Chappell Roan Controversy, Gen Z Humour & Our Favourite Transitional Staples | LuxeGen Group Chat

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0:28India:On this week's episode of the Luxian Group chat, one of our favourite influencers has landed in a little bit of hot water. Exactly, but I guess in that situation, he forgot to empathise and then be funny. He just immediately went to humour. He's reading The Room. We do a deep dive into all the Chaperone drama. The mayor of Brazil, he's so infuriated that he said that Chaperone will never perform in Brazil. And we've got an academic spin on all the hot things we're loving. And Netflix have done me an absolute favour and two really cool kind of documentary style programs have dropped. One is called Dinosaur and one is called Life on Our Planet and they're both voiced by Morgan Freeman.

1:02India:So you know that it's going to be iconic. Oh my God, that's going to be so good. See, so stay tuned and if you haven't already, make sure that you subscribe. Welcome back to the Lux Young Guru Chat, everybody. Today I am joined by India and Nikita. Hello, ladies. We're looking very fresh and quite transitional. We are. Are we all excited for spring? We have. We've all whipped out the bomber jackets, actually. Yeah. it's a crop jacket moment right ladies let's get into it i feel like the main thing that we've probably seen all over our fyps is the louis theroux documentary the manosphere now for anyone who hasn't seen this louis theroux as we know is a very good documentarian iconic in his own right but i think really interesting that this is probably the most different type of documentary that he's done in his career yeah he's obviously documented lots of people and lots of kind of interesting spaces however this is different because i think this is almost like a whole entirely new concept because it is virtual there's a manuscript it's not anything objective you can't hold it is something that unfortunately we are living and i actually do think it's been quite controversial how he's gone about it but i think overall he's done quite a good job in that he's given it the personality that he has with all of his other documentaries yeah yeah so you know he's not changed himself for anything but equally he's gotten the point across and i think in possibly quite a quirky way yeah but he interviewed some of the more well-known men fluencers that have been just spreading this rhetoric of misogyny but through a kind of warped lens of yeah dressing it up to be like we're creating the new generation of men like alpha male alpha male building up a man yeah what it is to be a man in 2006 please exactly and have you guys watched it i have seen clips across all the social media and i actually don't want to watch it because i've seen well previously before this documentary aired i've seen loads of clips of men that were um involved in this documentary before like on their podcast on their social media and whenever i see like videos of them it would get me so annoyed and get me so riled up that i actually don't want to put myself through that but i actually think it's important to watch us well i think not us because we know what is right and i yeah i actually agree that i actually think parents parents like watching with their kids i agree like adolescence was almost like the more refined version and the more educated version but actually i think this documentary is what it's like in real time yeah this is how it basically manifests this is what it looks like when your child comes home and starts saying these sort of things like one of the lines that that horrific hs tiki-tiki said was i'm doing this for money i don't care yeah i don't care about anything else was interesting about hs tiki-tiki because this is not me defending anyone by the way but hst kitoke compared to some of the other men he knows what he's doing and he's actually said that he knows what he's doing is wrong yeah it's more of a rage bait tactic as opposed to actually believing what he like puts out there which i think is just as bad it is he's actually it's wild because he's actually more self-aware exactly you know what you're doing is wrong but you're still deciding to do it for money for fame also in the documentary there's like a scene with his mom and like she's telling him to like pick something off the floor and he does it you know like yeah he's like a secret simp like he's a secret like normal because he has respect for her because he has respect for his mother i think that's the whole point is like he has respect for his mother he has respect for his girlfriend but no other women like yeah he knows exactly how he's playing this and he's really monetized off it and kind of like influenced such a young generation people like us can see through it it's so scary young men clearly cannot yeah and it is terrifying but what i also thought was crazy was when all of this came out i decided to go to these men's accounts and look at their following and see if i had any mutuals or people that i knew that were following them lo and behold really there i think hs ikitoki i knew about like 11 guys who were following him bear in mind this isn't the first time we've heard of hs ikitoki this guy's been around for years yeah i've known that he's been a bad person a weird guy yeah like since like two or three years ago and so you have had time to take a step back review like analyze your social media following and unfollow him but you haven't but do you think people are like your friends that or people that you know are following him do you think they're still watching his content for engagement like because they're like they're in like well entertainment sorry i want to cut them some slack and benefit of the doubt they haven't realized they're not his fans sure yeah i think it's like uh you've got to remember the first thing that for men there's not actually a lot of personalities that they follow they follow kind of more like streamers or footballers like twitch guys so i feel like whenever there's a guy who's like funny that they see it's like an automatic like follow whereas actually that you're right they've not considered what that person is spreading whereas now i would love to see what his following count has either dropped to as a result of this or has it grown yeah yeah that's what's scary that is scary don't give the person a platform that's i mean that's what people are arguing right why are you giving these men a platform yeah i think we are lucky like our ages are lucky that we've sort of gone past the age of men and boys being chronically online or growing up with like the age of social media that is current.

