HUMAN DESIGN Explained — How to ALIGN With Your PURPOSE + MANIFEST Effortlessly

25:27By going into that, it worked out for me. So what I'm hearing you say is like, try to find the hidden gifts within you that maybe don't seem celebrated by others all the time. And it's risky. I say that lightly, but it's a huge risk because your mind, again, is going to say, no, but how are you ever going to support yourself on that? How are you ever going to make money? No one's going to think you're cool. Like, what are you doing? And to be honest with you, the fact that we even think there are certain guarantees is an illusion anyway to life. Right. So really, this is actually working with reality that everything is an unknown.

26:03Right. But it's really hard. And it's the daily practice of human design is like, again, like I said, your your design doesn't change. But every single day to listen to your gut on every single thing, it's hard. and you have to do it in new pockets of your life right and you have to relearn it and relearn it and get to another level with it and then refine so this mind thing of like are you sure are you're not crazy like when i first sat my parents down and told them i was closing my food business to read human design i mean i literally thought my highest aspiration would be like they wheel me out on the lottery with a wig and i read the lucky numbers it wasn't cool it wasn't a thing It was, this is eight, nine years ago now, right?

26:43So I took a chance on that random thing that I didn't know where it was going to lead me, right? And it's not the career choice that is going to take us far. It's how much we show up and be our most kind of actualized, present, powerful, capable, liking who we are along the way. Like that's the thing that's the magic in people, right? It doesn't actually matter what you're doing. You can make a fortune out of gardening if you do it the right way. Absolutely. If you get that zing with it, you know? Absolutely. Yeah, I think I saw one of your videos on Instagram, you're talking about like really leaning into your passion in terms of like being passionate about what you're doing and being excited about it because that unlocks new pathways, new doors for you when you're living into that.

27:25When we're doing something that I feel like we're skilled at, but we don't fully fall in love with, we're kind of in resistance still. Like, okay, yes, I have this talent over here, but my intuition is not telling me that it's what I want to do with my time. you know or maybe like I used to be really good at baseball for a long time but then when I turned 17 I just didn't have the the energy for it anymore I just didn't care enough about it to keep pursuing it and I started to pursue track and field and great things came out of that decision to leave something I had talent in to pursue something that I was more excited about yeah and I think it's learning how to trust like the timing of this as well when to do this what about in relationships you know how have you learned about what is a good relationship whether it be in business partnerships or career or an intimacy based on human design okay so people always ask about like are generators compatible with this or that or whatever now from a human design perspective if you have chemistry with somebody you're compatible you just need to learn the other person so that there is no me trying to change you or us trying to be on the same page or me misunderstanding the very innocent reasons why you do something that I'm thinking you're sitting down on that chair for a different motivation than you would be sitting down on that chair, right?

28:48So anybody's compatible with anybody if you're drawn to that person. For the time, for the exact amount of time, you still are drawn to that person, right? But if you can learn someone else's manual, for example, manifesting generators are very fast people, right? And so if you're with, if you're a projector who's with a manifesting generator to honor each other's different speeds, that already gets rid of so much friction, right? Or if you understand that somebody, for example, my mom, when I did a reading for my mom for the first time and I saw her main gift, everybody has one gift in their life that's their main thing they came here to do.

29:21When I saw her main gift was about kind of almost being a little bit abrasive and abrupt in order to shake people out of things so my mom would be the person who like she'll see someone wheeling a baby down the street and she's like put a hat on that baby you know and i always used to think that was like rude and inappropriate but in a way if you're doing it with the right consciousness that's obviously another thing like the way that you animate it there's a purpose for every single role that people play in society right and so when you know the reason why someone is the way they are you're not judging them anymore you're not thinking that they're wrong you're not trying to fit them in to be more like you.

29:54And what happens with our differences, if we know them, then I can actually vicariously enjoy yours through you when I'm not threatened by them. When I don't think that I have to be more like you or you have to be more like me. And I'm trying to think who's better or worse. So I'm like, isn't that so beautiful that your main gift is, you know, whatever it is. Well, I know what yours are. What is my main gift? So your main gift is number 36 and that's turning darkness into light. So a lot of the stuff that you're here to do is to pull out from the places that people don't necessarily look at or talk about and to bring them into awareness to um alchemize things that are maybe more negative into more positive things and then your secondary one and they play nicely together is really about bonding with people and breaking through barriers which i mean you clearly do i've known you for an hour you're very good at it right so those two things i know that i don't have to be them because you're really good at them and i'm good at other things.

