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Podcast Notes: The Shawn Ryan Show - Episode #269 with Nick Shirley
Episode Overview
- Guest: Nick Shirley, independent journalist, YouTuber, and content creator known for investigative videos and street interviews.
- Key Topics:
- Alleged fraud in Minnesota's government-funded daycare programs.
- Cultural and political commentary on Gen Z and the state of media.
- The impact of drug addiction in urban areas, particularly fentanyl use.
Introduction
- Shawn Ryan introduces Nick Shirley, highlighting his rise as a journalist who has gained attention for exposing issues that mainstream media often overlook.
- Shirley discusses his background, starting from prank videos to serious investigative reporting.
Key Themes and Discussions
The Minnesota Daycare Fraud
- Shirley's viral video uncovered $100 million in misused funds in Minnesota's government-funded daycare programs, which prompted an FBI investigation.
- Impact of the Video:
- Over 100 million views, resulting in increased scrutiny of Minnesota's political landscape.
- Discussion on politicians’ accountability, specifically mentioning Governor Tim Walz’s decision not to run for re-election.
- Media Critique:
- Legacy media's failure to cover significant fraud while attacking Shirley instead.
- Comparison of his grassroots reporting with the inefficacy of established media outlets.
Investigative Approach
- Shirley emphasizes the importance of direct, minimalistic on-location reporting versus traditional journalism.
- Discusses the community's response and the challenges he faced, including threats and backlash from those involved in the fraud.
Cultural Commentary
- Explores generational divides, particularly how Gen Z interacts with media and politics.
- Nick Fuentes Discussion:
- Fuentes is mentioned as an influencer who resonates with youth through raw and candid commentary.
- Shirley alludes to how both he and Fuentes aim to represent truths that mainstream media avoids.
The Fentanyl Crisis
- Shirley shares his experiences in urban areas like Kensington, Philadelphia, and San Francisco, describing streets filled with addiction and the societal impact of drugs.
- Discusses the normalization of drug use among children in these environments and the societal apathy towards the crisis.
International Perspectives
- Briefly touches on Shirley's international reporting, including his time in El Salvador and the impact of illegal immigration in the U.S.
- Mentions his experiences in Paris where he observed rampant scams and the effects of mass migration on local culture.
Audience Engagement
- Q&A segment from Shawn's Patreon community.
- Shirley expresses his motivation to expose fraud and corruption, asserting the need for accountability.
Conclusion
- Future Aspirations:
- Shirley plans to continue his investigative work and expand into stories involving election integrity and immigration.
- Ryan praises Shirley's courage and the impact of his work on raising awareness about systemic issues.
Key Takeaways
- Grassroots Journalism: The importance of independent journalism in exposing fraud and holding public figures accountable.
- Generational Shift: Gen Z's desire for authenticity and truth in media, leading to a demand for new forms of content and engagement.
- Community Impact: The direct consequences of drug addiction on communities and the need for societal solutions.
Links and Resources
- Nick Shirley's Social Media:
- [YouTube](https://youtube.com/@nickshirley)
- [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/nickshirley)
- [Twitter (X)](https://x.com/nickshirleyy)
- [Podcast](https://open.spotify.com/show/4fm9G0i6lyDZ3XE5fz3Lb9)
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This episode presents a compelling narrative of investigative journalism's role in modern society, particularly as it relates to fraud exposure, cultural issues, and the challenges faced by younger generations in navigating both media and political landscapes.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOExposing Fraud in Minnesota
9:31 to 14:00
Nick discusses his investigation into daycare fraud and the political implications.
“Well, you're probably not going to get it into Paris.”
Exploring Daycare Fraud in Minnesota
14:00 to 17:35
Learn about the alarming daycare fraud happening in Minnesota and its implications.
“You know, Jeremy brought up a good point.”
Investigating the Depths of Minnesota's Daycare System
20:32 to 28:00
Delve deeper into the systemic issues surrounding daycares and the community's awareness.
“and everybody's telling you to look into the fraud.”
Investigating Daycare Fraud in Minnesota
28:00 to 28:59
Learn about the shocking number of daycares operating fraudulently under the same roof in Minnesota.
“Wasn't there like 10 daycares in one building?”
Consequences of Exposing Fraud
29:00 to 29:59
Discover the backlash faced by individuals who expose fraud and the personal impact it can have.
“Because it doesn't matter, and nobody's checking up on them.”
Media's Role in Shaping Narratives
30:00 to 31:29
Understand how mainstream media reacts to whistleblowers and shapes public perception.
“they tried to debunk all my whole entire story.”
Critique of Legacy Media
31:30 to 33:19
Examine the host's critical perspective on legacy media, especially regarding its audience and quality.
“And I actually even gave her the opportunity to interview me live because she had her live booth right there.”
Financial Mismanagement and Its Consequences
33:20 to 35:49
Explore the staggering amount of money lost to fraudulent daycare accounts and its societal impact.
“And an embarrassment for every single one of them.”
The Ineffectiveness of Government Oversight
35:50 to 37:18
Discuss the government's failure to regulate daycare fraud and its implications on society.
“Yeah, it's a disgrace, and it's such a slap in the face of all of us.”
Media Tactics Against Critics
37:19 to 40:04
Learn how media outlets label and discredit critics of their narratives, using buzzwords and stereotypes.
“because the fraudsters complain the loudest.”
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Accountability for Fraudulent Practices
40:05 to 42:00
Delve into the importance of accountability in cases of fraud and the communities involved.
“Then they call me a conspiracy theorist.”
Discussion on Fraud in Minnesota
42:00 to 43:00
Exploring the nature of fraud in Minnesota's Somali community.
“89 % of the fraud being committed in Minnesota is by us Somalians.”
Nick Fuentes and Gen Z Trust
43:00 to 45:40
Analyzing Nick Fuentes' appeal to Gen Z and their search for truth.
“You're 23 and you've watched how fast Jerome reporting could move online.”
Gen Z's Desire for Authenticity
45:40 to 48:00
Understanding Gen Z's need for authenticity and real conversations.
“That's why you see so many of them kind of either feeling very defeated or people are actually rising up to the battle that we're facing.”
Media Coverage and Viral Success
51:50 to 56:00
Discussing media reactions and the viral impact of a recent video.
“Policies issued by Western Southern Life Assurance Company, not available in certain states, prices subject to underwriting and health questions.”
California's Homelessness Crisis
56:00 to 1:04:40
Discussion on the severe issues of homelessness and drug addiction in California.
“The fentanyl crisis isn't as bad as the media makes it out to be.”
Conversations with the Addicted
1:05:46 to 1:10:00
Insights into interactions with drug addicts and the tragic circumstances they face.
“Sean, real quick, where can people keep watching?”
Venezuelan Liberation and Political Discontent
1:10:00 to 1:10:40
Discussing the Venezuelan exodus and dissatisfaction with leftist leaders.
“And meanwhile, Venezuelans are celebrating all across the world because they've finally been liberated.”
Experiences in El Salvador
1:11:31 to 1:16:30
Narrative about visiting El Salvador and insights on immigration.
“I don't even know how I got that opportunity.”
Scams and Migration in Paris
1:16:30 to 1:20:52
Discussion of scams in Paris and the impact of migration.
“Well, Paris, I got attacked by scammers.”
Migration and Political Manipulation
1:20:52 to 1:22:26
Exploring the relationship between migration and political agendas.
“That's why you also saw three million people go out to the streets of London to stop mass migration.”
Childcare Fraud and Activism
1:22:26 to 1:24:00
Discussing childcare fraud and the shift from journalism to activism.
“Just for purely votes and to keep people in power.”
The Shift from Journalism to Activism
1:24:00 to 1:25:36
Explore the pressure on journalists to become activists and the implications.
“Now you're kind of starting to see it happen here in America.”
Experiences and Insights from Venezuela
1:25:36 to 1:27:08
Discuss personal experiences in Venezuela and the impact of its political landscape.
“But I've been hearing a lot of grumblings that a lot of these Dominion voting machines and the election fraud is coming from Venezuela.”
The Influence of Trump and Elon Musk
1:27:08 to 1:28:36
Analyze the roles of Trump and Musk in shaping public discourse and media.
“in a lot of ways as far as like being the billionaire that he is, having all his properties.”
Future Guests and Recommendations
1:28:36 to 1:29:54
Nick shares potential guests for the show and their significance.
“If you had three people to recommend for this show, who would they be?”
