, I wouldn't want kids getting sick. I want them to have a life like I had, to see the world like I've seen.

48:18I'm prepared to meet God, yeah. Wow. What was the biggest mentor you had when you were in jail? Was there anyone in jail that taught you anything? No. No one? I was just radical in jail. My mentor, I need to run it all. Really? Yeah. You were like, I'm going to run this whole place. Yeah. I want to be in control. I want to have my food brought to you. Wow. It's a mindset you get once you get put in that situation. I want to make a little mania in it. Wow. What was the biggest thing you learned about yourself during that time?

49:05I don't know. Back then I learned that I didn't want to be there. I was afraid. To be there? No, I was afraid that I lost everything. That I had at once. You lost all your money at one point, right? Yeah, but no, no, no, not that time. That time I still had money. When I was in prison, I still had money. It wasn't no bankruptcy or stuff, but I couldn't do nothing. So I would call my counselor, send money to her. If somebody needs money, I would still take care of my friends and their bills and stuff.

49:42But um... But you were afraid you lost everything else? Yeah. Like the titles, like the respect, or... No, no, just things you could have done if you didn't have this f***ing, what do you call it? Garbage money. What is this garbage here? You didn't have this garbage that you could have comped off. There's a lot of things, a lot of people just f*** it up. I said, oh, man. What do you think you could have accomplished had you not gone to jail? Really good stuff, but I've accomplished it when I came out. Right. And I still wasn't happy. It was just all in my mind. All the things I thought I could accomplish, and only if I didn't win the gym, it was just a hallucination in my mind.

50:32I went to jail, I still accomplished everything. It's not more than I thought I would accomplish. Because you came out and you still won the title. Yeah, it was just a... You made a bunch of money. It was just an illusion. You know, I was chasing an illusion. It was just, it never existed. But it was in my head. You know, it was in my head. I was getting revenge. For who? No one got you in jail with you. Who am I getting revenge on? It's in my head. You know. What happened to your life when you started studying spirituality more? I don't know. Spirituality is pretty tricky. You know. It's pretty much just letting it win.

51:09I guess imagine if it was like this. and then you realize I can make it like this. You know, spirituality, I don't know. It wipes everything. This is what spirituality is. It wipes everything that I ever believed and makes it a lie. Mm. You know? Mm. I mean, what did you use to believe that makes it a lie now? I believe just what everybody else had in need. Mm. Yeah. I believe that. Yeah, that's what I believe, you know? I believe all that crap. Wow. And everything then, so that's the paradigm shift. With everything you've been taught your whole life, and then it comes the time you realize it was a lie.

51:56Now, how do we start from there? Well, we live in a lie. Yeah. We have to make up our own lie and live in this lie. Mm-hmm. You know, it's going to take until you find, If you checked and tried to figure out to the day you die, you would never figure it out. It's based thousands and thousands and how many millions of lives and years of lives. And some people just dedicated their whole lives to try to figure out the lives and what this world's about. And they found out nothing. They have this big encyclopedia of mine about wonderful things in the history of the world and stuff, but we don't have to answer still.

52:38You know? It just was a beautiful ride. Just enjoy the ride. Yeah. Don't try to figure everything out. No way. It's a beautiful ride. We don't do that. That's human beings. We don't do that. We don't enjoy the ride. All right. Not right. We got to figure this out. This is not right. This is not. That's how we are. Do you think if you had. We would have spoiled something. Yeah, I know. Do you think if you had more peace in your heart, more love in your heart in your 20s, 30s, do you think you would have enjoyed the ride more? And do you think you would have been able to be successful in the Boston world if you had peace and love in your heart?

53:16I didn't know. All my life I read about the conquered Alexander, the great Genghis Khan, Charlemagne, all these crazy guys, Clovis. I read about these guys. You know what I mean? They declared themselves God. You know, it depends on, you think of great prophecy, to think of Jesus or Prophet Muhammad, that since part of the world in the time of Alexander the Great, he would eliminate them. They wouldn't exist anymore. Everything is proper timing, you know. In certain worlds, in certain times, they would never have existed. Wow. When do you think was the moment you started to feel more peace in your heart, like inner peace?

54:00I don't know. When I had the responsibility of just taking care of my family. That's when it shifted more? Yeah, after I tried to destroy it, it didn't work. And I said, well, I have to take care of this stuff. I have to really confront what am I going to do here. You know, and then I said, this is what I'm going to do. And I'm going to dedicate my life. And that was a mess, too. And then eventually, we have 10 years. You know, it worked out. We have a great day of respect for one another. Where do you think it'd be if you had no kids right now? I wouldn't exist. Really? No way. Where would you be?