30:48And then you actually just like literally you survive off seeing other people in their gifts. It takes so much fun, you know? So in relationships and in business partnerships, you can do the same thing where you're like, it's so cool how you do that. And yet there's no part of me that thinks I have to be the same way. So the harmony in that is like life-changing. I mean, you were essentially learning and studying human design for the last, what, eight or nine years, right? You're also in a relationship during that time at some point. So how did you, I think you were in a relationship for four years, you said.

31:23So how did you know when you're in the relationship, when there was alignment with the relationship versus, all right, there's not alignment? Or did you miss something in the relationship that you weren't following your own kind of wisdom, your own intuition? Okay. So my intuition is emotional, which means that we have to make decisions based on how things make us feel, like happy or sad, literally that black and white, right? So either we're up here or we're down here. And 50 % of the population is emotional, which is crazy. So what's your energy type? I'm a projector. Projector. Yeah. Okay. But my emotional intuition, what it says is, again, you don't need to understand with your mind why your intuition is telling you what it's telling you.

32:07That's where we trip up. Intuition, you just have to listen to it. Just trust it. Just trust it. Don't try to understand it. Don't try to understand it. So what our mind does, it comes in secondary and goes, these are the reasons why. And this is the logic. And this was this. And this is that. And it wasn't aligned. And he was this and that. That's all noise. That's why you hear a lot of women that say, he looked great on paper. Yeah. He had all the things that, and my parents thought this was awesome. The school he went to, where he worked. Everything seemed to line up. But I just didn't have something inside of me that wanted to come in.

32:40Right? Yeah. That's what a lot of women say, right? Yeah, it's making decisions with the mind rather than with the body. Why do so many people make the decisions with the mind rather than the body? Well, to get a little bit historical on you, if you think about where humanity has been for the last couple hundred years, right? It has been a lot of top-down sort of control. And a population is easier to convince you all to go to war and to, you know, do certain things. if this is the logic we all have to agree on the logic there's one objective reality let's all get on the same page rather than there is no objective reality we're all just here bumping up against each other doing our random things that's a nightmare right for a society some order and some organization somewhere right yeah but when you think about it then the people who are in government are supposed to be the people who are very good at coming up with common laws they're very good people who are being balanced, who are being fair, who come up with how people interact and come together, but giving people their freedom.

33:42So when you're trying to suppress a culture with a religious homogenized belief, then there is this thing that we all, that is logic that gets handed down to us, that you have to do what makes sense to other people. And that's how you get your love and belonging from the tribe is by justifying that what you're doing is for the same reasons that everyone else would want to do the same things. So how can women specifically make better decisions in choosing the right male partner for them if they want to choose a male partner? How can women choose better in relationships? This is going to sound a little crazy, but one of the other big conditionings that we have is that we have to make the right decision that we ensure is going to make our relationship last forever, and that's a good relationship.

34:29what you actually want from that is to feel the most amount of love right you want to be in love and in the energy of love every single day of your life so from that perspective whether that changes 20 times or once doesn't really matter so for me that relationship was correct for as long as it lasted because it grew the amount of love i had in my life until my emotions started telling me otherwise and am i better off because of that relationship am i more open-hearted because of that relationship am i more um happy with who i am yes right so that was not a terrible relationship that was life showing me that was a perfect amount for it to last okay so a big thing to get rid of is i have to know how my future is going to look in order for me to be happy actually you just need to be happy today and then your tomorrow will start off better and that will compound and then it doesn't matter about the form that it takes because the inside is going to be more actualized more evolved more in love more open-hearted more all the things that we actually want right absolutely so it comes from kind of letting go of this guarantee to micromanage how the life is going to unfold for you to think of how it needs to look for you to be happy and to do the happiness today and then to trust that that's what activates the rest of the work than 90 % of the unseen forces kind of coming together to make things happen the way that we can't engineer, like opportunities, synchronicities, meeting people out of nowhere, stuff that we couldn't even do if we were the best minds in the planet, right?

