#266 Dr. Dan Schneider - Ancient Weapons Used Against Demons: Vigils, Fasting and Prayer

30:18It causes tremendous pain, plus the physical pain they feel in the body. Just seeing the priest, he'll take his stole, put it on the neck of the possessed person, which is going back to the vulnerable spot on the base of the neck, where the Genesis 3.15, you will strike at um you will i will put em between you and the woman putting her seed and you you will strike at her heel and she will crush your head this is so weird i just brought this is that is that genesis 3 15 i literally just brought this up in the last interview wow yeah yeah i never bring up scripture because i don't know it yeah yeah it's the only one that I actually...

31:02Yeah, they called the proto... Yeah. So was that a... I mean, now we're going down a rabbit hole. Oh, here we go. Yeah. You know, is that the first prophecy of Jesus Christ? Yeah, they call it the proto-evangelion, the first gospel, the first prophecy. And so you see, I cited you from the Latin, which says, she will crush the head of the serpent, pointing to the woman who will be with the Redeemer, right? And we see in the common experience of exorcist is the efficacy and the power of the Virgin Mary in exorcism. I can just tell you it's game over when she shows up. Game over. Why? Why is that?

31:42Because it's prophecy. I will put enmity between you and her. And that enmity means total, complete opposition. She was preserved from the stain of every sin, original sin and personal sin. She was preserved from the stain of sin, and there is nothing in her. she was preserved from that original sin. And so, she has a place that is far... Her humanity is a perfect humanity. And so, the demon has no place and has no foothold in her like he has in everybody else through generational original sin, our own personal sins. Even if you're baptized today and all sin and punishment of sin is wiped out, you go commit sins, you now get attachments.

32:21You've just given permissions to the demon. But the Latin version says... Original sin is generational. It is the archetypal generational sin. Archetypal in the sense of it sets the pattern. And so that's what the baptism washes you. That's what baptism washes out. Okay. It's the archetypal sin, and every sin follows its pattern, but archetypal in the sense that each one inherits it and is a spiritual and a temporal effect. And so part of the Genesis 315, the Latin translation, is she will crush the head. The Greek translation, very clearly, he will crush the head. So, obviously, the primary emphasis is on Christ, but there is an allusion to a woman that would be with the Redeemer, right?

33:04And then the Greek or the Hebrew is vague. It could be he, she, they. But we see this cooperation with the mother of the Redeemer and with the Redeemer crushing the head of the serpent. And so, in exorcism, the priest will put a stole right on the neck or a crucifix and will place that right on the neck, cause tremendous pain. Or exsufflates, this goes back to Tertullian, second century talks about exorcists blowing. You know, in one of the Eastern rituals of exorcism, the priest exsufflates and breathes on them, just like God breathes over the chaotic waters. You know, the bishop every year in a Catholic diocese breathes over the waters that they will use for baptism to those coming into the church.

33:49This water and spirit rebirth, going back to creation, invoking, that's ritual. You know, that's ritual. And so that, and a lot of it goes back to, it all goes back really to the garden in Genesis 315. It all goes back. Everything is like the same old shoot them up, right? It's like watching a Western movie, it's the same shoot them up. Here we go again. Right on. We talk a lot on this show about protecting your family and being prepared for the worst-case scenario. But there's one area of protection that a lot of us, myself included, for a long time tend to procrastinate on, and that's life insurance.

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38:00Cyprian was his name of Carthage he has one of his quotes and I printed this out because it's so true he said under intense persecution he said let us commend ourselves to vigils fasting and prayers in common vigils, fasting and prayers so doing vigils getting up early, staying up late You know, spending, inconveniencing yourself in prayer, fasting, engaging in the body, and then in prayers, in private prayer. These are the ancient weapons, he says. These are our armaments, our spiritual armaments, our defenses. And this is the body armor that we put on. So fasting, it helps free the soul up. There's something very powerful about it that frees the soul up for prayer, makes the prayer more efficacious.

38:45I was just reading this morning a quote from, I think it was St. John Chrysostom or St. Augustine. And these are fourth century guys, like 400. Okay. He said that you have five bodily senses. And when you fast, you start putting your bodily senses two against one, he says. Kind of like, I know you do some BJJ. You know, I'm on the receiving end. I'm still a white belt. Whenever I'm rolling with guys, they're beating the crap out of me. I don't do BJJ. I suck. I suck really bad at it. Oh, yeah, I do it. I'd be like, oh, yeah, I fucking train every day. No, no. I suck at it. But they always tell you two against one.

39:22If my two hands are stronger against one of your leg or your arm, you've got to go two against one. So I was thinking about that when I was reading this quote about two against one, dividing the senses. And St. Paul says,

39:42the things I want to do, I don't do. What I don't want to do, I do. Who will save me from this body of death. Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord, he says. But part of the effect of original sin, they call it concupiscence, but it's just this tendency towards sin, tendency towards this concupiscence literally means like this lunging, pouncing, grasping, lustful desire for something. And so that's constantly in us. We have to constantly wage war against that. You know, when Jesus said, when the bride, he was accused of not fasting. Why don't your, you know, the disciples of John the Baptist fast, but why don't you fast?

40:21He says, the bridegroom, when he was with them, it's not right that they should fast because we're in the party season right now, right? I'm here. But when the bridegroom is gone, when they take him away, then they will fast. He didn't say when the bridegroom is gone and it fits into their spirituality, then they will fast. He says, then they will fast. This is why we fast specifically on Fridays. Most traditional Catholics don't eat meat on Fridays, and they do other forms of fasting on Fridays because that was the day that they took the Lord from us on Good Friday. But it's just part of spiritual combat.

40:54It's part of not just spiritual combat. It should be part of our spiritual life to make small little sacrifices. It teaches you to make small little sacrifices. Giving up meat, when I first started doing it, and I started doing it when I started getting involved 10, 12 years ago in exorcism. Everybody in our circles, nobody ate meat on Friday, and I was out there chowing down, and I was like, okay. I started getting meat. It's hard. It's hard for a guy from Ohio. You know what I mean? I like meat, you know? I get it. So it's hard, you know? And you can give me all the incredible burgers in the world, but it ain't the same.

41:27And I don't even desire meat until Friday. So those little promptings, but those fastings help you to control, and you're taking it away because the enemy is always constantly tempting us through the body. But if you can pull the body out. Okay. Okay. So this is essentially a discipline, actually. It's a discipline. Yeah, it's a discipline. And in fact, what's interesting is we have a protocol, Lever Cristo Prayer Regiment Protocol. It's a 30-day regiment. You pray certain prayers at 6, 12, and 6. You pray— Why 6, 12, and 6? That's when the Angelus is prayed in the church. You hear bells going off, Catholic Church's bells at 6, 12, and 6.

42:06That's when the church, three times a day, prays the Angelus, which the angel of the Lord declared unto Mary, and she conceived by the Holy Spirit. And so the annunciation from the angel Gabriel to the Virgin Mary that Christ was born at that moment when he announces to her, and she says yes, she says yes and consents to this, Christ is conceived in her through the Holy Spirit. And so that moment, God is now incarnate. Even in embryonic form, He is now on earth in physical form. So you're announcing that, broadcasting that with the church universal around the world at 6 o 'clock, 6, 12, and 6.

42:46This also goes back to the Old Testament and certain prayers, the Shema, Israel, well, great are you, O Lord God of Israel, three times a day, they would pray this prayer. And this is just a Christian version of that. The fullness of time, God sent His Son, the Christian version of that is announcing into the cosmos with the church, uniting that. So that 6, 12, and 6, it's very powerful. And we've had guys, I've had guys that are just doing the discipline as a media fast. So no media, social media, except for absolutely necessary for your work, your vocation. And just that alone, we've seen obsessions break, low-level spiritual obsessions, which are on the pathway to possession, are breaking from that.

43:39Because the demon ultimately is an instrument of chaos. They create nothing. All they can do is—they are instruments of chaos, whether it's interiorly or whether it's on our streets in the big cities. They're instruments of chaos. And so whenever you impose order, the imposition of order is as effective, we found in our experience, as the prayers of exorcism themselves or the minor exorcism or deliverance prayers. Just that imposition of order is half the battle. Wow. Yeah. I've seen people delivered from—we had a seminary in front of mine who's an exorcist, a jodoka. He's the one that's been training me how to be—I will never be more than—you know what an uke is?

44:17No. The uke in judo, that's the guy that gets thrown so the other guy can learn how to throw. I am God's uke, man. So, yeah, I get thrown all the time. But he had a – someone he was working with, a seminarian that was struggling with impurity, addiction, pornography, and they were going to kick him out of the seminary. And I said, no, let's put him on a regimen. Puts him on the regimen with a modification, a little stricter. Within six weeks, it lifted. I've had people, again, struggling with pornography addiction. They've been struggling with maybe they suffered a sexual trauma as a child and they fall into addiction, sexual addictions.

45:01Just that discipline. I've seen many people break that addiction, addiction to alcohol and other things because the demon is constantly driving the interior self with these motions, shame driving you to your lower motions, and working, militating back with the body. If you can start small little sacrifices, little things can help you start to recognize the movement. Like, you know, I was over here as a cab scout. You know what I mean? We're looking. My battle for you was radically different than yours. So I'm over here looking. I'm looking at numbers of troops. I'm looking at movements. I see dust over here, I see the bigger picture, unless I engage, you know.

45:41But you saw the world totally differently. Your spatial and situational awareness is radically different than mine, you know. Not through optics or anything else. Yours is, you're right here and you're watching. And so fasting helps you to increase that spatial awareness, that situational awareness, and you start to recognize the clean from the unclean. So, I mean, when you're talking about, I mean, it sounds like you're thinking back to pornography. If you're addicted to pornography, then that is a, that is, you are creating an entrance for a demon to enter, correct? And so, when a demon is entering, I mean, is it one act and they're in?

46:17You watch porn one time, demons waiting, I'm in. Not usually. Or is that, or is it, or is it the addiction has to snowball? Usually it's, and again, a lot of it's situation, life, what situation in your life, it's, you know, where you're at in your life, et cetera. Not that the sin is not the sin, but if you're a pastor or you're a bishop, it wouldn't take much to get the demon's attention if you're looking at pornography. But normally, it's not necessarily the pornography, it's the psychological obsession. Because a psychological obsession is an open door to a spiritual oppression or even obsession.

47:00So just that woundedness, that psychological obsession, whether that obsession is over a drink, over women, over men, over a certain type of sex, any addiction, any psychological obsession, obsession over even a good thing, not a good thing, but obsession over the death of a loved one. if it's not brought to Christ, obsession, any psychological woundedness attracts the demon. It attracts the demon. It's like in the... So it could take a while for it to be. It might take a while. Yeah, I mean, it's sufficient. Now, theologically, and this is the experience of the church and the exorcist particularly, but one mortal sin, one grave sin is sufficient for possession.

47:47But God in His mercy is so merciful to us. He keeps giving us chances again and again. But at some point when He knows that we're not going to pull away from the sin unless we suffer some, you know, then, you know. You know, if you're walking down the street and a child or your child or a child is walking along and they got a lollipop and they just, they don't pay attention. That's what kids do, you know. And they walk out in the street and here comes a car. You're going to do what you got to do. You're going to grab that arm and, you know, you would hurt that child. There was not, you know, I would say, okay, Sean, would you ever, is there ever a situation that you think that you would, you can see yourself hurting, deliberately hurting a child?

48:29No. No. How about if a bus is getting ready to run them over? Yes. You might dive onto them, knock them out of the way. They might skin up their arm a little bit, but they're going to pick up their candy, wipe it off and keep moving on. So sometimes God allows us to have a little—we do suffer a little bit until we come back to help us. Does that make sense? Yeah. Maybe it's a bad analogy, but yeah. I mean, it's an abuse teacher that's a lesson. He's teaching us a lesson, yeah. Trying to. Yeah. Yeah. So in effect then, yeah, one grave sin is sufficient, but that's not the case. Our experience is there's multiple sins and largely— So sins are like wounds.

49:15Sins are wounds. And the more wounds you have, the more entry points the demon has to cut. Yeah, sometimes, yeah, death by a thousand cuts, it could be. Sometimes it's one big mortal wound. Yeah. For whatever reason, you woke up today and ate stupid soup and went to a prostitute. Yeah, that might be enough. Okay. But now we're talking about possession, but if you do commit a grave act, the demon that led you to that grave act will also be present to you until you renounce, confess, and get rid of it. So let's say we have a veil on right now. We can't see any of this stuff. Yeah. And we lift the veil, and we can see the spiritual realm.

50:01Yeah. What does this look like in here right now? Yeah. How many demons? How many angels? What is one that's half attached, that's trying to get in through multiple sin wounds? What is it, I mean, in your mind, what does it look like? Well, not to sound depressing or anything, but Father Gabriel de Morte was the famous exorcist of the modern age. He brought back exorcism in a time when liberalism and modernism had so penetrated the Catholic Church that there was very few exorcists. Maybe there was like 12. or i did the edits on on his official biography a couple years ago i mean there was like 17 exorcists 12 exorcists united states at one time it was terrible and it was supposed to have one of every diocese so one session he was in he asked he asked the demon how many are you and the demon answered if you could see our numbers we would darken the sun yeah so but there's a spiritual combat taking place as well the angels are battling for us the good angels right the angels and the saints of course our lord you know um that's the the title of god the dominus deus sabbath the lord the god almighty the god of armies this is the god that intercedes for for us always intercedes for israel and now us the church and does battle with the enemy on our behalf and with us you know but but yeah i think if we could see it i think we i think if you could we could hear it you'd hear a lot of swords drawn right you think that's what it is you think it's swords and shields and that kind of battle, or is it something that we just, you know?

51:34Well, swords and shields are the best thing that we can, yeah. There's a scene, this is probably horrible, but I'm a big Van Damme fan, you know? Some of his movies are really cheesy, but there was one movie, I forget which one it was, and he walks into this place of ancient battle before he goes and fights. I don't think it was the Kumitea, I forget which one. And he could hear sword battling and ninjas fighting, and he could see flashes over here, And so I think in the spiritual realm, we would hear that. But it's not physical. It's like St. Paul says, we tear down arguments, we tear down strongholds.

52:12Part of spiritual combat is taking back. The demon has no right to us, but we give him permissions through our sin. And so it's taking those permissions back. It's the enforcing of authority. When the demon usurps authority, he has no authority to be here, right? taking that authority back that we have, according to the office that we have within the church, those are some of the arguments. And sometimes, you know, invoking, again, the precious blood of Jesus, the crown of thorns, the sword of St. Michael, these images, you're projecting images. This is how the demons communicate with us. I mean, the angels as well.

52:53It's projection. It's through, technically, illumination, but in effect, it's like projection. Like projecting thoughts into our mind. Right. And we know this to be true. I mean, sometimes you get this random, bizarre thought like, that's not me. You know, sometimes, again, seeing this play out in session, you go into a session, and after the session, we always do an after action review. right the priest like all right what's going on what you guys get what you guys you know just like okay everybody has an assignment it's very what what drew me to it not every every model is a little different there's some you know there's there's some models that are just cowboys and i would never do it that way it's not safe the way we do it the father ripaguer in our group is it's it's very systematic it's very militaristic somebody's in charge of perimeter somebody's in charge of instructor you're praying for the priest you're praying for this person you're watching the priest.

