‘Heated Rivalry’ Gets Steamy, Winter Skincare & Zara Sale Buys | SheerLuxe Podcast

0:00Charlotte Collins:On today's podcast, the first in 2026, I've got Billie and Jen and we are talking sales purchases and all the beauty that you need in this freezing weather. I would also not necessarily a hand cream, but just add a really great like occlusive ceramide filled, peptide filled cream. And all the TV that we've binged over the Christmas period. But for those who haven't watched the first season, I cannot implore you to watch it more. It's a brilliant piece of television of a small amount I watch. We give you the rundown on the travel that we have planned this year and also the wellness destinations that you really need to have on your radar.

0:36It's not like a starvation camp. Like they do.

0:39Charlotte Collins:The food's actually good. I've been before briefly and the food's nice. It's just a little bit of a reset. So and finally, we solve your dilemmas. If that's becoming a sort of brotherly thing. Or like a dog. That sounds like a dog. talk then i feel like that's the red flag like yeah when they're like your pet yeah sweet but like maybe not romantic stay tuned do subscribe it's a goodie

1:11Charlotte Collins:welcome to the shillikes podcast the first of 2026 as if it's in 2026 that is i know that's mad welcome billy and jen thanks welcome to the future we can't start without talking about what we're wearing so girls billy what are you wearing i am wearing asos arrange barrel leg jeans which are my favorite jeans how good is asos array oh my god it's the best my my hoodie is also asos right so good best i just i'm just obsessed with it all like that's pretty much the only place i'm shopping for actual clothes and the size inclusivity is really brilliant and my shoes are the web a men's trainers a Vista purchase well done and these chunky silver earrings I got in Bali I was just admiring them they're really cool I've got no idea who they're from but they were lovely and inexpensive dream Gem my earrings are actually also from Asia they're from Malaysia they do very good metal very over there my polo neck is Unico Heat Tech which I think like 95 % of the office are wearing today jacket is Zara Sale the trousers are with nothing underneath.

2:17A really nice warm wool as well. And my boots are mango, but don't look too closely because the little heels come off one of them.

2:24Charlotte Collins:This is M &S Cashmere Men's. Size large. It comes up small. I actually bought this for my brother for Christmas and then we decided we weren't doing gifts, so I gave it for myself. Thanks, Andrew. And I'm wearing Banana Republic trousers. I wear these all the time with Uniqlo Heat Tech leggings underneath because it's chilly. I've also got a Zara Cashmere body on underneath there you go a little hint purchased from a few years ago listen what's going on on the crotch between leggings body knickers and trousers none of your business home to the loo where's Charlotte literally it's going to take some time today my boots my Kate boots which are so trash a bit like your missing heel they're actually bumming out so much I really need to get them fixed these are Catbird this is Arj oh yeah oh yeah nice it's cool isn't it yeah Zara what's the one um heaven mayhem well done they're heaven mayhem cool happy new year happy new year how are your christmases oh very chill one thing i've actually realized as i stay chill my family don't really have chill so like the days that you're meant to just like sit i wonder what it's like to sit on the sofa and like eat a box of chocolates what do you do well it's like oh this cupboard needs clearing out this drawer but it's like a group activity oh it's mainly like my mom's agenda for Christmas is like sort everything.

3:44Charlotte Collins:Do you also have this thing where your parents live in a house that definitely could house, like it's large enough to house items of yours but if God forbid you leave a piece of paper in their house they hound you to remove it. My wedding dress is there and every time I go home mum's like when are you going to take a wedding dress? I'm like I live in London you have a lot more space for me. There's more space. There's more space. But like a wedding dress is relatively cumbersome. It's taking up some space. Yeah. Whereas if an envelope comes to my parents' house How dare you? Can you come and collect the envelope?

4:11Charlotte Collins:Yeah. it's it's oh wow yeah they do not like storing my stuff okay yeah hurricane billy is everywhere at my parents house so that's predominantly what i did over christmas there's a lot of sorting good do you feel better for it i do i do feel lighter feel like cleansed going into 2026 i like the build up to christmas a lot i love the festive season agree actually the like between the 24th and the first i really don't like to do much i was so bored in that period like anyway i did watch a lot of tv yeah we'll get on to that like like an unhealthy amount oh wow so i have a lot to talk about. You wrote down on the list.