36:06You know, there's something to choosing to being positive and happy and grateful for certain elements of your life and trying to maximize that. Because when we maximize that energy, synchronicities unfold, right? These unseen forces for good show up in our life, or they block us from something bad essentially happening, right? Or they move us in a different direction. But why do you think there are certain people who seem to have it all, but are still choosing to be untappy and not choosing to be grateful for what they have? They're complaining or feeling entitled for what they don't have? Why do you think that happens?

36:49I think that's one of those things where there's many different causes for one symptom, right? So on the outside, this person you're saying is ungrateful or unhappy. The number one reason I would say is that if you haven't liked who you've become along the way of getting to what you want, then that's never going to be a happy result, right? You can't get to joy if you don't pave it along the way with feeling like you love being who you are. And you've probably been in situations like this in your life before where maybe things are hitting the fan, but you still love the fact that you have your own back through it.

37:28And there's this incredible piece of like, okay, well, we're on this adventure of life. The soul wants to experience everything. Let's lean into this knowing that I think I'm going to make sure that I'm okay. Right? And that weirdly transforms even the most negative experiences into these fascinations. And I think if you don't know how to do that, then that's already a big, that really takes away from your happiness. The second thing is also that, again, the brain is addicted to finding something to focus on. And it could be being focused on creativity. But when it's turned inwards, it's going to look for problems.

38:04It's going to look for unhappiness. That's what's going to happen when you let it run amok in an area that it's not supposed to run amok in. And the third one is, I think, is an addiction that we're being programmed with from the outside conditioning of, you know, you should find reasons to be unhappy. Or you grew up around people who were that way and you need to decondition from that automatic pattern that, again, like you were saying in the beginning with your parents that condition you. Even if they weren't doing it on purpose, it's passed down until you have to be the one that says, you know what, let me not just decide to be rid of it, but let me practice being rid of it today.

38:37How would I move through my day when I catch this thing come in and I go, uh-uh, uh-uh, what else would I do instead? And you might feel like an imposter the first time you do it because it's not going to feel natural. But even if you can just flex it slightly, the universe goes, oh, look who's trying to be more than selves. Let me go help this person out. what was the thing you had to decondition over the last 10 years that was running your life the most i think the emotional piece is a really big piece and this is like i said to you 50 of the population are what's called emotional beings so you're what's called non-emotional meaning when you're by yourself you're cool calm and collected it's only when the world comes to you or when people come to you or a situation comes to you you feel a certain way when you're emotional you can wake up and be happy and feel on top of the world same exact situation the next day and you feel totally different and for me i was really brought up when i was in a low mood what's wrong with you why are you upset smile don't be a sport brat you know those i'm english right so don't be a sport brat.

39:43And for me, it was a real judgment about having negative emotions. And I still struggle with it today. I'm not rid of it by any stretch of the imagination. I just am more aware of it. So I have levity around when I'm doing it to myself. Gotcha. So you're emotional. I'm non-emotional. You're non-emotional. So explain that again, someone who's emotional versus non-emotional. Yeah. So you don't generate your own emotions. You are like a mirror and a sponge to the world around you. So this actually, when we talk about people who are empaths, we really are talking about in a strict version, we're talking about non-emotionals because you're able to feel what I'm feeling.

40:18Because I have my own emotional rollercoaster going on, I'm actually not able to viscerally tap into your emotions. As an emotional person. As an emotional person. Non-emotional person. I can understand your emotions. You can feel my emotions. That resonates. I feel like I can feel everyone's energy. Yes. And something that I saw on your Instagram when you were talking about empaths, you said we shouldn't be absorbing, we should be observing. Yes. That's something you said recently. Don't absorb others' emotions, observe. Observe, yes. And I think that's interesting because empaths take on the weight of anyone around them.

40:53Yeah. And they feel it and they feel emotionally drained where they have no energy if they absorb it. Yeah. So it's learning to notice someone's energy and still be empathetic, but don't absorb it, right? Observe. Yes. Connect. Don't let it penetrate your energy center. Don't let it penetrate your soul to where you're now in that state of being as well. Yeah. That's a hard thing for a lot of people who are in that non-emotional empath state of being. Yeah, it is. And it's an interesting one to understand that, you know, when you're not absorbing my stuff, you would be able to show me what I'm feeling because I'm so might in it, I have no idea what's going on some of the time.

