

2 Nov 2026 · 1h 27m · 36 chapters

Final-day midterm election coverage focused on Senate races and election messaging, including a major Michigan endorsement reversal, plus discussion of AI-fueled election disinformation and party strategy in Kansas, Ohio, Maine, Georgia, and Israel’s government formation.
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Discussion on Haley Stevens endorsing Mike Rogers and its implications.
“My name is Haley Stevens I'm a proud Democrat and I am endorsing Mike Rogers for the United States Senate.”
Overview of polling data showing a potential blue wave for Democrats.
“But will her choice to buck the party change any voters' minds?”
Haley Stevens defends her endorsement in an interview with Anderson Cooper.
“It sounds like you're upset with me too, Anderson.”
Brian Todd reports on voter reactions and sentiments in Michigan.
“Mike Rogers is going to be a vote for Donald Trump.”
Analysis of the tight gubernatorial race in Georgia and its candidates.
“with what American people are struggling with Alright well thank you very much for talking to us good luck with your vote your first vote tomorrow are you excited?”
Discussion of the competitive Senate race in Maine between Collins and Jackson.
“All right, still ahead here in the Situation Room, artificial intelligence is already fueling election disinformation.”
Voter feedback regarding candidates Troy Jackson and Susan Collins.
“Democrats almost certainly need to defeat Collins to capture a majority of the U.S.”
Discussion on the competitive dynamics of the Maine Senate race.
“Susan Collins, for her part, saying that all of those years that she has spent in D.C.”
Former Senator Joe Manchin discusses his endorsement of Susan Collins.
“All right, Wolf, let's continue this conversation.”
Manchin emphasizes the importance of character and integrity in politics.
“And I think when you lose Susan Collins, you lose really the heart of the Senate, the soul of the Senate.”
Manchin addresses economic challenges and their political implications.
“So you're clearly putting your weight behind candidates like Susan Collins because of the person she is.”
Manchin shares his thoughts on the need for bipartisan leadership.
“The debt and the interest on the debt and the weight of the debt will be absolutely disabling for us to be who we want to be as a country.”
Discussion on how AI could impact election integrity and misinformation.
“Politico is reporting that OpenAI is running an election war room in preparation for potential disruptions or interference operating until the last ballot is counted.”
Explore the challenges posed by AI-generated misinformation in elections.
“What is it that you're most concerned about?”
Insights into the Kansas Senate race and the strategies of Democratic candidates.
“All right, Pamela, coming up, Democrats are looking to flip the Kansas Senate seat for the first time in nearly 100 years.”
Discussion on public perception of the Democratic Party in Kansas and strategies to improve it.
“We know it's still a challenge, but we have a lot of hope and we feel strongly that the winds are in our back.”
Understanding how tariffs and trade disputes are impacting farmers' political alignments.
“But even the farming community that's been hit by tariffs and trade disputes, higher diesel fertilizer prices, so forth because of the war in Iran, they have pretty much remained Republican dominant.”
Analyzing the implications of the recent election results in Israel.
“And happening now political limbo in Israel.”
Focus on the competitive Ohio Senate race and the strategies of candidates.
“Orrin Lieberman reporting from Jerusalem for us.”
Discussion on the upcoming Ohio elections and the key issues at stake.
“Ohio is shaping up as a key battleground just ahead of tomorrow's elections, and in the final hours of campaigning, the vice president, J.D.”
Discussion on Ohio's voter ID rules and the Democratic Party's strategies.
“She has been everywhere across Ohio, and she is going to do what it takes to be a fighter for the people and for lowering costs in our state.”
Preview of the upcoming news stories including a deadly plane crash.
“All new Pamela right at the top of the hour.”
Analyzing the impact of Haley Stevens' endorsement of Mike Rogers.
“Just one day shy of an October surprise, Michigan Democratic Congresswoman Haley Stevens announced Sunday that she is flipping her endorsement and backing Republican Senate candidate Mike Rogers.”
Discussion on what Stevens' choice means for Michigan Democrats and the party's future.
“President Trump said in an interview taped on Friday that he will become Mr.”
Discussion on the DOJ appeal regarding Alaska's election certification.
“Vance speaking in Rome, New York, the final day before Election Day tomorrow.”
Ellie Honig discusses the likelihood of success for DOJ appeals in election-related cases.
“And joining us now, CNN senior legal analyst, Ellie Honig.”
Hadass Gold explores how AI chatbots influence voter opinions and behaviors.
“First in the Situation Room, a complex web of election threats.”
Details on the tragic private jet crash and ongoing investigations.
“Happening today, NTSB investigators arrive on the scene of Sunday's private jet crash near Palm Beach, Florida.”
Learn about the ongoing investigation into the plane crash involving a young pilot.
“The still image shows the plane and the tail of that plane, the horizontal stabilizer, completely gone, which means that this plane would have been totally uncontrollable.”