4:42Charlotte Collins:I need to get into TV in January. That's my goal. What a noble goal. I don't know. Like I don't know. Do you not watch stuff? I watch bits, but like I've realised the majority of what I watch on TV is either sports or like quiz shows. Okay. I don't like quiz shows. Quiz shows. Yeah, like The Chase. Oh, right. Or like who wants to be a millionaire. Do you really? Mastermind, love masterminds. That is so interesting to me that that's what you're into sure did you watch sabalenka play yes i did i did watch that um so this for those who don't know this was a a show match a they call it a battle of the sexes match billy jean king was kind of the the famous one um they did the movie about it didn't exactly yeah they did it's really good there goes something you've seen yeah oh it's thoughts i'm all over i don't know how you guys felt about the whole thing i don't know why sabalenka agreed to it i I think she thought maybe it was gonna be super fun, good vibes, which like it was not.

5:43Charlotte Collins:The crowd did not bring the energy. And to me, all it does is do women a massive disservice because she's like in a fucking powerhouse and he just wiped her out in two sets really kind of without breaking a sweat. I mean, he actually was quite dignified and said it was quite hard work, but I just thought it really set women back. I kind of thought it would be way more of a show match. Like I thought it would be a lot more like tricks and funniness just to kind of showcase tennis as opposed to it be this like man versus woman. Like I think it would have been way more fun if it was like mixed doubles.

6:15Mixed doubles, yeah. It's a showcase. Make it a showcase.

6:18Charlotte Collins:Don't just make it this scenario in which women just look inferior to men. I wonder how much the tickets were as well. I bet they were fancy. Let's talk about other TV. Jen, you've watched plenty too. I have, but my mind's kind of blank because I think it just goes in one or out the other. but I was catching up on Shrinking, which it's so good, isn't it? It's one of my favorite things on TV. Have you watched it? No, obviously not. I do have a TV rack to come. Okay, first, but also you would love Shrinking. It's really good. It's Jason Segel and Harrison Ford. They both play Shrinks and Jason Segel's kind of losing his shit a little bit and is basically like advising his patients to do crazy things.

6:59and it's really heartwarming and very funny. It's similar to, I would say it's got like Ted Lasso vibes.

7:07Charlotte Collins:Yeah, well, it's written by Brett Goldstein. Exactly, who's also in it. Have you watched Ted Lasso at all? Yeah, I have. Yeah, okay, so you know. She's a Richmond guy. Yes, okay. So Brett Goldstein is in Shrinking as a sort of smaller part, but he also wrote it as well. It was one of the writers. And it's very like uplifting, nice watching when everything else is quite like hard and scary and depressing. And I like that too. I like the gritty stuff, but it's lovely. And the next series comes out in like three weeks. Yeah. We should say there's like, there's a darkness to it because. Yes. Yeah.

7:37Charlotte Collins:There's a lot of grief. There's a lot of grief. The reason he's acting out is because his wife has just recently passed away. And so there's a lot about how he's processing grief, how he's parenting their teenage daughter. And then have you watched season two yet? Yeah. Okay. So then there's a lot that kind of gets a bit more complicated in terms of how she passed away and different characters. It's very cleverly written. But it's so funny. Where is it on? Apple. Apple. Billy, what have you watched? I have watched the first two episodes of The Night Manager. Me too. The new series or the old one?

8:06Okay. The old one I was obsessed with. Did you re-watch it before? Because I feel like I should. Yeah. Well, I actually re-watched it like about four months ago because I was like, I know that this is coming.

