#284 Schlep - EVERY Parent Needs to Watch This

15:15Shawn Ryan:And what do those spaces all have in common? Let's leave Roblox out of this one. We know Roblox is one. Give us some stuff that people don't know.

15:25Michael Schlep:Discord. If your kid is on Discord, take them off immediately. That, in my opinion, is one of the most unsafe platforms I've ever seen. I mean, I was groomed on Discord as a kid. Most girls that I know that have used Discord when they were growing up, they were victimized on the platform. I would call that the modern-day version of Kik, which was, you know, back in the early-ish 2010s. It was a very popular chat messaging app that groomed or had tons of kids that got victimized on it. That is one of the worst apps I've seen, and they've gone out of their way to protect predators. That was what blew my mind.

16:12Michael Schlep:I'll talk a little bit about this later, but... What's Kik? Kik is a... That was an app, a chat messaging app. I mean, there were so many cases related to kids being groomed and victimized. It was a chat mess... Like, you could have group chats, and then you can move those group chats to private messaging. And it was really bad. I mean, that was a go-to for a lot of predators. I mean, I know people in my real life, just unrelated to, you know, the work I do, they were victimized on Kik.

16:44Shawn Ryan:So, Kik, VRChat, Discord.

16:47Michael Schlep:Yeah, and Snapchat. That's all. Snapchat. Snapchat initially was made to... From what I know, it was an app created to get nudes from people. It was to exchange nudes. That was the reason why it was created. And I mean, that app is involved in so many cases related to grooming. I mean, there's absolutely no reason a child should be using Snapchat. I mean, it is private messaging, you know, where you can't view it as a parent. So, yeah, that's a really horrible one. I've heard so many cases related to that. And there's also some other encrypted apps like Telegram that sometimes.

17:31Shawn Ryan:Oh, yeah. I was more talking about stuff that's specifically made for kids. For kids, yeah. I don't know, Candyland.

17:41Michael Schlep:Yeah.

17:42Shawn Ryan:You know?

17:43Michael Schlep:I mean, just social media sites, I mean, there's so many problems with them as a whole, but I'd say right now, gaming stuff, it would really be Roblox, VRChat, and Discord. Discord is really bad. And if your kid is on them, just take them off outright. Yeah. That's how I would describe that.

18:06Shawn Ryan:You know, before we get into this interview, I just want to, I just want to, we're going to talk about this, but I want, this is more for the audience, especially for parents and kids who are concerned about this. But, you know, we've uncovered so many things on the show here. You know, it kind of all started with Ryan Montgomery, you know, and talking about the 764 cult. And now we're talking about roadblocks. And I just dug into CannaCook, which we were chatting about at breakfast and the thousands of kids that, you know, according to Elizabeth Phillips have been molested there and they put them under NDA after they reach a settlement so they can never talk about them again.

18:48Shawn Ryan:But, you know, and time and time again, you know, the audience and everybody who's aware of what's going on, when these things start to get traction, it becomes this, you know, tear down the institution. And they're not wrong. I'm totally about that. Fucking A, tear it down. Like, if these people are going to cover for pedophiles, then it needs to be torn down immediately. But I think that, you know, but that doesn't necessarily constitute a win. And so what people need to understand is, I mean, you believe in good and evil, I'm sure.

19:25Michael Schlep:Absolutely.

19:26Shawn Ryan:And I believe in good and evil. And us as human beings, we're never going to destroy evil. It's just going to flow into the next thing. And so, and that is the same with predators. A lot of these people, nobody knows, I mean, nobody knows they're a predator. They don't have a rap sheet. They've never been arrested. There's no evidence of them having that, being a predator.

19:55Michael Schlep:Yeah.

19:55Shawn Ryan:You know, being attracted to kids. And so, you have to kind of put your mind into the mind of how they would think, and how would they think? Well, I want an occupation that I can also explore my fantasy in. You know what I mean? Undetected. And so they're going to become teachers. They're going to become camp counselors. They're going to start teaching swimming lessons. They're going to be at band. They're going to teach ballet, gymnastics, jujitsu, karate, soccer. This is what they do because that's their passion is exploiting and abusing kids. and so they their whole life is you see what I'm saying yeah and so yeah great we took down we took down an institution cool we didn't get everybody inside of that institution and so those people are just going to flow into the next thing they're going to they're going to become your your kid's soccer coach and so yes should we be taking down the institutions yes But the parents and kids and guardians, what they really need to be thinking about is these people are everywhere.

21:17Shawn Ryan:They're amongst us. They could be your family members. Of course, nobody wants to think that they're... But they could be, you know what I mean? I don't know the percentage, but the majority of sexual abuse that happens is from a family member or friend or family friend. And so these are people that you trust. These are people that you've been around, that are around you on a daily basis. And so the point I'm trying to make is you need to educate your kids. You need to have the discussions with them on what's appropriate, what's not appropriate, what needs to happen if something happens. Because I don't think enough people are having these discussions.

21:54These discussions started at my house when I was changing diapers.

22:01Shawn Ryan:Nobody touches that, buddy. anybody touches that you tell mom or dad immediately babysitter anybody anybody nobody nobody has to see it nobody touches it that's yours and yours only you know and you have to ingrain that into your kids head so that if something happens because it's it's this is

22:21Michael Schlep:getting bigger and bigger and bigger absolutely and uh and and and it's been like this for a long time because I've had so many people on the show who, I mean, this show started with special

22:35Shawn Ryan:operations backgrounds and life stories. And I started noticing right off the bat how many adults have been abused as a child. And it's, I'll bet it's 50 % of the people that have been on here or more. Those are just the ones that have told me that. A lot of them are actually in the interview. And so I just wanted to put that out to parents. Like, that's great. We're taking the institutions that are doing this shit down, the ones that aren't protecting kids. Like, that's great. It needs to happen. But the ones that haven't been caught, they're just going to go to the next place.

23:13Michael Schlep:Absolutely.

23:14Shawn Ryan:And they're invisible until they have a record.

23:17Michael Schlep:Yeah. I'd go one step further. I think really parents, they need to build a connection with their kid where, because a lot of kids now in this day and age, something will happen to them. Like they'll send a photo they shouldn't have and a predator will try to sex toward them. And parents should be the person that this kid goes to. They should feel comfortable. They should be able to actually be like, hey, I did this, I know I screwed up. But they shouldn't view it as like, my life is over. It shouldn't be a punishment thing, in a sense. They should be able to go to you, because what happens a lot, and I've seen this so much, kids are afraid to tell their parents anything, because they think they're going to get punished.

24:05Michael Schlep:They think all their devices are going to get taken. And I do think it's some aspects that is kind of warranted, but it will make your kid not want to say anything. And what ends up happening with, like, is a lot of kids, they take their own lives. And it's so tragic. Uh, it is... I really, the conversation that needs to be had is, like, if someone says something or does something to you online, you should tell me, and we will go get this guy together. You know, we will go to the police station, we'll make sure this guy can't hurt anyone else. Shouldn't be, if someone messages you bad, you're never chatting on the internet again.

24:47Michael Schlep:Yeah. That's...

24:49Shawn Ryan:I love what you're saying there, And I actually do this with my kids who are toddlers, you know, but you have to build the trust with your kids, you know. And so what I mean by that is, for example, a couple weeks ago, my four-year-old broke, I don't know, something that had sentimental value. It was like a vase or something. It had sentimental value to the family. and he i i saw him do it and i was hoping you know i wanted to see how he reacted he hid it from me or if he if he took ownership and and and immediately comes over freaked out thinks he's in deep shit you know and he's like i'm sorry i broke and and instead of being all pissed off because he broke some stupid vase that meant something to the family i'm like hey good job I rewarded him and told him what a good job he did by taking ownership of his mistake.

25:51Shawn Ryan:And so the next time he does something like that, he's hopefully gonna rely on past experience and go, I need to tell my dad that I fucked up. And he's gonna help me fix it. And that's the relationship that I think that people need to be building with their kids, It's not reprimanding them and punishing them every single time. I mean, yes, punishment is... You get what I'm... I think you get what I'm saying.

26:19Michael Schlep:Yeah, yeah, for sure. Absolutely. I think another thing, too, is education is definitely so warranted with kids. I mean, they need to know that there's bad people out there that are trying to take advantage of them. And I mean, the grooming that these predators do is so calculated. I mean, they have actual textbooks of hundreds of pages. How they groom kids is so systematic. And they need to understand that there are people out there that want to hurt them, that literally want to... for them to kill themselves on a webcam. Like, that's... I can't even comprehend saying that myself, because it's like, when I was a kid growing up on the internet, there was some stuff, but it was never like, what, 764 or any of these, you know, calm communities are now.

27:10Michael Schlep:And it's really scary. And that conversation could literally save your child's life. I mean, that's how I view it, at least.

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28:54Shawn Ryan:Well, Schleb, let's get into the Let's get into the data of the interview here. So I'm going to start off with an introduction here. Schlepp, a 22-year-old YouTuber and content creator known for exposing child predators on Roblox through Sing operations and decoy accounts. A Roblox grooming survivor yourself, you're targeted and exploited as a young teen by a prominent Roblox developer. founder of a channel that has led to multiple arrests of alleged predators who used roblox to groom minors permanently banned from roblox in august of 2025 along with a cease and desist letter threatening legal action you continue predator catching work off platform collaborating with law enforcement to secure convictions yep you're a hell of a guy and you know i I want to say that I've offered the seat.

29:53Shawn Ryan:I told you on the way here. Roblox Communications has been in touch with us. I left a comment on your ex. Somehow they found out you were coming and got in touch with us. And so we've been in communication with them. Not me personally. I didn't want any comms with them until after our interview. But I did offer the CEO of Roblox a spot on the show to tell everybody what they're doing to improve child safety on their platform. One thing that scares me about doing that is, I was just talking to Jeremy about this upstairs, is I'm scared to bring him on because I don't want people to not watch that episode and then think, oh, Sean had the CEO Roblox on.

30:49Shawn Ryan:It must be safe because heaven forbid if a fucking parent doesn't watch that episode and just sees that I had him on and I think everything's okay. And then their kid goes on there and gets exploited or worse by that 764 group. That's on me. And that's something that I want to live with. But anyways, let's start with your backstory. Where'd you grow up?

31:23Michael Schlep:I grew up in Southern California. I have two loving parents. I had a sister. She's awesome. And I was raised a pretty middle-class life. Both my parents worked. and really, as a kid, I liked gaming. I played Minecraft a lot, but Roblox was just something that instantly grabbed my attention. I was at a friend's house.

31:57Shawn Ryan:How old were you when you started gaming?

32:00Michael Schlep:Oh, I don't even know. I mean, I was gaming very, very young. I mean, my dad had a PlayStation, and I would literally just hop on racing games and stuff like that. So gaming has always kind of been something that I had been involved with ever since I was very, very little. I don't even know how old I was.

32:16Shawn Ryan:So as far as you can remember, you've been...

32:18Michael Schlep:As far as I can remember, I've been playing video games. And yeah, I went over to a friend's house and his cousin was over and he was playing this game. And me and my friend were just instantly like, whoa, like, because we love Legos. We would build Lego stuff, and this was Lego the video game, the most ultimate one where you could do anything, be anything. And we were just hooked. I mean, we played all these games. We would come home from school every day, and we would play these awesome war games on Roblox. We would build stuff. I mean, it was really a lot of fun, and I had a lot of good childhood memories on the game.

33:04Michael Schlep:But then in 2015, I caught... I think it was MRSA was what I caught. Yeah, I caught that. You see right here, this is a... I have a scar from my surgery.

33:19Shawn Ryan:Some serious shit.

33:21Michael Schlep:Yeah, I was in the hospital for over a month because of it. I had a reaction to the medication they gave me. I had, I think, two surgeries. It was pretty scary. I was placed in the ICU for a while, and I was put on all these insane medications, and I had a lot of time where I couldn't go to school. So that was where I really started getting into Roblox a lot. And before that, I was kind of learning scripting a little bit, which is Lua, which was the programming language of Roblox, and just like, you know, building games so I can play with my friends. But I had a lot of free time.

34:05Shawn Ryan:How long has Roblox been around?

34:07Michael Schlep:2006.

34:08Shawn Ryan:It's been around since 06?

34:10Michael Schlep:Yeah, but it was a totally different platform between then and now. I mean, it doesn't even look recognizable. But yeah, I got involved really into Roblox because I got sick and I went to these conferences Roblox did around the United States. It wasn't conference. They set up booths at STEM events to show that Roblox was like an educational platform, and I helped them do that. I mean, some of the promotional footage that was used for that. But yeah, I was really into Roblox as a kid, and I had a lot of time because I was in the hospital.

34:58Michael Schlep:And when I got out of the hospital, I couldn't go back to normal school because I was feeling so ill from all the medication I was on. So I had a lot of time online. And that was where I met a game developer who at the time, he made my favorite game online. It was like a little mini game sort of thing. It was really cool. and we started communicating and I had talked to this guy for multiple years.

35:31Shawn Ryan:How did you meet this guy?

35:32Michael Schlep:It was on a Discord server owned by Roblox employees.

35:37Shawn Ryan:How old were you at the time?

35:39Michael Schlep:I want to say I was 12.

35:41Shawn Ryan:How old was this guy?

35:43Michael Schlep:He was, I believe, 19 turning 20. So he was a lot older than me. Yeah, I met him on a Discord server that was owned by employees at Roblox. It was called the Roblox Discord. So, I mean, you know, it wasn't, I guess, official in the capacity of, you know, Roblox was advertising on all their social medias, but it was owned and operated by employees at the company. And I met my abuser on there. And it started out innocent where he let me moderate for his community, which is a common thing you'll see with these predators, specifically Roblox. They'll give them people, like kids' roles and stuff so that they feel like, whoa, like, oh my gosh, this is a cool...

36:35Michael Schlep:As a kid, getting to moderate the coolest game you love on the site, it blew my world. I was like, oh my gosh. and I started noticing he would have these inappropriate conversations with me and I... Like what? He would talk about like masturbation and stuff like that. Like with a 12-year-old kid.

37:00Shawn Ryan:How does he bring that up to a 12-year-old?

37:03Michael Schlep:I remember one instance, he was in a call with another girl and I believe this girl was either 15 or 16 at the time. I'm like, what are you guys doing? and he's like, oh, we're like masturbating and calls together and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, ew, that's gross. And then he was trying to explain to me how that was a good thing and like...

37:21Shawn Ryan:How would he say it's a good thing?

37:23Michael Schlep:Normal thing. Maybe that's the right way to put it. That's how he was trying to... He was trying to normalize that sort of like weird, gross, degenerate behavior to me. But it progressively got worse. I noticed he started having this obsession, or he probably always did, but he started showing it more and more with mass shooters.

37:44Shawn Ryan:I want you to be just a little bit more descriptive, if you can.

37:49Michael Schlep:And here's why.

37:51Shawn Ryan:Because a lot of parents are watching this. And a lot of parents are then going to watch this with their kids. And a lot of kids are going to watch this. And so when you talk about the progression of how it happened, if they hear how it happened, then they'll be able to recognize when it's happening to them.

38:10Michael Schlep:Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like, the conversations, they started out normal. They went on normal for a while, but as time progressed, he began getting more and more, like, just open with how he would communicate with me. Like, he would talk more graphic, like, he would talk about, like, and, like, and stuff like that with me. and I didn't recognize the behavioral difference in that, because, I mean, I was a kid. Nobody had ever talked to me like that.

38:43Shawn Ryan:Mm-hmm. How did that make you feel?

38:46Michael Schlep:Very uncomfortable. Very, very uncomfortable. I remember saying that in messages. And the first relationship he was in, I couldn't recognize, like, what a predator was. I never even knew what a predator was at this time. I mean, the most I had seen was, like, Chris Hansen to catch a predator, but I thought it was a prank show. I didn't think it was actual... I couldn't understand it. And I remember there was one conversation he had with me, because he was in a relationship he clearly shouldn't have been with this girl, where he said, hey, is this relationship between a 15-year-old and a 19-year-old?

39:25Michael Schlep:I believe that's what he said. Is that okay? And I was like, oh, yeah, my parents have a larger age gap than that. You know, my parents, they met when my mom was 30, you know? So, I, uh... I couldn't recognize that stuff. But that stuff, if, like, I had known a little more, like, maybe I could've, like...

39:47Shawn Ryan:They manipulate you.

39:49Michael Schlep:Yeah, I mean, that's what it was. Like, it was... It was... I don't think I have, like, even now, met someone so manipulative. I mean, it was... It was insane. like the people that I know that were also victimized by this guy also say the exact same stuff. I mean, he was such a manipulator. He would try to get anybody to do whatever he felt necessary. But yeah, I mean, as it continued with these conversations, he would show me, like, gore, which was like, you know, I was a child. I was... that was like probably some of the most traumatic things for a kid to see. I mean, here, let me actually show you.

40:35Michael Schlep:I have some stuff on my laptop, some of the messages. Let me pull this up real quick.

40:50Michael Schlep:okay so you can see this here this is i i believe i was either 14 or 15 here this is the christ church shooting and he he sent me this is a girl dead in the street he made me watch this shooting in full on Discord. And he actually, I remember specifically, he made me have to screen share that I was watching, because I was like, I'm not going to watch this. He's like, turn on your screen share, or I'm banning you from all your stuff. And he also had my information, which I had accidentally leaked. How did he pull that out of you? So, I think what happened here, I think I have an image of it. Yeah.

41:35Michael Schlep:Oh, okay. Here it is. So, I had... He was like, I don't believe you're actually the age you are. And I mean, I'm just such a stupid kid. I mean, looking back, like, why did I do this? But, um... You're 12. That's why you did it. That's why I did this. But, um... Yeah, I mean, here was him. How old was I? This is 2016. So this is him threatening to put my ID on his banner, on his Roblox account or Twitter account, and he's threatening to do it. Is that... Don't do it. Is that a challenge? I mean, that was the message he was writing to me as a kid. And he would constantly threaten to publish my information, to contact my family members.

42:18Michael Schlep:You know, it was really, really traumatic, and I didn't know how to get away. As time continued, he started grooming more and more kids. I have one more thing too. This one is pretty bad. This was a girl he groomed. Here you go. So he had made this girl, like, she was self-harmed. She self-harmed because of the grooming and abuse this guy was putting her through. She had stuck a pin through one hand or side out the other. And I remember, and I didn't understand it because it's hard for me to convey because it, like, looking back, it's like, this was so obvious, but it was not obvious to me. That girl in specifics, he instructed this girl to lie about her age to everyone online.

43:16Michael Schlep:And it's so disgusting. I mean, she actually dropped out of high school early because of the abuse that she suffered because of this guy. She had to go back and redo stuff. She had to deal with a lot of harassment and just... I mean, it was horrific to see.

43:37Shawn Ryan:How did it get to that point? Did she send images of herself?

43:44Michael Schlep:Pretty much what had happened was someone had joined his community on... Like he joined his Discord server that was linked directly on Roblox. And she had... She was a vulnerable girl that he saw that he could take advantage of. And he manipulated this mentally ill girl into doing a lot of horrible stuff. And she was on... She started taking medication because of her depression. and then she was manipulated to keep taking it. And, I mean, it was so disturbing. I mean, it was so gross. And she had tried to get away from this guy, and she was like, I can't be with you because of the age gap. And he was begging this girl to continue to be in a relationship with her.

44:41Michael Schlep:And I didn't know a lot of this was going on because he had instructed everybody you talked to that you are an adult. You aren't the age you actually are. So when I found out that she was actually the same, or I think she was a year older than me, I was like, this had happened twice with two different girls he had groomed. And it actually screwed with my perception of age because it was people I had viewed as adults were actually like friends. They were the same age as me. And it was like, it really screwed with my perception of age. These people that I thought I was having conversations with that were adults, they were kids the same age as me.

45:31Michael Schlep:It was really horrible. It was, I mean, it's something I still have kind of a hard time talking about. in full capacity. But it led me...

45:41Shawn Ryan:Are you willing to go a little bit deeper?

