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Episode Title
The #1 Reason You're Not Succeeding In Life [MASTERCLASS] EP 1430
Episode Overview In this episode, Lewis Howes explores the concept of success through the perspectives of two distinguished guests: Simon Sinek, an acclaimed author and motivational speaker, and Nicole Lynn, a successful sports agent. The discussion emphasizes the importance of mindset, goal-setting, and the journey toward greatness rather than simply focusing on end goals.
Key Guests
- Simon Sinek: Best known for his ideas on leadership and motivation; focuses on building a better future through collaboration.
- Nicole Lynn: One of the youngest female sports agents in the industry, recognized for her business acumen and determination.
Main Themes
- Mindset and Self-Confidence
- Mindset shapes our perception of success and fulfillment.
- Self-confidence is often built through external validation rather than solely from within.
- Relationships play a crucial role in building self-confidence, as they provide support and encouragement.
- The Importance of the Journey
- The journey towards achieving goals is more important than the goals themselves.
- Many people struggle with self-doubt and negative self-talk when they fail to achieve set targets.
- Goal Setting and Reframing Objectives
- Setting clear, achievable goals is essential for success.
- Reframing goals to focus on smaller, incremental achievements can help maintain motivation and reduce feelings of inadequacy.
- Mindset Shift: From Finite to Infinite Thinking
- A finite mindset is focused on winning and beating competition, while an infinite mindset emphasizes growth, relationships, and contribution to a larger cause.
- Success should be seen as a continuous journey, not a destination.
Key Takeaways
- Self-Confidence Development: Build confidence through relationships; support others to aid in overcoming self-doubt.
- Living in the Present: Embrace the process rather than fixating on the end goal. Celebrate small victories.
- Service and Relationships: Focus on helping others, which can inadvertently boost your own confidence and sense of purpose.
- Goal Framing: Break down larger goals into smaller, manageable tasks to enhance the likelihood of success.
- Embracing the Journey: Rather than solely chasing outcomes, appreciate each step of the process as valuable.
Pivotal Moments
- Discussion on the etymology of the word "confidence," suggesting that it implies trust with others, reinforcing the idea that confidence is built in relationships.
- Sinek emphasizes that true self-confidence comes from the support and belief of others rather than an inner monologue.
- Lynn shares a personal experience of realizing that success does not always correlate with happiness, stressing the importance of enjoying the journey.
Actionable Insights
- Daily Practices: Focus on daily actions that align with your larger goals; create a structured approach to achieving tasks.
- Mindset Exercises: Engage in self-reflection to identify limiting beliefs and replace them with supportive affirmations derived from trusted relationships.
- Goal Adjustments: Regularly assess and adjust goals based on progress and experiences, focusing more on personal growth than strict metrics.
Conclusion The episode ultimately reminds listeners that greatness is not merely about achieving goals but about cultivating a mindset that values the journey, supports others, and embraces continuous growth. The insights from Sinek and Lynn provide a roadmap for redefining success and fostering deeper connections in both personal and professional realms.
Additional Resources
- Order Lewis Howes' new book, The Greatness Mindset, for practical exercises and tools to cultivate a positive mindset.
- Listen to the full episode and access more resources at [The School of Greatness](http://www.lewishowes.com/1430).
Feel empowered to reflect on your journey, embrace the present, and pursue your own greatness with the insights gained from this episode.
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Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00My friend, I am such a big believer that your mindset is everything. It can really dictate if your life has meaning, has value, and you feel fulfilled, or if you feel exhausted, drained, and like you're never going to be enough. Your mindset is everything. And our brand new book, The Greatest Mindset, just hit the New York Times bestseller back-to-back weeks. And I'm so excited to hear from so many of you who've bought the book, who've read it, and have finished it already, and are getting incredible results from the lessons in the book. If you haven't got a copy yet, you'll learn how to build a plan for greatness through powerful exercises and toolkits designed to propel your life forward.
0:39This is the book I wish I had when I was 20, struggling, trying to figure out life. 10 years ago at 30, trying to figure out transitions in my life. And the book I'm glad I have today for myself. Make sure to get a copy at lewishouse.com slash 2023 mindset to get your copy today. Again, lewishouse.com slash 2023 mindset to get a copy today. Also, the book is on Audible now, so you can get it on audiobook as well over there also. But it's not about winning. It's not actually about the goal. And so when we beat ourselves up because we miss an arbitrary number by an arbitrary date, and even if you hit the goal, the problem is...
1:20Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin.
1:44Welcome to this special masterclass. We brought some of the top experts in the world to help you unlock the power of your life through this specific theme today. It's going to be powerful. So let's go ahead and dive in.
2:01I believe self-doubt is one of the biggest killers to anyone's dreams. Yeah. So how does someone develop self-confidence and sustain it with the ever-going changes and stresses and uncertainties that always come up? Yeah. Once you reach a certain level, there's a new uncertainty. Yeah. So I think it's ironic that we call it self-confidence. Because I don't, for one, think it comes from the inside. I think our self-confidence comes from the outside. You mean that's the wrong way of going about it, or you think that's where it comes from in general? We are being misdirected by the name. When we say build your self-confidence, the instruction is saying go inside.
