Transforming Behavior and Cultivating Healthy Habits [MASTERCLASS] EP 1444

27:25No, listen, I don't know who you think you are. and start an argument so she'd be like, I'm out. Just so she wouldn't bring up more because I knew what I was doing. And I knew that I wasn't living right. I mean, the one thing is it's almost like, you know, you say one lie and it turns into two, turns into ten. It eats you inside of you too. You're talking about ten years. Now, I vowed I would never tell anybody and my wife was always like, she would just bring up stuff like, what is it? What are you doing, man? I don't know, you ever cheat on me? Stuff like that. And I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about.

28:05And angry, angry. And what you would do, and one thing that I would do is project. Of course. So I was like, why are you saying that? Are you thinking about cheating? And again, this manipulative game that you could play with the people you love, the people who love you, or you claim to love, just so you can keep your thing together. You know what I mean? And this thing, Louis, is that I realized that the image of Terry Crews was more important than who Terry Crews was. Dang. And I had to worship that image. Who? And it ran everything. Because what would happen if who Terry Crews was really came out instead of the image?

28:53What would happen then? Well, my mindset, I had a play. I was like, I'd lose everything. First of all, my wife would leave. People who knew me would be ashamed. People who knew me would be, they would run away. Everybody would be done. All of it would be finished. Every bit of who I, you know, if people found out who I really, really was, or what I was really, really thinking and contemplating, how I had done, then it would be the end of me. Wow. So I decided that we're going to put this image up and we're going to prop it up. And it's like having an image on these really weak posts. You know what I mean?

29:34And we get bumped and it's way swaying and you're doing everything you can. I got to put another beam up on there just to hold it up because it's getting rickety. And the longer it goes, the more rickety it gets. And it all fell, 2010. and my wife was like I'm out I'm done and because what happened was she finally asked me because we had just been getting farther and farther apart over the years and she said what is it I don't know about you Terry Crews and I told her I told her about what happened 10 years earlier not in my head I'm like hey it was 10 years ago but her it was today and she was like I'm out.

30:22Wow. Don't come home. And what I realized is that she had married an image. And what she realized is that she didn't know me. Right. She was like, who are you? And I let her stay in that. And one thing about men is that what we're looking for is intimacy. like literally someone who knows us inside and out and loves us anyway. But if you never reveal who you really are, you can never, ever have intimacy. I'm into that. You understand what I mean? You can't. It's impossible because you have to know who you are. Absolutely. You have to share who you are. But the game is not to share who you are. So you can have sex all day.

31:15Lots of sex. because that's still part of the image. But it doesn't have anything to do with intimacy. Anything to do with someone. This is why you always love your mom. Because your mom knows who you are. Right, right. Everything. Everything. You know what I mean? She cleans your nose. She wipes your butt. She knows when you lie. She knows the bad you. She knows the good you. And she loves you anyway. That's why you, mom. Mom is queen of the world. But you didn't tell everything to this chick. No. To this lady. To your wife. I'm like, oh my God. And due years of therapy, I finally went in to deal with these issues, man.

32:03Now, the thing about in my culture where I grew up. No one does therapy. The mind was you can't cure crazy. That was the phrase that was say you can't kill crazy and then you're talking about in religious circles They were like oh you're gonna get them demons the demons are gonna come if you go to that psychology They gonna mess with your brain and make you crazy So my father there was one time my father went to a psychologist to get help for his alcoholism And a week later the psych the psychologist jumped off a bridge and I was like what Wow huh? Oh, man. He jumped off a bridge, man. And I said, okay, that don't work.

32:43That's not going to work. So, no. And I thought these guys are going to make me crazy. So, that was the thing. Like, when that broke for me, when my wife left, I was at my wit's end. Like, I said, man, I got to try this therapy stuff. You know, because I'd heard enough about it over the years. What was the greatest lessons therapy has taught you, then? Man, assembly required. Okay, when I say this, we all think we as men or people are as good as we are. We just take me as I am. We make songs about it. Take me just as I am. But the problem is, it's not anybody else's job to assemble you. You are like Legos.

33:33Okay, Legos come in a box. You shake the box. It's just pieces. And in a very competitive world, people tell you you're broke. Hey, man, look at your boss. You're broken. But what I learned is that you're never, you're not broken. You're just not finished. You, it's up to you to assemble yourself. You have to work on you. You have to take off parts that are bad or broke or that don't fit. because nothing's broken. It's just things don't fit. And you pull it off and you put it back together the right way. It's like when you go, but you got to go deep and you got to go down. With computers, it's a bit.