Discover the latest developments in the Trump administration's legal battle regarding election ballots in California.
“All right, there's more breaking news we're following.”
Examine claims of non-citizen voting and the implications for California's election integrity.
“But to be clear, there has been no evidence, despite claims again and again throughout this administration, Wolf, from the president about widespread non-citizen voting and about election rigging.”
Listen to insights from Democratic Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed on his campaign and policies.
“What would Abdul's success mean for the future of the Democratic Party?”
Explore the reactions to Congresswoman Haley Stevens endorsing a Republican candidate.
“Joining us now, Republican Congresswoman Nancy Mace of South Carolina.”
Hear Republican Congresswoman Nancy Mace's take on the current chaos in both political parties.
“Would you welcome her to the Republican Party?”
Get insights into the polling data and its implications for South Carolina's Senate race.
“Another key Senate race is in your home state of South Carolina with Republican incumbent Darlene Graham facing Democratic challenger Annie Andrews.”
Discuss the economic issues Americans are facing and how election outcomes could affect them.
“She has been out there on the trans issue and been against women in sports and locker rooms and all those issues that we care about as American women and girls.”

Get the gist, explore an idea or ask about something said.
On The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer and Pamela Brown, what are the key points of this episode?
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1:14Pamela Brown: Welcome to our viewers here in the United States and around the world. I'm Wolf Blitzer with Pamela Brown, and you're in the Situation Room. It's the final day, the last chance for candidates to make their pitches to voters, control of the US Congress on the line as Democrats look to flip critical battleground states and that path goes right through the Senate race in Michigan and the political earthquake that is not rocking that state. My name is Haley Stevens I'm a proud Democrat and I am endorsing Mike Rogers for the United States Senate. Abdul made very clear that I was not welcome in his campaign, that he didn't need me there, that he didn't want me there.
2:00And at some point, you got to look at who's standing for country.
2:07Pamela Brown: That endorsement, clearly, Pamela, stunning the Democratic Party, even Haley Stevens' friends and congressional staffers. But will her choice to buck the party change any voters' minds? That is a question we'll be diving into today. This morning, a series of new polls show possible signs of a blue wave. Democrats are leading in five of the seven Senate battleground states, including in Texas and Michigan. And amid a flurry of tele-rallies, President Trump will head to the reflecting pool to make his closing message. Sources tell CNN he's expected to talk about his D.C. projects, but also make a broader closing argument about the midterms.
2:46The Situation Room is in nine states this morning, covering the final day before the midterms, tracking critical key races in battleground states from Michigan and Georgia to Maine and Kansas. And our correspondents are fanned out across the country, bringing you the key issues, talking to voters, and following the candidate's final closing messages. Wolf.
3:05Pamela Brown: All right, let's begin this hour with that major shakeup in Michigan. Michigan Democratic Congresswoman Haley Stevens pulling her support from Democratic Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed. Stevens was pressed by CNN's Anderson Cooper about her decision last night. Listen. Back in August, you posted on social media, quote, Mike Rogers will be another rubber stamp for Donald Trump's dangerous agenda. We can't afford to give MAGA another Senate seat in November. How do you, why is it okay now, why can you afford now to give MAGA another Senate seat in November? Well, why is it okay to have the Democratic Party and a top nominee, you know, injecting, you know, this type of, or injecting, rather, this type of anger and lack of kindness?
3:53That's all. I'm one Democrat. Okay, so it's the anger and lack of kindness. And I just am telling people how I'm voting. And there's others who feel the same way. So the anger and lack of kindness. Finance. I'm sorry. I don't want to talk over you. The anger and lack of kindness. No, no, that's okay. No, no. It sounds like you're upset with me too, Anderson. No, I'm not. I'm just you're not really answering any of my questions. So it's somewhat frustrating. You're saying the anger and lack of kindness. Again, that seems to point to you being disinvited to this event. Is that to you? Is that his anger and lack of kindness?
4:26Anderson, I was just trying to help this campaign and stand up for people who feel hurt. I am not the only one in this position. I'm just casting my vote. The people in the Congress know this as well. We cast votes all the time. I announced it today. That's fine. I was in a Sunday church service. And you know what? I am very optimistic going forward. So here's what Democratic Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed had to say about the ordeal. This race was never about me. It was never even about Mike Rogers. It's certainly not about Haley Stevens. This race is about the people in the state of Michigan, the people that I've gotten to get to know in their churches and synagogues, in their basements, in their living rooms, talking about what they need and deserve.
5:15Mike Rogers is going to be a vote for Donald Trump. And if you don't believe me, just ask Donald Trump. He came here last Sunday and said that he is on the ballot. In fact, he is on the ballot in the form of Mike Rogers. And so I'm asking folks to say, what are your priorities? If there are issues that we disagree on that are more important to you than protecting democracy, protecting the right to choose, protecting the right to a union, protecting health care, then so be it.
