#325 Sean Strickland - The Most Controversial Fighter in the UFC Opens Up Like Never Before

1:06:42Yeah, a lot of fucking money. Yeah, and so I could buy my way out of any trouble that I got in. You know, the cops would arrest me. I'd wind up in jail. On the way to jail, I'd just pay them off. Like, hey, let's stop at this ATM. I'll give you a couple thousand dollars. And taught myself Spanish. I totally immersed myself into that, like, lifestyle. And I OD'd a couple times. And I remember thinking, like, I remember waking up. Dude, it was crazy, like, down there. Like, it was fucking crazy. I used to hang out at these clubs. They'd have cocaine. What about you moving your identity? Has that been hard?

1:07:21Because that was your identity for so long. And now you're kind of like the podcast. Yeah, but nobody knew it, dude. nobody knew it it was just girls and strippers and hookers and drug dealers and like and then i would come back to the saints nobody knew what the fuck i was doing yeah you know what i mean some people did but yeah you're not locked you're not locked into uh i just like i'm gonna i'm gonna die down here like what does my life even fucking mean i know and i got i got run out of there by their version of the feds and uh kind of i can't say escape and evasion but i just i got out because because uh i got tipped off that they were on me now you weren't down there working you're just down there party or a little bit of both oh you know you're just on the party yeah oh yeah you're one of those guys you're one of those kind of savages yeah no it was not like it wasn't work it wasn't i wasn't i'll tell you what guys have you ever been to columbia and everyone's fucking mean to you it's because fucking people like this when you go to columbia I mean, it was just, I just, like, that's just like you're talking about, man.

1:08:23You would show up to a high school party and crack dudes in the face. Like, I would show up to the most dangerous neighborhoods in Columbia and weasel my way in and, like, be partying with these fuckers at 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 in the morning, going 3 or 4 or 5 days straight, you know? I mean, I remember, like, partying in places. You'd look up and you could see, like, the water. you know it was like those uh created like uh like like tin roofs yeah you know i mean and the tin wouldn't even be matched up so you could see the sun rays coming in it was just disgusting man it was disgusting yeah well i could see why i could see why you wouldn't miss that you know but like maybe like the this the cia contracting work but do you miss that no i don't miss any of anymore man oh shit i mean my life's totally different now you know i don't like but i imagine that's hard for a lot of vets right to let go of that like yeah but you have to be willing to let it go yeah you know what i mean like now but i mean i my adrenaline gets fed in different ways now you know so and i have to watch myself and be aware of what the fuck i'm doing but like all i mean we're talking about being unfiltered at the beginning that can give you so white here that can give you an adrenaline it's so fucking white here where you live dude so it's when you i mean when you're calling out the most powerful people in the world on a on a platform you're hey you're becoming that guy bro you're one of the most powerful guys now your voice i mean like is it crazy but like your voice could change elections now well they didn't change it for the better yeah but yeah i'm not fucking that one but yeah you know what i'm saying though so i mean it just you but i'm aware of like i'm aware of that part of me you know and i gotta reel myself in still to this day like you know i'm like are you doing this because it's actually like the righteous thing to do or are you doing this because you're like chasing that adrenaline rush because i'll do it and then it gets released and then i'm like there it is i can feel it and then i get fucking paranoid and you know i don't like to travel without my wife because if the longer i'm without her like the more i'm like the more i like falling back into who i am it's like um she like dude my wife grounds me it's like if it wasn't for her no i'd be in such like even being who i am now you would have a very different version of who i am now like you would have a fucking completely different fucking version but even like when i travel on my wife so i was out training in florida like it just like that life starts creeping back in the boredom starts creeping back in once i get bored it's like it just starts like i go home and i hit my recenter and i'm like wait no no dude this is you this is you man you have a mortgage like you got fucking dogs you know wife and a family one day like this is you but if I travel out my wife a lot it's like really I like ground you yeah I'm like on the cut even like I was walking through like this cute little fucking city we're in dude and they're like all like the nice white people walking in with sure hey what's up white man but I'm so fucking boring no threats no like no like there's no danger it's just like walking through the street like I can't fuck anybody up.

1:11:34There's no potential violence. You're just like, fuck, I'm ready to commit suicide right now. The fuck am I here? It's a good place to raise kids, man. Yeah, dude, right? It's a really good place to raise kids. Your wife would probably love it here. Oh, yeah, no, she would. She's from upstate New York, so she's always trying to go back, but I just can't deal with fucking liberals. And then New Yorkers are kind of dicks. Even the upstate, the East Coast, I think it's like... Well, the Northeast in general. the northeast in general is just a different vibe yeah they're just fucking dickheads dude like i was in a liquor store and there was a black guy buying like a fucking you know buying lottery tickets on the way over here bro super cool man real nice guy we started talking about life you don't get that in the northeast like they're just fucking dicks i don't know i don't know why i've actually put a lot on i think it's just like overly educated people are just like away from violence like um because like when you're like when you're when you don't have the education and like like Northeast is all about education.

1:12:31I have league schools. Like it's a different class of fucking people in the Northeast. Not like New York, New York's a shithole, but we're talking about like 99 % of New York that like, when you meet a man in the, like the ghetto, you look at him and you acknowledge him and you say, Hey, I'm not a friend. Like, I'm not an enemy. Like, so when I go and I walk and I see a man and like, whether it be black Mexican or like some kind of trashy, like I'll look at him and like, Hey, what's up? I see you. You see me. Like we're two men. Like, I'm not here to fucking kill you. Like, what's up? But when you're in the, like, when you're in, like, the Northeast, I don't think they're violent.

1:13:06I don't think they're violent people. So it's like when you're in these nice white communities, there's no need to, like, there's no need to let me know that you're not a threat. I just find it fucking boring. I hate it. Fucking hate it. Do you think you'll hate it if you have kids? I think I'll just sack up and just fucking be born in white, you know? I think I'll just sack up. Just fucking sack up. because i know who i know what i want to do like same as you like well like you're different now but like what i want to do is not good for me it's not good for my not good for who i am and i miss it sometimes i think how nice it would just go fucking die in a hole and just like but you have to allow yourself to enjoy life too man do you know what i mean yeah like you have to give it a chance yeah i don't know man i just so i just find it so fucking boring like even if i'm allocating like a if i'm like watching a sunset if i'm like getting a cup of coffee like i just that's because your mind's racing you can't sit with yourself i'm just so violent you know it's like and that's why i train so much like i'm so violent but what's going through your head you know what i mean when you're when's the last time you sat with yourself and just sat still you probably can never do that yeah i'll just zone out my phone i'll use my dope addiction but no i like i know it is i'm just so fucking violent like i can't like i can't tell you like i don't know what it is like with other people but i cannot be in a fucking place and just not want to like violate the rights of others like i just i'm i'm fucking violent dude i just can't like it's all i want to do it's like if i'm inside i just i want to feel like i'm sure you like you know like when you hit someone on a glove on dude it's like a different kind of thud like Like, you could feel it on your knuckles.

1:14:53It's all like, I'm just violent. I can't stop thinking about it. But not violent. Do you think about, like, why you're like that? Just conditioning, you know? It's like, just conditioning. Dude, it's because that's where you feel at home. Your whole life's been like that. And I find it boring. And so, like, human beings will always revert. Like, why do you think women that are in abusive relationships and get the shit knocked out of them and raped and done it like they go from one abusive relationship to the next abusive relationship to the next and they never fucking get out of it because they never work to give anything i work i gotta wife so they all i gotta go to nice dinners and shit so they all they all revert they they revert back to what they know because what they know is home and they know how to handle it and that's what in my opinion no you're not sure that's what you're doing you're reverting to what but i'll go and function like i'll just go sit there and like smile and ask my wife how's she doing hey wife tell me about fuck tell me about tell me about your day tell me about your dream tell me about the fucking house you're clean you know like i sit there and i smile and i listen to it but like yeah dude you know it is like you fucking know how it goes but uh yeah so long story short i uh get arrested i hit these guys i went to and then i got i went to uh i was going through court i was finding two felony gbis which way over time maybe they didn't overcharge me so i uh had to get a bail bondsman so i had a i took a short notice fight on south africa in south africa when keeny cage to pay my bail bondsman i got done fighting i the court case got done two years later i'm like 22 years old my life fucking continues to suck i'm still fucking broke i'm still riding a bike to the gym i walk into i walk i walk into recruiters again and they say hey i know how is this thing still available they said yeah and i said but i've been arrested now but now i'm i've been arrested uh and they're like what'd you get charged for and i was like well i got charged with two uh assault and battery with a deadly weapon the guys just fucking laughed at me just to get the fuck out of here like you they don't military is real complicated with like assault charges it's a it's kind of a big no-no apparently so they just laugh which is weird because like you know you want people like but then i realized they don't want people like me because like people like me are liabilities you know like they want like you're the best candidate great household you could be molded you you have like a you know you could be molded like you have a inclination for violence like you're the best candidate for the military not me dude i'm like the guy that goes like fucking i'm like the guy to do with some horrible act i'm like oh yeah this is a fucking guy he did this horrible act now he's in fucking jail because he's a fucking retard but uh so yeah after that then i was like well i guess i'm a fighter now and then i got signed to ufc and then the rest of the history just kept fighting and the rest of the history dude how long was your dad in the picture so my dad was in the picture for me and my mom had like a pretty close relationship now not so much i still love my mom but i kind of look back like now when i talk to her just kind puts her in a bad fucking mood.

1:18:04I still love my mom. But I don't blame her, you know? It's like we're all just products of our, you know, the sins of our father, as you would say. He was in the picture for... He was in the picture until I was about 17. My mom... I woke up, obviously, full-time fire at the time. My mom was trying to go for work. My dad, like, had her locked up in the bedroom and, you know, saying, Hey, you fucking... You're banging your boss. you can't leave so i'm like 17 years old i go walk in and i just beat the out of him my mom leaves is that the first time you did that yeah first time did that it was like it was the most depressing thing ever you know it's like like man you really he's like laying on the floor bloody with a broken nose like bro you really like you were my boogeyman all night all my entire life dude you were the one that like ruined my life and you're just a pathetic piece of shit but um he he kind of changed so for the younger for the younger guys there was like an opioid epidemic it's way less now but like they were just giving it out like during the afghanistan time right they were just giving out they were just giving everybody out fucking opioids so uh that was like the biggest change in my dad with the opioids like i remember i walked home and he's just like fucking snorting Vicodin on the kitchen counter.

1:19:24I was like eighth grade. So once that, once about seventh grade, he's seventh, eighth grade. When he started, it's kind of ironic because the opioid epidemic happened right by Afghanistan. I'm not the conspiracy, but it's kind of like the timeline of it's very fucking strange, right? So he, once you get, once the opioids and the soul, his soul just vanished. just a weak fucking man like opioids are like opioids are like i mean if there was a satan it's opioids like it takes fucking everything from your identity which for his case is probably better so yeah then my mom moved out i lived in my mom's apartment i you know i'd go sleep in my brother's house go sleep on couches just couldn't do the fucking poor man racket until you know i made more money but um my dad died of cancer and uh i remember like uh he was doing hospice at my brother's house and uh i was i was like i don't know probably early 20s and uh i didn't know why or what i wanted to do with i wasn't gonna post it i wasn't gonna post it but my brother's like crying in the corner my dad's laying there fucking dead of cancer he had so much cancer that uh the doctor was like how did you not know that you had so much cancer like how did you not know something was wrong with you and it was so up on opioids you didn't know so uh that's always a funny story dude my dad one day somebody people always like oh sean got sexually assaulted and i never fight it because like so many people have had it happen to you and it's like you know if that happened it doesn't fucking matter like you're a piece of shit don't bring it up but uh one day my dad comes up to me as he's dying of cancer like it's come to jesus moment and he goes he goes sean you know it's really bad to you and your mom and your and your brother but i didn't molest you like well fuck dude i guess it could have been worse man things are not fucking me dude it could have been way worse so my my dad's fucking dead now laying in cans in the hospice and uh he's like frail you know and i snack a picture i was like i don't know why just like it was a moment of like this dead body of this piece of shit like there was a part of me that wanted to just like there was a part of me that just wanted to like have him in that moment forever and I just like my brother got so he's like my brother's crying in the corner he's like that's a piece of shit fucking what are you doing he's like why did you take it and they got me we got emailed I said fine I'll fucking delete it but there was a part of me that was just like looking at his dead fucking body I was like I just want to savor this moment you know I just want to like have this in my phone and just like so I can like look back on it not as like now I'd look back very differently but so yeah that was that's pretty much it how do you look back at it now is it different no sins of the father you know it's um it's alcohol man i tell anybody like it's it's a it's it's wild that alcohol is legal in america like i'm a libertarian i think she'd go buy meth if you want to buy meth but man it is so fucking wild i don't i never drank one of the things that saved me from not drinking and doing drugs was my grandfather was so racist and like and like even the american history x you know they would like there's a scene where they get mad at them for doing drugs so i always thought that like drinking and drugs well one it reminded of my dad which i hated and then it was reinforced by like i thought the drugs were for black people so i never did it wow yeah so that was like my racism i always say like i always say that if there was a devil if there was a devil man he's fucking he's always helped me through life you know like it was never god like the devil on my shoulder always like all the worst and wrong thing i could do but like if there was a if there was a devil like when i was a kid it was the only thing that kept me going you know damn dude that's some dark shit well i'm not religious but it's like it's true like that little devil inside you that like that hardens you and makes you prepared for life and like makes you like a psychopath like he was always there with me but uh do you ever think about what happens when you die no man i don't know i like my thing with the bible dude it's just like it's just so hard for me to think that like this small little region figured it out and like you know then you have like the the jews had the original and then the and then the christians came and they're like no this is it and then the muslims came like this is it it's like and they have a whole rest of the world i i don't i do believe in like creative Like, you can't look at existence and be like, like, I can't look at this and be like, and maybe this is my brain, can't fathom that.

1:24:18I can't look at this and be like, this is all just random. So I do believe in creative design, like intelligent design, but after that, I don't know. You don't think about what happens after you die. You've never thought about it. I mean, I try not to, you know, like... What happens when you do? I mean, it could just be a black screen. That would be the worst. Well, actually, that wouldn't be the worst, but... But you say that, but it's like you say that, but like. You wouldn't know. But it also like a moment of peace. Like you're just at peace. Like you don't exist anymore. You know, it's like no pain.

1:24:53Like you're good. You're just. So are you atheist? No, I'm just like agnostic. I don't know. But like there is something like poetic about like not existing anymore. You know, it's like. Like everyone's like reincarnation. Like I would fucking hate that. What if I get reincarnated in my own life again? i don't want to go through that shit again dude fuck that look i don't want don't fucking reincarnate me dude throw me whatever fucking hole you pulled me out of but uh yeah i don't know man i just yeah i don't know i just and what do you i mean like when you how do you wrap your head around all the theologies and like the eastern european and like or like the the the the east religions and like there's so many fucking different and like i don't i don't i just go off my own experiences man if that makes sense you know and and uh i'm no theologian i'm not gonna pump you full of scripture or anything like that but i've just had too many things happen man that like that but i have the same questions not to the degree that you do like if there's a god why am i going through this right now but i mean i have this i've seen shit you know what i mean not in childhood but in war and like done things and experienced things and i mean i should be ted 10 times over by now like i tried to kill myself in my garage and uh like i just reclined the seat back and left the car running and woke up in my room the whole gas the whole house smelled like exhaust those gasoline i'm like what the holy yes who's after the agency so probably low to mid-30s yeah you're just like i'm i'm empty i just well just like you're talking about dude like i just i had nothing yeah like you started thinking like but you started thinking like like nothing is better than what i have now you know it's like i just like if i don't like yeah i might be dead but like i shouldn't be here you know what i mean like i shouldn't be here i went down there and my it was it got so hot because i closed the ground you know i'd done the thing dude in my my the it had melted a hole into the gas tank how long were you thinking about before you did it i don't know no i'm saying like so like how long was i thinking about committing suicide i mean i'd always thought about it but i never really like went very far i wasn't like this is how i'm gonna do it i was why i hit faced at the blue martini in boca raton florida blacked out drunk don't know how i got home don't remember doing it don't remember anything and i mean thank god it didn't happen yeah but like i it's always been in the back of your mind for a while and you're just you fucked up enough to do it yeah i did the thing yeah and i'm still here you know I've had like a lot of stuff happen, dude.