45:45Michael Schlep:I mean, that's pretty much the gist of a lot of it. I mean, he would send me a lot of... and he would show me a lot of gore, and he was just obsessed with mass shooters. But, I mean, that was... That was pretty much the gist of it. What ended up happening, though, me and a friend had figured out a lot of what this dude had done. He would make kids strip on Discord calls. Multiple... He would make kids piss themselves on Discord calls.

46:21Shawn Ryan:Did you ever have to do anything like that? No.

46:23Michael Schlep:I never sent him any nudes or anything like that. But he... Did he ask? He would have very inappropriate conversations with me. He would ask me about, like, just really weird questions, like, about body hair and masturbation, and like, oh, what type of... do you watch? Like, that sort of stuff. And it was definitely something that... just I didn't...

46:53Shawn Ryan:So he's planting seeds in your head that you don't even know exist yet as a kid.

46:59Michael Schlep:Yeah. To spark the curiosity so that you go and find that, hoping that it will lose your mind and then you come to him and then he's in. I think so. And I think one thing too was he would use material curated for kids. There was this one show, some French TV show, and it was kind of like an adult comedy. But it actually like teached about fetishes and stuff like that. I forgot the name of it, but he intentionally showed that to me and some other kids to teach us about stuff. I mean, that was... There's actually a concept, which I'll talk about a little later when it comes to these Roblox predators, but it's called EPI.

47:48Michael Schlep:It's called early introduction. And it's what a lot of these predators do is they get off on the idea of turning children into porn addicts. Like, there's stuff I'll show later. Like, they have whole, like, diagrams and, like, stuff that they use to try to get kids into a porn pipeline, so that, and they get off on the idea of turning children into porn addicts so that they become like them. And a lot of the stuff he was doing really aligned with a lot of that sort of stuff that related to that. But pretty much all this abuse culminated in a suicide attempt. And this was after me and a friend had figured out about all this stuff.

48:36Shawn Ryan:Your suicide attempt?

48:37Michael Schlep:Yeah, I had a suicide attempt because...

48:40Shawn Ryan:How old were you?

48:41Michael Schlep:15. I was 15.

48:42Shawn Ryan:15 years old.

48:43Michael Schlep:Yes, yeah, I was 15 years old. And, um...

48:51Michael Schlep:It's... Man, um... Yeah, I had... Pretty much what had happened is I... Figured out with a friend what was going on, and we just destroyed his whole Discord server. And Denny was threatening and all of that, and I just couldn't take it. I made an attempt. And, uh... How were you gonna do it? Uh, I had pills that I was gonna take. I had a lot of pills and... Called up my mom, I'm like, I need to go to the hospital right now. Um... She took me to a mental health hospital. While I was in the hospital, my mom was piecing together everything that had happened back at home. Um... Shit. Yeah, um... At 15?

49:40Michael Schlep:Yeah, I mean, it... And let me clarify one thing, too. that this person that had did this to me, he was a developer on Roblox that was featured in brand material all across the platform. He was featured in television ads that would play on Cartoon Network. His little toy, they were selling in all across the United States. And this was the same guy that was not only blackmailing me, that was grooming me and exposing me to most heinous material. I mean, the Christchurch shooting was... I had a nightmare. I couldn't sleep. I literally could not sleep at night. And, um, yeah, I mean, I made an attempt, and while I was in the hospital, my mom pieced together what was going on.

50:28Michael Schlep:She made an email to Roblox, and Roblox pretty much brushed her off. They had, for one, I think they just, like, responded back with the suicide hotline, and then she said she wrote something else, and... I guess she might, I think she said she got on a call with someone at Roblox, and they're just like, we can't do anything. You know, it's not, we can't do anything.

50:53Shawn Ryan:Did they know it's their developer?

50:56Michael Schlep:As far as I know, yes. I mean, that, that, that's, I mean, I have.

51:02Shawn Ryan:So they know that one of their developers is the one that is exploiting kids. and they respond. And then you have a 15-year-old kid who tries to kill himself because of this fucking developer. And their response is a suicide hotline and there's nothing we can do.

51:24Michael Schlep:When I told Roblox about all this and why I do the work I did, that's what they emailed me back with. Like, I told them while I was getting these people arrested, I'm doing this because I was victimized. And they responded with the suicide hotline number. So, yeah. I mean, that's... Holy shit. Pretty much how he had... What ended up happening to him, a victim of his went to Roblox, and they were a high-profile person on the platform at that time, and said that, hey, this person was not only leaking NDA material between the company and this guy, which it was like, I believe it was event-related stuff, which, I mean, that's the highest NDA stuff, at least from my understanding as a developer, you could have.

52:15Michael Schlep:But this guy was abusing me and doing all this other horrible, horrible stuff. They had just terminated them off the platform. And a lot of people were confused online because this was a huge developer who just vanished. And there was no say from Roblox on any of it. I had talked to people who were still in communication with this developer just to keep tabs on him, see what he was doing. And pretty much Roblox got this guy into a call and said, hey, why did you do this? And he was like, I'm going to get my attorneys involved. And he Roblox entered the call and then just terminated all of his accounts.

52:59That's what I was told by a third party.

53:02Michael Schlep:So I don't know how accurate that is, but he was eventually banned, which in the timeframe it took for him to get banned and for my situation, I had been fighting tooth and nail to get this guy removed off the platform. I was reaching out to massive content creators like Ruben Sim, who I'll be talking about a little later, to see if there's anything that could be done. And I mean, I tried everything and I couldn't do anything. and just, it eventually came out what this guy had done. And, um, yeah. It was brutal. And, um, I mean, this is... These are the type of people that Roblox has protected, in the, you know, in the grand scheme of things.

53:53Shawn Ryan:Is that the first time that your parents found out about it, was your suicide attempt?

53:58Michael Schlep:Yes. And even after that, I was kind of like, I was telling them bits and pieces, but I wasn't telling them the entire thing until I got a little bit older.

54:07Shawn Ryan:What kind of bits and pieces?

54:09Michael Schlep:I told them that this guy was sending me... but I wasn't telling them that this guy was exposing me to traumatic mass shooting gore, and just how I was having some anxiety and just really depressed. And I bottled a lot of it up for a while. And I wish I went to my parents sooner about all of it. And I think that's...

54:35Shawn Ryan:What do you think the point of the... mass shootings and gore was?

54:42Michael Schlep:I think that these people genuinely are evil and they believe in chaos.

54:46Shawn Ryan:You think it's a satanic cult?

54:48Michael Schlep:I don't know about him in particular, but I just know that these people are genuinely evil and they sympathize with evil and they believe in evil. and that's why he was attracted to evil, be it kids, be it mass shootings. I mean, it was really, really, like, one of the most sick individuals. I mean, he was the most sick individual I'd ever met in my life. And he was in brands. He was in the toys that were being sold all across America.

55:22Shawn Ryan:This just... I just want to circle back to what we just talked about at the very beginning of this show.

55:27Michael Schlep:Yeah.

55:28Shawn Ryan:These people are everywhere.

55:30Michael Schlep:Yep.

55:31Shawn Ryan:And they find the occupations where they get access to kids. Yep. Here's probably some kind of a world-renowned developer, engineer, that's working on what wound up being probably the most successful kids game in the history of the world. And that's where he's at. Why? Because he wants to target kids. And so he put himself in a position where it makes it easy as hell to target kids.

56:02Michael Schlep:Yeah.

56:02Shawn Ryan:And it worked.

56:03Michael Schlep:I mean, he really threw out a lot of stuff to groom kids. I mean, before he got banned, he made one of the most technologically advanced games that the website had ever seen, and it blew people's minds. Like, he had spent so long working on it. And the reason why he made that was because out of a fit of rage and depression, he, after grooming a kid and the fear of being caught because a developer had kind of known about this, he had made this incredible game. And he had a lot to lose and kept doing it. And I mean, it...

56:41Shawn Ryan:Now, when you say developer also, is this a developer that is being paid by Roblox? He's within the organization.

56:51Michael Schlep:So I probably should preface this. So Roblox has actual staff at their company. And then they also have developers on the site who I guess kind of are contractors. I mean, they make games. They have to sign a contract to be able to exchange the Roblox currency into real-life money. So, yeah, I mean, he was... But him in particular...

57:16Shawn Ryan:So he is on the payroll.

57:17Michael Schlep:He was a contractor for Roblox.

57:19Shawn Ryan:He was getting paychecks from the company Roblox.

57:22Michael Schlep:Specifically, yeah, because he had toys of his character that were being sold and merchandised by Roblox that were in ads placed on television. He's a face of it. He was a face of Roblox. He was a face of Roblox, yes. And it's really sad, too. A lot of people don't know why he was banned. What's his name? Should I name him? No. No? Okay. Yeah, okay. Yeah.

57:52Michael Schlep:Yeah.

57:53Shawn Ryan:He had a lawsuit against me in Ireland over it.

58:07Okay.

58:07Shawn Ryan:Hold on. How the fuck? What litigation?

58:15Michael Schlep:He threatened a law. No, he created a lawsuit against me in Ireland. Like, yeah, the whole lawsuit. For what? He says he was blackmailed by one of these victims. Which, the victim...

58:29Shawn Ryan:Blackmailed? The victim... By his victim? What the fuck does that even mean?

58:33Michael Schlep:If you read the lawsuit, it literally confirms he's a pedophile. I mean, that's the crazy part about it. But, yeah, I mean, yeah. That's how crazy this stuff is, man. That's really all I have to say about it. But, yeah, I was viciously groomed by this predator. And, I mean, he still goes after and tries to harass me.

58:58Shawn Ryan:Has there been any repercussions? Is this guy just roaming around free?

59:03Michael Schlep:Yeah, and he was actually making new Roblox accounts as of 2023. And Roblox didn't care.

59:10Shawn Ryan:Roblox didn't care?

59:11Michael Schlep:I was the one who had to blow the whistle on it. I have to keep track of their pedophiles. That's how crazy this is.

59:22Shawn Ryan:So nothing's happened to this guy?

59:24Michael Schlep:Nope.

59:27Michael Schlep:Nothing has happened. A lot of victims who really deserve justice. ones who dropped out of school.

59:35Shawn Ryan:Has anybody mentioned this guy's name?

59:38Michael Schlep:Everyone's afraid they're going to get sued by this guy because Roblox gave him hundreds of thousands of dollars.

59:45Shawn Ryan:If you give me the name, can I put it out? Sure.

59:50Michael Schlep:I mean, could he put it out? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'll give you his full name. Perfect. Yeah, I... Yeah. I mean, the... And, you know, all the claims I have against him, I have everything documented. His accounts are still on Discord. I have him sending me when I was a minor. I have him talking about how, you know, asking a, I believe it was either 11 or 12 year old, hey, should I be in a relationship that I clearly shouldn't be in? I have him sending me, you know, just the most horrific stuff. So, I mean, if he ever wants to try something at me, Discovery will be very interesting. I will say that.

1:00:31Shawn Ryan:I can't believe this fucking guy's still out there.

1:00:33Michael Schlep:Yep. And just to think, Roblox, rather than sending him the cease and desist, who's still reaccessing the platform, they sent me the cease and desist.

1:00:44Shawn Ryan:You've got to be fucking kidding me. Yeah.

1:00:47Michael Schlep:And my abuser was harassing me with money that he had gained from Roblox. Yeah.

1:00:55Shawn Ryan:Let's take a break.

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1:02:29Michael Schlep:Hi, I'm Sarah Adams, the host of Vigilance Elites, The Watch Floor, where we highlight what matters. It became a permissive state, explained to you why it matters, and then aimed to leave you feeling better informed than you were before you hit play. Terrace, hostile intelligence agencies, organized crime. Not everything is urgent, but this show will focus on what is need to know, not just what is nice to know.

1:03:08Shawn Ryan:All right, Slip, we're back from the break. Man, I... So... Your attorney's not gonna be in here for this one. He's outside because my attorney's calling him because... And I want my attorney to have full visibility on who this fucking guy is in the whole story because if I get the cleared hut, which I probably will, he's gonna be way more famous than Roblox ever fucking made him. Where is he? Ireland?

1:03:36Michael Schlep:Ireland. Ireland.

1:03:37Shawn Ryan:I would imagine most Irish people don't like pedophiles.

1:03:42Michael Schlep:This guy's...

1:03:43Shawn Ryan:Your dad's out there.

1:03:44Michael Schlep:Yeah.

1:03:44Shawn Ryan:He's getting emotional because he said that he has never even heard you mention this fucker's name. Yeah. We got you, dude. I hate these fucking people, and I will stop at nothing to fucking get them. I fucking hate them.

1:04:02Michael Schlep:It's definitely something that...

1:04:04Shawn Ryan:He's still doing this shit.

1:04:06Michael Schlep:He was back on Roblox in 2023. I can't even comprehend the idea. He was making games again on the platform.

1:04:17Shawn Ryan:And they're aware of this shit?

1:04:19Michael Schlep:I don't know if they're aware of this, but I will say they allowed him to come back and make games. And I had to stick my own neck out there to make sure that this guy was gone for good. I mean, that's the thing about it. That's why I'm so passionate about the stuff I do, because, I mean, it is something that really hurt me. And we'll talk about it later, but, I mean, being able to get people arrested was my form of therapy. It was my form of, like, I would get someone arrested, and then I'd get an email from a kid, and they'd be like, you got my groomer arrested. there's there's no other form of satisfaction greater than that that was more healing to the abuse that I went through because I know I'd give anything for someone to do that for me I could not sorry

1:05:26Shawn Ryan:come here my friend come here

1:05:33Shawn Ryan:appreciate it I would give

1:05:37Michael Schlep:anything for that to happen to me. I know those victims that went through that horrible stuff alongside me would give anything for that to happen. And really what I was trying to figure out and this whole Roblox stuff was why they didn't care. They didn't care about me, they didn't care about any of the victims who suffered horrible, horrible abuse and the current victims that are have been subjected to so, so much worse, so much worse, like kidnappings. I'm gonna read you some of these stories. Honestly, would you like to see some of them?

1:06:21Shawn Ryan:Yeah, let's see it.

1:06:22Michael Schlep:Let's take a look at some of these because these are just some of the most disgusting things you will ever hear. Let me see. So there's this kid. His name was Ethan Dallas. You can see right here. He, um, on Roblox, he, here, let me show this photo. This here is Ethan Dallas. He, while playing Roblox, met this piece of shit pedophile right here. He had thwarted this kid viciously. I mean, he had to live with this for, from my understanding, a long time. Like, he had to suffer this abuse, and he had finally come out to his parents about it. And due to all the abuse and this guy, he ended up taking his own life.

1:07:21Michael Schlep:His parents are the first wrongful death lawsuit that has been filed against Roblox. They have a wonderful foundation. The first? The first, yeah.

1:07:32Shawn Ryan:How many are there?

1:07:34Michael Schlep:I don't know as of this moment, but I'd assume there's a lot that's going to be coming. I know there's a lot of kids who have taken their own lives because of Roblox.

1:07:42Shawn Ryan:What would your estimation be? Tens? Hundreds?

1:07:47Michael Schlep:I'll tell you this. within this year, so it's, what day is it? It is February the 5th. Six kids have been missing or found because of Roblox. That's being reported. I can actually go through these with you.

1:08:07Let me see.

1:08:13Michael Schlep:So this here is Thomas Medlin. They're currently still searching for him. innocent kid. I spoke with his dad and he seemed like a wonderful, wonderful kid. He was very smart. He went missing on, I believe, January 6th. He has been missing ever since. He took a train to New York City. His phone last pinged on the Brooklyn Bridge. He told his friends from school that he was going to meet someone off of Roblox.

1:08:48Shawn Ryan:Holy shit.

1:08:49Michael Schlep:This is one.

1:08:51Shawn Ryan:How old is that kid?

1:08:53Michael Schlep:I believe he was 15, I almost said. This here is a boy with intellectual disability who was lured off of Roblox to San Diego, lived in Philadelphia. I don't know if he got to Philadelphia, but they were trying to look for him. he was found, thankfully.

1:09:15Shawn Ryan:Where was he found?

1:09:17Michael Schlep:I'm not exactly sure the exact location, but he was found. What condition? I'm not exactly sure. I don't know if they've released the condition or how, but they found this kid, and he was lured off of Roblox.

1:09:40Michael Schlep:These are two sisters in Mexico who were lured off of Roblox. They were luckily found very gratefully, and they seem to be in good condition, but they were lured off the platform by a predator.

1:10:01Michael Schlep:and just this week this week this piece of shit pedophile tried to lure or no he he drove get this 23 hours to pick up these two kids right or i don't know if i have a photo of it to pick up two kids and he abducted them from their home. Georgia State Patrol found him driving in the car that they put out, I guess, an Amber Alert about, found the two girls from Roblox. Holy shit. These are only 2026 so far. If we just go off of how January went, that's going to be, I think I did, it would be 46 kids by the end of the year. And these are only the, what is being reported to be Roblox.

1:10:52Shawn Ryan:And only in the U.S.

1:10:53Michael Schlep:Only in the U.S. Well, there was one in Mexico. Yeah, but.

1:11:00Shawn Ryan:And that doesn't count all the kids that are exploited, the sevens of four shit. Nope. And it's going to snowball.

1:11:09Michael Schlep:It's just going to get bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger. Bigger and bigger and bigger. And here.

1:11:15Shawn Ryan:How many years were you enduring that kind of abuse?

1:11:19Michael Schlep:Three years.

1:11:20Shawn Ryan:Three fucking years.

1:11:22Michael Schlep:Three years of abuse. And it just got progressively worse and worse and worse with time.

1:11:27Shawn Ryan:It started at 12?

1:11:28Michael Schlep:Yeah. And he was still trying to contact me even after my suicide attempt. I mean, he was contacting me through Roblox, like the developer form thing, and he was doing everything, and I had to send messages to him like, I want nothing to do with you anymore. Like, that was what I was saying, and he was still contacting me.

1:11:53Shawn Ryan:Holy shit.

1:11:55Michael Schlep:Yeah. Yeah, I mean, let me read you one of these cases, because I think really, nobody reads the actual, like you hear lawsuit filed, but nobody reads what these lawsuits have. And if I had known one of these lawsuits or anything, you would take your kids off of this game instantaneously. Okay. Plaintiff is a young girl who was exploited by a known predator through defendants platform, Roblox and Discord. So they're both being sued, Roblox and Discord. Defendants' unsafe and defectively designed products enabled the Predator to access and groom and victimize Planktiff. Planktiff was a 10-year-old girl when she first started playing Roblox.

1:12:42Michael Schlep:At relevant times, Planktiff's grandmother had sole custody of Planktiff. Planktiff's grandmother, next friend, believed that Roblox was safe for kids. So all the people involved, they thought Roblox was a safe game. It's advertised as safe. I mean, the marketing is for parents. This game is safe. There's nothing bad on here. Let's see. While playing Roblox with her cousins in or about May of 2022, an adult predator initiated contact with Plaintiff, a then 11-year-old, through Roblox's chat function. The predator falsely claimed to be a 13-year-old boy, a misrepresentation facilitated by Roblox's lack of age identity verification and exploited her age and vulnerability to build a false emotional connection with them the predator was in fact a 26 year old man who was listed on the public offender registry following a conviction for online solicitation of a minor at time he initiated contact through uh throughout the relevant period the predator was on probation.

1:13:52Shawn Ryan:Holy shit.

1:13:53Michael Schlep:The Predator used Roblox's communication features to groom Planktiff and promptly directed her to Discord, where he instructed Planktiff on how to conceal their communications from her family. Discord, defaultly, is an easily accessible private messaging app that allows Predators to escalate grooming. Shortly after looming the Planktiff to Discord, the Predator intensified the grooming and began sending Planktiff nude photographs. The Predator Predator then coerced Planktiff to send explicit images of herself. Discord's reporting system failed to detect, block, or remove any of the Predator's accounts in a timely manner.

1:14:30Michael Schlep:On or about 2022, Planktiff was at home under supervision of her great-grandparents. The Predator coached the Planktiff how to sneak out. Planktiff then left her grandparents' house and met Predator in person. He abducted her, bound her hands with a leather belt, and raped her multiple times, including vaginal intercourse. He then returned home and instructed her to lie about the assault. Thereafter, the Predator continued to communicate with Planktiff.