2:44Look inside oneself. But I think that's a false direction. Children aren't born self-confident. their confidence is built from their parents and their friends and their teachers where they're rewarded when they do well and they're pushed when they fail when they can do better simply you know what we know this that simply telling kids that they're great all the time actually doesn't build self-confidence actually does the total opposite right and I for one I can tell you my in my own experience my own self-confidence a hundred percent comes from the relationships that I have it's not some deep internal fortitude you know a world-famous trapeze artist is not gonna try a brand new death-defying act for the first time without a net so it's the people in my life it's it's when I do doubt myself that somebody says, you got this.
3:52When somebody says, I believe in you. When somebody says, no matter what happens, whether it succeeds or fails, I'm going to be by your side. That's when I have the confidence to do difficult things. Wow. I don't have some natural battery that just... Right. That to me is bravado. I don't know that self-confidence. You know, being a huge risk taker is not an indication of self-confidence to me. Jumping out of a plane and jumping out of a plane with a parachute are two different things. To me, self-confidence is measured and there should be a degree of doubt. But I think true self-confidence, belief in oneself and belief in one's cause, I could not do the things that I'm doing.
4:44and I would not have the strength to have made the sacrifices that I've made or continue to wake up on a daily basis to drive to spread this message if I were alone. And so when we talk about building one's self-confidence, I think the mistake that we make is that we look inside. I think the reality is when we try to build our self-confidence, we should be looking to our friends. We should be nursing our relationships. When I'm looking to build my self-confidence, the question is, who around me do I need to take care of? you know the way we build our self confidence is by helping somebody else build theirs it's an act of we will build our confidence with an act of service so I'll tell you a true story so I did an experiment I love doing experiments in my own life you know I have mad thoughts I'm like well let's try let's try this one out so I have a very dear friend who has stuck with me through thick and thin who she is absolutely profoundly one of the reasons that I am who I am today right and I have my confidence in large part because of her right she's one of a small group of people who I look at and say mm-hmm yep yep good friend right she was struggling like seriously struggling oh let me take a step back so we decided that we were gonna she look she was she was struggling she goes and she was going through some hard hard things in her life career wasn't going the way she wanted her personal relationship was struggling there was a there was a lot of she was lacking confidence there was a lot of rough she was lacking confidence yeah and we would get together on a regular basis and I would attempt to coach her you know and she'd feel great for the hour after she left me and then it would very quickly go back to normal and we'd get back together and I would coach her and she felt great for the hour after she left me and then it would go back to normal and I wouldn't I can't say that there was some profound change being made in her life so I had a harebrained idea I went to her and I said I need your help I said I'm struggling I don't have a coach that I that I love and trust you've known me for years I trust you with you know with everything I feel unbelievably safe around you I can you put together a program and can you coach me I think you're good at it and I it wasn't reciprocal It was an I'll coach you, you coach me.
7:09I said, it's just I need your help because I'm struggling. It was legit. It wasn't like I was just making stuff up. You were stressed. It was legit. I could do with the help and I trusted her to help me. And something profound started to happen. Over the course of just a few weeks, it wasn't even a few months, but over the course of a few weeks, she started to gain way more confidence. Her career started to really move in a more positive direction. Her relationship firmed up. and the more that she was in service to me, the more that she grew herself. So I think self-confidence, I wish we didn't call it self-confidence because like I said, I think it gives a false direction.
7:45The way we build confidence
7:50is with. You know, con means with, doesn't it? Interesting. So I have no idea the etymology of confidence. That's interesting. Just making stuff up here. but con means with.
8:06To confide. Let's look this up because fidelity is something to do with truth. So confide, right? Yeah, look it up with the etymology of confidence. To confide is to people, like a conspiracy is a co-whisper. That's what conspiracy is, a co-whisper. So confidence is co-fidelity. right so let's see if the instinct is matched by the etymology of the word and which if it isn't I'm still okay with it what does it say so it comes from late middle English confident translations origins and meaning here we go on late etymology dictionaries God love it where does the word come from it's about trust or reliance but what's the actual etymology of the word yeah I'm not going to sit here and waste everybody's time but it comes from comfidre and fidre means to trust to trust yourself or trust other people so com, what does com mean?
9:14it means with it means with trust wow that could be with trust with yourself I think it's been, that's my point I think it's been, I think it's like a A conspiracy requires two people. You cannot have a conspiracy with one person. It's a co-whispering. You commit the crime of conspiracy when you tell someone something, and you're both in on it. So I think confidence is the same thing. I think it's at least two people who undertake the task of trust and reliance. So she was coaching you, and you saw a change with over a few weeks of her confidence. and her belief in herself. Her belief in herself grew when she was in service to helping me.
10:07And so, that goes back to the root of the question. How do you build your self-confidence? Or how do you overcome self-doubt? How do you overcome self-doubt? Help someone else overcome self-doubt. I love that. I love that. You overcome self-doubt by helping. And it's not a selfish thing. I'm only helping you so I can. You have to genuinely love and commit to the person. So this person that you're helping, you have to genuinely care about their success and their confidence and their luck in life. Everything comes back to service. Like I said, it goes back to the origins of humankind, right? Which is we are naturally tribal animals and we actually are at our best when we are in service to each other in a cause greater than ourselves.