5:37Pamela Brown: All right, let's go live right now to CNN correspondent Brian Todd, who's in Ypsilanti, Michigan for us. Brian, how is this shakeup sitting with voters where you are there in Michigan? Well, it's been a very dramatic 24 hours, Wolf, and we're going to get a sampling of how the voters feel in just a second. But first, I want to kind of set the scene for you here in Ypsilanti, Michigan. We're on the campus of Eastern Michigan University. Take a look at this line. This line has only been growing for the last hour or so since we've been here. And it's a long line to get into this Get Out the Vote event with Abdul El-Sayed, with Senators Elizabeth Warren and Alyssa Slotkin.
6:12And the hip-hop star comment is going to be appearing here as well. But look at this line winding down all the way over here. These people are a little bit closer to getting in for this 1030 a.m. event. I want to talk to one young voter. Her first vote, 19 years old, Haja Torre. Hi, Haja. How are you? Let's talk first about the Haley Stevens endorsement of Mike Rogers. You're an Abdul El-Sayed supporter. Did it change your mind? How did it affect you? It didn't affect me. It did not. No. Why not? Because I've been an Abdul supporter since I learned that he was running. I voted based on progressive Democrat and a Democrat, and I've learned the difference between the two and how Democrat is saying same old thing, same old thing, and what have we have with the same old thing, same old thing, the same thing, not progressive at all.
7:02And then with progressive, it's half of the same things, which were not bad. However, things like making sure that our tax dollars goes to actually health care, making sure that we have health care here making sure that you know we aren't like entertaining rhetoric that has nothing to do with what American people are struggling with Alright well thank you very much for talking to us good luck with your vote your first vote tomorrow are you excited? Oh I already voted. Oh you did okay alright but you're here just to see him alright well thanks very much Haja good luck and we're closer to getting these people in the door here guys so that's kind of the way it stands here These are obviously a lot of Abdul Al-Sayed supporters.
7:44How this plays out in the vote tomorrow, we're going to be at a polling station tomorrow in the Detroit area. We're going to ask a cross-section of voters how that Haley Stevens endorsement of Mike Rogers has been playing out. What we can tell you is CNN's own reporting, and this comes from Abdul Al-Sayed's camp, his fundraising numbers just since the Haley Stevens announcement yesterday, I believe the number, he has raised more than about$2 million just since that announcement. So a big spike in his fundraising. And again, we'll see how that actually translates in the ballot box. We will see Brian Todd busy day ahead of us, that's for sure.
8:22All right, now to Battleground Georgia, where the fight for governor is shaping up to be a tight race. The latest poll shows a virtual dead heat between the Democrat, former Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms, and the Republican nominee, billionaire businessman Rick Jackson. Democrats are also battling to hang on to the state's crucial Senate seat. Polls there show incumbent Democrat John Ossoff with an eight-point lead over Republican Mike Collins.
8:47Pamela Brown: Let's go live right now to see a senior national correspondent, Ryan Young, who's on the scene for us in Atlanta. Ryan, you were at a Mike Collins event where he made a final appeal to voters. What was his bottom line message? Yeah, Wolfie was talking to the media about the fact that he was going to be able to push for the policies that would help Donald Trump in office here. I can tell you though, the energy is quite different than what I'm hearing from Michigan. And just in terms of on the ground, Mike Collins was stressing the fact that he's been to over 2000 different locations over this campaign to make sure that people heard his voice.
9:23But I will tell you, when you look at the poll numbers right now, it looks like John Osloff has a comfortable lead at 48 % and our polling showing that Mike Collins is polling at about 40 percent. But that hasn't stopped him from saying, look, a lot of voters vote, especially Republican voters vote on Tuesday. He believes this final push is important for him and the voters all up and down the state to know that he's still fighting to make sure that the policies of Donald Trump get moved forward in Congress. Take a listen to Mike Collins giving that final pitch. MIKE COLLINS, My ending pitch is, look at who we are, look at what we've done for the state of Georgia.
9:57I've delivered for this state. John Ossoff never has. He hasn't done anything. We are at a crossroads in this country. This is a fight for the soul of this country. And John Ossoff is the leader of that Democrat Socialist American movement. And we've got to stop this here. Put somebody that will actually represent this state, not use it as a platform for another position.
10:21Well, something I want to stress here, over 2.7 million people in the state of Georgia have already cast their vote. You can feel the energy in the state. Of course, Kamala Harris was here in town pitching for John Ossoff just last week. You felt the energy in the crowd. And of course, there's that also final pitch for the governor's race where you have Keisha Lance Bottoms facing Rick Jackson. And there's been a lot of conversation about all this energy surging to the polls to maybe drag one of these other candidates across the finish line. So there'll be something interesting to see. And when it comes to Rick Jackson, it's been interesting to watch how he He hasn't aligned himself all the way with the current governor here, Governor Kemp, who's really popular.