1:27:54I mean, yeah, you get fucking shot at and bombs bomb. Yeah, of course, bro. Not that. Not that. That's not like this. That's not like this to me. That was combat. This was something woke my ass up that I don't remember. Took me out of that fucking garage, brought me upstairs. And even when I went inside, dude, I went inside and I, like, when I woke up, the whole house smelled like gas and like exhaust. us came down saw the pistol on my couch the pistol that I don't carry so I got the say it was a big gallon it was like a 45 and I was like I never I don't I'm broke I don't I don't shoot my 45 you know what I mean 45 ammo is expensive and I'm like oh so all my clothes are off so I went and got a gun to blow my brains out something that told me not to do that then I'm like what is this fucking smell man is the neighbor's gas on there so like what is happening and i went and i touched the garage door like the door that goes out to the garage the door was hot and i was like oh i think i hear my car running and so i'm like maybe something's on fire so maybe if i open the door like it'll you know the oxygen will hit it'll blow me to smithereens so then i tried to kill myself the next morning i didn't try to kill myself but i was like well if it happens great open the door nothing happens i see my car run and i look the seat is totally reclined back and the gas is dripping onto the muffler the muffler's on fire and i'm like holy so i mean i'm still drunk and drugged out on on painkillers and oxen like all of it you know and i'm like so i'm not thinking straight now i know like the other dush on this wouldn't trigger anything i'm like if i hit the garage door is it gonna spark like this whole place and uh so i hit it the garage door goes up and i like pulled my car out immediately and i'm like holy shit dude i fucking tried to kill myself like three times in a row here and uh and there's been like a lot of like weird uh just weird coincidences that have happened to me that that and one of them is i mean what i i thank god like entered my life and was like hey it but it's kind of crazy right like i'm gonna as an agnostic man like i mean you you're probably one of the most influential people right now and like uh and like the in the space you know well dude i mean do you ever think about why you're here what are you passionate about do you help anybody well it's funny as i actually lead to that but back to like the suicide thing um there's a point in my life where i can think about 24 7 couldn't stop thinking about it could not stop thinking about it like um driving on the highway thinking about it just like you start like really like making peace with the idea that like what is better whatever happens is better than now yeah you know like whatever happens is better than now that was even when i was in the ufc just like i used to fucking dude i used to have to hurt myself to bed and i like um like i couldn't sleep i just lay in bed couldn't sleep so i'd go by like like a candle I'd leave by my bed.

1:31:12I'd just like hover my hand over the candle just to burn myself back in to sleep. Like the only thing that could help me sleep was if I was like, if I hurt myself, or I'd like, I'd try a shock machine, but it wasn't really enough. It'd just lock you up. But like, yeah, I could just like, yeah, no, I mean, but the key is sobriety, right? So like what people don't realize it, it doesn't matter how fucked up you are.

1:31:38sobriety is like what keeps you from going over the edge because like think about you said i was fucking partying and i got home sobriety is like when you're fucked up and you start lowering that inhibition wall if i drank dude oh i would i'd be the fucking debtor in prison because like once that it wants that inhibition that's what drinking does it lowers your inhibition and so now you're like oh i'm down to do anything i mean i can't even do i can't even own a revolver like just like i have one little 22 revolver that i don't pull up with because i can't say every time i pick it up i can't stop thinking about killing myself so i was uh you should probably get rid of that i mean i just it's like duct tape it's all it's like a little one so it's funny um like uh when i was younger dude i had the girl saved my life stay inside every fucking night 38 i'm just fucking spinning it you know i'm like in my brain i'm just talking to her you know i'm fucking girl named jackie save my life jack thank you uh i'm spinning it i put a round in it i'm just like talking to her i'm just like hyper fixating on like playing russian roulette i'm like spinning spinning it and uh and i put it in i'm like i still even this day dude it gives me fucking chill it gives me fucking chill so i like uh i put the round in it i spin it i'm just like talking to her i was like do you we should i should do it and she's like no no don't do it don't do it and i was like no i mean like what are the odds like one in six like one in six like that's good odds i take those odds right so i fucking i put the gun in my head and i'm like sitting there as i don't have a rat i don't have a cocked yet it was a double action but i know it was a double single action revolver and then like i like i'm working myself up to it i'm working myself up to it like and like even though i'm having a conversation with her like in my heart like i have like i have every bit of like adrenaline and dopamine just being fucking saturated in my brain right now and i fucking love it right because it's like you like you know you're gonna need to say you're addicted adrenaline like you just have these like chemicals just saturating your fucking brain and I fucking I cock it back dude and she starts fucking crying and grabs the gun out of my hand says Sean knows what I fucking ever do if you do I'll leave you and I'm like let's just see what would happen opened it up I was about to shoot myself in the fucking head shit dude it literally saved my life dude saved my fucking life but like I don't know why when I'm around revolvers I can't stop thinking about it I dwell on it like I'm around revolvers it's like a game I never finished so if i have if i have a revolver i just like it's a game i never finish like there's a part of me that just wants i want one pull i just want one fucking pull you know just one just just one pull i just want to see what it feels like but uh that's right in the line i mean dude i had to death wish for a long time like we just talked about columbia i totally i 100 you get it bro but being like yeah you wanted to die down there yeah i didn't want to die i always thought it would be great yeah if i die in combat it's adrenaline amazing this would be great adrenaline like i think what it is when you go through so much trauma and like regardless of the fact of how well adjusted you are when you're living on such a high baseline everything else is just like it's not enough like when you're just going through life like i'm a fucking dead body right i'm like i'm a human meat bag just existing in fucking this earth right now like i would do anything to like feel that pull the trigger like it makes you want to cry because i love it like i would do any i just want to feel that like i want to feel that again you know but but again the same thing with you it's like you you're at such a high baseline that like you at level it's just it's so fucking you're just existing but going back to like purpose when i'm done fighting that's what i want to do like when you help people it's a different kind of feeling like when you actually not like not like these stupid fucking influencers like here's a bag of money homeless man like that that's not helping people like you're just you're doing this for like when you do a good deed and nobody knows about it dude it like like that little soul we're talking about earlier that that you chipped away at that you like that you that you fucking snuffed out every time you do like this random good deed that nobody knows about like you just feel like it's like it's like the engines being fucking trying to turn over again so when i'm done that's kind of what i want to do just like get in that kind of space whether any kind of like self-help pace just like kids anything i mean disaster relief anything so i want to make enough money to where like i don't need money and then live modestly and then just kind of focus on something like that just because it's the only thing that like makes me feel like i'd fucking you know it's the only thing that makes me feel like i'm not gonna want to eat a bowl when i'm done Well, it's funny you mention that, because we're talking about God and, you know what I mean, agnostic and all these things, and I mean, and why would God allow you to go through that as a kid?

1:36:46Well, dude, look at what you're talking about, man, and look how influential you are now. Like, you have, like, every fucking kid in the country, anybody who watches MMA, affiliated with MMA, they, dude, they all look up to you, man. All these kids look up to you. And we just went over - The sad thing is - Jure me out though. And we just went over how many kids experience this shit and they have nobody to look up to. And you're the fucking guy, man. I think it's one in four. You're the guy who made it out of that. Look at what you made out of yourself. Yeah. And so whenever you do decide to get involved, hopefully, you know, I mean, with whatever you want to do, but let's say you go down that avenue and you start, dude, you're a huge influence to kids that are going through that and they fucking see you, dude.

1:37:33And then they know there's a way out. Whereas you didn't know there was a way out, man. Well, now these kids can look at you and they can say, holy shit, like that dude went through that. Maybe it was worse than what I went through. And if he went through that, then I could fucking get out of this. And that's how God works, dude. That's how he works. you may make it but you know man like i don't know about god or that i just know that like when you when you help somebody feels good doesn't it it's it's a different kind of piece that you don't get from sex from violence like it's like it's a feeling that you get that feels real like every time you have like sex or violence it's a drug it's a fucking drug you're but when you do something good it's like a different kind of feeling man it's like it's it's it's fucking real i don't know what it is but it's like it's god bro i don't know but either way man so you're not open to it you got to be open to it to feel it to let it in yeah but i mean my thing is though like the whole like christian god you know like i'm not saying it's not a god and there isn't a god but like it's so hard for me to buy into like the bible dude like and then like the old fucking testament the fucking koran like fucking the fucking judaism like you know like oh yeah cut the foreskin off don't eat fucking pork dude send the fucking she bears like have you dove into it or are you just reading shit online i am really dove in i will say dude if i had to pick religion i am like and i say this i'm not like i'll talk about god and christ i am like i think that america is like a religion of christ not only is the religion of christ like christianity built america like different sects of christianity but like the new testament christ like everything like one of the greatest figures of america like it is a beacon of around america and i think that one of the biggest issues we have is we're going away from that me someone who grew up an atheist you know atheist like one of the biggest issues like we're losing our heritage like christianity christmas the new testament like that's the heritage of america and it's just like but i also like i i think that they're actively trying to like erode america from within like the illegal immigration like it's kind of funny so i wore ice hat i'm like super pro ice the only one thing trump fucking did right and um i was talking to uh somebody at the like the pi and you know super liberal very sweet sweet woman and uh i was like well let me tell you about illegal immigration like there's two coins of that me as a white man who invests money i love it like i love like as a republican white man who invests and like plan to make a living off investments i love illegal immigration why do i love illegal immigration like i i asked you you're right i should probably vote fucking democrat i'll make more money they come here they must work they lower wages for like every blue collar they come here they lower wages they must be housed i need a i need tax write-offs i have to go buy some uh this year i gotta buy a couple uh duplexes so guess what i need people to rent them they're gonna they're gonna cost they're gonna make the the cost of housing go up more people need housings now so i'm gonna make more money guess what these people come here they gotta buy shit they gotta buy apples they gotta buy cell phones they need fucking fuel they need to buy some of america's biggest companies well guess what i know in some of america's biggest companies i make a fuck ton of money with illegal immigration but what doesn't what doesn't help is your kids your kids now they're competing with people that would do more for less they're competing with people that want to live next to you they're like they're they're saturating the workforce they like illegal immigration is making your life significantly harder and you've been like sold this bill of like no but like republicans and mind you george bush wasn't like republicans are the biggest fucking advocates of illegal immigration like they you make up you make more money you make more money it's like this is why there's such as massive wealth transfer transferring because you just make more money with illegals so anyways you go and you explain this like you're you you are making your life for your children significantly harder by voting for open borders but like the liberal do they just can't grasp it they just can't like they're so programmed to think that like trump is bad like enforcement of borders are bad like you just can't separate them but i think it's also been like an active like campaign to do it you know well it started off with embracing christianity Now we're talking about illegal immigration, but I mean, I don't disagree with you.

1:42:23I think they're trying to erase it because it's a value system that they want destroyed. I think that's what all the alien shit is. But also, too, like, I mean, I hope your audience is aware, like, illegal immigration is only good for rich people. If you are blue collar, if you are, like, the average working man, illegal immigration is a way to devalue your life. And if you're rich, you only make money off of it. it's a way to transfer wealth from bottom to top i see what you're saying i mean i've never really thought of it that way but even legal immigration you know what i mean the h1b visas and all that kind of stuff which i'm not that's just i'm not against yeah but back to bad christianity i don't know because i think that you know i think that we should we should steal the best in class from everyone and bring them here yeah but when you get when you know what i mean with H1BBC, when you bring really smart tech people from India in, I mean, that destroys the chances of people here.

1:43:24Yeah, I mean, within reason. It doesn't destroy it. It makes it work. Within reason. It should be balanced. Within reason. You should take the best in the world. But yeah, no, but yeah, back to Christianity and vets and training. Sorry, guys. Getting a little fucking ADHD, the CT. I got to go do the, what's the drug? The Abagane. I got to start doing Abagane, right? No, but this is why, like, training with vets, I tell them, you guys got to train. Like, I obviously have a lot of friends that are at bats. Like, you just got to train, man. Life's so much better in the gym. What do you think? Who do you think you would help?

1:43:54Like, when you're all wrapped up with this? I could learn to do anything. I don't care. I could fucking, I could go help people rebuild a house. I could go help kids. And I could do anything. I just want to be in a position to where, like, I could give back. Right? so it's like i just don't find like say i were to go start a brand or a company or something i just start i don't find enjoyment in that like i don't want to go sell fucking an energy drink i don't want to go like sell nicotine i mean i might do that but it's like i just do it for fun of it but i just like there's no fulfillment in that what i want to do is like rather be like disaster relief helping kids in need like inner cities like i i just i feel like it's my duty to give back and also to like i mean i have so much like love from fans like you know i have like a different relationship with fans than most people do like um like even like in nfl players like or other usd fighters like me and my fans like we have like a very like close relationship like so i feel like the least i can do is just get back you you guys make me a paycheck you want you but you buy fights like you work your ass off to support me if i sell product you fucking buy my product like the least i could fucking do is like hey i'm rich now at least i could give back a little bit so that's kind of what i want to do i don't know what it is but something funny thing is you want to give back because you like the feeling it gives you it's not because the fans bro it's because of the fucking piece that brings you yeah and the but i just feel like the legacy feeling it's like necessary it's like it's just like it feels like it's some but it's like this is the issue with the world though man like nobody like gives a fuck anymore like everybody is so fucking selfish and self-centered that it's like and mind you it's hard life and kids but like nobody gives a fuck anymore it's just everybody is just like a dog eat dog world like church is becoming less no one gives a fuck anymore like even when like charlie kirk died dude and this is how fucked up i got like a lot of people related me but a lot of i remember watching him fucking get smoked and i was like damn that was fucking crazy like my initial reaction was like damn like oh shit like it was exciting and then i think i said it like man i'm so morally bankrupt that i watched this guy die and i thought it was like the coolest i made my fucking day highlight of my day you're like oh shit you know and a lot of people had that same and i and i agree i think charlie kirk is a fucking hero and i i it saddens me as like i look back and sadden me but i think i made i think i made a joke right after he died i think i said like well what i always say the best way to vote is with a rifle you know but i like but then i laughed and i looked back at like dude you were so morally bankrupt that like you just watched a guy get fucking smoked on stage and your first instinct was like oh that was fucking cool i want to watch it and and we all look at like oh same it's like the george carlin card like bad news we all fucking love that shit we love bad news there are some people that watch it and like horrified and like oh that's a fucking terrible thing but like i bet a massive percentage of this world or americans watch that and their instinct they got a little like oh shit oh shit not oh that's so sad and yeah dude america just like you're so we're so like morally fucking bankrupt now and i think a lot of it happened how old are 43 so i think a lot of it was like the wars in the middle east and you see a lot of it with uh like and i will like i don't want to be the guy like video games caused it but when video games intertwined with the military it created a very different breed of people right so like you're older than me so you didn't really you've probably seen it but you didn't experience it like video games intertwined with the military and you had like i mean like call of duty where like all day long you're fucking a little kid and you're just fucking shooting people grand theft auto and everyone's like oh like you can't blame video games like how do you think it is when little kids now are spending fucking five hours of their day shooting people in the fucking head playing grand theft auto being up hookers like there's been like a psyop to slowly fuck people up and desensitize people like americans are so fucking corrupt and morally bankrupt now it's like i don't even know how you fix it it's everything man it's but that's that's you know that's how evil works it's hollywood it's the lgbtq agenda and kids it you know and how hollywood portrayed that and how you can't have a legitimate acting career in hollywood unless you're willing to do a homosexual scene or a lesbian scene or promote those type of initiatives.

1:48:53It's social media. It's watching people that you know personally would never go for this shit, and then the next week, they're promoting it, and then the next week, they're the host of a big show. It's like, oh, I wonder how that happened. But I mean, the thing is, it's the porn industry. It's OnlyFans. I had OnlyFans hit me up with a sponsor. from Arizona to go fuck themselves. It's all this stuff. I considered it, but I was like, I don't give a fuck how much money, no amount of money you would, no amount of money in the world you can offer me that I would fucking do that. You could offer me fucking 10,$50 million.

1:49:28Only fans offered you a sponsorship? Yeah. And I said, there's no amount of money in the world you could offer me where I'd say yes. That's what I fucking love about you, man. You're like, you just, you know, you stay true to what you believe. I got a weird one. company that wants to sponsor me and like a lot of money too where i like i'm conflicted but then i'm always like but then a part of me where i'm like dude they fucking like sports gambling is the ufc people fucking people gamble but part of me feels like it's wrong but i'm like it's part of the ufc yeah fuck i might do it but um i mean when you watch charlie kirk at smoke what would you remember your like gut reaction my gut reaction was if you met him no i never met him My gut reaction was, he's not going to survive that.