Transcript
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0:36Nick Shirley, welcome to the show, man. Beautiful hoodie. Thanks for the new wardrobe. Love this. It's awesome. Quality Learning Center, 1-800-FRAUD. What's this from? We're going to be leering a lot today. What inspired this? A lot of fraud happening in Minnesota. So, hey, just for anybody that's listening that knows Nick Shirley, which is pretty much the whole world at this point, he's selling these amazing hoodies. So head over to where? ShirleyDefense.com. ShirleyDefense.com. And get yourself a quality learning center hoodie. But, man, I've been watching you. I feel like I've been watching you for about a year and a half, maybe.
1:20and me and my team got in touch with you, what, about a year? I think about a year ago and wow. Yeah, it's been quite the ride. You got some balls, man. This whole thing started, I mean, I think when I first saw you, I believe you were maybe in California or Washington or maybe Oregon. I can't remember, but you're running around I'm talking to addicted street people, basically, fentanyl users. Yeah, I've done a lot of work, especially around the fentanyl crisis in America. Between fentanyl, the border. You've been everywhere. Been everywhere. That's just where I first found you. But, you know, so this latest thing, the Somali learning centers in Minnesota, I mean, wow.
2:12Wow. Just to start off, I mean, do you realize what you've done? I didn't realize what I had done until I posted the video and it received over 100 million views. What do you think you've done? I think I just kind of show people how obvious fraud is inside the United States. Because people always talked about fraud. Nick, you've done a lot more than expose fraud, Matt. That's huge. It's amazing. We're going to get all into that. But, dude, you've exposed major fraud because of that. I think we're likely going to see a politician held accountable. And on top of that, how many major media conglomerates are in the country?
3:00We've got Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, Newsmax, News Nation, ABC. What am I missing? you got npr pb npr pbs billions and billions and billions like for all these companies and a 23 year old who's in business with his mom and a microphone goes and uncovers this shit you've destroyed every fucking media conglomerate in the country it's it's a they are a complete joke every single fucking one of them yeah they really are and then when it comes down to investigating the fraud, instead of investigating the fraud, they investigated me. I saw that. I saw they went after you. They attacked you. What do you think that is?
3:49Do you think they're embarrassed that they didn't cover it up, that they didn't find it, or do you think that they're angry that you're the one that found it, or do you think that they're angry that you actually uncovered it in general? One, they're embarrassed, and also I pose a threat to everything that they are. I pose a threat to their dollars. I pose a threat to their viewership. Why would they want me to get more views than them? And when you have, and people are realizing now with X and other platforms, you can then post and then it can be seen by the entire world. You don't actually need to go talk to the senior editor inside the boardroom to get the video approved to go post.
4:26You can simply go out by yourself, film the video, go ahead and post it, and then let the world make their own analysis on what they've just seen. You know, me and my producer Jeremy were talking about how to make you money before you got here. Because I was like, man, this kid needs a business underneath him. And we were actually, we didn't have time to do it, but we wanted to print up hoodies. Because, you know, you're the hoodie guy now. And we wanted to print hoodies that said, turns out you can just do shit. With meaning, all you need to do is just show up and do it. But, man, like, congratulations.
5:03Seriously. You've done a lot more than just expose fraud. You've exposed legacy corporate media. You are very possibly going to be one of the first people to ever actually uncover something that actually holds a politician accountable. I mean, we just saw, didn't he just announce that he's not running for re-election today? Yeah, he dropped out from re-election. How's that feel? That's you, man. That's you. Yesterday he was calling me a delugional conspiracy theorist, and then today he dropped out. Oh man, Tim Walsh, fucking career politician, picking on a 23-year-old kid. What a tough guy. Yeah, what a tough guy.
5:39What a tough guy. What a fraudster he is. Have you ever met him? No. Would you like to meet him? Oh yeah, I'd love to meet him. I'd love to meet him. I tried to go to his office, but he wouldn't let me. Did you really? Yeah, I tried to go to his office last time in Minnesota, and his guy came out, and they're like, no, Tim's not here. And my guy David was telling him like, no, we have questions to ask him. And how come you're allowing this to happen? And the guy who's running his desk was like, no, we just can't talk today. What questions were you going to ask him? Anything specific that you were just dying to ask him?
6:14Yeah, because he had been talking about how there was organized crime inside Minnesota. And if you're a state representative or you work for the government in Minnesota, by law, you have to notify the authorities that there is laws being broken inside of your state. And he didn't do that. So there's like a statue that he's reliable to tell the government about like a law, but he didn't do it. And he knew the crime was happening, but he kept letting it go on. How do you know he knew? Because he said in a press conference, organized crime is why some of this stuff has happened. And so he knew about organized crime, but he never did anything about it.
6:52so he he admitted to it do you think he's going to be held accountable i mean if you look at polymarket polymarket's a whole lot of different percentages here but will anybody be charged over daycare fraud in minnesota by certain dates percentages make it look like it's definitely happening at some point but you know what happens if nobody's been charged 22 percent think that he that we'll see somebody held accountable or charged for the daycare fraud, 22 % by the end of the month in January, 76 % say in six months, and 83 % think it'll happen by the end of the year. Those are some of the most promising percentages I've seen.
7:35What do you think? I think they will. It might take a little bit more time because I think we want them to come with all the evidence. So it's literally impossible for Tim to escape or whether it's Tim or Elon Omar or if it's just one of the fraudsters who's running these daycares. We want the evidence to be so solidified that they can't escape and so it might maybe take a little bit longer but there has to be accountability because the fraud is so open and blatant. I mean they already charged somebody for feeding our future. She was a white woman too so this isn't about race. She was a white woman she got charged and then they also did charge somebody just a few months ago who was a Somalian for$7.2 million,$7.2 or$7.6 for Medicaid fraud.
8:19But after being charged and found guilty, the judge overturned it and let the guy walk. What? Yes. So that's how bad the government is inside of Minnesota. And so that's why it's so critical by what I just did. Not only did we expose fraud, but we also just exposed how corrupt and how that government is not working for the people, for the Minnesotans. Well, Nick, let me give you a we're going to dive into this pretty deep. Let me give you an introduction here. Nick Shirley, a bold 23 year old independent journalist who's taken the Internet by storm with your fearless on the ground investigations.
8:58Known for exposing stories, the legacy media won't touch from immigration debates to government waste. Recent bombshell video uncovering alleged massive fraud in Minnesota's taxpayer-funded programs racked up over 126 million views. Literally broke the internet. A fearless patriot who goes to where the stories are, and you're the youngest guest I've ever had on this show. And once again, thank you for the hoodie. So, a couple of things, Nick. I'm worried about your safety. so you know i got some buddies over at sig one of them's name is jason and uh he's the vp of marketing over there i told him you were coming on the show he's like i fucking love that guy you got to ask him if he's carrying which i did you're not so now you are no but uh so i got you a little something me and jason a little something to protect yourself out there on the streets the mean streets of Minnesota, Portland, San Francisco, Seattle, Paris.
10:02Well, you're probably not going to get it into Paris. No way. So that is the Sig Sauer P365 Legion. Don't point it at yourself. I know, I know. It's unloaded, so you're good. Holds 17 rounds in the magazine plus one in the pipe, so that's 18 rounds. They got their brand-new carry optic on there, a little red dot and then if you look at the slits at the front of the uh barrel there that's to help with your recoil management but that is like that is the cadillac of subcompact edc guns pistols so whoa thank you you're welcome man you're welcome actually so i've never been gifted something like this so thank you well now you have you're welcome this is pretty epic and And if you think that's cool, you'll really think this shit's cool.
10:55The gummy bears. Vigilance League gummy bears, buddy. Legal in all 50 states. Made right here in the USA and Michigan. Maybe you can hand those out to Somali toddlers that are in daycare. Maybe. We could find them. In the learning center. Wow. Thank you so much, Sean. Yeah, you're welcome, man. You're welcome. And then lastly, before we get on with the interview, I have a Patreon account. If you don't have one, you should. But I've turned this Patreon subscription account into quite the community. And so one of the things I do is I offer them the opportunity to ask every guest a question. They were fucking pumped that you're here.
11:34So this is from Brad Campbell. Nick, it takes courage to take on politics and politicians, especially when bringing potential fraud to the forefront. What was your personal motivation to move forward, to uncover, and what drove you to be so relentless? Lastly, do you have ambitions for other stories of similar involvement? Yeah, I think when you see just the corruption, when it's just so obvious, for instance, with the border, I saw people literally get trafficked over into the United States. And now you're seeing people too afraid to call things out for what they are and enable fraud to happen inside their state.