8:17Charlotte Collins:I don't think you need to re-watch it though. I agree. It's a different plot. There's things that are intertwined, but it is a different plot. But for those who haven't watched the first season, I cannot implore you to watch it more. It's a brilliant piece of television of a small amount I watch. Tom Hiddleston was an ex-military guy who then moved into being a night manager of a hotel. It's based on a John LaCarr book. Amazing actors. Hugh Laurie is this very hammy villain in the first season. Elizabeth DeBecky's in it. Olivia Colman it's like banger after banger of British actors Tom Hiddleston after that it was like he's gonna be bombed and then he did the Taylor Swift t-shirt thing that's exactly what I said to Ben he wasn't the suave character that he is in this that he is in the show yeah shame he's done alright he's been in like Marvel films I don't think we're worried about him no he's fine so the next episode comes out on Sunday enjoying it loving it it's really good are they drip feeding the episodes yeah I like that do you I do because I think it like engages you more that's true and also sundays january yeah something to do there's a lot of comparison to slow horses but like no it's not slow horses but that's okay i think it's a different product like yes it's kind of in that world but so horses is a very specific aesthetic and feel and tone and this is just something else yeah that's okay it's a good watch somebody's written down marty supreme have you seen it oh no i'm going this weekend i'm going this weekend also but you guys are putting me off all i've heard is charlotte's commentary about marcy i feel like can somebody in the comments please tell me if they also did not like this film it's not that i don't understand what the hype is i understand what's good about it it's incredibly well made you know the acting's brilliant it's not a bad film but timothy charlemais character is so profoundly unlikable that i truly didn't care what happened to him and every, it's a sort of, people might know that it's a story about a guy who was a professional.

10:18Charlotte Collins:Table tennis. Thank you. Professional table tennis player. And the kind of premise of the film is that he's aspiring to win a world championship, but he is a total kind of cad who kind of totally will step over anyone in his life to get to that goal. What I've seen so much of Timothee Chalamet in particular talking about is that this is a film about ambition and wanting to be the best and reaching your goals. And I completely disagree. It's a film about ego. It's a film about somebody who is so self-obsessed that they don't care about what happens to anyone else. And I found that so detestable so early on that I really just couldn't get you couldn't get behind it.

10:55I just really found it

10:58Charlotte Collins:really hard to be invested. That's so interesting because you're right. The propaganda around it has been very American dream. Yeah. You know, you can be this. And he's been sort of in character, I think, in some of the interviews, right? almost method acting through the press tour. He's really passionate about it. But with this press tour, he's gone so far that I'm like, I don't know where he ends and Marty begins. I don't know. Everybody else seems to have loved it. I never checked my phone, checked my time in a cinema and I was literally, when is this going to end? I so disliked it. Wow. I know.

11:29Charlotte Collins:I'll take. Okay, it's made me want to go and see it more. Yeah, I did. Please let me know your thoughts. I have another show that we need to talk about which only comes out in the UK on this Sunday, so January the 10th, called Heated Rivalry. I was really surprised to come in yesterday and find out how many people hadn't heard of it yet, because in the States this has blown up. So it's a show that was commissioned for a really small Canadian streamer. It was always going on HBO, but it was a really kind of low budget adaptation of some books that are kind of, I think a bit like Gossip Girl-y style books, which are about the two captains of rival hockey teams in the kind of Canadian American League who begin an affair.

12:16Charlotte Collins:They're both men. It goes across a seven year span in six episodes. In the closet or are they both? Both in the closet. But it's also, it doesn't start, you kind of see the sexuality sort of, it's not as straightforward as that. It's not as black and white as that. Like they kind of start this relationship and then a lot of what the program is about is sort of what are we? How are we defining ourselves? What is this? As a male gay friend said to me, it's amazing to watch a show about two gay men that isn't about something dark or depressing or even about any sort of social commentary. It's a, I mean, it's not a rom-com because it's not funny, but it's a love story.

12:58Charlotte Collins:It's a love story, yeah. And it just happens to be about two guys. The other side of it is horny as fuck, you guys. This show, like it's, It's basically soft porn. Like the amount you see is crazy. And it's just, there's a lot of sex in it. And there's been a lot of internet narrative around why straight women have been so captivated with it. And I keep seeing all these girls on TikTok being like, this has made me really question my sexuality because like, am I a gay man? Am I a gay man? Am I a gay man? But like the point, I think what people are talking about, what people are saying is that it's something to do with the kind of the anticipation, the buildup.