1:15:04Michael Schlep:On or about, following 2022, discourage communication with Predator. um uh predator waited outside of aunt's home plaintiff scaled the fence to meet him and then he abducted her again plaintiff did not have her phone leaving her family no way to relocate her um plaintiff's family then grew concerned about her disappearance and contacted law enforcement plaintiff's family turned over her devices to the fbi um uh and they i guess they ended up finding out who this was. Wow. I believe in this. She was in... She got pregnant off of the Predator. Oh my gosh. Let me double check.

1:15:59Michael Schlep:Yeah, okay, here. Um, assault examination confirmed the assaults. With DNA matching predator, it was revealed that the predator had impregnated Planktiff during one of the assaults. Planktiff's grandmother was informed by health professionals that as an 11-year-old girl weighing less than 90 pounds, the pregnancy put the Planktiff's life in jeopardy. Holy shit. Fearing the Planktiff's, her grandmother drove her to New Mexico where the Planktiff underwent an abortion.

1:16:35Michael Schlep:This is Roblox. This is the kids game. She met someone off of the game, got brutally multiple times, and had to have an abortion because of the child predator she met off of this. An 11-year-old girl. An 11-year-old.

1:17:02Michael Schlep:I have one more I'd like to read for you because this one is horrible.

1:17:19Michael Schlep:Planktiff is a 15-year-old girl who was an avid Roblox user. She was horrifically and traumatically manipulated, groomed, ...exploited and sexually abused by a violent, depraved predator who posed as a fellow minor through Defendant's dangerous app, which enabled and facilitated this predator's heinous crimes as a result of Defendant's reckless disregard for child safety. Planktiff was approximately 10 years old when she began playing Roblox. Planktiff's mother trusted that Roblox was a safe place because they advertise this. They tell parents it's educational. How do they...

1:17:53Shawn Ryan:can you show me... let's finish this. Yeah. Then I want to see how they advertise. Oh, absolutely. It's a safe place.

1:17:59Michael Schlep:One of the quotes from the CEO is, Roblox is the safest platform for anyone on the internet.

1:18:05Shawn Ryan:Are you serious?

1:18:06Michael Schlep:Of any age. Yes. That is a quote from David Buzuki, CEO he gave on. That is what they're telling parents. Safest platform on the internet for anyone of any age.

1:18:20Michael Schlep:based on the misleading and dangerous inadequate from planktus mother wait uh here actually let me okay um around july 2020 the planktiff was a vulnerable 10 year old when she was targeted on roblox by a predator who deliberately posed as a fellow minor to exploit planktus age and vulnerability the predator methodically cultivated a false emotional connected connection with Planktiff by promising friendship and connection. When the Predator learned of Planktiff's true age, rather than any contact, he explicitly told Planktiff that he didn't care that she was 10 years old. The Predator continued to foster an emotional and manipulative relationship with Planktiff through Defendant's chat messaging feature, which Roblox designed to allow unrestricted private communications between users, regardless of age.

1:19:11Shawn Ryan:What, what, why would you, Why would you make a encrypted private messenger on a fucking game that is meant for kids?

1:19:22Michael Schlep:I have no idea.

1:19:23Shawn Ryan:Why the fuck would you do that?

1:19:24Michael Schlep:You know what's shocking? All you have to do to wipe all the communication you have with someone is unfriend them. So that's what a lot of predators do. They have all these messages on Roblox built with their victims. They get caught or whatever. They hit unfriend. You can't access it anymore. The only way you could, at least as far as I know, was a subpoena so i mean that's that's insane i mean that that's something that i've heard from detectives that they think roblox should fix they've told this to roblox hey roblox communication

1:19:54Shawn Ryan:team that's been in touch with us why do you fucking go why do you go there you go you want to fix your platform that would be a good fucking step yep a real good fucking step Why the fuck do you have private messaging capabilities on a fucking game that is meant for kids? Why the fuck would you do that? I... Ugh.

1:20:17Michael Schlep:The Predator eventually coerced Planktiff into sending nudes. A few months later, after successfully conditioning Planktiff through months of grooming and manipulation, the Predator convinced Planktiff to meet him in person. In October of 2020, when Planktiff was only 10 years old, the predator coerced Planktiff to meet in person. Planktiff, believing that she was meeting someone she could trust, snuck out of her home in the middle of the night. The predator transported Planktiff to a local motel where she was trafficked and violently by five men, including the predator. Two of these people were never caught.

1:20:56Michael Schlep:Two of them. This is one of the lawsuits, only one of the lawsuits that are filed against Roblox. A 10-year-old was by five men that they met off of that app. Two were never caught. They describe it as carefully orchestrated, this whole abduction. This is what predators are doing on this app.

1:21:22Michael Schlep:I'm going to read to you some of the quotes that these executives at Roblox, they've been telling parents.

1:21:32Michael Schlep:So this here is Tammy Bomick. She's a Roblox VP of Civility and Partnerships. And also just something interesting to note about her. She serves on the board of multiple child safety boards while working for Roblox. That's a huge conflict of interest. You're working for the company under legal scrutiny. Why are you... These are supposed to be organizations dedicated to regulating Roblox.

1:21:55Shawn Ryan:Say that one more time. Let me see.

1:21:57Michael Schlep:Tammy Bomek. And she's actually mentioned in a lot of these lawsuits for this exact reason. So read that quote she said here.

1:22:07Shawn Ryan:This is Tammy Bomek, Roblox VP of Civilty and Partnerships. Yep. A lot of the negative, in quotes, a lot of the negative press has come from things that have happened five years ago.

1:22:23Michael Schlep:so does that mean it's not relevant that that 10 year old was five years ago and who like tammy bomick said that and she she works for uh civility and safety at roblox or civility and partnerships um i mean there's so many things i mean for one just that's a whole thing to get into for one that's not even true a lot of the the situations making headlines they have happened within the last five years.

1:22:53Shawn Ryan:You just brought up six this year.

1:22:54Michael Schlep:That happened this month. Literally this month.

1:22:58Shawn Ryan:It's only, what, February? Yeah, all those situations

1:23:01Michael Schlep:have just happened within the last month. So that's what Roblox, that's how they're trying to downplay this to parents. That's how they're trying to manipulate parents into staying on the platform.

1:23:15Michael Schlep:CEO of Roblox. Roblox CEO says, predators are an opportunity to improve moderation. And now let me preface this. He meant this in the capacity of, you know, try to improve safety. But how can you view a situation where a 10-year-old gets violently by five men as an opportunity? I mean, that is a total failure. Your platform failed at its job. And they view this as an opportunity. And they actually went as far as to double down on that. Matt Kaufman was pretty much saying, let's see. He's pretty much saying, one thing I find interesting about Roblox and that people don't always think about Roblox is that there are no billboards.

1:24:05Michael Schlep:When you drive up and down the highway, we don't have a Super Bowl commercial. Our growth is driven by word of mouth. It's driven by trust of parents and families when you talk about growth. When you look at safety, safety is a real driver for growth for the company. So they're not even looking at this from a perspective of these are children that are being brutally and molested. They're viewing it as a way we need to grow our company more. That's how disconnected this all feels. They have never put out a statement about any of these victims that has had any genuineness. Like, we really care about what's going on.

1:24:45Michael Schlep:We really, really are, you know, are heartbroken about, you know, all these lawsuits that are being filed against our company. From what my attorneys have told me, Roblox has never even asked about how any of these victims are doing.

1:25:05Michael Schlep:That's the craziest thing. Roblox CEO says, Keep your kids off of Roblox if you're worried. That's how he views it. Keep your kids off of this game if you're worried.

1:25:20Shawn Ryan:I can't even... I can't stop thinking about that 10-year-old girl.

1:25:27Michael Schlep:Check this out. So this here is Matt Coffman. He is the chief safety officer at Roblox. I'm going to talk about this in a minute, But this guy here, he put out a statement after my whole situation with Roblox where he compared me to child predators. He said, similar to actual predators, the work that me and my team have done, getting these child predators convicted, is similar to child predators. That was what this person said here. But anyways, check this out. We'll put this up on screen here. We make sure that adults cannot check, cannot communicate with minors. Can you guarantee that that won't happen?

1:26:12Michael Schlep:With a car, with a bumper and the airbag and all of those things, can the car guarantee that you're 100 % safe? No. I wouldn't put a child behind the wheel of a car, though. These systems are constantly being improved. No system is ever 100 % perfect, but we are committed to going above and beyond what is being asked for us to do to make the platform safe. the thing with cars is they're regulated. You know? That's the thing about cars. If you make a car that kills a ton of people, guess what happens?

1:26:46Shawn Ryan:You get sued.

1:26:47Michael Schlep:Exactly. Exactly.

1:26:50Shawn Ryan:This is fucking crazy.

1:26:52Michael Schlep:Mm-hmm.

1:26:53Shawn Ryan:This is fucking crazy.

1:26:54Michael Schlep:Yep. Tell me about...

1:26:57Shawn Ryan:I can't even fucking think anymore. I know.

1:27:01Michael Schlep:I'm sorry. I just...

1:27:02Shawn Ryan:This is the world I've created for myself is going after this kind of shit, and I just have to learn how to fucking deal with it. But... Oh, man. Tell me, you know... Tell me more... I just need a break. Just for two seconds on the one... On the carnage in the... In... Fucking 10-year-old girl, man. A 10-year-old girl.

1:27:28Michael Schlep:I read you two lawsuits. There's 100 of them that are filed. Anyone can read. Yeah, I totally agree.

1:27:37Shawn Ryan:We've talked about how they make... How it's easy to find, isolate, and exploit kids in the game through the private messaging app. Yep. Is there any other things that make it easy?

1:27:50Michael Schlep:Yeah.

1:27:51Shawn Ryan:How do you interact? Maybe I should just play the fucking game. Sure. So I can get an actual...

1:27:58Michael Schlep:You want to play it right now? I can pull it up.

1:28:00Shawn Ryan:Yeah, but I do. One second. But then on top of that, content slash normal. So they had in Epstein Island, P. Diddy Games, Adopt Me, Dalhouse Roleplay, Condo Games, Big E Island was up for four days. Then Roblox took it down. And violent extremist content like, I guess there was a reenactment of the Charlie Kirk assassination. Yes. On the game? I mean, how does this shit...

1:28:35Michael Schlep:There's also, on Roblox, I'm gonna have you play some of the games, mass shooting recreations to... I mean, it is exact one-to-one of real life tragedies. I mean, for instance, the Rob...

1:28:52Shawn Ryan:And this is for kids.

1:28:53Michael Schlep:Yeah.

1:28:54Shawn Ryan:Go ahead.

1:28:55Michael Schlep:The Rob Elementary School shooting? Yeah, that was... That's a game I'm gonna... I don't wanna get ahead of myself. There's... You're gonna... I mean, it's on the platform.

1:29:06Shawn Ryan:Alright, fuck it. Let's... How do we do this? Let's do it.

1:29:10Michael Schlep:Should I probably, like, before I give you this, explain a little bit why I can't play Roblox? Yeah, yeah, they would be... I haven't even touched the cease and desist letter or anything that this company has sent me. So, okay. I guess I'll start here. After all the stuff that happened to me as a kid, I just started making, like, I had a lot of friends in the community, so I still stayed on the platform. I created normal Roblox gaming videos, and I was getting messages about Child Predators, and it blew my mind, because this was the most innocent game you can even think of. It was that thing I was talking about at the start, that game I really liked.

1:29:51Michael Schlep:I was so shocked that there was even Child Predators on that. So I started, I made a new channel where I talked about a lot of these predators and horrible people in the community and a lot of the news and drama that was going on. And I eventually started going ahead and exposing these darker communities on the platform after I was just finding them on my own free time. And I started making little Chris Hansen catches on the game where I'd dress up in his avatar and confront these people on the game. and then I got in touch with a predator catcher, and he showed me how to predator catch, and I researched the laws, and within 10 months, me and my team got six child predators within the Roblox community arrested.

1:30:37Michael Schlep:We would find these people in Roblox Discord servers, and they would pretty much be trying to send the most vile stuff possible, and we would be like, oh, I live like 30 minutes from you, and guess what? They're trying to arrange a real-life meetup. um we were never with the predators the predators had to be with us because there's a whole list of things like coercion and you know you have to do it strictly by the book and we would go ahead and talk to these um predators and we would just be an innocent young girl who knew nothing about any of these people and we caught six child predators two are now convicted um within the Roblox community.

1:31:20Michael Schlep:Here I can show you just a few clips that I got from them. Okay so this here is Amore Hunt. He is now a sex offender in Florida. This was actually cited in Florida's Attorney General lawsuit against Roblox because they mentioned my whole situation and this conviction. This is him uh explaining uh i'll let the video play for itself here you can watch it hey what's up so we're here with uh your roblox developer right hello yep uh we're about to do the wipe on his phone we're gonna get rid of the uh uh child on your phone right okay how many images do you think we have to get rid of child phone about like 30 or 40 okay and what's the game coming out that

1:32:11Shawn Ryan:you got on roblox soon uh undertale hell yeah we're gonna fucking we're gonna make this game successful.

1:32:16Michael Schlep:He was - What? He was arrested on three counts of child -

1:32:20Shawn Ryan:What the fuck was that video from?

1:32:23Michael Schlep:That was a predator who attempted to communicate with what he thought was a kid. Um, he - I ended up talking to him, um, and pretty much he - we couldn't arrange a meet because he wasn't telling his actual location. And I ended up talking to him, I was like, hey, I know some people who travel the country, and if you just tell them everything that you told me, they can help you and get you resources. You know, I showed up in person, told...

1:32:52Shawn Ryan:Get you resources to clean his devices?

1:32:55Michael Schlep:He wanted to get mental help or whatever for looking and talking to children. And I was like, sure, here's... And that was a predator catcher. He showed up in person to meet. He was convicted on three counts of childbirth. Holy shit. Yeah. And then, let me show you this one. This here is... This here is Donald Boongarn. He is convicted. He's gonna be sentenced pretty soon. He was a child predator messaging one of our decoy accounts on Roblox Discord server. and when he showed up in person he was trying to fake cry his way out of it. I need help. He's here to help you.

1:33:44Shawn Ryan:Alright, Dawn, so here's what we're going to do. I'm just going to put you in cuffs right now. You're only detained. You're not under arrest at this time until we can go through all this and figure out what we're going to do. Okay.

1:33:54Michael Schlep:Hey, man.

1:33:55Shawn Ryan:I didn't know.

1:33:56Michael Schlep:With that size, man, you're the wrong... You're messing with the wrong five. Can you...

1:34:01Shawn Ryan:Come over here. Come over here.

1:34:03Michael Schlep:Come over here. Oh, please.

1:34:08Shawn Ryan:Please. I fucked up. Please, oh. All right. We're just going to go over here and have a seat in my car. About your only favorite. Bill, friends. Stinky pussy.

1:34:17Michael Schlep:Yeah, he was just convicted. He actually had arranged the car that he drove to that park with, the whole back of it, it was kind of like a makeshift bed. He was planning to take a, I believe I want to say it was either 14 or 15 year old, to a trail nearby where he was going to viciously this girl and also record it. And I mean, his messages were so horrible. I mean, they were just disgusting to even read. He was recently just... he took a plea deal with their detectives... or with their... what would it be? Prosecutor's office. Oh my god. This here is Manuel Gonzalez. We caught him, I think it was June of last year.

1:35:17Michael Schlep:He showed up at a park with drugs, playing to what he thought was, I believe it was a 13-year-old.

1:35:29Michael Schlep:He was charged on online solicitation. And I mean, just listen to this. I mean, this is going to blow you away. This is while he was playing Roblox with our decoy account. By the way, I forgot I already mentioned that like the first time I heard you.

1:35:43Shawn Ryan:Thank you. I like your voice too.

1:35:47Michael Schlep:I'm surprised you're still real. I don't know. I'm very nervous about that. That's one of my biggest fears. Yeah, I thought you were like a police officer. You know?

1:35:57Shawn Ryan:Me? Yes, you. I don't know. Maybe you're trying to get me undercover. Why? Yo, because what we're gonna do is not good. It's pretty bad, I heard. I think. That's what I've been told. I'm also like doing it with you so wouldn't that make me in trouble too? No, because you're the one like the victim I guess. Technically technically. How am I the victim if I'm okay with it? Because your brain is not fully developed you know it's like taking advantage of you in a sense. I think it's okay. Because it can be our secret. It can be our secret.

1:36:35Michael Schlep:Really?

1:36:36Shawn Ryan:Yeah.

1:36:38Michael Schlep:I'm so excited.

1:36:39Shawn Ryan:Yeah.

1:36:40Michael Schlep:I'm gonna sleep now.

1:36:41Shawn Ryan:Yeah, I'm going to see you. Good night.

1:36:44Michael Schlep:Good night.

1:36:45Shawn Ryan:Bye-bye.

1:36:46Michael Schlep:Bye. Yeah.

1:36:53Michael Schlep:That's just a few of the predators that we've caught. And you would be surprised to hear what Roblox's response to these child predators were. We send Roblox, I think it was after the first or second one. I created an account specifically for sending Roblox. It was called Schlepp Arrests. And I put that out on Twitter. I'm like, this is the account I'm going to be sending these reports to Roblox on. And we would send them the exact same Google Drives we were sending to the authorities. It contained everything, I believe just outside of our IDs and stuff like that. And it had every chat log in it.

1:37:38Michael Schlep:We would actually go as far as to screen record us on mobile, scrolling through all the chats. You know, we do everything law enforcement asks us. And that was all given to Roblox. In numerous occasions, they did not take these predators off of the platform until after I released my video. It got so bad. I had to create a binder, a literal binder, and send it to their head recorders in San Mateo just on the off chance. Maybe an employee at this company would see it. And I would send them emails saying, this is why I do it. I was groomed. I was victimized. And I, you know, I'm still dealing with the harassment from this child predator.

1:38:18Michael Schlep:And I just want to help kids. And they, they, they, they never cared. They, I, they never showed, I never got a real message from anybody at Roblox until I think it was August 8th. That was a cease and desist letter. And they banned not only my Schlepp account, but my account where I was making normal Roblox gaming videos. Just innocent kid-friendly content. They weren't even mixed in the slightest. They specifically targeted that as well. What the fuck? They saw those arrests and said, I was creating more of a problem to the platform than the child predators hurting the kids on the site.

1:39:07Shawn Ryan:Where did they say that? They said that to you?

1:39:10Michael Schlep:I'll read the cease and desist letter for you.

1:39:15Shawn Ryan:Can we get a copy of that cease and desist? Absolutely.

1:39:20Michael Schlep:Okay, here's the email. Legal cease and desist letter from Roblox. And like, this is their attorney, Tony Wabel, who's also sent, this is an... And by the way, I'm not the first person that they've silenced. Tony Wable, he represented Roblox in a lawsuit against another creator named Ruben Sim, who I'll get to in a second.

1:39:47Michael Schlep:So here it is. Legal cease and desist notice from Roblox. And this has my full legal name on here. We write on behalf of the Roblox Corporation. This letter serves as a formal cease and desist notice regarding your unauthorized harmful activities on the Roblox platform. six arrests, two convictions. That's harmful to Roblox. Roblox thinks that's harmful. Just remember that. Your actions are not only a violation of Roblox's policies and directly undermine Roblox's safety efforts and critically are exposing users to increased risk. Don't you think having these child predators within your community is exposing them to increased risk?

1:40:32Michael Schlep:Don't you think that these people could have potentially gone ahead, victimized someone on the platform, could have been one of your lawsuits that could have been filed against you. I was stopping that from happening. I mean, that's just so crazy to even think. And this is what it says. Those actions include engaging in simulated child endangerment conversations. So what, should an actual child have to go through that? Should we put actual children? Is that what Roblox, it'd be It's okay if it's an actual child. That's what they're saying. That's how that reads. Sharing or soliciting personally identifiable information, and this comes from, like, we would say our age on Roblox.