1:50:13Yeah. But like I'm saying, when you watch it, were you like, oh, shit? Or were you just like, what was your emotional state, your baseline? Was it like a... Pissed. I was pissed. My initial thought was, there's no way he's going to survive that. Seeing people get shot in the neck, obviously, you know, hit the jugular. And then my other reaction was, who did it? who's uh i immediately started thinking like who did this yeah it was responsible the amount of like the amount of influence he had over people was fucking wild i remember like weeks after i mean people were finding god like it was a it was a different i was watching from like a very like neutral perspective like i was watching it from like very neutral standpoint like a part of me was like this is fucking crazy like I kind of question the sanity of Americans and I say that and I say that like

1:51:12again I love Charlie everything Charlie says even towards the end with Israel like the only thing that I he fucked me off on was like in the beginning when he was a super Zionist but as he started moving away from being a Zionist like man dude me and you everything you say I agree with now but like watching people's reactions to me was kind of fucking nuts like me motherfuckers were finding god like people started changing their whole identity around charlie they like his reels were everywhere i'm like i just like i don't know i just kind of wrap my head around i was like it's just so strange to me that like people are that influential like that people can be influenced so much.

1:51:53I think what's going on, man, because there's a huge revival happening in Christianity right now. Massive, massive. Again, I advocate for Christianity all the time. I tell people when I fight, I talk about Christianity. If you could wake up tomorrow and become a Christian, I wish you the best and we need more of that. Well, what's happening is there's just nothing that makes sense in the world anymore. How do you make sense of anything that's going on with this administration how do you make sense of anything that's going on with the last administration i got banned from the white house dude i know i mean it's like what and and honestly we'll go into that but i don't that's what that's what the only thing that makes sense is what's in the book i don't blame them for banning me because some asshole would have put a fucking camera in front of my face and me i would have been like that little voice pop my head guys i'm just here i'm not fucking kids like i'm just fucking here watching fights so i don't i think it's absolutely absurd that you got banned from trump's 80th birthday party i mean america's 250.

1:52:55that was celebrated on trump's 80th birthday party 20 days before the america's 250. yeah so uh what a bunch of after the fight it's actually on video i was like hunter dude like i wanna i wanna go to the fight so yeah we'll get it done i'm like sweet man let's go because like to me i could like separate politics and people like like i i met trump he's a nice He's a nice fucking guy. He's sincere with his actions. He asks you a question, and maybe it's just years of being Trump. If you meet him, you will like him. He is a nice fucking guy. He will ask you questions sincerely. Again, you've met Trump, dude.

1:53:32Was that your... Did you get that take? That was a very charismatic guy. Yeah, I did like him. I don't anymore. But even me, I just understand. And like, I don't, I don't really hate people. Like, I don't, I don't hate people in a sense. Like, um, so like after, uh, after Charlie died, like you said, I want to find that guy whoever did that. And like, you had this thing of like, hate, like, and it's so natural, right? You're seeing this beloved guy, a family guy die, but like, maybe it's because I'm so like disconnected to things. is like i just don't like i just don't have it in me like i mean i gotta go do a horrible act and not hate but it's like so what i mean by that about like hating people i just my buddy so i was online i was maybe it's because i'm so disconnected i just i just don't dude i just don't like there's nobody i've met as of now that that i hate or i dislike like uh you take some weird fucking tranny that like cuts his dick off and like like i think you're fucking mentally ill i think you're fucked up i think that you are an enemy of america i think that you are a bad guy for america but i don't fucking i don't hate you dude a lot of them grew up like you yeah i brought one on here like i just i wanted to understand i brought chris back did he like did he retransition back yeah yeah and i so i brought him on because i mean obviously who's been ostracized from the SEAL teams, but I was like, I've always been kind of infatuated, like, how can somebody, like, do this to themselves?

1:55:12Like, how does it work? Like, what's going on mentally? What's the psychology behind this shit? And he grew up like you did. And he was the whipping boy of the family. He got sexually molested. He got the shit beat out of him every single fucking day. Became a SEAL. Left the SEAL teams. riding with the hell's angels trying to get like totally fucking baked on coke and every other drug you can think of and he so he wanted to get better he started going to therapy does he believe in christ now is he christian now he is yeah and people when they brought when he brought it up when he brought it up in therapy once i told you always goes back to childhood right and And he had mentioned in the therapy session that when he was a kid, he would go up to the attic and put on his sister's dress.

1:56:08And he was really secretive about it. He didn't want anybody to see. He'd put on the dress and look at himself in the mirror. And the psychologist or psychiatrist, whichever it was, convinced him that he wanted to be a woman. No shit. and had him write the book, The Warrior Princess, and while he was baked out on coke and all the other drugs, had him sign the rights to the book over to her, and he didn't want to go through with the book, and she was like, tough shit, buddy. You signed the rights over. I own it and released it, and when he came on the show, he's like, dude, I never wanted to be a woman.

1:56:49He's like, I never wanted to change. He goes, when I was a kid, he goes, this all got sunk in my head and then i got accepted the the the the lgbtq community like love bombed me and i've never felt like that amount of love ever in my life i understand that and he goes all i want all he goes the only reason i went up to the attic to put my sister's dress on he goes it's because i just didn't want to be me and he goes that's the only way i could feel that I could escape like those feelings of being molested by the neighbor and being the getting the shit kicked out of me by my fucking dad every single day of my life and he goes so I would sneak up there and put that on and that's the only way that I could pretend that I wasn't me and when you hear that it's like you see what I'm saying dude like and I don't like I don't I don't fucking hate these people like right like I I think they're mentally ill and I think they're fucked up but like just said to hate somebody to me i just don't have it like i just don't have it in me like if you right now if you said there's a pedophile i don't hate him i would i would take a gun and shoot him in the fucking head and i'd probably enjoy the act of doing it but it's like you're just like like i just don't really have that much i don't really have that much hate in me these days it's just like it's just it's over it so like when you're talking about like um uh you feel feel that like people need an identity you know like and the him getting love bombed by the lgbt community like him abserting that identity you know like we had an identity it was christianity that was our identity people would wake up and they would uh you know they'd they'd wake up and they'd look at the sun and their identity was thank you for giving me a son you know they would uh drink water they would think that was our identity and now you just have like these godless people they're just stumbling through the earth with zero identity and it's just like it's engineered man yeah it's engineered it's an agenda yeah but you know back to the trump thing i get why he didn't i wouldn't i would have banned me too i i would have banned me too i just don't have it in me to like just shut the fuck up like they would have put a camera in my face i would have made a joke fuck i would probably made a joke to trump dude you know but i will say dude like it's it is kind of crazy dude how mainstream that how unpopular trump is because i'll go to places like i'm in florida i'm in a texas guy like when we're talking about like hardcore republicans and even these guys are like i just i can't do anymore trump i just like i feel fucking betrayed and like trump to me everyone's like like i was talking this like really wealthy guy about like iran and he was like ah fuck it whatever i don't care i'm like dude you don't care because like you've you're fucking a million you're a multi-millionaire i was like dude you got to think about like every other american and more florida texas that are making like what is the average like i think it's like 50 60 000 so you take somebody making 60 000 and now you add 4 % inflation, a metric fuck ton of gas.

2:00:01You're adding thousands of dollars a year to their life. You are crushing families. Not me. Me and you, we don't give a fuck. Gas could be$100 a gallon. We don't give a fuck. But it's like the people that have voted you, that rallied around you, you actively just fucking spit in their fucking face. For what? Have you been to a Trump rally? No. oh dude it's fucking nuts no so like when you're at a trump rally you're like oh i could definitely see how hitler happened like i'm not even i'm not fucking joking to you dude when you go to a trump rally it makes you question the sanity of everybody like trump's up there talking about like we're gonna throw people in jail for burning the flag and i'm like you know like i mean again you shouldn't do it but it's like you know there is there is a fucking constitution i'm looking at vivek and And Vivek is just fucking rubbing his head.

2:00:57He gets out and leaves the Trump rally. And I'm like, ah, fuck. And everybody else is just fucking full-send. Yeah, fuck, I'm throwing them in jail. If Trump said, go grab a gun and go do anything, they would fucking do it. They would fucking do it. I know. It's a cult. And that's one of the things about Christianity. You're not supposed to put, you know, you don't put your faith in man. That's also about you. what I have respected you for so much is you were one of the OG thinkers where you're just like, especially in your fucking space, you were one of the OGs that like, wait a minute, like, just stop.

2:01:35What are you fucking doing? Like, what the fuck's going on? And not many people did that. Not many people did that. You were one of the, you were, you were one of the biggest voices and opponents to war. You know, it's like, if somebody like, if you were the complete opposite, you would, you would. You would convince so many people. If right now you came right here and you started talking about how good it is and we should double down and do more, millions of people would listen to you and advocate for it. I can't do it. I can't be chained. And that's what this administration, probably every administration has done.

2:02:12Right when he got in there, I got an invite to, I can't remember, go somewhere. And I could fly on Air Force One with him and I could go to the White House and fly on Marine One. ironically, I was going to have to pay for the flight of Marine One. And I was like, one, no. Two, I know what the fuck you're doing. You're trying to, like, capture me and put chains on me so that I can never leave you. You want to make it look like I'm a part of whatever the fuck you have going on. And I am. And I'm an independent thinker. I will never do that. I will never put... I will never willingly put myself in...

2:02:50in a position where that I can appear to be captured by... by a specific movement. Like, I am my own person. Well... And I'll never give up that freedom. I always say, like, or always, like, I have this thought that, like, if you want to see a man's character see how he acts to a bad guy who's nice and so what i mean by that is like when you meet bad fucking people that do bad things you're the first one to shake your hand and like hold the door for you and like where like character matters and like your foundation matters if you could stop and be like wait a minute like i don't give a fuck how nice you are to me like you're not gonna like you're not gonna get me to you're not gonna coerce me Like you're not going to fucking sociopath and make me do a bad deed.

2:03:45And so like with Trump in a sense, he's kind of like that way, man. Again, I know Tucker Carlson said that like he thinks he is like demon. I don't believe that. Like he's demonic. But when you meet him, he's so charismatic and he's so nice that you're like, you almost could overlook. If you were like, if you don't have a strong will and a strong character, you could almost. Sucked in. Yeah. you could just get sucked in and then like and you just become part of the machine it's it's so hard when you meet charismatic people like that that are just so fucking good at getting you to lower your guard and be accepted and i mean again go to a trump rally but um yeah so i i don't blame i don't blame trump for forgetting me but man they were so weird even me like i get so much hate now from going back to the Navy SEAL thing.

2:04:36Like, you know, when I was like pro MAGA, dude, I had so much, like, so much more love from people. We were like, and I don't give a fuck. But the moment I like came out and said, hey man, the list is a little fucking weird. Like, and then like - I feel your pain. Like, you know, you're like, like I'm just asking fucking questions. You're like, well, what do you mean? I'm like, well, dude, let me tell you that has history that I know it. trump reluctantly signed the bill like he reluctantly signed the freedom to to release the files fucking guy has pam bondy who he put in have his personal lawyer handle all todd blanche have all file releases he handles all redactions fucking three get three million documents out of six million and then and then what happens after that uh he goes and interviews trump's personal fucking lawyer goes and interviews maxwell and says uh the only thing she says is he didn't no involvement no involvement the next day dude i have a buddy who's a prison guard he was telling me about the prison she's in and dude it's nice i could go to that fucking prison i got tvs got puppies and shit and it's like like how do you guys not like how does that not concern like how could you not like just hear that and be like huh like i just like how do you not bro like how do you not and i'm not even saying trump did it but i believe that trump is protecting and hiding powerful fucking people and he's used the government to do it and like i don't give a fuck how you hate me you cannot give me an explanation for this i've been trying to simplify my routine lately especially around training because when you're lifting, recovering, traveling, and trying to stay consistent, it's easy to end up with a whole countertop full of different products.

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2:08:57I could not fathom getting so much manipulation of information to get the gay tranny guy to agree, to get him to agree. I can't wrap my head around that little conspiracy. I mean, there's too many weird things that have happened. I can't name them all, but one of them, you know, I mean, what did they do? They concreted over the site. I mean, it's just Candace told me that it was done in the middle of a pentagram, And I personally do think that this is all, I think everything now is good versus evil. And there is a demonic element. Oh, 100%. But I mean, but again, 100%. If you look at some of the rituals and I mean, the stuff that was going on in the Epstein files, it's all ritualistic.

2:09:41I mean, look at Alex. Human sacrifice. Alex infiltrated Bohemian Grove. Like, what are you talking about, dude? Burning effigies. Have you ever took a lie detector test? No, you haven't took a lie detector test? okay i fucking i hate cash patel so much like cash patel to me is like the weakest fucking man in the world fucking like you look at cash patel and you're like dude you were like you were as weak as fucking dirt i cannot stand him so funny funny enough uh i'm curious your take on this and this is like so there's this manager ollie abaziz He's fucking whatever the fuck. One of the biggest managers in the UFC.

2:10:21Spoke at Trump rallies. Like, manages everybody. Let me tell you this guy's fucking backstory. And by the way, he's best friends with Cash Patel. Best fucking friends with Cash Patel. So I started thinking about this because all these UFC fighters want to hang out with a bunch of FBI agents. So I'm like, why are they like, you didn't call me, guys? Like, I fucking love law enforcement. Like, why didn't you call me? And I started looking at Ollie and all these pictures. one of the biggest managers in the ufc this is this is his accolades after 9 11 it's all in a book there's a a book it won like the fucking like uh some like fancy award in new york some liberal fucking award is so it's like it's a very credible book he he gets arrested after 9 11 with a bunch of passports or like ids or fake documentation he's locked up on felony charges of like falsifying information and this happened like weeks after 9-11 this is what i know don't fucking sue me this is what i know and this is what the book says so he's in a colorado lockout and then he gets approached by the fbi they called him uh i think he was they have it's like they even have his number like this is all factual what i'm saying they had his like a his informant number they have him as a high paid informant like spying on like i don't know what organizations but like some like muslim brotherhood something like and he's traveling here and here and there and uh he gets out they give him a lie detector test because they suspect him lying his nickname was the dolphin because he would talk so much they they suspect him for lying so they give him a lie detector test and he fails and they uh they let him go he can't if he leaves the country they want him back in like i mean he is like by all by all information known this motherfucker is a snitch terrorist that like if you when you look at all pieces of information and he goes and is best friends with fucking cash patel i'm sure i'm sure he goes to cash patel like hey brother brother brother let me let me you want to go meet khabib you want to go meet justin gaethje i go meet justin gaethje and it's like you just look at these like these things like man dude like the fuck you guys like what the fuck dude it's par for the course man but like so the country is not well the the president's kids are buying private island are buying private islands with bunkers now if the country was doing well why would the president's kids be doing that i mean it there's just there's so many i get i get painted as a a like i'm taking money from Qatar or something I'm sorry I'm not the one that took a 400 million dollar jet from Qatar maybe you should fucking look excuse me kind of funny back to love dude Israel like loved me at one point so like Israel I mean like I would get messages from Israel like because they fucking love me so after October 7th because I've been like really eating the fucking Zionist propaganda most my life and it took kind of October 7th to like and I'm no like I'm no like fan like I'm not like i'm not like the muslim like i all the muslim guys i know are generally really fucking cool like i train because you know in fighting you train with a lot of them they're generally really cool they don't want to come bring fucking sharia law they just want to train get a fucking paycheck and go back to fucking dagestan where the fuck they're from and like they're generally cool fucking people so like my experience with muslims isn't like the propaganda that they're that they feed me like i'm assuming that there are a lot of radical fucking muslims that like want to go blow up shit i'm assuming that is the case but like my experience i train with them hey brother how you doing they go back home to their family and they and that's my experience right i'm sure you might have a different experience that's my experience no man i i'm i used to hate him obviously i mean i used to hate him because of what i did but you know that flag right there was given to me by a really good friend of mine who's muslim and he was a u.s he's a u.s or an American Afghan citizen.

2:14:29And he was Army intelligence, and he's really tied to the resistance that's going on over there right now. Do you know about that? No. So the Taliban has basically assassinated all of our partners and, I mean, shot them in the back. Yeah, we fucking re-read their wives, Steve. And so the resistance is kind of like the free party. You know what I mean? They want free Afghanistan. And so he goes over there and he brought that flag back. He uncovered this thing. I'll tell you about it in a minute. But he brought that flag back. He recovered it from the Taliban burning it in Afghanistan. And he gave it to me on this show.

2:15:08And he wanted everybody in America and the world to know that the United States is funding the Taliban in cash,$40 to$87 million in cash a week. and so when you think about that and you think about the iran war and what's the narrative on the iran war oh they've been our enemies for 47 years and they've been killing our people and they they equipped uh the iraqi insurgents with efps and all this and they did they are they are they did do that but don't feed me that fucking line of bullshit about we're going after our enemies when your administration is sending$40 to$87 million a fucking week to the Taliban who we were directly fighting.