34:24With property or the minerals, it's atoms. And with human beings, it's genes. I mean, it's down into the core. You get one little gene and you can rebuild yourself that's what I got from therapy you can take the bad out it's not automatic you know a lot of people have said you see the nature versus nurture but nurture always works no matter what your nature started on that's you're so I mean like nurture is you're in the wood nature's you'd be born naked in the woods but nurture is you learn to make a coat and put it on yeah you know what i'm saying you can build a house why do you think it's so hard for us to be 100 authentic in relationships yeah if you ask somebody about your characteristics like your personality for instance what your strengths might be that's what you've come across that you feel as if is a good machinery to make it in this life, right?

35:31So this is like, you know, maybe I'm charismatic. Maybe I'm hardworking. Maybe I'm analytical. Maybe I'm, you know, competitive. Maybe I'm these ways. Somewhere along the lines of your life, you realized this would be a good thing. This gets me a little further forward. It's a result, yeah. Very good. So then there I am in life being this way. And the more successful it is, the more I'm going to be this way. So now more and more and more like this to the point where there's no distinction between this thing and me like we have the same now It's this there's no line anywhere. It's just all How you would explain yourself now?

36:07What you also realize though was that those ways don't work everywhere Mm-hmm. And so what people call imposter syndrome is basically just the realization that you're Your stick don't stick Like you're like my stuff don't work here And so people are like, oh, I feel like I'm an imposter. Well, you are in many ways, but not in the way you might think. You are an imposter. There's a you there doing another you. But behind that you really is you. So how do we get behind that you? How do we break down the thing that's been working for so long, but maybe won't continue to work in the next revolution?

36:46Right. If I'm, for instance, competitive, right? and it's a trait of mine, and it's stood me in good stead, and I've created a life from that, and maybe some success from that, or in my case, hardworking, right? But it could be other things, could be analytical, and it could be, and this is obviously a kind of, these are ways of being, this is an ontological element, right? Or the element of being a human being. So if I'm competitive, I can point to all the places where that's really done me, done me well, right? sports and maybe or maybe I'm in sales right or maybe I'm you know like I'm building my own business right I mean these are this is a strength here right yeah try taking that home in relationships it doesn't work it's a crap show right like it's like this is not gonna work for me you know it's fascinating I would say I define my identity a piece of my identity most of my life as a competitor yeah right being in sports yeah and using sports as a tool to make myself feel better, to prove the bullies wrong from childhood, all those things and say, I'm going to make something of myself.

37:52I'm going to win at all costs and sports and things like that. I started early in my twenties to translate that into business and it worked in a sense, but it left me feeling more, I don't know, against people than it was with people. All right. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. Right. So there you are and you were having an experience that this competitiveness actually wasn't working for you. Right. It was getting results in some way, but not results in the other way. Right. So you're starting to see something there, though, that's really interesting. I mean, that is here you are being yourself.

38:31But hold on a minute. Is this myself? And why am I suffering inside? And why am I going through these challenges? So I want to know is what's the thing that's suffering then? Like, what's that? Yeah, I guess it was the identity that this isn't working, like who I am or the way I'm being isn't working fully. It's working partially to get certain results, but it's not creating peace inside. All right, so I would flip it the other way. I would flip it the other way, look at it from the other direction. That is, it's fine for this competitive expression, but not okay for you. Absolutely. And it's the you, that you, that I'm interested in.

39:12I'm interested in that because that thing right there, what matters to that thing? And so you actually pine into it. So the thing that mattered to you then was people. Absolutely. But you see how like that competitiveness was now the barrier between you and people. Each moment is an opportunity to detour into fear. And then we create a world of fear based perceptions. And so what we must do to live and thrive and feel good is undo those fear-based perceptions. And I believe through a spiritual path or through maybe a therapeutic path. I think spirit's in all of it, whether you realize it or not.

39:54But to make a commitment to feel better means that you're committed to returning to God. Or love. Or spirit. Whatever you call it. You also talk about how we have guides. and it's funny because my girlfriend who's amazing and uh she'll always tell me she's like you know your angels are always yeah she's the spiritual being right she's like i could see it i have there's angels that are always supporting me whenever i'm in trouble i'm like focused on my angels i'm like where are these angels like how do we know they're here who are these guides like how can we tap into this belief that there are whether it's our ancestors spiritual beings whatever may be, are here with us, are guiding us, are protecting us, are leading us into a path of love.