6:07When our friends and our boyfriends were younger, social media wasn't this like prevalent and prominent and like impactful in their lives. And so I think we've passed that stage where they've developed enough to know what is right and what is wrong and they're not impacted or influenced by things like that. but it's the like boys coming home after school exactly so i think i think hodh was saying earlier that she was um she some of her friends have been watching the documentary with their kids which i think is one way to like combat it or just to create awareness around that age group because they're not talking about it in school i don't know if they're talking about it in school they should be that should 100 % be on curriculum but also you don't know what is going on in schools on the weekends like as a parent and on the weekends at parties like you don't know what your sons and your daughters are saying amongst themselves or talking to themselves about so i think what hodges friends are doing watching with their kids is one step towards just bringing up the conversation in schools like i think that's a big big factor and it's a lot more

7:06India:impactful than i think people know i agree and i think with the internet and with social media everything seems really out of touch everything is a concept everything is conceptual and what i think parents need to re-remind their children of is to go outside touch grass and basically remember what life is about life is not all of fame life is not about money that is not the purpose of life life is to make memories make relationships that matter and make memories like genuinely like bringing life back to what it is because yeah you get so wrapped up in this whole life of corporate life nine to five life this kind of girly that aesthetic like all of these far-fetched concepts when actually no all you can do is as i say make the most of life in the sense of making memories and making friends and making relationships and having a life well lived.

7:55Guys, through for president.

7:56India:Honestly, like touch some grass people. She is a great life coach. She'll be doing the work for all parents. My child will be touching grass. Honestly, that will be it. But on a lighter subject, a much less toxic man that we all love, Jake Shane. Jake Shane. I don't know if you guys have watched the Vanity Fair Oscars after party. It was everywhere. I mean, yeah it was everywhere but um there's been some controversy around him unfortunately because i love him but um there's this film called if i had legs i'd kick you and i think it's essentially about a struggling mother who has a child that's sick i don't know if it's mental illness or like physical illness yeah it's basically just documenting that it's a really good film yeah i've heard it's amazing really good but it's documenting her life through childhood and motherhood and um it comes up during one of the interviews so jake shane and quenny blackwell were hosting Vanity Fair Oscars after party.

8:50Yeah. And they were interviewing some of the stars and they start interviewing Julia Fox. And this film, If I Had Lex, I Kick You, comes up and Jake Shane's first, like immediate response is, oh, wasn't the kid so annoying? Like screaming. It's like, wasn't the kid so annoying? Yeah. And you can see Julia Fox's immediate reaction. Exactly. A mother was kind of like, oh, like that's not, literally that meme. That was not the point. That's not the point. And she actually kind of has to spell it out for him and is like, well society has failed mothers like school finishes at three most work finishes at five it's hard for mothers to like oh my god care for children in this day and age so like and the kid was sick and damson idris yeah had the same response but you could tell he was trying to be a bit more like accommodated exactly and he was kind of like oh like i don't want to say that but like yeah the child was ill and going back to julia fox she's like okay i think we've gone about like gone about this too much like let's just change the topic but you know what i think