10:47The more we focus on what we're lacking, what we don't have, what's not working for us, the challenges we're going through, the more doubt we're going to have. Correct. When we're inwardly focused on what we don't have. Oh, I wish we'd had this conversation about eight months ago because I would have written half the stuff in the book. Well, I'm running a book on self-dump right now. Because this is what the infinite mindset is all about. A finite mindset is win-win-win, be number one, be the best. Me, me, me. Win-win-win meaning win at all costs, not win-win. Correct. Not win-win. Not win-win.
11:23It's win, win, come, win. Because the infinite game is you win, I win, the world wins. Right? We all win. Humanity wins. Right, it's a whirlwind. That's funny. It's not win, win. Right. So, right. So, we are players in infinite games every day of our lives, whether we like it or not. There's no such thing as being number one in marriage. Like, good luck with that. Right. That's not going to work. there's no one who's declared the winner of life. And there's no such thing as winning business or winning global politics. But if we listen to too many leaders, they talk about being number one, being the best, and beating their competition.
12:04This was me in my entire life. Yeah, it's a lot of people. Until like six, seven years ago, I learned that that doesn't work. And you're an Olympian. Well, I haven't made the Olympics, but I'm on the Olympic handball team, yes. On the national team. Okay, whatever. You're at the highest levels of athletics. Yes. You know this from spending time with athletes, which is individual athletes It's all about it where we're team athletes tend to be a lot healthier Yeah, so like individual athletes when they reach the top of their game Michael Phelps Andre Agassi They become the greatest in the world the next thing that happens to them is Depression right where as team athletes you win the World Series you win the Super Bowl It doesn't like deep depression is not the next thing that happens some people maybe but not But it's not in general and the you know Olympic athletes are such a unique and I talked to a bunch of them For this club a gymnast who are like 16 you have a billion people watching you win the gold medal Yeah, now what and it is one of the most selfish finite pursuits because the entire pursuit is I'm gonna be number one The gold medal right and they all say the same thing.
13:08I want to win the Olympics Well, you don't actually win the Olympics you win your event. Yeah, you know, but they all say the same thing I'm gonna win the Olympics right and And then they say nonsense like, you know, you know what to inspire all the little children? Not a single one of them on their vision boards has pictures of little children overcoming adversity. They have pictures of them standing on podiums, holding medals, holding up trophies, or the vision boards. It's entirely a selfish pursuit. And any inspiration to little kids is just a lucky strike extra that's really good for the press conference.
13:43Right, right, but not a single one of them is waking up doing it for the kids. I drag myself out of bed I'm running in the rain. I missed Thanksgiving for the kids didn't happen never on any planet, right? It was for me, right? And so there's this you know, whether they whether they medal or not When they when they're done even if they were medalists when they're done with the Olympics and their ability to pursue They spent their entire lives from their childhood to adulthood striving to be number one You know and let's be honest. They're not the best. They're just better than everybody else that day that day Which is really funny to me right which is you can get a gold medal in Pick and pick a sport ice skating and you fell in your routine, but if everybody else fell twice You're the best you're the best you're the winner But you're not you're just better than everybody else in the competition because it's fighting that yeah And finite has known players fixed rules and agreed upon objectives.
14:39It's only the players But it's not life and there's an imbalance. Yes finite games are very important finite games and finite objectives are essential In an infinite game right, but there but the infinite game is the context for those finite games I need to excel or or be the best here in order to X Right and recognize that this is not the end-all be all the analogy for living with an infinite mindset is not about winning Right the better analogy is exercise right So how do you how do you how do you be a healthy person? Well? You have to eat well you have to sleep get enough sleep You have to nurse your personal relationships and you have to exercise if you do some of those things You'll be healthier than doing none of those things But you kind of have to do them all right living an infinite mindset is the same thing There's a series of practices do some you'll be better than none But you kind of have to do them all right right and the way the finite mindset Fits into it is I want to get into shape.
15:43I've been sitting on the couch for most of my life watching TV I'm gonna get into shape and I have a fitness goal a finite goal that I can easily measure my weight I can look at a scale and I can measure the progress And I've made the goal that I'm gonna lose this amount of weight by this date and so I commit to a healthy lifestyle I eat better I exercise more and getting more sleep and I'm watching the weight fall off and I miss my goal I don't lose the amount of weight that I wanted to lose by the best time. Yeah So what yeah, you're still healthier and you're on your product on you're on the road to being healthier And I can see for a fact that you absolutely We'll hit the goal later on and even if you hit the goal the problem is you can't stop exercising You have to do it for the rest of your life Yeah, that's what an infinite mindset is an infinite mindset is more like a lifestyle which is yes Absolutely having finite goals is very important.
16:35We are absolutely driven by goals. We like measuring things It is much easier to get into the lifestyle of exercise and the habit of it if I have metrics look at the insanity of Fitbits and things like that which is overdone is actually unhealthy and has adverse obsessiveness. We'll talk you know It's not that the point is it's helping people get up and have a healthier lifestyle. We like measuring stuff Yeah, it's just it's a human thing right? But but it's not about winning. It's not about actually it's not actually about the goal the goal goals and Metrics are simply a way to help us measure speed and distance.
