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27:43Charlotte Collins:The Guardian said, it's about how traumatized women make terrible choices, which sounds really dark, but it's a really, really funny version of that. It's kind of like the royal family meets, I don't know, like a Sharon Horgan comedy. Like it's very, it's messy and it's, they've got this mother, These girls are probably supposed to be their early 20s. Their mother is so hopeless, borderline abusive in the way she speaks to them, but is desperately, her entire MO in life is to pin down this man who's got a big house just so she can kind of move into this big house. And it's genuinely really good.

28:19Charlotte Collins:It's kind of of the - Is it one season? There's two seasons. Okay. I've watched the first season. The second one has just dropped. It's on iPlayer or on Hulu. It's directed by Simon Bird from the Inbetweeners. It's kind of like a feminine Inbetweeners. Okay. love that but there's nothing feminine about it it's pretty they're a bit grotty these girls but it's um they're all incredibly kind of egotistical dealing with their own mental health problems in very different ways and it's dark good sleep is everything that's why ollie's science back support is made with a blend of melatonin and l-theanine for both kiddos and grown-ups so when your mind won't switch off you've got something that can help Erasing thoughts and restless nights won't stand a chance.

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29:42Charlotte Collins:Right, let's move on to fashion finds. Do we do beauty in this segment as well? Yes. Why is it called fashion finds? Well, it can be fashion slash beauty. Okay, fashion slash. I feel like let's put some beauty in there. Let's throw it in. I feel like we've got the queens. Sarah, what are your recent finds? You said you had a lot of fashion. Well, I know. You put two to three, and I've got eight. Okay, number one, sculpted by Amy, Cream Luxe Blush. Have you tried that blush? Hodge, this is your blush. I'm looking at you now. This is your blush. Because I'm using Ilya's Soft Focus Blush. Right. Which is also stunning.

30:15But this, it's like Korean technology where you're going to just bounce it onto your cheeks, and it just brings you to life. Then I've put Skin Rocks the Strong Acid. Okay. So this is Caralhydrone's. If you have any buildup on your skin, it's dull, it's dry, it's dehydrated. What this does is you just put it on a cotton pad and you'll do it around, you know, around the nose. You can't do it in areas where you tend to just feel like it's got that textured feel. Yes. And suddenly it's like baby's bottom smooth.

30:40Charlotte Collins:I have a biologique research version of that, which I love. Exactly. So what I find with this is there isn't that like stringent smell to it. and even though it's called strong, it doesn't feel strong, but it works really, really hard. And what do you follow that with? So if I'm using in the morning, then my moisturizer and then my SPF. So that's it. Cleanse something like the strong acid, moisturizer, SPF. And in the evening, cleanse, strong acid, moisturizer. So is it okay to use an acid like that in the morning? Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't do it every day. But if you've got an event and you're going to put makeup on for a day event, you can definitely just use it to just buff away any of that texture.

31:17you know what I mean by that totally

31:19Charlotte Collins:yeah yeah that's yeah you know what I just I used it and I kept doing this and you shouldn't touch your face but it felt it felt like silk love that feeling really really amazing you know when you've used a dermaplaner oh yeah it's like that but in the skincare okay great do you guys know C. Athaly Kath Kidston I mean I know Kath Kidston okay yeah no no this will blow your mind so Kath Kidston the same lady the woman Kath Kidston so she sold Kath Kidston and she has started Sea Athelene. This is the most stunning bath and body brand. I feel every bath and body brand in the world sat up in the boardrooms and like, we're in trouble.

31:59Every single product is quite, I say life-changing, but you put the bath oil in and the scent and the texture and the whole experience just changes your bath. Wow. Then the shower gel, then the hand wash. So she has a greenhouse at home and she makes everything. She grows the plants. She's just the most talented woman you will ever meet and you'll fall in love with these products. Wow, how new? Is she like a botanist?

32:26Charlotte Collins:Like she kind of puts together her own lotions and potions. Well, she's got a whole team. But it all started from her. Yeah. So during lockdown, she was like, I'm going to be really extra. I don't do Kath Kittin anymore. I want her to retire. Retiring does not suit me. So she got this greenhouse and she started to grow plants, I'm just in love with it. Like whenever I've had like a long day or a stressful day or I'm feeling overwhelmed, I have this bath. I will get you the right bath oil. I think it's called number one. Put it in my bath and I lie there and I just think I'm fine. We never have to use bath oils.