10:58Yes, he's running ads, but we haven't seen them in campaign events across the state. So as this wraps up, let's see what they'll finally do in terms of that final push in the last few days. Wolf.
11:09Pamela Brown: All right, Ryan Young in Atlanta. Thank you very, very much. Pamela. All right, still ahead here in the Situation Room, artificial intelligence is already fueling election disinformation. Now, one of the world's biggest tech giants is launching a counteroffensive to curb those efforts. And polls in the Pine Tree State show signs that a Senate seat could flip Maine. Our Jason Carroll is on the ground for us there. Well, Wolf, we've seen record turnout here in the state of Maine. It shows you just how much interest there is in this Senate race. We're going to talk about the messaging right after this.
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12:53Pamela Brown: America's Choice 2026. Election Day is tomorrow and Democrats are hoping to ride a blue wave to win control of the House and possibly, possibly even the US Senate. One of the tightest Senate races is in Maine right now where incumbent Susan Collins is facing Democrat Troy Jackson. Democrats almost certainly need to defeat Collins to capture a majority of the U.S. Senate. The New York Times-Siena University poll shows Jackson holding a lead of six percentage points. Collins is seeking her sixth term. CNN national correspondent Jason Carroll is joining us now from Bangor in Maine. Jason, what's the mood where you are there on the eve of this election day?
13:38Well, Wolf, it's very clear from the voters that we've spoken to here on the ground that there is a great deal of interest in this Senate race. Also clear that the messaging from both of these candidates is really getting across to voters. You take Troy Jackson, for example, who has been wanting to make this campaign, this race, all about change, a change to get Susan Collins out of Washington to put him into Washington. He says that he can be the person who can put a check on Donald Trump, also wanting this to be a campaign about affordability, to make working class voters here to be able to afford more things in the state here of Maine.
14:17Susan Collins, for her part, saying that all of those years that she has spent in D.C. has been a benefit for the people of Maine, that she's brought back over the years billions of dollars of federal funding for folks here in Maine, and that she's got the experience to do even more for voters here. The voters that we spoke to again here on the ground, random sampling of people despite what the polls are showing, basically evenly split between Jackson and Collins. Why a vote for Troy Jackson? Have you been following your news? That's why. I don't want to say more, but he's very honest. He's a hardcore Mainer.
15:00He's courageous. He has experience and he's like a real human.
15:04Pamela Brown: Yes, I think Susan Collins is going to win because they say every year she's going to, every six years she's going to lose and she doesn't. What makes you think Collins is going to take it this year? Troy Jackson, it seems like there's a lot of negativities on him. And Wolfie, you know about that recent polling showing that Collins is trailing slightly behind Jackson. A lot of folks here on the ground aren't pretty much stocks in the polls. They remember what happened back in 2020 when Collins was again trailing in the polls and Wolf, she pulled it out by some nine percentage points. Wolf. All right, Jason Carroll on the scene for us.
15:45Pamela Brown: Thank you very, very much. Pamela. All right, Wolf, let's continue this conversation. Joining us now is former Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia. He spent his final months in office as an independent after serving as a Democrat for decades. He is also the author of Dead Sinner and Defense of Common Sense. Thank you so much for being here with us. You have been campaigning. Thank you for having me, Pamela. Yeah, absolutely. You've been out there very busy campaigning for Senator Susan Collins. Critics and Democrats say a vote for her is a vote for Trump. They point to her voting record. Why are you supporting her over the Democrat in this race, Troy Jackson?
16:21It's so wrong, first of all, the analogy. But people say everything if they don't know people. The bottom line is if you want one person that can put a check on Trump, it's going to be Susan Collins. She already has. She's moving the needle on tariffs that have been harmful. And what President Trump has done has been harmful to the economy and people are paying higher prices. She's out there fighting. She's on the inside. And I think she can get more Republicans to start having the courage to speak out like she does. I've been with her for a long time, 14 years. We've done over 75 bipartisan bills together.
16:52She is courageous. She treats everyone the same. She's worked with me and her. We worked with three different presidents. She's worked with five. She treated everyone the same, Obama, President Obama, President Trump, and President Biden. They had to earn her respect, and she would go toe-to-toe with them. And she's well-prepared. She's just all Mainer. That's all I can say. I mean, I've seen a lot of people, but I was up and walking the streets with her. People say, hey, Susan. It's not, hey, Senator Collins. It's, hey, Susan. She's one of them. She's a doer. She truly is a doer. And I think when you lose Susan Collins, you lose really the heart of the Senate, the soul of the Senate.