53:51You're watching his hands. So in a court of law, you'll never not see his hands. So in a court of law, you can testify that his hands were always in front of him. He never touched her. Because the demon, I can't tell you how many times the person comes out of the session and says, did Father rape me? Did he molest me? The demon just starts projecting these images. That's what he does. So he can take the dab set that's embedded into our imagination, right our memories and yours are different than mine we both will have memories there's if if we hear a call if we hear a muslim call to prayer right now both of us are going to trigger in a certain way right i mean because we have memories um other people will be like that's a weird sound you know but we so so all those memories all of our emotions all of our past the demon has access and he can manipulate those and he can put a spin on it and project uh project an image of it and to try to draw you out of your armor, draw you down out of the intellect, the higher faculty, into the emotions and the instincts.

54:51And this is where he draws us out. And so that's how he does it. He'll project it, and he'll project shame. You know, if you were molested by a guy with a Fu Manchu mustache and wore a John Deere ball cap and, you know, certain cologne, and all you have to do is put two or three of those, things together in any combination, project the memory of that past abuse, and suddenly you're in a lower state. You're now living in the shame of the emotions. And that's when he starts, okay, pounding you away, pounding away at you. You're scum. You're no good. You need to go self-medicate, whatever you're self-medicating.

55:33He doesn't really care if it's booze, if it's drugs, if it's sex, if it's, you know. So the demons project. The angels do too. They project good inspirations to us to try to tempt us in a sense to draw us away from the sin. But that's where the battle's taking place. It's at that level. Wow. You get a general rule. If you're getting a negative thought about somebody, it's probably diabolic, right? I hate this guy. This guy's probably thinking this. You know, it's probably the demon just trying to cause some kind of division. So part of prayer and fasting helps you to do battle with that. I was talking to a friend of mine.

56:17We worked some cases together, and now he's stopped active work, and he's living as a hermit. I mean, a shed in upstate New York with his religious order, but he's a hermit. So all he does is pray all day. Do you think that's a good thing? Yeah. You do? Oh, yeah. That's what's saving the world. Those guys, the monastic, the consecrated virgins, those are the ones that are holding up through their prayer. That's interesting. I don't see. Yeah, the world's functional. Why aren't they working with blind kids? Why aren't they working with schools? Why don't they go to hospitals? But it's like in the book of Genesis, there's this battle of Amalek.

57:07I don't know if you recall the battle. Joshua was down in the battlefield. And Moses sat there and he raised his arm and held his staff in prayer. And every time he kept his arms up, they were victorious. And then as he got tired, his arms dropped, and then the guys in the battlefield would lose the fight. And so I think Aaron and Hur, they sat next to him and held his arms up. And it said they mowed down Joshua, mowed down the enemy that day. And the early church fathers saw that as a type of prayer, intercessory prayer, a type of Christ on the cross, a type of the priest holding up the Eucharist, but it's the monastic sisters, the consecrated virgins.

57:52Those are the real deep operators. Those are the dev group. Those are the Siltim Six of the mystical body. They're the ones holding up, holding up Christ projecting to the cosmos, holding up the church symbolized by the priest, holding up so that their prayers, now you and I are in the battlefield in the act of life. So, somebody sent me a video this week of the installation of a poor Claire. This is interesting. And it really ties in to all of the cosmology and the demons and these other things. And a poor Claire is, they follow the life of St. Francis and Claire of Assisi. And they live completely cloistered, barefoot.

58:41okay they sleep on straw beds and I gave a presentation to them not long ago amazing women beautiful women from age 20 to age 80 beautiful women these are heavy hitters so in the part of the ceremony which is interesting they um when they're she's taken into the to make her her initial vows um she's dressed in a wedding dress hairs down beautiful and she's presented as a bride of Christ. And then they do part of the ceremony, then they go back into a back room, they cut her hair off, or most of it, they put on her veil, her habit, and she comes out in the religious habit, barefoot. And now she's now no longer this person, she's the bride of Christ, and this is what they wear.

59:30And these women are doing penance and prayer for the world. Carmelites, Hercleres, Franciscan hermits and others. So this is, it's the unseen warfare that's taking place that nobody sees. So I'm watching this and, you know, I'm a tough guy. You know what I mean? I'm your basic, you know, repress your emotions, regular guy. And I'm watching this and I'm getting teary. I'm like, what's going on? But I realized I just watched the graduation. I just watched the mystical body, the spiritual combat version of you guys when you would hold up that log, you know, and all you were together and laying on the ground and under the water and drowning and all this other crazy stuff you guys had to do for your initiation.

1:00:15I just watched a seal be born, you know? Interesting. Wow. I just saw, I mean, these are Apache helicopters. And I know unless you see it in action, I can tell you, you can say, hey, and I was a Cobra guy, right? When you hear the Apaches coming, it's a good feeling, right? When I saw that, I was like, yeah. Wow. There was an Apache. Because they're offering their bodies as virgins. Wow. Their virginal bodies as brides of Christ offering and sacrifice. And these women, I was talking to some of the Carmelites or another order. How many of these are there? There's pockets all over the world. At this particular monastery that I'm talking about, there's about 25 of them.

1:01:01and another monastery of Carmelites that I work closely with, there's about 12 of them. There's pockets all over the world. Nobody knows, they're just hidden. You just don't see them. The enemy knows them. The enemy knows them, you know. Interesting. Yeah, but it's that virginal. So when you combine virginal purity and a spiritually bridal relationship with Christ, symbolizing the church suffering for souls, suffering for humanity that's that's the real comment this is this is the the patches this is the the b-52s whenever we would hear the b-52s it was like yes sir you guys keep going make it easy for us but that's that's a spiritual that's that's the deeper spiritual combat people don't don't really understand okay yeah when you were talking about the angels and demons were I think you said created on, did you say created on day two?

1:02:01Yeah. Why would God create demons? Why would he create that? Yeah. So there's two misconceptions. One is God created demons and created angels. And then there's another one that says the demons are, I think it's Genesis chapter 6 or chapter 10, the Nephtali. and Nephilim, they said the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were attractive, and they had relations with them and created a race of giants. And so going back to a 300 BC book of Enoch that gets kind of repurposed in Kabbalistic mystical Judaism in the Middle Ages, and a little past the Reformation time period, it started, this became the demons are the product of angels who have sex with women, right?

1:02:52The Nephilim. The Nephilim, sorry, yeah, the Nephilim. But that's, you know, St. Augustine, St. Chrysostom, St. Thomas Aquinas, that's impossible. They have no bodies, okay? That doesn't mean they can't rape, okay? But they can't procreate. They can't procreate. So the developed understanding, again, the church has been cogitating this for 2 ,000 years. We see the common understanding is day two. God separates light from the darkness. An angel is created. Every angel is created good. They're created with a mission. You're going to be a SEAL. You're going to be a Cobra pilot. You're going to be a cook.

1:03:36You're going to work in Intel. You're going to work. You're going to be a tanker. I don't want to be a tanker I don't care you're going to be a tanker and I'm not going to serve you yeah so they were given a mission they knew everything about their mission accordingly and those who those who rejected with Lucifer fell down to the earth but they were created good and at that point in the rejection of God because they don't have the body you know how many times you make a mistake because you're hungry or hangry and you're like I shouldn't have I shouldn't have said it to that guy you go hey man I'm sorry You know, their decision, because they had a perfect understanding and a perfect intellect, their decision was permanent.

1:04:16It was forever. And so they became fallen angels or demons. And then the good angels that said yes to God, they became glorified angels. So we have glorified and fallen angels. And that's what's happening cosmically in the spiritual battle. We think from Revelation chapter 12, it said a third of the angels fell, right? In this cosmic battle, there's St. Michael. There's the Ark of the Covenant, who is also the woman, right? Who is the woman from Genesis 3. A third of the angels fell. Right. In Revelation 12, it says a third of the angels were thrown from the sky. And so that's how many is that?

1:04:58I don't know. if we know that jesus himself says that alludes to guardian angels right um do not despise when these little ones for their angels in heaven um with the father you know i mean so each of us has a guardian angel and how many billions have been present of humans on earth and there's nine choirs you know totally uh you know so you're talking myriads and myriads is what the kind of the language of scripture how many so we don't know but a third of whatever a third of a myriad of a myriad is that's a lot of fallen angels so they're they're outnumbered two to one you're outnumbered two to one but they cheat and it doesn't feel like it it doesn't feel like it i'll tell you that much well because we're not praying we're not living our christian faith because that old saying that we use is that angels go where they're asked we is in humanity humanity yeah angels go where they're asked demons go where they're not resisted we're not offering in a resistance.

1:05:54We're not offering resistance. We're not praying. We're losing our faith as Christians. We're becoming post-Christian. And to be post-Christian is to be neo-pagan, really. That's what we're seeing. We're seeing this play out in real time. What do you mean? Well, remember Obama, President Obama? He said, the United States is no longer, the United States is post-Christian, is what he said. And so nature and preternature, and supernature, they abhor a void, right? And so as Christianity weakens, pre-Christianity is now regaining strength. And so we're seeing a rise in paganism, like we say, the old gods.

1:06:40You know, what you guys did, you know, we did, I'm the pilot, you know, but that clear, hold, build, right? That applies to you and me, our families, you know? You got to clear the evil out. You got to clear the garbage out. You got to hold the ground that you took. You go into a village and you clear it. Then you bring in the Marines, right, to hold it. But then you got to build it. You got to expand it. You got to start making alliances. You have to, you can't just, because you clear it, they're coming back. You clear it, you hold it, they're coming back. You got to build it. You got to build a bigger infrastructure.

1:07:14You got to hold that ground by building. society if you look at western civilization it was clear hold bill and it built for centuries and now it's it's absurd to think that it's not they're not going to come back and try to reclaim the ground wow that's a damn good point let's go back to the nephilim real quick so okay are you saying that you don't believe that the that the fallen angels bred with no humans yeah that's what I'm saying. So is the Nephilim just a complete, it's just a line of bullshit? No. So, yeah, the Book of Enoch was written, which is not scripture, and it had some Gnostic tendencies in it, which is a dualistic view of good, evil, good God, bad God, matter and spirit, matter is bad, the body's bad, the spirit.

1:08:06So that's Gnosticism, very, very simply put. But it had some elements of that in it, but it's not scripture. It has some historical elements in it, but a lot of it's not reliable for theology, per se. It might be reliable for some historical things. And so, this came through that. This is where I think most of it comes in the modern time. And you hear, the ones who mostly are putting it out are people that came out of the occult or people that were possessed, because this is what the demon is telling them. We're a special race. We're half-breeds. We have power of you. We're different than those angels up in the sky.

1:08:42They're just, we are special. No, they're not. They were cast from the earth for their disobedience, cast from the heavens to the earth for their disobedience. So in the early church, you had a couple of fathers. This is, again, we have to kind of look at, okay, here's what scripture says, and how did the church receive it? She had a couple of fathers, Tertullian, Irenaeus, alluded to that, that that could be possible. By the time you get to Augustine, around 400 in the West, and then St. John Chrysostom in the East, and then it develops from there. if we started to get our understanding of angels and demons more, and then our understanding that, no, a fallen angel is a fallen angel.

1:09:18An angel is the same. They are the same class, so to speak. One is fallen, one is glorified. And then, again, by the fourth century, they're saying, no, this is false to say that a demon can procreate, and they cannot. It goes against their very nature. We go to a funeral, and someone will say, well, Grandma is an angel in heaven. No, I'm sorry. She's not. You know what I mean? She's not an angel in heaven. If she's in heaven, praise God. If not, she's in purgatory on her way to heaven, purifying herself of her attachments on her way to heaven, or she's damned. Those are the only three realities.

1:09:52They either are saved or not. And so it's a metaphysical impossibility for me to become an angel. And so angels didn't procreate with humans. So what we see of that, and there's what Augustine argues is, look, the sons of Seth, right? Cain killed Abel. Adam and Eve had a third child. Seth, who was a righteous son, who called on the name of the Lord. That phrase, calling on the name of the Lord, is a trigger of watching the bloodline of the Messiah, right? And so Augustine—and then you look at some of the other signals from Scripture. the line of Cain, the wicked line of Cain that practiced polygamy, that practiced that evil entered in.

1:10:41Through the line of Cain, the wicked son, we see the sons of God are the line of Seth, ultimately the line of Christ. And the sons of men are the earthly, you know, those who militate against the people of God. And so they drew various conclusions. This is what happens when good families allow their children to marry godless people. That's one of the things Augustine says. But they traced it back globally, the bigger cosmic picture, to the bloodline of Jesus Christ. But there's a lot of misunderstanding, but no, that's a metaphysical and physical impossibility for an angel to have sex. To inseminate.

1:11:28Let me pass that. Because they can, and there are incubus, incubi and succubi, that do sexually molest. But that's not the same as insemination. What we're talking about here is insemination, creating a being. Now, can they have ritualistic ceremonies, and the byproducts of those ritualistic ceremonies are to try to produce this bloodline or that bloodline or whatever? Yeah, but that's not Nephilim. That's not the creation of... That would be some type of a possession within humanity to create a mass of people that breed together for whatever reason they want. And if you think of it, if we know this to be true that we're familiar with, if that was the case and that you're creating, you're taking possessed people that are following false religions, demonic religions, and drawing out the bloodline of where the Messiah will come from, the Davidic bloodline, the Messianic bloodline, And if we start intermingling all these, the wicked with the good, right, it's not a good thing.

1:12:35And so, even in Scripture, it was like, they created this race of giants. What were the giants? Men of renown, right? Well, physical, who knows? Spiritual? David, I mean, Goliath was a giant. He had four brothers of giants. Now by giant, you know, Goliath was, depending on the Hebrew, he was six feet some, 6 '6". And I think it was one of the ancient versions, I think it was the Latin was six foot six, and the Greek he was like nine foot tall. So big guys. Yeah. Yeah. So what is the Book of Enoch? It is. So it says that in there. Yeah. What you say is not factual, so why is anybody referenced?

1:13:27And just being a podcaster, the only people that really talk about Enoch are people that are very, very conspiratorial. Right. Yeah, so it's not scripture. It's a non-scriptural book. There's Enoch. There's the life of Moses. In the time of Christ, there were... various gospels, the gospel of St. Thomas, you know, there was a gospel of Judas, and Judas is like wicked, you know, the new one, Judas is now the good guy, you know, and so there's various other writings that were what we would call a procto or even just historical, you know, so, and sometimes they say things that, yeah, we know that to be, that's, that might be true, and historically we know this to be true, affirmed for other places, But this is a little more mystical, and it gets, from my understanding, it was that it was more during, it was picked up by the Kabbalistic, kind of mystical, Gnostic, more modern Judaism.