12:14Meanwhile, Americans are suffering, and yet these politicians are too afraid to be called a racist or Islamophobe for saying that 89 % of the population is committing fraud inside of their state. So I think it's just more so standing up for the people that actually represent you. And it's necessary because there needs to be somebody to do it. If it takes a 23-year-old to do it, that's my responsibility, is to show people what's actually happening. and I do have plans to go to other locations in other states and I'm a YouTuber at the end of the day too so I have to keep posting videos now it's a lot more dangerous I have to right now I have 24-7 security with me because pirates are after me essentially I didn't piss off the best group to be pissing off been there buddy yeah so it never goes away once it's here now I have that and it's just harder to plan stuff and but it's necessary so i will continue to do it good man good it's important it's really important what you're doing do you i am curious have you seen have you have you do you think you've inspired people have you have you seen i hate to call them copycats but i don't know what else to call them i mean are you inspiring are you seeing any like people getting inspiration from what you're doing and getting out there and starting to cover uncover more and more stuff.
13:36Yeah, I think like usually I'm always kind of ahead of the stuff. So like, for instance, I was ahead of this fraud stuff. And now after you've seen other people go and do that, which is great. It is a little worrisome because you don't want just a bunch of people going knocking on daycares. Like I did all my due diligence with the man, David, before I went and did it. Doesn't sound like you actually knocked on any daycares though. Me? I mean, we've knocked on, we try to talk to people, but no one was there. If there's no kids, is it a daycare? Yeah, well, that's true. There wasn't any daycares.
14:08It was just buildings. You know, Jeremy brought up a good point. He was talking about, I can't remember how many kids you have, but he's like, if you have four kids and I have four kids and I watch your four kids and you watch my four kids, there's two daycares. That's$25 ,000 a month per person. Yes. I was like, holy shit. Is that? So let's go to the very beginning. How did this pop up on your radar? So I knew about the fraud happening because I went to Minnesota last June to do a video on the rise of Islam inside of America. And I had heard that it's growing super fast and that mosques are popping up everywhere inside Minnesota.
14:51Christian churches are turning into mosques. And I started talking to the people. And everyone kept telling me, well, you need to look into the fraud. And I said, well, how do I look into the fraud? Who's everybody? All these Minnesotans, they started reaching out to me, and they knew I was in their state. So you just went up there to talk about the rise of Muslim church, the Muslim religion in Minnesota. Yes. And talking about churches being converted into mosques. I mean, are you seeing, was there a lot of that happening? A lot of it, yes. I mean, there's entire communities that have been completely pushed out by the Somalian communities.
15:28Like, there's places like Cedar Riverside, for instance, right next to a college, there used to be a bar there called Palmer's Bar. Last June it was there. I went back last week, it's not there anymore. They have entirely pushed out white people, anybody that's not Muslim or anybody who's not Somalian, they've pushed them outside of their communities. What's it look like inside those communities? Is it clean? No, it's not clean at all. You have... Is it safe? No, it's not safe. In fact, in June, I was with my mom. She helps me film a lot of times. They jumped me and my mom. They jumped over me, grabbed my camera.
16:05They took it from me. And then my mom, she tried to go like all mama bear and like step in. I was like, mom, stop. And so I actually kind of stopped bringing my mom with me after that because the Somalis tried to attack us and they're about ready to punch me and smash my camera. And then I had my mom coming after me, like trying to defend for myself. And I had to like get my mom out of the situation. And then I had this like six foot four Somalian man with three other guys, and he's going in the back of his car to grab something, and my mom's freaking out, and I'm just trying to get my camera back.
16:34And then they finally give it back, and then they follow us all the way out. No shit. So they're pissed that you're... There's entire Somali gangs that control these locations. What are the names of the gangs? Do you know? I don't know the names of the gangs. How big are the gangs? I'm sure they're just friend groups, because that's what kind of gangs are in the United States for the most part. It's just a group of friends that walk around armed, like they're little militias, and whether it be 10 friends, 20 friends, 30 friends, or an entire organization, it kind of varies depending on cities here in the United States, but there's entire just gangs.
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20:30How, so who was telling you, you're going around looking at it, how Minnesota's changed. and everybody's telling you to look into the fraud. Who's, I mean, when did it start? Yeah, so I put on my Instagram story that I was in Minnesota and this lady by the name of Jennifer, she's, she messaged me. She's like, I'm a real estate agent here. You wouldn't believe what's happening. Our property taxes are going up. They're putting in these daycares and these, these adult centers next, right next door to the house I'm trying to sell. And I can't even tell the seller that I can't even tell the buyer that the house next to it is an adult daycare center or else I'll be breaking a law.
21:11Well, breaking a law? Like, they're not able to let people know that, that's what she told me, they're not able to let people know that they're running these adult centers or these adult home health care facilities next door. Breaking a law? Yeah, like, they cannot. And she's in the government, for instance, if a person is a PDF or a predator, the state's not necessary for them to tell the neighbor next door that they're moving in or that if that real estate agent is then selling that house, she can't tell the client who's living next door. Holy shit. And their property taxes have gone up a ton too in Minnesota.
22:03like there's a lot like the corruption is really bad you looked into that law is that a law or was she mistaken i just there's a word that says you cannot disclose that there's daycare next i've never heard of any i've never heard of it's a commercial business not a not a well these are private ones they have like private daycares and private adult daycares private home health cares. And like, they're just normal houses, people living next door, and they have, they're taking care of four people that need their assistance. And they're just collecting checks from the government. And that's not only happening in Minnesota and Washington State.
22:44There's all these just neighborhoods where there's just a random house that's a daycare or an adult daycare or assisted living or home health care. how many of the like if you had to put a percentage on how many people knew this was going on up there what would the percentage be at least 50 of the population are you so this is this is this is common scuttlebutt talk around the town at the barber shop and the restaurant people are bitching about this and in grocery store everybody knows this is like common knowledge it's the rest of the country that didn't know yeah even so this is police departments had to known about it.
23:23The governor, everybody knows about it. Yes. I mean, Tim Waltz said in 2019, he was fighting fraud. In 2017, there was videos of people bringing in millions of dollars through the TSA airport and moving that money back to Somalia. 2015, there's FBI footage of daycares giving cash to the moms inside the daycares. Like that fraud has been happening for so long, but nobody had actually brought to a national level to the point where Bill could physically see with their eyes that there's nobody inside the daycares and these people can't even give you a brochure to enroll a child like okay maybe it doesn't matter if a kid's in the daycare but at least give me a brochure to enroll my little boy Joey so it could leer a little but they can't even do it so hold hold how did you when did you make the switch when did you go from looking at churches that converted into Moss to when did, when did, I mean, where did you start?
24:20Who's David? So I did that video back in June. I was just there for two days. I couldn't really make a video. I didn't want to just go and slander a group of people if I actually didn't have any proof other than just taking it for people's word around the community. And so I had been doing my own research, trying to make this video and it took me a couple of months. I wasn't really getting too far. Like I needed the physical numbers from the state capitol. And then I randomly get this message from this guy named David on Instagram. And he says, Nick, I have all the proof, all the money. Someone from inside the capitol has given me this information.
24:55And there's nobody inside these daycares. Come to Minnesota and I'll help you expose the fraud. And I usually don't respond to DMs because I get so many of them. And I was like, all right, send me your number. Let's hop on a phone call. So I get down with the GM. I give this guy a call, and he's super charismatic, super cool guy. I was like, all right, this guy would be awesome. And he tells me all the information. And I tell him, all right, I'm coming to Minnesota around December 16th. How many years has this guy been diving into this subject? He's been looking at it for years, upwards of seven years.
25:30And he's also been fighting corruption since he was around my age as well. Like, just fighting to keep the, he kept, He fought to keep the twins inside of Minnesota, the baseball team. And so he's kind of been like a lifelong, like, he just wants the truth to be out more than anything. And I was the only person who actually gave him the opportunity to present his evidence and go out and do what we did. The local news, they have been reporting on fraud for years. But they had been. They had been, but they weren't able to get it pushed to a national level because these news organizations don't know how to reach audiences.
26:11I mean, there's a video from 20... But this is where the news always starts. It always starts at the local level. It starts at the local level, and then it goes to mainstream. And so mainstream had to have seen this and refused to pick it up, and that's both right and left, by the way. Yes, and Tim Waltz was also selected to be vice president, and within just a day, he raised the most money than any other candidate in history. Actually, I didn't know that. Yeah, you can look that up. Kamala Harris picked him. There's actually really no reason to pick Tim Walts. Nobody really knew him. He's a weird guy who vouches for tampons in boys' bathrooms, and he ends up raising the most amount of money than any other candidate in U.S.
26:56history within a day for a campaign. Where do you think that came from? Maybe a little bit of the day.