17:29She knows how it works and how it's supposed to work. It's not working now. And she's fighting like heck to fix it. So you also support Republican Mike Rogers in Michigan. Are you surprised by the amount of anger of the Democratic congressman, Kaylee Stevens, is facing from her own party for endorsing Rogers in this Senate race? I know the fever pitch of everybody right now going into the last day especially. Mike Rogers is a friend and I said you know there's relationships we have relationships and friendships within Congress Senate and in the House and why can't you just say I'm for my friend I know Mike I've worked with Mike before he's intelligent he's smart he's a good person that's all I've said okay I don't I don't go out and talk about other people or the opposition I don't know those people they're saying all these things I just know Mike solid I know Susan solid I know Roy Cooper solid I know Mark Warner solid I know all on both sides and you want good people we're not getting the best of the the best of the best as far as in these challenge races it's not basically integrity is not even part of it character is not considered anymore and they're just picking anybody they think can win well that's not how you get things done and you don't get things done from the extremes I think Susan Collins his opponent brought in extreme friends of mine but they're more left, very progressive, towards the left end, Bernie.
18:52And I understand that that's where he's comfortable. That's where he'll lead from or that's where he'll govern from. That's not who Maine is. Maine is like West Virginia. They're solid. They're just solid, good, hardworking people that just want a chance to take care of themselves and their family. And people are upset. So you're clearly putting your weight behind candidates like Susan Collins because of the person she is. You've served with her. You know her. She can make things happen. She can make things happen, in your view. So the practical effect in these races, though, is that they could ultimately decide which party controls the Senate.
19:27Do you think that should factor in when deciding which candidate to back? People are so concerned about the power of politics, and that's what happens. The two parties will do anything to get power. Majority is power. It's only power for the leadership. As a U.S. senator for 14 and a half years, it's gone back and forth. I was in the minority. I was in the majority. It doesn't change the effect of what I can do. Because of the filibuster, every minority, if you're in the minority and the Democrats will take over or vice versa, you can be all you want to be. They need your voice. They need your vote.
20:00They're going to work with you and talk with you. You have input. And this is all this thing about power. And what happens? It's the independence that will make the difference. There's not one race right now, whether it be in Maine or whether it be in Georgia or be in North Carolina, that won't be decided by independent voters. It won't be registered Democrats and registered Republicans winning these elections. It'll be independents that think they've got a better chance of changing things if they vote for this candidate or that candidate. And right now, I heard it put best, and I don't know how to say this, but people are coming up to me and they say, you know, President Trump keeps telling me it's going to get better and better and better.
20:34If it's going to get better and prices are going to get lower, how come it didn't happen before? If things are going to be over in one day or two weeks or two months, why didn't it happen before? And one person said, and I couldn't even believe it, she said, the best I can explain to you is when someone's peeing on your leg and trying to convince you that it's raining, maybe you shouldn't really believe that. Maybe it's not going to happen that way. And just to bring it in, that's true. If someone's doing that and they're trying to make you something's going to be different, it's just not going to happen.
21:03So then if Republicans don't lose control of Congress, I mean, we've seen how much they've fallen in line with Donald Trump. It really is the party of Trump. Do you think that will change? Maybe this will give them the courage they need. Because right now, the last six months, I have not seen in a deep red state, even in West Virginia, candidates that were proudly starting out their campaign standing beside Trump. Trump's behind me. I'm behind President Trump. Fine. They knew they were playing towards his strength. The last six months, I haven't seen one ad with his name mentioned or a picture of him with the candidate.
21:35That tells you everything. It tells you how strong the winds are and the push against this administration. The cost of everything, Pamela, is out of reach. People cannot. I mean, you're paying$5 and$6 for gas and diesel. And in this rural state like West Virginia and Maine, you're driving. That's killing people. So, you know, and then the price of food and energy, everything's going up. And then we have a war that's not going to look like it's going to end anytime soon. And if it does end, we're leaving Iran, Hamas, and the Houthis in a stronger place than they were before. Unless we're able to have the Gulf states basically get in there and do their job, clean up their neighborhood.
22:13It's their neighborhood. Let's help clean it up. But they have to do something, too. So all this is happening, and we don't see that change. No one's talking about the debt. We're at$40 trillion going to$42 trillion. The debt and the interest on the debt and the weight of the debt will be absolutely disabling for us to be who we want to be as a country. And everyone's afraid to talk about that because they're afraid, well, we're going to have to cut back services. You don't have to. You have to put guardrails on so it's not abuse. You have to do things and everyone pays their fair share. From the lowest end to that, just something.
22:46You have to participate in this great country of ours to have all the services and all the things that you have available to you. Where is your mentality about potentially running for president? You mean people running for president? Oh, no, I'm too old. But I'm younger than everybody else is up there. All right. But still, yeah, there's a good, I'm out recruiting. I'm looking for the best of the best of the best. And I am not looking for extremes. The extreme right and extreme left is not going to bring this country together. And you can't have a president speaking only of one side. One side was never designed to run the country.
23:19It took both of us. And that's what I'm looking for. All right. Former Senator Joe Manchin, thank you so much. Nice to have you on the show. Wolf.
23:26Pamela Brown: All right, Pamela, coming up inside the new war on election, disinformation and the tech powerhouse stepping up to police it.