1:14:35And then some groups, you know, some conspiracy guys use it in other things, but again, I just stick to Scripture and what do the Church Fathers say about it? Right. Because it's kind of like the guys right after, you know. Yeah. A hundred years from now, we're trying to investigate what was it like to be on the seals. Well, let's look to the guys that did it, and let's look to the next generation after that and what they received and how they understood it, you know. Gotcha. Yeah. Gotcha. So it's not scripture. It's just a book from Judaism in that time period. Okay. Yeah. Well, Dan, let's take a quick break.

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1:18:51I love it. This is golden. Yummy bears. Demons hate those things. I'm going to get them blessed. I'm going to get them blessed. He's going to mouth. Yeah. And thank you. And then we still have Patreon. You know, that's our community that we have online. It's a subscription platform. And so we give them the opportunity to ask every single guest a question. This is a pretty good one. This is from Louis Mello. Mr. Schneider, how should someone who lived a sinful or undisciplined life in their youth go about forming a personal prayer rule? What practices would you recommend to help nurture repentance, spiritual healing, and steady growth in virtue while avoiding discouragement or doubt?

1:19:37Yeah, that's a huge one. That's our society right now. And the fact that you're even asking the question is fantastic. It's that desire. Working on virtues. Start militating against whatever your previous defects were. Minimize your social media. so all those images don't get projected back to draw you back into that way of thinking, that time of your life when you were farthest from God. Small things of repentance and penance, giving up meat on Fridays, doing some fasting, maybe doing some hard fasting. I like to do 24-hour fasting, so I'll have dinner and I won't eat anything all day for the next day.

1:20:21do that two or three days a week to kind of train your body in the lower parts of your flesh that are trying to constantly militate and draw you back into that life. Prayer is extremely important because it's through prayer that we start meditating on Scripture, reading 15 minutes of Scripture every day. For me, I pray three or four rosaries a day. If you have a rosary, it's very powerful. But 15 to 30 minutes of meditating on Scripture because what that does, it starts reprogramming your thinking. All those images in your mind and your memory starts to getting pushed out and replaced with images of Christ or the truth that comes from Scripture.

1:20:58So prayer, meditation, a disciplined prayer life. Get a copy of this book, Deliverance Prayers for the Laity. That's Father Ripperger. I gave you a copy, Sean, last time. Get a copy of that and start praying some of the perimeter prayers every day. There are certain prayers that be praying, spiritual warfare prayers every day to drive the demon away on a daily basis. But having a set time is very important. I'm going to get up at the same time every day. You know, this is the Jordan Peterson, get up and make your bed. That discipline is very important. So to the extent that you spent your previous life in dissipation, now put as much effort into growing in holiness.

1:21:38Thank you. Thank you. All right, let's dig into this outline. So origins in nature of spiritual beings i know we kind of talked a little bit about that you know that the angels were created on the second day what were they created or were they were they always there with them no created they were there's only one one uncreated being and that's the triune god the unmoved mover the you know so so only god is uncreated from the beginning Remember in John's Gospel, in the beginning, in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. So God, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, the Trinity, this is the only uncreated.

1:22:19So the angels, fallen or glorified, are still created. They're created beings. They're creatures. They're unique. Each is their own species, right? So which is—we can't even understand that. You know, a camel, the difference between a camel and a grasshopper is pretty great, but they're still part of the same species of creature, animal kingdom. Each angel is his own species. Oh, God. So I've had people say, well, I'm a demonologist. And I was like, okay, like, can you narrow it down to, say, one class or, you know, I mean, one type? I mean, it's impossible. Even getting into angelology and understanding, you can't understand.

1:23:02Here's what I think the Nephilim is where it's a distraction. because you can't understand the demon unless you understand the angel, what they were created for. You know, when bank tellers, in the old days, before they had machines, they would never let their fingers touch a fake bill when they trained them. So when they finally get to a fake one, they're like, I know what a good one feels like. So we can only understand demons in light of what they were created for. And if you understand the natural law that they were created for, as this preternatural entity created with a specific task, whether it was the seraphim, the tapas, the highest choir, the burning ones we see, and that before the throne of God, the cherubim, Isaiah and Ezekiel that hold up God, the thrones, if they're in that choir or all the way down closest to us, you can't understand what the demon's doing unless you understand the the the who they were at their creation what their mission was okay okay what otherwise i'm sorry but if they're if they're created this what they try to do is they try to say we're special beings we're different than them and you have no idea how to deal with us we're a mystery no you're not a mystery in fact the demon is the most um regulated entity in the cosmos strictly regulated by God.

1:24:30When he manifests, it's because God is allowing it to happen. Why do you say the cosmos? I'm just curious. Because I think that's the word that best— Why would they be in the cosmos if nobody's out there? I think, well, cosmos, I'm talking about the space, the spiritual space around us, not necessarily between here and the moon. By cosmic or cosmology, it's the creation of of God's created order, right? A cosmologist is a woman that puts hair back in order. So cosmology is the created order of God. So we can't see it. It's invisible. Yeah. Like in the creed, we see, I believe in all things visible and invisible.

1:25:14What do you think God was doing before the universe was created? Do you ever think about that? I mean, if he created everything and he was always there, then what was he doing? I mean, We don't even know what he's doing now. But what was he, you know, where is he hanging out? What's he doing? Who's he? I mean, that's a pretty lonely existence. I don't think so. It's lonely if he was. Yeah, it could be great. Yeah, I mean, he was, you know, God is three, right? But one, one God, three persons. And so living in a state of, I don't know. I mean, do you ever think about that? No. Why not? I don't know.

1:25:52Now I'm going to be pondering, what was God doing? How long did it take him to go, I'm going to make some humans? I'm going to make some humans that will glorify me and really piss me off. I'm going to make some angels too. No kidding. So, again, some of the church fathers talk about processions, that God is in a continual state of a procession of love between the love of the Father and the love of the Son. and the love of the Father and the Son and the Holy, you know, bringing forth in this procession of love, divine procession, bringing forth the Holy Spirit in this co-equal. What's interesting, though, you talk about how the ancient demons, one of the things that we'll do in part of our catechetical session is, or you can make them, the priest will make them do it during an exorcism, read the Athanasian Creed.

1:26:54And you can see this diagram. You can Google it. The Athanasian Creed, the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit is, is not. And it's just, and, you know, and then Athanasius wrote a creed about the Trinity, the inner life of the Trinity and understanding that. And so that causes torment to the demon. It causes torment to the demon when you force their host to read that through the eyes that they are appropriating. It causes torment to see the triune God. But all they can do at best is to try to distort the image, us. And so what God was doing at the beginning, I don't know. I think He was an eternal self-emanation of glory and love.

1:27:40And I don't know what that spiritual party looked like, but we're going to find out someday, God willing. Yeah, I hope so. So what is the difference between demons and ghosts? So when we talk about ghosts... We were talking about this encounter I had off camera in the cabin. Right, yeah. So I saw that and I thought, oh man, Sean's messing with fire. Yeah. I wasn't messing with anything. I was not messing with anything. But you made the right decision. Tim was there. Were you? Tim was there. Yeah. But you know what? When you know it, it's time to bug out. That's what we did. You know what I mean?

1:28:15We didn't wait. No. As soon as we heard that, it was cut the cameras, get everything out of here. Let's go back to the house. I want to see the footage. And then we pulled the footage up and there was a static on every footstep. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. So when we're talking about a ghost, we're talking technically about a purgative soul, a soul that has died, that is also disembodied, but is a soul of a human that's in the process of purgation, of cleansing, of purification on his way to heaven. It's a saved soul, but it's a soul in purgatory. That would be when we talk about a ghost. And it's allowed, again, very strictly by God, allowed to go back to ask for prayer, to make satisfaction for some sin that they committed.

1:29:07A ghost, that would be a ghost. a purgative soul. A demon is a fallen angel that's infesting the place, usually because some grave sin was there. Either somebody did some satanic ritual to invoke the presence

1:29:26to draw the demon there, or a grave sin took place there, abortion, murder, whatever, and that the demon is now saying, this is my space. I drove this guy to kill his wife here. I'm going to chill here because this is my space. What do you think I encountered? What's that? What do you think we encountered? Do you have any idea? You can tell that they track differently, by the way. Let me give full context here just for the audience. So we did this. It was actually a survival challenge. We came back. We rented this World War II cabin, Airbnb, out in the woods. Very old place. And we did a debrief there about the challenge.

1:30:05in the middle of the debrief while we were filming we heard footsteps upstairs it was a loft nobody was up there we knew nobody was up there before when we before when we were setting up we had a lot of problems with the electrical outlets and stuff signs would like a sign wouldn't light up and then and then a camera would work if we plugged it in or like all kinds of weird stuff going on with the electrical but yeah when we heard the footsteps and all of us heard it we cut the cameras cleaned everything up took off pulled the footage reviewed it and every single footstep there's static you can still hear the footsteps too if i remember right but um and there's no static anywhere else so then i had an encounter there about a year or two prior we me and my wife stayed there we heard knocking i heard knocking on the walls but i chalked it up to a dream.

1:31:02And then I pulled the reviews, the Airbnb reviews, and it's, don't knock on the walls, they knock back, don't come after dark, da-da-da-da-da, this place has a mind of its own. So, I mean, it's haunted. It's haunted. Something's in there. Something's in there. Yeah. Yeah, you can kind of track by, number one, the reaction to prayer. once you know um if it's if it's um um if it gets better with prayer it's it's probably and again the the chances are statistically in my experience anyway and i think this would be the common experience of most exorcists and those who work closely with them the common experience would be most likely it's infestation of place by a demon um so who knows what um so you think that would been a demon.

1:31:49Probably. I mean, because it's very rare that you would see a purgative soul come back. Now, it does happen. They're asking for prayer. But the reaction to prayer usually makes it go away. It gets better. It's not destructive. I mean, if you hear knocking on the walls and it knocks back in a strange cabin at night, you're going to get a fear of flight or flight response. So that alone isn't enough to tell you if it's diabolic or not. But if it's messing with the electrical, if it's messing with, you know, some of the fruit, if it's messing, if it's causing division, oftentimes when you have an infestation of place, there's a lot of family fighting going on.

1:32:30There's a lot of... I've had a lot of these encounters. I mean, not a lot of them, but, you know, we're on the front lines of where the Civil War happened right here, you know, this whole town. And so there's ghost tours and all kinds of stuff going on all over the place out here but i mean i just another example i remember we when we when me and my wife moved up here we were looking for a place went to this place way out in the middle of nowhere there's cemetery on it and i was like i'm not i don't want somebody else's cemetery on my on my land i'm with you on that and um so we i'm i i was like i don't even know why we're going to look at this place like we're we're not doing i'm not doing not gonna buy a place with somebody else's bodies buried in the ground yeah and from a family that's not our chances are in this part of the world there's a free masonic symbol on about every other grave tomb anyway she was like well maybe it's it's probably all the way on the other side of the property is it was uh i don't know 30 40 acres maybe get there it's right out the kitchen window you see it and there's a there is a dilapidated slave quarters right next to the cemetery and they tell us that and my wife goes don't worry they they they she goes if this place was haunted she goes it would it would communicate through the electric yeah boom the lights all went off yeah on and off like three or four times right when she and i was like you mean like that yeah and um and to be honest with you we actually want to put an offering on the place and i went over there with a had a cup of coffee i was like look i'll come out here talk to you guys but if you freak me out i will bulldoze all your asses all the way over to on the side of the front but i was so anyways i'm just saying like this stuff has happened to me you know and it sounds woo woo to a lot of people but it's happened to me it's a lot of it's happened to a lot of people yeah but i mean you some people are not as sensitive to it.

1:34:34Some people are more naturally sensitive to it than others. I think on a spiritual level, you're more sensitive to this stuff. But also as an operator, you're like, your head's on a swivel all the time. You can't beat that out of you. You can't not see things, you know? And so, yeah, I think you're better off. You know, we deal with it all the time. Now, sometimes people say, I had this house was, you know, was haunted. And then I moved in with my, I got my baby daddy. And then that was haunted. Then I moved in with my sister. And then her trailer was haunted. And then I got an apartment and that was haunted.

1:35:10Like, hey, there's a pattern here, you know. It's not the place, it's you. You're the one that's got somebody following you. But there are actual places. You can, you know, I think we talked about on the last show, the Devil on Brownsville Road was an epic, it was a New American or American Chinese, one of the magazines described it as, I think they're coming out with a movie. This was a place where there was an Indian burial site, I mean, a slaughter, Native American slaughter. There was some slaughter, some settlers or something. And then later it became an abortuary, and then later this house became...

1:35:44a local witch buys it, you know, witchcraft. So these people buy it and it was just a, I mean, like Amityville horror stuff, walls bleeding and everything else. and so um they ended up the walls bleeding i think so i i i've never personally seen that but i know it's happened um like crazy stuff like on the like what blood just comes yeah yeah i've never seen it so but but this house had crazy stuff going on and they fought it out and um they went two years and the priest that was assigned there um had a had a woman that was supposedly seeing what's going on behind the scenes and was giving this guy a bunch of bad intel.

1:36:27And so he never went, he said, you can't go into this place, you have to do it from out here. And they ended up calling in an expert, another exorcist from another diocese who was a very known by-the-book guy and got rid of it in about two or three months versus like, it lingered for a couple of years, but it was nasty. So they're claiming that place, they're saying, hey, this is my place. We were here first. I claim this. Demons are very territorial. So a demon will attach itself to a human. He doesn't care. And or a residence, a location, a venue. It has to do with his assignment, his inclination towards that assignment, what he was created for.

1:37:06If he was created to preserve marriage and the sanctity of marriage, he's going to start militating now against marriage and towards homosexuality and other things. So he's just going to start working the opposite. He was there to guard the space or guard this territory or working with the guy that's in charge of this territory. He's now going to claim that territory. So, probably a dumb question, but what happens if he just bulldozed the house over? Oh, he doesn't care about the structure. He's... It's the space. It's an actual perimeter. It's the perimeter. Yeah. It's the perimeter. Do you...

1:37:38Can... That's why I pray the perimeter prayer. I mean, I pray that... That's a prayer you should pray every day for your families. Praying that perimeter. You're laying down in Constantinople. You're making it hard to get in. You pray that every day? At least twice a day. What other prayers do you pray every day? There's prayers of consecration. I pray, consecrate all my actions, all my temporal goods to the Blessed Mother. Prayer of St. Patrick's Breastplate, invocation of Heavenly Host. I pray multiple rosaries a day. I'm constantly trying to put lead downrange and string up the concertina wire.

1:38:15you know so um plus i try to do mental prayer every day i try to go to mass every day um do you think this conversation that we're having does anything in the spiritual realm absolutely yeah what does it do well an operator's best your best um one of your greatest friends is silence you know, we own the night, right? So, to pop a, you know, even if it's a temporary flare, you know, a flash, it brings some light out, and people see the good, and they recognize. Again, you shouldn't watch something like this or get into this out of curiosity. It should be to help you grow in your spiritual life and become a better Christian.