17:10I've lost this amount of weight over this amount of time Right you cannot run a marathon without mile markers. It's unnerving the mile markers help me measure how far How far I've gone and how fast have I gone and the metrics we have at work? Help us measure how far we're moving and how fast we're moving towards a vision that is for all practical purposes unrealizable Right, that's the infinite game. There's a context and so when we beat ourselves up because we miss an arbitrary number by an arbitrary date But the question is are we building a healthy organization? And I would rather organizations do all the right things to build a healthy organization even if they miss arbitrary dates One of my favorite stories is Gary Ridge from WD 40 WD 40 is a public company whose company That's a decent sized company, which is kind of incredible because it's basically just oil basically Basically what race it's you know, it's very sophisticated lubricant that was actually made for the for the space program But by the way, we talked about you know fancy food and their offices for you They just moved into a new office recently their old offices Or a dump really and yet the morale through the roof Why is that people love work because it was never about the office?
18:22It was about the people It's never about the office. It was about the people right anyway They have a lovely new office now, but still about the people that's why I said before it's you know Is it the food all depends on the company anyway? He was on one of his quarterly analyst calls and hit one of the analysts said You missed your numbers and Gary said no, I didn't I missed yours minor minor fine Wow, right? And that's the point which is we there's nothing wrong with having metrics and goals Those are very important human beings, but to what end what are we serving? Bigger than ourselves, right?
19:00So my analogy is like a night as like an iceberg, right? so We know that the majority of an iceberg lies underneath the water So when there's a tiny tiny tiny bit of the iceberg sitting above the ocean, right? It's the visionary who can see beneath the ocean It's the vintage visionary who set who stands there and and even though no everybody sees a tiny or nothing They can see nothing the visionary is able to explain what exists in their imagination only Okay, it only exists in their imagination and and they inspire a few people to join them because like that's yes We can do that and they start working and a little bit of the iceberg shows and a few people go Oh, it's gonna work And so they commit to joining the movement or the company and a little more of the iceberg shows Right and before too long enough of the iceberg shows that people can go.
19:54This is a real thing You're not insane and crazy. What you're doing is actually in reality But the thing is the vast majority of the iceberg still exists under the ocean And so what the visionary does is constantly remind us where we're going and how much more we have to do And though we can celebrate how much we've achieved how much of the iceberg is sticking up above the ocean The reality is we have way more work and when I die It's it's still going to be the majority underneath the ice
20:22What is the difference between a habit and a behavior and which one should we be focusing on more in order to get to where we want to be? Changing our behaviors or changing our habits? A habit is a subset of behavior. It's a pretty narrow subset actually if you look at the true scientific definition. So Wendy Wood of the University of Southern California is I think the world's expert on habit and she would define it pretty rigidly as something you basically do automatically without almost consciously realizing you're doing it. Like you sort of make the coffee in the morning with the coffee maker, you hit the buttons, you don't even remember.
20:56You brush your teeth, you're just like showering. You shampoo your hair, right? And you're like, did I do the shampoo already? I was thinking about something else. You jump to work and you don't know how you got there. You're like, what? Because you're on autopilot, right? So that's like, those are the really rote activities. Like you hand sanitize if you're working in a hospital and you didn't even notice you did. Did I do that already? Those are habits. I think there's been a lot of excitement and growth of, like, in the popular press, the idea that a habit is anything that you want to repeat.
21:23And I think that would actually, a lot of the things that we think of, and that we talk about casually as habits, are probably more in the category of routines, which is different. Like, often, it's a, like, if you're going to the gym, is it really a habit? You probably remember deciding to go to the gym. Maybe you do it at a consistent time. Maybe you do it a lot. But I would start calling a lot of these things more like routines, if you want to talk about the non-academic at any rate. Sure, sure. You know, a little bit like inside baseball, who cares? But I do think it's interesting there's distinction in the processes that drive one versus the other.
21:59I mostly, I study behavior, which is like a super category. It's even above routines or habits where, and it's just all behavior change requires different behaviors to happen. Some of them are going to be on autopilot. but some of them are going to be routine, and some of them are one-time decisions that have big implications for your life. So I actually think having all of those categories in mind when we think about change is really important as opposed to narrowly focusing on one or the other. So what is the definition of a behavior? Oh, that's an interesting question. What is a behavior? A behavior is an action you take.
22:36Really, everything is behavior. If it's inside your head, it's not a behavior, then it's like a judgment. But any actual action you take is a behavior. Any action you take. So what are the most common behaviors that we have that, I guess, hold us back? And then what are the behaviors that ultra performers... Okay, I thought you were going to go with most common. I was like breathing. No, the most common behaviors that hold us back. And then the most common behaviors of the ultra high performers, successful in business and sports, what are those behaviors that they tend to lean into versus the ones where people are stuck?
23:16Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Trying to ask you questions you've never been asked here. That's my goal. They're great. They're really great questions. Okay. Let me start with some of the most common behaviors. That keep us stuck. That keep us stuck. Yes. Yeah, I think common behaviors where we get stuck are, and this is like, you know, what are the most common New Year's resolutions? They're to change those behaviors that we get stuck on. So the most common things we get stuck on are things related to our health, right? We aren't making good decisions about what we eat, what we drink, whether we smoke, whether we're physically active.
23:52Those are really common points where we get stuck. are finances, right? Making good financial decisions on a daily basis about how we spend our money, how we save, who we give our money to. Those are places people often get stuck. We can get stuck in bad social loops. We sort of started by talking about relationships. So I think that's another place we get stuck, whether it's we're not, we feel like we're too shy, we're not meeting enough people, we're meeting the wrong people, we're in the wrong relationships. That's another area where we get stuck. I think education and career, I'd put them because one follows the other, and that's another category.