2:16:01Like what, fucking 20 years? So don't paint me that bullshit. That works on the majority of the country because they don't know what's really going on. But don't tell me about this. They've been our enemy for 47 years and you give a shit about our enemy when you're fucking paying our real enemy right there. Yeah. It's everything that they are telling us is a fucking lie. Because I grew up in the 90s, and after 9-11, I mean, again, you've experienced it. You were fucking, you know, like, you've lived it. But I, like, Muslim to me was like the fucking boogeyman. The Muslim is bad. The Muslim's fucking bad.

2:16:38Like, and we're so propagandized. So after October 7th, I was, like, full saying, like, Muslim bad, Hamas bad. Dude, go in there, get your fucking people back. And the Israelis loved it, because they're like, yeah, Sean's saying, go to fucking war. Go get your people back. And I stand by that, although I think Israel knew about October 7th. I mean, you're talking about a country. I think it's about the Kyivica. Has that been proven? Yeah. I mean, you're talking about a country that has a smaller border than fucking New Jersey that is literally a prison. And you're telling me that you didn't know.

2:17:12You gave people pagers, and you put them all over the terrorist organization. You didn't see these people buying paragliders, tractors, welding shit. You fucking knew. You fucking knew. And then you look at their response. It wasn't like a response of like, we're going to go get our people back. They go like the satellite images. It's almost like they needed it to happen so that they can do everything that they're doing right now. And this is where like, and this is where Israel. I don't like 9-11. Yeah, fuck, dude. And this is where like, and this is where Israel and me like, and now people in Israel fucking hate me.

2:17:46like it's funny you're loved by them then you're hated because it's like dude you made me realize like israel deprogrammed me because i'm watching what you guys did to gaza and we're not seeing like i don't see when i see a dead body i don't see a fucking jihadist with an ak i'm seeing a little girl being pulled out of a fucking building i see map images of this like piece of land that like is now a demolition site like you are committing on a very small scale a genocide you were you were or like one of they lost me there was like one of our fucking zionist leaders i think maybe it was like tucker or something or like he's your interview and he said well what would you do if uh what what did we do to hitler like what would we do to the nazis referring to like we're having a proportional response to what they're doing i'm like well what you wouldn't do you wouldn't go over there and fucking murder kids like we didn't go to fucking war ii we didn't go fucking murder kids we liberated them and we rebuilt germany to one of the most fucking successful countries in the region that's what we did after war ii we didn't go flatten everybody and fucking murder kids like don't give me that crazy shit so like during this this course of like i really deprogrammed myself from from like from israel the israeli propaganda and And I don't think, like, I'm not a Candace Elwin.

2:19:11It's like, I don't think there's like a secret, like tiny hat room where guys are sitting around a table. Like we're going to overthrow America. We're going to do this and do that. What people make a mistake on, conspiracies don't, like patterns don't always equal conspiracies. There can be a pattern, but just because there's a pattern doesn't mean there's like some, like, you know, that there's just because there's a pattern doesn't mean there's some like puppeteer pulling the strings like i want to say this right and i don't want to seem like i'm not anti-semitic i don't give a fuck if you're a jew nobody i don't know like everybody says like oh jews this jews this most jews i know agree with me like my my boy aiden ross he would sit here with us jewish guy he's like one of the owners of kick he would sit here and agree with everything they're saying like most jewish people i know when we have these conversations they're like yeah dude you're right i'm not a fucking zionist i'm just born a fucking jew you know but like if you look at and i'm kind of going to deepen a rabbit hole i want people to like to understand this because you have people like candace owens and i know she's your friend but like candace owens doesn't do anybody a service so like candace owens she's so over the top that she's used as a is a weapon against like thought because you have these she says all this crazy shit like charlie kirk's a time traveler like blah blah blah blah and every now and then she'll sprinkle in truth to what she says but really all she does is like belittle the movement and water the movement down of what it is what it is we when you want to talk about like the jewish propaganda or the israeli propaganda it is very fucking simple it is very fucking simple they only care like they only care about israel they want israel to be this nation there's no there there's no like there's no force behind them saying that we're going to destroy america what they advocate for due to the holocaust due to them not really having a country they advocate for things that they believe are right for the world that actively destroy america so what i mean by that is like you have george soros george soros when he's advocating for open borders you need to understand he's coming from a place to where like his his people they had no home they were kicked out of this kicked out of that for reasons why you know they were kicked out of here they were kicked out of there so like when george soros advocates for this he is advocating from a place of like i think this is good for the world we should have open borders we should you should be able to migrate which is ironic because fucking israel is a fucking prison go migrate to israel let me know how that goes but but what is good for you is not good for us but it's like they're not they're not doing it and like a hatred or you take like people often talk about like nazi germany um the like one of the early founders of like transgenderism is you guys could all fact check me on this but uh it was a jewish a jew guy he was a he was a homosexual doctor and i think that it's also like a i think it's also like a curse of intelligence right like like jewish people have on average of higher cues they're just they're more intelligent so like generally sometimes like when you look when you're overly intelligent you start breaking norms right so like when you're really intelligent and you could like fathom like the intricacies of the world and like you start breaking down norms so like why is gender a male and a female like why is it not on a spectrum like you know i'm saying because you could start really like say you're not religious you could start making cases for like well humanity in a thousand years would it not be better if there was no gender and you could start making these like cases and orchestrating the world that you want to be in and this is where you need to get into the old testament but now but i'm not saying we're coming from a lot of this stuff is in there where they talk about a genderless god this shit is all like happened i will say let me let me tell you one thing dude i do find it really odd the correlation between the like bible and and like what it is now right Right.

2:23:35So back to like the Jews promoting, you know, promoting this ideology that like Hitler hated. So Hitler goes and expels these people. But I don't think that like I don't think that like the George Soros, like the Jewish elite. The issue is you have such a small population with such a mass amount of wealth that has way too much power. Like you're such a small population. You shouldn't have this much control over like millions of people. If you make up like 3 % of the world, why do you have so much of a voice? I mean, I'm not saying like no persecution, but like you, you're acting and financing things that people don't agree with.

2:24:13But like going back to, you know, people like, why does the Israel lobby George Soros? Why are they, you know, one of the first movements of communists, like five people were like one of the main, one of the, one of the main people of like the communist movement were like Israeli, we're Jewish. not Israeli Jewish. So what you have is you have people like Candace Owens going and saying, there's like this Jewish elite around a table, pulling strings, trying to destroy America. When that's not the case, you have hyper-intelligent people, hyper-wealthy people doing what they believe is the right thing to do.

2:24:52The thing they believe is the right thing to do is have open borders, to have a fluid gender. This is why they go to Hollywood and they push it. There's no, there's no evil strings. This is what they believe in their heart is the right thing to do. And usually if you're hyper intelligent, you're more liberal. That's just how it works. I don't know, man. I'm going to disagree with you on that one because one with Candace, I think Candace is. I love Candace on the right trap with a lot of things. There's a lot of things that I'm unsure of that she says. And, um, okay, let me ask you why this one, but hold on.

2:25:28And I don't like you are kind of. Grouping all these Jewish people together. Well, I'm not because I have a lot of Jewish friends, Israelis together. And I don't believe that either. I believe that there is a the the the. The people that are there under right now. Have an agenda. I think it's been there for a long time. And I think there is definitely a hundred percent. Well, let me explain. Maybe not to destroy America. There's two parts. But they have completely infiltrated American politics through APEC, through Hollywood. I mean, there are a lot of things to push the Zionist agenda. But why is Hollywood?

2:26:11To propagandize the United States with the Zionist agenda. We've bought off on this for a long time. We've fought a lot of the wars for them. Those are our people. But yes, it will. And so if you think about it, it's actually a genius plan because we are the proxy. Like, okay, let's unpack. Just like Hamas is a proxy. We are the proxy. Who's funding the majority of the war in Iran right now? Yeah, I get it. We are. Who's, who, who, you know what I'm saying? And this is coming from Zionist influence. I have questions. And so there are powerful people in all, I mean, in all these, look who owns all the media companies.

2:26:57So, okay. Let's unpack. It's all the Zionist agenda. I got questions. I got questions. Let's unpack. So you say all wars. And by again, let's talk and let's remember patterns don't always be equal conspiracy. Sometimes there's patterns that just happen to align and they're together. So go back to the petrodollar. we had an agreement when was it fucking the the 50s under one president that we would have a security pact to help to help you know stabilize the region so what happens and i believe that this aligned with america i mean there was a speech about don't letting the military industrial complex get involved i mean how many how many politicians take money from the military industrial compacts 100 of them 100 of them so i think that so you have the u.s agrees we will stabilize the region use our u.s dollar you buy oil with us we'll we'll make sure everything's fucking peachy keen and you can verify i mean i'm sure you know more about this world than i do so saddam hussein goes and you know goes and does saddam hussein he goes and invades kuwait he just got after just got done a bloody war with iran goes and invades kuwait and then now the u.s is like they're looking at this opportunity of like okay we got to go this is our job you use our petrodollar we need to do this now is it also in the best interest of israel that saddam hussein and the iraq government was overthrown a hundred percent a hundred percent it is in the best interests of israel if saddam hussein iraq who is not a friend of iran or israel gets overthrown so you have israel is a hundred percent lobbying the u.s government to go fucking do this but it is also in our interest to go and stabilize a region and become closer with these massive oil distributors and put bases there you see i'm saying now mind you our founding fathers very much worn foreign entanglement but you have the military industrial complex is making a lot of money out of this you have israel who obviously doesn't like saddam hussein in iraq and you have them lobbying making a case and presenting to our leaders hey no we they we did this security agreement we have the pact go over there stabilize so we go over there we i'm just trying to like i'm just breaking this down so people understand so like you could you could put fact to conspiracy because sometimes conspiracy it's like it just puts you down this rabbit hole it doesn't make sense what i'm saying is not a conspiracy this is true well no what i'm saying is true 15 or 16 million dollars into a local kentucky congressional but what i'm saying is true too is rate of the israeli lobby the israeli lobby the military industrial complex the oil industry all these people all lobbied us to go get involved with Iraq.

2:30:00And we go, we overthrow, we overthrow and we leave. But what did we do? We left bases in, we left bases in the Gulf state, the, you know, the Ula rich countries. And this is just like, I need to, I need to talk on facts. We could talk about 9-11 and like the Jews did 9-11, but like that doesn't, that doesn't get us anywhere. If we are just talking about conspiracy all you do is you get down these fucking rabbit holes so we go we put it's also it's also not a conspiracy that barium addelson pumped 300 million dollars well i'm getting there we're getting there so now we're right after we're right after the first uh iraq evasion we leave we we fucking leave we leave him in power we fucking leave we leave bases all over the middle east now right and we did it as a security agreement here we want oil to flow here's our bases you buy this you strengthen our dollar the fucking the jew loves it that israel loves it because we have bases there we're stronger 9-11 happens the accepted theory for 9-11 is osama bin laden and a lot of saudis by the way not just not just him i mean it's pretty obvious that he had help from the saudi government pissed off he i mean he wrote true or not he wrote that like we have bases there he was pissed off that we're in these holy cities he want to go and he's also pissed off because israel because we give a fuck ton of money to israel and we were normalizing relationships with him so he's pissed off we he has there's a foreign nation occupying his country we are giving a metric fuck ton of money to israel to go to go you know illegal occupation to go commit genocide to go create war so he goes and this is just the accepted theory we can't talk about conspiracy we're just talking about what we know so he goes you know gets a bunch of saudi nationals flies a flies a building playing in a building he says hey well you guys have occupied my place you give israel this this is my way of striking back so and this is where like america starts kind of going off the fucking deep end where like it's kind of more harder to like it's kind of harder now to like put pieces together because weird shit's happening even more now so we go and we invade afghanistan we go and we invade afghanistan we we start fighting the taliban you're like for what for what you know israel loves it israel loves it we have more bases there we have more footprint and all of a sudden you have the israeli lobby and this is where like and and this is to me if you want to identify a point in history when israel became the known bad guy was a second invasion of iraq because you had this is where like the fucking mass came off and you had bb on front of everybody say no there's weapons of mass destruction they have fucking nukes you guys like they got they got chemical weapons they gas the curds like and off that alone we use it hey You know, the Israelis are saying that WNDs.

2:33:06All the intelligence community is saying you have WNDs. Actually, we went in anyways. And so I brought in this guy, Pete Blaver. He was a colonel at Delta that kind of led the invasion. And we just had this episode. It was 12 hours long. No shit. Yeah. And so we, he got, so they asked Delta to do, you know, whatever surveillance. And then they found the WMD factory. There's this big air thing on top of a building that is, that's, that's whatever, a, a, whatever, an air purifier. I can't, I can't, I'm having a brain thing right now, but whatever, the big, the air purification system. chemical weapons so they have that and then on the side they've got here's a big missile we see it we can see it in the imagery but the imagery back then wasn't like it is today and then they see you know the sentry guard that's outside guarding the the facility and they get this out to delta and pete says to them hey and if i'm if i'm messing any of this up you can go watch the episode and correct me but this is the basis and they have so they get it to pete's team over at delta and pete tells uh whoever sent it the current administration we don't want to know anything of what you guys think this is we're going to analyze it ourselves and and and we'll get you we don't want to be influenced with your with what you have to say the air purification system on the roof wound up being an air conditioning unit the missile on the side of the building wound up being a water tank, a big water truck, because they're in the middle of the desert, and that's how they get water.

2:35:07They have to bring in the water and pump it in. And the sentry outside of the building was just a guy taking a piss. And then they sent that intelligence back, totally disregarded it, But then a couple of days later, Colin Powell is going over the exact same imagery and saying that we're going to go invade Iraq. So again, same thing with the Gulf of Tonga. You have an Israeli lobby, you have a military industrial complex, and you have rich businessmen that push and push this. So it's like, it's not like there is no like group of elites pulling strings. Like this is like, you have wealthy people that benefit off these things.

2:35:47This is why it happens. It's like, this is why it happens. There's no secret cabal pushing this. You have a military industrial complex, Boeing. You have Israel. Yeah, fuck, let's go take this guy out. This is going to be good for us. Take this out. And then it fucking happens. And this is how it happens. And it's not that the government is compromised on so many fucking levels, from the military industrial complex to Israel to lobbyists. The government is so compromised that the only thing that would fix the government is if either like you elected a radical uh person or a revolution or a violent revolution there's nothing else that will fix it it is they are ticks and they're embedded in trump and everybody else i mean even like man even iran dude i like i think too a lot of the new newer generation they don't know what it was like to grow up in the 90s i mean it was just like we were in fucking every year of my life we're in war we're in some war every year of my life we're in a war and our grand and our parents they just didn't know any better because they didn't have the information that we had so they would all they would see in fox news is like yeah saddam hussein he has nukes he's gonna fucking kill us or he has chemical weapons he's gonna kill us and they didn't have like they didn't have the information that we have so like it's up to like us push back and like this is why you do such a great service because you're pushing back but i just don't think it does anybody a service when you start getting in the realm of conspiracy when you don't need conspiracy to prove a point it's a military industrial complex it's lobbyists it's maren adelson it's the israeli aipac they're just they've infected the government like it's that simple there's no like there's i think it's a little bit of all of it but it's a little bit of all but i'm not gonna but i don't get once i once i once i think i know what it is or i'm 99 percent sure i know what it is but like i quit digging because you throw a speculative narrative out that's a new term i got the other day instead of conspiracy theory because because those conspiracy theory is a is a new idea you know and and i don't think you should necessarily discredit new ideas or speculative narratives yeah but because it It doesn't fit a certain agenda.