9:43India:I think that is, I think that is watching the gap between Gen Z and millennials in real time. Because those are all kind of like intrusive thoughts of being like, oh, isn't he so annoying? And also, sorry, I would have thought the same. Like mother to, like, man. Do you know what I mean? Like, we don't know what it's like to be a mum yet, but she has lived experience with that. Yeah, exactly. I can imagine that pulled on her heartstring and was like, well, actually, coming from my perspective. Yeah. yeah that is the thing isn't it where it's like our generation is now built on humor like i'm not gonna like i'm different you know all the like tiktoks where it's like but when you crash like does the radio keep playing yeah exactly when it's like oh the plane's going down what's your favorite meme yeah it's like i think that's what's funny about our generation because like we understand the severity of the situation and we still understand like we still have empathy towards those situations but we must it's just us making light of the situation with humor exactly but i guess in that situation he forgot to empathize and then be funny he just immediately went to humor and we were like oh you gotta be sad before you can make a joke it's reading the room yeah exactly it's also good to have a like a flashback it makes good like moment do you mean like it's more real imagine she was like oh yeah like actually it's better to have her real opinion come out yeah i think it's a good like shift i don't know yeah it's probably just like it's just different generation yeah i'm glad but he did get a lot of hate and um quen actually i think she was interviewed recently and someone asked her question I think it was like a what would you want the world to know or something like that she was like oh everyone makes mistakes it was obviously aimed at this yeah her response was everyone makes mistakes like everyone is trying people learn from their mistakes so something someone's trying something for the first time yeah cut them some slack let them make the mistakes and then they will improve yeah but then I was reading the comments and people were obviously had read the room and they were like well you're talking about Jake Shane number one and number two your first stage or like in interviewing if that's your first gig shouldn't be the Oscars then yeah so she well I kind of get it there's been this whole debate especially in the UK about should content creators be presenters yes yeah I actually think the overarching answer is yes I enjoy they are yeah me too they are entertaining they're good at it however I will argue that some of them are slightly more well suited and I think whilst Jake Shade is really funny perhaps the vanity fair oscar party wasn't quite the right space for him i agree i think somebody with slightly more professionalism might have been better that kind of thing maybe like hayley bailey another content creator but again she's very good at code switching between millennial and gen z whereas i think jake shane really swings towards very gen z yeah so no i agree but guys chris jenner throwing shade at him did you see when he went to interview her i haven't seen it but oh my god so she again just being her is like obviously speaking what comes from she's like how did you get this little gig and he's like i don't know how i got it either and everyone else is like we don't know so it's like very much that kind of like everyone knows but but also very much that yeah like realistically how did you actually get it but we're gonna make a joke out of it yeah fair play love jake shane though love him yeah but another celebrity that has been in hot water is chapel run when is she when is she not not in where is she not honestly i just she just like i can't go a tiktok squirrel without seeing like some form of she's just swimming in water like drowning exactly drowning but basically she is in brazil for lollapalooza she was at this hotel and the footballer jorginho's um wife and stepdaughter were in the same hotel as her they were at breakfast and his stepdaughter walks past and is like oh that's chapel ron apparently her security guard spoke really aggressively and rudely to the stepdaughter and left her in tears her mother was unhappy and obviously he told her husband Jorginho he put it on his Instagram and was like um I'm really upset by the way Chaperone security blah blah blah blah blah as you would like as a father who's caring exactly but it's now come out that the mayor of Brazil has said that like he's so infuriated that he said that Chaperone will never perform in Brazil ever yeah They're so protective of their footballers, aren't they?

13:49And then it goes like a layer below. How bad was the situation? I actually don't know. But then it goes a layer further. And I found out that the stepdaughter is actually the daughter of Jude Law. What? Like the real daughter. So I'm scrolling through Instagram. Wait, sorry.

14:02India:We've got on the ground journalism over here. I've done my research. I was scrolling through Instagram. No, real daughter. So it's Jorginho's stepdaughter and Jude Law's real daughter. So they? So Catherine Harding. No, this is like she's really young. Fine. I was one of the daughters but he has another daughter with this woman called Catherine Harding who is Jude Law's ex and Georgina's current wife so I was scrolling through Instagram she got a great roster honestly she really knew what she was doing anyways I was scrolling through Instagram and I see her and it's a picture of Jude Law a picture of Chapel Road and a picture of Georgina and I'm like what do all of these three have in common like I knew about the beef but why is Jude Law there and I read the caption and it's like oh Jude Law's daughter I'm like whoa I think if you are gonna be releasing high level music, which she obviously is.