24:31If you're a student, you're trying to achieve, but we often get stuck on not really studying rigorously and putting the time in and the focus in, and then that converts to work where we're not being as productive as we could be. We're not setting ourselves up for success. Ultra performers or the elite who are accomplishing all their goals and pursuing their dreams what are those behaviors that they do really well so this I have never gone and interviewed the ultra performers and said like list for me all your behavior so instead of answering your question perfectly what I'm gonna do is tell you some of the behaviors that research shows lead to great outcomes and then certainly I have seen lots of top performers where I go oh, they're totally doing that.
25:13It's great. So I think one of the most important things is like leaning on structure as opposed to expecting to just sort of follow the Nike, just do it mantra. And by the way, when you talked about how you're training for your marathon, I noticed you immediately went to all the structures. Schedule, structure, accountability, coaching, investing money into it all so there's more investment in it. So it's like you've got to show up. That is like, for me, it's so ingrained in me that if you want to accomplish your goals, you've got to schedule these things you've got to do on a daily basis and make it like...
25:52Break it down. What's the daily goal? When are you going to do it? What's going to cue you to do it? Who's going to watch you do it? Everything. What's at stake for you? What's at stake for other people? What's the higher purpose that if you don't do this, who are you going to be hurting? And who is literally holding you accountable, right? Absolutely. You've got your coach involved. So those are the kinds of things that - So structure is one of the leading academic, the research that shows which will help you get more results. Yes. And there's so many pieces of that. And like each one of them we could unpack and talk about studies from, you know, okay, a big one is too often people say, I just have this big goal, you know, this big, I think if I set a big audacious goal and that, by the way, that's good.
26:31It's good to set stretch goals, but then you've got to break it down like into the, What are you going to do this week? What are you going to do today? What are those component parts? And people get a lot further research by Albin Jura, the late Albin Jura of Stanford, great thinker, sort of did some of the pioneering work on this. We just did a field experiment where we tested with thousands of people who wanted to be volunteering 200 hours a year. And they had committed to that goal. And we found that just sending them reminders not to volunteer 200 hours a year, but to volunteer four hours a week led to vastly better performance.
27:09Just that really simple change, even in the way you communicate about this. When you invite someone to start saving$5 a day instead of$150 a month, you get vastly higher take-up. Interesting. But it's identical. So just little framing shifts where you think about, let's break this down into the bite-sized component. Now it's harder to procrastinate on it. You can see how it's doable. It doesn't feel overwhelming. So you're saying, if my goal is to save$105 or invest$105 a month or whatever this is, Because are you saying it's not the best approach to say, I'm going to invest$105 a month, but I'm going to do$5 a day?
27:44Yeah. So I can't remember what this is. Yeah, it's$150 because it's like 30 days roughly in a month. $150. As opposed to saying, I'm going to save or invest$150 a month, trick your brain into saying, I'm going to invest$5 a day. Right. You're saying by doing that, what should happen? We should have - Many more people raise their hand and say, I can do this. As opposed to$150 is too big for some people. It sounds big. You start thinking like, oh no, where am I going to have to cut? Like, I'm not going to get to go out to dinner three times that I thought I was going to get to go out to. Am I going to make my rent?
28:18So you're like focusing on that big category,$150. And this was an experiment that was done led by Hal Hirschfeld at UCLA with the savings app, Acorns. And they just invited people. either some people get randomly assigned, do you want to save$5 a day or$150 a month? It's literally the identical outcome. They will take$150 out of your account. Monthly. Monthly. But they framed it differently and you get vastly higher take-ups. Something like five times more people are interested. It just feels doable. Yes. I mean, it's like anyone can find$5 on their couch or like hard, like the change. It's like, I can't do this every day, but 150 bucks may be like a big stretch.
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28:56Right, but it is the same thing. And so that broken down goal is really important. So it's like if you're working out, as opposed to saying, I'm going to run, I don't know, 50 miles a week. It's like, that may seem like a lot, but I can run, what's that broken down to? Three miles, four miles a day, five miles a day. It's more doable than thinking about the big number, right? Yeah. That's interesting. How could you apply that in another area of life, do you think? In terms of like fitness, in terms of finances, and what about like relationships? I don't know. I think you can break down most big goals into its component parts.
29:33It might not be as simple as literally redoing the math, but it might be, I want to have a better relationship and I want us to spend more quality time together. Let's try to spend a lot more quality time together this year. Well, first you can get more concrete than a lot of. And so say you had a monthly goal, it might be like, okay, I want to make sure that we go on, you know, five just us dates a month to have that alone time. You might say that means, you know, every Friday plus one Saturday, we're going to do it. And that means, you know, once a week plus one time, one week that has two times.
30:07And we're going to, let's go map out when they are. It all becomes more bite-sized and achievable. And this is, again, you said you're like mapping out your schedules. schedules these are the the component parts that actually add up to achieving your yeah and i'm going to think of like okay what am i going to do this week what am i going to schedule this week not like i've got all this stuff to do for the next three months like what can i do for the next few days and what's coming tomorrow and then okay i see the full week and how am i going to manage my time and at the end of the week wow i can look at what i created and i can be proud of it and build for the next week yeah so that's really important yeah and time's going to keep passing and in three months you're going to look back and say, oh, look at all those steps I took to get to me where I'm at.