54:37I don't know. Probably dead with AIDS or something. Really? Yeah, I wouldn't exist. Or maybe somebody would kill me for with their wife or girlfriend. You never know. Or else I'd be a junkie. Wow. Without a kiss. That's something that stable me. Wow. That's something that gave me any kind of meaning. I didn't kiss the world. I don't give a... Wow. Yeah, man, talk. Do you wish you would have had kids younger then, or? No, I wouldn't accomplish my goals. Uh-huh. Because everything's proper timing. Proper timing, yeah. Listen, you think you're playing checkers, and you think you're navigating your life, but you're not.

55:19Yeah. You know, you think you're, I know you say, why don't I just go out here and do some joking, and you're talking about my life up then, and Mike don't think I'm navigating my life up then. You're just not, you're not programmed to do that then. Yeah. And if you were programmed to do that, you were programmed to come back and rebound. Right. Your life is not meant to go there. It's just not meant to be. Wow. What do you think is the lesson you still want to learn for yourself? Like the challenge you want to overcome still, to make you a better person? I can't. I can never find that. Yeah. You know, because that lesson, that's the thing I want to realize is, why me?

55:51Why is this happening? I'm never going to figure it out. What's the question you wish you could have answered? Why is this who am I? Why is my purpose here? Yeah. You know? But I can make something. I can say my purpose is to be the best person I could possibly be before I die. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? That could be my purpose in life. See how far we can go in life before we die. Yeah. You know? But suppose people don't think in that perspective. That's what LL Cool J told me, because I'm talking some, I think I'm talking some glamorous. I'm talking some fly. And he was telling me on mic, you know, there's some people that live in the outskirts of Ohio or somewhere, and they just live simple lives, and that's all they want to do, Mike.

56:39Enjoy their life. What you talking about don't mean nothing, Mike. They just ready to die, ready to meet God, taking care of their kids, the people they love, who may go on a vacation. They may never go on a vacation or leave the town, but this is just a simple life. This is what makes them happy. Yeah. And they're really, really, I come to the place, If you're nothing, if you're something, you're nothing. Isn't that so shallow? If you're not something, you're nothing. What's my definition of something? Somebody with a motherfucking wad of money in their pocket? I have no concept of humanity. It's what life is.

57:16Does that mean I have a wad? I should be able to violate that person that doesn't? Wow. I don't know. Yeah. I'm lost again. Wow. I shouldn't have been trying to fix. We have to go with the flow. How did you learn to finally start forgiving yourself for? Oh, that, man, that happened, excuse my language. That must have happened yesterday or something. And that stuff, you just don't do that stuff overnight. It doesn't work like that. At least with me, it doesn't work like that. Took a long time to forgive yourself? Yeah, because I only, I know my demons. And I realize in life, everybody's You're gonna really find them out eventually.

57:58You think you're gonna hide that. It doesn't work that way. So you just started to forgive yourself on things? Pretty much. Or is it happening every day? You know, it comes around, yeah. Wow. I'm not gonna hate my. You did it's cool, man. God loves you. That's bull. I don't function. I don't think that. I don't think God leaves you to figure it out. You live it on yourself. If it's cool, it's cool. If it's not, it's not. You figure it out. Yeah. And what are you most proud of in your life that you've done? I don't know. I'm proud that I'm existing. Yes. I love to be alive. I know that makes sense.

58:35I'm proud to be alive and existing. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad-free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our Greatness Plus channel exclusively on Apple Podcasts. Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward.

59:15And I want to remind you, if no one has told you lately, that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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In this powerful episode, I bring together three extraordinary champions who share their insights on what it takes to develop an unshakeable mindset. We hear from boxing superstar Canelo Álvarez, who reveals who he thinks will win in a fight between Jake Paul and Mike Tyson, and how he's maintained his hunger for excellence across a 19-year career. Internet phenomenon turned boxer Jake Paul discusses his journey from Disney star to business mogul. And the legendary Mike Tyson opens up about the psychology of becoming and staying a champion. Each guest brings unique perspectives on mental toughness, self-belief, and the relentless pursuit of greatness. This masterclass in champion mindset delivers game-changing insights on what it really takes to reach the top of your field and stay there.

In this episode you will learn:

  • Who Canelo thinks will win a fight between Jake Paul and Mike Tyson, and who is a more difficult matchup for him
  • How true champions maintain their hunger and drive even after achieving massive success
  • Why developing the mindset of a champion must come before the external achievements
  • The power of proper timing and letting your path unfold naturally while maintaining focus
  • How to balance multiple ventures and optimize your time like a world-class performer
  • Why giving without expectation leads to greater long-term success and fulfillment

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