1:39:06That's the whole point, is how to overcome evil in your own life, you know? Mm-hmm. And because curiosity itself can be an open door. You know, St. Augustine said... That's not good for me that... Well, knowing it, doing it for the right reasons. You want to learn about this. Mm-hmm. You know, I'm going to join the SEALs because... I want to understand it. I want the patch. I want the... What's a trident? Mm-hmm. And I want the coolness, but I don't want to get shot at. You mean I got to go days without sleep and I can't? No, no, I want the cool stuff. No, spiritual combat is just a grind. It's just the grind of basic soldiering, you know, but you got to do it for the right, you have to understand what your enemy's doing.

1:39:52You're not going to, you never went into battle not knowing who you're up against, at least having a good idea. So we don't want to open that door through curiosity. That's not safe. St. Augustine said the demon, three things attract the demon to us. The first thing he says is an unholy curiosity. Basically, if you go looking for the devil, he'll find you. So you have to just, it can't be an unhealthy curiosity versus a studiosity. How can I help this? How can this help me grow closer to Christ? The demon in spiritual combat is tertiary. Primary focus is Jesus Christ. We have to stay focused on him.

1:40:27And secondary, what are the obstacles that keep me from getting closer to being united with Christ. And then finally, what is the demon doing? So the intel only helps us understand what's blocking us. If I'm hitting his radar for something, he thinks I'm vulnerable here, then I better work on that. This is why I started pathetically, in a very bad way, learning judo and jujitsu a year ago, because I really wanted to understand, because I'm a striker, I'm a boxer, and I wanted to learn this whole different mentality of combat sports, which I'm good at you know like i said i'm i am i'm a parental white belt but learning how to feel pressure counter pressure how to look at multiple moves after you know you've you've done it as well so that's spiritual combat it's judo in many i mean it's still striking don't be wrong it's mma but um but but that curiosity if you're doing it i'm learning it so i can become a better Christian, a better father, a better husband, you know, then you're moving into studiosity.

1:41:34Excuse me. Would demons attach themselves to things? Could they attach themselves to an antique, a chest, a chair, a gun, stuff like that? Right. Yeah, they can. Objects. The technical term would be secondary causality. They would allow, they use objects to bear their power. and not unlike blessed holy water, a blessed crucifix. When a crucifix or a rosary or scapular is blessed, it bears the blessing of Christ through his church. And so it's a sacramental. It carries the power of the church. I've had cases where we just can't quite figure it out. And I'll put two cups of holy water. This is off session, just doing catechesis.

1:42:37one's blessed holy water, one is not blessed. And tell me which one, are these different? Every time, yeah, this one's hotter. They can feel the difference because it carries that blessing of Christ to the church. So the demon works off that same. Again, the demon, everything he does is a complete counterfeit and mockery and reversal of an ape of what is true and good and pure. What we see in the sacramental system, in our case, the sacramental system of blessings, you know, crucifixes. So the demon's going to do the opposite. They're going to use sage, they're going to do... they have all sorts of other objects that they use the agency of immaterial things, meaning like we use oils, salts, metals, that the church says, yes, this is a sacramental.

1:43:28And so the demons do that. So Chucky dolls, seen those. Yeah. For whatever reason, I don't know. What do you mean you've seen them? Seen them where? Well, I had three different cases that had Chucky dolls, some version of a Chucky doll involved. What are the cases? One of them was, it was a single mom, and she just reported. and other people reported so it's not just someone tells me because who knows but these are verified but she was a single mom and she um um went into the daughter she was she was pretty heavily afflicted she went into the daughter's bedroom was cleaning up and she would hear the the chucky doll you know a little doll with the pull string saying things off script like why are you leaving me here alone come in here and get me holy cow yeah yeah that'll that'll put a fear of god in you yeah yeah Yeah, yeah.

1:44:26So... What do you do with an object like that? You know, real quick, I mean, my... my head security guy who we're both mutual friends with, I don't want to say his name on here, but he... we talk about this kind of stuff quite often, and he had brought up... I had... I mean, you see all this stuff in here. Yeah. It was all from my previous life or guests of mine. the infinity of creighton it's all it's all like historic stuff yeah it's historic ed calderon gave me this statue of a santa muerta are you familiar with that he gave me a santa muerta that he um he took out of a taxi that was smuggling drugs into the united states it was a wax figure cracked it in half full of heroin there's a whole trunk full of these things so he gave me one um without the heroin of course and and kind of like put it back together is like is a is a is a keepsake you know for the studio it's right up there i put a rosary around it yeah it's next up yeah you know that stuff up there he says i need to get rid of that thing i actually slipped my mind since he told me that until we're just having this exact conversation of what what do you think i'm going to quote a famous rapper mc hammer it's hammer time i i would get rid of it really because these things act they carry the curse that came with them they carry the curse they also use statues of the virgin mary and smuggle drugs over i had a lady church lady saw this beautiful statue what she thought she wanted to rescue it from a pawn shop brings it home she said everything ever since i brought that into my home um there's just been strife and problems and i said well i looked i said what does that have a big thing and i described it she's like yeah i said yeah that was probably used to smuggle drugs across the mexican border to get rid of it so bless burn and bury i've got to i put the formula in and i'm not plugging books i'm just telling you i'll give you the formula i'll cut and paste it for you destroy it render it inoperable pray pray a couple of prayers of that god would decommission the evil from it and smash it break it up and then sprinkle it into uh running water or bury it i would put it into running water and let it flush away.

1:46:42Okay. We've seen everything from cursed rosaries. You know, they're satanic rosaries that are out there. Yeah. Yeah, they're coming from China, and Satanists are cursing them and shipping them to parishes, you know, give these out to the kids. The glow-in-the-dark ones, every Catholic kid had glow-in-the-dark rosaries, you know. And so we had some come to a parish once, and they just showed up, like, oh, this is great, there are samples of these rosaries. and uh church lady tried to then she realized there's satanic symbols on them so she she put them into her fireplace and tried to burn them and it smoked her house out are you serious yeah so i am i'm the the dirty jobs guy you know so like oh okay let dan get rid of it you know now we've learned over the years no you get rid of it well in this case the pastor should have been with me but or somebody has some object from grandpa some garbage or whatever they they destroy it we'll walk him through but this this case i i destroyed it so i take it take it out to a remote place going to bless burn and bury him throw it and so i i had it burning and right when i started lighting it up four dogs came out of the out of the brushes and surrounded me and this is before the sean ryan show i didn't i didn't have my uh my p365 legion i had i had something it didn't matter what i had it was sitting in in my in my jeep and i didn't and and they surrounded me.

1:48:04I couldn't get to it between me and the fire. So I had the shovel, and I was like, all right, game on. Four on one. I guess this is it, you know? And then I start to rear back, and I was going to attack the most aggressive one. As soon as I reared back, this lady, black, from head to toe, just comes walking out of the... I'm in the middle of nowhere. She walks out. The dogs... She doesn't say a word. She just watches me the whole time, and they just quietly get in behind her, and they just walk off. and those things burnt for for it took forever to burn wow i had a cursed barbie doll once yeah lady uh lady came in their daughter was really afflicted teenage girl and um and she had an unhealthy relationship with a with an uncle or something and he had given her this barbie doll that she was really attached to and you have to watch this is the thing it's the attachment that's where the demon is he's always in the attachment you talk about fasting and breaking the attachment to meat once in a while, the attachment, a rock falls in your shoe, breaking the attachment to comfortable feet, you know, walking with that for a half hour or so, offering it up for your family, whatever.

1:49:12So breaking that attachment to this object. So that's how you know where the demon is. So the daughter is really attached to it. And she had chronic problems with her right leg. She couldn't figure it out. And the parents were like, we know it's something wicked, but we can't figure it out. We said, okay, give us the Barbie doll. I said, okay. So she gives us the Barbie doll. Okay. Why did they say give us the Barbie doll? Did they observe her and see what she was most attached to? They knew that the uncle had given her a Barbie doll that was a little creepy and the uncle was a little creepy. And so we just said, okay, then get rid of it.

1:49:48We just said, tell me about the Barbie doll. Oh, you can't have it. Okay, then get rid of it. I mean, it's that blunt. There's no nice. It's like, oh, really? You're attached to it? Give it to me. We're going to get rid of it for you. I want to see it. So she brings it, they bring it, and it's covered with paintings and symbols. Barbie doll. Dressed like, you know, kind of like occult clothing and missing a right leg. And just young girls. So we take it, take it to a remote place, and we dig a hole. And I'm looking around because I just don't need to be seen. I'm just trying to get rid of this thing and do the right thing for these people.

1:50:33Again, now that we've matured in our... You guys learn stuff over time in combat too. And you learn how to kick doors in better than you did before. So it's the same thing. We've learned now we would say, no, Dad, you're in charge, Dad. You're the head of household. You burn it. You let this garbage in, you get rid of it. So anyway, we're burning it. And I look around, and there's nobody from mine. I can't. I'm in the middle of nowhere. And all of a sudden, I start to light it, and I get the smell of just skunk and flesh. It's gross. And I look, and from me to there is a carcass of a rotting skunk, just like...

1:51:14And I didn't see it. I didn't smell, didn't see it. And this was a skunk rotting. It was, wow. So we light it up, just light up this Barbie doll this big. And it burnt, I'm not kidding you, like three tractor tires, green and black. Wow. So you talk about it carries, just like this carries the blessings of Christ in the church. Cursed objects work in the same way. So if you want, we can get rid of that. Should we get rid of it here or do I need to take it to somebody else's property? Yeah. Who's your biggest enemy? Give him a gift. I got a lot of them. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so yeah, we get rid of here, take it to the river, and break it, dispose of it.

1:51:52I'll give you the formula to pray. And I think that's part of it. We go through part of our protocol is to identify, we've let these things into our house, and we don't even know why. They're cute. But some of the, you know, I've had cases where they're,

1:52:07they're like Indian descent, you know, from India. And somebody gives them this native, you know, indigenous garment that they wear and ever since they've gotten that garment it's it's just been nothing but problems in their house so it was it was cursed who knows if you ever heard of a masonic bible a friend of mine got one of those passed down to him from his family yeah we'll put it i'll quote another i'll quote another rapper no it's not a rapper it's more of a soul's guy burn burn baby burn yeah you got what is a masonic bible well that was that was um that was was it jefferson that that i don't know anything about the yeah that yeah i know that the that the catholic church here is surrounded by the masonic temple i went to master this morning you did yeah yeah i couldn't believe it yeah yeah so yeah so so this this was a bible that they kind of they kind of put together um but yeah and you have that yeah the aprons the rings swords and other things all that regalia needs to be needs to be disposed of there's been i forget how many so what is the masonic bible it is um what's the difference um it is is i don't know there's a whole lot of huge differences okay yeah yeah i just know when we get them we burn them because it's not a christian bible i mean it might have some books of the bible in there and all that but but um but yeah it's it's what they have it's what they give you when you reach a certain level okay yeah okay what is the gofield by the way was a freemason the scofield's bible really yeah you wouldn't believe the the amount of freemasonry especially in this part of the world but it seems to be pretty strong it's pretty strong here yeah completely antithetical their motto is against cross and crown.

1:53:59It's just, there's been, I forget how many popes, multiple popes and encyclicals written by popes denouncing, you know, you cannot be Catholic and a Freemason. Why? Again, against cross and crown. Part of one of the ceremonies is to trample on a tiara representing the papal crown. It's Luciferian. So it's, you know, Luciferian is a philosophy, if you will. It's secular humanist in its philosophy. It's syncretistic. They trace themselves back to, you know, Solomon and the building of the temple and the Freemasons that were here and these other legends, but they also bring in other elements of different religions into it as well.

1:54:45Well, I mean, what is the point of the Masons? I mean, we see all the symbols, the pyramids, the one eye, the, you know, I mean, I don't really know much about it, but, you know, As a matter of fact, I mean, the last time I was in Washington, D.C., I just was looking at Google Earth, trying to find a place to eat, and I noticed all the roads line up into, like, pyramids, triangles, or diamonds, and it's... It's creepy. Somebody just sent me right where the shooter was. He said, one of my scout buddies, he said, you see where the... that this poor two National Guard people were shot, and one's dead or two?

1:55:25The female was killed. Yeah, I'm not sure. And he said, do you see it? And I was like, no. And then he drew on there, and the streets he drew, he could see at least a satanic star right there, too. So others have made those observations, yeah. But do you think about, what, 13 of our founders, of the signers of the Constitution, were Freemasons. So... Is that a good thing? No. I mean... That's not a good thing. Yeah. So what is the point? What are the Freemasons? They are... It's a fraternal organization. It's for men. They have female auxiliaries and stuff. Job's Daughters and the Eastern Star and others.

1:56:08But it's basically was started post-Reformation, Scotland, London, UK, some in Germany, around that same time, 1700 time period, that would create a fraternal organization, a secret brotherhood. And they have their own rituals and processes they work through. They have, you know, the Freemasons, if you think of it, were behind, if you've ever seen the movie about the Cristero War in Mexico, they were behind that. If you weren't a Freemason, you didn't do a job in the government at that time in Mexico, persecuting the church. Freemason, you'll see some, you know, Jay-Z and famous rappers are in Prince Hall Freemasonry, so they're behind You know, they're actually, so you have your African-American Freemasonry that is, some say, related to the Black Panthers or some radical.

1:57:10And then you've got those that are behind some of the white supremacy and other things as well, or at least co-associated with. So it's an organization, but they have a brotherhood based upon going through these common rituals. But again, think of that against cross and crown. It's against the church and it's against right order. And so they're going to say that's not true. And there's different layers. There's different layers. Lower levels, it's brotherhood. But as you go higher up, it gets a little more. Again, I wasn't a Freemason. How do you get higher up? You progress through. You progress through.

1:57:56And if they see that you fit certain molds, then, yeah, they'll let you go. And then they reveal the great architect of the universe, which from inside reports, and they're going to deny this, but the inside reports, people that have come through this say, yeah, no, the great architect of the universe is Lucifer. Wow. Yeah. So it is a— It's Luciferian, yeah. Yeah, and I can only tell you from the other side. I can tell you as a Catholic, it's been denounced. You can't be Catholic. Freemason was in canon law. It's been denounced by several popes. There's multiple. And it's antithetical. And even the Freemasons themselves say, yeah, Catholics technically can't either.

1:58:36Even though you'll hear some, once in a while you hear a bishop or a priest say, no, they're nice guys. They might be nice guys, but you can't be a member of that. But on the other side, we've seen many cases. And there are certain patterns in those cases. The G maybe, probably stands for the generative principle. I'm not sure, but you'll see it affecting having children. You'll see women struggling to conceive, oftentimes. What G? What do you mean? Then the symbol, the compass in the square, and there's a G in the middle. But there is an effect oftentimes of these curses on second and third generations down.