41:35so you would magnify and be able to show me what's going on with me if you're not then taking it on so let's say for example i'm an emotional i wake up and let's say i'm happy today i'm two out of ten happy okay ten out of ten happy you said i let's say for example i'm two oh two out of ten you're not happy because it goes on it goes on a scale right so let's say one day i'm on a two out of ten i walk in the room and i see you six out of ten happy i'm like you look happy today and you've become happy because you felt what i've done and you've magnified it right and that's beautiful, but I can see it more clearly through you than I can through me.

42:07Got it. But that also works on the other side too, where a lot of non-emotionals get called the most emotional people. Because if I walk in the room, two out of 10 sad. Two is a, one is the high, sad? One is less. Like let's say two out of 10. Okay. 10 is the highest. Gotcha. So let's say I'm two out of 10 sad that day. Okay. I walk in the room, you all of a sudden get in a bad mood and I'm like, what's wrong with you? Why are you in a bad mood? And you don't know. Cause you, it wasn't there before I walked in right you're just able to reflect to me what i'm not even aware of interesting if we have that languaging then i can be like thank you so much for showing me what was going on with me today and instead of going what's wrong with you right because you guys are the are the open right you're the open emotional and so you feel whatever else is going on in the world interesting and we're just like playing our own songs completely unaware i wonder what my uh fiance is she's i can't remember if she's a manifestor.

43:01I think she's a non-specific manifestor. I don't know if that's a thing, but maybe it's manifestor generator. But she's positive 90 % of the time. She is in a positive, joyful, grateful state consistently. It's very rare for her to be low. Low energy. Which really is nice for me. Because I think I've always in the past been in relationships where I didn't know what I was going to get. and it was harder for me because I would absorb energy and I would shield it and I would allow it to drain me. Now I've learned how to observe differently and just accept people for where they're at and be there for them in a different way as opposed to taking on their pain and sorrow and trying to like fix it.

43:45That was a wound that I had to learn how to heal. But being in a relationship with someone who is truly grateful for life, that truly loves her life is a joy. It is like a gift that I hope everyone can experience at some point because it's challenging to be with someone that isn't a happy person consistently. It just is. And it's hard to be with someone for years who you don't know how to help them become happier. And that's something that I experienced because I chose based on a wound and nothing wrong with them, but just felt like it was always harder because they weren't happy. Yeah. And so I hope everyone can get to that state.

44:31You just unlock more when you are a generally happier person. But I feel like a lot of people struggle with happiness. A lot of people suffer and struggle with feeling worthy of happiness, of learning how to believe they're a good person, of believing they're enough. Why do you think we struggle so much with being happy and how can we learn to love ourselves deeper so that we are happier? I love that question. So I think there's two different kinds of levels of happiness. So for example, I could be in a low mood today, but still be so fulfilled and almost loving watching that process of waking up just being more like meh today.

45:13But that meh state can mean like, still fine you know what i mean so there's two there's almost like one that's like the bottom of the ocean that's like your core fulfillment joy to be alive like grateful like oh my god this is like this is an adventure you know what i mean like let me just observe what's going on today and it's all interesting and all beautiful and so amazing right that level of happiness i think really comes from being who you're supposed to be you know and being happy with who you are and almost feeling like you're doing what brings you the self-esteem, the fulfillment, the giving and receiving in the way that you're supposed to, right?

45:48I think when you give to the world in a way that you feel like there is an abundance more coming from it, it changes your whole worldview because you're like, there's so much more where that came from. I'm so happy to serve. I love giving to people. I love seeing how I get received when I give to people. It kind of is like the genie wishing for one wish and then you get tons more back, right? When you're tapped into like, this is I'm in my magic. So then I don't just know that I'm special from here, but I feel that I'm special every single day because I know that I have something I've cultivated and given energy to that I really feel like is me.