14:48India:She's so talented within her own right. You know that a certain amount of fame comes with that. And whilst I appreciate it is really difficult to deal with it all the time, you have to accept a certain level of it. Otherwise, I think if you don't want to, then you have to be one of these people that performs under an alias. Or, you know, has like somebody cover for them kind of thing. Maybe doesn't go to hotel breakfast. Yeah. She's been known to do this quite a lot now. There was that guy that wanted a photo with her that she got really annoyed at him. And she made the video about it. And she was literally speaking to her camera and was like, I've told these guys that I don't want a picture and they're still taking pictures of me, blah, blah, blah.

15:24And I get that you want your privacy and your security, but people are going to recognize you and want a picture. But then she's actually spoken out and apologized. Has she? Okay. But her apology was kind of, I kind of, I don't really like chaperone, but I kind of, I'm kind of siding with her. Only because it was her security guard. and she wasn't actually aware, apparently. Allegedly, she wasn't aware that the security guard was speaking to this child, but she didn't even know this child was there. So she was like, guys, I didn't even know this child was there. So it's more of the security man's fault, but she literally was like, I don't really care.

15:56Like, it wasn't my fault. I didn't know the child was there. It wasn't my security guard. Like, ha, ha, ha. And people are now obviously angry about that because they're like, well, that was barely an apology. The idea of a big security guard talking to a little girl just makes me feel really sad for that girl. Yeah, that's not nice. I can imagine he's just like, no, slip away. in a way I just don't know I love breaking this girl's heart in real time that sucks

16:17India:in an era where like you get so many celebrities that are arguably a lot bigger that do it so with so much grace and elegance Zendaya how many times has she been sworn by paps but she will kind of smile be patient she's so graceful with it and it's like that's arguably the way to do it same as the Kardashians like they've dealt with it and they've had you know come on now like orderly way of going around but she's been like this since day one Chapel Road right She's very anti the press and the fame around her. She's kind of not built for it, I think. And I feel like until you're in that position where you have that kind of high-level fame and everyone's recognizing you, you don't know if you're going to crumble or not.

16:53India:Another hot list topic. I'm not sure if you guys have seen it, but the rise of South Asian attire cropping up in lots and lots of kind of high-end, high street brands. Oh, I've been seeing it. It's everywhere. It is flooding my feed. What do you think about it? Because it's actually starting to irritate me. It's a lot. But for anybody who hasn't seen it, it's all over TikTok and Instagram where we've had a lot of brand creators, South Asian creators, I think minority creators basically coming out and saying that they don't feel comfortable seeing all of these brands take elements of South Asian culture and kind of westernizing it and relabeling it as something that's not.

17:26India:Yeah, you're monetizing on it with no credit. Exactly, you're monetizing without just saying inspired by this. Not a single word of credit. It clears day to us. But as, because we're a minority, is no one, not the whole like population does not know this. so if you could just say inspired by this culture give it its name and give it the shoes that they are kind of you're saying that they're leather sandals they're chappals it's like saying a cross like a cross is not a cross do you know what I mean it's like saying oh an X symbol you know it's like saying X bracelet necklace you're thinking well that's a Jesus on a cross like that's quite clear but it's like saying jumpers jumpers all these things that are just so everyday and normalised well that's the problem because they're not even taking you guys into account like that there's no consideration and that's the like the beginning of the problem and then that's what feeds into them taking your culture and using it to monetize and go further with it exactly and this is like consideration that's literally what it is yeah so it's you're basically profiting off it without any consideration for how you're damaging these ethnic minorities and also how you're watering down such a rich culture say i think it's so interesting also because whenever and not just south asian culture but just minorities in general yeah minority culture whenever people are around or shown in their like traditional attire it's always seen as like less than yes yeah frowned upon yeah but then when a mainstream brand takes that exact culture or that exact item makes it cool yeah that's when it's like oh this is fun like let's try this but if this was seen in a brown or black person it would be like oh this is so scary yeah exactly it's such a shame that they're not just crediting because it would be so it would actually be so elevating yeah and if they just said inspired by this jump cars are you know like said something then i think we can all appreciate that yeah they are beautiful it's as little as that it's as little as that and i think in this day and age brands don't have an excuse because yeah you could actually reach out to so many creators of that culture of that community and say oh can you help us and then you could say you could get a group of them together as you would any other collaboration you know get them together and really do something cool with it but use an use a south asian model use a south asian design and actually work opportunity let's work with the people that are making it in those countries and bring back it's a whole full circle thing yeah i don't know like india as you just said like growing up i don't know if you had the same but will you guys ever embarrassed to be seen out and about in your ethnic attire i was yeah it was like if we had like an international day at school yeah i just it'd be like oh what can i wear or should i wear this my mom would be like wear this i'm like oh i don't really we were we were that generation where our parents would try and get us to appreciate it but actually we knew we'd get bullied for it yeah we knew we'd try and hide it like on a on a long journey nikita you get this but on a long journey to a wedding you'd be wearing your like indian suit you'd have to stop for petrol be like bagsy not getting out because you're like oh everyone's gonna look at me and now we do it with such pride which is an incredible thing so for brands to want to take it on it's like no this should be like a pivotal moment for us don't take this away from us like lean into it exactly lean into it and we can yeah it's already going with us it's just excluding us further which is really sad on period you got three of them here