2:38:14It's something that should be looked into. And once it's disproven, then you disprove it. You don't just label it. Yeah, but again, what it is, you're identifying patterns. Like, you're identifying patterns and you're drawing conclusions that aren't that. Like, just because things align, there's patterns. It doesn't mean there's like, it doesn't mean there's some puppeteer. There's patterns all over the world, the government, and there's no puppeteer. so like what candace what i think she fucks up on and like we're talking about the big voices like she's saying there's a puppeteer you have interests that are aligned together eight like well those are multiple puppeteers yeah but i mean they're not really puppeteers because they just want what they want israel wants that's a puppeteer yeah but it's like it's pretty obvious like israel wants to israel wants to control gaza they want the greater israel like there is no anytime you ever talk to Israeli and they let their fucking guard down i'm sure you have they want the greater Israel the illegal settlements they they like if you ever talk to someone from Israel and they let their and a lot of them don't but if they let their guard down for a second you're very aware of what they want like have you ever experienced that i train i know a lot of Israelis that's why i'm saying every now and then they'll let their guard down like they'll be like they think they're in a safe place and all of a sudden they let their guard down then like oh damn like yeah you you're about that life and i never experienced that

2:39:44but you know like but i mean i mean i could conclude this thought with like

2:39:51candace owens does such a bad job and she divides so many people and this is why like even me with i said like i i think that we should question the charlie kirk thing i really do i think we should always question you should question everything but when candace is going there and like like saying like connecting these dots and making these things of like the pager the this the that the that all you're doing is splintering the fact of the matter is the fact of the matter is is you're just you're the fact is that a fucking tranny lost his mind shot charlie there's no israel conspiracy there's no israel lobby you don't need that conspiracy to say that is bad they don't even need that involvement is bad is bad is bad for america they learn i understand what you're saying i mean you're basically you're saying that you know that what's happening is extremely divisive and it can almost be discrediting but i think i think like i said i I think Candace is on to some things.

2:40:54I don't agree with everything she says. I don't think I even need to say that. But I do think that at heart, Candace is trying to do the right thing. Oh, you think she believes it? You don't think she's doing an Alex Jones skit? I think that she was very close with Charlie, and that really hurt her. And that she wants to figure out what the hell this is all about and why certain things don't make sense. I also find it so awkward. like ben shapiro and fucking all like all these right-wing influencers are like raising their hand like i know what charlie wanted i was his best friend like to me like i can't wrap my head around people using this guy's death is like a oh and i know she's close with i know her and like charlie were close but like when you're always like these are the text messages we used to sex it like i'm just saying like like it's like what are you doing dude like just let the fucking guy die like move the fuck on and again i think you should question it and i'm happy people are questioning it but when the average american hears a shit like candace owens says they're not like it pushes them away from it you're like well wait a minute but like me when i tell you hey when i when i explained you why a pack why marilyn adelson is bad why george soros is bad for america i could I could articulate it and I could explain to you in a way that you can grasp it and say, Hey, yeah, you know what?

2:42:21Maybe we shouldn't vote for AIPAC candidates. Maybe George Soros isn't the best. Maybe, uh, maybe Marilyn Adelson giving Trump a like, or maybe AIPAC giving Trump, you know,$300 million. It's not good. And maybe that is why Trump was forced or manipulated to Iran. Cause when you take the military industrial compacts, you take Israel, you take all the donations, you take the people in his inner circle, I could see how they can manipulate him into doing this, which is good for big business and oil. I could see how that happens. And if you could dissect that and make it rational and you can unpack it, now you could start identifying, okay, well, Marilyn Allison's bad.

2:43:00AIPAC is bad. The military industrial complex is bad, but you don't have to go so far as to make it seem like some crazy fucking thing. Because the moment you go in that water you lose a mass portion of the same country the moment you start telling them all this shit like oh dude like 9-11 fucking the jews did 9-11 i don't care if they did or didn't the moment you tell a big portion of this country that happened they're gone they're fucking out you got to break it down and present it in a more digestible way you know what i'm saying and candace doesn't she best way to do things is to present people with information and let them make their own decisions.

2:43:38Yeah, dude, but people are fucking stupid, though, dude. And I know people are so fucking stupid. When I try to explain economics and legal immigration to people, to these liberals, and I'm telling them how much harder it's made in their life, they say, well, yeah, but Trump is bad, Orange Man's bad, people are fucking stupid, dude. But you also can't blame people for being stupid. Like me and you, dude, we have jobs, but we don't have a fucking job. This is your job. Your job is to go online and research and look shit up and talk to people. You think the guy doing an average eight-hour job, doing construction, going home to his fucking wife, you know, she's working to two kids.

2:44:15You think that motherfucker's going on Reddit forums and looking at YouTube and trying to figure out. No, he doesn't. Just trying to get through the day. Trying to get through the fucking day. Like, when you go talk to real rednecks, they don't give a fuck about anything, dude. They're just like, dude, I just got done working. I want to go hunt. Like, I don't give a fuck about this. I don't want my oil. Like the orange man said that I would have a better way of life. I fucking voted for him. So when I say people are stupid, I'm saying you cannot be informed. For being misled. And be a normal person.

2:44:49So when you have people like Candace go and have these fucking, and do Candace, by the way, she's fucking crushing it. She looks at you all fucking stone-eyed, dude, all fucking wide-eyed. She's like, let me tell you. And you're just like, damn, Candace. It's like, yeah, I believe it, dude. The fucking Jews killed Charlie. Like, you fucking sold me, Candace. She looks at you all straight-faced with her fucking makeup that's done perfectly. And you're like, damn, yeah, Candace. Have you met her? No, no, I'm sure I like her, though. You should meet her. I'll link you guys together. But I just don't know.

2:45:22I don't know if she's doing the Alex Jones thing, where, like, Alex Jones, I think, believes it, but he, like, created a character. Like, are you creating a character that you know sells? because imagine like in this day and age too you're one of the few people that excel by not being um a clown and i don't mean that candace is a clown but i mean you know you do have some really fucking crazy takes but like imagine if candace just prevented she's a she's appealing to those fucking radical conspiracy theorists incels and say they're only like a fraction of the percent of america but if you could have one dollar from a fraction of the percent of america you've made a fuck ton of money so you're appealing to these like these kind of like oh yeah dude i'm on the reddit like you're appealing to these and you're just like and i just find it like you're making money but it's like it's wrong it's not wrong it's just like maybe she does believe it i don't know dude maybe she does i don't fucking know dude i'll link you guys together you guys sort the shit out yeah we go shoot some guns bro let me take well let's come let's take a break, come back, talk a little bit about fighting, and then go blow some shit up.

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2:48:03Now, I've always wondered how I would do, and I think I'd do fucking horribly, but how I would do, like, say you were in, like, we had to clear this house and we had to, like, and be in a gunfight. And I think, like, like, I know I could shoot well, but I had never been shot at. And I think that's what separates, like, the boys from the fucking men, right? Because you've been shot at a lot. You know what it's like to have bullets whizzed by your fucking head. Like, you know what that's like. I don't know what that's like. So, like, you could go shoot a fucking piece of cardboard all day long, and you could clear a fucking room.

2:48:34I remember the first time I got shot at, I didn't even know what the hell was going on. We were in Iraq. And we were setting up a bunch of different sniper positions. And so I was a point man. And we went and we cleared this whole building, which wound up being big. And then me and my buddy went up to the rooftop to get a vantage point. This is like 2, 3 o 'clock in the morning. And we're on nods. And we're up there like, I used to chew, you know, dip. yeah so up there having a dip just talking about how we can't wait for it all to go down and we're just shooting the shit and we're like tactics and go it was a dumb ass thing we're just standing there on a fucking rooftop so anybody could see our silhouette but there was no moon there was no so i guess you wouldn't really see a silhouette anyways whatever we should have been doing that and i remember we're sitting there talking and i thought there was a billboard above me and it's it sounded like somebody was taking like a yardstick and smacking the billboard like it was like like that like a snap around hitting them around and i'm like what the hell i'm like what the hell is that noise who's smacking the billboard above us and we look up and there's no fucking there's no billboard of like holy shit we're getting whizzing by or is that cracking the side of the building no no that's the crack when it goes when it goes over your head that's the crack you hear you just hear the snap like a if you ever been in like a gunfight like you know i always say like what like what separates the seals is like they create conditions to win like if you look at every time a seal like any any at least a publicized seal operations they they created the condition to win like the osama lana raid like that was a they created the perfect condition if you ever been in a gunfight where like a legit legitimate like you're on one side of a like a legitimate like i'm looking at you you have a gun i have a gun and you're in a gunfight i've never been in a situation where i've been point blank distance to somebody and they had a gun and i had a gun yeah well like not point blank but you know what i'm saying like you know i'm about to get like like you see a cop shootout where you're like i can see this motherfucker he's shooting at me i'm hitting reload returning fire at him like maybe like a 30 40 yard engagement yeah i don't think we shot anybody

2:51:12especially on that deployment everybody was within 50 yards no shit yeah yeah i remember one time uh one time we were it was rural iraq and we were we were like ghillied up in the bushes and shit in this town that was like i don't know 150 yards south of us was black black it was a black site or black town which means no no u.s personnel could go in fly over do any of that and they were basically what these guys were doing was they would come out and they would blow up all the main supply routes the msr routes and so and these poor army guys just kept getting killed i mean it was like every week you know more and more of them were getting killed and they couldn't figure out how to take care of it so they brought us in and uh you know we did like an assessment and some surveillance and and we'd set up all these hide sites along this msr road main supply route and ghillied up and we had we were so well hidden we had goats like local goat herders their goats were coming up and like eating the hay that we had put into our ghillie suits and we spent i don't know 24 hours there i think everybody i think every time we went out we got the guys within 24 hours and so here's the road and so we were set up kind of on the side of the road there was three or four sites you know where snipers were and then we have like kind of like a command element they call it the c2 element back here that's kind of um they're in charge of them they're like the the command element and they had had a goat herder or not goat herders they had a line of five guys walk right behind them with aks and um um bombs they were going to shovels aks bombs and they're like oh like here they come and they're they're like walked right over the top of my buddies like like like right behind them walked right over the top of them here's the road they start digging on the road and dude i don't know how they didn't see us but and i didn't i didn't shoot on this one because i didn't have visibility but uh all of a sudden i just heard all this gunfire and i was like oh like we're suppressed yeah yeah we're and i was like we couldn't get anybody on the radio was like what the is going on what happened and um no response no response and so me and my sniper partner are like back to back and we're like all right like this is it i guess everybody's dead and um like they obviously know we're here so they're gonna wind up getting online and that whole that this village was like like i said it's only 150 yards i'm like they're gonna wind up getting online and just clearing through this whole valley are burning us out of here they'll burn the the the field out to chase us out of here and i remember thinking like well we're just gonna die like so we'll just take as many these out as we can and um and then uh my buddy uh he owns a company now called gorilla vanilla security or vanilla guerrilla security or some shit his name's ben wallach and uh he comes over the radio and he just goes holy shit we just killed the fuck out of those guys and i was like i was i mean that was like the best fucking feeling in the world and uh so what had happened is the unsuppressed shots uh i guess was them and then we had some army guys the like regular infantry army guys that we had brought out to train with us like we were like hey this is how we do business yeah we want to pass this knowledge on to you so that we can move on to the next unit so for them i'd hang out with you guys 18 year old kid man got his first kill that day but what had happened was um these guys were they had planted the bombs and then our guys we started shooting them and it's just like you just you just fucking well they thought they thought they were getting shot from this side of the road because they had just walked this whole distance and walked right over the guys so they thought they were getting shot from this side of the road so they when they when they tried to retreat they ran right back at us and we're using green tip at the time do you know green tip are they like for like a armor armor piercing rounds we're using green tip at the time and the guys did not even realize they were getting shot no you could just see like the shoulders flinging back and running and it they got so close they had to come out of the weeds like out of the bushes stand up and start engaging that way and then they they eventually they dropped and then we switched to we switched from green tip we started using 77 green okay why just you wanted more like an impact well the thing with the green tip is it was just flying right through the bottom i mean when you go to look at it it's like little pinholes you know what i mean like little pinholes and so these got yet but with a 77 grain hollow tip what do you think about the military switching to the bigger round which round aren't they switching to 6.8 yeah yeah well you want to shoot it because i got it out there my biggest thing dude like i'm not a fucking war guy but like you could watch ukraine Like, dude, right now, I mean, like, you want to go watch fucking war, like, it's live stream, which is fucking a crazy time to be alive, right?

2:57:10Like, you're literally at war being live stream. It generally looks like, for the average Joe, you're just putting rounds down range. So, it's like, why do you want to give guys less rounds that go, like, marginally farther? Like, it doesn't make sense to me. Yeah, I mean, what we started doing then. For you, it does. For, like, a SEAL guy that actually is, like, precision. Well, it's also a lot heavier, you know what I mean? And so we'll take that 6.8 out, and it's amazing. It's punching through the range. It's punching through those railroad ties that are at the back of the wall, which is insane.

2:57:44I got a story like, so I'm cutting weight in my first title fight. And, like, dude, for some reason. Say that again. My first title fight in Australia, I'm cutting weight to fight Izzy. And, dude, for some reason, the weight's just not coming off. Like, it's just not fucking coming off. and like there's something like there's something so miserable about cutting weight and i'm sure like Like you're in a sauna and you're just like everything is telling you you got to get out. Like there's a part of you. It's like, man, if I die right now, I'm cool. Like this is cool to you. It's like, fuck this.

2:58:13I'm over this. Like I'm good. I mean, there, there's a misery to it that I wish people to experience. Cause it's kind of awesome. So security, you, she always hires me security. I hit, I fucking, I hit a fan. And then after that, dude, they like, there's not security for me. It's security for other people. because they're like someone's in sensation sean he's in a fight and the fight's gonna get canceled so i always have security now but uh so i'm sitting there in this fucking sauna and i talked to my buddy luke and i guess like i don't know what he was but he was like the um equivalent to like a navy seal in australia he like he was telling me about like the school he went to he was locked in a fucking box for a few days like you know this guy yeah he's something like that so anyways luke one of the coolest guy you want to talk about somebody who has like a deep fucking passion for murder to tell you something about luke we're walking down and he's a really like buttoned up like big strong australian man didn't really smile didn't really joke and he was talking to a story about how like his buddy didn't murder somebody and it was the only time i seen him show like expression of disappointment that like he had an opportunity to murder like a bad guy he didn't do it and like luke was like fuck we'll see and i was like all right luke so anyways i'm in a sauna i'm cutting fucking weight i'm miserable and i said hey luke what's something miserable you've done like you know like talk to us luke i want to know about you man like tell me something miserable like tell me the most miserable you've been in life and i was expecting like when i said that question i was wanting him to say like oh well one time you know i was locked in the box and training and like some fucking asian bitch was like smacking my ass with a fucking you know i heard that story later was smacking me or the whip no that wasn't the story i got he was like well sean let me tell you i was in afghanistan once i'm like oh fuck dude so it's not the story i wanted to hear and he goes we were driving and our convoy got hit with an RPG and I'm wearing my translator all over me.