27:06Like, it's just so obvious. And so I really do hope they crack down on it and, like, prosecute Tim Walz. So where did you guys start, you and David? You go up to Minnesota, you meet David, where do you go? Meet David, I go to his office, and he goes, well, I have these daycares just literally just right by my place where I work. How many daycares are out there? Oh, if you drive around Minneapolis, within just a few blocks, you'll start seeing adult daycares, daycares, autism centers, home healthcare places, transportation vehicles. Like the whole entire city of Minneapolis, like is plagued by this fraud.
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27:45Are you serious? You can't go a mile without finding one. Wow. You'll wonder why there are all these daycares. How many did you go to? Yeah, one day we went to seven, but inside of some of those locations, there were three or four inside of the same one. You went in one building, I think. Wasn't there like 10 daycares in one building? In one building, there was 14 healthcare companies. Another one, there's 22 healthcare companies mixed with daycares. And then in one building specifically, there were three daycares inside the same building, all receiving money from the government. Okay, so when you're talking about these buildings, is this a business suite where it's you're in suite 102, you're in 103, you're in 104, or are there three daycares all within suite 102?
28:40Both. You got to be shitting me. In my video, I go inside one building with, I think it was 14, and they all had these, they had their own rooms. But for instance, in room 7C, there were three healthcare companies operating inside the same one. And if you're trying to make a profit, why would you have all these competitors surrounding you? It doesn't make any sense. Because it doesn't matter. Because it doesn't matter, and nobody's checking up on them. And even if they do get checked, for instance, Quality Leering Center, they have received over 90 violations over just the past few years. Yet they keep giving them$1.9 million a year.
29:25And then the lady has photos with her and Ihan Omar. And then that same lady is also taking the mayor to her other daycare in a video. and then that guy who comes out and says that I'm the fraud is parting with the mayor of Minneapolis after he wins the election.
29:47It's just complete fraud. And for them to come after me, like I actually never even gave my opinions on the internet. However, my handle is forced to start giving my opinions because they came after me. They came after my family. They doxed my entire family. How did they come after you? Be specific. Well, they tried to come after me. they tried to debunk all my whole entire story. They then... Who's they? All the news. Just get more specific. CNN, who within CNN? CBS. Who's the reporter? I don't even know her name because she's irrelevant. Nobody knows who she is. We'll put a clip of it up. Did you come during their normal operating hours when you came to visit?
30:27I came at 11 a.m., I believe, and I also came the following day, later in the day. The point of it is not whether or not I came at the right at the right time of their operation hours The point is that blacked outdoors. They can't give you any information you call that number no one answers I wasn't trying to go inside and they There should be a way for somebody actually to call that number and somebody be able to answer these aren't real businesses But surely you don't think a daycare should just be unlocked. You shouldn't be able to just walk into a daycare reception No, they every daycare is locked And so, okay, you bring up a fair point, then why can't they actually give me information how to enroll a child?
31:04How do you know that all the allegations that you're making are true? How do I know that they're true? Well, we showed you guys the, we showed you guys what was happening, and then you guys can go ahead and make your own analysis. We're coming, so we can make our own analysis. Are you 100 % sure you're true? Yeah, I am 100 % sure I'm true. You're saying that this is a fraudulent daycare. There's kids being dropped off right now. Yes, the commissioner of children literally said a week ago this place was closed. Did you know that? They're showing face right now. And she seemed like a very nice lady when I was talking to her.
31:30And I actually even gave her the opportunity to interview me live because she had her live booth right there. She wouldn't do it. She wouldn't interview you? Not live. Why? I wonder why. I wonder why. And so I knew as soon as I had done my interview with her, I was like, well, we'll see what she puts out. And I actually ended up looking very good because I said, well, yeah, I'm sure. I gave you guys evidence. Go ahead and make your own analysis. And I did give her the opportunity to interview me live. she wouldn't do it it's so i mean it's i just the oh man they have legacy media has clung to the baby boomer generation and they will fucking die with the baby boomer generation we'll never change that generation's mind neither i mean they're bought and sold on legacy media but they when and they will fucking die with the baby boomer generation.
32:24It will be a glorious death. I can't wait. I don't know who's even watching. Who's gonna continue to watch them after my grandparents are gone? That's what I'm telling you. They're gonna die with the baby boomer generation. Like, Fox News is probably the only one where I feel like they provide actually, like, their show's a good quality show. If you watch CNN, it's very boring. Fox News at least keeps it interesting for you to watch. But it's gonna be interesting, too, with Fox News. like will they eventually just drown out as well I don't know I feel like they're maybe doing a better job than other news organizations but they also have their own biases as well each each organization has their own bias but like you watch CNN it's so boring if you watch MSNBC a lot of their stuff just on zoom but if you watch Fox you'll notice how much higher quality it is and if you get invited on they treat you a lot better as far as like bringing you on um they like make sure you're good to go they check you out all these other ones are like all right hop on the zoom and okay sounds going and then after you finish your shot they just like drop you you don't even know what to do next but fox is the most professional by far you're leaps and bounds ahead of all of them man congratulations i'd like to think so thank you that's pretty awesome Pretty fucking awesome.
33:44And an embarrassment for every single one of them. So the first place you go to, how many times did you strike out before you actually found one? We went to the first one, Mako Child Care. And Mako is also connected with another child care inside the same building. So inside the same building, two daycare centers were receiving separate money. And I thought we were just going to go and open the door and talk to the lady at the reception about how can I enroll my child. child and I get there and all the windows are completely blacked out and above me the sign says open 7 a.m to 10 p.m I ring the doorbell the doorbell doesn't even work what's going on you guys just received millions of dollars over five million dollars the past few years who can I talk to no one's there then finally a Somali pulls up and I ask her where where are the children at work can we talk to somebody about enrolling our child she goes i don't know she hadn't even seen him do you know how much money has been sucked out of the munnesota government for this stuff is this all state funding it's state and federal funding so ccap funding is child care assistance program which is state and federal money that's why you saw the hhs breeze uh 185 million dollars in funding because a lot of some of this money is federal money as But just over the past few years, the guy came out and he said, uh, anywhere's of upwards of$9 billion.
35:16$9 billion. We have people dying on the streets, homeless, veterans with a suicide epidemic, the biggest fentanyl crisis the world's ever seen, and we're fucking sending$9 billion to fake fucking daycare accounts so that they can send it right back to Somalia. We're sending$40 million a week, up to$87 million a week to the Taliban, which I fought for fucking damn near, well, about 14 years, and the country fought for about, what, 21, 22, 20-something years. Yeah, it's a disgrace, and it's such a slap in the face of all of us. It is. I mean, what do you think about, you've seen all the hype around this tax strike, haven't you?
36:01Mm-hmm. What do you think about that? I mean, what did the Boston Tea Party do? They did what they did over just a few percentages. And we're paying upwards of, some people are paying 50%. So obviously... And none of it's coming back. And none of it's coming back. None of it's, it's all going to some other country and some other fucking land. And it sure as shit isn't coming here. That's very obvious. Yeah, and it's like, why are we funding this? And why are we funding all these other programs too? I mean, lots of moms are paying up 30 to 70 grand a year to put their kid in daycare center. Meanwhile, you don't see one single white person coming out of any of these daycares.
36:41Do you think this tax strike is going to spread? I don't know. We'll see. Do you want to see it spread? I think it'd be cool, but I think they might arrest people. I mean, if you mess up on your tax bill, they're going to put you in jail. Well, they can't arrest all of us. unfortunately for people like us you're gonna get arrested i'm gonna get arrested and anybody else with a microphone is gonna get arrested but yeah if i hope maybe it makes the government listen and tell tells the people like tells them okay we got to figure this out and i had a lot of respect for elon for and i understand why it was so hard for him to do what he was trying to do with doge because the fraudsters complain the loudest.
37:23Yeah, yeah. And, I mean, he tried to do America such a service by going and cutting out some of this fraud. And what'd they do to him? They burned down his businesses. They attacked him. And they tried everything possible to try to stop the man. Yeah, yeah, man. How much, what do you think is going to happen? Have you seen the Minnesota government do anything yet other than Tim Wallace? They're all very upset. Drop out of re-election. They're all very upset. There are some people inside of Minnesota. For instance, there is a fraud committee, and they've labeled out. They've made it very obvious.
38:01They have the charts of who's getting the money and everything like that. And with HHS freezing the money, all these businesses have the opportunity to prove they're legit. As of now, not a single business has submitted to prove that they're a legitimate business. If you had children to feed, how quick would you be submitting your form to get your money back? You'd be doing it immediately. How are the mainstream media outlets attacking you? What are they saying? What are they doing? You'll notice the first thing they say is, MAGA YouTuber, right-wing influencer, conservative. That's the first thing they do is put you in a bucket.