20:43India:guys i'm absolutely loving this chat and if you guys are too then please please please subscribe and follow so that we can do more of this every week let's move on to things that we're loving who's seen what who's got what coming up what have we got going on okay so Riz Ahmed has a new TV show on Amazon Prime called Bait and the premise of the show is about him auditioning or trying to become James Bond yes oh wow and Gus Khan's in it like it's my friend's seen it already guys the clip is so good the teaser for it the teaser is incredible he's great yeah it looks hilarious it looks like actually looks like fun I cannot wait to like watch it yeah it's hilarious he's like well you know most James Bond actors they don't quite look like me yeah but then he goes on to say like all this like the sarcastic comedy in it is so good but then did you see the clip where he's doing an interview with an australian presented again it's like all comedic and the australian's like i saw that skit that you did about potentially being bond like that was so funny and he's like oh what what bit did you find funny like to be like why couldn't i be james bond but just the way that he does it with such a dry sense of humor yeah oh my god i don't think anybody else could do it like him yeah i just think he's so funny genuinely i've put like a save the date in my diary that's crazy do you think that he could potentially be the new james bond not after this tv series i think no agree okay in real life yes do you think in real life yes i kind of think he would have it in him i think he would be a good like british dry comedic element we need a salvation james agreed agreed i would love to see it we do yeah i think india's ally ally i agree india what have you been seeing and loving um i've got some fashion finds the first one's a bit basic it's just a white tank but i've actually ordered it in two sizes and i've kept them both because sometimes i like a really fitted tank like give me some cleavage sets me in yeah it's from bershka it's basically thick straps it's got a bit of a v-neck so like if you do want a bit of cleavage you can do you know what bring it up burshka has been popping off their basics are amazing i love their trousers it's really good and then so i got it in an extra extra small but it's a bit too tight but i really i really liked how it gave me some boobs so then i was like oh i kind of want a smaller size so i could just wear it with like some jeans and not be a bit like just be a bit more relaxed and casual so i got it in a size small and it's like the perfect thing to just throw on for example under this i've worn it with loads of other jackets really good for summer and spring just to throw on with a skirt um and it's ribbed as well i do love a ribbed spring collection is really good i've got some balloon pants they were like white they're like um i think the parachute was yes the parachute was everybody loved them but i was like guys they're really easy like throw them on with a graphic tee yeah a ribbed tank top a colorful tank a jumper easy outfits honestly yeah so i've been looking for the perfect tank and i think that is it and then um alohas have released these um really cool flip-flops so they're leather them and they come in burgundy i think like a nice like butter yellow yes like a bright yellow it's just so nice like just to throw on they just do the best shoes honestly they do the best shoes i love that they're all also like made to order yeah yeah so it's like it's a slow process when you order online yeah sustainable sustainable yeah no but their loafers are also really really good as well and they're a spanish brand we've got a spanish i mean in front of us yeah yeah yeah yeah my mission this year is to just become a spanish national she's gonna be spanish i just want to be spanish already yeah that's what i want what are you loving um do you know what i'm loving guys so i've told you this before that like when i was in school my dream was to be a marine biologist and i'm still like oh god bloody love animals like still just finding like a whole really cool world and Netflix have done me an absolute favor and two really cool kind of documentary style programs have dropped.