40:42So what I write about in my book is what I believe. And I always have a big disclaimer that says this is an opportunity to crack you open to believing something new. And if it's not for you, you choose how you choose to perceive this. So not only do I talk about spirit guides and angels and deceased family members, but I also talk about your higher self. So if this is too woo-woo for you, start to tap into what is the voice of my higher self, right? That voice of my inner guidance system and that wisdom that I believe in is my true nature, right? But I personally, Gabby Bernstein, I believe that we all have guides, ancestors, family members, teachers, beings of light beings, energy beings that are supporting us in a form that is able to step in, and able to channel through us when we write books, able to be there in those darkest moments, pick us up off the floor, and hold us in discomfort, and guide us to business opportunities, or babies, or whatever it is that we're looking for.

41:44And it's always available to us, that guidance, but we just, we cut it off, we block it. Why do we block the guidance? Fear is the reason we block it. Fear. Fear of what? It's not even fear, it's that false-based perception that we've built up around ourselves from those traumatic events, right? So we have these traumatic events early in life, and they continue to build and build and build. We build up a world of false perceptions. I am this body. I am Gabby Bernstein. I am Lewis Howes. I've got the School of Greatness. I'm a New York Times bestseller. I can't trust people. We create these beliefs.

42:14And you believe you're separate from others. You believe you're better than or less than or not good enough. And all those stories, all those false pretenses are what many spiritual practices call the ego. right and that fear-based perception of yourself is misaligned with with with god with love with spirit with angels with guides and so this book is all about how to get back into alignment so that you can hear that guidance and receive that guidance and be a channel for inspiration and when you when you clear and undo those patterns of fear and start to claim the pattern of love that's when you are hooked up, super attractor, doors unstoppable, invisible doors open for you.

42:58It doesn't matter how low you are when you're starting this, you will go way further than you could possibly have imagined. And I am standing behind that subtitle, Methods for Manifesting a Life Beyond Your Wildest Dreams. Standing behind it. I love that. What's the difference between spiritual guides or guides and intuition? You could call it the same thing. your guides your guides are your bridge from your fear-based thoughts back to your love right so if you pray and say god guide higher self angels whatever i give this to you figure it out right i don't i don't know i'm going to get through this time but yeah i give it to you that's how we surrender people like i don't know how to surrender i don't want to let it go i don't know how to through prayer okay prayer is the conduit and then when we say that prayer or that intention whatever you want to call it, and we allow ourselves to give it over to a higher power of our own understanding, a guide, God, spirit, grandma, whoever, then we're taking that difficult experience, we're handing it over, and then we relax.

44:03Yeah. Because we think, okay, it's not on my shoulders anymore. It's like taking our ego out of ourself and putting it over here. Giving it over, help me undo this. And then their job is to pay attention. What's going to show up for us? And so pay close attention. How do we pay attention? Just be aware, stay calm, and stay chill, right? And be conscious of how things start to speed up or the synchronicities that begin to happen around you. Or if you are like, you know, guides, I want to see a sign, and you're like, I need butterflies, and butterflies are everywhere. Right. I'm getting thousands and thousands of emails from readers that are reading this book in the last two weeks it's been out, and they're just like, Gabby, every single sign I've asked for is coming to me.

44:42And it just speeds up. Ask for a sign today. If you're having a difficult experience, say guides. What would your sign be? Don't think. Just say it. Don't think. Oh, the sign itself? Like a pumpkin or anything. An eagle. Eagle is your sign. That's a good one. It's strong. Yeah. See how everybody, how he answered that. It's going to be the first thing that comes to mind. And now if there's an issue that's happening in your life, just say to yourself silently today at this end of this podcast, just say, thank you guides. Thank you, universe, whatever you believe in, right? For showing me my eagle to remind me that I'm on the right path.

45:19So ask for the sign, the eagle. Thank you for revealing my eagle. Thank you for revealing it before I see the eagle. Yeah. Thank you for revealing my eagle to remind me that I am being guided. Okay. Okay. And the eagle will mean whatever I give the meaning to, whether it's to make a decision on something or - If it's just being guided in general or if it's being guided towards that job or that healing or that whatever, right? Sometimes I'll use a sign like, am I supposed to take this deal and I don't know what to do and I'm feeling so uncomfortable about it. I'll say, show me a sign and I'll get this.