38:37Anything but journalist. They'll say quite literally anything. 23-year-old, like, okay, cool. I just did a better job than you at 23. but they'll try to say conservative, MAGA, Trump. It's like, no, I just showed you guys the facts. All the buzzwords. Yeah. It's actually pretty funny because I'm like, you guys are so stupid. You have the opportunity to maybe show people you're a little bit more legit. Yeah. Instead, you're taking the fraudulent data. Yeah, they're taking the debate. That's so awesome. They're going to die on that hill. I can't fucking wait. we got about maybe 20 years left before they're completely fucking dead yeah i i agree but well what else are they because i thought they were calling you racist all that kind of stuff too bust out the race card yes real original yes tim waltz has called me a white supremacist he's called me a delusional conspiracy theorist are you a white supremacist no are you sure i'm sure how do you know i just know okay i'm not a white supremacist all right i got black friends too right on me too so for them to say that it's just like it's ridiculous yeah they're trying to do everything they can for instance by calling me a magma influencer calling me a right-wing influencer calling me uh they say anti-immigration which yes i am anti-illegal immigration the word's illegal, anti-Islam.
40:11Then they call me a conspiracy theorist. They're trying to do everything. They call me a fascist. They're calling me Nazi. They're trying to do everything they can. So when the moment somebody tries to do something, it's justifiable for them. Man, you know, it's actually... I hate to say it like this, but it's actually kind of cool that they've gone through every derogatory... name that they can think of, and they've abused it so much that none of it holds any weight anymore. None of it. It really does. Nazi holds no weight. Racist holds no, nothing holds any weight because they've overused, they've over abused all of the buzzwords.
40:50They mean nothing now. Which also sucks because somebody that actually is a fucking racist, it's not going to carry the same weight because it's just like, it's just like the little boy that cried wolf story. Yes. Like you've done it so much that nobody fucking listens anymore. Somebody told me once, the moment somebody calls you a Nazi is the moment you can discredit them for whatever they're about to say next. Yeah. How can you call me a Nazi? It's a damn good point. It's a damn good point. That's just how misconstrued some of these people's minds have become. What would you like to see happen?
41:26One, accountability. And you'd like to see people be happy that you just showed fraud. Hmm. and you wouldn't want to see people out there defending it. Who else do you think needs to be held accountable other than Walsh? Walsh. There's got to be a lot more people. Oh, yeah, all the people inside DHS who are cutting the checks. The judge, for instance, that one judge who let the guy walk free of$7.2 million in Medicaid fraud. You'd like the Somalis to go out and say, okay, 89 % of the fraud being committed by us is, 89 % of the fraud being committed in Minnesota is by us Somalians. Let's talk. Let's figure out how to not commit so much fraud.
42:11And they'll even say it in my video in part two I have coming out. They're like, are we the only community that commits fraud?
42:20That's a great defense. Do you follow Nick Fuentes at all? Yeah. He just posted this. Fuentes posted, all of the complaining about Somalians will result in nothing. No mass arrests, no mass deportations, nothing transformative. We all know that. What do you think about what he's saying there? Part one, when you hear that, what do you think is actually happening? Do you think he actually has a point there? I think you're seeing the government. They've never done anything. that they've never launched a full investigation multiple investigations within just a few hours of a video being released so right now you have the trump administration has a lot of things on their hands right now they have venezuela they had the whole entire epstein screw up that looked really bad and you're having mass deportations and people they might not be deporting as many people as people would like i just drew them the biggest layup ever if they really wanted to go in and get everyone back on board, this is a great opportunity for them.
43:27So they better go and do it. I hope they do. I hope they do. You're 23 and you've watched how fast Jerome reporting could move online. Why is Fuentes able to gain traction with young audiences? And what does that tell you about how Gen Z decides who to trust now? Yeah, Nick Fuentes, he's extremely entertaining to watch. He's actually like a comedian when he talks. He's pretty funny. And you can't say he's not. If he wasn't, millions of people wouldn't be watching him. Now, do you agree with everything he says? No. Do you agree with everything Dave Chappelle says? No. Is there some truth that Nick Fontes is saying?
44:06Yes. What about you? I'm saying the truth. You've got millions and millions of people. I think the question is, you know, what is it about you guys that Gen Z is just going nuts over? Yeah. It's just raw, real, for you, in the weeds. It's just shit that nobody's doing anymore. Yeah. And growing up, you were very... It's hard to go out and say what you want because you're worried about people coming after you. And so when you have people like Nick Fuentes who are just saying things as he wants to say them, people are going to get attached to that. And for me, if I'm going out and showing people things for what they really are, and I'm not censoring people out of the conversation, people are going to like that because they want that realness because they want to feel represented.
44:56They don't want to feel like they're having one conversation with their friend in the car, and then they have to go out to the dinner table and have a different conversation. Do you think, do you think, I'm curious to hear, do you think Gen Z is as tribalized as the older generations or is Gen Z solely interested in just the truth? They're just so tired of all the bullshit from both sides. they're just interested in actual factual information not opinion pieces not any of that just facts and people with the courage to to put it out there i would say once they graduate high school and they realize how hard real life really is to make real money and to be able to get into a house and to be able to provide for yourself yes like they just want the truth cut and dry That's why you see so many of them kind of either feeling very defeated or people are actually rising up to the battle that we're facing.
45:55Because a lot of these kids are starting their life behind the starting line. They go to college, the bank will give them a$100 ,000 loan. They start their life off$100 ,000 in debt. And so a lot of people are wondering, well, why actually are we doing that? And that's why whether it be Nick Fuentes or whether it be Charlie Kirk, we're all kind of trying to share the same message at the end of the day that go chase the american dream because you're capable of doing it question yourself question the people you listen to like nick we all serve our own roles in this atmosphere of politics or just commentary your role is different than my role nick fuente's role is different than me and yours my role is to show people what's happening from the ground the news is to try and show people whatever they're trying to do.
46:45And then you have people like Charlie Kirk, who's going to talk to the kids at the colleges. You have people like Tucker Carlson and Kenneth Owens who are stirring up the pot. And then you have people on CNN. I don't even want to say their names because I don't even want to give them credit. But they're also stirring up the pot on that side. And there needs to be a way where we can all kind of come together in a common ground. And that's what Gen Z is kind of looking for, is just kind of to feel represented in a way where they have some hope. So you're saying they want to see the bickering stop and results start to happen?
47:19Yeah. I would say we just want to have the same opportunities that our parents or grandparents had. A lot of kids aren't getting married, myself included. I'm 23. I'm in no rush to get married. But a lot of people just feel like, wow, why would I get married when I can't even get into a house and I'll be suffering with my wife and living in some junky apartment? That's what it is, huh? Yeah. It's like you see the TikToks of... I love the TikToks of, like, the old America when you see just people out in the street with their family and their kids and the epic music, the American flags. And then I hate when I see the next...
48:00The next scene is when you're seeing just people strung out on fentanyl in the street corners and you're seeing people get in battles over race and religion. It's just like, that's not what this is all about. Yeah. Yeah. Nick, let's take a quick break. When we come back, let's dive into some of the other stuff you've uncovered. Listen up. 2026 is the year you finally launched that business you've been dreaming about. Don't let February arrive with the same old story. Taking action is the key. Let this be the year you become an entrepreneur or founder. One move puts your future in your hands. Starting a business with Shopify.
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52:03All right, Nick, we're back from the break. I got a correction to make. Apparently the media did cover this a little bit. You already said that, that some of the local media covered it but i guess the new york times also covered it early on but i've seen them be a lot more persistent with a variety of other topics you would think this one would be right at the top of the list but anyways so just had to correct myself there i hate putting out bad info but um we were talking about all the people that rallied around the video yes how fast did that happen? I posted the video, I go to the gym, and I get on X, and I didn't even have time to start posting clips, because everyone else had started posting clips of the video.
52:50I was like, oh, I got something here. Because to me, that was just a normal weekly upload. Because I've been doing a weekly upload every week for more than 104 weeks. And so I'm seeing the video go mega viral. I'm working out with my brother, and I'm like, wait, what's going on? I got to get back and post my video because I hadn't even posted on X yet. Oh, man. I was like, I have to go post it before somebody else does. So I hurry, go home, I post the video, and then within just a few hours, just boom, boom, million. And then Elon retweets it. And then JD retweets it. Not only do they retweet it, they then quote it.
53:26And then not only do they just retweet it, then they come back to the retweet and they interact with it. Wow. So you have the biggest account in the world, Elon Musk he's the biggest platform on X he's retweeting the video then he's also interacting with it He's saying prop. He's saying stuff like prosecute Tim Waltz You have JD Vance saying this dude has done more than all the other people who won the thing It's called like the Pulitzer Prize or something like that and then You just had a mega all these big accounts interacting with it, and then you just have the overall general American population.