24:32India:One is called Dinosaur and one is called Life on Our Planet and they're both voiced by Morgan Freeman. So no way that it's going to be iconic. Oh my God, that's going to be so good. Wait, is that out already? It's already out. And Dinosaur's really interesting, right? And it's all with CGI. So they are basically showing you what the planet used to look like. But you go into a bit of a hole of being like, oh my God, like this used to be like the planet that we live on. like this was like the basics of what it was and the closest living thing to dinosaurs is a bird it's not an alligator or anything like that it is a bird and like life on our planet you learn about things like evolution and how the butterfly and the caterpillar how oh my god guys when i tell you it's just so interesting and like this is what i mean when i say we need to touch grass like you know when we were in school you weren't learning about kind of all the kind of far fetch concepts of how to deal with bullying and stuff like that arguably just as important but you learn about caterpillars from like the youngest age do you remember the butterfly and the cat the cat the cat of course that was like the most basic the most basic thing you would learn as a kid was about like frog spawn yes and about how a caterpillar becomes a butterfly everyone should know and like just like basic generic facts about life that we no longer know because we don't see it as important yeah but actually knowing about what the planet used to be like it's so interesting and it's such good conversation when you just meet a stranger no you're like isn't this good like you know so seriously take a break put your phone down and watch like these documentaries they are so good because i'm trying to read obviously i read but no you're really underselling yourself there guys india reads hardcore literature okay what are you reading like oh i'm currently reading um things fall apart by chinua achabe okay it's a it's a a Nigerian author um it's like one of those classics that like everyone should read in their life but I'm trying to read more non-fiction and just like learn more because I miss learning and so I was scrolling yesterday which I'm trying to also reduce and um this girl she's like an intellectual not intellectual influencer like a she's an influencer no no I get it like um she academic yeah she's an academic influencer and um she was talking about how she started to go to lectures as an adult yes and like free lectures that are held at the vna museum at lse like you can go to a university that hold like free lectures yeah i'm gonna start doing that you should i miss learning like i just i'm so like stuck into our age group gen z which there's nothing wrong with it you get sucked into it it's like just a bit too much and i actually need to take a step back because now i have flashbacks to like my childhood when i was a teenager when i was school and like i used to study like i used to be smart yeah so now and now i just don't think i'm as smart as i choose to do it wouldn't we exactly yeah and now i wouldn't dare so i actually want to get back into it because i miss it so this is why i use audible because then i can listen to my book okay i find it really helpful then i can go i can go for a walk and listen to my book yeah and i was in a real non-fiction phase but now i'm going to fiction so we can do a book swap i give you one have you read period power no i haven't you have to read that is it every woman should read period power it's by Maisie Hill it's about harnessing your cycle making it work for you and just really understanding the full depth of like your period like full-on knowledge about your period yeah it really changed my life that's amazing big one that's interesting what you said about the lectures though I actually had like within our like I own a coffee shop and we had a customer come in and like me and her are now really good friends and again she's such an academic and she's the same age as me but you know when you look at someone and you think wow like you've really harnessed all the opportunities you've been given she's lived away and you know had this incredible life and she said oh i'm going to a lecture next week and i was like oh i didn't realize like you were studying what are you studying she was like oh no like for fun she was like i just saw something that was really interesting about psychology and i was like oh my god i was like you're so right like lectures for fun why are we doing this i agree yeah and also i think one thing i've started doing is taking notes again like writing notes so i'm listening to a podcast on the history of classical music and they like each podcast is now a different era of music so baroque romantic classical and i used to study music but there's just some things that when you you forget and you just want to remind yourself so yeah now when i listen to i actually write notes to just remind myself and it's kind of like a refresher this is like the fundamental thing of when we are so chronically online and this is something i struggle with it's getting out of this productivity mindset constantly feeling like what you're doing has to serve a purpose it has to do actually you can still do things for fun yeah just enjoy it enjoy the moment oh my god that is so wholesome guys I think honestly we need to come together and have more of this like academia talk I love this we should like listen to the same podcast and then like talk about it read the same book and then have our takeaways guys watch this space because these academic content creators right here little academics over here I think this is a really nice way to end the pod yes right well ladies I hope you've enjoyed this chat.

29:27India:This has been a very wholesome one. And make sure that you like, subscribe and follow so that actually we can have more of these intellectual conversations that we've had today. And we will see you back here for the next one.