45:48And the thing is, if you don't get your sign, that's a sign too. But you absolutely will get your sign. If you're asking to be shown that you're being guided, 100 % you're going to get your sign. Louis is going to text me later, everybody. It's all the eagle. My eagle! Just sent me a photo of some massive eagle. So give me an example for people. It could be an eagle in a photo or an eagle in a napkin. Not some eagle sitting on my window, which would be amazing if that happened. Could be that too. So let's give a practical example for someone. Say someone says there's a female listening or a male listening and saying, okay, is this, should I go on a date with this person?

46:24A second date with this person, right? Just something small. Show me my sign. Show me my sign. Yeah. And what if you don't see, and the sign is to reveal that you're supposed to go on this date or to give you some guide. If you don't get the sign, and you decided to go on the date anyway, it's okay. There's still some learning in that. There have been times where I've done things where I didn't get my sign and they didn't work out necessarily, but I still learned something from the experience. Has there ever been a time where you didn't see a sign and it did work out?

46:56Maybe you saw the sign later or something. It worked out in a different way. right? So like, if I was like, I need a sign about this situation and I didn't get the sign. Oh, here's an example from the book. So I was, uh, my, my two weeks before I was meant to conceive my doctor, who was like a very conservative Yale trained physician in my little tiny country town was like, you're, you're turning. I just turned 39. I was 38 when I was pregnant and I just turned 39. So he considered me 40. I was like, dude, I was 38 a week ago and now I'm fucking 40. So he makes me 40. And he's like, we believe that you need to deliver 40 and 40, 40 weeks when you're 40 years old.

47:37And I was resisting and resisting. And I was like, I'm not 40 and I don't want to be induced and I don't want to force the baby out. And I don't want to have that kind of thing. And I, um, so I was so torn up because he was so nervous and that was infiltrating my fear, my fears. And so I was in his office and I was like, okay, universe, I can't make a decision. I need a sign. And so I said, show me a sign if following this path is the right move. And he walked in the door and he was wearing this necktie. And I said, Howie, what's on your tie? And he said, it's a, it's a Cardinal. And I said, okay, in my head, I'm like, that's my sign.

48:11It's a Cardinal. And so the next day I had to make a decision if I wanted to get booked. So I didn't have an opportunity to see my cardinal before I made that quote, that decision, because I had to book him in the schedule, and he was leaving the next week. It was a mess. So I made the decision without seeing the sign. I said, okay, to be induced, to schedule an induction. It's not what I wanted. And so I made that decision. I was in my bath. I texted my girlfriend. I said, okay, I'm going to be induced. This is happening. And she writes back to me, that's a great decision. I feel really good about it.

48:42And I know it's good for you because I saw a cardinal land on my window No, just now. Cardinal Landry. No way. Did you tell her the sign? She had no idea about the sign. Wow. But here's the thing. So I got my cardinal. It gave me the guidance that I was on the right path. I was meant to be induced on a Wednesday. On a Monday, I'm lying in my bed. I'm finishing the finishing touches of the book because I wanted to deliver the book before I delivered the baby. So I stand up to go to the bathroom and my water breaks. No way. And here I am and I have the most epic Beyonce birth. Like there was nobody at the hospital.

49:16I had like rolling hills out my window and like I was the only one birthing in the maternity ward. And I had, you know, the sun setting. So the whole point is, is that my sign was saying, yeah, you're on the right track. Make the decision so that I could relax. Because if I hadn't made that decision, I wouldn't have relaxed. My water wouldn't have broke because I would have been too freaked out and tense and everything worked out. Do you see what I'm saying here? So if you don't see your sign, that's still guidance. And then, you know, if you get your sign, even if it's something you didn't want, you know.

49:45What has been the biggest lesson of motherhood that you were unexpectedly, because you have lots of friends who are mothers. Yeah, I had no idea. You have so many fans of yours who are moms that you speak to all the time. And maybe you thought you knew what they were going through. You could speak into some of their challenges. But what have you really learned? Maybe three biggest lessons so far about motherhood and what moms experience. Yeah. In the first year of motherhood. So in terms of what mom's experience and what happens, and I think my son has taught me, has given me the greatest gift of healing I could ever have imagined.

50:18Really? Because as soon as I became pregnant, what happens for women is all your shit comes up, and for men too. Oh, yeah. You know, when you're about to bring life into the world and be responsible for that life, your darkest demons start to come to the surface. And so many people just push it down, push it down, push it down. And so I don't push things down. I was like, let's go. Okay, I'm ready. I'm willing. Let's go for this. and so I you know I worked out along the way and then the postpartum and that gave me even a greater greater step of healing so his presence in my life has already put me on a massive healing path I've had you know fast forward healing in the last year and a half so that I'm grateful my son has taught me that I am going to make my highest priority in life to honor his feelings people People keep asking me, what's your parenting advice?