54:01It's so funny because people are like, oh, is this an inside job? I'm like, no. It got shared by over 240 ,000 Americans also retweeted this video. 240 billion? 40 ,000. Shit. And so it's like when people say like, are you, that's insane numbers for X. And then over 600 and something thousand people watched it. or no 600 ,000 people liked it and it got over 135 million views wow wow most viewed that most viewed video by anyone whose name is not mr beast on a video over 10 minutes wow and for a damn good reason you know i've i've heard a lot of i've heard a lot of uh the internet trolls out there saying that there's a possibility that you're some type of an internet plant.
54:59What is this? What's that all about? Been uploading videos since I was 15 years old. Consistency and hard work. What's the rumor? Are you even aware of this? There's so much stuff, but I know people are like, oh, who's putting him in here? How's he getting this? How's he doing that? I'm like, I'm just outworking you guys. yeah like if you're if you've made a youtube video for a hundred weeks and you have big videos you have ones that don't do so well you're gonna hit eventually it's funny how everybody makes it seem like you just fell right into success isn't it yeah it was pretty funny so of course you you have to be a plant but uh but um well let's talk about some of the other stuff that you've done done a lot of stuff i know you have man let's let's start in california yeah so california it's probably like the worst managed state in america like the fraud's bad in minnesota but california could even be worse what'd you see over there i mean i you're out i mean it's like it's like you're everybody's eyes and ears you know and so i don't i don't i don't go to california i have no business there i have no reason to be there i don't want to be there But, you know, I see all the stuff on the news about people raiding, you know, raiding whatever, Target stores and all kinds of shit.
56:24The fentanyl crisis isn't as bad as the media makes it out to be. Yeah, California, it is as bad as the media makes it out to be. You have just inside of Beverly Hills alone, you have homeless people sleeping outside of mansions. literally within just a few blocks, you have homeless people setting up their own homes encampments in the street. You're walking across poop. Like this isn't an exaggeration. Like I've done it. I've done it. I've shown people what's happening. You obviously have skid row there. That's been a big issue for years, but then you have$24 billion that just went missing for the homeless that went unaccounted for.
57:02What? Have you not heard about that? No. Over$24 billion went uncounted for to fight homelessness. Are you saying million or billion with a B? Billion with a B. $24 billion went missing? She went missing.
57:19And meanwhile, Gavin Newsom is buying a$9 million mansion in the Bay Area. Did he really? Yes. I didn't know that. I gotta start putting some allegedly's out there so they can't come after me, but allegedly he bought a $9 million mansion. Shit. And so the corruption's bad there between the homelessness. I mean, the homeless people literally get handed to them the needles, the paraphernalia, the rubber bands. They even get handed out to them the crack pipes to do their drugs. And then they'll be like, okay, here's this. And then here's some Narcan in case you kill yourself. Oh, in Maine, they're handing out free boofing kits.
57:57Yeah. You know what a boofing kit is? Uh, no. What is a boofing kit? Oh man. I've been waiting for somebody to ask me this, because I didn't know what it was when Steve Robinson told me what a free boofing kit was. I said, what's a boofing kit? It sounds like some type of a balloon that you put the fentanyl in, and then you just shove it up your ass. What? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Dang. It's for when your veins are so fucked up that they can't take any more heroin or fentanyl. you just put it in this little capsule and shove it up their new effect dang yeah that fentanyl that fed you be hitting you haven't seen any boofing kits out in your adventures have you no i have not any of that stuff anybody putting up their bum that could oh that may be yeah so now there you go nick and now i'll be looking up you learned something today now you can go get no go to maine and get a free boofing kit to inject your fentanyl with.
58:56I hear Maine's an interesting place. It sounds like it, isn't it? It really does. I've been up there many times. Really? I think I need to go. It's actually a beautiful state. You should go check it out. I imagine it's much like Washington State. I've never, I've been there. Really? How would you see in Washington? Washington. What's your favorite place that you frequent, Nick? Oh, my favorite place? Well, I don't know, because I'm going to a lot of the belly, the beast places. Seattle's really bad. Really, really bad. Worse than Cali what's the worst what's the what's the one that you thought was like shit I know it was bad I didn't think it was this bad Kensington Philadelphia really let's go there what do you see in there you have entire you have this entire community and it is just actually zombies like the people are so hooked on the drugs that they could care less about what's going on and they're just slumped in the feti fold.
59:55It's the most tragic thing to see ever because you see all these people. You can go and have conversations with these people. A lot of them are really good people, nice people, but they just got hooked on fentanyl. How? How did they get hooked? What kind of conversations are you having with them? Yeah, so a lot of these people there got hooked on drugs when they got injured in an accident, and then they were maybe heroin addicts, and then they just tried fentanyl once and because fentanyl is 50 times more powerful than heroin by the time it's by the time they want to switch back to heroin because fentanyl is so powerful heroin doesn't do anything to them and so they end up just living out on the street looking for the next hit and what's interesting is people want to talk about oh how joe biden was like the border wasn't a big deal well people in trump's first term i talked to a man in san francisco who's on drugs he said when in trump's first office it costs about 15 for a fentanyl pill because there's multiple different ways to take fentanyl so for a blue it was 15 joe biden gets in the office they open up the borders it costs the addict only five dollars for it and so in places like kensington philadelphia where it's also a liberal city they just have enabled it to happen and meanwhile you have little kids getting off of the train having to walk through walk over dead bodies.
1:01:18Are you shitting me? Not a joke. And the little kids are like laughing about it. They're like, yeah, one time my friend came up and he just punched one of the guys. He had no idea what happened. And so like for these little kids to live in these communities, it's just like a part of it, which is sad. Like that should not be happening. That is sad as fuck, man. Yeah, it's actually sickening. And so... This is like the shit I saw overseas that I I've never wanted to. Wow. Yeah, America. It's that bad. Little kids are walking past dead bodies, kicking them and punching them, and joking about it. Like, it's a, it's, that means, that means this is an everyday.
1:02:02Watched a... It's every day. That's not these kids walked over that one day. This is every day. Every day. Watched a little kid in San Francisco walk over a dead body with his mom, and his mom's grabbing him, the little kid's freaking out. Meanwhile, the guy's passed out, overdosed on fentanyl. The addicts are around him like, what do we do? What are you doing? What are you doing? What do we do? And then I'm having to run over to go get a person to try to give him Narcan, and all the addicts are freaking out, not knowing what to do, and their friends dying on the ground. And that happens every single day in every major city in America, and whether it's San Francisco or Kensington, Philadelphia, that shouldn't be happening.
1:02:46Did you save that guy? No, you couldn't. I mean, I ran over, grabbed the guy, and he did give him Narcan, and by that time, all the addicts had pushed me out because I had my camera and they were so angry at me for having my camera that I didn't get to see what happened to the guy. Damn, man. But so, like, I had to run over and get the guy to give him the Narcan. And then the addicts, they're so delusional in their brain because all they're thinking about is the next hit that they ended up moving me out of the area and then I don't know what happened to the guy. Are they threatening you? I mean...
1:03:25They're so out of it, they're just yelling and stuff. Like these addicts, like you used to think like homeless people when you're younger, like... Actually, homeless people when I was younger, it was like, oh my gosh, like let's help this guy. I remember giving him$10 when we'd leave the Jazz Stadium after going to the basketball game and giving the homeless guy$10 and you'd wish him a good night. But now they're, these guys are just on fentanyl, just slumped, moving back and forth. And they don't even care what happens. I mean, when you're talking about all of the rest of the addicts, you know, we're up in arms about this guy getting ready to overdose and die.
1:04:01I mean, how many addicts are we talking here? Probably 10 of them all around them. Because they all just get in this little circle. And there's multiple ways to do fentanyl, whether they're taking the blue or if they're lighting it on foil and just smoking the fumes. They're all just right next to each other.
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1:06:18How do you strike a conversation with them? Usually they're pretty nice. They're not really looking for anything. They're just sitting there doing their drugs, and you just go up and say, hi, how are you doing? We were wondering if we could just ask you a few questions. What got you into this, and how long have you been out here for? And usually they're pretty happy to tell somebody their story. Because I try not to pay people for interviews. A lot of people walk around with$5 bills, and I don't like doing that. If someone's going to talk to me, they'll talk to me. And if I have to pay them, then the interaction's not the same.
1:06:53So I always try not to pay people. What else are you learning from these people? just the fact that there's somebody else's son daughter and you do see like i i think there's potential in these people if you could get them off the drugs a lot of these people don't have any potential left in them because i know there's potential my best friend fucking got killed by that shit he was a navy seal and then contracted with the cia with me one of the brightest brightest people i've ever met in my life yeah there's so many people like it and that's why i get so mad when I see these politicians getting so mad at Trump for trying to do something about it or for killing a narco boat.