1:59:17where you're asthma stomach disorders very common um sometimes you'll see we had two cases at the same like six months of each other you know a year three children of boy and a girl boy and two girls the boy was autistic the daughter was completely without religion just rejected their faith and the next daughter the youngest was transitioning to male father was master mason in a certain a certain type a year later we get another case this couple's inflicted they have three children son's autistic daughter is on is completely rejected christianity making her way back but she had completely abandoned her faith and then the youngest daughter was on transitioning to male they both came from the exact same now coincidence okay maybe but the curses affecting the males more father ripeter will tell you that in his experience um and that that in cases where there is the holding or entry point of the demon of some kind of sexual abuse either rape or or molestation 50 of the time um there's freemasonry involved in the family Wow.

2:00:38So, and again, that's how these things kind of enter into families. Damn. But they can break, you know? You can break that by resisting and living out your faith, you know? But yeah, so those things are real. They work through. What is the unholy trinity? Yeah, so when, again, none of us were there. We have to lean on some of the doctors of the church. And the right, you know, an experience of exorcists, an experience of those who have gone before us. But we see a fracturing, if you will, of Satan at his fall. When he refused to serve the incarnate God, I refuse to serve a God that will take a form lower than me.

2:01:23That's why he hates the human flesh. He hates us. Because we image our creator, right? And his image and likeness, he created us. And so if he can mar that God's image, you know. And so some speculation that when we see this play out in the field, we see a fracturing. We see a fracturing from one God, three persons, one person fractured into three movements or three, I hate to say energies, but three positions. So you see Satan, Lucifer, and Beelzebub as names for the devil of the fallen angel Lucifer who fell. Loosely corresponding to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Okay. So we see where the Holy Spirit brings life, brings unity, brings virtue, brings peace.

2:02:21All the fruits of the Holy Spirit, we see the opposite. And that's the one that's most prominent, most prevalent today. You want to talk about sex and human sacrifice? No, not really. I want to... It's a terrible... I hear all about this, and I want to know, you know, what are people getting out of this stuff? Yeah, so... Why is it happening? Yeah. The coin of the realm, if you will, is blood and sexual purity. And so God became man. It says in the book of Hebrews, without the shed of blood, there is no atonement for sins. And so it's through the blood of Jesus Christ, right? who fulfilled the shadow that came to the reality of the Passover.

2:03:19Christ is the new Passover lamb. In John's Gospel, the noon hour when the Passover lamb was sacrificed, Jesus is taken away. They give him wine dipped on a sponge and a sprig of hyssop. He's wearing the priestly ketone, his garment that the soldiers cast lots for. He is lamb and high priest. He's the fulfillment of all these Old Testament, the shedding of the blood of the Passover lamb. And so he is the new Passover. But he's also virginal and pure. And so it's virginal purity. and his mother, who from Genesis 3.15 was proselytized to be with the Redeemer, is at the cross there with him, present with him.

2:04:12And so, we see the perfection of humanity and Christ shedding his blood. And so, in that two elements, we see what the demon works to the opposite. So it's blood and the deflowering, the sexual impurity. And if God made us in his image and likeness, and somehow male and female, he said, male and female, he created them in our image. So somehow the triune God, God is one but three persons, we reflect the inner life of God, man and woman. And so, the demon is constantly militating against that, against the unity of man and woman. He's going to constantly try to distort the primary aim of marriage, which is to reflect God, and to bring life just as God, just as the love of the Father and the Son, the one, the two produce three, then this emanation of love, this Holy Spirit.

2:05:17so now one becomes two and two becomes three and three becomes four, you know, and this life-giving expression of human love. And so the militate against that brings particular delight to the demon. So they're not really getting anything out of it. They're just torturing people to appease demons. It is thought that the demon that draws you to hell, you now serve under him in hell for eternity. So they get that, if that's true. And they get the satisfaction of drawing someone away into their camp, the satisfaction of pulling a child of God away from their destiny to be with God forever. They get that satisfaction to create misery loves company, so to speak.

2:06:10Mm-hmm. What I was kind of getting at was, you know, we hear this a lot, powerful people, politicians, Hollywood folks, sports figures, singers, like whatever, like people that we would consider to be very fortunate and have a lot, whether that's money or whatever it is. you know we hear a lot about what goes on you know stuff like bohemian grove yeah you know in the secret societies all that kind of stuff and then there's this trade for supposedly there's this trade for power right but maybe we get there after we talk about the old gods yeah because they're the same they are the same yeah they're just coming back they're repurposing they're resurfacing.

2:07:08Let's take a quick break and come back. I'm not going to wait anymore. I just want to dive right out of the old gods. So, okay, perfect.

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2:10:11again, the demon militates to absurdity, and so the focus needs to be on Christ. The second focus is what are the obstacles, and the third is what the demon is doing. but sometimes when he militates to a really absurd thing, like a Chucky doll, you'll wake up and go, hey, I got to change my life. So this guy was a high-ranking guy.

2:10:33He starts having kids, and he starts having that movement of conversion to come into the church. And his wife goes in to clean up the toys. And one night, the kids are in bed, and picks up a teddy bear, and the teddy bear, head turns, comes alive and says, they're mine, leave us alone.

2:10:58These are mine, leave us alone. And these are articulate, educated people. They're not kooky. They're just regular guys. She throws the thing down and runs off. And that sparked their conversion. And then going through their conversion, going back into the church. And this is oftentimes when you feel the effects of curses is when you start seeing these moments. This guy that's experiencing the Chucky doll is a high-level Freemason. He was at the time. Or he had left it. He was leaving it. Okay. And so all this stuff starts lighting up in his life, you know, and so including this. And other, again, problems with the children and typical things that are happening, you know, children having problems and confusions and other things.

2:11:47And so there are, we're running through, this is the, I'd show you, Deliverance Prayers for the Laity book. I gave you one last time I was here. Yeah, you just pulled that out. Yeah. Just a minute ago. In the back is, there's renunciation prayers that you can do. And I'll put on the show notes on the webpage that you can see how it works, who should pray the breaking of the curses. And, you know, so we talk about generational curses. and there's this is more of an active type active type of curse it would be freemation there's other types as well we'll get into but um in this case we're doing the renunciations and um in preparation for potential prayer and the um the guy so we're doing our our protocol you do once a week and in a sacred place once a week for three weeks now if they're in our system then our team is assisting in that if they're not you can do it on your own you know but if they're in the system for other activity that you kind of clean up.

2:12:45So we're going through and every week when we got to that section where he would, where he was, what he did in his previous life, the wife starts choking, coughing. And then the next week, and there's Freemasonry in both family lines as well. And then the next week we do it, same thing. We get to this certain section that I know he was a member of an elite, fairly high-ranking guy. Not all the way up, he didn't see the total dark stuff, but high enough that he was moving his way, he starts coughing again, kind of a coughing fit. Again, I'm a calf scout. You watch my movements, you're looking for patterns, you know, just like you.

2:13:27Okay, interesting. Week three. So you do it three weeks in a row, go to confession every week and work through that. And then after the third time, the curse is broken. And so the third week, we're going through. I've got a couple team members there, and one of the parents were there. And then we get to that same section where the last couple weeks, she just kind of cough and choke up. She starts getting choked out like an invisible hand just went. No kidding. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so the guys are looking at me like, what are you doing? What are you going to do, you know? And I know I'm going to get destroyed by the pastor for doing this.

2:14:17He's going to be like, what the heck are you doing? I'm going to run over and get the priest to save my bacon. So I had known them. They had been going to confession. They're working their way through the state of grace. So I said, all right. and they're looking at me and and so you know i was i'm i was a pilot you know what i mean so we're just on the outside cool you know what i mean sunglasses we got the scarf air metals dangling you know upside down and inverted super cool but on the inside i'm like oh man i'm really screwed here you know um and meanwhile she's choking i mean like face turning red like eyes but gone out like what do you what's going on so i say to the husband hey do me favor raise your hand and you want you to say in the name of jesus christ i bind any demon afflicting my wife and i command you go to the foot of the cross i was like yeah this will take care of it nothing what the heck this happened fast she's starting to choke out.

2:15:26And I was like, all right. And then all I can say is my garden angel didn't talk to me very much, but I had a quick inspiration, right? And I'm writing this chapter on natural law. I'm trying to understand in the demonic psychology, how they're, you know, I understand St. Thomas and I understand the biblical understanding of this, of authority and natural law. and so but i'm i'm trying working through it as a scholar but i've never seen it in real time it's like you breaking down your 1911 a hundred times but you got to actually go to the range from i'm understanding ballistics but i'm not understanding how to use this weapon and so and again a demon is bound by that natural law that he's created under and meanwhile she's choking out so i just said okay i want you to say in the name of jesus christ and by the authority given to given to me through natural law by God, the Father Almighty is having authority over this flesh.

2:16:22I command you to leave my wife alone immediately and go to the foot of the cross. And he says that prayer, and the minute he says that prayer, it goes away. Wow. So invoking, I saw it happen. Wow. Invoking natural law, right? It was incredible. And it was, and so the late, they, after everything calmed down and she catches her breath and she gets her color back and, and the husband goes, why did that work and not just invoking i said look i said i don't know they said what do you know you're the expert i'm like i said you know if it ain't stupid if it works right and i said no here's what i think i think god wanted you to learn that your family is in a battle and you're the one you got to be the guy that breaks this you're the tip of the spear and you need to start asserting yourself as the head of household and be the man and man up and fight this fight and wife you need to let him leave let him fight this fight and you support him and you fight it too but as a mama bear right and i didn't tell him and god was showing me the understanding the intricacy of how the demon works and how natural law and how they work and they respond to that and you know Not every weapon works in every situation.

2:17:43You go loaded for all sorts of things. You don't throw a grenade in when you don't need to. You don't break out. But this was really helping me understand. So we see the effect of the Freemasonic curse. We see the generations involved. We see the attack on the children. We see the power of a father's prayer to break those curses. And so that's when I started to see how wicked this stuff is, but also at the same time focusing back on Christ. That family is now strong, working together, and going to Mass. I mean, they're through that phase of their life. Thanks be to God. Man, wow. You have seen some stuff.

2:18:27Yeah. Jeez. Let's move into the old gods. You ready? historical and biblical contexts of first false gods in the Old Testament. Baal, Asherah, Moloch, Ammon, and Raphon. Did I say those correct? Yeah, those are just... Raphon. Yeah, Raphon. You have basically under Satan, Lucifer, Beelzebub. Those are the principal titles that roughly I've mentioned before. roughly everything he does is a mimic of a mockery and aping of the the true the good the beautiful everything he does he can create nothing this is why we saw um uh we talked about last time this um this god um mentioned in exodus 111 well he's not mentioned but the cities are mentioned if egypt and the principal deity of the the pharaohs would embody and this this particular Pharaoh this particular time and at different times was this demon Atum.

2:19:38And he would, before we get into the big gods, okay, this particular Egyptian god is known as the great masturbator, the great he-she, because everything goes back to that original creation of Adam and Eve, right? And also everything goes back to the Proto-Evangelium, Genesis 315, a redeemer will come and so from the beginning the enemy is working against this and what he would do is he would he would and i'm sorry you know this is not for every audience but he would ingest his own semen and then spit children out of his mouth and this is how because the demon can't create so this this was in this particular um worship this is this is how he did it, this ancient God.

2:20:26Because again, they take... Anyway. They take what? Well, it's the power of regeneration. It's the unity of male and female that most approximates the life-giving love of the internal life of the Trinity, the mystery of what God was doing before he created, living in himself, sufficient, but out of love creating us. and the angels to serve us and to serve Him and to be custodians over creation. And so we see this type of mockery from the beginning. Now, some of the main deity that you'll see in the Old Testament, we see it play out in different cultures.

2:21:19In the second century, there was a church writer named Tertullian in Africa. He's writing like 150, 180 AD, and he talks about the five prefects, the five prefects or five generals in hell. That Satan, who has, you know, has five generals underneath him. And roughly speaking, now different exorcists and different writers have speculated who these five are, but more or less, you'll see a pattern. And the beginning is Baal, which means Lord or husband, right? And Hosea, we say, you know, no longer will you call your gods my Baal, but my husband, right? You will call me my husband. You know, God is the Lord.

2:22:14God is the Lord. God is the spouse. You know, Israel was in a spousal relationship with God. So Baal militates against that spousal relationship. So Baal is the principal demon of impurity. Impurity. So that's the first thing that comes. And the actions of Baal is to separate the procreative act to its intended natural law end, which is children. So he's separating sex from procreation. but she's a demon of impurity. And they come in different names. They get repurposed, recycled in different names in different cultures and different time periods. After Baal, Asmodeus. Asmodeus is the principal demon of homosexuality, male homosexuality.

2:23:02So once you separate procreation from the marital act, sex becomes only ordered towards individual pleasure. Then sex between men, you know, as St. Paul says in Romans, they began lusting men for men and women for women. After Asmodeus is Leviathan, principal deity of female homosexuality, of the masculine kind. And then Lilith, which we see playing out in scripture, Ashtarah, Ishtar, Inanna. These are different names. For her, this is the seductive, but female lesbian and bisexual and female lesbianism. And then finally, the fifth general, if you will, is in the modern period, we call him Baphomet, which is a repurposing in many ways and shares many characteristics of Moloch, which is a god of child sacrifice.

2:24:09Now, the three main ones, Baal, Ishtar, or Ashtoreh, and Moloch are the three main ones that the Israelites kept falling into. One was used fertility for divine favors, for war, fertility, and to appease in times of great need. So those are the, roughly speaking. Again, it gets complex. So is this, these gods are, is this almost like a hierarchy of specific sins? Does that make, like, if you were to put every genre of sin into some type of a, for lack of a better word, a kingdom, a chain of command, organization of demons, you have, this sounds like you have one head demon or false god. and then five general for that specific sin that would distribute their kingdom into the end of five now other writers ecclesial writers but had seven i mean so there's a there's a child sacrifice that is that's a sin right so at the top of that sin is is moloch right yeah so how did how did how did baal moloch ishtar all these all these false gods i mean how did they how did they get the word out to the people that they want people to sacrifice children they want them to to engage in homosexuality and that all that how do they i mean how does it come about well i think they they i mean man is as saint augustine said he's created towards god our hearts arrest us they find only rest in god and him and so man is created uh as philosophically as a homo religiosus Man is a religious being, and man is religious by nature.

2:26:01We're made from God. We come from Him. We're image and likeness, and something about us drives us back to union with Him. Like, remember the iron? You've probably shown your kids the show, the iron giant, right? In the end, he blows up, and then he's starting to re-bring himself back together to God, and we're kind of like that. We're blown up as humans, but little by little, we bring ourselves back together, and we're driven back to God. And so they present some aspect of God or some aspect of connection with the divine or with the other, the preternatural. And the pagan Gentiles at this time, talking about the Old Testament, they didn't have the true God.

2:26:41That was Israel's job to go into the nations and through their holiness convert the nations. And it wasn't until Israel failed, right? and those who failed did not, that the church now became the new Israel. That to the church is going to be proclaimed to the nations. That is the movement from Judaism to proclaim to the Gentiles. And this is what was most striking here as we go into the Christmas season. You listen to the readings at Mass, and it's talking about going to the Gentiles and the nations, the pagan nations. And these are the people that the Jews couldn't believe it. They called them dogs, right?