33:00It takes a ton of ours. Well, that is, but towards the end of the time. Yeah, I do use it to take the time. Yeah, that's great. I'm quite enjoying June Bird's new body range. It smells so good. It's like a midnight feast. and this show yeah of course yeah dr alexis it's such an interesting brand because she's a consultant dermatologist so you're going to assume that it's going to be really dumb like everything's going to be but she's so cool she's so fun she's like really broken that boundary that consultant dermatologists know how to do that whole sensorial journey too because it's not just clinical you mean yes it's got like salted caramel vanilla and but like it doesn't irritate the skin obviously not like with her background sure anyways yes yeah um okay let me go quickly um and then i've got a few here for fashion i've got the same los angeles which we spoke about which is gonna be so good beachwear for ibiza the sarongs okay really sexy really sexy tibby heels love the new tibby heels they've got like they're called the urno heel they've got like the point at the front yeah i wore them and trini actually took them off my feet the other night and everywhere where I went, they just elongate the leg.

34:08They make me look taller.

34:09Charlotte Collins:It was so good. I am such a Tibby fan. Like, I feel like not enough people in the UK know about that brand. But Trini definitely likes their footwear as well because she's got their really fluffy heels, which are amazing. And what I would say is, you can walk in there. Which I feel like turning 40 is like the number one prize to wear heels that you feel great in. But you can also walk. Like, gone are the days where you're willing to like, be in pain the whole night for just to look good. I just don't feel my feet anymore. So there you go. That was a really good list. thank you so much I want to get those What are you loving?

34:38Charlotte Collins:Oh What am I loving? No this is not called What are you loving? Have you got any Fashion Oh sorry Different section Come on guys It's your podcast I would have never realised that Well Okay I bought the coolest sunglasses in New York Oh my god The silver ones The silver ones Did you see these? No So this is a brand called Bavita Ramesh She's based in Mumbai I mean these are Listen They're not for everyone These are quirky But I really like a fun quirky accessory They're very cool They are wild. Only you could pull those off. I was about to say, I'd get put in a home if I tried to wear them, but you look great.

35:12Charlotte Collins:Go on the website, they have all sorts of really cool, she does amazing metal work with both gold and silver and all sorts of kooky creative. But I don't think, they're weird, but I don't think they're so weird that they're unwearable. And I love having an accessory like that where if you're just wearing something super simple, it just makes it like, you're like, oh, you're cool. It's got that energy to it. So I'm really thrilled with that. And also I love finding something from a brand that isn't really mainstream. Yeah. No one else can get it. No one else can get it. Well, I mean, you can get it.

35:40Charlotte Collins:I've given you the name of where to get it. With a link. Yeah, with an exact link. But maybe don't. Let me have it all to myself. I also want to talk about, I think it's called Vogue Girl, V-R-G-G-R-L, which the fashion team here love. Aussie brand. I believe you can actually get it on ASOS as well, which I didn't know. But they do these amazing dresses, which are for our Ibiza trips. Okay, good, good. They are, can we have a group after this? Yeah, yeah. We just send links. They're like sheer maxi dresses. They're like tank tops that are long but sheer. And they do them in all different colours.

36:12Charlotte Collins:There's like a black one, a white one. There's some that are sequined. Like cottony or? Just more like a mesh. Okay. But just really, really cool over a swimsuit. You know when you want to like cover up in some capacity and like you can't see all your skin, but like it's not, you know. You can still see your bod. Exactly. About 100 quid each. I think that's key because I think people get too direct. They over thought it and then there's too many bits and pieces. and actually for the day especially. Yes. Just you want to throw that on. Exactly. And it's so much, I mean she says that, I've always got everything out, but I think it looks so much chiquer if you're like, you don't look tight.