1:07:33I don't care if they killed that narco boat because American people are dying. I've seen it with my own eyes. And that's also why I don't respect the left-wing media at all. Whether it be the TikTokers, YouTubers, they never leave their desk. All they are is just talking points. Meanwhile, I'm going out there, and because I'm going out there, they label me as a MAGA or conservative. No, I'm talking to the person strung out on fentanyl. I'm talking to the protester. I'm talking to the president. Do you consider yourself to be MAGA? Yeah, I support Donald Trump. I think right now you kind of have the, you have to decide, all right, maybe if you don't 100 % agree with Trump, and when I say I'm talking to Trump, I'm saying like with my briefing I gave to him, I've never talked to him behind closed doors or anything like that.
1:08:23But yeah, I support Trump because I think what he's doing, he doesn't really have, there's not really a reason why not to support him if you believe in what he's trying to do for America. And the opposite would have been Kamala Harris. And so you have to kind of pick and choose your battles with Trump. Did he totally mess up on the Epstein stuff? Yes. Is that something that's hard to look past? Yeah. Is there probably something weird going on there? Yeah. but is there big issues with drugs inside the United States, with illegal immigration, affordability? Why are other countries tariffing us and we can't tariff them back?
1:09:02I think you just have to pick your battles, and if you want to succeed, you have to at least be supportive of somebody and also be critical at the same time. Yeah, I'm with you. I think people need to really align themselves with the values and not with the individual. That's what it should be. It should be, I agree and I align with this initiative, not who's putting this initiative out. Well, then I can't fucking support it. Yeah, it's actually crazy, because just think about what happened with Maduro. Biden actually had a$25 million bounty out for Maduro. Did he really? Yes, Biden and Kamala did.
1:09:44No shit. They put out a 25 bounty during Biden's presidency. And so then Trump goes in. So far, no casualties have been said that we know about. He goes and captures Maduro. And then the left comes out advocating for Maduro. Like, what are they doing? And meanwhile, Venezuelans are celebrating all across the world because they've finally been liberated. Over 7 million people left Venezuela because of Maduro. It was the largest exodus of a group of people in... Since California. Since California. In New York. Yeah. And so I just can't side with anything the left's doing right now. Like, I can't side with any of the leaders.
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1:11:30Been to El Salvador. How was that? Very cool. I'm the first ever American to do it. Were you really? Yeah. Damn, Nick. It's crazy. Fucking killing it, man. I don't even know how I got that opportunity. How did you get your way into there? I went to El Salvador because I was doing videos on illegal immigration and I was trying to join a caravan to go up and go from middle Central America up to Mexico. And I was looking at the map and I thought, oh, they have to pass through El Salvador. And I get to El Salvador and I'm like, okay, where are the migrants at? I'm trying to join a caravan. I'm talking to locals because I speak fluent Spanish.
1:12:10and they're like, oh, we don't have migrants here. I'm like, what do you guys mean? This is like perfect spot for the map for them to cross over. They're like, no, we don't have them here. We're not migrants until we get to your country, Ned. Yeah. I was like, what's going on? And they're like, wait, they're like, we actually have people coming back from America. I'm like, what's going on? And then everyone starts telling me about Naive Ukele and about Secaut. And so I get there, my whole entire video had to shift and I make a video about how this country has kind of solved illegal migration and I ended up interviewing one of the mayors and from there I just kept being super persistent about messaging any account I could possibly get my hands onto on X that had anything to do with the government if I could just find somebody to give me that contact to then message to go and decide that cop and I eventually just some random person said uh this is the number of the secretary and I messaged the press secretary of El Salvador and she said oh oh, no, not right now.
1:13:06Messaged me again in a month. Messaged her again. She says, oh, not right now. Messaged me again in a little bit. And I finally messaged her like six months later, and she's like, all right, here's your date to come inside Psychot. We'll see you there. Boom. That was my big break. Nice. How was it in there? Crazy. What'd you learn? The people advocating for those people who need to really question who they're advocating for. But the moment you walk in there, you just feel like any sense of goodness in your body just leave and your body is just filled with emptiness and then you look at the prisoners in their eyes they're completely empty they're hopeless whatever wasn't possessed whatever had possessed them had taken control and they had been defeated and they just look at you with this blank stare of just like nothingness like you look into their eyes and nothing you start walking around there and you just feel like literally nothing and then you look at their tattoos they have they're just from top to top to bottom just full of ms13 barrio dc ocho and then actually they're like no nick you can't interview anybody i was originally set to interview one of the prisoners and then they're We're running behind time and we can't interview them, but we're going to ask the guys to take off their shirts so you can see all their tattoos.
1:14:38And so I get pretty close to almost face-to-face with one of these guys. I'm like, are you still proud to be a gangster? He's like, yeah. I was like, wow, we really... And then other guys in the back were just like, we messed up. But some of those people killed hundreds of people. And it's just very eerie. There's no lights. very eerie to look at those guys in the eyes and those guys they have no darkness it's always lit up in that room it's just like a Costco essentially with prison cells and the lights down 24 7 they eat the same meal every single day they get no protein like they would get no meat like no pork or chicken all they get is a tortilla rice and beans I think they get like yogurt or milk and And each and then, so these guys are just like hopeless.
1:15:37They got no books. All they can do for a workout is once a day they get to take them out. They go do their toe touches, push-ups, sit-ups, and they're all in white. And then they either get to do that or they get to listen to some preacher inside of that prison. But those guys deserved it. They killed and made it so families couldn't go from street to street to go visit their other family members. so that was very interesting to see that and it was very cool to see how then you leave there you leave there then you go out to the streets of el salvador and people are just so excited to be living normal lives because for years they couldn't they couldn't go out and go to the next neighborhood they couldn't go out and hang out at their neighborhood so it's like the first time you've seen this group of people a lot of these people in years that they've never had that feeling of freedom.
1:16:29Wow. Very cool. That is really cool, man. How about Paris? Paris? What did you see in Paris? Well, Paris, I got attacked by scammers. The scammers there are rampant. I mean, I wasn't expecting too much of Paris. All of Europe's kind of messed up right now, just due to the facts of mass migration, and they're just very leftist there. So Paris, I wasn't expecting too much, but I didn't expect it as soon as I got off the subway just to see a bunch of scammers running down into the subway. It was kind of wild. What was it? All these African migrants from Senegal and from East Africa, they go to Paris and they start selling these Eiffel Towers.
1:17:15And it's just this big scam. They're all working together on this. And you show a camera there, they freak out. and I was I brought my mom with me on this one too and it's so funny because I brought my mom and I have her like kind of like acting as like the bait to go talk to some of these scammers and uh the African scammers they got just so mad when I was just filming and the guys came up to me and these guys are big they're like six foot they got big muscles I'm like getting them off moving around like nope nope get over here get away and then you also have the gypsies who are trying to get money from donations.
1:17:52And while they're trying to get money from donations, they got somebody who's trying to pickpocket you. And this is at the Eiffel Tower, one of the largest tourist destinations in the entire world. And they've just let it get controlled by scammers, overtaken by scammers. Man. By foreign scammers that aren't even French. What did you go there for? To do a video on immigration inside of France to see what was going on because people kept telling me it was bad. And it was bad. I mean, the scammers, one, they had taken over there, and an entire, I think they call it districts in Paris, where completely Paris people had been pushed out.
1:18:30The French people had been pushed out. Did you talk to anybody over there? Yeah, I did. What were they saying? They're mad too, because they're like, us French, we can't even get houses here in Paris. But they put the migrants in the houses here in Paris. And how can anybody say this is good for us? So it's just, and then you're up, you go to - Is there anybody that's on the opposite though? Is there anybody that is like, yeah, we want this. We want all these people here. Yes. There is. Yes. Okay. In my video, I speak with, I go, I meet up with this guy. He's kind of like a local journalist in the area.
1:19:05He kind of takes me around. And then it's always the white liberals who are sympathetic to this mass migration. They're sympathetic to criminals. And I'm talking to this girl who's in a college probably. and we're right next to this migrant camp where all these migrants are just living underneath of the highway. And I say, do you think it's good to bring masks? Do you think illegal immigration's good? Something along the lines of that. She goes, yeah, we're all migrants in our own way. I'm like, so this is good? She's like, yes. And meanwhile, this is all happening. And illegal migration, it's one of the most inhumane things, not only for the people who are originally from that country, but from the migrants they bring over.