1:41:16Michael Schlep:That's what they're claiming, you know? You know, when you sign up to Roblox, you agree to a 70-page-plus legalese, you know, and that's one of the things on there. Directing users to move conversation off platforms. This is the one I find the most dumb in all of it, considering Roblox is... The only other platform we used was Discord. Discord is linked on... Like, you can put your Discord right underneath your game and join it. Like, it is directly linked. Like, it makes no sense. They're affiliated with Discord. How can you say we were... Like, it didn't even make sense. It's not even... That's fucking insanity.

1:41:59Michael Schlep:That is actual insanity. It is. Now, here's the best part. It... Roblox is committed to aggressively combating illegal and harmful conduct. Okay.

1:42:11Shawn Ryan:Sure seems like it.

1:42:12Michael Schlep:Including child exploitation through, you know, it talks about how they do stuff with NECMEC. Roblox maintains direct channels with NECMEC, like the FBI. While Roblox acknowledges that your stated intention may be to protect children. No, it wasn't May, Roblox. It was, I fucking did. I did. I got two predators on your platform convicted. And I was getting emails from kids saying that their abuser was now behind bars. And while it recognizes that the serious nature of online predatory behavior, your methods include failing to report suspicious activity to Roblox through proper channels. We just covered that.

1:42:55Michael Schlep:They fucking ignored you. They never once contacted me, hey, this is a line at the company. If you have a predator, send it to us. We'll ban them right away. I would have used that instantly. I actually went as far as to say Roblox. I'm willing to keep most of my videos and stuff private, a lot of the stuff. I'm willing to even, I said at one point, I would sign any contract that this company gave me. I said that. I said I'd sign any contract if it means I could help kids.

1:43:25Michael Schlep:Unbelievable. And I reported their stuff directly through their outlets. I was reporting through their roblox.com support. I would put the same account, and they weren't looking at it until after we would release these videos. It's crazy to even consider that. They actually were so weird about it. They would make us jump through so many hurdles. For instance, they were like, we can't accept a Google Drive containing all the evidence. Can you upload it to YouTube video? So I did. Created a whole YouTube video for them. You know, scrolling through all the chats, them showing up in person, send it to them.

1:44:07Nothing.

1:44:07Michael Schlep:And what bothers me so much about that is that if we were getting that, where we documented every ounce of evidence and provided that to this company, what if you actually get groomed on this platform like I did when I was a kid. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. According to accordingly and pursuant with Roblox's policies, Roblox will be permanently closing your accounts. Please note that Roblox community standards prohibits opening new accounts to evade an enforcement action. Therefore, we demand that you cease and desist from accessing the Roblox platform. Please be advised Roblox preserves all right to take any and all legal action against you should you violate the roblox community standards continue such as but not limited to a breach of contract um they're saying that they'll sue me for computer fraud if i touch roblox again can you believe that unfortunately yes why not get my abuser and actually sue him

1:45:13Shawn Ryan:for for computer fraud for this isn't about saving kids this is exactly fucking money exactly all this is. Same with CannaCook. Same with all this shit. Same with the Epstein files. It's about power. Exactly. They don't want to lose it.

1:45:31Michael Schlep:I will say one thing I find interesting, bring up CannaCook, is that the same exact stuff that was mentioned where they're making children sign NDAs. I mean, that's what Roblox is trying to do with their forced arbitration, where they are trying to move these lawsuits like that lawsuit I showed you of that 10-year-old who was brutally assaulted by five people. They're trying to move that into an arbitration where it's behind closed doors. When you create an account, you're signing away all of that. That's what they're arguing. But a judge has already ruled that they can't do that. But that's how far that they're willing to go.

1:46:12Michael Schlep:It's unbelievable, unbelievable. For a company that cares so much, in their arbitration clause, it actually states that as a victim, you can only get$1 ,000 worth of damages out of the company if you're abused. So your life-altering trauma, abuse, your child goes missing i can't believe they haven't even made a fucking tip line

1:46:41Shawn Ryan:yep you got a predator email them here they don't even have that they have a report button but it doesn't work a report button specifically for sexual abuse and exploitation or just a fucking

1:46:54Michael Schlep:report button they they have um something only for europeans it's called the digital online safety act which roblox was legally forced to so it was a fucking legal thing they had to do it oh

1:47:04Shawn Ryan:yeah yeah absolutely well they don't do that kind of stuff here in america yeah that's why we're the number one fucking consumer of kitty and child trafficking that's us that's the united states i i have no idea and then you look at like how they're handling this epstein shit and you go Oh, no fucking wonder. Yep, exactly. We want to protect pedophiles, not prosecute them. We'd like to protect them. Yep. What the fuck? And then the last administration, there was all this shit going on about maps. Oh, they're not pedophiles. They're maps. What the fuck is a map? Oh, that's a minor attracted person.

1:47:47Shawn Ryan:Oh, what the fuck did you just say? A fucking map? A minor attracted person? One, that's not a fucking person, okay? That's not a fucking person. And being attracted and fucking abusing and exploiting minors is not fucking okay. Not okay. But our fucking government, right and left, is trying to normalize this shit. It's fucking insane. I gotta take a fucking break. Yeah. It's fucking crazy.

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1:51:00Shawn Ryan:Yeah, does anybody do the right fucking thing?

1:51:05Michael Schlep:I wish. I wish people cared about kids at these companies as much as I do. I know they'd be a lot more of a safer platform. I really would. I mean, it's kind of crazy to even think about it, because, like, a lot of these executives, like, they're parents. Like, they have kids. and I really wonder if they would let their kids even interact with the websites that they're creating.

1:51:33Shawn Ryan:Last time I did something like this, it was with Ryan Montgomery, and I didn't, it's not that I didn't believe him, but I needed to prove to myself how bad this shit actually was. So I told him, going to any chat forum, any social media platform, I don't really give a shit what it is. I got nothing but time, so I'll sit here for a fucking week if I have to. It took five seconds.

1:51:59Michael Schlep:What you're going to see is something that journalists, that the media has failed to document properly for a better part of half a decade now. I mean, it is some of the most vile stuff. You are going to be, this is on a kid's game. I mean, that's... it's going to blow your mind.

1:52:24Shawn Ryan:Let's do it.

1:52:26Michael Schlep:So, as you know, I have my cease and desist from Roblox, so I cannot make the account. So you're going to have to put all your information in, just make sure it's set to... yeah. So what you're about to agree to is 77 pages worth of legalese. if you get groomed, exploited, anything, they think they have the right to force you into a concealed arbitration. How many pages? I believe it's 77. It's in the 70s range. I know that. Yeah, and they think kids, they're trying to enforce this for kids.

1:53:02Shawn Ryan:Let's just see what, yeah.

1:53:04Michael Schlep:Yeah. I mean, this is what you're agreeing to, all of this.

1:53:07Shawn Ryan:Can I accept?

1:53:08Michael Schlep:Yeah, go for it. All those little hyperlinks. Just, I mean, you barely even scratch it.

1:53:14Shawn Ryan:Are you under 13?

1:53:16Michael Schlep:Yeah. Like, a kid's gonna read this? Yeah.

1:53:19Shawn Ryan:Look at this shit.

1:53:20Michael Schlep:This is what they think is enforceable for kids. All of this.

1:53:23Shawn Ryan:It probably is fucking enforceable.

1:53:27Michael Schlep:Judges have ruled, at least as far as I'm aware, that this isn't enforceable, but...

1:53:31Shawn Ryan:Oh, and then you download all this shit?

1:53:33Michael Schlep:Yeah, you can download copies. I mean, it's like, what child is gonna read... What child even knows what they're doing here, you know? Yep, there you go. Well, that's on their privacy page. I mean, this is what you're agreeing to.

1:53:47Shawn Ryan:34 pages. Oh, wait.

1:53:50Michael Schlep:Yeah. Here, let me get up the game for you to play real quick. Okay. One second. Hello.

1:54:01Shawn Ryan:What's going on, dude? I was just trying to make BFFs with Ted Cruz, as you called. Oh, really? Because Slep told me that you're interrupting our interview.

1:54:24Shawn Ryan:yeah we're recording right now just so you know

1:54:30Shawn Ryan:yeah i saw that too dude well i was doing a lot better this morning before i talked to schlep about all this fucking roadblock shit. Dude.

1:54:42Michael Schlep:Yeah, roadblocks is a cesspool for sure. Yeah, pretty bad.

1:54:47Shawn Ryan:This is fucking... It's even worse than what you were saying. This is fucking horrible, man. Horrible.

1:54:56Michael Schlep:That's the thing you're going to get with Schlepp. I mean, I'm sure you've heard some of his story, and I don't want to spoil any of the parts that he might not have thrown, right? He's made, focused on knowledge, investigating Roblox, and he has the chat logs, the conversations off of the game itself where they lure children. And, you know, that obviously, like, what you and I talked about, 764, and we're...

1:55:25Shawn Ryan:You're breaking up. Let me get some service.

1:55:35Shawn Ryan:I can't hear a damn thing you're saying. There we go. There we go. Yeah. Yeah.

1:55:50Shawn Ryan:You're breaking up again. You're breaking up again. I'm going to let you go. If you can hear me, we're getting ready to. oh perfect we're getting ready to we're getting ready to name his fucking abuser his abuser's never been named we're we out well we are my attorney's working on it we're gonna name his fucking abuser and probably put his picture up you got that

1:56:18Shawn Ryan:we're gonna blast it everywhere yeah i fucking hate these people i hate these people all right Hey, we all gotta get together and talk about that thing we're gonna do to save kids

1:56:33Shawn Ryan:Alright, love you dude later

1:56:42Michael Schlep:I'm gonna start the recording on my end. Alright, here we go. Alright, so the first game I have for you is called a Sandy experience This is a hyper-realistic recreation of the Sandy Hook shooting. What?

1:56:57Shawn Ryan:This is a fucking game? Yeah. The Sandy Hook shooting is a game on a Roblox, which is...

1:57:04Michael Schlep:You're gonna be free.

1:57:06Shawn Ryan:What do I do, just hit play?

1:57:08Michael Schlep:Just hit play. It's nine and up. Anyone nine and up to play this?

1:57:14Shawn Ryan:Nine years old. Nine years old are able to play Roblox Sandy Hook. this is fucking crazy yeah i know they're recreating it is a school shooting too and

1:57:27Michael Schlep:and it's i will show you how realistic they got all right so yeah this is sandy hook on roblox out of here yeah so you can hit play right there so you hit so you can dress up as a shooter that's what he wore when he killed those kids um you can just hit something i I guess this isn't loading right now properly. Okay, so this is his classroom. Look at the fucking blood on the wall. Yeah, that's the mom. He killed his mom. He killed his mom? Yeah, when he started it. So that's supposed to be his mom. So to walk around, you press...

1:57:59Shawn Ryan:So you pick what gun you want to use?

1:58:01Michael Schlep:Yeah, to walk around, you press W, A, S, and D on your keyboard. So yeah.

1:58:06Shawn Ryan:What does this do? Oh, you block with it?

1:58:08Michael Schlep:Yeah, and then on the other side, you can...

1:58:10Shawn Ryan:So hold on. they have a Glock, a SIG, and a Bushmaster.

1:58:16Michael Schlep:Pretty sure those are the guns he used.

1:58:17Shawn Ryan:I mean, can these gun manif - I mean -

1:58:22Michael Schlep:Actually, Glock did file something against Roblox. Game developers aren't supposed to be using that.

1:58:27Shawn Ryan:Yeah, I'm gonna call - I mean, I got a great - I got a buddy over at SIG. His name is Jason. He's the VP of marketing. I'm gonna have to call him right now and be like, Hey dude, are you aware that these fucking people are doing this shit? How do you get out of here? Looks like it bugged you out.

1:58:44Michael Schlep:Here, wait. So you can move your camera with this thing right here. You see this right here. So you can, and then just rotate it. So hold down and rotate. Oh. Okay, so yeah. That's how you move. Oh.

1:58:59Shawn Ryan:I'm not right.

1:59:00Michael Schlep:Okay.

1:59:01Shawn Ryan:All right, how the fuck do I do?

1:59:03Michael Schlep:Okay, walk backwards. So press S.

1:59:10Michael Schlep:Should be... yeah, there you go. Okay. Now walk towards it again. Should... and then press E. Okay. So now just walk into there. Oh.

1:59:21Shawn Ryan:We might have to get a gamer in here.

1:59:23Michael Schlep:Yeah.

1:59:24Shawn Ryan:Darren! Alright. You know how to play this shit?

1:59:30Michael Schlep:Yeah.

1:59:30Shawn Ryan:Do you mind being on camera? Alright. Which one is this? The shooter?

1:59:36Michael Schlep:Uh, yeah. So just press E on that door. and then just walk inside.

1:59:44Shawn Ryan:Did you hear what this shit is? Yeah. It's the Sandy Hook fucking shooting. Yeah, I gotta get back. Hey, let's make a video game where we go and kill a bunch of fucking kids that actually happened in real life. Yeah.

1:59:57Michael Schlep:Every -

1:59:58Shawn Ryan:Fuck, could you imagine being a fucking kid that was at that school or a parent of one of the kids that fucking was killed? How am I rotating? There we go. The rotate wasn't working.

2:00:06Michael Schlep:So yeah, I just -

2:00:07Shawn Ryan:Yeah. So what do you do? Just run around from -

2:00:10Michael Schlep:You'll see it - so go here, wait, walk backwards. You see that staircase? Walk into that staircase to the left. Okay. Just press. Yeah. So this is at the school, that's a cult - I mean, you've seen the footage - Holy shit!

2:00:25Shawn Ryan:It says Sandy Hook Elementary School.

2:00:26Michael Schlep:So how you start this game is you shoot through the window like how you - the Sandy Hook shooter did it. Someone's already in here so you can hear the - the alarms going on.

2:00:39Michael Schlep:I think that's the window right there. You have to shoot. This one? No, to the right.

2:00:45Shawn Ryan:Wait, you said nine-year-olds?

2:00:48Michael Schlep:Nine-year-olds can play this.

2:00:49Shawn Ryan:I thought we just signed something saying we were 13.

2:00:53Michael Schlep:No, any age can pretty much play a little block. There we go. Make a left first.

2:01:04Shawn Ryan:This is awful. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah. Are those innocent people?

2:01:09Michael Schlep:They have their actual names of victims. Above their head. You get a leaderboard.

2:01:16Shawn Ryan:Oh my god, dude. What in the fuck is this shit?

2:01:20Michael Schlep:See that police come in there?

2:01:27Shawn Ryan:So you could probably, you know, shoot the kids?

2:01:30Michael Schlep:I mean, shoot someone just to show, like, what it does. Oh, that's...

2:01:33Shawn Ryan:Somebody may shoot this person.

2:01:34Michael Schlep:Press R. and then you gotta reload

2:01:46Michael Schlep:hold on I don't know maybe it's not working yeah

2:01:58Shawn Ryan:see how they have blood splatter on them

2:02:01Michael Schlep:there's a room

2:02:03Shawn Ryan:they got the springs

2:02:04Michael Schlep:Yeah.

2:02:05Shawn Ryan:Yeah, no can't use this. They have the actual room - Dude, who the fuck puts their kids on this shit? Seriously.

2:02:14Michael Schlep:They have the actual room, a bunch of kids were in a bathroom, and uh, the teachers got them in there, and a guy came in and mowed all these kids down. They - they had the actual room of that in this game.

2:02:25Shawn Ryan:Are you serious? Yes. Yeah. I think they have the Uvalde game on here, too.

2:02:30Michael Schlep:Yeah, I - I have that one a little bit, too. If you wanna press escape and uh, reset your character to respawn. And it hits, yeah. So, check this.

2:02:45Michael Schlep:It says the exact names of the victim. Your victims. Like, it's like a leaderboard. Holy shit, dude. They have the actual names too.

2:02:54Shawn Ryan:So, Stephanie Adams was a victim that was killed at Sandy Hook?

2:02:58Michael Schlep:I'm not exactly sure but I know they have other names that are the actual victims Yeah, that one's that one's pretty bad.

2:03:05Shawn Ryan:Where are we going now hit escape? Yeah, and hit leave

2:03:14Okay

2:03:17Shawn Ryan:And there are some sick fucking people this X yeah, and then go to

2:03:21Michael Schlep:There this yeah hit the Rob the bank one see that one at the top So this is the Uvalde school shooting. The maturity is set to minimal. So I believe that means any age can play this. Like, any age on the entire site can play this recreation of the Uvalde school massacre. Okay. Yeah, you can hit play. So this is Rob, you can see there. So this is the actual shooter.

2:03:48Shawn Ryan:Unlock, can we unlock the chat?

2:03:50Michael Schlep:Uh, there's nobody else chatting.

2:03:51Shawn Ryan:Oh.

2:03:56Michael Schlep:So, I mean, you've seen the security cam footage. The kid walks through this door here. I believe he starts shooting at some kid. And then he makes a right.

2:04:09Shawn Ryan:Holy shit.

2:04:10Michael Schlep:And then there was two classrooms where this guy mowed down, I think it was 22 children. And he wrote LOL in their blood? That's in this game. Like down to that level of detail, yeah. So, yeah. I hate to say this, but if you want to show what actually ends up happening, you can... Look at that.

2:04:31Shawn Ryan:Look at that. There it is. Where? That's a Daniel defense.

2:04:34Michael Schlep:Yeah. Ah. Yeah, so just shoot someone. You'll see how... See their legs are coming off? Oh my god. You can see their eyeballs get squirted out of their pen.

2:04:48Michael Schlep:Yeah, look at that.

2:04:53Michael Schlep:Now, would it surprise you, Sean, if I told you that shooters are referencing Roblox in their manifestos?

2:05:01Shawn Ryan:No, because it's a fucking legacy for them. It's, if I do this, my name will live forever on Roblox.

2:05:12Michael Schlep:Yeah.

2:05:12Shawn Ryan:There's an Epstein Island one, too?

2:05:14Michael Schlep:Yeah.

2:05:15Shawn Ryan:Do you have that one?

2:05:16Michael Schlep:I have a video of it.

2:05:17Shawn Ryan:What does that one do?

2:05:19Michael Schlep:Um, it's a - What do you go in there and like? There's actually a lot of different variants. There's some that are like simulator games. There's some that are like war games. Uh, do the carbine one. So this is Columbine on Roblox.

2:05:34Shawn Ryan:So they have like - Every single - Do they have Covenant from here in Nashville?

2:05:39Michael Schlep:I - yeah, yep. Holy shit. I saw that one. Yep.

2:05:45Michael Schlep:Like they even watch it. Oh wait, it's not this game. Yeah, you can equip your inventory of pipe bombs the same guns You can dress up as a shooter Yeah, okay, so you just select your stuff just use a gun. Yeah

2:06:11Michael Schlep:and then you can also you can be either eric or uh don't clue bold there's actually a lot more on there so ramos i believe that was the one for the uh which one was that that was uvaldi i think so you can be in paddock yeah these are all the different other nicholas cruz

2:06:33Michael Schlep:so yeah there's a Columbine school right there

2:06:43Michael Schlep:this is like where you enter this is insane man I some other people are playing I guess oh yeah

2:06:56Shawn Ryan:yeah i guess i got kill yourself or kill all the swat that's what it just said kill yourself or kill all the swat it's it's it's this is almost like predictive programming

2:07:07Michael Schlep:shit for kids oh yeah i mean this is what kids are getting exposed maybe it is predictive programming mm-hmm yes your point is uh kill yourself or kill all the cops i mean it's

2:07:21Shawn Ryan:This is fucking crazy. Did I not choose a weapon?

2:07:27Michael Schlep:I think it might be broken because there's another person in the lobby, but you can walk around the map to see. You just run away from me.

2:07:33Shawn Ryan:Yeah, they're already trying to shoot me.

2:07:35Michael Schlep:Yeah, just try to get in the screw.

2:07:40Yeah.

2:07:41Michael Schlep:Oh, man.

2:07:41Shawn Ryan:There it goes again. Kill yourself or kill all the slot. Yeah. Man, this is sick.