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24:12well election day now just hours away and some ai companies are tracking potential misuse of their tools in the midterms. Politico is reporting that OpenAI is running an election war room in preparation for potential disruptions or interference operating until the last ballot is counted. Hundreds of employees will monitor several key areas for potential bad actors, real time events, and foreign interference. So let's talk more about this and the potential weaponization of AI with CNN contributor and tech journalist Jacob Warb. So Jacob, first of all, help us better understand how AI could be used to cause issues, potentially wreak havoc during the election?
24:53Well, Pema, there's the obvious stuff, right? There's the fact that, you know, you can use any one of a dozen models to create an incredibly convincing image of all sorts of things. And that means that these companies are in the position of really having to kind of, you know, mediate reality for millions of users around the world and across the country. Then you've got, you know, things like the fact that this is going to be for a lot of people, how they find out about election results or the positions of candidates. And so there's also the potential for the models themselves to get things wrong.
25:26A recent study from the Brennan Center found that of the six major models, only ChatGPT, OpenAI's product, has improved since last year in that place. So, you know, but whether it's misinformation that's purposely being pushed on us by misusers of the product or the product itself hallucinating mistakes, it is our reliance on these systems that could certainly get us into trouble. Explain how this could work with a war room like this. How could misinformation get flagged before going viral? Well, you know, I think the important context here, right, is that we don't really have the funding set up for anything at a government level that should, in theory, be doing this, The fiscal year 2027 budget proposed by DHS would literally cut CISA, which is supposed to be the agency doing this kind of work, to zero.
26:18So it's in that context that we should look at something like OpenAI's stated plan to put hundreds of people in a war room, which is to be very clear, and you made this point as you were introducing this, they're policing their own product. They're not looking broadly at the misuse of AI in general. They are looking at the misuse of their own product and the places in which their product is misbehaving. Now, they've made some really smart design choices. If you ask right now, ChatGPT, for an image of someone stealing ballots out of a mailbox, they have a design decision in there that switches that image to a cartoon.
26:53It won't give you a news photo style quality thing of it. Of course, people have then looked at then asking again or playing around with it and finding that they can get there. But the intention of the product is not to do that. So that's a good thing. But, you know, I think it's important to remember right back in the day, we used to think of social media companies as the sort of neutral referee of this kind of stuff. And their war rooms were considered a place for sort of cutting edge, you know, fighting of misinformation and making sure that everybody has correct information. These companies, it's important to point out, are both, you know, setting up these war rooms, but they're also funding PACs.
27:30They're funding super PACs and trying to get certain candidates elected. And they also, you know, I would just point out they are at the helm of an industry that is absolutely underwater in terms of its political fortunes. If this if AI were a political candidate, it would be it's literally a 37 percent, 37 points unfavorability. You know, 60 percent of Americans don't like this industry. And so it's a very weird moment in which to be watching an AI company refereeing the misuse of its own stuff. What is the biggest threat facing the midterms outside of, you know, outside influence, deep fakes?
28:03What is it that you're most concerned about? Well, we've certainly seen, right, that this is the easiest possible election in which anyone can move a meme, right? You want to move bad information through the media ecosystem, you can do it. It is not hard to create incredibly convincing stuff. It also means that once upon a time, the natural limit on, let's say, a North Korea, a Russia, an Iran trying to move sentiment in the United States across social media, you had to hire people who were not only language fluent but also culturally fluent in how Americans communicate online. That's not true anymore.
28:40You don't even have to speak the language in order to put out convincing writing that looks like this stuff. And studies have shown that election-related misinformation created by AI is in many cases more convincing than misinformation written by humans. And so it's a tough moment. These tools are really effective for moving misinformation. So I worry about that. But I would say I'm especially interested in and concerned about the efforts of these companies to try to make their own product more palatable to voters of the nearly 100 AI ads that we saw these companies backing, OpenAI and Anthropic and their super PACs running, you know, those ads didn't even mention data centers because they know what a terribly unpopular thing that is.
29:24And so these are very conflicted players, I would say, in the political landscape. And it's important for me to be watching not only what they do to referee themselves, but also who they want to win, which is an important thing to consider. All right. Jacob Ward, thank you. Wolf?
29:38Pamela Brown: All right, Pamela, coming up, Democrats are looking to flip the Kansas Senate seat for the first time in nearly 100 years. I'll speak to the Kansas Democratic Party chair about the momentum headed into Election Day. That's next.
30:01All right, as we head into Election Day, we're keeping a close eye on several key Senate races, including Kansas. where incumbent Republican Senator Roger Marshall is facing Democratic challenger Adam Hamilton. The Situation Room has been inviting Democratic and Republican State Party chairs to come into the Situation Room and talk about the election. With us now is Kansas Democratic Party Chair Gina Repass. Good to see you. So Kansas last elected a Democratic senator back in 1932. Polling right now shows Democrat Adam Hamilton leading Republican Senator Roger Marshall. How confident are you that Hamilton can pull off a win here?