46:20It's like my home frequency. I can come back to my base of what my value add is in this world. Right. So I think that's number one is like, there's so much deeper levels of happiness that are available to you. If you can break away from constantly telling yourself you have to be like everybody else, constantly trying to get the love and belonging the kind of short-term cookies you can kind of forgo them and put the put the sort of time in to take the risk to get it from the sort of longer term value giving people value rather than what can i get out of life so quickly those cookies are so good cookies are so good in a moment just oh man i love those cookies but there's so much there's so much greater benefit when you can delay or at least not every day have to go for the cookies.

47:02I'm not saying never enjoy it, but as a metaphor, just not going for the pleasure every single day. Really going for a state of long-term happiness and fulfillment. Comes down to making yourself proud of who you are, I think. And that feeling is not replaceable by any other thing, I don't think. That's true. I think when you're like, I really am happy, almost like your inner parent being like, you know what? That was a hard decision, but really, I'm impressed with you. I think that is the ultimate, if you want to be happy, you make yourself proud of you. 100%. When was the time in the last decade you were the least proud of you and at your lowest energy state?

47:42I think the ending of that relationship was very difficult for me because another thing that I was really conditioned with, my mom is Indian and my parents have been married forever. And one of the things I really was conditioned with is that it's if a relationship goes well you've done well like it's your job as a woman to make a good relationship and so you fail you're the failure if you don't make it work wow that was a big one for me so that was a really really hard time of being like am i am i defected as a woman am i not desirable enough did i not do enough was i not more malleable should i have you know been more flexible or rolled down more, you know, whatever, all those different stories that you can create.

48:29I think that was a really big one for me. But I don't think I would have undone that conditioning if I hadn't gone through that experience. Wow. So you felt like you were a failure with the relationship ending. Yeah. I felt like it was on me. I think a lot of women go through that too. Really? I think they feel responsible for making a relationship go well. Where do you, I mean, there's something to be said for, you know, people who are in relationships, relationships for decades that are like, listen, we had some hard seasons, some hard years. And we could have easily just said, you know what?

49:02This isn't working or some bad stuff happened. And we should have left. But we decided to stay together. And we're so grateful 10, 20, 30 years later that we did because every relationship has some seasons. But then there's also like, I see that point of view, but then I'm also like, okay, if your body is rejecting something and it's telling you this is not working and I'm giving it my all and I'm trying and we're going to therapy and you're really trying to commit to make it work but it's you're rejecting it and it's just a disconnect I also see the benefit and the value and consciously uncoupling and saying listen we got to go this isn't working yeah let's take some time and maybe we come back together in the future yeah and I don't think there's a right or wrong either way 100 % I don't it's like you're a failure if you didn't go through all the hard times and go for 30 40 years and make it out beautiful holding hands as like 90 year olds on the other side because you can also be together for a long time and be miserable you know it's like and there's a lot of probably indian families that just stay together even though they don't fully love and have a fullness of life yes right i'm sure you see both completely and that's the thing and i love that you've touched on this because that's the thing about human design is that we're always trying to look for always tough it out or leave the second you're ready but actually everyone's on a different path so that advice isn't going to work for everybody and you know you're kind of i guess well predisposed to seeing this because you're very open in your chart i had a look at you're very open in your mind so it is always about kind of not having your fixed opinions on things it's always about saying yeah i could see that maybe sure i don't know could be wrong could be right let's see right and that's one of your gifts and i think that's one of the things is that we're always trying to find the right way to do life and then wronging everybody else who's not fitting into that directive.

50:52Instead of saying, we are all on radically different journeys. Journeys no one else can ever even come close to understanding. So us, again, using our mental energy on trying to find some kind of system that makes us all be on the same thing or same level of understanding or same goal, it's just a moot exercise, you know? And I think that the challenge or the opportunity we all get to face is are we going to live our life trying to please everyone else based on our decisions or lack of decisions or feeling guilty and bad and wrong for decisions we make that others don't approve of. Yeah. Because it's really hard to make decisions if we're thinking, why do I want people to be upset at me?

51:35Yeah. And I did that for a long time. I stayed in relationships too long that I shouldn't have. I got out of stuff that I probably shouldn't have because I was worried about the opinions of others. Yeah. So you felt like you were in a low part at the end of that relationship because you felt like a failure. I felt like I wasn't being my best self. Really? Yeah, I felt like it wasn't bringing out the best in me and therefore I shamed myself for that because it's not good to feel like you're not happy with how you're being, right? Yeah. And also, yeah, I really had to contend with, like, if I end this, then am I stupid?