2:07:47Michael Schlep:Yes, this is the entrance into Columbine.

2:07:52Shawn Ryan:Alright, we got all the school shooting shit. Yeah. Is it all like this? Is there any normal shit? How long is it gonna take for the 764 colt or a predator to get to me?

2:08:06Michael Schlep:Let's see, so search up in the -

2:08:08Shawn Ryan:But they can see the age, and I think I said I was born and like -

2:08:11Michael Schlep:Put dollhouse in?

2:08:12Shawn Ryan:Of course, they don't fucking know that. I guess all the kids are probably lying on their age.

2:08:16Michael Schlep:Yeah. A lot of kids do.

2:08:19Shawn Ryan:Which one?

2:08:19Michael Schlep:Just hit search on that. Should be one. Let me see.

2:08:28Shawn Ryan:I mean, if they have all this, if they have all of, if they have recreated some of the most horrific, tragic events in recent American history. I mean, it's a key chord RP Dollhouse. Is there a shit on here too? Huh?

2:08:47Michael Schlep:Oh, yeah. Oh, totally. There's so much stuff on the platform. Search up Meet V. I think that's the name of it. M-E-E-T? Yeah. And then V, yeah. Okay, and then just hit play on that. The game next to it is a Tinder game on Roblox. They have Tinder on Roblox. Yeah, so just hit start. So we got someone messaging us. Just here, you can... Already? Oh, well, you know what Omegle is? Yeah. It's functionally the same exact game, so just... Click start? Yeah, just click start. Actually, someone's trying to add you. Just hit accept on that. He's probably going to try to send a message. But you can just keep hitting start until we...

2:09:32Michael Schlep:Mr. Spag.

2:09:36Okay.

2:09:43Michael Schlep:Skipping us. Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay.

2:09:51Shawn Ryan:This is basically like chat roulette.

2:09:53Michael Schlep:Yeah, this is chat roulette. You'll have someone asking something. Just say hi back.

2:10:01Michael Schlep:Say, what are you doing? Oh, you freaky. Do you see that? Are you fucking serious, dude? Yeah, you freaky. Yeah, he's wanting me to...

2:10:09Shawn Ryan:Are you fucking serious? That was like five seconds again. Say yes. There it is. The time. Say yes.

2:10:15Michael Schlep:Yeah, just say yes and see what he wants to do.

2:10:17Shawn Ryan:That was like 20 seconds.

2:10:19Michael Schlep:Yeah, 20 seconds was on the time. That's how long it took. Are you actually...

2:10:29Michael Schlep:Let's just see what he's going to say. He's probably going to try to get us on either Snapchat or Discord. He's trying to add us. Should I add him? No, I wouldn't add him. How do you see? You can just skip him, honestly. You can just see...

2:10:42Shawn Ryan:It's already there. It's already fucking there.

2:10:45Michael Schlep:mm-hmm the you just skip this guy oh my gosh that was like the first first guy this guy this is what this is what people are wanting to do to your kids on this game yeah hi

2:11:00Shawn Ryan:one question okay no fucking way what do you think is question are you are you freaky you just say it yeah holy shit are you fucking kidding me dude yep and then he's gonna be like you want

2:11:13Michael Schlep:to talk on on snapchat we're recording this shit right yeah yeah

2:11:23Michael Schlep:do you got the sound of clock so he's talking tiktok we can talk on tiktok so he's trying to get yeah imagine a kid imagine a kid plays this you want to know what's crazy the chief safety officer had a badge on his account hold on tell one of these

2:11:38Shawn Ryan:motherfuckers you're the police okay i just want to see what happens

2:11:54Michael Schlep:How are you? See, maybe a normal conversation. Maybe. Maybe.

2:12:05Shawn Ryan:These are like... This is going to go somewhere.

2:12:08Michael Schlep:You can tell.

2:12:09Shawn Ryan:I'm doing great as well. How's Roblox today? Just getting started.

2:12:13Michael Schlep:That sounds like... What a predator, what do I... I mean, like, that's...

2:12:17Shawn Ryan:Just give it a second.

2:12:23Michael Schlep:Say, I'm just chilling. I'm bored. I'm bored. That's usually, like, their go-to move. And they'll be like... Oh.

2:12:34Shawn Ryan:Oh, here we go. Oh, my God, yes. I'm bored, too.

2:12:38Michael Schlep:I'll see.

2:12:39Shawn Ryan:no fucking way dude every single fucking person on here

2:12:45Michael Schlep:yep say what are you doing right now

2:12:59hmm

2:13:02Michael Schlep:usually these conversations they get somewhere

2:13:04Shawn Ryan:yeah you can tell there's no reason he's fishing or somebody's fishing.

2:13:17Michael Schlep:Oh, talking about how the conversation is dry. So you can see where they're going for it. Say, what would make the conversation interesting?

2:13:30Michael Schlep:There we go.

2:13:38Michael Schlep:Yeah, I mean, they're literally just trying to fix something out of you.

2:13:43Shawn Ryan:Go to another one. Wait, what's... Holy shit, dude. So that's what? I guess that's a... Oh, here you go.

2:13:52Michael Schlep:This is going to be someone... Oh. You can tell when their avatars look like that, they're specifically there to do stuff. Like, it's nine times out of ten. Because it's like a fresh account.

2:14:07Michael Schlep:xxxx you see that i mean just look at the usernames chat in lovers six seven six seven it's your favorite ron i mean these are it's crazy

2:14:26Michael Schlep:see is he gonna say anything

2:14:31Michael Schlep:male or female female yeah

2:14:42Michael Schlep:how old are you oh my god dude

2:14:44Shawn Ryan:should I just say I'm like 10 or 12

2:14:46Michael Schlep:I wouldn't say that because this is what they put in their cease and desist letter yeah I'm 17 yeah okay

2:14:57Shawn Ryan:I don't know what to say to that.

2:14:58Michael Schlep:I mean, I think pretty much that gets the point across all these.

2:15:02Shawn Ryan:Yeah.

2:15:03Michael Schlep:Isn't that insane?

2:15:04Shawn Ryan:They're not 17, I fucking guarantee you that. Mm-hmm.

2:15:08Michael Schlep:These are how many literally grooming cases start. We actually almost caught them up.

2:15:12Shawn Ryan:Dude, it's every single fucking person.

2:15:15Michael Schlep:Mm-hmm. We did a test and we found it was 40, no, I think it was 30 % of users in this game are looking to do, break the rules of Roblox.

2:15:26Shawn Ryan:He's back.

2:15:27Michael Schlep:Yeah.

2:15:37Michael Schlep:Say why. Let's ask him why. Yeah. Roblox says this is impossible for people to share. Personally, I'd end up follow info. Are you in the mood? Oh, yeah. I wonder. I really wonder. Kind of.

2:15:59Michael Schlep:Oh, scared him.

2:16:01Shawn Ryan:Yeah, I mean, that's crazy. Holy shit, dude. Every single fucking person we've chatted with is eluding.

2:16:13Michael Schlep:That game has 122 people. Play this game here, Friendly.

2:16:17Shawn Ryan:Okay.

2:16:17Michael Schlep:This game is Tinder on Roblox. It is literally Tinder on Roblox.

2:16:25Shawn Ryan:Do I need to select any of these?

2:16:27Michael Schlep:Yeah, just select. Yeah, you just have to make a quick profile. Just select something. Okay, so you can just see like, dislike. It's literally, I mean, this is Tinder. I mean, this is actually just Tinder. And when you match with someone, you get a private chat with them. Okay, so should I match each one? Yeah, you can just match people. See who ends up messaging us. So you'll see some, it'll pop up. So just keep liking them. I'll tell you when to stop. Okay.

2:16:56Michael Schlep:I mean, these avatars, when they're dressed like that, they are... There's a whole thing on Roblox with race play. It's crazy to even say that.

2:17:06Shawn Ryan:What do you mean?

2:17:07Michael Schlep:What? I think it's the Black New World Order. There's a whole thing on... Like, they dress up like that and they call themselves bulls. It's... It's insane. And they're looking for snow bunnies. yeah it's it's great i can't even yeah

2:17:28Michael Schlep:take a look at their avatars usually they have something on them so that one's panda yeah that one's fine but usually there's like i'll say like i'm dominant or something so that's fine

2:17:42Shawn Ryan:and so what's the point of this do these people like meet up in real life

2:17:45Michael Schlep:what is this it's tinder so you see that that was yeah that was definitely something yeah so pretty much are these people all online too when they like you you get put in a private it's literally tinder like it is functionally the same as tinder i'm not a tinderer okay yeah it's the same thing like or dislike that's that's tinder and then when you both match you get in a private chat so i'm i'm hard holy shit uh-huh and how old do you have to be to access this specific game let's see um if you go to the thing i can see it like the game page on uh like over on this oh well i i think oh when you exit out i can tell you okay somebody gonna match us you think or i don't know it it usually doesn't take long

2:18:35Shawn Ryan:I'm what does that say when you run murderhawk mm-hmm it's more fun when you run I mean to think that your kids could be playing a tinder game on this site it's advertised safest dude just just think if I would have just what did I put my screen name as just think if we would have put like i don't know vanessa 13.

2:18:59Michael Schlep:oh dude you would you would be getting so many messages there's one last uh game i think i want him to see uh this one last shooter game i think this one's really bad you should probably see this so you remember the christ church shooting that happened in new zealand your hit x on that so you click that so this is the christ church shooting on Roblox, built identical to the real-life one. And on March 2019, you armed Righteous Fury and Arsenal Vengeance, pretty much the mosque, live-streamed your crusade to purge invaders. You can hear... That's the actual shooter. That's the audio from the shooter.

2:19:46Shawn Ryan:It didn't even have this music playing in his car on the way or something? Yeah. This is fucking crazy. Yeah. It's... Active shooter events that are now video games that are telling you to kill yourself or all the cops.

2:20:00Michael Schlep:Yep.

2:20:01Shawn Ryan:Then we go into that one thing and we have what, like... Shopper. Four or five people?

2:20:06Michael Schlep:Yeah, it's like, you know, there wasn't one instance...

2:20:08Shawn Ryan:Some of them, like, right off the bat.

2:20:09Michael Schlep:It wasn't one instance. It was multiple upon multiple upon multiple. So, yeah.

2:20:15Shawn Ryan:This is fucking crazy, dude.

2:20:17Michael Schlep:It's unbelievable how this game will advertise itself safe to parents and platform this. It's laughably insane. That is so crazy.

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2:22:08Shawn Ryan:I just I don't even know what to say to that I mean It's I

2:22:14Michael Schlep:It's crazy It's absolutely nuts I mean this platform is advertising Safe to parents I mean that should be false advertising Like how can you be a safe game for parents And have Sandy Hook A literal

2:22:30Shawn Ryan:Sandy Hook, Columbine, Udallvi You said

2:22:34Michael Schlep:There was a Pulse nightclub one, which I didn't show. The Buffalo shooter. Actually, I'll show you that one right now.

2:22:39Shawn Ryan:So pretty much everything. The Charlie Kirk stuff.

2:22:42Michael Schlep:Yeah.

2:22:43Shawn Ryan:Exploitation.

2:22:45Michael Schlep:Whatever you can think of.

2:22:46Shawn Ryan:Luring kids out of the game and kidnapping them. And the 10-year-old that was by five different men.

2:22:54Michael Schlep:Yeah. What the fuck, man?

2:22:57Shawn Ryan:This is the shit that parents need to know.

2:23:00Michael Schlep:Yeah.

2:23:00Shawn Ryan:But I mean, honestly, how long does it take, let's say, how many games are on there?

2:23:08Michael Schlep:Millions.

2:23:08Shawn Ryan:Millions? Yeah. How long do you think it takes just an eight-year-old to run into something?

2:23:14Michael Schlep:Well, I can show you this. I think out of everything I'm going to show you today, this will probably be the most important. Because it's anecdotal, but it'll put an actual, kind of in your head, an actual number on this.

2:23:30Shawn Ryan:This here, I'll show you this.

2:23:32Michael Schlep:So this here is someone who is a founder of a child safety organization. She goes into a classroom and you'll see what she asks the kids.

2:23:59Shawn Ryan:be their boyfriend or girlfriend who's had that happen put your hand up for me you're not the trouble just half the kids raise their hand who's been offered free robux to do something that was inappropriate in the game or someone has look at that if you come and follow me on snapchat or tick tock or something like that who's had that happen Okay.

2:24:25Michael Schlep:Look at how many kids in this classroom are raising their hands. I... Is that not unbelievable? I mean, that shows the true scale. Yeah, I just...

2:24:37Shawn Ryan:I can't... I can't... I mean, we just fucking saw it.

2:24:42Michael Schlep:Our own... I was able to...

2:24:43Shawn Ryan:I mean, it was...

2:24:44Michael Schlep:You pulled it up within a second.

2:24:45Shawn Ryan:20 seconds. Yeah. We had somebody chatting.

2:24:48Michael Schlep:Uh-huh. Yeah.

2:24:49Shawn Ryan:How old are you? Or whatever they said. How old... You wanna get freaky? Yeah, do you want to get this? Two different people said that.

2:24:56Michael Schlep:Yep. Yep. I mean, that's how it starts. Within the, I mean... Wow, dude. I mean, that's how massive and widespread this problem is. I mean, that's... I've never seen anything like this on the internet. I mean, that's... You know, for instance, the game that you showed, or I showed, where people are saying, you're freaky, all that, that is based on a social media platform called Omegle, which was sued out of existence for child exploitation. It was in their settlement terms that they had to shut down Omegle because of a child abuse lawsuit. And that is... It's uncomprehendable how they could even platform something like that.

2:25:49Shawn Ryan:I'm so fucking pissed I can't even fucking think right now. Yeah.

2:25:54Michael Schlep:I mean, it is so crazy. Parents need to take their kids off of this game. I mean, I showed a classroom. It is 100 % your child has seen something, at minimum. I've talked to so many kids. They'll tell me, like, oh, I was just playing and I saw this and I saw that. my email is 90 % kids, hey, I saw this inappropriate thing, can you do something about it? That is most of my emails. From kids.

2:26:34Michael Schlep:This stuff goes much beyond just predators. It's extremist groups. Here's one thing I think you'll find interesting. So the Buffalo shooting that happened in New York, that shooter specifically cited two Roblox games and said, I'm just saying I probably wouldn't be as nationalistic if it weren't for Blood and Iron on Roblox. I mean, he cited... That is in the manifesto of the Buffalo shooter. And guess what? They've recreated his shooting on Roblox in graphic detail. you can see here you load in dude why what the fuck you know why would you allow this shit you remember it was live streamed so they it was at this top store um it was uh he was targeting black people and the first girl that he killed that little pan right there that's the first girl he killed.

2:27:35Shawn Ryan:Holy shit.

2:27:37Michael Schlep:Yep. And then. Yeah. And it's crazy. It has the whole story. See his gun had that writing.

2:27:47Shawn Ryan:How the fuck is Ro Khanna the first and only fucking congressman and probably nobody in the Senate and probably nobody in the administration has done a fucking thing about this shit. What the fuck, man? What does that tell you about our fucking politicians? Holy shit.

2:28:10Michael Schlep:I don't know.

2:28:11Shawn Ryan:Like, how the fuck can you allow this shit to go on? It's crazy. What the fuck, man? What the fuck?

2:28:19Michael Schlep:See this security guard? That's a real security guard who was shot and murdered that day. It has his name. There's a fucking picture just came up. Well, this is in the video, but that's him. They put on Roblox of him. It has his name right there and everything. And in the mass shooting...

2:28:38Shawn Ryan:Are you serious?

2:28:39Michael Schlep:In the mass shooting, there was a guy who was white, and the shooter said something like, oh, you're white, I'm sorry, and didn't murder him. And this says right here... Let me see. What does he say? Oh, he's white, don't shoot. That's what it's right above where that person was. Are you serious? That's how realistic. And I think it's crazy. This shooting sighted Roblox. It sighted Roblox within it. Had it in the manifesto. I mean, that's unbelievable. I mean, the writings on his gun, like this is his actual gun. It's in the game on Roblox. Like they've modeled it down to the writing on his gun.

2:29:27Shawn Ryan:So they make it as realistic and as accurate as possible.

2:29:32Michael Schlep:Yes.

2:29:33Shawn Ryan:Names, names of victims. Yep. They have leaderboards. The exact layout.

2:29:39Michael Schlep:They have leaderboards of how many people you killed. Yeah. I mean, what could a game possibly like that be doing to our youth?

2:29:47Shawn Ryan:We know exactly what it's doing to our youth.

2:29:50Michael Schlep:Yeah.

2:29:50Shawn Ryan:there's also a lot of i guess we don't know exactly but we know how bad it's fucking getting

2:29:56Michael Schlep:yeah holy shit there's a lot of isis stuff um on roblox as well this is this is predictive

2:30:03Shawn Ryan:programming of millions of kids yep that's what the fuck this is it's making this shit okay it's real events it's real fucking events holy shit yeah and this is what politicians for 30

2:30:22Michael Schlep:years are trying to tell everybody that oh there's these games they're they're um uh harmful they're they're making kids get radicalized and then there's now actual like this proof that's it

2:30:35Shawn Ryan:it's in manifestos we just proved how easy it is to get exploited on there yeah What do you do if you're... How young are people playing this game? It's like six?

2:30:48Michael Schlep:You can make an account at five years old.

2:30:50Shawn Ryan:Five years old.

2:30:51Michael Schlep:Yeah. But Roblox has stuff from like, even younger than that. Like they have My Little Pony, they have Blippi, you know, just the most young centered brands are on it.

2:31:01Shawn Ryan:But once you're in, you can navigate to anything.

2:31:04Michael Schlep:Yes. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

2:31:06Shawn Ryan:in anything in what i mean of course a predator would be in a fucking blippy thing or a or a my little pony thing or insert whatever whatever kids are in fucking coco melon yeah baby finn

2:31:23Michael Schlep:all of them yeah and all those games are probably in there because they're just ripping everything

2:31:31Shawn Ryan:Holy shit.

2:31:33Michael Schlep:It's crazy. Yeah, so...

2:31:36Shawn Ryan:Holy shit. And they sent you a fucking s - They sent me the cease and desist. Are they suing you?

2:31:42Michael Schlep:They didn't sue me, but I can get into this. There was another content creator by the name of Ruben Sim, who exposed child predators on Roblox. He was directly tied into a case related to a Roblox developer grooming a child who ended up... This developer abducted this girl. I'll talk about that in a second, but pretty much the lawsuit was for$1.6 million. And they said his cyber mob was harassing people and the company. and it was the most frivolous lawsuit you could possibly believe. For instance, one thing within this lawsuit that it claimed was... Let me get it real quick.

2:32:36Michael Schlep:It claimed that a social media manager by the name of Jack Hendricks was photoshopping him nude and posting it online. while working for Roblox, the social media manager was literally posting nude photos of himself online. And he posted... Who is this? This is one of the social media managers at Roblox. All he did was show, why is the social media manager at Roblox posting this working for a kid's company? And they said that he was Photoshopping him nude. Another claim they made was he uploaded a nude picture of himself in a lampshade. and he asked Roblox's attorneys, where is this? I never did this.

2:33:19Michael Schlep:You guys are lying and defaming me for this. And they wouldn't give it to him. And Roblox settled out of court, I believe, with them. But he was whistleblowing on this predator problem, and this was clearly Roblox doing everything in their power to silence a whistleblower. But about this developer that was grooming kids on Roblox, This developer was named Arnold Castillo. He had a very successful Sonic game on Roblox. It wasn't in collaboration with the Sonic Sega brand, but it was immensely popular. And on his Roblox game, there was a Discord server where if you went to that Discord server, you could join his community.

2:34:01Michael Schlep:And he was procuring kids within this Discord community, linked on Roblox, and he was grooming them, like, viciously. It came out that he was grooming people. So Ruben Sim went ahead and filed a police report with his local police, and he was trying to get the police to do something about this guy. And pretty much nothing happened. And eventually, it comes out months later, he goes... Actually what happened was... So Roblox knew this guy was grooming kids on the platform. And Ruben Sim brought this to the attention of employees at the company. They terminated this developer's account. And then they reinstated him.