13:34Charlotte Collins:There's a lot of that kind of, it's not even will they won't they it's the kind of secrecy around the whole thing and the and the illicitness of the affair and i think there's just a you know this isn't just a sort of simple like two people may fall in love story there's a lot of kind of yeah almost like the hot priest effect of like it's exactly yes jen it's exactly kind of wanting what you can't have and that yeah it's exactly that which like women like it turns out yeah um so it all drops on Sunday and like honestly please just binge it it's like where does it come out I think Sky okay I think Sky and Now TV because it's HBO and then basically give yourself like an hour to do a deep internet stalk on the main guys because one of them plays like quite a kind of quiet I mean very quiet very sort of almost nerdy type and the other one he's Russian and plays this like super confident okay you know very straight yeah like like almost like straight passing alpha character and then when you see them doing all the press junkets everything they are like total total opposites they are both like so chaotic so fun um both of their instagram followings have grown in four months from under 10 000 followers to 1.5 million yeah i'm sure like they have and it's actually well acted and yeah so it's not sort of trash tv it's it's there's elements of trashy in that it's you know it's in the sort of oc okay one tree and it's not quite one tree hill but you the acting is genuinely really really good especially when you then see them in real life great so i highly highly my algorithm has literally been yeah me too everything i thought because the first time i saw it was on um evan cats's instagram and i was like has he created his own like dream show and you've never heard of it yeah i hadn't seen it he just made up what he wants to watch this like fit like rom-com yeah what was that book with the film um red white and blue no the Anne Hathaway one with the Harry Styles fan fiction.

15:33Charlotte Collins:It's kind of giving that because it's just some horny woman who's sat around writing this story. But like it works. It really translates into screen. If you want to make cash in 2026, make it horny. Make it horny. Although I did see somebody also talking about it on TikTok and being like, it's so frustrating because of what the TV companies are going to take from this is that people are really into hockey shows and we're going to see this massive, massive influx of hockey. It's like, just to be really clear, it's not the hockey. We're not. Interestingly, in BookTok, hockey is like a big thing.

15:59Is it? Yeah. Ice hockey. Yeah. Fascinating. Because it is so big in the States.

16:04Charlotte Collins:So big in the northern states. And I guess it's cold. Like what else to do but bang. And it's very like it's very aggressive and manly I think as a sport too right. It's not like it's not gentle. So true. Anyway do give it a watch.

16:23Charlotte Collins:Okay we're going to move on to Hot Topic and let's reflect, let's go back to Timothy and Kylie at the Critics' Choice Awards this week. I mean, that was... We need to go further back to the orange. To the orange. Coupling outfit. I mean, going back to the press tour, the orange is obviously the colour. It's a shame. It's not the best choice, is it? I really love orange as the colour. But it stands out. I mean, it's memorable, isn't it? Yeah. Did you see Meg Salter? Yeah. Yeah, so good. I can't remember what his name is, but I couldn't work out if it was done, like in kindness or if it was a bit mean girl?

16:59I don't think it was a mean girl because I think she I think everything she does is just like tongue in cheek isn't it? And she was like in character as well Yeah, yeah, yeah

17:07Charlotte Collins:They were posing They were posing as a storm Sorry, I should say that we're talking about Paul Downs and Meg Slaughter who are both in Hacks Yeah Who recreated the orange look that Timothy and Kylie wore It's a commitment A couple of weeks ago? It's a real commitment It's a real commitment It's a real commitment But he even had like the Chrome Hearts bag and everything Yeah I know like they had every detail I think the whole look was Chrome Hearts, wasn't it? Yes, yeah. So maybe they just borrowed it. Who was her look? Who, Kylie? Yeah, what was the orange? Leather orange, like, cut out. Oh, no, but I think that was also Chrome Hearts.

17:35Charlotte Collins:Was it? I think they were his and hers outfits. Wow, I know. It's very Justin and Brittany. But I kind of, I'm into it. Why not have a couple's moment on the red carpet? Let's move on and talk about something a bit more fashion-y because, Billie, you've got Estee Heim's wedding dress on this. Yes. Which I absolutely loved. Yeah, loved. People dragged on it. But like the second I saw her, I knew it was going to be something that people were mean about on the internet. She's so kooky that it had to be kooky. Like it'd be so boring if she just wore a slip dress. Yes. Like we've seen her do that a million times on stage.