2:27:26They're filthy dogs. You've been in the Middle East. You know what those dogs are like. They're not nice creatures. They're wicked. They're half jackal. They're scavengers. And this is the way the Jewish people saw the Gentiles. And so God is going to offer a new covenant to these dogs, right? Jesus himself, the woman, she was a Greek woman, a Syrophoenician woman, goes to jesus my daughter's possessed i can't give to the little dogs what belongs to the children right to test your faith now that little dog is a loaded phrase because when when when moses tells the people when they go into the promised land don't do in the land of canaan right as you You know, don't do their types of worship.

2:28:14You don't offer a harlot's price or a dog's fee, right? So talking about temple prostitution. And what is a dog, right? There's even, you know, it's male temple prostitutes, right? Don't have sex like they do, right? Don't have sex with your mom. Don't have sex. None of this ancestral stuff. How does a dog copulate? A dog copulates indiscriminately. right and so that's what the dogs did and so and so jesus is in this case testing her faith right even the she says even the dogs get a scrap you know from the table so these old gods keep resurfacing and again i mentioned it to him and then we'll go into the other gods but there was a performance artist and and i forget what he what he even calls himself his name was P.

2:29:05Orridge, what was it? Genesis P. Orridge of all things. And he did that, the same thing. Some sources say that he ingested his own semen daily. He and his wife call themselves they, androgynous, the perfect, they're the perfect human. And they altered their bodies to be surgically, to mirror each other some strange way. I mean, you can't make it up. You can't make it up. They're the great he, she. This goes all the way back to Egypt. Wow. Yeah. But it begins with impurity and introduces homosexuality, and then after that, child sacrifice. So they would do different rituals, you know, Baal, Ashtar, and Moloch, and some forms.

2:29:54Sometimes it's Milcom, the Moabites, or Chemosh, you know. But it's those basic are the big three in the Old Testament that keep resurfacing in the life of Israel. Where are they today? They're still here. Are they still worshiping them? Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Because there's power. They can get power. Ritualistic sex is, you know, you know the word, or, you know. What is ritualistic sex? Well, it's either done as part of an initiation, right? I've known people of contacts say, I did go down to a cemetery and have sex on top of a pentagram. That's ritualistic sex with a prostitute or with another member of the church.

2:30:42That's ritualistic sex. Or it's orgies, like the Dionysian rites, other stuff you hear about. what I found kind of interesting is the word orgy or gay right is the Greek word for wrath it's this it's not this loving sweet you know Luther Vandross in the background quiet sacred moment this is violent sex we're talking about ritualistic I've never you know you're about like the PDT parties that didn't sound like a very loving environment no you know what I mean but that whether they did it ritualistically or not Sometimes it was ritualistic. With Baal, it would be more ritualistic. With the Ashtora, it's going to be more in the groves.

2:31:27It's going to be more in the woods. You know, the Dionysian rituals kind of fall into that. Bisexual, you know, these ancient rituals go way back. The Roman historian Livy describes this cult coming in. By cult, I mean a type of worship, okay? that this deity from the East, from the Greeks, named Dionysus, right? And so part of it was they were, again, demons are agents of chaos. So they were antinomian is the name. It's a fancy word. I spent a lot of money to learn fancy words, so I got to drop them once in a while, okay? So nomos is law or norms. Anti means against. So their rituals are deliberately prescribed to challenge norms, sexual norms, gender norms, societal norms, slaves and masters in this case.

2:32:34And so they would – it started off being women going in, and their leaders, the main ones that led it were called minats, where we get maniac, right? And there would be wine and some scholars think might have been, you know, laced with primitive narcotics to get into an altered state and then turned into these orgies, right? And so, again, against the norms. Greek women were always kept very close in the house. They didn't, you know, so they go out, their hair out, they party, they have sex, you know. men started wanting to join this is this is livy okay um the roman historian he's describing this period in roman history and they they um men started joining and they had to challenge norms if you want to be in a women's group you have to lose your manhood and so and and livy describes this scenario and i've i got a copy so i'll give them to you if you want to read what he says but And he says, yeah, and they would beat the drums loudly because those who resisted that were taken into caves and slaughtered, sacrificed.

2:33:52So wicked. So it comes into Rome this way and it gets kind of filtered into the god Bacchus and then Liber. But he warns the Senate about letting this into the Roman citizenry. So it gets morphed and changed a little bit for the taste of the Romans, but we see it moving through. But again, the Olympic ceremony was that. Beelzebub, that's one of the names of Satan. That's, I mean, the primordial. Oh, God. We see, did you see the image of a fly coming down? You know, a performance artist had a costume of a fly coming down on like on a string, you know, that kind of looked like Beelzebub to me, the lord of the flies, the lord of the dung heap.

2:34:42What's interesting, you go back to sexuality. Do you think these people know what this is? I don't know. I think some of them do. I think some of them are, as what Stalin would call, useful idiots, and I think some of them know precisely what they're doing. The Goddard Tunnel, that if you ever look that up, if you don't understand, if that doesn't strike you as wicked, that ceremony that was there, What was there? It was just the same stuff. It was the same kind of occultic, satanic imagery, and opening up of this tunnel, you know? Or, yeah, so we see these images, you know. Beelzebul's interesting is the demon of impurity and the demon of fear.

2:35:24And so he's in particular very, very powerful today, very common in many of our cases is this particular one and so the old testament you'll read you'll see beelzebub in the new chest it's beelzebul okay and so his real name is beelzebul and it's the lord of the house the lord of the temple so it's a mockery of the holy spirit the lord god alone his presence his kind of presence the glory cloud dwelling in the tabernacle he is the Lord of the house, not him. So in the Old Testament, you'll see it often translated Beelzebub, not the Lord of the house, the Lord of the flies, Lord of the dung heap, Lord of refuse.

2:36:13And so that's where you see this name. You'll see the difference in that name, but it's the demon of impurity and fear. Came in on the sky once. The priest asked me, I told him, this is how this case is track, and I write it out, and I explain it. This is the problem. This is who you're up against. Here's his vulnerabilities. He's going to be vulnerable on Mondays. He's going to be vulnerable to Our Lady of Guadalupe. His feast day is coming up. He's going to be vulnerable to... Because if he's the Lord of the flies, right? If he is mockery of the Holy Spirit, then he's going to have a vulnerability to the Virgin Mary, because who is the spouse of the Holy Spirit?

2:36:56It was to the Holy Spirit that she conceived the god man so i i give this reading to him and i i write it out and the priest starts going after it and right in the middle of the priest's the priest is hammering he starts correcting the priest that's not my name and then he looks at me and he corrects my hebrew because my hebrew was sloppy it was it was not correct i didn't put the suffix i didn't spell it out phonetically correctly, corrects my Hebrew, goes back to the priest, corrects him, goes back to me, looks at me, looks back at the priest. Nobody knew that email went out. But that's the guy.

2:37:36That's who we're... Damn. The Lord of the Flies. Why do you... I mean, why do you...

2:37:45So, I'm still relatively new at this, but I'm fascinated by the subject. I want to learn more about it you know but there's not a lot of when you don't want to learn there's there are not a lot of people that know about ball ishtar moloch yeah there's not i mean there's a um darren my editors we have talked to him about this for years um jeremy my producer he met him we talked to him about this stuff a little bit but but you know if you go out and start just asking you know i would say random people but but family member people that are close to me there's not a lot of people that know about this stuff but you know the what what's the people that do seem to know about it are powerful people very powerful people what do you i mean what's your take on this you've been in this for a long time yeah it sure seems that way why is that well i think i think it's power I think it's power.

2:38:51I think... So did they get the... You know, where I'm getting, did they get the power from worshipping that, or did they have the power, and that is what attracted the demons? No, I mean, look down in Mexico, I read an article not long ago that the police down there are... The federales are now going to Santa Muerte for protection, right? for protection against um they're abandoning their their catholic faith to go because they can get power and protection more quickly you know that's so so it's it's it's the expedite it's it's the it's thirst for power is what draws people there that's some sort and that power comes um through these rituals so how do they find this stuff out i think i mean i don't know anything about this you know and then it didn't take much on the internet to search trying to figure this stuff out i mean there's just not i mean full police forces i mean there is now new mexico but maybe not all of them but there are there are some that are doing it but again everything's a mockery what is what is santa muerte right it's often an image of our lady guadalupe and a skull and who is she the new eve right prophesied but we talked to the very first segment, Genesis 315.

2:40:10She is the one who will crush the head of the serpent. She is perfect virginal purity. She is the mother of the Redeemer. She is the daughter of the Father, the spouse of the Holy Spirit that even sees it this way. He sees it very clearly this way. And so he's going to militate directly against that through Santa Muerte. It's a mockery of the virgin mother. And so that's why she's very powerful in this day and age. This is why she's, it's a powerful image. Because in her person, in her perfect purity, she militates against. This is why she's there at nearly every extraction, because of her unique place in the mystical body.

2:40:53And the demon knows that, because she embodies something, a deeper spiritual reality that that we don't see. I did my doctoral thesis, right, on New Eve and the image of woman and John's Gospel and some early church fathers and Song of Songs. You remember the Song of Songs? It's a love poem, you know, and how this image of woman is reflected and gets developed over time and Mary as New Eve. so we're in a session with this particular case and i said okay father read have uh have your deacon read john chapter 2 the wedding feast of cana because he calls his mother woman all right on the third day which is began in john's gospel on the first day and the beginning of creation the beginning was the word and then three times as John says, the next day, the next day, the next day.

2:41:54So now we're on the seventh day. We're getting a new creation and the nuptial wedding feast where Jesus is approached for wine instead of the bridegroom. And there is no mention of a bride except for his mother. We have God seeing the perfection of humanity and her wedding himself as in a new covenant and a wedding in this nuptial embrace with humanity. And he calls her woman as a new Eve, right? so I said just read that and then that was like two weeks prior and then during the session father's doing the minor exorcism the demon goes ballistic runs over to the deacon starts screaming at him I command you to stop reading that stop reading that so I walk over I'm like dude I pretty shuts it down makes him stop dude what are you reading because I'm just reading John chapter 2 like he told me I was like oh sorry I forgot and then read Revelation chapter 11 19 and then chapter 12, we see John sees a manifestation.

2:42:56He sees a theophany of God. He sees the Ark of the Covenant, and then he sees the woman clouded with the sun with the moon on her feet, like the image of our Lady of Guadalupe. She appeared. She appeared to the native indigenous people there in the 1500s, right? And she says, when Juan Diego says, who should I tell the bishop you are? He says, in the native tongue, he hears, the Spaniard hears the name Guadalupe, because there was already a shrine Guadalupe. She says, Cuadalosupe, or something along. I'm the one who crushes the stone serpent. I'm the one who crushes the stone serpent, right? Genesis 3, 15.

2:43:39Then I meet a guy a couple weeks ago, struggling terribly with transgender. Right? Then that stone serpent was the demon god Cuadal. I meet this guy, he's struggling with gender dysphoria, he's a mess. And he heard me tell one of these stories, and he said, I'm a little nervous. I said, why? He said, I just changed my, I changed my, I turned 18 and I changed my name to Quaxoquado. Of all the things that change your name, you know, the demons are territorial. I said, you need to develop devotion to the lady, Our Lady of Guadalupe. You need that image in your house to fight this thing off. It just keeps coming back.

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2:45:36Wow. Shit runs real deep. Well, it runs, you know, it's like that, remember the Billy Joel song, We Didn't Start the Fire? you know i knew people that memorized all those i didn't i couldn't are you one of them no i like the song though i guess i don't want to say it because they'll get stuck in our head and won't be able to get rid of it all day yeah we didn't start this fire this started from the beginning it's the same old shoot them up catechism the catholic church 409 says all of human history is one of dour combat with the forces of evil and so we see these same evils resurfacing but But those end the same patterns.

2:46:08It's impurity, the separation of male and female in the procreative act, homosexuality, male, female, and then child sacrifice.

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2:49:34This is how all these nations ended, correct? It's the Roman Empire. It's all... You can kind of see it that way, yeah. Yeah, right? I mean, it's talked about a lot. Yeah. And I think about this too, but God didn't like nations, correct? No, he appointed angels to guard the nations. No, I think order, God is a God of order. It's a disorder. I mean, but isn't the new Israel supposed to be everybody? no it's not just new israel is a church according to catholic church teaching supersessionalism is the name that's another i can get my money out of that word but it's when the church now is the new israel right the jerusalem above she is our mother the new baptist i mean the the you know saint paul says you were circumcised and circumcised your flesh you were that baptism is now the new circumcision it's baptism that brings us in the covenant communion with god No longer circumcision.

2:50:35It's baptism. So is circumcision bad? No. You just don't have to. It's just not, it's not, it's, it's, it pointed to something else. It pointed us to baptism. Circumcision is not bad or good. It's, if you want to make that choice, you know. Where did the circumcision come from? It came back from the. It's the whole point. What's that? What is the point? Yeah, no, it's just something God prescribed. That's a good question. but God prescribed circumcision as part of entry into covenant communion.

2:51:12So, and now when you, now that, but again, what happened, St. Paul says, these were the shadows, the reality points to Christ. In Colossians 2.17, these are the shadows, the Greek literary says, the reality or that points to the body of Christ, the somo to Christus. So everything points us, all these old shadows point to the body of Christ, body of Christ on the cross, the body of Christ in the manger, the body of Christ at church, the body of Christ in the Eucharist. And so all these shadows point you to the right of Christ. And this is why they would mock. Most of the satanic rituals are a mockery of the Eucharist.

2:51:48And there's ancient rituals that go back, the Borberites, Fibonites, you can look these things up epiphanius of salamis clem uh saint clement of alexandria talk about these these infiltrators into the church that were doing eucharistic what they call agape meals eucharistic celebrations but instead of a well-ordered nice latin mass they were they were having an orgy and they were doing just the things that we talked about smearing of blood ingesting semen offering semen to God saying, this is my body and mockery of the Eucharist, because it's a mockery of the Eucharist. All these shadows point to the reality of Christ, Jesus Christ in his body.

2:52:29But the occult rituals work in the opposite. You know, we've covered most of this. I wanted to get into witchcraft curses and rituals, but I see, you know, Abramovich in there, that artist. What is she? There's a lot of talk about her paintings, who she's around. Yeah, if you look, again, look at the Borberites, it's similar stuff. It's, you know, Freemasonry is, there's three types of curses, as I mentioned. There's natural curses, there's generational curses, and then there's these preternatural curses. Within that, you have things like Freemasonry, Theurgy, Alchemy, and these are more Luciferian.

2:53:15just trying to invoke God to, I mean, false gods, conscript demons, etc. There's another type we call Rosicrucianism, roughly, or pelican witchcraft. I mean, the first was Rosicrucian-type incantations, and there's what we call pelican witchcraft. Pelican witchcraft, or those types of witchcraft, are used more bodily. Again, a mockery of the Holy Eucharist. And so, you'll see bodily things. It's more bodily, blood, et cetera. And so those types of things are highly liturgical, highly symbolic. Remember, if you go back to the Old Testament, and if you look at the priesthood, what the priest did, there are three separations that set apart the priest, time, space, and status.