2:34:48Michael Schlep:They brought him back to the platform. And then the guy ends up grooming another girl. He ubers this girl from one part of the country to another state. Like, bribe this Uber driver$1 ,000 to do it. He ends up doing horrific stuff to this girl. The FBI ends up catching this guy with this girl that he got from his Discord server. And Roblox, in that whole time, was paying and allowing this guy to be on the platform. And the only reason why his game was removed off of Roblox is because Sega sent a DMCA request to Roblox, Why are you hosting our brand on your company?

2:35:34Shawn Ryan:Holy shit.

2:35:35Michael Schlep:And a pedophile made it. Like, that's crazy. I think it's a little bit insane with all that happening. Sega actually came back to Roblox to make a game. Can you believe that? After that happened with their brand? Holy shit. Yeah, and while all that was going on, that's when they filed this$1.6 million lawsuit against Ruben Sim and accused him of all this stuff. Um, I mean, that is totally unbelievable. I, I, I... That was them silencing a whistleblower. And I guess this next time around with me, they, they just went with a cease and desist. But Roblox has a history of silencing people coming out about their predatory behavior taking place on their platform.

2:36:19Shawn Ryan:Have they done anything to an actual predator? Um... At all?

2:36:26Michael Schlep:I know that there was a guy in Marion County they filed a NECMEC report about and he ended up getting arrested. I mean, they don't do enough. That's definitely for certain. I mean, you saw it. They definitely don't do enough.

2:36:48Shawn Ryan:I can't even fucking believe what I just saw. on a fucking game that you say is being advertised as safe for kids how the fuck is that safe for kids how the fuck is that acceptable how the fuck does a parent let what the fuck is happening

2:37:08Michael Schlep:i have absolutely no idea and i think it's i've personally warned tons of parents about this

2:37:16Shawn Ryan:shit i mean now i'm not even talking about through the fucking show i'm talking about personal relationships some of their fucking kids are still fucking around on roblox because they don't want to deal they don't want to fucking deal with their kid by pulling them off the platform i mean what it's fucking crazy and we're we just we showed them with the seven we haven't even talked about the seven six four seven six four i haven't fucking talked about it and we just proved it yeah and there's still gonna be people that let their fucking kids go on that game yep just so they don't have to listen to them yeah just so they can go fuck off on their phone and look at whatever their fucking instagram it's fucking crazy yeah it's fucking crazy and like i said this country is the number one we we consume more of this shit than anybody else exploitation and trafficking it in in

2:38:23Michael Schlep:in media yep it's it's and nobody's doing anything about it yep well i shouldn't say nobody

2:38:35Shawn Ryan:i don't know i don't i just i'm not unaware of any politician other than fucking roe khanah exactly who i don't even agree with on much but thank god somebody up there is doing something for sure i mean we got everybody else just sweeping it under the rug like why is just sweeping under the rug why the fuck wouldn't we why wouldn't we investigate every single fucking person that went to Epstein Island. Let's just sweep it under the rug. Makes my friends look bad.

2:39:04Michael Schlep:Yeah. It's insane.

2:39:08Shawn Ryan:Oh, man, I feel like I'm gonna fucking puke.

2:39:12Michael Schlep:It is so sad. I look back to that video with all those kids in that classroom and half of them raising their hands if they had been offered to do something inappropriate. I mean, think how many kids in that classroom didn't understand that question. like I it's I get so many emails like I wish people could see it from my view because it is so immense

2:39:37Shawn Ryan:they're gonna see it from your view now a small a very small glimpse

2:39:42Michael Schlep:yeah that's why any parent that asks me should I let my kid be on Roblox it's just a withstanding no like your kid this game is dangerous it is so dangerous these spaces that they're advertising as safe are not safe. I have only briefly touched on these cases. I mean, for instance, last year, one of the lawsuits filed was a 10-year-old who was kidnapped in California and taken to Northern California from a 27-year-old that they met on the Roblox game Mic Up. So they met someone on this Roblox game, showed up at their house and drove them to Northern California. The parents have filed a lawsuit against the company.

2:40:30Michael Schlep:And there's so many horrific, horrific abuse cases related to Roblox.

2:40:45Shawn Ryan:What kind of consequences have you faced for diving into this? no it breakfast you had said you've been swatted yeah are you being threatened i mean you are fucking with some very powerful people really fucking pound look at me dude i'm being serious i'm being fucking serious i mean ryan montgomery and i took six billion off the stock table in one fucking week how much do you think it costs to fucking take a hit out on somebody I can tell you this much, it's a hell of a lot less than six billion fucking dollars.

2:41:23Michael Schlep:Ah, it's pretty terrifying.

2:41:25Shawn Ryan:What are you doing to protect yourself? Are you doing anything?

2:41:28Michael Schlep:I don't want to go into the specifics of that, but I am very aware of the position I'm in. I mean, everybody knows what happens to whistleblowers, massive multi-billion dollar corporations.

2:41:39Shawn Ryan:You have to stay loud. Yep. Yep.

2:41:43Michael Schlep:I mean, that's... it's suppression, then silence. So, that's... I don't know. I mean, at the end of the day, I really... I'm just... I've had to deal with my own crazy stuff as a relation to all this. I had the FBI come to my house. I mean, we were being swatted by pedophiles, the Roblox, when the news broke. Um, but yeah, I mean, we, we, um, I mean, I had the FBI come into my house asking me about the predators.

2:42:19Shawn Ryan:These fucking people run the world.

2:42:22Michael Schlep:It's, it's scary. It's terrifying. You know, it's, how can you, I mean, it's, it's unbelievable. I mean, I, I didn't even show you this. Like, all right, everything that I've just told you, lawsuits, you know, them doing what they did to me. what the executives of this company want for roblox is going to blow your mind listen to this this is the ceo of roblox on stage he pitched this in 2023 and he also pitched this again after my situation when it blew up became like the a really huge thing on the internet this is him pitching the idea of turning roblox into a dating platform that miners can access Next one.

2:43:07Shawn Ryan:Let's up this to 18+. Okay, this one's controversial, but here's what I want to share with you.

2:43:16Michael Schlep:For 18-plus verified people in 18-plus experiences, thousands of adults will meet for the first time in Roblox dating experiences and subsequently form real-life relationships. That's their priorities right now. That's what they are prioritizing. I mean, it's so crazy to even comprehend that. That was just this year.

2:43:40Shawn Ryan:But there's no way to verify the A-Team. I mean, we just did the birthday. It did say you had to verify your birthday. What does that mean? You had to verify your birthday. To chat message. How do you do that?

2:43:50Michael Schlep:So you scan a photo of your face. I got a photo of it here. Let me see.

2:44:00Shawn Ryan:You scan a photo of your face?

2:44:02Michael Schlep:Yeah. Yeah, so this is it. So get a photo of your face, turn left and right, and then boom, it gives you an age that it thinks you are. Now, let me just first explain how -

2:44:14Shawn Ryan:So you just - so anybody that's a parent, you just have your fucking kid do it.

2:44:17Michael Schlep:Yeah. Yeah, for one, the company that they're trusting to do this age check is being sued over how they handle biometric data. So, I mean, there's a whole data privacy, massive concern related to that.

2:44:29Shawn Ryan:But really, all you need to do is just get - A kid to skin. A kid to do it. No, actually... Hey, can you just do this real quick for me?

2:44:35Michael Schlep:It's so easy. You can just buy it. We already know that... You can just buy one of these accounts with any age you want on it.

2:44:41Shawn Ryan:So if you... What is that? Oh, you can... You've got to be fucking kidding me.

2:44:45Michael Schlep:Yeah. And...

2:44:46Shawn Ryan:Where do you buy that?

2:44:48Michael Schlep:You buy it on eBay. eBay actually had a recent...

2:44:50Shawn Ryan:Oh, you're on fucking eBay? Mm-hmm. What is that? Does that say 13 to 15?

2:44:54Michael Schlep:13 to 15 year old. And what this means is you can only talk to 13 and 15 years old. Online, they're joking, calling this the predator buffet update because it allows predators to select what age group they want to communicate with.

2:45:09Shawn Ryan:It's like this thing is made for them.

2:45:14Michael Schlep:It's just, I can't comprehend it. I mean, there's messages from predators. Anyone selling a 13 account? No. Why? So I can have some fun? Fun how? You can have fun with people your age. You're 19. Stop being a creep. I do have people my age. I got both. You told a 13 year old you were upset because she was underage and had a crush and you had a crush on her. Where is that? This is on Discord and they're trying to sell and trade underage Roblox accounts.

2:45:45Shawn Ryan:And they are. Not trying. They are.

2:45:48Michael Schlep:They are. Yeah.

2:45:50Shawn Ryan:I mean, it's... Holy shit, dude.

2:45:53Michael Schlep:Yeah.

2:45:54Shawn Ryan:Can you do me a favor and screen record, pull up eBay, screen record it, and I just want to see how many...

2:46:03Michael Schlep:eBay did recently put out a statement saying that they are removing these profiles, but I am curious if it's still there. So I'll tell you right now.

2:46:11Shawn Ryan:When was that still? How long ago was that?

2:46:13Michael Schlep:I want to say about a week and a half ago, maybe two weeks, but let me see.

2:46:17Shawn Ryan:So they just moved to something else?

2:46:18Michael Schlep:Yeah, I mean, you can... Let me see, Roblox account.

2:46:21Shawn Ryan:Fucking Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace or who knows where.

2:46:25Michael Schlep:Oh, yeah. Oh, wait. No, that's not it. Let me see. And there's tons. 18 plus. Yeah, okay. Roblox. Let me see. 13.

2:46:37Michael Schlep:I mean, I'm seeing accounts on here that are listed 18 plus.

2:46:43Shawn Ryan:Just look up Roblox kids accounts.

2:46:46Michael Schlep:Yeah, let's see. Roblox age 13 account purchase.

2:46:57Michael Schlep:um shopping

2:47:02Michael Schlep:roblox account for sale looks like ebay took most of their stuff down

2:47:07Shawn Ryan:well that's fucking good we got some good news today schlep that's fucking good

2:47:12Michael Schlep:I think it's crazy that ebay is having to clean up roblox's mess

2:47:16Shawn Ryan:look up facebook marketplace let's see I wonder if they got it

2:47:25Shawn Ryan:we're also people selling shit this craigslist little thing probably let's see roblox age account

2:47:35see gift cards yeah here we go i think i found one yeah look at this oh well i guess it's a

2:47:43Michael Schlep:a little i think it's a different currency i'm not even sure but But it says here, Roblox account, 13 to 15 years old, voice chat enabled. You can buy this.

2:47:54Shawn Ryan:What is that website?

2:47:56Michael Schlep:Oh, this is Carousel.

2:47:59Shawn Ryan:So that took you about 60 seconds to go find an underage account to go buy? This is fucking crazy. It was the top result, pretty much. I mean, like, yeah, that's crazy.

2:48:10Michael Schlep:You can just buy one.

2:48:15Shawn Ryan:That is crazy.

2:48:17Michael Schlep:Just to think too. It's not.

2:48:19Shawn Ryan:They will always find a way. This is also what I was talking about at the beginning. They will always find a fucking way. If roadblocks cease to exist tomorrow, it's gone. Whatever. It's gone.

2:48:34Michael Schlep:For sure.

2:48:35Shawn Ryan:They're going to the next place.

2:48:36Michael Schlep:Mm-hmm.

2:48:37Shawn Ryan:They aren't. It never. It's never going to stop. It's never going to stop. This is for the parents. It's never going to stop, ever. You have to fucking stay vigilant. You have to be vigilant about this shit.

2:48:57Michael Schlep:When something happens to Rogan Fox, Discord, any of these other platforms, a new one's just gonna pop up. I mean, that's kind of the thing about it at the end of the day. I mean, all... Really what needs to happen is these companies need to have new executives with their primary mission being their platform is a safe platform. No one wants to put their kid on a platform.

2:49:19Shawn Ryan:That and what also needs to happen is people need to get their fucking kids off the internet.

2:49:23Michael Schlep:True.

2:49:24Shawn Ryan:They need to get their fucking kids off the internet. I mean, I alone have covered this shit. I don't know. But I'm one of the only ones that will even talk about it. Nobody will even talk about this shit. It's fucking crazy. Yeah. Like, nobody gives a fuck. They're like, I don't want to talk. What the fuck? Like, what? What greater purpose is there in fucking life than to do good and protect fucking kids?

2:49:49Michael Schlep:Yeah. I don't want to touch it.

2:49:52Shawn Ryan:I might get fucking demonetized. Who fucking cares, man? Fuck off. Grow a fucking sack. Holy shit.

2:50:01Michael Schlep:Exactly.

2:50:01Shawn Ryan:It's fucking crazy, man. Man.

2:50:05Michael Schlep:Yeah. I think the thing. Oh, fuck. It's just the scale, man. How big this problem is.

2:50:14Shawn Ryan:It's everywhere.

2:50:16Michael Schlep:Yeah. It literally is everywhere. I mean, Roblox is one component of it, but Discord, all these other social media sites, I mean, so many kids are getting hurt. In today's day and age, you just cannot give your kid an iPad.

2:50:32Shawn Ryan:It's in the biggest Christian camp in the fucking world.

2:50:36Michael Schlep:Yeah.

2:50:37Shawn Ryan:And they're doing the same shit as Roblox. Yep. They're sending out NDAs, settling, and then saying, you can never fucking talk about the fact that you were molested. Oh, or somebody was reading scripture over them while they're doing this. It's just, it's fucking. Yeah. It's great. It's everywhere kids are going to be and always will be. Always will be.

2:51:03Michael Schlep:For sure. It's tragic. I think my attorney is like the number of victims that they represent is I think over 3 ,000 victims of Roblox and Discord related abuse. That's I mean, that's such a crazy number.

2:51:21Shawn Ryan:They have law firms.

2:51:22Michael Schlep:Law firms.

2:51:23Shawn Ryan:That are set up.

2:51:25Michael Schlep:Yep.

2:51:26Shawn Ryan:And that's their thing. This is like...

2:51:30Michael Schlep:That's how widespread this is. Think of how many people didn't go to a law firm.

2:51:35Shawn Ryan:We went down. We looked up the shit. I forgot the name. The name of the law firm that sent me the cease and desist from Springfield, Missouri for the CannaCook shit.

2:51:47Michael Schlep:Yeah.

2:51:47Shawn Ryan:Yeah. Oh. They wanted me to apologize. They wanted me to do a public apologize and apologize to fucking CannaCook. Oh, my God. I said, sorry. I don't negotiate with pedophiles. Fuck off.

2:52:01Michael Schlep:Literally.

2:52:02Shawn Ryan:And then one of my guys looked him up because I asked. I was like, I wonder how many fucking pedophiles this law firm has represented. And one of my guys looked it up. First thing that popped up was like big thing in the Catholic Church. Guess who got him out of it?

2:52:23Michael Schlep:Gosh.

2:52:24Shawn Ryan:I don't know the name, but don't worry. We'll throw the cease and desist up right fucking now. It's got their phone number, everything. You know what they did? You know what they did? They fucking, they turned the comments off on their ex account because so many people were fucking pissed off that they're defending a fucking pedophile.

2:52:41Michael Schlep:Why do you have a pedophile as your client?

2:52:43Shawn Ryan:Who does? Who defends them? Like, what the fuck, man? I couldn't even, I'd love to chat with your attorney about this because that's all they do, right? Is defend.

2:52:54Michael Schlep:They represent a lot of stuff, like even beyond Roblox, a lot of abuse cases. I think they've represented some clergy abuse cases. So, yeah, I mean, they have a lot of stories to tell in relation to that. Sure. But, yeah.

2:53:12Shawn Ryan:Well, Shlap, I got you something.

2:53:13Michael Schlep:Hmm.

2:53:15Shawn Ryan:You know, that's why I was asking what you're doing to protect yourself.

2:53:18Michael Schlep:Oh. I, I, I.

2:53:21Shawn Ryan:You don't have to tell me. I just, I got you something.

2:53:23Michael Schlep:Oh, you did? Okay. Let me see.

2:53:27Shawn Ryan:Stay there.

2:53:28Michael Schlep:Okay.

2:53:30Shawn Ryan:All right.

2:53:31Michael Schlep:Oh, my goodness. Yeah.

2:53:33Shawn Ryan:Dude, that is awesome, bro. Have you heard of Sig Sauer? Nah. Okay. Well, now you have. So this is a 5.56 weapon. Uh-huh. And I got a really good friend over at Sig. His name's Jason. And I was already telling you about him. He's the VP of Marketing. Actually, I got to call him today to let him know that their weapons their their firearms are being used in roblox you know to uh simulate school shooters and kill kids on a video game but anyways uh new optics line this is what all the military is going to this 556 got a flashlight on there and then i got other i made another friend and uh it uh silencer shop and so silencer shop put a brand new suppressor on this yo that's so cool yeah so here you go

2:54:27Michael Schlep:thank you i appreciate that oh my gosh that is so cool there you go oh man that's awesome yeah i only recently got into shooting i'm gonna love oh you're into shooting yeah i recently yeah i've been going with friends like out to the range like every week or so so what are you shooting uh i don't even know the gun i got i recently just got a pistol so what'd you get is blinking on my mind. That's all right. I got one. I do have one, yeah.

2:54:55Shawn Ryan:Well, now you have the coolest fucking gun at the range.

2:54:57Michael Schlep:Heck yeah. Oh, man.

2:54:59Shawn Ryan:Cool. I'm going to teach you how to shoot that damn thing today.

2:55:01Michael Schlep:Heck yeah. I'm very excited.

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2:57:51Shawn Ryan:Here's what I want to talk about. I want to talk about the thing that you don't want to talk about. I want to reveal the name of your abuser. Are you ready?

2:58:00Michael Schlep:Yeah.

2:58:01Shawn Ryan:Are you sure?

2:58:02Michael Schlep:I'm ready. I've been wanting this to happen for a very long time.

2:58:05Shawn Ryan:You know, it really... You know, your dad out there was almost in tears. He may have been in tears. He said that he had never heard that name, that you had kept that name from him. And we're about to release it to millions and millions of people. Are you ready, Kevin Nolan? Are you ready for your name to be broadcast to the entire world that you were fucking abusing my friend Schlepp here? Yep. We're going to put your picture up. Again, your name's Kevin Nolan. He lives in Ireland. Kevin Nolan. Everybody, if you're listening to this on something, go to the video form and look at this picture. This is Kevin Nolan.

2:58:47Shawn Ryan:What was he?

2:58:49Michael Schlep:His name was Ripple on Roblox. Ripple. Yeah, that was him.

2:58:54Shawn Ryan:And he was a developer?

2:58:55Michael Schlep:He was a developer, yep. I would love to hear from Roblox more about why they banned him. They haven't said a single peep.

2:59:02Shawn Ryan:By him, you mean Kevin Nolan.

2:59:04Michael Schlep:Yeah, by Kevin Nolan.

2:59:06Shawn Ryan:Kevin Nolan.

2:59:06Michael Schlep:Ripple.

2:59:07Shawn Ryan:Abusing kids. Mm-hmm.

2:59:09Michael Schlep:I'm glad that's out there. I know that there's been a lot of mystery onto why he was removed off of Roblox. He was removed off of Roblox for being a pedophile and grooming kids. I will say that's something I've been trying to get out there for a very long time. I'm really...

2:59:25Shawn Ryan:Well, tell you what, Roblox made him famous, but he's about to be a lot fucking more famous than he was with Roblox. I can guarantee you that.

2:59:33Michael Schlep:Yep, and that person, he sent me gore, sent me... would ask me horrible stuff when I was a minor. He victimized other girls, and he was a total monster, and that's why Roblox banned him. I mean, that was the reason why.

2:59:49Shawn Ryan:We found an article of Kevin Nolan online. We'll post that too right now. I just want to put it up on the screen.

2:59:55Michael Schlep:Yeah, he tried to say he was blackmailed, which... The truth is he groomed that girl viciously. He groomed...