18:08Charlotte Collins:Can you describe it for those listening, please? Yes. So S.A. Haim, she had this very structural, large, glamorous Vuitton dress, custom made. And her sisters also were in like a very soft, soft icy blue uh bridesmaids dress from friton but it's like huge big puffy sleeves big sort of like kind of draped caucity vibe like big hip structure big everything it was very like princess diana vibe um but i just thought it was quite amazing because we've like 2025 saw the bride kind of do very similar things like how many people did we see in the sort of vivian westwood's corset-y short number like i mean it looked amazing which i get why it was like a rinse and repeat but i think it was quite exciting for her to do yeah something big and she is she's a girl i also liked how the bridesmaids her sisters like they were very actually more simple and classic yeah so it let her dress like yeah do the talking yeah there was there was a vintage feel to it but it also cinched it wasn't just like total 80s because it had it felt modern because you know it cinched in the right places and I think the arms are quite straight it was quite theatrical it was very theatrical very sort of Shakespearean almost yeah but I love when the jacket came off it then was very simple on top and it just had this big full body skirt and like I don't know everyone's entitled to their opinion and I think if you're putting your wedding dress out on Vogue you know that you're going to get the opinion so you have to almost la la la and you know not listen to it but I do think we should just let people like be them yeah I think it really suited her like she looks amazing in it She obviously felt like herself.

19:44So I loved it.

19:45Charlotte Collins:The other thing, Jen, that you've got written here is when can we watch The Pit? Oh, yeah. Well, just on TV shows in America, The Pit, which has got Noah, is it Wiley, Wile in it? Yes. Who was in ER and he's now in this new medical drama in America. And again, it was one of those ones that was on a smaller station there. And then it became kind of a sleeper hit. And he keeps winning awards for it. And I'm desperate to watch it because I love, you know, like an ER, Grey's Anatomy medical drama. so I don't know when that comes here so I saw that you'd written this down so I did some research thank you and the Guardian have written a thing about how it's part of a kind of long canon of you know the historical slowness with which we receive American shows you know like how we would get Game of Thrones at 2am because that was the time it dropped in the States but they were saying about this show that what makes it particularly exciting is it's like 24 it's 15 episodes all in real time so anything else any other celebrity moments adolescents obviously scooped up a load of awards he was so cute he's also grown up loads I was like you look way taller than when we last saw you so cute I mean he won Stephen Graham won Aaron Dottie he won yes and then they won best oh Jesse Buckley's gorgeous speech Jesse Buckley's speech was did you watch the whole speech yeah it was so so she obviously she won um best actress for Hamnet and everyone's saying the Oscar nominations aren't out yet but everybody's saying that you know she's she's hotly tipped um to take that gong and she i watched so she took some notes out of her bag when she won but she didn't consult them once and she gave the most gorgeous speech i just i was really impressed yeah yeah she she made paul mescal genuinely blush yeah on camera like yeah he couldn't he couldn't look of course you agree so many people send it to me does everyone on the sherlock's world know of your paul mescal law should we just go back a minute yeah let's rewind go on all the way back to normal people oh i accidentally it was only meant to be a joke and i made this account for normal people for um connor because he wore this sexy silly silver chain um and it was peak peak i mean it was the perfect storm of like it was locked down everyone was bored and horny apparently we spent months nothing's changed spent months screenshotting poor pictures of poor medical objectifying him on the internet and birthed connell's chain and it blew up connell's chain yeah and then you met him and then i met him and i had to tell him it was me and now one of my best friends is his stylist and you know like he his cartier contract is because he's now like so synonymous with oh my god he owes you money yeah right yeah awesome cartier find his feet or cartier yeah either or love that but my most fun fact of the whole thing is that men's jewellery sales went up by 600 % men's chain necklaces went up by 600 % that year and why did I not get on affiliate links you could have been a men's jewellery influencer by now but yeah if you want to grow on social media guys just post thirsty pictures that's basically what I learned hot tip, there you go you heard it first thirsty, culturally appropriate yeah

22:59Charlotte Collins:Okay, let's move on. Ride or die beauty product. Ladies, you're the girls to know for this. It's so cold outside. What are your ride or die products right now? I know that in the summer, like, hair shedding is very normal, but my hair is dropping out in, like, bunches at the minute. So I have been going, well, I actually used it a couple of years ago and it's brilliant and I've gone back to it, is the Charpor Pitty Growth Hair Serum, which everyone pronounces shampoo. Yeah. Because I think it looks like it should be shampoos. That's that brand. But it is, it's actually pronounced Sharpo, but I had no idea.