30:40Well, good morning and thank you for having me. Before I answer the question, let me thank all of our veterans and our active duty members of the military. Thank you for your service. And to answer the question, I'm going to say this. We are not going to lean towards confident, but we're going to lean into hopeful. We know it's still a challenge, but we have a lot of hope and we feel strongly that the winds are in our back. So one of the closing issues or messages from Roger Marshall has been about this back and forth over his time practicing as an OBGYN. Hamilton has claimed that Marshall's practice sued more than 700 patients over unpaid medical bills after a New York Times investigation found that he did exactly that and charged an annual percent, an annual interest rate as well.
31:24CNN's Daniel Dale found that no law required Marshall to file those suits. The New York Times reports that Marshall wanted to release an ad disputing those attacks, and he went around his campaign. This is this ad that just came out. When I practiced as a small-town OB doc, often serving as the only OB in the middle of 40 ,000 people, my wife and I decided to take care of everyone regardless of their ability to pay. We wrote off hundreds of bills monthly, and one of every five patients received free care. Now, to ensure that 40 ,000 Kansans would still have access to care, we did have to keep the lights on.
32:01So we occasionally handed some accounts over to collection agency, just like nearly every private medical practice does. He goes on to say that Hamilton is outright lying about him ever having someone arrested over their unpaid bills and that Kansas law doesn't allow it. His campaign said in a statement to The New York Times, if the best that our haters have is a video that the campaign hasn't posted or isn't running anywhere as an ad and that only Twitter is talking about goes to show you that Senator Marshall is on track for a great night on November 3rd. What do you think? Could this help or hurt Hamilton in your view?
32:35Well, I think at this point, Kansans know exactly who Roger Marshall is. Ten days after winning his U.S. Senate seat, he sold his house in Great Bend and bought a million plus dollar house in Florida. So I think at this point, it's pretty baked in. And let me be very clear. My daughter is a resident in Texas right now. Roger Marshall did not have to send anyone to collections. He certainly didn't have to ask for the collections agencies to send those people to court, issue bench warrants. There's so many things that he could have done, including writing those off. So there's nothing Adam Hamilton has put out that isn't fact-based.
33:08And Roger Marshall has changed the story about three or four times about what he should and shouldn't do. At this point, Kansans know that Roger the Dodger doesn't live here, has not represented their voices and has done some pretty shady things, including having a woman who is eight months pregnant arrested in front of her two-year-old daughter. That's not in dispute. So I want to talk about the Democrats in Kansas. That is your party. A recent CNN poll found that in Kansas, only about one-third hold a positive view of the Democratic Party. Why do you think that is? And what is your party doing to win over those voters and fix that?
33:45I think that is an extremely fair assessment. I think people in general are just sick of politics. We want to get back to a place of civility. And when you are hearing people just name calling and the negative ads and you don't see that your life is getting better, you're going to have a negative view of everyone. I think our negative ratings are similar to Republicans. They're better than Donald Trump. People need to see results. They need to know that a political organization or a politician or a servant is doing exactly that, serving people. And until we get this country to a place where people feel like they're on equal footing and have a fair shot, those negative ratings are going to be there.
34:20And I understand where that comes from. But even the farming community that's been hit by tariffs and trade disputes, higher diesel fertilizer prices, so forth because of the war in Iran, they have pretty much remained Republican dominant. Why do you think that is? Well, let me be very clear. Farmers are breaking towards Democrats and we had them in the 80s. We were always the party of farmers, just like we've been the party of labor. But in the 90s and 2000s, we lost them. And I think in some ways we lost our way. But I can tell you in Kansas, those tariffs wreaked havoc on these farmers. We know that here you can't just pour water on our heads and tell us it's raining.
35:00They know what the results are. So Democrats are working really hard. I myself, we have gone into every rural community we can. We have talked to farmers and ranchers. And let me be very clear, we didn't sell a soybean out of Kansas in almost a year because of those tariffs. And then the Argentinian beef, people can't even buy hamburger anymore. So I think that what people are looking for results in Kansas Democrats and Democrats writ large need to keep those conversations going. And we will have the farmers back and we're never going to lose them again. All right, Gina Repas, thank you very much.
35:29Wolf? Thank you and God bless our troops.
35:32Pamela Brown: And happening now political limbo in Israel. Weeks, possibly months, just ahead after final results there show no clear winner in Tuesday's election. Neither of the two main blocks reached the required 61-seat majority to form a government in the 120-seat parliament or Knesset. Let's go live right now to CNN Jerusalem Bureau Chief Oren Lieberman. Oren, what are the next steps? Wolf, we have the final results of Israel's election, and now we just have to figure out what it is that they mean. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu lacks a clear outright majority for him to remain prime minister. In Israel's 120 seat Knesset, you need 61 seats.