3:00:02Shawn Ryan:How the fuck do you say... How would you even create a narrative that he was blackmailed? Blackmailed? What is that even... Like blackmailed?

3:00:09Michael Schlep:So what ended up happening is he had... This victim did end up trying to get a Roblox item out of him. And I guess they did. And then Roblox instantly reverted it. But, I mean, at the end of the day, it was, he groomed this girl viciously. She dropped out of high school over the abuse she suffered. So, I mean, and even beyond that, I mean, I literally saw my own, he did that stuff to me. He literally, I have the images. I have the images of sending me the Christchurch shooting when I was a minor. I have the images of him sending me when I was a minor. So, I mean, I don't even know what he, you know, the only thing he could do is apologize to all the victims that he abused.

3:01:01Shawn Ryan:What the fuck would that do?

3:01:03Michael Schlep:Tell me about it. Exactly. I mean, it's, I think out of anybody who really owes the biggest apology is Roblox to not only me, but my family. And they never cared. They never cared about what we went through. They don't care about any of the victims. Something I did want to talk about with you was after my cease and desist, there was a chief safety officer at Roblox. His name is Matt Kaufman. he had put out a statement and mind you before this I'd come out saying I was a victim on this platform that a popular developer groomed me when I was a minor he made a statement on Roblox comparing me to child predators similar to actual predators the behavior of getting these people arrested that that's similar to them and then he sent me an email after I released my video it was Roblox take a seat with Chris Hansen.

3:02:09Michael Schlep:He stated here I'm gonna actually pull up this email for you because it is so shocking. I mean it is it is unbelievable what he sent me. Follow up from Roblox. Hi Michael, I understand our decision to moderate and ban your account came as a surprise. Something you wholeheartedly disagree with. This is Matt Coffman, same guy a week prior who compared me to actual child predators. That said, our intent has been to keep the platform safe, and I believe that is something we have in common. Would you be up for a conversation to see if there's some way we can keep you active in the Roblox community?

3:02:48Michael Schlep:Nothing about me being groomed. No apology for comparing me to child. That was something I really was so deeply offended about. They've never once apologized for making that statement. And just to float in, would you like to come back to the Roblox community?

3:03:06Shawn Ryan:Are you serious? Who the fuck would want to go back to the Roblox community?

3:03:11Michael Schlep:I'd say it you wouldn't want to do that would you no I wouldn't want to touch Roblox after everything that's happened what the fuck I really wouldn't I I just I've such a foul taste that's like

3:03:25Shawn Ryan:hey used you you want to come back to Camp Canna cook exactly I mean that no

3:03:30Michael Schlep:exactly exactly the fuck that's it's so so we'll give you a free pass yeah we

3:03:37Shawn Ryan:I'll fucking bet you will. Turns out I'm too old now.

3:03:41Michael Schlep:What's crazy about this specific email, my law firm actually responded to Matt Kaufman. And they made it explicitly clear, all communication must go through my legal counsel. I mean, that's why you have a lawyer, so that this stuff is handled between lawyers, not the individuals in the party. and he emailed me directly. He reached out to me directly. And then I believe it was a week or so after that, I forgot the exact dates, but the CEO of Roblox was asked about me getting kicked off the platform. He responds to the question by completely ignoring it. And then the journalist asked him once again, why did you kick this guy?

3:04:25Michael Schlep:Your community is really passionate about this. And he said, Schlepp broke our terms of use and we really don't like that, but we love Schlepp's feedback and we reached out to Schlepp. They use this outreach as if they properly reached me out. I mean, the offer was always on the table for Roblox if they wanted to have a conversation, but I'm not going to be privately corded into these sort of channels. I mean, that's just ridiculous. And I think the other thing here too is that I want to see Roblox show some form of compassion for these survivors. I mean, that 10-year-old that went through that horrific sexual abuse, that girl who had to get an abortion from a predator, they met off of Roblox.

3:05:15Michael Schlep:They should not be trying to be moved into private arbitrations, kind of like what happened with Camp Canacook where they're trying to get these victims to sign NDAs. That should not be how Roblox is handling these horrific child sexual abuse cases. I mean, they should really be apologizing.

3:05:36Shawn Ryan:As long as I've been looking into this, I don't think I have seen any fucking institution apologize, make good. I mean, it's impossible to make good. Because it's always about the money. It's never about the kids. It's always about the money and the power.

3:05:54Michael Schlep:Exactly.

3:05:55Shawn Ryan:It's politics, it's power, it's business, it's money. I mean, like, that's the thing.

3:06:00Michael Schlep:I bet you Matt Kaufman and these executives are watching it. I mean, literally all, I just want an apology, you know? And, you know, I want these victims to get justice. These victims deserve it. I mean, they've been so horrifically abused. I don't know how you can sit in an office and look at these cases as they roll up on your desk and just see games like these mass shooting games, these giant games filled with exploitation and just feel good about yourself. I mean I don't know, you know they have kids, I don't know how you could sit there and think my kid could play this. Like that's just so backwards.

3:06:41Michael Schlep:And anyways, to get a little bit more in depth on this, now so far there's been five states that have filed lawsuits, attorney generals. What I thought the most interesting one was the Florida one. I was cited in it for my conviction that we got there. But what is interesting about that one is it started out with a subpoena, and then they upgraded it to a criminal subpoena based on the findings of the initial subpoena. and on an interview that Chris Hansen did with the Florida Attorney General, he pretty much said that he saw that predators were being reported to Roblox and Roblox wasn't properly doing what they should have been doing.

3:07:23Michael Schlep:I mean, that's insane. I mean, that's why it's now a criminal. They're being criminally investigated, this company.

3:07:32Shawn Ryan:Here are, I got to bring up some good news because there's not much. Here's all the pieces of shit that are standing up for the fucking big tech gaming community. First one, Tom Keene Jr. out of New Jersey. Good job, Tom. Great work. Here are the state attorneys. We'll get into the rest of these later when we get your attorney on. State attorney generals investigating or suing roadblocks from August 2025 to present. Here's the states. There's not very many of them. Number one, Texas. Number two, Oklahoma. Number three, Louisiana. Number four, Florida. Number five, South Carolina. Number six, Kentucky.

3:08:22Number seven, thank God, Tennessee.

3:08:26Shawn Ryan:And that's where it ends, folks. That means there's 43 other states that just don't give a fuck.

3:08:33Michael Schlep:I know some states are definitely looking into it right now. But yeah, I mean, this is why it's so important. Call up your attorney general's office. Tell them that you want this company investigated. I mean, that's, you know, these people, they need to know that as a constituent, you want this company investigated. Because I'll say one thing. I mean, just from my own personal experiences, we were getting child predators arrested on the platform, and they didn't care. I mean, I thought I'm actually blocked by the CEO of Roblox, specifically because of a child predator that we got arrested. And out of the six cases we've had, it's the only one that the prosecutors, I guess they dropped.

3:09:18Michael Schlep:And I mean, it was an open and shut case. This guy showed up at a park to meet someone that he thought was a 13 year old. I believe he's either 21 or 22. And this guy is still abusing kids online. There was a video that was uploaded very recently about it. And he's back on Roblox as of this moment. I'll actually... I'll show you his Roblox account. Just so... so... You know, if any Roblox executives are watching this, this is a child predator.

3:09:46Shawn Ryan:I can guarantee you they're all watching this.

3:09:49Michael Schlep:This is a child predator right now, who is on Roblox, that I caught and got arrested, who's currently using your platform. Let me get this. his name is kiani govia and he is from hawaii but let me let me find this i got it right here so this here is a predator that i got arrested uh he showed up at a park in hawaii to meet a 13 year old girl um this is him on roblox right now what's his screen name um it is kitty uh cat cat catty butt so k-i-t-t-y c-a-t-t-i-e b-u-t-t this guy Did he caddy butt? Yeah, that's his name on the site. And he's been arrested. Yeah, he was arrested. But from my knowledge, it was the only case that we got that was dropped by the police.

3:10:42Michael Schlep:I was told by Jadion, which was the guy I worked with on this, that the detectives were even confused by it because I guess the prosecutors didn't know how to charge for this specific online solicitation. but he is still grooming kids. I actually think it was about a week ago, I had to get two kids to call, or I talked to their parents. This guy was sending nudes to these kids. I believe they were 15 years old. So he's still actively abusing kids, and he's on Roblox.

3:11:17Shawn Ryan:Make sure you take that screenshot that. We've got to put that up so parents know if they see that fucking screen name.

3:11:23Michael Schlep:Absolutely.

3:11:24Shawn Ryan:Of course, any parents watching this that are good parents, their kids will never see fucking Roblox ever, ever again.

3:11:31Michael Schlep:Now, get this. The reason why I was blocked by the CEO of this company, he had made another account to get back onto Roblox. You know, initially, when we told Roblox about this, we sent them everything. They ignored it until after the arrest. but when he came back to Roblox after getting banned and I emailed their support, I'm like, this guy's a child predator. We got him arrested. This is all the chat logs of it. Here's him admitting that he's him, all this, and they ignored me. So I tweeted at the CEO of Roblox, I replied to one of his tweets, hey, this is a child predator and your AI email system isn't even doing anything, like this is his Roblox account, can you ban him?

3:12:16Michael Schlep:And he blocked me on Twitter for it. He blocked me on Twitter for that. Yeah. Can you believe that? I mean, that is crazy to even think about.

3:12:28Shawn Ryan:I was just going to go find them, but it's probably not a good idea.

3:12:33Michael Schlep:Yeah. And with the Roblox official Twitter account, I tweeted at them when they put out a big thing about safety, I'm like, why are you guys trying to force 10-year-olds into private arbitrations to silence them from coming out about their story because they want to seek justice for their abuse? I mean, why are you guys doing that? Can we get a statement? They blocked me for that. Of course they did. Yeah, they don't want to talk about their arbitration clause and them trying to move cases into these private arbitrations. I think it was 100 parents recently just wrote a collective email or a letter to Roblox saying how unethical it is for them to even consider.

3:13:14Michael Schlep:The priorities of this company are backwards. It should be stopping these child predators, but for the CEO, it's adding dating onto this platform. Another thing that was pretty shocking was an interview that the CEO of Roblox gave where he was asked about bringing Polymarket, like something similar to Polymarket on Roblox, which is gambling, right? And they asked it to him as a joke, like, oh, you should do that. And he's like, no, I think that's a great idea. If we could do that in an educative way, if we could introduce gambling to children in an educative way, that is the CEO of the company.

3:13:58Michael Schlep:Wow. Wow. Unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable.

3:14:04Shawn Ryan:There's one... So I told you, we had spoken to... Not we. Well, we. Jeremy spoke to... They reached out. They wanted to chat with me. I was like, nope. Not until I'm done.

3:14:16Michael Schlep:Yeah.

3:14:18Shawn Ryan:And, you know, we need to do that. That's just what we do here. We got to hear it inside. This is the one thing that we kind of got that I need to ask you.

3:14:28Michael Schlep:Yeah.

3:14:30Shawn Ryan:Some of your critics say you just find predators on Discord in Blame Roblox. How do you respond to that?

3:14:38Michael Schlep:The predators that we find, we find them in Roblox Discord. These are people searching for Roblox games on Roblox. Discord is a massive facilitator of this. They enable and host these communities. and pretty much we would literally join these servers and there's...

3:15:01Shawn Ryan:You know what? This doesn't even fucking deserve a response because we just pulled it up. I could find them in seconds. We just pulled it up and within, I think it was 20 seconds, we got a guy that wants to...

3:15:13Michael Schlep:It's such a foolish...

3:15:14Shawn Ryan:...wants to get freaky. Yeah. And then the next guy also wants to get freaky. We talked to like five people I think that are alluding to, Hey, what are you doing? Oh, you're bored? Oh, I'm bored too. Gee, I wonder what the fuck that's gonna turn into. Anybody with half a fucking brain can figure that out. Let's take a break, let's go blow some shit up.

3:15:34Michael Schlep:Hell yeah.

3:15:35Shawn Ryan:And then when we come back, I'm gonna talk to your attorney, and we're gonna wrap this fucking thing up, put a bow on it, and fucking send it to Kevin Nolan.

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3:16:33Shawn Ryan:Love what you're doing. So we had breakfast with you and slept. So you work for a law firm that specializes in what? We represent survivors of abuse. It's all we do at Gould, Greco & Hensley. We represent survivors in digital exploitation like Schlepp and others. And we have clients who were exploited or abused in clergy settings, hospital settings, school settings. So we specialize in this area. It's all we do. We do it well. Our staff is all informed by trauma-based training. And, yeah, we're very proud of the work we do. I'm just, I love what you guys are doing. I've actually never heard of a firm that just specializes in that.

3:17:29Shawn Ryan:So thank you for what you're doing. Are there firms that also specialize in defending pedophiles? This is what they do. I mean, there's definitely firms that specialize in defending institutions that give refuge to pedophiles. Oftentimes, whether it's their employees or others affiliated with their organization, yes, there are law firms that specialize and have a relationship with companies and parties that find themselves on the defending side of litigation. I just don't know. don't know how you do we just had one send us a cease and assist from canna cook i'll put it up again because we dug in they're also defending the catholic church back back when all that shit was going on yeah so they they have a history of this so i just want everybody to know who they are so we'll put that up on the screen sure you know um but oh man i don't even know what to talk about first here but let's talk about the safer gaming act that puts big tech over survivors yeah Yeah, sure.

3:18:37Shawn Ryan:What is that? So the Safer Gaming Act is one of probably 18 pieces of legislation that is going through Congress right now that's presented to the public as being something that will improve the safety of games and help survivors of digital exploitation like Schlepp and like our other clients. They all have very ambitious names like Safer Gaming Act, Kids Online Safety Act, etc. But buried in that legislation is a provision that basically gives immunity to tech platforms. It takes away the right of survivors to bring lawsuits against these companies. And it basically gives that right to the federal government.

3:19:31Shawn Ryan:And so it's something that we're really, really glad to be talking about right now because we think it's a huge issue that folks are just not aware of, that there is this concerted effort to give companies like Roblox immunity from wrongdoing and negligence and neglect and carelessness. because they had all these pedophiles on their platform. This is crazy. So they want to give these tech companies that are making games immunity from victims suing them for being assaulted or exploited on their platform. When was this bill introduced? I got everybody who's supporting the bill right here. We're going to read all their names off.

3:20:22Shawn Ryan:And you know what? We're here to name names. It's that important. You know, these are in this session of Congress, and these are the biggest companies in the world. And they're looking for immunity from our Congress to prevent the kinds of cases that we're bringing now. Why are we bringing these cases? Because we want to hold them accountable for knowingly putting their profits over the safety of kids. they knew this was going on on roblox everything you saw today the game experiences the content the extreme content uh the the the issues with identifying your age and they knew this has been going on for a long time and they made the choice to focus on their profits to focus on their shareholders to focus on their own bonuses and their own compensation instead of protect kids and now that you know the chickens are coming home to roost they're going to congress for a loophole how does this happen steven is this i mean this is lobbying right these these people are most likely is that the proper term most like a let maybe yeah being paid off to fucking sponsor this shit Yeah, I mean, these folks, they may think that what they're doing is improving the safety of these platforms and helping kids.

3:22:01Shawn Ryan:And, you know, either they don't know what the preemption provision. You really think they think that? They either don't know what the preemption provision in their bills mean or, yes, they're cozying up to big tech. And, you know, neither of those situations is acceptable. We'll put them all up on screen here, too. So this is who sponsored the bill. This is Tom Keene Jr. of New Jersey. It's him. Looks like a nice guy. He's a real nice guy. Yeah, he may be a nice guy. He looks like a nice guy. He looks like a nice guy. He doesn't want kids to be able to have any retribution from big tech games.

3:22:45Shawn Ryan:That's right. And you got to call him on it. Good job, Tom.

3:22:52Shawn Ryan:here's some more this is uh representative chris smith also from new jersey this is uh darren soto he's from florida yeah so there's them and we got tim walberg michigan laurel lee Another Floridian. Yep. Good job. Good job, Congressman. We got Gus. Do you know how to say this guy's name? Baralkus? Yeah, Baralkus. Oh, another Floridian. Oh, Kathy Castor. Also Floridian. Yep.

3:23:35Shawn Ryan:Good luck with re-election. And then we got Neil Dunn and Ron Davis. This is Safe Messaging for Kids Act of 2025. What's that? A free pass for... It's all the same shit, huh? Yeah. It's just all these different bills that... This guy's from North Carolina here, Ron Davis. There are good ideas in some of those bills, but they're all completely undermined by the fact that they take away the rights of survivors to seek accountability. They take away the rights of state's attorneys general to bring enforcement actions. You were talking with Schlepp about the number of attorneys general that have already brought suit.

3:24:15Shawn Ryan:These bills would take the power away from those attorneys general and give it to the FTC and give it to the federal government. So this is a warning to those politicians. We are going to be in your districts talking to your constituents about these bills, asking these constituents, Who do you think your congresspeople should take the side of? Survivors of sexual abuse or pedophile protecting platforms? All those folks probably voted to release the Epstein files, and at the same time, they're secretly behind people's back and quietly looking to take away the rights of abuse survivors from digital exploitation on Roblox and other gaming platforms.

3:25:10Shawn Ryan:So we know what you're doing. We're not going to lie down while you feed our kids to the wolves of big tech. I just want to reiterate for all the congressmen out there and the people voting for these congressmen. We just talked about a 10 year old that was picked up, brought to a hotel and by five different people. So something like that, something like that happens. She's not going to be able to seek retribution. They're going to say that, you know, any attempt for her to seek retribution is inconsistent with what these bills are supposed to require. And therefore, look, I'll answer the question simply.

3:25:58Shawn Ryan:No, they're going to say she shouldn't be able to seek retribution because Congress made all these bills. and again they either don't know what's in their bills or they support it and neither of those are are acceptable in our view and we are going to keep talking about it this issue is not going away we are not gonna uh let big tech completely eliminate the rights of survivors to get accountability in the court system i just can't believe this shit man i can't believe how many people go out of their way to protect this shit. It's fucking asinine. They think nobody's paying attention. And they think, yeah, and they're wrong about it.

3:26:46Shawn Ryan:But how do you live with yourself? How do you live, how, how, how do you live with yourself by putting this shit up there? Or, or defending these people in court? Yeah. It's, it's just. So what's going on with Schlepp? Schlepp is acting with tremendous courage and continuing to speak out against one of the world's biggest tech platforms, the biggest and most popular game in the history of the world, Roblox. And he's a problem for them. People trust Schlepp. He's a whistleblower. He's authentic. He cares about survivors. they're trying to do whatever they can to make Schlepp go away and make this issue go away.

3:27:33Shawn Ryan:And it's just not happening. He has his own experience on the platform, but he really has transformed into an advocate for other survivors and has just blown this issue completely open. I mean, what does this look like without Schlepp? What does this look like if Schlepp gets the cease and desist letter and like what they were hoping he would do is, you know, shuts up, removes his content off of YouTube, doesn't speak up anymore. That's what they were hoping he would do. That's not what he did. But without Schlepp, I don't know, this whole discussion, I don't know that it's happening right now about Roblox.

3:28:14Shawn Ryan:So he really is the tip of the sphere and he is a hero. Do they have anything on him right now? Are you guys fighting anything? I, you know, they've accused him of violating their terms of service. Meanwhile, there are pedophiles using their platform, violating their terms of service. Those guys don't get banned. You know what they do? They disable the account and they send them right back to the homepage so they can make another one. They don't track who's on the platform. Or they just go buy one on whatever. Even easier. So, they don't have anything on Schlepp. And Schlepp has everything on them.

3:28:57Shawn Ryan:And it's going to remain that way. We represent him. We're going to continue to represent him. We're going to continue to defend against bullying and threats and intimidation and anything else they want to throw at him. And if they want to try and bring him on, well, he's an advocate for survivors. So that discussion is not going to happen with Roblox without some acknowledgement of the absolutely traumatic injuries that the 10-year-old suffered. That, you know, a 13-year-old girl who we represented was kidnapped, suffered. We represent over 3 ,000 clients right now. I mean, these people matter.