36:45Charlotte Collins:Also you're like, I'm a sweaty girl and I can't be at a beach club and just be like sweat free. So less layers. Yeah. Is better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hodges, what are your fashion finds? I'm going to be super quick. I have just got a pair of those cobalt blue trousers. Lucy Williams has done a collab with nothing underneath I'm quite pumped to wear them because it's quite a strong colour but nice with a white vest and then flip flops I feel like Monique is nailing that whole look at the moment I love a colour of trousers I've got a mauve pair from Lissette their carpenter wide leg trouser is such a good shape it goes out and in at the right places but they're so handy and like good on holiday good for the city I think they're like a good staple for summer did you know that they have a t-shirt that Harry Styles wore which went completely viral and it's like they cannot keep it on the shelves because it's a Harry power of Harry it's a little crotch number yeah so good I do love the set you also have on your list Gel by Essie I gave up Giles in January and how are you doing?

37:55I just I really resent going to the salon it actually puts me in a mood yeah it's the worst

38:00Charlotte Collins:like it actually makes me rain my nail girl knows i hate it i'm like hey she's like joyous as ever yeah i really don't like it and also my nail you know i put my nails into the lamp and it was owie yeah um so anyway i gave them january and i feel like i've given myself a gift of time and then gel by assy have just launched this new gel and i love them and it took me like five minutes and it lasts for two weeks and you can take it off with normal nail polish remover so So it's not a heat? No. Okay. So it's just you pick your base color and then you do a top coat. Okay, nice. It's so funny, nails.

38:33Everyone has such strong opinions. I think more than ever, it's like free the nail is what everyone's calling it. Yeah, okay. And in the book, there is a whole nail chapter. So many nail techs have been like, thank you so much because nails are such an afterthought to hair and makeup. And actually, like, for me, I'm thinking my nails are at the end. Like, it needs the next appointment. and the way it, like, it just changes your mood. Totally. That fresh manicure, whether it's gel, whether it's not, the way it makes you feel, you just feel so much more put together. And I think you feel more, you honestly feel more confident when you're talking or if you're going to walk into a job interview.

39:12I don't know, for me, I'm so team manicure that I just, I know it takes a long time but I find it so worthwhile. I sit there and resent it

39:19Charlotte Collins:but I would never skip an appointment. I love your nails like that. Do you? I love them. So this is big for me. I'm never a short girl. I know. I think they look great. Thank you. Well, I was similar to you. I'd gone three weeks and I do biabs. So they really don't budge. And they were long even when I first got them done. And by the end, I got back from New York and I was like, just get these. I was like, just, I just don't want to ever look at them. I just need to go fresh. It's like their claws at the end. They were claws. I couldn't do anything. I couldn't type. I couldn't take my lenses out.

39:45Charlotte Collins:Like, I was just. Oh, my God. And it's quite liberating going short. And anyway, they grow. So, you know, they'll be fresh. Because it's cheap. I have to relearn how to type every time I do this. Because when you've got long nails, you've got to press like this. It's completely different. Oh my God, that is so weird. You do this like in the car, if you need to press, you go like that. Everything's a press like this. Because I've never had long nails. So these extensions? Yes, for the first time ever. They look great. And everyone keeps laughing. I'm like, so how are you? And they're like, why are you doing that?

40:12Charlotte Collins:Why are you posing like that? You change everything. But you feel the glam, right, when they're long.

40:20Charlotte Collins:okay we're skipping the celebrity section because we've got our own celebrity in our midst we've got to talk about the book hang on let me extract it from this she's been hiding it i've been thinking this whole time charlotte put it behind the mug under the lamp i didn't want to sit there throughout the whole podcast and hold it like this here you go give it a nice plug very beautiful i love that font thank you so this is actually um my this is actually my cousin's handwriting she wrote diary of a beauty editor and we printed it yeah um so diary of a beauty editor this bit stresses me out what works what doesn't from the woman who really yeah you know you're gonna back yourself time time to do it yeah um yes five years in the making it's been a real labor of love when i started it i wasn't do you want to ask me questions I'm just going to do it to liberty.

41:09No, no, I will, but stop. Okay, fine. When I started it, wasn't married, didn't have kids, hadn't gone through my whole life story. So I was a very different person. And at the time I gave myself quite a hard time about, just get the book done. And now I'm secretly so happy because there's so many different versions of me in this book. Wow, that's so lovely. You know, on the weekends I had so much time and I was writing about how to get ready when you've got two hours. And by the end of the book, you're like, just do this and you'll be fine. Go. So it's broken up. So it's really, really helpful if you are at that beginning stage, the skin, hair, nails, makeup, self tan, cosmetic treatments.