2:54:06Time separated, set apart, right? Like Moses says, or God says to Moses, set apart Aaron's sons in Exodus. Anoint their hands that they may serve as priests for me. And that word to be holy, to anoint, to set apart, the word to be holy means to be set apart. That calls for all of us to be set apart in this world, to live in holiness. But what was set apart? Time status and space. So we had sacred space. You have a tabernacle. We have sacred time, liturgical calendar, and then you have person, status, priesthood. And what the ritual in the Old Testament understanding, and we carry this into New Testament, you know, the New Testament and then the Catholic liturgy, we see ritual brings order where there's chaos.

2:54:57It brings clean where there is unclean, right? It brings life where there is death. It's separating. and ritual helps to separate these things. That's what ritual does. It's man's engagement with the cosmos. Okay? This makes a point. It makes it relevant. So man engages with the cosmos through liturgy, through this separating apart. So liturgy is important. Catholic mass is important. The demon knows. We have demons that will manifest on certain feast days every time. And they're vulnerable on certain feast days because God always sends help from the mystical body and the demon tracks the liturgical calendar.

2:55:36The time, space, status, order out of chaos, life out of death, clean from unclean, pure from unpure. So holiness where there is unholiness. These separations are through liturgy. But the demon works in the opposite, constantly bringing death. So you talk about the modern-day Moloch, right? Baphomet. And what's his tattoo on his arm? It comes from a couple of centuries ago, alchemy. solve et coagula, to dissolve, break down, and reconstruct, put back together. So that's what the enemy works. So their rituals do the same thing, just in the diabolic inverse of what our liturgy does. They try to bring chaos where there is order.

2:56:26They try to bring impurity where there is purity, darkness where there is light, unclean where there is clean. So ritual is what stands in between. And the occultists know this. They know this. And so that dissolves. But think about that principle to break down and to reconstruct. And that's what our culture is kind of undergoing, to break it down, to reconstruct it. The New World Order, that's kind of the way it works, deconstruct it. Right? To break down norms to reconstruct it to something new. I mean, definitely makes sense. I mean, we're seeing it happen. We're watching it happen. They're agents of chaos.

2:57:10The demon, in his nature, is an agent of chaos. It's in chaos that he is cast down to the earth, and it's in chaos that he continues to work. So they're constantly going to move towards chaos, to solve it coagula, to break it down, to break chaos, to coagulate something else in a different way. that's not going to be Christian. You know, a lot of people think this stuff is orchestrated by a group of people or a particular country or maybe a religious group or something like that. I mean, what are your thoughts? Yeah. I think that this is all orchestrated. I mean, I guess what I'm saying is I think a lot of people think that this is potentially orchestrated by humans and all the humans that are that are partaking in in dissolving and destructing and rebuilding whatever we want to call it they think that they all know each other and it's this elaborate network of human beings do you think that or do Do you think that all these human beings are being manipulated by one demon, a group of demons, and they're the ones that are orchestrating this, and the human doesn't actually know, even maybe realize that it's being orchestrated?

2:58:40I think it's probably both and. I think there is certain people working towards real destruction. They know exactly what they're doing. They know exactly what they're doing. And there's others that are just willing participants. I mean, not everybody that went to these ancient rituals were there because they had great devotion to this deity. They went there for the power, for the connection, for the sex or whatever, for the experience. So who knows? I guess what I'm saying is that... Yes, I do. I have no idea. But I think it's obvious that there are humans that know exactly what they're doing.

2:59:19I guess what I'm saying is, is there any one human who's orchestrating this, who has the big picture? Does that make sense? that has the big picture that's moving the pieces on the chessboard. You do this, you do that, you do this. No, I don't think there's that guy. I mean, I know that they know, like, hey, we're worshiping Lucifer. We are the best. I think there's those that do that willfully, and they're happily doing it. They've been doing it for probably generations. But they don't understand the magnitude and how it's all orchestrated and coming together. I don't personally think there's one person.

2:59:54There's not a guy in a talk somewhere. Yeah. No, I don't think there's a guy in the talk anywhere. That's going, the guy in the talk is Lucifer himself, correct? Yeah, he's the guy in the talk. And his five generals are the ones that are directing things. He's not disseminating the information to the humans. No, but I think they're... Hey, we're winning. Hey, we're not winning. I think there's a lot of willful participants in it. I think we have to get beyond the paradigm that we think in terms of Democrat and Republican, we've got to start thinking of the difference between good and evil, the battles between good and evil.

3:00:22Yeah. And the demon's going to constantly try to keep the chaos. create confusion. Do you see any symbolism in a lot of this stuff, these Hollywood parties where they're eating food off naked bodies? Oh, yeah. And what is the symbolism there? What does that represent? Well, again, it's a mockery of the Eucharist, of the Mass. This is my body. Or you see these paintings. Is it Charles that has the painting of Abramovich? And there's like some kind of... I can't remember if it's a pentagram or a demon or Lucifer himself that's in the painting, and you, like, do you know what I'm saying? But it's hidden.

3:01:01It's hidden in the painting. It's hidden in the painting, yeah. Is that real, or is that... Yeah. Is that... I mean, how much of it is just psyops? How much of it is real? It's probably, you know, psyops isn't... Is there any coincidence? Any of it a coincidence? I don't think there's any coincidence, is it? I mean, I don't either. I'm not a big proponent that, yeah, I think coincidence is we're starting to see things in real time and space. So I think, but I think the battle is on, and Christ is calling his church to get back to... Do you think that the purchaser of the painting understands what's inside of it?

3:01:33Oh, yeah. I think so. You do? Yeah, I do. Or there's a... Do you think the artist just did it? I mean, okay, like Disney, for example. Perfect example. I don't know what they're doing now because I don't really pay attention and my kids don't watch Disney. But, you know, I remember when I was growing up, at some point in time, some kid in my school had figured out that oh if you look at if you watch aladdin when they rub the genie bottle and the genie pops out it spells sex if you look at the little merm the cover of the little mermaid um you know back in the in the 90s the cover of the movie you know it's a it's it's like a golden castle yeah under sea but if you look closely all of the towers are penises you've seen this no you've seen i remember There's a ton of this shit.

3:02:26I mean, I can't remember all of it, but I verified all of it when I was in middle school or however old I was. I was like, holy shit, this is all, this is real. You know, it's not a, and so, I mean, you see this symbolism everywhere. You know, I'll tell you another thing that I don't, I don't know what to think of. maybe a long time ago here me and my wife and uh and another couple were looking around at some big big acreages like way way out in the middle of nowhere you know five six hundred acres we go to this compound and it was you know all these houses small like cabins it was like a big hunt property you know and and um so we go down there and we're looking all these people like not all these people like two cars flee and we get there there's all these like these hippies and they're like well oh what do you guys do do you own this place but we went through with the realtor you know and like oh no we just work here we can we're fermenting food and all this other we go in the cabin there's like no canned nothing yeah all right what's this is weird so we go down we look at another cabin and walk in there's a golf simulator there's an upstairs we go upstairs there's this little room i look on the wall and there's a pentagram and right under the pentagram there's there's a there's a mattress and on every point on the pentagram there was these like magazine cutouts of

3:04:10And scenes of nature, like there was a mountain view scene, like a beach scene. At every point on the pentagram was a different landscape photo in a different ecosystem, different environment. And then there were chairs all around the bed. Yeah. I mean, what is that? Have you seen that before? Well, no, I haven't seen it. We see it and I'm like, okay. I was with another seal and his wife's, so I was like, all right, well. Yeah, but I've seen other similar things and properties. And yeah, this is where rituals are taking place and they're trying to open a portal there. I mean, this is like way, way out in the boonies.

3:04:55Yeah. Like two and a half hours from anywhere. How do you keep landing? How do you keep ending up on these scenarios? I'm an explorer. Yeah, yeah. I like to. Most people never see this in their lives, and you're catching this stuff. Yeah, this would have been formalistic, formal rituals to open portal. What do you mean open a portal? There are certain things you can do to open, open up. Open what? Open up. What comes in or out of the portal? Demons. I mean, that's rituals performed that open up, and this space now becomes the opposite of sacred space. it becomes the opposite of a church where the tabernacle is present that has the presence of angels that has the presence of god there it's it's just it's just an opposite of that are they aware of when the portal opens oh yeah yeah what happens well i mean i don't know i've never been involved but i but i imagine they would be aware of that when they that something would happen.

3:05:58But people would be happy. At some stage, there's buyer beware laws that you have to disclose that. Others are buyers beware, but I think some of them you have to disclose if there's anything like that, any evil that ever took place there. Like for real estate, I mean, so yeah. So this would have been a group that would do some sort of rituals to invoke as much evil into the areas they can. Sheesh. Yeah. Which is why we need to pray, you know. Offer our prayers to God. Get back to the true faith. Get back to the ancient weapons, you know. Jeez. Colts ideologies and distinctions. You know, what is the synagogue of Satan?

3:06:42Yeah, so there's a lot of talk on that today. It's a very popular topic. You know, for me, from Scripture, that phrase is used twice. In the book of Revelation, you have two churches there of Smyrna and Philadelphia, I think. In that time period, there would have been intense persecution. People think, we often think in history that Romans persecuted the church. At the beginning, it was largely the Jewish leaders that rejected Christ as Messiah that persecuted the church. And so, this is probably words that St. John wrote about the time of that was happening. Remember, Revelation says these are the things that has happened, is happening, and will happen in the future.

3:07:34Revelation is polyvalent in its meaning. But so, John is writing about what's happening. There are those who claim to be Jews, but they're not, it says. That's the synagogue of Satan. And so for John, he's the same guy that wrote in the end of his gospel, the world can't contain the books that were written, but these things were written so that you might believe that Jesus is the Son of God and through him have life in his name. And so those who rejected Jesus as Messiah, that would be the early church. And fathers would say those people of Israel that rejected Christ as Messiah, they claim to be Jews because the real Jews are Christians, the church.

3:08:16Those are the true Jews. Jesus didn't come to abolish it to fulfill. And so Jesus didn't come to what? Abolish the law, but to fulfill the law. He fulfills it now. You know, St. Paul writes in the Romans that circumcision is something interior. Being a Jew is something—it isn't the external things. It's the spiritual faith that makes us and brings us into the new covenant, the new covenant with God's people, which includes all the Gentiles, all the pagans that are now brought in. That was, again, shocking in the early church. And so that would be the early church's reading of that. But elsewhere, two other mentions in Revelation.

3:09:00One is right before the first mention in Revelation 2, St. John says, you've lost the love you had at first. Return to that first love, right? We often hear Christians talk about that. It happens. But he says, but you have this in your favor. You hate the Nicolaitans because I also hate them, right? Well, the Nicolaitans were—several church fathers mentioned the Nicolaitans as descendants of Nicholas, one of the first deacons, seven deacons ordained Nicholas, who was a convert from Judaism, to Judaism. So, and there's several church fathers write about that he apostatized over trying to live celibacy and various things.

3:09:47And so, he ended up falling back into paganism and doing some of these cult ritual sex things, etc. And so, he is considered the founder of some of the, again, the Vorborites we mentioned and some of the things that they described that he did. And these sexual rituals they talk about. So the antinomian, that's what it is. It's against the laws, against the norms. And so this kind of ritualistic stuff was taking place even then. And I think that's what John was alluding to with the Nicolaitans, according to some of the church fathers. But if you also look at another place in Revelation, the things that are happening, that did happen and will happen.

3:10:27It talks about the whore of Babylon and the beast, right? And so what do we see there? Who was the whore in the Old Testament? Well, this is what the prophets called Israel when they were unfaithful. You whore Israel. You were a prostitute. You prostituted yourself to the nations. Well, what did he mean by that? Well, those who honor false gods. So what is true love of God? It's seen in the Song of Songs in a chaste, nuptial embrace. So now the opposite of covenant fidelity is the embrace of love. The opposite of that is the infidelity of idol worship, which the prophets called whoredom or prostitution.

3:11:12And so you see the corrupt church or the corrupt religious leaders with the beast, the corrupt government. So for me, you see this interplay throughout history. So the synagogue of Satan is anywhere you see this mutual self-corruption of the deep church and the deep state. you could say look look at the president of mexico she goes to this ceremony a cleansing ceremony right i don't know anything about this yeah she went through uh you know she went through a ceremony of of uh so-called you know it was a pagan witchcraft ceremony cleansing yeah some kind of cleansing ceremony publicly she went through it so she claims to be jewish and she goes through this religious ceremony because it now the detractors say oh no no no that's just they're just doing something because that's kind of indigenous and so it's just this to me you have corruption you have a cult you have religious leaders church leaders blending together you know and then you see what i think was taylor swift with the 2013 2015 super bowl in one of her performances, dressed in a scantily dressed, dressed with, I think, flames on it, riding the back of this big golden beast.

3:12:34Again, the devil hides in plain sight. So I think you're always going to see this corruption and militating against the truth. I mean, that kind of brings me to the next category, which is another one that I've really, really been wanting to talk, selling souls and celebrity examples. Yeah. That's what I was getting at earlier. Oh, okay. Trading for power. Absolute trading for power. What's, you know, again... I mean, can you sell your soul? Yeah. Yeah, you can. How? The commonality that we hear, the demon, the devil comes and walks up to someone and says, you have what it takes. There's several famous, one in particular I know, that that's exactly what happened.

3:13:22and a guy walks up to her, she was trying to, she was performing at a low-level artist, and she's just distraught late after a performance outside of a club or something. A guy in a black suit walks up with a hat, fedora, whatever, kind of classic. You have what it takes. Me and I have what it takes. And so, you know, and he exchanges. You know, you have what it takes to trade this world. trade your soul for something in this world, for something temporal. Trade the eternal for the temporal. That's kind of the trait, so to speak. And so it kind of goes back to, was it, the song Crossroads, the old blues song that says that he described selling his soul for musical talent.

3:14:12And so we, oh, I forget his name, Robert, anyway, one of the famous, famous blues artists that supposedly did this. And so there's been several after that. You know, John Lennon, for example, said, I'm not sure about the Selling His Soul, but I know he's got a picture on a Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album. There's one of the pictures in the background as Aleister Crowley. It was on December 8, 1980, his last interview. Now, for most people, that doesn't mean anything to them. To a Catholic, December 8, that's the Feast of the Immaculate Conception. The what? The Immaculate Conception.

3:14:51When the angel Gabriel appeared to the Virgin Mary and said, you know, ,,

3:15:00Hail, full of grace. The Lord is with thee. We get the words of the Hail Mary. and announces and waits for her to say, let it be done to me according to thy word, and God became incarnate. God became now man. So anyway, so the announcing of the incarnation, December 8th is the feast when we recall that in the readings. But the Immaculate Conception is the readings we read there, but Mary prepared and preserved from the stain of original sin. So when she, you know, she was preserved from the stain by the merits of Jesus Christ, who was out of time, preserves her from the stain of original sin. As he said in Genesis 3.15, I will put enmity between the woman and the serpent.