3:29:41Shawn Ryan:These injuries were real. We have over 3 ,000 clients? We may have close to 4 ,000. This is a massive issue, and having Schlepp at the front of it is really, really gonna be, I think, beneficial for survivors. Have you guys, I mean, have you guys had, are you, are you, do you have a PR campaign? Are you trying to get this out? I mean, who's paying attention? I can't believe nobody's covering this shit. Nobody's covering this shit. How is that even fucking possible? You know, what's great about what you guys did today and your format is you actually are gonna show people what this game is like.

3:30:21Shawn Ryan:A lot of media organizations, you know, they wanna cover both sides, they don't wanna go too far. You know, they're concerned about going after a big and being too critical of a big company. And, you know, your courage and giving Schlepp the time to go through the issues and to show what's on that platform, that's huge. That is huge. So, no, we don't have a PR campaign, but we want people to be aware of what's going on on this platform. We want parents to be aware. Parents deserve to know what's happening on this platform. The kids deserve to be protected when they're playing it. Kids as young as five, as he said.

3:31:03Shawn Ryan:And, you know, survivors have the right to tell their stories in the way that they want, not to be preempted by politicians in Congress, not to be forced into arbitration where the public will never learn what Roblox knew and when they knew it. So thank you for covering this. And I hope that this will encourage others to cover it because it's a huge, huge child safety story. It's the biggest child safety story in recent time. Possibly ever. Possibly. But so many people are on that thing. Do you know how many people are on Roblox? Well, they claim to have 80 million daily active users. So that's just a huge number of people worldwide.

3:31:53Shawn Ryan:Worldwide. Well, I'm sure this isn't just a problem in the U.S. Not at all. We already know about Kevin Nolan over in Ireland. Look, in Australia, they just came up with a ban on social media. They've got one in France, too. They're moving in the right direction. We're moving in the direction of taking away the rights of survivors to get accountability. It's backward. And the reason it's backward is because the people don't know about it yet. And once the people find out about this, you know, we are confident that they're going to call their representatives. Call these folks. These calls matter.

3:32:30Shawn Ryan:And, you know, you'll have Ro Khanna. I don't want to kind of put them all in the same basket. He's been a tremendous advocate for survivors of sexual abuse. Dick Durbin, Lindsey Graham, they're trying to repeal or sunset Section 230, which is another ridiculous immunity that a lot of these, the world's biggest companies get the benefit of. So there are some people out there that are on the right side of this issue. Well, that's good to hear. That's good. You named three. You got to start somewhere. Oh, and Massey, there's four. Four. I'm all out of names now. This starts somewhere, right? We're not discouraged.

3:33:21Shawn Ryan:This is the beginning. We are going to get people behind making sure that the rights of survivors are preserved and that they have the ability to go to court and present to a jury what the jury decide. Did Roblox act reasonably when they failed to require age and identity verifications? Did they act reasonably when there's a mother whose son in New York is missing and she calls Roblox for help and they take weeks to get back to her? The choices Roblox made in designing their game is what needs to be scrutinized. And we're confident that that's going to happen. I told you guys at breakfast that we've had been having dialogue with Roblox.

3:34:13Shawn Ryan:Yeah. Do you think I should have the CEO on? You know, I think if you have the CEO on, you're going to get a lot of conversation about scale. They like to talk about scale. Yeah, the AI age verification, it doesn't work, but we're trying to do this at such a scale. And if you're criticizing that, then you don't understand. Scale is not something that just happened to them. They built the scale. They're profiting from the scale. So if you have them on, and maybe you should, I know you're going to push back on that. Scale is not an excuse. They built the biggest platform. They did it on the backs of kids and parents who they misrepresented, who were misrepresented by Roblox advertisements, saying it's safe, saying it's educational, saying, you know, we have the best and the safest platform in the world.

3:35:16So, if you have them on, great.

3:35:19Shawn Ryan:Is there any grounds for, like, a class action? You know, we... Our cases are not a class action because the damages are distinct and unique to these particular plaintiffs. We have plaintiffs who've been extorted, kidnapped, plaintiffs who were coerced into sending CSAM and then who had that CSAM end up on the dark web. So we have all these different kinds of cases that wouldn't be good for a class action, But we're consolidated in a single court, and we're working together to try and get a just outcome for all of them. Man. What's the name of your firm again? Gould, Greco, and Hensley in Chicago, Illinois.

3:36:08Shawn Ryan:Get ready, buddy. It's going to be a big influx. I hope you guys got a good recruiting department. We got a long fight ahead of us, but we're ready for it. Well, let me know if there's ever anything I can do. Appreciate that. Any serious. I'm dead serious. If you think there's something in particular that's big like this that needs exposure, I'm your guy. We appreciate that. My pleasure. Love what you're doing. Thank you. Thank you.

3:37:07Dude.

3:37:10Shawn Ryan:Holy shit, what an interview, man. Crazy stuff. Do you even realize the fucking magnitude of what you're doing? I...

3:37:20Michael Schlep:That's the crazy part, because I... I can't even comprehend, like, what... Like, the snowball that I've kind of, like, morphed into, you know, an avalanche. I mean, that's the only way I can describe it. I mean, it, you know, started out with me just getting rid of some of these horrible people in society, and it ended at a corporation wanting to make an example out of me, and being one of the biggest instances of a Streisand effect for the world to see. So, yeah.

3:37:56Shawn Ryan:You are a hero, my man. I appreciate it. I mean that. I appreciate it. That takes a lot of balls to do what you're doing.

3:38:04Michael Schlep:I really do. It's been very stressful, a lot of sleepless nights, but, I mean, at the end of the day, you know, I just get satisfaction knowing that there's, you know, people out there who can't hurt kids anymore. You know, just that alone, I'd trade every account I own, trade all the stuff that Roblox had to do for me, just to know those sick monsters can't keep doing what they're doing.

3:38:33Shawn Ryan:You know, I talk to Ryan about this all the time. I have to check in on him. How are you doing? How are you doing? Uh...

3:38:43Michael Schlep:It's been a lot. It's been very mentally exhausting. I'm very thankful. I have a very loving girlfriend who's been there literally since day one for me. And, you know, I have a great family that has my back. But it's been very stressful. I mean, it's been such a challenging situation to have to deal with. I mean, just, you know, I... You know, at the end of the day, it's just like, it's really hard to... To everybody this should seem like such a cut and dry issue. Like this is something that, you know, the sky is blue. This is something that everyone should fight for because it's kids and this is the biggest gaming platform in the world.

3:39:30Michael Schlep:And, you know, it's crazy to see sometimes push back on certain stuff. I mean, like, I remember some developers when I just stated that the age estimation problem could be a tool for predators. I got some pushback from people on the platform. You know, I got a lot of pushback from people on stuff like TikTok when the age estimation update came out. They thought I was the one responsible for it, which, no. I'm very against it. I've probably been one of the most vocal people against it. Um, so I mean, it's...

3:40:08Shawn Ryan:What are you doing to stay sane? I mean, Schlepp, you are in the middle of the most evil shit on this planet. Yeah. I know. Are you doing anything to take care of yourself?

3:40:24Michael Schlep:Really, what's been keeping a lot of my time is me with friends catching predators. Like, that's what I spend a lot of my time. I mean, I know it doesn't sound like the most relaxing thing, but it is kind of like I get to hang out with my friends and we get to stop bad people. And it's something I really, really enjoy doing. And playing video games, I guess. It's really kind of like what I do to keep my sanity during all this. Make sure you keep tabs on your mental health, man.

3:40:54Shawn Ryan:Absolutely. This shit will catch up to you. Yeah, for sure. I tell this to Ryan all the time, and he never fucking listens to me. Yeah. But it's going to catch up with him. It's going to catch up with you. It's going to catch up with me. You cannot live in this shit forever.

3:41:07Michael Schlep:Absolutely.

3:41:07Shawn Ryan:You have to fucking take care of your mental health.

3:41:09Michael Schlep:Yeah.

3:41:10Shawn Ryan:Because this shit's going to catch up. And Ryan tells me I don't have time to do that. Because if I do that, then I'm not saving kids. But my caveat to that is if you fucking go down and you can't come back up because you have a fucking mental break or something bad happens, then there's going to be lots of kids that aren't saved.

3:41:29Michael Schlep:Absolutely.

3:41:30Shawn Ryan:So you can't help anybody if you're not helping yourself. I want you to look at me, man. I'm being fucking serious. This is the darkest shit on the planet that you're in.

3:41:39Michael Schlep:And that's, I know there's days where it's just like, it's so overwhelming to see all the, I mean, put yourself in my shoes. You wake up, you check your email, and it is tens of emails from kids saying, I saw this. I mean, I'm being abused. I mean, you know, I wish I could help everybody. You know, it's just kind of like all you can do is sit there.

3:42:03Shawn Ryan:I know what that's like.

3:42:05Michael Schlep:It's really, that to me is the hardest. Like I wish I could help so many more people that reach out to me. And all I can really do is just kind of nothing.

3:42:15Shawn Ryan:You got to have somebody filter that shit for you.

3:42:18Michael Schlep:Yeah.

3:42:18Shawn Ryan:You can't read all those. I know. You're doing everything you can.

3:42:22Michael Schlep:Mm-hmm.

3:42:23Shawn Ryan:And that's all that matters.

3:42:25Michael Schlep:Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean. And it's crazy. And I mean, you know, when I was a kid, I saw like a lot of like graphic material and stuff. But I mean, just like, I guess some of the stuff that I've had to expose myself to while seeing this topic. I mean, it's some of the craziest stuff you could possibly believe. I mean, 764, they're heinous stuff for doing to kids. Here, let me show you one thing. This is the last thing I'll probably show you on Roblox. So there was a guy, his name was Ronald McNutt, and he was a Iraq, he served in Iraq. And one night he was live streaming and he got really drunk and he became aggressive.

3:43:15Michael Schlep:And he got a call from his girlfriend and they were fighting and I guess his gun went off. and then after the call, he hung up aggressively. And then he grabbed his shotgun, put it right into his mouth, and pulled the trigger. And I mean, it's one of the most graphic shock videos on the internet. And I mean, let me show you. Someone managed on Roblox to upload this entire video frame by frame and expose it to little kids. I mean... Here, I'll actually... I'll move this over to you so you can see this. I'm just warning you, this is, you know, someone blowing their heads off with a shotgun. This is a live video?

3:44:08Michael Schlep:This is a video on Roblox, you'll see. It has audio and everything.

3:44:18Michael Schlep:Oh my gosh, dude. And he's walking around showing that to little kids in an LGBTQ game on Roblox. I mean, that's the sort of stuff I get.

3:44:29Shawn Ryan:Holy shit.

3:44:30Michael Schlep:That's the stuff I get on a daily basis. The emails I'm getting from kids saying I'm being exposed to this, that. Could you imagine you're a 10-year-old kid, you play Roblox. Someone walks up to you with a video of someone putting a shotgun down their mouth and pulling the trigger. How traumatizing that must be. That's unbelievable. That's insane. And this company is saying there's no video sharing or image sharing. But what I just showed you was video sharing and image sharing.

3:45:08Shawn Ryan:I can't even put that up.

3:45:10Michael Schlep:You can't even show that. Yeah, I mean, that was literally a video of someone committing suicide.

3:45:17Shawn Ryan:That's what I'm talking about, Slep. You've got to fucking take care of yourself, man. And I know it seems like this shit isn't piling up. I fucking get it. Look, man. Spent a lot of time at war. Spent a lot of time doing this shit. Spent a lot of time diving into a lot of evil, man. Take, like, just fucking do a mental check-in. Go talk to a pro. Find one. Find one. Find one now while you're good. Because when shit goes bad, and it will fucking catch up with you, you're going to be scrounging around trying to find the right doc.

3:45:50Michael Schlep:Yeah.

3:45:50Shawn Ryan:I'm being serious, man.

3:45:52Michael Schlep:Yeah, I mean, that's...

3:45:54Shawn Ryan:No.

3:45:55Michael Schlep:Yeah.

3:45:56Shawn Ryan:I got... What would you... This is probably one of the last questions. What would you like to see happen with Roblox? Is there a way that they could fix this?

3:46:09Michael Schlep:I think, personally, this is what I think should happen. And I think the CEO of this company needs to resign. I think David Buzuki has shown his priorities as a CEO, that he values dating, he values gambling, these horribly addictive things, these things that are hurting children. He values that above safety and moderation. You know, they've spent a lot of, they've defunded their moderation. You know, there was a very infamous interview he gave where he just started becoming erratic. And the question that made him erratic was, why is Roblox spending less year over year on moderation? You know, that should be their priority.

3:46:58Michael Schlep:Moderation, keeping kids safe. Do what you're advertising. Do what you're telling parents. And there's clearly some mental decision between him and people at the company that they just don't value that. I think the executives that were involved in some of these decision making, I think people like Matt Kaufman who've seen these things firsthand and think that there needs to be a decision matrix in why they should remove a game that's totally infiltrated by pedophiles. I think that these people don't know what they're doing. I think that these people are just professionally lying to people. And I don't think that they should be executives.

3:47:42I see a good Roblox when these people are out of the company.

3:47:47Michael Schlep:And I hope so. And at the end of the day, my goal isn't even to take down this company. I know it's a resource that kids love, kids play. They see a lot of... I enjoyed it as a kid. You know, I absolutely loved it. But it was just playing games on the platform casually and just seeing maps in games, you know, minor attracted people and, you know, just seven, six, like, it's just horrible. Like, so, yeah, I mean, I just, I really think that there needs to be a leadership change at this company, someone who actually values.

3:48:23Shawn Ryan:It definitely sounds like it.

3:48:25Michael Schlep:Yeah.

3:48:25Shawn Ryan:You've got a lot of work to do.

3:48:27Michael Schlep:Absolutely. Absolutely.

3:48:28Shawn Ryan:Schlepp, I don't even know if this Porsche... I'm going to... This is me to you. We might cut it out of the interview, because nobody knows about this. Literally nobody knows about this. But I'm starting a cybersecurity tech company. It's going to launch... Oh, really? Yeah. It's going to launch next month for friends and family to do the beta testing. It's basically... It's an entire security suite that's going to go on your phone that has all American VPNs, because a lot of the VPNs are Israeli or Chinese, or everybody's fucking spying on us. So these are all American VPNs, keeps the data getting...

3:49:05Shawn Ryan:whatever. This is about to launch. It's called Glacier. And through doing this show, I've met a lot of really good people like you, like Ryan, like my business partners at Glacier. They're some of the best fucking engineers in the world. And we built this cybersecurity app. My next venture, because this is what I'm most passionate about, is building something to protect kids. Ryan Montgomery is likely going to be a part of it. My business partners over at Glacier are going to be a part of it. I'm kind of putting everybody together. And if this actually goes through, I don't know what it looks like.

3:49:50Shawn Ryan:I have no idea. But I'd love to bring you in or have you be a part of this somehow.

3:49:55Michael Schlep:It would be a total honor. I'm really good friends with Ryan Montgomery, so I absolutely, whatever you guys need, whatever help, be more than willing to help with you guys. Right on, man. Thank you. I very much appreciate that.

3:50:10Shawn Ryan:No, thank you. One of my goals this year, personal goals, is to not just expose and bitch and complain about things, but actually come up with real fucking solutions. and um that's a big thing that i want to accomplish this year is come up with a solution for parents you know that educates them that protects their kids that's going to protect a lot of kids and that's amazing so fuck man you're a good person i appreciate it man you're a good person dude and i got one last gift for i forgot i usually give this at the beginning but but um it just with subjects like these there's never a good time to give something like this but these are uh the john's league gummy bears if you've seen any of the shows you know what those

3:50:59Michael Schlep:are heck yeah so made in the usa appreciate it you're welcome and then i did forget one

3:51:04Shawn Ryan:one other thing so i guess there is one more question i got a patreon account oh yeah all right they're the reason i get to sit here with you today and um so i give them the opportunity to ask every single guest a question. This is from Teddy. How do you take on the responsibility of being one of the main figures in the fight against Roblox's lackadaisical efforts to rid their app of child predators? This is actually from his 14-year-old son.

3:51:35Michael Schlep:Really? Yeah. I appreciate him being in the know about everything that's going on, especially all the kids. I mean, there's a lot of kids who see my video. I mean, I really try to put it as like an educational thing and teach about stuff like, you know, love bombing and different strategies these predators use so kids are aware of these sort of things. So shout out to that 14-year-old son. But it's a lot. It's definitely a very scary position to be in. But I'm, you know, I'm not afraid. You know, I'm wanting to... I'm going to keep powering through it, and I hope by the end of this there's actual change.

3:52:16Michael Schlep:And just to know my efforts have already helped some people is all I need to continue, you know? That's really what it is for me. In fighting for these victims, that's what it is all about. Justice for these victims that Roblox is trying to silence. I mean, that's really what it is. They're trying to conceal. They're trying to make it all go away and pretend that, you know, put both hands in their ears. I can't hear anything. You know, we are going to be loud. We are going to continue to fight for these victims. They deserve justice. They absolutely deserve it.

3:52:57Shawn Ryan:This is what they all do, man. Yeah. There's nothing new under the sun. For sure. This is what they all do. But once again, man, it was an honor to meet you. honor to interview you and um i got a feeling we're going to become good friends so appreciate it man thank you for what you're doing of course stay on top of that mental health thank you thank you man god bless all right how you feel good feel good that was a great interview man that was

3:53:27Michael Schlep:great yeah what's a good interview man that's all you man yeah i wonder what roblox is going to be be playing. That's the thing. They always give out these PR responses, but then there was a guy telling you to get freaky, you know, and you're playing mass shooting games.

3:53:48Shawn Ryan:Good luck defending that.

3:53:51Michael Schlep:Yeah, absolutely.

3:53:52Shawn Ryan:Two guys.

3:53:53Michael Schlep:Yeah. Oh yeah, back to back. I mean, if you played that for an hour. We caught...

3:53:59Shawn Ryan:And do you think if I would have done the name? I should have thought about that. I should have What Ryan did when we did this, and done like, Julie 15.

3:54:07Michael Schlep:Oh, yeah. Yeah, it didn't even come across my mind. Honestly, it's probably a good thing, because Roblox should try to say something. I mean, they are looking for anything under the sun that they could possibly go at me about.

3:54:22Shawn Ryan:Well, it's gonna be a hard one to defend, buddy.

3:54:25Michael Schlep:Yeah. Mm-hmm. I love you. When discovery happens and all that, I mean, they have a lot of explaining to do. I'm glad Florida is now making this a criminal thing, because it should be. I think these executives that allowed it to happen... Yeah. 100 % should be... Yeah. This is definitely a very heavy... I didn't expect it to be, like... It was very liberating, too, you know? Good. That's... When all this first starting coming out, like, that was the most liberating feeling ever, to have all these people finally see what I've been seeing for so long.

3:55:05Shawn Ryan:Have you ever gone this in-depth?

3:55:07Michael Schlep:No, I have not gone this in-depth in an interview. Yeah.

3:55:12Shawn Ryan:How does it feel to get that fucker's name out there?

3:55:15Michael Schlep:Oh, man. He's been tweeting like, why won't he name the person who did it? Like, stuff like that. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's been saying that. He's on Twitter? Like, on secret accounts. He's using, like, secret. Yeah. But I know it's him. He's the one doing it.

3:55:32Shawn Ryan:Well, surprise fuckbag. The name's out now, and you ain't fucking hiding anywhere. Oh, so good. That shit is going to be every fucking worm.

3:55:44Michael Schlep:Yep. I'm glad. I mean, that guy was a total monster. I hope when Roblox responds to it, they actually respond, yeah, this guy was a predator on our site, and we banned him. And I'm sure it was too late, but I mean, they did ban him. I mean, it'd be nice to see them take some accountability somewhere, but that'll never happen. Yeah. Yeah. Man.

3:56:07Shawn Ryan:Good stuff, dude. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Likewise. I got kids. Huh? I've got kids. All right. Let's head out.

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