52:08Am I making a really bad decision? because again, like you were saying, he's great on paper. We're good enough together. My whole family loves him. He's successful. He's this, he's that. He's nice to me. He's the whatever it is. Yeah, all that stuff, you know. What was telling you like this isn't in alignment or this isn't the right thing for me right now? What was telling you, was it your intuition? Was it your gut? Was it just like you didn't feel like you were in your purpose or your joy? How were you able to know that, okay, I'd given this enough time and the season is ready to move on to the next thing.

52:42Yeah. I think I can come up with a lot of logical reasons for you. But I think ultimately if I watch myself and net-net, my emotional state was more negative than positive. In the relationship. Towards the end. So then that kind of tells you, again, it's like the body knows, right? Like it just, it's so tangible. We just need to watch ourselves as if from above and say, does this person look like a thriving, does it look like it's suiting you or not? and you don't need to be able to explain it away. On a more, I guess, on a more logical level, I went in with certain roles that I played that were, again, if we're always trying to be who we came here to be, they weren't ultimately part of who I was, right?

53:25They weren't serving you. Yes. Or your future you, your highest you. Yes, yes. So you went in playing certain roles in a relationship and then you realized this isn't sustainable, this isn't me. so it was kind of like your responsibility yeah for being those roles because you were almost completely inauthentic in a sense right and those are my cookies look how good of a girlfriend i am look how supportive i am look you know what i mean the cookies are sometimes a little hidden like that right it's like look how much i'm helping this person be successful that's so much more easier than trying to be successful on my own interesting right so from i mean i don't know anything about the relationship but if i was in that i'd be like wow okay this person this is who this person is they're showing up in this way and now they're trying to be something different it might be confusing very for the guy oh no very so it's beyond right he's probably like wait a minute you were super supportive and now something is shifting and now you're trying to be this other thing that's not you know who are you oh i played such a good trophy wife and i was good at it like you said like with the previous sport like i was good at it right so you can't blame you have to I think ultimate self-responsibility gives you ultimate power over your own life.

54:32You absolutely, everything is for your own movie. So it's always I, I, I, I, I. I played the good role. I played the thing. And therefore, I got out of it what I put in. Right. It doesn't matter about who the character is that I was playing with. I would have played that character on whoever it was. For anyone, until you learned the lesson. Exactly. That this wasn't, I mean, maybe it's like, okay, I can be this sometimes, but this is not the role I'm supposed to be playing in my life right now. Is that what it sounds like? Mm-hmm. This is interesting. But here's the other interesting thing. You've been studying human design for, I guess, three to five years by that point already.

55:05So what were you not listening to with your own study and practice of human design? Yes. What was your human design telling you to do that you were directly going against? this is really interesting i think the emotional piece again actually with us because i was so suppressing my own um my joy and my sadness you were suppressing it suppressing why were you suppressing joy because um i think england is a little different than america you know you can't be too there were certain situations where i felt like and therefore was told but that's because i felt like it right that's why it actualized in the outside world you can't just you can't just drink tea at midnight and just be dancing on the on the table by yourself like you know have some alcohol fit in like sit down and be cool and have conversations and you know I I felt this like want to be kind of like you know unboundedly joyful for no reason that I suppressed and I also suppressed tears right because you're because friends or society in England was like oh don't be too happy like you're wacky that's crazy yeah relax a little bit yeah you can't and when you were emotional or crying, they're like, what are you crying for?

56:17They couldn't take it either way, these dreams. It's kind of keep it in the middle of this, not service-y, but kind of not fully authentic way of being, is what I'm hearing you say. At least the people you're with or the places you're around. So you were surprising both emotions. Yes. To be more acceptable. To be more accepted or fit in. Interesting. To try to belong. Yes. But you weren't being fully authentic or vulnerable. No. And so you weren't actually belonging at all because you weren't belonging to yourself. And if you take it in this frame, like you're asking me, the emotion is your motor center as an emotional being, right?