3:15:51And so this preservation of sin meant that she was completely sinless. So December 8th is the day that marked her conception when she was conceived in her parents, in her mother's womb, and prepared her to receive Christ. So December 8th, the Immaculate Conception, celebrating this great feast, is the day that John Lennon has his last interview. And in that interview, he admits that something comes over me. You know, I admit that I'm, I think he says something like I'm possessed when I write songs, you know. And then that day he walks out and is assassinated. And so they asked the, every, one of the patrol, parole healer, healings, hearings for this, I forget his name, that shot, Lennon.

3:16:44Why did you do it? He said, I don't know. I just, I just realized I would do anything to be famous. he said i had voices telling me to shoot him you know so there's been other other actresses actors that have said that um that would say that have that have um that have sold their soul you know that have said they've they've admitted or demon takes over me when i perform beyonce says that beyonce says that yeah if she said in interviews that something just takes over me she also ascribes to that uh it's an it's a it's an african it's an ancient african religion that's of syncretism that came and made its way through into cuba um so so that that that um santeria says and there's this new guy out there that does a rap song and all the young people are saying this word six seven have you heard that little kids are supposedly there's a there's a kind of a panic among christian parents because this is a spreading this guy's a this guy's a known um you know, just not a nice guy according to police standards, okay?

3:17:48He's a rapper. And he's a known practitioner. He says, I'm a Santero. I do this. This is what I do. And his dad, he learned this religion from his dad and they're describing it. And, you know, what are these? Nobody ever is speculating on what do these numbers mean, you know? Like we talked about 444 or 4s? Yeah, 444. Yeah, so this numerology, what do these numbers symbolize? So I don't know, it's a lot of speculation. But I'll give you my theory if you want to hear it. I love doing it. You want to hear some crazy shit? Yeah. I guess it's probably not. You're not going to think it's crazy with everything you've seen.

3:18:24Yeah. This year we've had 44 million, 44.4 million watch time hours on Spotify. Just a coincidence. Is that crazy? That's incredible. I think it's watch time. I've got to go grab my phone and pull it up. But it's like 44.4 million listening hours or watch hours. What does four symbolize? Well, when I looked it up, it said that your guardian angels want you to know that they're watching out for you. Okay. Which is weird because that showed up right after a conversation I had right when I found Christ with a really good friend of mine who's Catholic that said, you need to know that you have guardian angels watching over you and they've been with.

3:19:11And right after that, that's when that popped up. The guardian angels are like snipers. You can't see them just when you need them. You're sure glad they're there. So yeah, so that symbol, the 444 also symbolizes the four corners of the earth. You're bringing 44.4 million reaching the four corners of the earth with this wonderful podcast. Everybody I know loves this podcast. It's a great podcast. Thank you. Yeah. So these numbers have symbols. Even the Hebrew letters had symbols. I mean, each symbol had their own numerology, you know. I mean, when somebody comes up to you in a suit and a hat that says, I think you've got what it takes.

3:20:07And they tell you, what do they say? We want you to trade your soul for something in this world. Well, I don't think that's the language. I don't think that's the language itself, but I think there's an offer made and one given. Robert Johnson, that's his name, The Crossroads. He describes it, that he sold his soul. So other artists have done that. Other artists have done that. They admit it. They admit it. And I'm going to go back to 6-7, because that's this latest thing, right? Well, I mean, we'll go back to that. Okay. I mean, is it all spelled out right there or is it a trap? I think it's...

3:20:44You got the president of the United States out there saying all over TV that he is not going to heaven. What do you think that means? I hope it's a bit of humility and a pinch of conscience and he wants to, after his term, spend his life glorifying God in prayer and conversion. And maybe, but I mean, when somebody just says, oh, something comes over me, I mean, that could be just a, I've probably said that when I'm doing something good, if I'm shooting good, or I don't, you know what I mean? Or I'm in a flow state and in a kill house or something, I'd probably say the same damn thing. Yeah. I think, I think.

3:21:22A lot of people have said that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the fear of the Lord. I'm not saying you're wrong either. Yeah, the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, you know? And I think the spiritual life conversion really begins when you recognize the spiritual battle. It's that guy in the mirror, you know? It's you looking at that picture of you in a helicopter, you know, that sits over your shoulder right there. It's me looking in the mirror and seeing my face. That's the real battle. That's where it begins. We focus too much on what the demon's doing instead of focusing on what do I got to do?

3:21:54You know, I'm a sinner, you know? And the reality is, if it weren't for the grace of God, we would be annihilated. We had no chance. No chance. But with the grace of God. I mean, what I'm asking is, do you think they all know that they've sold their soul? I think so. Or is it a trap? No. Is it a blackmail operation? Hey, you went to Epstein Island. Now you're going to keep going or else we're just going to tell everybody. I think it begins with, I think that's a great question. I think it begins with. Oh, that was a 15 year old that you just fucked right there. Right. I bet you didn't know that, did you?

3:22:43Yeah. Well, I bet you didn't know you're on camera too. You want to watch it again? Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? And so that is a, maybe not an innocent person, but they got fucking trapped. They got tricked. You know what I mean? Yes. Did they engage in sin? Did they realize it was going to be that? Yeah. Maybe, maybe not. Yeah, yeah. And then because of fear of being judged by man, then they go farther. So is that how it happens? Or is it very clear guidelines like a law-abiding contract? You're going to do this, and we're going to give you everything you want. I think there's some... Or is it both?

3:23:28I think it's probably both. I think it's volitional. For it to stick, it's going to have to be volitional. I mean, I choose this, whether it's in writing or not, or whether, you know, but there will always be a pound of flesh. And the problem is when you try to get out of one of these deals, that's when the stuff kicks up. As long as you're participating, then you keep getting yours. But the minute you try to get out, that's when the demon says, I don't think so. Can you get out? Yeah. In God's eyes, can you get out? Yes. Yeah. The devil's eyes is always no. But the demon has no rights to us. If you're baptized by right, your soul belongs to God.

3:24:09It belongs to God the Father. It belongs through Jesus Christ, right? Water and spirit regenerated. You belong to God now. if if if and so but we offer him permissions and we have to undo those permissions and and sometimes goes back to the original question um that there's sometimes there's a there's there's a temporal punishment for that there's a there's there's penance that needs to be done too many people go through these there's people that come out of the occult come out of satanism and suddenly they want a podcast i want to be the next sean ryan i don't know maybe you should spend some time in prayer and penance you know spend some time doing penance for that pray and reparation right preparation for for the sins you committed and so and so i'm not judging people because we're all sinners but there is a there there is a time for that but yeah when you try to get when you get out of that i think i think um i think you have you have a you you have um sometimes it's written um but i think largely it's something spoken okay it's something spoken but when you try to get out, that's when you get hit.

3:25:14And it's kind of like, you know, it's when that movement of conversion, and that's when the demon says, you're not getting out. So whether it's a spiritual affliction you're going to suffer, constant, you know, the demon is just going to pound you down like a, if you really understand the interplay between the fallen angel and the fallen human, and look at the relationship between, like, an abusive couple, you know, an abusive relationship. By the time the lady, the cops show up, you know, the house is a mess and, you know, he's got scratch on his face, she's got a black eye, and she says, don't take him away, I love him, it was my fault.

3:25:55So you got to get to that. And then what happens? And then the guy comes back and beats the crap out of her just to keep her in submission. So she tries to get out, he beats her up again, and she drops. So the same thing, the demon does the same thing. We try to get out, we make our movement back to God. You know, I had a lady, she left a, she's a sister of a good friend of mine, and she had just drifted, you know, like many people, she drifted, and was suffering movements to conversion, but suffering even worse. and she finally just cried out, Lord, when are you going to come for this lost sheep?

3:26:36And in that humility, I couldn't, I got a PhD, a master's degree. I got a pretty good handle, Greek and Latin. I couldn't have written a better prayer. When are you going to come for this lost sheep? And she has been flooded with graces, flooded with graces. So we always, always have the de profundis privilege, Psalm 130, out of the depths I cry to you, O Lord. And so that's why it's a foot race to the end. The demon's going to try to keep you away from making that conversion, but he can't. Ultimately, even possession, liberation from possession is self-liberation. Even if you need an exorcist, a little assistance from the church, you have to be the active agency in your own liberation.

3:27:20So that crying out to God and have mercy on me, a sinner. That's part of our protocol, praying, you know, have mercy on me, a sinner. So, yeah, it can. You can sell your soul, but you can have it back. But again, you talk about the old gods. So I remember I studied Latin in high school, right? And we were reading about the old myths of the ancient worlds. And at that time, that great singer, Charlie Daniels, was out, you know, and that song, The Devil Went Down to Georgia. And so our Latin teacher, he was a great man, Vietnam veteran, tough guy. He said, you know, this is nothing new. Selling your soul for musical talent, this challenge of the devil.

3:28:05He tells us the story of, we might even have translated it, I don't remember now. There was a Minotaur who found a discarded flute that one of the gods had dropped. and he challenges the god of music to to uh which is apollo to um a battle you know a battle who can play to try to and the winner could name the price right and so he he loses to apollo and apollo for his punishment flays him alive i thought and i was just thinking about that on this this topic and i and i started thinking about Now, this is, again, this is just my speculation on this one, okay? But I was thinking about the apostle Bartholomew.

3:28:54We have one apostle, one of the apostles, Bartholomew, was martyred by being flayed alive in Armenia. So I looked up who was the principal, and he converted the king of Armenia. Who was the principal deity of Armenia at the time of Bartholomew? And it was, I think the demon's name was Tyr. who was their version of Apollo. He was also the god of music. And he flayed him alive. That was his martyrdom. Maybe it's a coincidence. Maybe it's a coincidence. Wow. Now that's faith, by the way. That's faith. That's suffering for Christ. So yeah, so we see other stars have sold their souls and made these deals.

3:29:43I've seen them resurface cases. You know, one particular famous one in the 60s was killed, and one of the persons associated with her and her team that was killed with her, the grandson of that person came back, cycled back in as afflicted. And his grandfather was an attorney for this person and was getting her out of the diabolic pact and breaking off this relationship. So this stuff resurfaces. Wow. Resurfaces. The devil takes it very seriously, to your point, but he's going to try to tell you, you can't get out of it. Yeah, you can. There's nothing. There's nothing that you've done that Jesus Christ can't forgive.

3:30:41That's the good news. Wow. Yeah. Wow. I read the Bible from beginning to end. And you know what? In the end, we win. So we just have to keep fighting. We have to just keep fighting. How do we fight? Prayer, holiness, living the gospel the best we can, growing in the virtues, fasting, that old ancient old thing that we don't like to do, Small sacrifices. Living our faith. Focusing on our families. What God has given to us. Our own, where God has placed us. Influencing the world the best we can from wherever we're at. Whether it's podcasting or teaching or whatever. Bringing the gospel to the four corners 44.4 million times.

3:31:30Into our last dying breath. Right on. Yeah. Well done. Yeah. We didn't even get to the list, dude. we what list we do we even get to our questions oh dad we get through them almost all of it yeah so is there anything else you want to cover oh no i'm i'm here your service so yeah i i think i think the big thing is here is is um saint paul says don't it's not even don't even discuss the deplorable works of darkness, but exposed them. And so it's not something we should focus on and talk about, but the reality is real. But also the greater reality, again, the demon is tertiary in spiritual combat.

3:32:16The primary focus is Jesus Christ. We have to stay focused on Christ and not approach this through curiosity, but approach it through, you know, um through to understand that it's through this that that we become holier that we become more perfect in the spiritual life that we become better christians better fathers better wives husbands children aunts uncles be the best person we can the best version of ourselves be christ in the world the best way we can and not you know it's it's the devil's gonna try to get us focused so much on him that we you know we lose sight of that we have to stay focused on that and have hope be of good cheer you know one of my buddies sent me uh there was a firefight in in afghanistan and I think it was two Marines, and they were behind this big rock, and you could see the rounds hitting, and they were turning, looking and turning, and one of them says something funny, and you couldn't hear what he said.

3:33:09You could just hear the fire. And so they just start laughing, you know? They start laughing. And it isn't that they're fearless Marines or fearless soldiers, you know? It's that you recognize you have to have peace. You have to laugh. I'm sure you have plenty of cases, times, where you're just laughing at the most inopportune time. But you make friends with death, you know? You make peace with the Lord. And take what you do very seriously, but have joy. Have joy in that, you know? And so I think that, to me, is the key takeaway in all this darkness that we see in the world. Be of good cheer. I have overcome the world.

3:33:49We talk about Christmas is coming up. This is when we celebrate light coming into the world. The Savior of the world is coming. The Savior of the world. Ironically, December 25th is the, this is what some of the church fathers say, this is the winter solstice that the sun is at its lowest point, the lowest point where the darkness is over the earth in proportion to the sun, right? This is the lowest point of the light of the world, which is exactly nine months prior at the spring equinox. When the sun, which is March 25th, when the sun and the darkness are equal, except the sun has a slight advantage.

3:34:32March 25th is the Annunciation, when the angel Gabriel announced to the Virgin Mary that she would conceive a son 25 months, I mean, nine months later on the 25th of December. And so the church fathers saw this, that God is reclaiming the cosmos, that darkness is giving way to light. that the darkness in man gives way to the light of the Son, the Son of God. That's the symbolism. Advent, adventus, means arrival, coming. It also means, the Greek word equivalent means presence, Christ's presence in the Eucharist, Christ's presence in the church. We look at his earthly coming. In Christmas, we celebrate the child as coming in humility.

3:35:16And that second coming, we anticipate Him coming in glory, coming in judgment. And we look to the east for that second coming that we see in our own journey. We're no different than Israel. We're just as unfaithful as they are, looking and being faithful to what God has given us and reuniting, rekindling that fire of our love for Jesus Christ. I think that's the big thing that we should get ready for as we anticipate the coming of Christ in Christmas. I'm sure Lee will say it much more eloquently than I can. He's a preacher. I'm a teacher, so. But let's get ready for Christmas and prepare and focus on Christ.

3:35:51That sounds good. I love what you said about taking a look in the mirror, too. Yeah. That's the real battle. That's the real battle. That's the guy that I'm really... That's like St. Paul says, that's the old self, man. That old guy keeps coming around. And it's a constant battle. It's a constant struggle, but that's the spiritual life. We got to get that guy subdued first. Yeah. See, it was G.K. Chesterton, there was a contest, a writing contest at the newspaper. What's wrong with the world? An essay contest. And he submits a piece of paper that says, what's wrong with the world? I am. I'm what's wrong with the world.

3:36:27So beginning with me, you want to change the world? Change yourself. You want to change your family. Yeah. One at a time. Love it. Yeah. Well, Dan, thank you for coming, man. I can't wait to see you again. Good, man. I love where you're at. I love it. It's so beautiful. It's gorgeous country over here. It's God's country right here. So anytime, just give me an excuse, I'll be back. I will send you plenty of excuses. Okay. Thank you. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Thank you. Yeah.

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