51:09I'm like, look, I've been doing this for 10 months, but I can tell you this. Honor their feelings. Imagine that was something that we experienced. Amazing, beautiful. I mean, you'd be a different person, I'd be a different person. And if we could honor any human's feelings, any human being, particularly a child. And then I guess the third thing that I've learned as a mother, there's so much, but is that they have their own guides. They have their own, they're not, oh, this is big. He is not my son, Oliver Rocklin. He is not the son to Zach, the son to Gabby. He is his own spirit having a human experience.

51:47Wow. And he is a person. He's not a baby. Wow. Yeah. And you're just here to guide him. I am in an archetypal position to be a guide and a love and a support for him. But I find myself often being like, my baby's so cute. My baby, my baby. And then I have to stop myself and say, Oliver, not my baby. He's not my baby. He's him. Wow. So when we reflect our judgment on someone else, we don't like something. We're angry at them. We're pissed off at them, whatever it is. How can we shift that to see the good in them? Read Judgment Detox. Okay. Because sometimes I'm just like, yeah, I wrote a book about it.

52:29Yeah, exactly. I get it. But I'll answer your question fully right now, which is like, When we are in judgment of somebody else, what's happening is that we're projecting onto them our own wounds. And so the second step of judgment detox is to, well, the first step is to honor your wounds. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, of course. Yeah. It's so hard to not judge other people, isn't it? It gets easier when you practice it. That book helped me so much. And do I not judge all the time? Of course I still judge. But when I judge, I don't believe in it. And I get out of it quickly. So what do you say when you're judging someone else?

53:02I witness my judgment without judgment, step one. I honor the wound. Okay, oh, I'm judging them because I'm feeling insecure. I'm judging them because they're triggering something, right? And then I continue on the journey of the judgment detox, which, you know, just releasing and forgiving and seeing someone for the first time, choosing to see them through the lens of love. It's a fabulous book. See them through a lens of love. Yeah. Get that book too. What do you think is your greatest accomplishment in 40 years of life? My greatest accomplishment in 39 years, two weeks away from 40. Don't age me.

53:39I can't believe I'm 40. Oh, my God. So my greatest accomplishment is the freedom I'm feeling right now today here with you is my greatest accomplishment. Recovering from trauma is my greatest accomplishment. It will be the best contribution I can give to the world. I am going to help people because even just being in this state of freedom will help people watching because they will see what they're capable of. Yeah. That's powerful. Do you feel like you'll be able to make a bigger impact in the world by being a mother? Already, yeah. So I've noticed myself in my talks, I would always have a really good boundary, which you have to have, as you know, when we do the work we do.

54:19Because if I'm going to get up and answer questions to people, a lot of my audience is like, you know, coming up being like, I have a brain injury or I'm suicidal or, you know, and I have to hold them in their, in their, in their transformation, but not take it on. But as a mother now, I don't feel that I'm taking it on, but I have a way deeper level of compassion for people that I'd never had before. Cause you're experiencing all this stuff. I'm seeing their innocent child in them. Wow. I don't see them as an adult who hasn't taken care of themselves or as an adult who's done stupid things. I see them as a wounded child and all I want to do is just hold them into love.

54:53And that's, I mean even in one of my talks this one woman was so wounded and I actually went as far as asking her to come up so I could just hug her and that is so against everything I've ever done in my career. Why? I would never like touch someone or you know have it, it doesn't mean that I wouldn't hug somebody like casually but I held her like an I'm a hug, you know what I mean? I was like this is, and I kept holding her and I said you're safe, you're safe, you're safe and I didn't know what came over me. The other thing that's happening is I'm becoming more unapologetic about my mediumship.

55:21So we're all mediums. We all have the ability to listen to spirit and let, but I can, you know, I've throughout my life, I've always heard messages and you know, I'm just like giving messages to people and I always have channeled throughout my talking. But now we're normally I would say, you know, okay, this is the guidance. If I'm hearing it as a guide, I'll say what I'm hearing for you is this and I'll deliver it in a different way. Yeah. So people can receive it, not if they don't believe in some type of medium stuff, they can, they can. Sometimes I'll just tell them, like, I think, you know, your grandmother is telling me Tim's telling you this.