30:46Absolutely. Winning the LA Marathon. No, I'm just kidding. Completing is the goal. Completing in five hours is my goal. Okay, so that's leading on structure. Structure. Let me add another super important strategy that I think a lot of high performers use that research supports. And this one I think is vastly underappreciated too. And it sort of relates to what I was poking at earlier, like the Just Do It, Nike, like, no, that's not really right. I think this is really a misconception that's related to that. And the idea comes from research by Ayelet Fischbach of the University of Chicago and Caitlin Woolley of Cornell.
31:26And what they showed is that if you ask people when they have a big goal, what approach are they going to take to try to get to it? Most people say, like, I'm going to look for the most efficient route. It's all about efficiency. What's the most effective path to that end goal? That's how I go for it. And like a small fraction of people say something different. They say, I try to find a way that I'll enjoy getting to that end destination. Have fun. Have fun. So you could think about someone who wants to, we've been on marathons, say you're training for a marathon, you know, somebody who's like, I'm going to just go to the gym and get on the treadmill and grind it out.
32:01It's going to be hard every day. And another person is like, I'm going to go on a run with a running group. We're going to go through on the most beautiful trails that I know. We're going to do it together. Maybe I'm even going to download some great reading material, listening material before I go so that I have something fun in my ears. Those are really different paths, right? This one might be more efficient because you don't have to coordinate with other people. You'll do it every day. You're going to know exactly your mileage. It's going to be really controlled. But it turns out if you don't enjoy it, you don't persist.
32:32And so they've done experiments where they show that if you just actually encourage people to choose the most fun way to pursue an exercise goal or study. They did this with students in math class, you know, giving them fun activities that were sort of going on in the background. You can use markers and play music and have snacks versus just grind it out. People achieve more because they persist longer when they find ways to make it fun to do what's good for them.
33:04what's the greatest lesson you learned in the last uh year of working these two jobs as you transition out of this job what was the greatest lesson of overworking what it sounds like you were doing um that success does not equal happiness i remember when i think it was three years ago i had signed my highest draft pick ever i had won like woman of the year and had a number one overall pick in softball, had all these amazing things happening, made more money than I've ever made. And I remember looking back, I had made a birthday post actually, like, oh, here's all the great things I did this year.
33:39I remember being like, man, this is the least happy I've ever been. And so I think I learned really quickly that success and happiness, I mean, people try to conflate those terms are very different. You can be successful and not be happy. And so for me, the milestones don't make me happy. I'm very much a journey girl, right? The journey, it's all about I want to get there, I want to get there. When I finally hit the goal, it's real anticlimactic for me. It's almost depressing. It's like, okay, I did it, now what? So it was really a wake-up call. What I'm trying to do is learn how to be present in the moment when I hit the goal.
34:13Be okay with, okay, I hit the goal, let's celebrate it. Instead of it going, kind of being like, well, what's next? Taking a moment to really take it in. Celebrating the success and the accomplishment of the years of hard work is so important. It is. But for me, it's always, okay, well, what's the next goal? What's the next step? And that's unhealthy. You know, you need to be able to be okay with celebrating what you've done and taking a moment to live in that moment before going to the next. Yeah, I think success doesn't equal happiness, but I think also you can still be happy and successful.
34:42You can, exactly. But it doesn't, you know, it's different, and people think once I hit success, then I will be happy. You've got to find happiness separately. Before you become successful, be happy, and success will add to it as more fun. Exactly. It's really joy, right? Happiness is about what's happening. Joy is eternal. How much joy do you feel on a daily basis? It's something I'm working on. It's something I'm working on. You know, I feel it, but my mom, I watch her. She doesn't have much. She never had much, but she's always just so joyful, right? She doesn't have two pennies to rub together, but there's no one I've met who just is happier to be alive than her.
35:20And so, So I look at her and I'm like, she doesn't have anything. And I have everything in her mind. Interesting. And our outlooks on life are just so different. And so, yeah, I mean, it's something I'm working on. It's not like I'm not happy all day. Right. What's the greatest lesson your mom's taught you? I mean, she instilled in me my faith. I'm really blessed to have learned about Jesus from my mom. She gave me nothing else except how to worship Jesus and how to be a giver. Those are the two things. but I feel like they were the most important gifts of my life. That's cool. Yeah. What about greatest lesson from your dad?
35:56That's a tough one. He's an immigrant. He came over here with nothing and had to hustle. He definitely taught me you have to survive. No matter what the circumstances are, he kind of taught me to survive. I knew how to survive as a kid. I think now that I'm older, I'm trying to go from surviving to thriving. You know, stop living in a survival mode because I can do that. I can do that well. Learned how to do that. So it's like, okay, now how about thriving? And like you said, living in abundance and being okay with spending your money and enjoying the moment. An influencer or a content creator, you were like working at a law firm and, you know, like representing other personal brands, essentially, athletes and influencers.