41:45I do a whole checklist area. So checklist for holidays. And I really thought carefully about this one because it's quite weird to call it a checklist. But there's a cancer checklist in it that I worked with amazing Charlotte. Oh, you did? Yes, because she's done some incredible. She really has. She's created some incredible content because everyone buys you a hand cream. Yeah. when you get a cancer diagnosis they think we'll just give you a hand cream and it's like there are so many things that you want and need and it's such a vulnerable time and every brand says check with the practitioner before you buy it so it's all in the book oh i love that which i just thought was so important to put it in there obviously i've gone through it with my best friend alana who you guys know the jewelry designer when we did spend a day with her she talked about you and how amazing you were when she got diagnosed and how you helped her with all of her beauty bits and bobs.

42:34Well, I think it's really interesting because you feel bad to care about beauty when you get a health scare. And that's what I say in the book. There is this taboo that beauty is nonsense and frivolous, but actually what you see in your reflection every single day is going to determine how your day is going to be. So whether it's your hair, I always say when I've got loads of dry shampoo and my nails are a bit tired, I know that mood I'm in. I just can't be bothered to deal with it. I'm run down versus when you just had your nails done or you just had your hair done and your makeup feels great yeah and you just it changes your personality so the big thing I say is this is how to feel good as well as look good and then yeah it's just really useful really practical but in each chapter I do letters so I answer I answer letters in my column at Sunday Time Style and I've tried to put that all the way through the book so the woman going through menopause the teenage boy who's struggling with his skin, the man with his receding hairline or the woman with her receding hairline.

43:32I really try to talk to everyone, the new mums, the people who don't feel seen in the beauty industry. Hence, it started as like 230 pages and we finished on 303 pages and the publishers hate me.

43:46Charlotte Collins:But hopefully it will be worth it. I was saying to you before that I love, I didn't expect it to be so full of product recommendations as well. I was flicking through the fragrance section yesterday and you were like, these are if you like this type of fragrance go for this and if you want to buy fragrance gifts but not actual perfume then like this is what you go for i just thought it was genuinely it's a manual for literally like isn't you wouldn't need to touch any other beauty advice ever again right i think that's every time i finished a chapter and i would reread it i thought is this just an instagram post i didn't want it to be there what's the difference so what i try to do is to make it so that it was practical useful and storytelling all in one yeah so when you read it it's got everything in there so as charlotte was saying there's the 10 pound fragrance but also the fragrance that's going to be your summer holiday one your date night your weekend one and i just want people to smile and feel joy as they flick through you you don't have to read every word although do it's great but you know you don't have to you can flick through yeah pick the bits that speak to you people have said they've just read it and they've really smiled it's me with my frizzy hair struggling and how i the chapter's called bk and ak so before keratin and after keratin and it's all about how it just changed my life like I didn't used to go out because I was so embarrassed of my hair I would honestly not go on holidays with my friends because I thought they're all going to be swimming every day I was so self-conscious of my hair and now I'll go on tv and the questions will be like what's your hair what's the secret to your hair I cannot believe it's me yeah yeah being asked about yeah about my hair now like I've come so far and everyone says oh what made you become a beauty editor and I think beauty editors are quite sort of strange creatures like as in we've all got our own isms of why we became a beauty editor some people love fragrance some people love makeup and for me it has been from the very beginning problem solving i love it's what makes me tick getting that message saying thank you so much my skin is so much better thank you so much my child now has the confidence to feel great in her skin you know thank you so much a beauty industry never speaks to me i'm 72 and suddenly I feel great like my eyelids are crepey but they look great with that one eye shadow yeah so it's it's problem solving and that is what this book is it's pro it's your friend it's your it's your yeah it's like your problem solving come on we can do better than that what's the catch line your problem solving best friend yeah hold your hand yeah um I really loved I saw a bit um when you were talking about your hair in the book where you say never say to somebody with really frizzy or curly hair just embrace it and because that's how I feel about my skin we were talking before about skin like don't tell a super pale person who hates how pale they are to embrace it and as you said before that's amazing if you can it's not a judgment on other people but you know i think how you feel right it's how you feel and that's the point of you know all the beauty advice that we all give all the time it's there's no should there's no you should do this or you should do that it's if you want and if you can i saw jimmy carr the other day talking about his hair transplant did you see that and it was on the katherine ryan yes on the katherine ryan it was such it was so It was so good.