55:51Yeah. Sometimes, not always. I've never had a, someone who calls himself a medium that does this practice on the show. I've been pitched like different mediums to come on and I've always been kind of resistant, but lately I'm like, you know what? I think it'd be a fun experience. Is there someone that you think is like the best There's so many. I mean, yeah, let's talk offline because I could sit here and tell you five or six different names and I don't want to offend anybody out there. I know a lot of mediums. I don't want that one to be like, why didn't you say me on Lewis House? So I'll give you some suggestions.

56:21Okay. They're all good though. It'll be fun. Yeah. What do you think is missing from you to get to the next level in your life, whatever that looks like for you? What's missing? There's a little bit more trauma work that I've got to face. It's not missing though. It's not like it's in perfect time. Around what? What's the trauma around? Just a lot of the sexual trauma, the shame around the sexual trauma. Yeah. Because you talked about it on our show a couple years ago, I think, a couple years ago. And I know you've been doing a lot of work over the last few years with it, but do you feel like you're not fully healed with those things yet?

56:58I don't think I am either. Even though I talk about it for the last six years. You're more healed than ever before, but every person is a lot more. I'm at peace a lot about it, but there's still little triggers. Yeah. EMDR. Yeah, so keep hearing that. I really recommend it to you. Okay, I'll try that. Yeah. Where do you think you'll be once you have that final healing? Freedom is my end game, right? I hope to live for a long, long time feeling free. I did talk with Deepak Chopra yesterday and I was on the plane with him coming here and we were chatting about, I was like, do you feel triggered or traumatized?

57:33He's like, not at all. With nothing? all the time. And it's because of his practice. It's because of his devotion to his practice. So that's, I'm getting closer and closer to that. It doesn't mean I'll be enlightened. It doesn't mean I'll have bad experiences. I won't have bad experiences. It doesn't mean I won't be a human, but that I can feel free even when things are tough. What do you think it is that he has or people like him have that allowed them to have zero connection to, or not allow the ego to affect them in a triggering way, in a reactive, defensive way, guarded, when maybe something bad happens to him.

58:09Maybe a business deal goes down. He's a person who grew up being taught that the divine is the direction, that God was the... I don't want to use language that's not his, but he had a very spiritual upbringing, so it was a foundational experience for him. He's devoted his life to being at ease. And meditates up very early, meditates for two hours, I think, in the morning. I think it's his devotion and commitment that's let him be that way. Isn't it amazing that when I am consistent with my meditation practice, I feel like I'm unstoppable. Like the longer I meditate, I feel like I see, it's like the matrix.

58:46You'll see someone saying something to you. You'll see someone cut you off. And it's exactly what you need. You become a super attractor. This is what the whole book is about, baby. The more we practice being in alignment, the more that unstoppable experience occurs. But when we are just living out of alignment, we feel out of alignment. That's it. Things don't work. That's it. We're pushing. What do you think is missing, from your point of view, as a friend of me, what's missing in my life to help me attract more of good things that I want in my life? I think there's a little more trauma work to do.

59:17I can feel it, and you've said it a few times. And so, I'm going to hold your hand while I say this, because I love you so much, and I will help you if you need any guidance and support just to listen and be there for you. because you have the potential for that same freedom that I'm talking about now. We all do, but particularly you're right there, but there's shame and there's places to go to that I think you're ready to go now. And that it hasn't been, there's been no step along the way that's been an accident. It's all been perfect order for you and it's all been unfolding perfectly and humbling moments and difficult times and things that come up only to get you to the place where you're ready to crack open more and face some of the darkest stuff.

59:56And you need to do that with a, so I'm hearing that you need to do that with a facilitator that you trust, someone that you feel safe with, and someone that will really give you that, hold that space for you to go to the places that scare you. Sounds good. I'm in. Because you're doing really big shit in the world, you know, big stuff, big work, and it's going to be massive the more free you become. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited. I'm excited to continue to work. And I'm really proud of you because the fact that you even asked that question is so major because it means you're willing. Yeah, definitely.

1:00:30I'm so proud. I love you so much. Thank you. I love you. Yeah. And you said the first step is willingness. And what? You said willingness is the key for something before in one of our interviews. Willingness is the catalyst for change because the moment that we become willing, it's like we invite the next right action. We invite God into our life to show us where to go and what to do. the willingness that you've developed over your life over the last 36 years got you into the seat right now with me while we're talking about things that we've both been through for you to say what's next and for me to honestly and authentically say this is what i think is next yeah okay okay so i trust you i trust your willingness i hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links and if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our greatness plus channel exclusively on Apple podcasts, share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple podcasts as well.

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