36:40So how do you learn to build your own personal brand, and why is it important for every individual to build their personal brand, whether in a corporation or not? Actually, I have a whole chapter on this in my book about building a brand. I believe every professional is a brand, lawyers, doctors, et cetera. I think we always look at entrepreneurs and influencers as the people that have brands. Once I learned that we're all brands, it really changed my career. I decided to build a brand because I wanted to get athletes to come to me. I didn't have time to recruit like other agents got another job and so I had to get creative and I thought okay If I have a brand where I'm a household name where when somebody thinks of a sports agent on the first name or one of the first Names that comes to mind then I've done it right.
37:22How'd you do that? And it starts with picking out your pillars of your brand, right? I think every brand has a few pillars and Everything you do falls under those pillars like for me. It's it's sports and it's women empowerment and mentorship and so when I'm posting on my social media or on my website anything that is on that page is under one of my pillars yeah and so finding what that brand kind of parameters are and then being consistent with it mm-hmm you know your followers and your fans they sign up for something giving them what they signed up for mmm when did you start really going all in on kind of content and building a brand online I would say it's been about three or four years when I first started you know it was a slow start but I just I remember making a decision like I'm going to be the first agent everyone thinks of I'm gonna make a decision like it was very intentional I'm about to build a brand as a sports agent and it has not been done and I think most people probably know of Jerry Maguire the fictitious agent maybe one or two agents but you can't name a sports agent just naturally right and so I made the decision I said you know what people think of that they're gonna think of me that's cool but everyone should feel that way if you're a baker you want people to think of you first if they need a cake and do Do you think of like, okay, there's, I don't know, 20 ,000 sports agents.
38:35I'm just making up, how many are there out of those? 900 NFL agents. Oh, 900 NFL agents, yeah. Okay, I'm way off, but there's a thousand, let's say, agents. How do you, do you think of like, I'm gonna lean into my uniqueness, like use the differences or the uniqueness and the talents that I have and not try to be like the other agents, but just go all in obnoxiously on who I am? Is that what you think of? 100%. Living in my authentic self every single day. I decided to show up exactly who I am every day. And I think I wouldn't be on this podcast. I wouldn't have a book if I didn't make that decision day one that I was going to be me.
39:12I got a lot of advice early on to blend in. And I was like, you know what? I'm not taking that advice. I'm going to be who I am. Yeah. There's a quote from a woman named Sally Hogshead who says, different is better than better. and being different is better than better because you're going to be unique you're going to be stand out you're going to be a one-of-a-kind and you may not be better than the best sports agent at this moment but you're different and that's better for you than being better I agree and I think if if people can approach that and say what makes me unique and how can I lean into that more and more like for me I'm a big salsa dancer and I wasn't posting yeah salsa stuff until recently and it's getting the most engagement and comments and people are like, post more of this.
40:00You know, playing guitar with my brother who's an amazing jazz violinist and they're like, post more of this. It's like, these are unique things for me that I haven't always shared and I'm trying to lean into it more and more and I think that's... You're the secret sauce. Exactly. No one else can do the talents that you have, the experience you have, the life you grew up from, the lessons, the whatever. Even if you give them the recipe. If I give you my spaghetti recipe, the exact instructions, your sauce is still going to taste different. I'm the secret sauce. You're the secret sauce. Exactly.
40:30And people are going to be attracted to you. I love this. What's a question you wish more people would ask you that they don't ask? Oh, man, that's a good question. What I wish they asked me but that they don't ask. How are you? How are you feeling? How are you feeling? I'm feeling pretty good. I'm feeling okay. I'm a little tired. I get a lot of questions about how to get in the business and like I meet people how to be a sports agent and I think people forget like hey I'm a human and you know more of the like checking in like how are you doing like where you know you how's your mental health how's your physical health how's how's Nicole Lynn doing not agent Nicole Lynn how's Nicole Lynn doing personal Nicole Lynn yeah so I think people kind of forget about that that's what I'm going to do over the next 30 days every day how are you once a week No, once a week, I'm going to check in with you.
41:21We're going to create a list. Oh, my gosh. To send it to you. August 1st. August 1st. Yeah, we'll give you to August 1st, the start of the month. Got to have the August one. You can't start it. Yeah, exactly. And we'll do that August 1st. I'm going to text you. I can do it. I'm going to have you text me on the weekends when you've completed the week. Okay. And I'm going to check in on you for four weeks. I'm going to be like an NFL training camp. I'm going to be working out in the hotel, I guess. Work out with the guys, you know? It's just like I'll jump in there. Exactly. Kill them. I love this.
41:53You've got this book we've been talking about called Agent You, Show Up, Do the Work, and Succeed in Your Own Terms. People can get it online. They can go to bookstores. Where's a place they can connect with you personally? Where's the website for more about you? AgentNicoleLynn.com or AgentNicoleLynn on Twitter, Instagram. Where do you hang out more, Twitter, Instagram, or both? I'd say both. You know, Twitter, it's heavy, heavy sports. So if you like sports, Instagram, you'll get mostly sports. but you know mentorship i like to post kind of this the blueprint of how i am a sports agent that's cool you know if you ever want to get into sports i i put all the tips on my page that's cool yeah it's fun and i see my guy emmanuel and sarah both on the back praising for you both both friends of mine so it's inspiring to see gabriel union wrote the forward that's awesome yeah where's her name on it i know she's a good you gotta put her name on the front i know yeah you gotta leverage that that's good good marketing um this is a question i ask everyone at the end of our interviews called the three truths okay question so i'd like you to imagine a hypothetical scenario okay it's your last day on earth many years away from now it's really sad it's the most depressing no you've lived you lived as long as you want to live okay 200 years perfect you live 200 clearly and then it's your last day okay eventually you got to call it quits right okay on this this life and you've accomplished all your dreams.