56:59When you're an emotional being, emotions are your power center. It comes from your solar plexus, right? And you took it away. So when you take that away, firstly, you have less energy. Second of all, you can't make decisions, the correct decisions in your life. And you're suppressing all of your life force from directing your life forward so if you imagine okay there was already certain things that were supposed to be in play to move my life forward for me from the universe just like there is for all of us you're literally holding them back from just instead of just letting them unleashing them right letting your destiny move through you right because you're just holding yourself back because you're saying this is not a good way to be i don't want to be this way i don't want to be an emotional being okay so you're you're constricting all of that life was inside instead of letting it out.

57:40Wow. So then you stay small. And you don't use your voice. That's all. You didn't feel like you used your voice at all? Not until the end, and then I think I'd suppressed it so much that it came out completely, how do you put this, disproportionate. You know, when you keep so many things inside? Extreme. Yeah, you say something, well, not even extreme, but you say I'm not happy, and someone's like, what do you mean you're not happy? It's come out of nowhere. You seem happy the last few years. And that's unfair to do on a person. Instead of communicate along the way of, I feel sad today and I don't know why and it's nothing to do with you, but I just need my space to be sad.

58:21That's what emotions need to be doing. There's no rhyme or reason sometimes when you feel really teary or you feel like, I have a different emotional wave to other people. Different sizes, different behaviors, different patterns of emotions. Mine is kind of sad and happy, sad and happy. Like, I feel teary, and then I want to dance down the street. Within, like, a moment. It's a day-to-day, I'd say. Okay, gotcha. And then other people, you know, when they are really low, and these are people who often get diagnosed as being, you know, manic or bipolar or whatever, there's just some people who have so much creative emotional power in them.

58:59Think about people who've moved the world through a song about a breakup, right? When they're in that songwriting process, They need to remove themselves and be away from people and mire in that sadness so fully because it creates something inside them. But instead, if they're like, no, put on a brave face and go out there and be with people and hide that, it's saving. It's basically muffling all of that creative power inside them. Right. Low and high emotions is what makes a human experience worth living. If everything was just neutral, there'd be no point in being here. Right. So the emotionals color life.

59:34But we also need to be mindful of how much we allow other people like you to understand it's not about you if I'm sad today. And if I come to you and I say, I'm really sad today, can I cry? And then you hold my hand, that makes us bond more. And you know it's not about you, right? And so it creates deeper intimacy when people are okay with their emotions, right? And sharing them. Yeah, 100%. What do you think are the keys to manifesting? I think there's a couple. firstly did you manifest it or did the universe give you the sign of what to want because that's what it was trying to send you or get you to go towards in the first place right is it your voice or is it the universe's voice inside you how do you know well yeah that's the number one thing and i think the second thing about manifesting is there's a difference between manifesting a chocolate cake okay versus manifesting your purpose your destiny your soulmates your life partners, things that are like really your things that were always supposed to be yours and always supposed to come to you.

1:00:37I think it's almost egotistical to say you manifested them. Or maybe they just need to be different words. Did you put the amount of energy into the right things and grow your consciousness to a level that you were able to then get those things? If that's what you want to call manifesting, those are the things. And in which case, it's okay to want anything, including money, if it comes from your soul. and you almost can't explain why you want that thing. If you're going after something you think you want because it's going to give you something else, then that's a short circuit because you might get it.

1:01:07But then, like you said, it might not stay or you might not be fulfilled during it. So I think you can manifest anything, but you may as well manifest those things that your soul really wants rather than the things that you think you should be manifesting or from an ego place. How do we know when it's a soul desire versus an ego desire that we want to manifest something? I think an ego desire is I want it because it's going to give me something else, like a secondary thing, or because I think I will like myself more or my parents will like me more when I want to, or I'll be more impressive to others, like you were saying about making other people happy, that kind of stuff.

1:01:42in which case if you really want to make your parents happy and that's a true desire from inside and you really feel this yearning from within that you don't even know why you want your parents to be happy maybe that was your karma of your life then just ask for that don't short circuit it by asking for the thing that you think is necessary for you to get that end result just ask for the end result and let the universe fill in the details you know but i think when it comes from your soul you can't explain why you want it you just it's just this drive of like and you know i tell people you can see in people's design people who are motivated by money their soul just wants money or their soul just wants fame or wants to be recognized or wants to be seen there's nothing inherently evil or wrong about those things right because for example your soul might make you want money so that you move into the house that's next door to the person that you had the greatest karma to heal with we don't know what leads to what so it's not good to like judge them by certain things are good to want or bad to want.