3:00:19I'm just covered in him. He goes, we get out cause we're in mobile and we have to hike like five kilometers or the fuck that is, you know, freedom math. And he goes, and as we're hiking, we're laying in a ditch, taking fire and I'm covered in the blood of my translator. And I remember laying there holding my gun as like, we're in this firefight that I'm, I'm okay to like, today's the day I'm going to die but i'm not at peace with it like i'm i am so miserable this is so bad that like if i die here i'm okay with this and i like me and all these fighters dude we're saying they're just cutting weight like fucking speechless as this guy's telling us it's like and he said it like i'm saying it as a joke but he's saying like i mean he's like bearing his soul in this story and we're all cutting weight like just like jaws open like yeah dude like what do i say to that like i'm a fucking pussy like i get it dude all right point proven zip up the fucking sauna dude i'm gonna shut the fuck up now i'm a fucking pussy like point proven but like when you when you hear some stories that people gone through oh my god dude yeah but even like the ukraine war like you're watching there's a video online of a guy getting a knife fight you see that it's literally like two guys go pro a knife fight and like the last thing as he dies is like kind of like you did good and like i mean it's fucking wild like the ukraine war being being televised or being live streamed i mean i can't wrap my head around that like you go on youtube right now and you can watch firefights battle tank maneuvers drone footage it's like we live in such a fucking crazy world that like i hope it vilifies war even more but who knows yeah man so anyways long story short i was saying i really like to get in a gunfight but hopefully against the seal because i think i'd be a little bitch about it you know because you watch cops every now and then do a couple getting a gunfight and like a legitimate gunfight we're like the guy's getting fire and he's returning fire and he'll fucking put his mag up and he'll hit his reload and he'll rack and then you watch some guy i mean dude the thing is like i've been look i don't know if you'll rise to the occasion or not i would i would think you would considering what you do you watch some guys like they're like stumbling but you mean when you're fighting i mean when you're in a fight you're getting your ass beat is there is there is there do you hit a point where you're like you don't even think about it where you're like well i'm fucking in this now and so there's no getting out of this so like when you know there's only one choice you either keep going or you don't and you have to make a mental decision you have to i'm going to keep going or i'm not and but how do you like the urge to flinch dude when you get around fucking like how's how do you fight that urge like it slows down yeah no i mean it's one of those things i just don't know if you know i don't know if you're that kind of if you ever seen a seal have you ever seen a seal in a gunfight and be a little like like i don't want to say like i don't want to say pussy dude because you're not you're a seal in a gunfight but if you ever you've ever been with a seal and you got in a gunfight and you're like you're right dude no shit it happens at all levels man and they just like what is it just more of like they get flinchy they get like more of like i don't want to fucking like i don't want to pop my head around the corner you mean like straight froze no no i've seen people freeze i've seen people hide in bathtubs i've seen i've seen it all you know but i mean a lot of times first time you know it's i think that's the benefit of experience right you've been a lot of fucking gunfights so like you're probably really comfortable if somebody's shooting at you as comfortable as you can be it's i mean i used to say i'd rather be face down in a ditch with bullets flying over me than public speaking so that was home to me now it's not now i wonder how i would uh now now i wonder like how how would i react after all these years when i was younger dude i almost killed somebody i mean i was like seconds away from murdering this guy there's a party and um my buddy invited me over and um fucking so he like i'm at this party it's kind of a weird party i never really want to be there it's kind of strange with people they're weird so my buddy starts wrestling me and like i kind of hit him with a hip toss and he puts his fucking and i wasn't i was younger bro i mean i literally wanted to die like i had a death wish so i he puts a hole in the wall girl comes downstairs and says uh says hey you got to pay for it and i at this moment i'm like apologetic hey sorry dude my bad like i was like 18 years old like i didn't do it he did it i'll leave but i'm not paying for it comes downstairs again as i'm walking towards the door say you know what my boyfriend says you have to but she had it she said in a way of like fear and threatening like she was fearful but she also was like threatening me and i was like well no you want to tell your boyfriend if he wants to come fucking pay for you can come down suck my dick and earn it i said no dude this fucking guy this guy fucking come downstairs with a 12-gauge shotgun boom racks it fucking idiot put too close to my head so i put my hands up right and the door's like over there i'm like dude like man like and i knew in my head like i knew what i was gonna do like i was either gonna die here right now or i was gonna fuck this guy up so i put my hands up i'm like dude i'm so sorry man like i'm like looking down like i'm so sorry dude just like so let me go home let me go home and like i fucking he's like call me a fucking pussy boom i grabbed the gun i just started fucking drilling him in the face i remember there was a piece of drywall and i started grabbing his head just slamming his head through the drywall i didn't hit a stud and fucking put a hole falls down i he's now like he's on his knees now after his head and i fucking push kick him take the shotgun out and I'm like fucking as I present it to fucking put around in him his fucking girlfriend thank fucking god because I'm not beating that case I'm not beating that charge girlfriend jumps on top of him and starts begging for his life and I think about this girl all the time because like if it wasn't for her jumping on top and begging for his life I'm getting institutionalized shit dude so it's kind of weird dude I mean, yeah, so going back to like gunfights, I think when you're in it and you're resigned to it and you're just real focused, like there's nothing you can't do or like overcome.

3:06:46Yeah. Oh, and to answer your question, when you're in a fight and you're getting the living shit kicked out of you and you know you're going to lose, you just tell yourself, one, I don't want to get finished. I'm not going to be a bitch. And two, maybe I get lucky. The only thing you're thinking about is like, maybe I can get lucky. It only takes one. So you still have the will to fight. Yeah, like, I know I'm not going to win. I know I've lost every round. Maybe I get lucky. Just put your hands up and maybe you get lucky. Have you gotten lucky? No, when I've got the shit kicked out of me. No, I just continue to get the shit kicked out of me.

3:07:27Yeah, no, no, never do. Yeah, no. What is your mindset when you walk into a fight? Actually, hold on. before we move on you know Sean I'm a fan and I need you to sign something but it's probably not going to be the typical thing you sign I love that you got kicked out of Trump's 80th birthday party oh let's go man I'm going to use the show as the certificate of authenticity that's good actually by the way I joke these guys they did detain me and they did trespass me and I don't think they've been charged me but these guys, these marshals saved my fucking life. Dude, when I saw that, I was like, holy shit.

3:08:07I'll bet those dudes loved doing that. Oh, dude, they saved my fucking life. So, like, what people don't understand is when you're in a crowd, like, I mean, sure, if you've done security and you've worked crowds, like, you understand how people die. Let's go, dude. By the way, those marshals, so, like, if you guys are watching this, man, Thank you. You guys saved my fucking life. They're watching. So, dude, when you're in a crowd, the first time I was in a crowd and I've experienced this, I was at a UFC fan expo, and I just thought it was, like, gay and lame. I didn't want to do it, so I walked in the crowd, like, this is fucking gay.

3:08:47I want to go fight a fan or do something fun. And then, like, they start forming around you, and you're, like, everything just, like, there's a wall of people around you. And I remember telling this guy, hey, dude, like, back the fuck up. and like he had so much fear on his face because he couldn't back up because he's in this crowd of a wall of people he's like i can't and at that moment you're like oh man i understand how people die in a crowd so what happened is i was like once i snuck in i was like i'm gonna try to be like real like undercover and then once i was made by the fans like if i didn't jump in that ring people would have died you're talking about thousands of people would gather around you and they start pushing and pushing and pushing and you create this wall of fucking people so when i jumped in the ring it was like this is the only place i could go where i walk gonna die wow because right it's elevated their sides so i was like well at least i'm safe in this in this ring and then once the marshals came to get me out i mean we they were fighting people back like they were shoving people checking people that like if it wasn't for them somebody could have died by me being there And I mean, I feel like an asshole in the process, but I didn't even think about that.

3:10:00I was like, I'm just gonna hide in and walk. But like crowds, man, they're... So those marshals, we're talking about these big corn-fetted fucking people, dude. They were just checking fans, dragging people out. I'm shoving fans off me. Damn. If it wasn't for them, dude, somebody would have died. They 100 % saved someone's life that day. Shit. Yeah. Have you ever been in the middle of a crowd? Oh, yeah. Bunch of times. Yeah, it's like... It's like, that's the scariest shit. You take one... You can't identify. There's so many people. But for me, it's more the, like, you take one person that weighs 150 pounds, 200 pounds.

3:10:33Now you add 1 ,000 of them pushing on each other. You create this wall. That's why people, like, get trampled and suffocating crowds. Like, you just fucking die. But yeah, those marshals, man, they fucking saved my life, dude. So anyways, that's awesome. Marshals, thank you, guys. What happened there? I got to know the story, you know, so I frame this and put it in the studio. yeah so trump uh the ufc was like hey you know you want to go you want to go i want to go to the fight so i bought tickets so my girl's family's up there i had to go tell them something so i already planned the trips like you know i'll just make a fucking detour so i made a detour and then hunter called me it was like hey you know you didn't get cleared man sorry like the white house wouldn't clear you and mind you i of course they didn't fucking clear me i was shocked i was shocked when Hunter said I could go in the first place.

3:11:23Well, yeah, of course I'm looking at my fucking tweets. Like, yeah, you're not going to fucking clear me. They're not going to let me go. So I wasn't surprised, right? But then I told the UFC, well, like, dude, at least let me go to the Fan Fest. Like, let me go to, like, to the gates and, like, go hang out with fans. Like, I'm already there. Like, let me go say what's up. And the UFC fucking boom. And I was like, hey, you know, like, why don't you guys just give me, like, some security so I can go say what's up, UFC? Nothing. Nothing. and then even my manager reached out to him he's like you know sean's gonna sneak in and go right i'm like can you give him security like ah sorry we can't damn so it's like they uh and i still was like fuck i'm still gonna go anyways you know but yeah i know the ufc the trump administration i think i was just salty for the ufc because like trump blacklisted me from the white house but the ufc blacklisted me from the whole event they didn't give me security yeah they didn't They give me a cert.

3:12:18They didn't give me passes. There was like a big fan event where all the fighters went. They don't let me go. But they would have fucking known. I mean, I don't blame the UFC because I would have been up there with a microphone like, hey, guys, these fucking pedophiles. What are you fucking doing here? Fucking Trump, dude. How many times is your name in the list? So I can't blame them. Are you the one that said, why would I go fight for a bunch of pedophiles? Yeah, I think I said like something like that. I mean, so everyone's like, well, why did you want to go? I'm like, dude, I could separate.

3:12:47politics and fighting like it's cool it's at the fucking white house man it's a once in a lifetime event of course i'd fucking go but i i don't blame the ufc and i don't blame the white house because fucking trump's a priest shit and i would have definitely have said that on live tv and they would have been a big shit show so i don't blame anybody right on man i i own it i fucking own it i love it so what are you getting ready for when are you gonna fight again uh right now so i have this ac joint separation it's not bad dude i just need probably a couple more months just to let it heal up like i mean you'll see me rubbing it right now just fucking throbbing but dude i don't know man it's all about money you know people talk about like who's a fight who do you want if i don't give a fuck just pay me well i'll fucking fight anybody dude i'll go fight i'll go i'll go to heavyweight if you pay me well so So fighting to me is really just a job, and I like the fans.

3:13:44Well, Pauly Market's got you. Is the favorite to still be middleweight champ at the end of 2026. You're leading the odds. How do you see the rest of 2026 playing out? How do I bet, dude? I should just fucking ride the bench to play 2026. And what are you hoping for? No, I mean, my shoulder heels up. I fight. I like fighting, dude. I like even, you know, going back to, like, who I am as a person. I am better when I'm in camp. like so me being injured out of camp i'm fucking dude like i'm like i'm not doing well like i'm not doing fucking well like i was in florida i'm not doing well like i'm not doing well i like i'm trying to create enemies i don't have i'm trying to pick fights that aren't there like everybody's out to fucking get me right now and i'm fully aware that like i i'm in limbo because my injury so me being in limbo i'm just like i just i'm fucking just spiraling you know I'm just like trying to get...

3:14:39You don't do well in Idol. Fuck no, dude. I need to have something to fight. I need to have some kind of misery. I need to have something like... I need to force myself to die. I need to wake up every day and be like, I want this to be over. That's the more I'm at my best. This, where I'm like, you know, whatever I want. I fucking hate this. I like start twitching and shit. Start fucking twitching. Dude, I hope you start helping kids, man. You could have a lot of power. for future generations my girl hates it she doesn't hate it but like i'm like i'm really fucking twitchy and i hide it so well in public but like i'm so fucking do you have any twitches or like ticks or anything like that so like sometimes like i think about thoughts a lot and like they make me feel uncomfortable and i don't think i know how to process emotion so like i'll also be saying they're having a conversation like fucking like just like twitch i'm like what the fuck is wrong with you i'm like babe i can't help it i can't fucking help it i try not to i can't fucking help it come out the most crowds crowds a lot of them are people you don't know a lot of but also a lot when i'm around my girl i twitch a lot more around her no shit because i think i'm trying to like hide who i am right so like i have all these thoughts in my head they're like usually really fucked up thoughts like i've like like real fucked up thoughts so i think she doesn't know this no she knows it but like it makes me so uncomfortable that uh that like i just like i think it just manifests itself in like a physical reaction because like they saw i'm looking at my wife and they're so fucking uncomfortable so fucked up that like i think it just manifests itself in a uh in a way i used to be able like i still do every now and then if i really have a bad thought and i say bad thought it could be anything like a shameful thing i've done a shameful thing i want to do i used to just visualize i say you so i fucking do it all the time still but every time i have a thought you guys try to help you every time i have a thought i can't get out of my head i visualize myself shooting myself in the head and like i always visualize the same thing i just like i'll be talking i'll be talking to my wife i thought i'm just sorry i just think about like the slow motion like bullet just like entering and fracturing and expanding and i think about the actual visual image of it and it like i just focus on that thought dude and like it just blanks me out holy shit dude and then if the thought is and then if the thought's too big and i can't get it out i'll even just like touch my head a little bit just like and i visually once i put my finger on my head and i could like put my finger on the temple i could actually like see the trajectory of the bullet coming out and like it just blanks my mind right out whoa but no it just helps it just helps dude that is dark well i mean it just helps because like you just like it's such an extreme like it's such an extreme visual and mental image it just all whatever i'm thinking about now and the moment i start focusing on that it just takes everything away do you think how'd you meet your wife no funny enough dude we actually met i mean this was like tender yeah tender seven years ago oh shit are you serious but so i wasn't as famous back then right i was like did you really meet her on tender yeah i was just trying but i was just trying to get laid dude no i was just trying to get fucking laid like i was trying to get laid what was your profile pic i don't know dude i don't think i really i think it was just me like i think it was me riding a horse or something dude i was like i tried to make myself look non-threatening dude i wanted to be fun but non-threatening right that's what you want no this is me not being a psychopath yeah no you don't find out about after you're already trapped so anyways i like horses yeah i like horses yeah i'm a good guy so anyways i i meet her and um and i always laugh because if you go back to our first meeting and say hey like you guys are gonna be married one day we would both look at each other and be like are you fucking retarded like what the fuck so my girl by the way i had this old shitty nissan fucked up truck and she sees me i'm sitting on my truck and like she's dude she's really together two degrees her dad is like in the go fuck yourself wealthy category like i had to sign a prenup like Like, I had to sign a prenup just because you know how rich people work.

3:18:54Like, rich people put assets in different names. So it's like the dad was like, you're not letting this motherfucker anywhere near my money. He's looking at his daughter. Are you serious with this shit? Dude, and like, we had this conversation once. Oh, man, I'll tell you a funny story. So I had monkey pox the first time I met him. Chris Curtis, no racism. I don't think I've ever met anybody that's had monkeypox. Yeah, no, dude, yeah. So I'm in the gym, dude. I'm in the gym. And my buddy, Chris Curtis, black guy, not monkeypox. He just happened to be black, you know? So I'm in the gym. And he has, like, some spots on him.

3:19:37I'm like, bro, that don't look right. And mind you, this guy's, like, one of my closest friends. I mean, him getting into fights all the time, like fistfights. We've probably been in five fistfights. Like, he's a dirty fucking liberal, you know? But we get in a fight all the time. like you got some like weird spots on you like are you okay he's like oh yeah no i'm good dude just a pimple i'm like all right dude like that's cool hopefully fucking parents don't watch this they probably don't but so i was like that's cool dude and he's out of the gym for like two fucking weeks so my girl my girl's like old school like you don't meet her family like guys don't meet the family like my fucking my house wasn't like that i'm like be fucking 16 years old having sex up in the fucking room like she'll be walking out half naked past the family like that wasn't how my family was like like we had no like we had no boundaries in my family dude so so like me and her parents was a big fucking thing for her for me i'm like oh man it's weird to actually date a girl that has a dad but uh i'm not really used to that you know usually it's like usually my past experience was like you had to tell me how your dad molested you and then i have to feel real bad about that but anyway but i love it bro my girl saved me from it what you guys do what was the first date we just went total opposites no we just went to starbucks and hung out we talked to you about uh it was funny because like me i'm on my worst behavior i'm talking like one like the barista guys like you some kind of faggy you work at starbucks it's like no man i'm a libertarian i like guns like my girl just saying like what the upstate new york girl so i meet her family dude dude i meet her fucking family and i like all of a sudden i have like i'm an emotional guy i'm an emotional guy just who i am like i don't know why i just like like uh i mean i was like dude i talked to this vet the other day i almost started fucking bawling like you know he uh uh where i was at he's like hey you should go see my brothers at arlington bro and he said that and like the way he said it even thinking about it like it almost fucked me up like just hearing him say that like you should go meet my brothers like at harlan like it's fucking it fucked me up dude like even thinking about makes me want to cry emotional guy so anyways i started talking to her and i have no shame in it you know i mean i could be a pussy some days so i start talking to her fucking dad and he starts like inquiring about my life about my dad and mind you i have this fucking i have this like massively high fever because the monkey pox you get a fever and then you get the rash so like i'll go over dinner so i'm already not in the right mindset i'm fucking jacked up on caffeine um and like i probably have like 103 fever i'm just trying to keep it together and i start talking about my childhood my brother raised me like my brother is like for all rights or wrong or different like he fucking he raised me like he he raised me and i started telling the story i'm gonna try to keep my shit together when i tell the story i'm gonna try to keep it together guys don't fucking i'm gonna keep my shit together i can't look when i say it so there was one day my brother strapped like knives i mean we're talking about like elementary school strapped knives to his like his pants and his plan was to go sit next to my dad and stab him fuck him damn dude so I'm like telling the story and I gotta stay animated because if I actually feel it you know it's gonna break me down so if I stay animated I just like I'm good think about the bullet think about the bullet so I'm telling the story and like I just start crying it might drive a high fever you know but like I was like just trying to explain to him what it was like I just started first time my parents fucking crying trying to keep my shit together because I was telling that story and he asked me like I didn't it was no unsolicited advice I was just trying to explain and I also had a really high fucking fever like i was mildly delirious yeah first time i met her parents i had like a fucking breakdown not a breakdown it was just more of just like yeah no it's what brother raised me and i just need a sec one sec and then yeah so then i go home what does he say to that he dude his life they're like when you my girl's family i mean the dad was uh the grandfather on the mom's side beloved in the town they have like soccer they have like golf tournaments he was a coach at like some good college war to vet uh pow battle the bull in his phrase in his honor her dad her dad's uh business owner he inherited the business like i'm saying they have like they have they have a long lineage lineage of like success and stability my lineage is like fucking mental illness and permanent disability so it's like you know he has to kind of wrap his head around that yeah i told him married into similar families yeah right father-in-law kind of same deal and uh yeah yeah yeah i mean you're extremely worried but dude you're an american fucking hero my man like i don't think that's how they saw it well don't show them the columbia part so anyways i go break i have a breakdown dude i go home and like i wake up i tell i texted my girl i'm like dude i had to leave sorry i have a massive fever i'm fucked up i wake up dude i have legions all over my body from monkey pox and i call kurt i was like you motherfucker dude you motherfucker damn do you get along with them oh yeah no they're fucking great dude they're like um they're great they're like like could not ask for like better fucking in-laws.