23:33Yeah, I thought of the shampoos. Who has the most luscious looks in the whole world. It's not greasy. It's quite aqueous, but I would suggest putting it in at night, really massaging it into your scalp. And it totally changed my hair like a couple of years ago. Do you have to wash it out? No. I just think overnight, it just sort of like seeps into your scalp a little better. But yeah, if anybody else is going through winter hair thinning. get on it.

23:57Charlotte Collins:I was about to say is it like a thickening agent or does it help you with the loss? It's a regrow. Right. Yeah. Jen? My kind of winter beauty issue is just dryness. My skin just feels so dry and like lackluster. So I've been layering on thick, thick face creams. So two that I've been using are at two ends of the kind of price scale. Creme de la Mer, la Mer cream which is, it's interesting because when it launched it was like this is the most crazy expensive cream in the world. It still is very pricey but actually because now you have a lot of other brands like the prairies and bada and things that are up there the stern it doesn't seem so bad and it also is just so um it's almost like corky in terms of its it's like texture it's just so so thick feels like butter and then at the other end of the scale the inky list have this amazing ceramide moisturizer which is again very thick but not greasy at all so i'm using that more in the daytime um whereas la mer i basically put on like a face mask at night so do you have a hand cream you recommend because that's where i feel the feel the cold loads yeah and i actually get um chill blades on my hands do you yeah really horrible such dry skin so actually i would also not necessarily a hand cream but just at a really great like occlusive ceramide filled peptide filled cream so one that i'm using is dr jarts um sicker pear cream and that um has loads of ceramides in it so it's just going to help put loads of fatty acids into the skin and rehydrate them from inside out.

25:24Charlotte Collins:Because when I get really desperate I will take the Walida rich cream and just put that all over the top. Yeah, I find a lot of hand creams are just a bit wishy-washy and just have a nice scent so I would just look for a really nice like balmy oily cream. Okay, noted. Can I also just give a shout out to a lip balm because also I'm trying to do this. There is a Sarah Chapman overnight lip something I'm not very good with product names. The clicky thing at the bottom. It's amazing. It's amazing. Sensai do an amazing one too which is in sort of like it almost looks like skincare it's in quite a thick bottle an overnight mask the laniage one is great yeah that's very good oh yeah people love that one yeah great any other hydration tips I actually well I have a really good lip product that I tried it's the Dennis Gros the plumper the plumper oh my goodness yeah my lips I swear to god were 25 % bigger within like it's so good 30 seconds free filler it's like it kind of has that prickly feeling to it but it it was honestly astounding how much they actually plumped up it comes with a warning on the thing to like not basically touch your face with after all you have to like it's like you have to apply it within the lip line because if you apply it on your skin like it'll burn but but it's great no it's okay and they do tinted ones now as well that's beauty done what's on the fashion wish list right now I have got my eye on this brand called Dala, which is this really cool denim brand.

26:52But they have these amazing utility jackets. There's like a sort of washed black one. There's a khaki one that's like, I'm going on safari this year. So that's definitely coming with me. Let's talk about that. And I just think they're really cool. And the jackets are super size inclusive. I think the denim is also pretty size inclusive. but they do very, just like a lot of Japanese salvage denim, like doesn't budge, but sort of molds to your body and it's a very cool London, I think it's a London based brand.

27:22Charlotte Collins:I hadn't heard of it, but I clicked on, I had a look once. It's for you. The trousers are very you. I need to research it properly, but they are just basically like really cool people making really cool denim. It's just cool, Jen. It's just cool, Jen. I've not heard about it. Yeah, I love that jacket. Jen, what are you looking for? I'm looking for a good pair of like comfortable but cool black pointy boots basically and I actually went and bought some this weekend in a high street shop and as I was leaving the shop I was like what am I doing these that they were really like 30 quid they looked cheap they felt cheap but you know when you're like I just want these now I took them back well done and now thank you and I'm gonna invest in some I really love the flattered ones but there's a wait list which Which is annoying.