46:44Charlotte Collins:And he said, he was like, I had a hair transplant recently. And she was like, well, why did you do that? He was like, well, I see myself on camera all the time. And I hated my hairline. And my motto in life is, if you have a problem and you have money, and money can solve that problem, then you don't have a problem. And I was like, this is so true. If you can fix something you don't like about yourself. Why do we feel such shame to fix it? So that's what it is. Like, it's all the things you can do if you want. And it's interesting because a wine editor wouldn't be worried to recommend an expensive wine.

47:11Or a car writer wouldn't be able to. you know if he says this is an amazing ferrari you're probably not all going to be able to have it but we feel we've got to say if what but but you know if you can afford it great but also incredible because there is a whole high street hit list in here because you don't have to spend a fortune to look great as well and you don't have to do it all you can just do the bits yeah amazing i love that what's your thing that you found it's changed everything tan pick tan why do people do that you don't need to wear so much makeup you don't need to why you don't need to do the tan like you don't your hair looks fine the way it is and it's beauty shaming it is and there is so much of that and i always say to people there is a very good reason why that person's doing it and they're probably feeling vulnerable or self-conscious about it so just don't ever say you don't need to do that because they do it they've done that it's the same with clothes people are like we get like it's super chill vibe tonight because i think that i'm so everyone and i'm like i'm gonna fucking wear what i want to wear yeah if i want to be over the top i'm going to be over the top because you only live once and i want to wear what i want to wear what's your thing as bad to say what's your um maybe blush and eyebrows phil holly parks really helped me out yeah same she's incredible god bless holly parks look at me she's in the book of course she is there's actually you were the editor in here when i talk about blush because we talk about the The blush wardrobe.

48:29Oh, yeah. Am I in it? Yes. I've only just met you. You're the number two. Footnote.

48:37Charlotte Collins:Dear Hodge. Let's write back to me in your book. Tell me more. You do. Double blushing, the double blush technique. Yes. We used to always say a foundation wardrobe or a fragrance wardrobe. I think a blush wardrobe is so needed because I start with the cream blush and then I put powder on top. It does not go anywhere. it gives just the right amount of like bounce and so yes I think a blush wardrobe is a real thing but sorry sorry back to you when we did that we did that zoom call um and with Deborah Joseph we did that call and I was like sorry what's that blush and you said you've got three on yes I then I was like oh that's content everything became content and I said I was on the call with this editor who said I've got three on it it's so normal to me yeah but I think the average person would never think to put on more than one blush.

49:24Yeah, so true.

49:25Charlotte Collins:I do three quite regularly, actually. Because at the moment, I'm doing a road one, which is quite an earthy. The pocket blush. The pocket blush. I love that. So good. But not very pinky. And this is different. So I've got the bronzer on. Not that. That's separate. But I do road like here, which is a slightly more terracottory. And then I need the pink, so I do Merit. And then I just set it with a powder blush. Yeah. I'd love to sit here and talk about this all day, but I feel we've been talking for a very long time. So we're going to end with some listener dilemmas before we do that, give a very hard plug to the book.

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51:07Charlotte Collins:let's end by doing some listener dilemmas this is a good beauty one how this isn't really a dilemma but how often is too often to wash your hair well it's all in the book finally enough but it totally depends on your hair right yeah you know do you have oily hair fine hair dry hair thick hair afro hair textured hair there are so many different hair types but it does depend on one your hair type and to your lifestyle you know i could say five days but if you're a gym bunny and you go to the gym every day so it's actually an impossible yeah i still got time i i bet you can go a week eight days i don't wash my hair for eight days i think i'm on day eight now you can see because my hair doesn't go oily it goes dry you can see at the end it's starting to like matte into a bird's house honestly what i would give to be able to go more than two days yeah i've got very fine hair yeah every other day what do you use to wash your hair um well interestingly enough so i've been using a rebate for the last like i don't know couple of months i tend to just use whatever kind of crosses my path but i was in new york for about 10 days and so was did three consistent washes with sam at night because i had two travel ones i love him and i got back and everyone was like have you just had your hair colored and i was like well no i last had it done about three weeks ago but obviously loda said to me yesterday what have you used a different shampoo because i reckon the sam mcknight was bringing out the blonde more than the ariba which i'm happy about or the ridiculous tan was also bringing out the blonde well perhaps um wait i love this question somebody says all my friends are suddenly in their wellness era and i still want cocktails and nights out am i the problem you can be in both can be you do both very well what's the secret to the balance i i have a terrible but i try to do both i'm always tired I always forget my supplements.