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3:27:30I think if they could snap their fingers, they'd probably say no. But I mean, whatever, dude. It's funny. I say this story a lot, but after we got married, you know, we go meet him for breakfast. And which, yeah, I don't blame him. We go meet him for breakfast, and he looks at me. We're saying our goodbyes, you know, and shakes my hand. He goes, Sean.

3:27:54I didn't think you were going to be my son-in-law, but here we are. He just walks the fuck away. Holy shit. I just, but I know who I am, bro. Like, I mean, like I said, I grew up like, I mean, I fucking know who I am, dude. I'm fucking a high school dropout. I, the only reason why I'm not fucking institutionalized is because I hit people in the fucking head. Like, I'm a fucking loser. Like, and now everyone's like, oh, no, no, no, I am. like who i i mean my where i came from like i mean girls are getting fucking like i remember being in fucking like junior high and chicks were getting fucking double teamed in my fucking living room like that's who i came from right like like we didn't have fucking like i mean we didn't have clean towels dude we had like the communal fucking towel that after like fucking three weeks it turned into this like moldy fucking mess now you're debating do i take the sheet off my bed or if i use the moldy town i'm gonna go take the sheet off the bed but you know the thing about my parents too they were never like we were very middle class like we were very i probably lower they were like meat cutters they worked at albertson's together but when you're white trash you just fucking you just spend fucking money so by after you got all you know the beer the alcohol whatever the fuck else they're buying you're just poor but it's why i like kids too need to start investing man so like dude i mean i know you think that of yourself but fuck sean i'm telling you dude like i'm so gonna have such an impact on today's youth i cannot tell you i am so fucking lucky i'm i'm so lucky dude like if i go back and i look at all my life from like the the the fucking revolver to almost shooting the guy and even so much other than that like like you want to talk about god like i am so lucky because if any if any one of these thousand events happen any other way i would not be here today or i'd be in a prison case somewhere well i'm glad you just said that yeah my girl's dad actually funny one christmas he best gift he ever gave me he gave me like a 500 check and he handed me a laptop i'm like oh that's cool man i don't fucking need your money like i don't want your money he's like no no no and he opened up a charles swab account and he's like you're gonna start investing like when my girl met me at a million dollars under a bag in my bed like yeah what am I gonna do with it babe it's a fucking and she was like are you fucking stupid I'm like I don't know so now I like I started investing and like it's one of those things I think one of the things about like when you meet really wealthy people they don't tell you it's so easy to make money in America and they they just they don't teach you that as a kid so like and i don't mean like i'm not one of those like people that are like oh you're fucking stupid like like i was trying to explain to my girl i was like babe you're talking about investing the money like do you think i ever gave a fuck about that like do you think i really do you think i really had the thought process of saying hey if i could put a hundred dollars now in 10 years it'll be five thousand ten thousand like i didn't i didn't have that thought process so dude my girl really changed my life if it wasn't for her i'd be in such i'd be in such a bad place i'd probably be with some like fucking porn star only fans girl just like being just going deeper into it because i mean even dude even like i mean i was a piece of shit and like my once i like i got like my initial fame it wasn't because i was a good guy it was because like i let people know like dude i'm a piece of shit and i love it like i don't do drugs i do i do all my mistakes over this is who i him and my girl really like really stopped and said like you can't be a piece of shit if you want to be with me which was fucking real hard is that the first time you've ever had exposure to a family like that oh god yeah it is so fucking weird and first time she's ever exposed to a family like me it's so weird man when you think about like honestly like after seeing her family i don't know if i'm kind of grateful for my family because you know dude they're really rich whites bro it's different there's like these there's like these hierarchies and like they love each other but there's like separations from church and state like there's separation between like i'm the dad you're the daughter like it's a very like it's not cold you know they they love each other and they do everything for each other but it's like a very cold environment right like right wrong or indifferent dude i might have known who my mom was banging when i was in elementary school but i knew you know so like it was a christmas dude it was christmas with the whites and like the first christmas i've ever been to with the whites dude and it was like i remember sitting there like what the fuck am i doing here so like they love food white people love food dude like when you when you saw the whites like uh i always story they go and they buy these like really nice cheeses and shit the whites love cheeses you know so they go and they buy like you know like a whole basket like this is like gouda this is like aged cheese there's fucking mold on this cheese and they like because it's like a christmas thing so like you guys ever want to make a white person happy get us some cheese apparently

3:33:15so anyways they the dad goes well hey daughter um do you know where you're like your cheese knives are at and she's all dad sorry like uh we just have regular knives oh i don't have a set and do the dad and she'll look back like that's not how it happened and the dad looked at her like how the fuck do you not have a cheese knife i didn't have a cheese knife i didn't know there was a fucking cheese knife dude where's your security board so i'm just sitting there witnessing all this like the most upsetting thing about your guys's day is you don't have a fucking cheese knife like okay i mean what the fuck so i'm just sitting there like watching this interaction and i'm just like taking it all in and absorbing it and looking how the whites live i always say there's whites and there's whites bro and like to her family's eyes bro i ain't a fucking white man like i am like i'm not white so later on as a as a dinner progresses i'm gonna get so fucking i'm gonna get yelled after telling these stories but whatever it's good bro it's a compliment to your family i always tell her like babe it's a compliment i didn't grow up that way like no i was doing the christmas i was probably trying to fucking have sex with a whore upstairs like that was not like it's good so they're all like they cook all day long and they go and they buy like this nice organic grass grass red fucking prime rib and then the backyard all day long like poking and prodding this fucking piece of meat like oh man look how tender that is it's been on it's been on for this long and i'm just saying they're like this is the most boring white ass shit i've ever did like we need to fight some fucking people over dude like give me a fucking beer bottle that had any day over this like i would i would rather go fucking fight my brother because he said some shit then be here but it's nice so then we have dinner and i look around and everyone's real nice they're talking about like investments and stock accounts and you know the coffee fucking the coffee's in so i'm like hey guys how do you guys feel about god like yeah so like it's i saw the brother i'm like so do you uh do you do you partake do you believe i mean it is christmas do you believe in baby jesus and the mom and the mom goes yeah i know do you believe in christ and i'm just laughing because i'm like they're so structured and so uninvolved in each other's lives that they don't even know like the belief system of their kids because there's so many layers of structure in their lives you are the father you are the mother you are a kid which i think is good to have these like layers of and like my girl loves her dad she's she's a dad's girl like she she should have been a tumble you know so they start talking about it and i'm just like absorbing all this like huh because the way i grew up dude like our christmas dinner dude like i mean i'm not as an adult as a kid my brother'd be like oh i'm gonna go fucking bang my my girlfriend of this whore i mean this is that christmas dinner conversation you know so you watch this and you're just like huh this is how you guys live it's really fucking boring that's how i feel here in this town by the way i just walk around like where are the black people at give me some blacks give my people no but uh yeah so you're with the white you know it's like this is a good town man what people care about here is god don't fuck with our kids oh it's great everybody's nice to yeah if we had more god-faring rednecks i always say rednecks don't i think we'll save the country like we just need more fucking rednecks my guys i read actually be a black redneck you'd be a yellow redneck i think of a fuck but like the the mentality of a redneck just hard-working god-fearing people it's like a dying breed man makes it real sad do you think you have kids yeah i want to have kids I want to have kids.

3:37:14Me and my girl talking about it. She went and got tested. She's all good. We might do IVF. She doesn't need IVF, but I think you could pick a boy. And I know God's going to curse me with a girl, you know? What, do you have a boy or a girl? Have a boy and a girl. Yeah. Boy first. Boy first. The Schultz method, I think, is what they call it. It works. What's the Schultz method? I'm going to butcher this. my wife i just do what she says but we really wanted a boy first and there's once you start tracking the what the ovulation cycle there's there's specific so let me think so the boy sperm the male sperm is really fast but it dies really quick got you so what what whatever point during the ovulation cycle station it's the you don't have sex until until like the egg has dropped yeah so you have to look this up so i don't so you gotta find the timing it's the time yeah so it's the timing so as soon as the egg drops you know and they can like track all this stuff that's when you have sex and then the male sperm swim to the top and they they fertilize the egg and the females are slower right sure shit we had a boy no shit and And then you do the opposite.

3:38:37Next one, we wanted a girl. So with the girl. Yeah, but you're religious, bro. God can have done you a bone. So with the girl, with the female, you want to have sex before the egg drops. And so you have sex, and all the males swim up there as fast as they can, and they die. And the female ones, they swim slower, but they live longer. So the female ones are all hanging around in there, waiting for the egg to drop. and then when it drops they fertilize the egg let me tell you now this is happening it worked two times in a row i know i'm calling my girl right now dude schultz method yeah i know i just know god will curse now she has to listen to the podcast yeah no no i know god will curse me with a girl god's gonna look at me if there is a god he's gonna look down on me he's like you think after all the damage you've done you get a boy fuck no it's time for you to repent sir have a fucking girl god god girl something else man but also too like i would probably better with a girl because like i think that i'm probably a little bit too like hard on men you know yeah i'm kind but then i'm pretty too soft i don't know man but like so we're talking about doing ivf my girl doesn't want to because she'd get pregnant but i'm like i really like go spend 50 grand and be able to pick a boy like it's kind of worth it girls are cool i bought trucks for more you're gonna love them both yeah no i mean i should just do it the old school way but uh yeah I know, man, I want, I think one of the hard things for me with having a family is I'm kind of mentally stuck as who I was as a kid.

3:40:11And I know this might say like, this might seem weird to a lot of people and a lot of people can relate to this, but like, I am a 35 year old grown ass man. I know who I am, but mentally there's a part of me that is still stuck in that, that person. so to actually think about like being a dad waking up to a kid in the next room like to like to raise a kid to be like you know better than i am which really won't be that hard right if i'm if i made it dude anybody could fucking make it but like a part of me is kind of stuck in that mentality of who i was when i was like 16 years old it's hard for me to picture that but i feel like you just got to do to make the mistake and just fucking figure it out it changes it is but it's hard man it's hard to get out of that like you know and i think a lot of people too that have not a lot of people but a lot of people like they have they have like inspiration you know like yeah you're gonna grow up and be a fucking dad like you're gonna do this and that like that's not me man it was like if you fucking had a you knocked a girl punch me in the stomach like you're a fucking idiot you know like you're like like that was never an option like being a dad was never an option for me i never wanted it and now i'm with my girl and like Like, you know, I'm established.

3:41:27So, yeah, I'm at the next chapter of life. Maybe make me, you know, change a little bit or not. Without taking them to church, right? Raise them as a Christian. You should. Yeah, and I probably would. Yeah, I probably would. Is your wife a Christian? I think their family would all be agnostic. Like, I think if you really had to ask them, gun to the head, do you believe that Jesus was the son of God? Even though they say they're Christian, I don't know if like gun to the head, that would be like the answer in their heart. So I think they would move forward, more fallen agnostic. But my girl went to church every Sunday.

3:42:09They still go to church for Christmas. I think it's just like when you're white, if you're white, you're Christian. That's what you do. You're a white man. But upstate New York is kind of like a farm town, you know, very different. But yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I would probably, that's hard. How do you raise your kid? You raise him to be your replacement. Yeah, okay, I'd like him to be Christian. All right, I guess I'll raise Christian. But yeah, man, yeah, life's interesting, dude. It is. Well, I got a hot question for you. You ready? I'll answer it away. Sean, there's a video out there a lot of my audience has seen.

3:42:50Your ring camera catches a guy at your house in Vegas. You grabbed a pistol, went out into the street, and the whole thing ends up online. Take me back to that moment from the second you saw him on that camera to the decision to go outside and what was actually going through your head. So, a backstory, not backstory, but another story to describe who I am. And you're the same way. You're the same fucking way. I'm driving. I'm on the phone with Nina. And he's my good friend. We're CUC. see and this homeless guy walks in front of me and i'm driving way too fucking fast slam on the brakes fucking throws his bike in front of throws his bike in front of me i roll down the window i can't i can't go forward because there's a bike in front of me i pull out my gun i put in my my hand because i don't know if this fucking homeless guy's a gun a knife and try to stab me i really not have to fucking draw from like sitting you know so i'm like standing with the gun in my hand and he gets in the rolls down the window fuck you fuck you i'm just like hey i've got a problem dude you know and he puts his hands up and he walks away and then nina was like sean you realize that you're in a car you could have just drove away i was like i guess i could have i was like i guess yeah i guess you could just i i guess you i don't think i would never walk away from a conflict like i i just don't like to me if there's ever this who's in the car with you no i was on the phone with nina talking about it and like she's on the phone hearing me have this conversation pulling out a gun like hey you good dog and now mind you he had no weapon no knife so just like once he seen the gun he backed away but it's like um but uh like so nina was like why don't you just drive away you're in a car i'm like nina i just don't think like that like i am sure you're the same way if there's a problem you're not thinking like i'm gonna go this way like i'm a grown-ass fucking man i'm not gonna go this way this is where i'm going so back to the just to understand my mindset right saying that i get a ring alert and there's some guy like hiding like not hiding but i thought he was trying to steal my truck which is a really shitty truck i don't know why you don't want it i like it but so i thought he was trying to steal my truck so i told my girl like wait inside i grabbed my i think it was a sig i think it was a the smaller 365 five so i go out there and i'm like hey what the fuck are you doing he gets up and he like you know you see the video and he was just a weak pathetic man like he was so fucking weak so pathetic like at that moment you're like there's no threatening thing about you like you're not a threat there's nothing wrong with you so he starts walking like no no like wait dude and the security car A security comes up and says, stop that guy.

3:45:37So now it's like, I'm assuming that this guy did something fucked up or very bad. And like, he's trying to be arrested. So now I'm like, well, okay. So I walk out and he keeps walking. I just shove him down. I point a gun at him and I'm like, you know, wait. Turns out he beat up his sister. They're at a liquor store. He beat the fuck out of his sister. And then the sister jumped out of the car. He drove his car hit a hit something had a flat tire parked right outside my house and was hiding between my truck I thought he was trying to steal my truck, but that was a real story so I go on there and the security guards start telling me like no he beat the hell out of this girl He just crashed his car and I'm on the phone with cops right now So I'm like hey, you're not leaving dude.