1:19:49A lot of these people get trafficked over. A lot of them get assaulted. A lot of them lose all their money. A lot of them never see their family again. Yet these politicians want to keep walking them in. In fact, the EU is fining countries like Poland and Hungary for not accepting migrants. So it's all this coordinated attack on Western civilization. What would you say the percentage of people that are pro-migrant versus anti are in France? I think it's getting probably more towards 50-50. Because people originally, just like in Minnesota, people were acceptance of the refugees, they're happy to take in Somalians from the war-torn country, but then they start imposing their cultures, they start taking away what was once the life of the people from that area, and they don't feel like it's their town anymore.
1:20:46They don't feel like they're the ones being represented.
1:20:51So, people are waking up. That's why you also saw three million people go out to the streets of London to stop mass migration. You gonna head over there? Did you go there? Yeah. You were there? Yeah, I was there for that. how was that it was awesome it was awesome what are those people saying they're they want their country back how are they going to get it back i don't know you know what's interesting about uk is i just don't see anybody speaking up about anything except our buddy jay cowl yeah well they imprison them what's that they imprison them like tommy robinson that's why i'm asking you you How are they going to do anything?
1:21:35Yeah, because they're throwing people in jail for tweets. Every day, more than 10 people are getting put in jail for putting tweets out, putting posts on X. And they've tried to imprison Tommy Robinson multiple times. And you might not like Tommy Robinson. You might not have a perfect past. But man, that guy knows what he's talking about. When he saw his siblings and his family members getting raped by Muslim grooming gangs and he spoke out against it and the government tried to hide it, It's the exact same thing we just saw in Minnesota. They're too afraid to be called racists and Islamophobes for the fraud that was happening.
1:22:10Yeah. And then they try to go and imprison Tommy Robinson, not just once, but they've done it multiple times. They put him in solitary confinement for more than 100 days for speaking about, for showing people what was happening inside his country. Man. And I know why it's happening. Why is it happening? Just for purely votes and to keep people in power. And it's also, I kind of knew what was going to, I kind of knew this was going to happen in the United States after I'd gone to Europe a couple of times to do videos on what was happening. Because Tommy Robinson, I had a sit-down interview with him.
1:22:41He goes, the reason why the Labour Party, the Democrat Party in the UK, the reason why they're able to stay in power is because they'll tell these Muslims they can go ahead, do whatever they want. a Muslim actually should be more conservative than they would be a liberal because they don't stand for a lot of that progressive stuff. Not pro-LGBTQ +, they're pro-family, right? And so he goes, well, it doesn't matter to them because they have Sharia law. So that's above anything. And so if somebody goes to that mosque where a thousand people go, they tell the mosque leader, we're going to let you guys do whatever you want.
1:23:22Just make sure you guys vote for us. So then when it comes day to vote, the leader of the mosque, everyone in the mosque will then go to the voting centers and go vote for that candidate. That's why in London, the mayor is Muslim. A lot of the towns around it are Muslim as well. And they actually have courts that are practicing Sharia law. And so I kind of knew that was going to happen inside of America as well. You have Mandami, for instance. Another thing Mandami advocated for when he was running was making child care more affordable. What do we know about child care now? These daycare centers, they're complete frauds.
1:23:59And so I kind of knew what was going to start happening. Now you're kind of starting to see it happen here in America. And now after they kind of forced my hand to start giving my opinion, which I wasn't doing, they asked for it. People are loving it now that I'm kind of speaking out against stuff. But I was originally just going to keep asking people questions, but now they've kind of turned my journalism into activism in a way where you forced my hand. Now I'm compelled to do this now. Be careful. Don't let them force you into something that you think they don't want you to do. Like what? Like what you're doing.
1:24:37Yeah. Well? They'd rather have an activist than a competitor. I can tell you that much right now. Well, I don't think sharing facts is wrong. I don't either. I think what you're doing is amazing. I'm just telling you be careful yeah I mean they will manipulate in you into doing something that you think they don't want you to do you do it to piss them off and then they fucking have you where you want they want you yeah what I'm saying I do need to be a little bit more careful and it kind of stinks I'm only 23 years old like dang I got a lot more life to live I got like at least three more of my life to live well think about how much more wisdom you'll have when you're my age because you started at 23.
1:25:19Yeah, very true. So, but what do you got coming up next, Nick? Got a lot more stuff coming. I got something for you. Or what? Bad answer, my bad. Very early, very early on this. But I've been hearing a lot of grumblings that a lot of these Dominion voting machines and the election fraud is coming from Venezuela. Have you heard this? i'm gonna send you some stuff maybe you can dig in i'm getting ready to dive in on that i think and um could be a huge huge story really i don't know if it's legit i've just been hearing grumblings so we're just i would like to go to venezuela would you oh yeah maybe we'll go together do you want to go i'm gonna i'm down i might i don't know how we do it now but i think it'd be a great video the venezuelan people are very like they're very good people Like, some of the best people I've met, because I did, like, this two-year mission trip for our church, a lot of people I'd spend my time with were migrants from Venezuela, and they were just, like, some of the nicest people I'd ever met.
1:26:25Really? Yeah, I'd spend, I remember I had spent time with this one family, and when I left, the whole entire family was just bawling, because I just spent so much time with them, and, like, I called them once they captured Maduro, and they're all crying, they're all, like, celebrating. And meanwhile, you have liberals in the street calling for Trump to, for him to release Maduro. Oh, man. You guys realize what he just did to that entire country, Maduro? You have people out at the border selling bags of Venezuelan dollars because they mean absolutely nothing. They're using their dollars for product, for material.
1:27:04We're living in a crazy world, Sean. Just think about everything we got going on. We have Trump's our president. He is a character. He's an icon. in a lot of ways as far as like being the billionaire that he is, having all his properties. He has a freaking castle to go to on the weekends, Mar-a-Lago. He's good buddies with the richest man in the world, Elon Musk. Elon Musk gave us free speech again on the internet. What I just did would not have been possible without Elon Musk. The video would have done well on YouTube. It would have got a million views. It wouldn't have created any change though.
1:27:42But if it wasn't for X, you wouldn't have seen any of that. I went freaking into combat with this Tim Walz on X. Man, you really crushed it. Yeah, I had no other option. You crushed it. Yeah, it was crazy. Everyone was just coming after me, and I'd never gotten into any internet beef with anybody. They keep coming after me. Well, I guess I'm going to come back with you. You got to fight fire with fire. I finally understood why people like Trump and Elon always are out there talking and defending themselves because you just can't let someone slander your name for no reason. That's right. Especially if you're on the right.
1:28:24Just like you and your boy Crenshaw. Hey. Can't let people fucking push you around in this world. No. Or they will just continue doing it. So good for you for standing up for yourself. Exactly. Way to fucking be, man. All right, Nick. If you had three people to recommend for this show, who would they be? Three people? I would love to see Naebu Kelly. That's somebody I want to personally interview as well. I'm really interested in, like, leaders of the world. I think Naebu Kelly would be really cool. Gotta think. Have you done John Fetterman? Mm-mm. I think he'd be interesting to talk to. All right.
1:29:05Because I think he's, like, one of the only Democrats who, like, has common sense right now. I think he'd be good. I don't know anything about George Bush, and I've never seen him do anything. I think that'd be interesting. That would be really interesting. I got a lot of questions for him. Yeah, I'm sure with your past, you have a lot of questions with him. Oh, yeah. I've never seen him do any interview. Like, my generation knows absolutely nothing about George Bush other than 9-11. So I think that'd be an interesting conversation. We've actually been kicking that around, So maybe we will pursue that.
1:29:44But, well, Nick, hope to see you again. Thanks again for the sweatshirt. And let's go blow some shit up. Yes, I'm excited. Thank you. Sure.
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Nick Shirley is an American independent journalist, YouTuber, and content creator known for on-the-ground investigative videos and street interviews. Starting with prank and shock content as a teenager, including a 2019 video about flying to New York without parental permission at age 16, Shirley transitioned to political and cultural commentary, gaining prominence for covering protests, immigration issues, and government accountability.
A former high school student from Utah who served a two-year LDS mission in Santiago, Chile, he has amassed over 1 million YouTube subscribers and hundreds of millions of views across platforms. In December 2025, his viral video investigating alleged fraud in Minnesota's government-funded childcare programs—claiming over $100 million in misused funds—garnered more than 100 million views on Xl, prompting renewed scrutiny and FBI comments.
Shirley participated in a White House roundtable on antifa in October 2025 and advocates for transparency in government spending, immigration enforcement, and exposing perceived corruption, often aligning with conservative viewpoints while conducting direct, minimalist on-location reporting.
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X - https://x.com/nickshirleyy
Podcast - https://open.spotify.com/show/4fm9G0i6lyDZ3XE5fz3Lb9
Hoodie - https://shirleydefense.com/collections/all
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