43:14You've lived the life that you want to live. You do self-care every day. You're helping athletes. You're doing all these, whatever your dream life is, you actually create it. Okay. From here until whenever you pass. But for whatever reason, you've got to take all of your materials with you or it's got to go somewhere else. So your book, your content, the things you've said, no one has access to this anymore. It goes to the next place, somewhere else. But you get a piece of paper and a pen and you get to write down three things you know to be true. three lessons and this is all we would have to be reminded of you from your all of your work and all of your material of these three lessons that you would share with the world wow that they would have to use and whatever they wanted to use what would you say are those three truths for you god is real the second truth is that finding your purpose is the most important mission of your life
44:08and the third marry the right person marry the right person why does that seem to be so hard for so many people it's tough people are always like how are you so successful what's the number one thing you can tell me to do marry the right person I couldn't do what I do if I had married someone else it would be draining yeah it's a support system you're a team you know it's a partnership and that partnership is critical to your success. That's a whole other book. Right, right. How long have you been married for? Nine years. How did you know that it was the right person? Man, I just knew. Isn't that crazy?
44:47I just knew. I was one of those, I mean, we dated for like 10 months and then we're married. Wow. I'm one of those stories. It's like, we dated and like six weeks in, it's like, I guess you're probably my husband. I think you are. You know, and just here we are. People thought we were nuts. We're going now on our 10th year. Wow. So I was like, I think it worked out. What's been the key to knowing it's a great fit or it's aligned? And then the key to also sustaining it and making sure it stays that way after 10 years. The sustaining is that love is not enough. I've been saying that so much lately.
45:20Love is not enough. It's not at all. And you have to make a decision every day to stay married. Wow. Marriage is very hard. People don't talk about that. People like to make it look like it's all roses. It's hard. You show up every day. It's like going to work every single day and choosing to love someone. Wow. You know, it's an action. But yeah, love is not enough. You know, compatibility, chemistry, I mean, there's so many different factors here that are important. And I wish I could say it's just all about love and it's not. It's BS. You guys had all the other stuff though. You know, some of it grew over time.
45:54Right. We're very different. Some of it grew over time. Some of it was we're very different in these things and we've got to learn how to live with these differences because no one's changing. Right. You accept each other. If you don't accept each other, it's going to be miserable. You accept it or leave, right? Yeah. And so we made the choice, okay, we're going to stay. So as we make that choice every day, what does that look like? What does it mean when you wake up every day to make the choice to fight for your marriage? You're fighting for your marriage even when the marriage is great. Right.
46:20Every day you wake up, you're fighting for your marriage. Love's not enough. Love's not enough. I've been saying that. That's a good sign. I want to acknowledge you, Nicole, for a moment for your gifts, for everything you've done to overcome from getting food at eight and nine that's helped you and your brother to forge your driver's license to just doing whatever it takes to survive and to thrive and to be an example for other people. I acknowledge you for making the big risk, taking the risk to leave something that you've been comfortable with for a long time, which is probably not hard to leave.
46:59And to go all in on something that you're really passionate about. I acknowledge you, even though maybe you wanted to do it sooner, you did it at the right time for you. And I acknowledge you for not beating yourself up. I think a lot of us beat ourselves up for things we didn't do and we should have done. And you're just like, you know, it's the right timing. It needed to happen this way. I acknowledge you for allowing me to try to bring out of you the things that might be lacking, that could support you, that could take you to the next level. because that's part of my mission is to help serve people get to their next level.
47:30So I acknowledge you for saying you're committed to this, and I'm going to check in on you. Please do. And, yeah, everything you're up to, I'm really excited about it. Thank you. It's been great to meet you, yes. I'm so happy to be here. Thank you for having me on your show. Of course, of course. My final question is what's your definition of greatness? Oh, man, definition of greatness. Man, wow. I could just write an essay on what does it mean to be great you know I think about greatness I think about not whether you have what it takes I believe almost everybody has what it takes I think people don't think that I think everybody has what it takes but it's will you do what it takes and that's the difference a lot of people listening you have what it takes but will You do what it takes to be great.
48:18Greatness is doing whatever it takes to get there. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad-free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our Greatness Plus channel exclusively on Apple Podcasts. Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review.
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In today’s Masterclass episode we dive deep into the process of setting goals and reframing our minds for success with two of the world's leading experts on winning in the game of life. This powerful episode serves as a reminder to fall in love with the journey rather than the destination while in the pursuit of greatness.
- Simon Sinek is an unshakable optimist who believes in a bright future and our ability to build it together. He discovered remarkable patterns about how the greatest leaders and organizations think, act and communicate.
- Nicole Lynn's incredible business savvy and strong will to succeed has led her to become one of the youngest female sports agents in the industry signing her first client at only 26. Nicole Lynn brings extreme intelligence, beauty, sass, and class to the world of sports.
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- Why so many of us beat ourselves up when we don’t win, and how big of a deterrent that is to our success
- How to live in the present moment whether or not it is positive or negative
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