3:46:26Just wait for the cops to come And then the cops are like, you know, we're really busy and I just let him go and we have his name and information and he has a warrant. He has to turn himself in tomorrow. And I'm like, all right, you're free to go, dude. Enjoy your night. Holy shit. Yeah. He just beat the shit out of his sister and they're like, yeah, let him go. It's Vegas, man. It's fucking Vegas, this shithole. So he comes back later that night with his wife. Now his wife's with him. And I just see, because I look out the window, and he's clearing beer bottles out of his car. So if cops come, so he goes and cleans all the alcohol, drives away comes back the next day with his fucking daughter and that's why i blurred his face because i was like you know i don't want to like i blurred your face once you came back with your kid so he's like and he's like a white trashed fucking delinquent he's trying to he can't change his fucking tire on the car that he wrecked to drive out of there so he's with his daughter and i'm like this is so fucked up so i walk outside i'm like hey dude i'm the guy that put a gun to head the other day i'm like you need some help and so i changed the guy's tire with i met his dog i met his kid changed his tire for him shook his hand say man i wish you the best and then i drove away well i know what happened but it's like yeah that was a weird day again i don't i don't hate anybody dude i mean you're a piece of but again what is the common denominator you're drunk you're fucking drinking like i can't like there's this guy um it's a big thing big controversy dustin point right that's lame but he's ufc champion oh yeah you guys you guys have some history don't you yeah i made fun of him but i make fun of everybody like he went out and said like i was depressed and like i was like get the fuck out of here bro you're depressed you're a rich what you're a rich fucking white man and then a friend of a friend was like hey you're kind of that was kind of fucked up and so i was like oh dude maybe maybe maybe i overstepped so i go and i called us in i'm like hey man or i text him like hey man hey sorry dude like i was like i don't think you're the kind of guy that gives a fuck but i was just making a joke i was just being me and it turned out like he was really fucked up over it like he was really fucked up over it he's like yeah i'm like i was in a bad place i drank on a plane i embarrassed my fucking family like forever i'm you know what do you say he said uh it was good he really i mean he gets a pass he said it gonna be a bad he said to a black cop but he gets a pass nobody cares and i was like man i just like i thought it was great dude i'm like i'm that's my new i say that all the time like i i didn't mean that but he was really thrown up by it and then oh fuck i shouldn't i don't think it matters but i think bud light's gonna release him and he kind of hinted to like he's a sponsored athlete by bud light and it made me so fucking mad it made me so fucking mad like we're buying me bud light i'm gonna get a call from the fucking uc hey why are you talking shit on bud light so bud light already fucking betrayed america with their fucking tran tranny on a beer can yeah so but then you know i was like whatever drink that shit ever ever so but as i didn't like the little yeah so they go and they sponsor the ufc i'm like you know man at least they're trying Like, they're fucking trying to redempt.

3:49:48They're trying to go in the man category. They're not pushing this gay shit anymore. Yeah, because of the financials. Yeah, but going forward, this is where I kind of lost my shit with Bud Light again. It's crazy how they bought everybody out overnight. Yeah. I remember people shooting them with machine guns, and the next day, they're drinking Bud Light on Rogan. Yeah. Yeah, so. Yeah, you got a soul. Yeah, no, I mean, money's money. so i i talked to dustin and he kind of hinted that like they're going to terminate his contract because he got fucked up on a plane and i was like how like how much of a piece of shit are you bud light like you take a guy you want to say he's an alcoholic he's in a bad place he uses your product he is a bud light he is the american and the moment something bad happens where like you kind of get a little egg on your face like you get a little shame because you got drunk on a plane and try to fight a black cop which is fucking funny he's not racist you you like you want to terminate his contract like what Bud Light should have done that should be the PR they should have reached out to Dustin say hey Dustin man you're not doing well you might have a problem with drinking we're a beer company we sponsor you but like can we help you can we can we help you like like we want to help you as a beer company as American as an American company I know you guys do the commercials of the American flags and like the pool parties.

3:51:14Let us kind of help you. Do you need anything? That's not what they did. They're going to say, oh, you fucked up. You used our product and you fucked up. Get the fuck lost. We don't want that bad image. And, you know, I always say like, I don't drink. I never have drink, nor will I drink. I just, I don't have the personality for it. i think bud light spent six billion dollars in the last 40 years of marketing and like their their level of marketing it's like and i don't want to say bud light you could say every beer company i'm just using this because they're the one that's going to drop dust and it like irks my soul but they did it man they sold you the american way that like you you're you know cowboy on a horse a game and this and that but like i don't fucking have that feeling every time i seen a beer can or a beer bottle as a kid there was no like this isn't this is not going to be a good day for me yeah like when my dad walked inside the house with a fucking pack of beer like i didn't look at that beer can but this is america i want to go watch a football game and be happy i'm like oh damn i'm fucked i guess it's gonna be a fucking he went with a fucking 24 pack instead of 12 pack like it's gonna be a fuck night for me so i don't have the i don't have like that kind relationship with alcohol for me i think alcohol is fucking poison it's like it is like the worst thing it is it is poison yeah it's like again i'm a libertarian i think it should be illegal but it's like even even with dustin you know i'm happy to acknowledge that it is fucked up but i mean it's just it's so easy when you're having a bad day and i think about all the time like i don't do drugs but like i want to do drugs so fucking bad like i'll have a bad day and i just like i'm around my friends that drink and i'm like man if i just go get high right now like all my like my urges desires could just vanish and i'm just going to be a happy fucking idiot for a night like that sounds so fucking nice i get it i just know that like where that fucking leads and alcohol always leads for the most part if you have if you're one of the many americans that have the demons it leads a very fucked up road just stay away from it yeah it's good advice man so i fucking i don't even know how we got talking about dustin and bud light but uh we were talking about you going after somebody saw on the ring camera oh yeah about alcohol and then i was gonna ask you what your everyday carry is oh yeah no i got the uh i got the sig man not another 320 dude i actually uh i got the sig uh 365 axg all metal best best carry gun the thing is like i will say when i when i carry so you carry a sigms what do you carry yeah i i carry i like the 365 it depends where i go around here where i live i carry the the 365 the og one 12 plus one yeah subcompact one if um yeah ain't nothing if i'm driving you know if i'm somewhere else a little more yeah something different than I like carrying the 365 macro or the legion which same thing you carry a spare mag with you oh fuck yeah oh do you really oh he's one of those guys yeah I don't carry a spare mag I should but I'm usually like when I carry dude I'm like in gym shorts I'm just like and I have like the clip-on holster I don't do the gun belt I mean if I'm cruising around you know doing if if I'm out traveling going through town now you just are you are you a a sig shield or do you actually believe the product dude i've just called you i care i carried it a long time okay i've got videos of me carrying it way before i became um way before i started my partnership no i think it's the best they don't they don't sig doesn't sponsor me i think it's the best gun yeah glocks i find very uncomfortable to like to carry i just and then like you know sig has more capacity for the same package the only good thing about a glock is that when I do like a Glock 19, I present very well.

3:55:14Like for something about that big blocky thing, I just, when I grab it, I present so well because like the way it's shaped, but I hate fucking carrying it because you're carrying this big blocky thing that's just, I'm fucking fat, dude. I'm just killing myself. The SIG to me is by far the best carry gun. I'll be, I'm glad you asked me if I'm a SIG shill because everybody calls me a SIG shill, but I'll even tell you about my partnership. we started i own a 320 yeah we we we no i was so i before i started this i was in the firearms industry you know i was a tactical trainer and um trained keanu reeves for john wick oh no shit yeah i had that genesis shotgun really great shotgun and uh i have one in there i've even shot it oh dude it runs great you can run birdshot through it runs great maybe we should bust that out when we go to the ranch today but uh anyways i couldn't get a gun spot i could not get a firearm sponsorship no matter what and i was reviewing the sig 365 it got like i don't know a couple million views couldn't get anything then i started this and and um got a got a partnership with sig dude they're just a fucking awesome company man and you know they came on and i was like hey i don't do exclusive stuff like i like a lot of different guns and i'm gonna shoot guns and i'm gonna post other guns and i like your stuff a lot too but i was like i'm not i'm just not going to be an exclusive person and i want to be able to shoot what i like to shoot and but i do carry your stuff and i do own your stuff and i love your stuff and i carried a sig 226 in the seal teams totally cool with that dude they're like yeah yeah do whatever but the only the only controversy sig had was a 320 but even a 320 like mind you would i carry a 320 i don't know if i'd carry a 320 would i have one next to my bed with a can on it maybe but they don't run they don't run well with cans i have one but uh but every time you watch the videos of the 320 going off it's like there's always some level of like oh well this is not the right holster i put it in Like there's always some level of like questionability.

3:57:27Well, the last thing, the last thing that happened, and I don't know all the, all the stuff behind this, but there was, there was an army, there was an army guy or an air force person or whatever that was shot and killed. Yeah, but then his buddy knew it. And so they use the narrative that the 320 was going off all by itself. Yeah. You know what I mean? They use that narrative to try to clear the, to the kid used it. like he used let me tell you to his advantage hold on i was on and then and then they did the investigation and the kid picked up the fucking gun and pulled the trigger and shot his friend but the narrative's getting used against him so that i got you a present oh but let me finish that so touching on that this is why like i kind of had to come to jesus moment with sig and i had to kind of like readdress it because i was the same way when i when i heard that story not only that i was kind of like fuck you sig i got mad at sig because i was like because i carry i carry a sig i have like fucking five sig guns dude so i kind of got mad at it and i kind of jumped on the fucking sig hate bandwagon and then once the real story came out i'm like man i just shitpost sig for like fucking months and it turns out this like guy shot himself so i think and even in the videos you'd like they're always weird you know it's like oh they're reholstering on a holster that's not made for the gun like it's just very weird and i think because it's such a common gun so if there's any video of this going off because someone putting a gun i mean it's probably one of those fucking popular guns but just by proxy and video you're gonna see that but yeah no i'm just fuck with you man i fuck with sig i own sigs i like fucking sig i'm glad you brought it up but um anyways let me grab it grab this for you got a couple of gifts for you

3:59:20Oh shit. So, uh, you know what this is? Uh, it's a... You look excited, Shawn. What's the, uh, it's a Sting, it starts with an S, right? What the fuck's it called? This is the Sig 300 Blackout Rattler. Yeah, the fucking Rattler, dude. It's got a collapsible stock here, folding stock, I mean, flip-up irons. It's got Sig's new, um, optic, which I forget the name of, sorry. sig flashlight and sig suppressor so um you want to test this out oh man i'm a lefty too by the way are you really i really appreciate the anti-safeties and uh nice now i can't afford to shoot 300 blackout oh uh touch the microphone now i can't afford to shoot 300 blackout but you know i think well maybe your rich white in-laws will buy some 300 blackout to go with it or maybe sig will be extra generous and just send you some yeah hey sig hook it up man i mean at this point yeah i got my buddy jason over there i told him you were coming on he got all excited and i'll tell you another badass thing about sig is so the sheriff's department that's just to the west of here they have a horrible budget they have like a three million dollar budget to run the entire department i'm friends with somebody that that works over there and he was telling me the guns they're running and he's like dude we got like these old ass like i don't want to destroy any companies here but this company upper the barrels are shot out different lowers and he's like we don't have any optics and and he's like guys are starting to ask if they could just run their own stuff and they don't want us to dude i got pissed i was like i can't believe they're sending and they don't have a choice they have no funding you know three million dollars for the whole department is nothing it costs more than that to run this and so uh i was like this is i can't believe this so i just i was like i'm gonna i'm gonna outfit this department myself if i have to and i called jason up at sig and i was like hey dude this is the deal So I was like, can you guys, even if you just give it to me, it costs.

4:01:40And so me and Sig are going in together. We're going to split it. And we're going to outfit that entire SWAT team with brand new rifles and optics. And another badass thing about that company is, are you familiar with the Roblox shit? Have you heard of Roblox? No. So Roblox is a game where all these predators are hanging out. Oh, God, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I know somebody. No, that game should be banned. Yeah. So I brought this kid in, Schlepp. That's his framed thing over there, his mom sent. Anyways, Schlepp kind of unveiled the whole roadblocks thing on what was going on. And so one of the things they did is they recreated this fucking game, recreated all the active shooter school shooting events and put them in the game.

4:02:26Not only did they do that, they put the victims that were killed. like remember all the kids that were killed at sandy hook they put the names of the kids over the kids so you enter the classroom and murder the kids they recreated the scene and they were using sig weapons so i got that to jason too and i said hey i just want you guys to know i did this episode and they're utilizing your weapons in that fucking game sig got their legal involved went after robux and i pulled the shit out immediately so regardless of whatever you hear about them no i mean again awesome awesome awesome i am i have the 20 the the gto by the way have you shot the gto yet they're 2011 oh my god i think it runs so great and like one of my i i say the gto is a pleasure to shoot i mean it's fucking flat it's nice i got that i got uh 320 i got like a few 365's i got the sig cross nice yeah i mean and speaking of the sig cross yeah i can never figure out how to fucking close these things where is it wait let me figure this out here's the same mechanism you ever shop with the cross yeah we got one in there yeah you like you push down oh god damn it you had to fucking close this here let me show you your shot and every time i grab my sig Push this down.

4:03:48Oh, yeah. Get this on. I just folded this damn thing. Oh, there we go. There we go. So, again, you guys. See, you gotta... If I can give you advice, you gotta fix this mechanism. Because everybody that has a sick cross, when they go to fold it, they always fuck with it. Naughty, but this is a beautiful gun. Hey, sick. Thank you, guys. I fuck with you, guys. If you want to shoot me some ammo for this thing, let me know. Preferably subsonic. What do you think about that? Hey, wait a minute. I got to ask you a question. I got to ask you because the gun guys will love this. What do you think about throwing a blackout?

4:04:24This is like the debate, bro. This is the gun debate. What do you like throwing a blackout? I mean, dude, I don't. If I like. What's your nightstand gun? What's my nightstand gun? Yeah. It's a pistol. It's a nine millimeter pistol, the Sig Macro. Okay. You don't do any rifle next to the gun? And then I got another one, the SIG MCX Spear, which I'll bring it out. Wait, do you have a rifle in your room? Dude, yes. Have you seen the armory here? So you do 300 blackout? I do 300 blackout. Here's why. Do you do subsonic or supersonic? I don't think it matters. I have both, but I find that just regular, not subsonic runs better.

4:05:13I always get jams with the subsonic. No matter what 300 blackout. Is your gun, do you have the suppressed, your rifle? Yeah, suppressed. What do you have? I do just, I'm a PSA guy, dude. My PSA's in my budget. What caliber, though? It is.223 AR-15, and then I have. I do 300 blackout because of the penetration. And then I have my nightstand gun. Because I don't want, I told you about what happened with the green tip, right? and so 223 is going to fly through the human fly through the wall go through the next wall and potentially go into my son or daughter's room right with the 300 blackout once it hits the flesh it's not going to have enough penetration to keep going and so it's a new nightstand gun then but i carry the psa ar-15 i do 11 inches and then i also carry the um gto is my night handgun nice i mean it's it's such a nice gun guys if you ever want to get a 2011 dude it's even for the cost like it's such a good cost entry for that level of gun i don't really fuck with cicado i just think they're kind of gay there's something about cicados here i'm just like every time you see a cicado guy i buy i own cicados but it's like they're just kind of fucking gay and then like the guys that why do you think they're gay and then the guys that shoot cicados dude like they're just like they're just fucking dildos like so in the motorcycle world there's like ducati it's like there's always like i'm the ducati guy and it's like you have like guns are marginally different so like people that get cicados they get so wrapped up in the name and the pistol it's like dude you're just gay it's like like you sound like a fucking european dude like you're just fucking gay so i just like i i can't fuck with cicado i mean they're a little do you tell me scott's not a little gay i don't think it's gay yeah but you know also too people understand like everybody picks a side with guns you'd guns are so marginally different it's a tool like when even when you're talking to handguns where they're talking about a hellcat i don't i think the hellcat's a little bit too snappy and i'm a big fan of the hellcat they're like glock or the sig dude there's just marginally fucking different and people are so tribalized we're like oh yeah dude i carry a carry a sig oh you fucking loser oh i carry a glock like oh you fucking loser your sig's in a jam like if there is a if there's a team someone's gonna pick it and they're gonna fucking hate you for not being on a team i'm not that way dude i like i've other than cicada other than cicada dude i like i like all guns i have sig i have smith and wesson like same with motorcycles i have fucking harley i have indian i have kawasaki i have yamaha like you know i'm just i'm not tribal i i've never really been like a a tribalistic kind of guy you do what makes you happy yep yep just don't point in my face yep I got going here's another thing vigilance lead gummy bears made in the USA not weed gummies just candy and then I got one other thing for you gummy bears but I gotta try one of these

4:08:16so talking about talking about God and all this other stuff right I'm gonna give this to you you read? I'll read if it matters well

4:08:42What is today?

4:08:51It's a book called The Jesus Calling. You read one thing a day, super short, takes no time. I will read. I read it at the end of the day. And a lot of times, I feel like it's talking about what happened that day. Maybe you get something out of it. Maybe you don't. I'll tell you what. every night i'll read a page starting tonight but yeah no i mean you know speaking of like god man i i cannot tell you the respect i have christianity it's like it's uh one of the greatest gifts that we've had on this planet is like the gift of christianity and like when it's used correctly and it's used in the way it's intended anything can happen but yeah i appreciate you dude Appreciate you, man.

4:09:38You've got a huge heart. I can tell. I'm kind of a pussy by out. But it's been an honor, man. I mean that. God bless.

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