1:02:39But if you want them from a true purpose reason, it's coming from inside you and you can't explain why you want it or what you think it's going to give you. You just know you want it. This has been inspiring. Human design, the revolutionary system that shows you who you came here to be. I want you guys to make sure to get a copy of the book. Go to the app, myhumandesign.com, or you can go to myhumandesign on the app store as well to learn more about your energy type, the gifts that you have, and the roadmap that you should be taking in your life to live more fully, more authentically, and allow flow to come into your life.

1:03:17Make sure you guys get a copy of this. The universe has a plan for you, and human design is here to help you find it. So if you feel like you're not sure what's happening in your life, you feel stuck, you feel it's not clear, this could be a great place for you to get more clear on your unique blueprint and how to follow the roadmap. You're also on social media yourself, Jenna Zoe on Instagram, my.humandesign on Instagram as well, and the book myhumandesign.com slash book. This is a question I ask everyone towards the end of my interviews. It's called the three truths. So imagine a hypothetical scenario.

1:03:55It's the last day on earth, many years away. You get to live as long as you want to live. and you get to create and manifest all of the things that your human design tells you you're supposed to do. But for whatever reason on this last day, you have to take everything with you, the book, the app, the content, everything you've ever said or shared is gone from this world. But you get to leave behind three lessons to the world, three things you know to be true. And this is all we have to remember you by are these three truths. What would that be for you? believe in every natural inclination inside you you don't understand all those random things about you that you think are unacceptable uncool nothing is in you by accident so take a chance on those random small uncool things stretch yourself a little bit every day to make yourself more proud of yourself, nothing will give you the self-esteem than feeling like you cultivated more of yourself and shared it with people every day.

1:05:02That's beautiful. That's beautiful. Before I ask the final question, Jenna, I want to acknowledge you for your courage to take on this journey for your life. And because you've taken on this journey for your life, you're able to help and inspire and impact so many more people than lacking the courage, than staying stuck or staying in a stagnant place in your life. You've opened yourself up to serve more, and that's really beautiful. So I'm grateful for you for leaning into this gift of yours, to this weird uniqueness of yours inside of you, and taking the steps toward it. It's been really inspiring to learn more about you, to connect with you today, to hear about the work you're doing with human design and the tens of thousands of people every day who are tapping into the information within them through your work.

1:05:55So I'm really grateful for what you're doing. Before I ask the final question, is there anything else on your heart or mind that we missed that you feel like we should be talking about today? That you feel like if the audience really heard that it would support them on a different level? How much time you got? I'm kidding. one of the things I think I'm seeing a lot of recently is a lot of questioning our worth a lot of sitting on our couch trying to find our problems sitting on our couch trying to feel worthy sitting on I think a lot of it is that you flexing yourself out in the real world is what will give you the feedback that you are worthy that will give you the feedback that you are not you know you're not your trauma going out and playing with matter with the fabric of life is what changes us you know rather than trying to meditation is amazing and you know visualizing and all those things are wonderful but there's a true alchemy in let me this whole thing is set up here for you to dance with right and i think there's a real powerful thing in reframing action is push, push, push, grab, grab, grab, then just like, let me see with all this stuff.

1:07:08Like, what can I do with it? You know? And that's when you really learn about what you're capable of is when you see yourself be it. And that's so healing, I think. So not just sitting in your room, asking yourself, am I worthy, but going out and living life and experiencing it and playing with the magic of life. Yeah. And so that you can see your worthiness come out of you. So you can see, oh, I actually do like how good of a person I am to this person. I actually do like seeing myself come out of this effortless gift that comes out of me. And I do see that not everyone has it. And, oh, so maybe it is there, right?

1:07:38Because again, if you're sitting at home, it's only through your mind that you're understanding it. You're not living it through feeling it in your cells, you know? Absolutely. There's a difference. That's beautiful. Final question. What's your definition of greatness? taking everything that is yours to begin with and turning it into an expression that you love yeah thank you so much appreciate you i hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links and if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our greatness plus channel exclusively on Apple podcasts, share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple podcasts as well.

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