52:39I always forget the gym class. But I have a great time. So just do the best.

52:44Charlotte Collins:I honestly think there's, we had a conversation a few weeks ago on the podcast about the should, right? The should, a bit like we were talking about with beauty. The kind of shoulds that we all feel, particularly as women, that we should be doing this. We should be doing that. And like, honestly, we're all just trying our best, aren't we? So if you have a week where you just drink too much and okay, be better the next week. Do you know what my mother-in-law said to me and I've always held onto it. She said, just think of the word enough. Like what you're doing is enough. Stop trying. we all make ourselves feel so bad about ourselves.

53:09Like just do your best and that's enough. And each week will be, you're never going to get it perfect. So each week will be slightly different. But as long as you've done your best, that's enough.

53:19Charlotte Collins:I feel like it's your trick that you have habits. Cause I feel like you are very good at like, you just stick to your routine. So you know, at least if you're not doing anything else, you've got your supplements in that day or whatever. Like every morning when I, when I come to the office, if I have exercised, if I have taken all of my supplements, if I drink two liters of water a day and I've had my smoothie which has got you know all the good stuff in I'm sort of equipping myself to have a good day in the best and feel the best I can and then when I'm drinking three margaritas that same night I'm like it's fine okay and finally uh this is one for us my boyfriend hates my long nails do men just not get nail culture My husband hates my...

54:02He is literally like, what are you doing? Well, because it doesn't look like you to him. Yeah, he doesn't look like me, but also like... I love that. But are you doing that up and down his back? Where he likes that? I should try that. You should do that. Yeah, they like that more. Maybe you'll like him a bit more.

54:16Charlotte Collins:And his balls, I'm sure. Okay, top tip. Cut. That won't be cut. That's definitely staying in. I feel them like that. Do you think, with nails? I'm not sure nails add to that. Scratchy. Ooh. I've got short nails. I don't do it. You wouldn't know. Well, you don't know. I'm literally the biggest prune. I'm not coping. I need to go now. I'm so sorry. I think the problem is dark. I'm not comfortable anymore. The burp. What the fuck? That's not in the burp. Can I say, I think it depends how much, going back to what you were saying before about nails, how much they are a thing for you. Because, like, people always say to me, like, what does your husband think about the fake tan?

54:51Charlotte Collins:I'm like, no, no, this was not, there's absolutely not a conversation to be had. No. Tough shit. And I kind of feel the same about anything to do with your beauty. me say like this is my body my body my choice yeah yeah it's funny because i do sometimes think i want to look really lovely for my husband and that's fine you know you can want to look nice for other people but ultimately you just have to look in the mirror and like your choices that you've made i also think with nails it's that thing of you know when someone who follows you finds you cringe because they know you so well versus someone who doesn't know you who's finding you really inspiring like yeah it's that like your friends are like so embarrassing why is she dancing on TikTok.

55:27Yeah, yeah. But like you've got all these people being like, you go girl. Yeah, you're amazing. You're an icon. If someone knows you, they might be like, we know you're a nail biter. What are you doing under there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like the average person is going to be like, your nails look great. Fabulous.

55:38Charlotte Collins:People won't know that it's new. Exactly. No. Yeah. There you go. Okay. This has been the longest podcast ever. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. Congratulations on your fabulous book. Thank you. We're all thrilled for you. Yay. And it's out today. Please subscribe if you haven't already. I know we keep asking, but it's for a reason. It would be very, very helpful if you did. And we will see you next time. Bye-bye.