36:15In the outgoing Knesset, he had 68, a clear and strong majority. Now he's down to only 53 parties that clearly back him with loyalty to remain prime minister, And that is his challenge. Is there a way for him to get to 61? And it's not clear that there is. Meanwhile, the main rival party, that of Gadi Isenot, former military chief of staff, has 67 seats backing him. Now that is a clear majority, but in Israeli politics, it's never quite that simple. And that's because that 19 of those seats, a critical block of those, come from Arab parties that saw record turnout and now have record representation.
36:53They've signaled quite openly and clearly that they're willing to support him, especially if it leads to the ouster of Netanyahu. But Eisenkot's bloc, his coalition of Jewish parties, is far more ideologically diverse than Netanyahu's. Eisenkot's group consists of centrist parties, left-wing parties, right-wing parties, and he has to make that work, and for all of them to be willing to support a prime minister and a government that relies on the Arab parties. And that is where Eisenkot will have to show some political savvy to make that happen. So, where do we go from here? On Wednesday, Israel's President Isaac Herzog will certify the results of the election, and then he'll start meeting with all of the different party leaders and party representatives to see who has the most backing to be prime minister, and that's when we get into an even more difficult part here, and that's the actual forming of a government.
37:41And that, for Eisenkot, if it's his first chance doing this, if he gets the opportunity, will be a very difficult task, and he'll have several weeks to prove or to show if he's able to do that. Wolf. All right.
37:53Pamela Brown: Orrin Lieberman reporting from Jerusalem for us. Thank you very, very much. Coming up, it's one of the tightest Senate races in the country right now, and a seat Democrats are desperate to flip. Can they actually pull off an upset in Ohio? We're asking the state's Democratic Party chair. That's next.
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39:03Pamela Brown: Ohio is shaping up as a key battleground just ahead of tomorrow's elections, and in the final hours of campaigning, the vice president, J.D. Vance, is heading back to his home state. He'll hold a rally with Republican Senate candidate John Husted and gubernatorial nominee Vivek Ramaswamy. It's Vance's third trip to Ohio in recent weeks. The Situation Room is inviting Democratic and Republican state party chairs as we count down to the midterm elections. We're joined now by Kathleen Clyde, Ohio's Democratic Party chair. Kathleen, thanks so much for joining us. I want to start with what's going on in the Ohio Senate race.
39:41Pamela Brown: CNN's latest This poll of polls has Democrat and former Senator Sherrod Brown leading Republican John Husted 50 percent to 45 percent. It's obviously a tight contest and Republicans are clearly concerned enough to make Ohio a major focus in these final hours. But worth noting, Donald Trump carried Ohio by 11 points back in 2024. For Brown to win, he'll likely need to win back at least some of those Trump voters. How does he do that? What is his message to these voters? Well, it's nice to be with you today. Thanks for having me on. And Sherrod Brown is laser focused on lowering costs for families in the state of Ohio.
40:30The cost of living crisis, whether it be the tariffs that have been devastating for families in Ohio and small businesses, This war with Iran, which has raised gas prices, the price of diesel, fertilizer for Ohio farmers. Sherrod Brown is standing up to the billionaires and the special interests. He has been to all parts of our state, bringing people together from all political backgrounds behind his campaign to lower costs for working families in Ohio.
41:04Pamela Brown: Democrats haven't won the Ohio's governor's race. the Ohio governor's race in some 20 years. What does Amy Acton need to do now to overcome that history and win? Look, we have a very competitive environment in Ohio. I would say this is the most competitive state in the country. And our governor's race, our Senate race, Dr. Amy Acton is an incredible candidate. You know, she comes from a tough background. She knows what it's like to struggle to have food on the table and to put herself through college and medical school and become a public servant working for both Republican and Democratic governors.
41:48her campaign is again laser focused on lowering costs on bringing you know bringing costs down for working families in our state getting rid of the corruption that we've really seen take hold of our state house in columbus and work to get our state turned back around she's a great candidate She has been everywhere across Ohio, and she is going to do what it takes to be a fighter for the people and for lowering costs in our state.
42:25Pamela Brown: Ohio voters, as you know, will decide tomorrow whether to add voter ID rules to the state constitution. Photo ID is already required for in-person voting, but what's known as issue three could give lawmakers more control over ID rules for mail-in ballots. Why are Democrats opposed to issue three? And why is gubernatorial candidate Amy Acton breaking from the party on this sensitive issue? Well, look, as you said, photo ID is already in the law in Ohio. And our Democratic Party is working hard to stand up for voters and voting rights and to make sure that every eligible Ohioan has a chance to make their voice heard in this critical election.
43:14This election is about so much. The Ohio families are struggling. They're struggling with high costs from everything from groceries to their gas to their health care. And that's why our candidates from Sherrod Brown to Amy Acton are focused on lowering costs for families in our state, rooting out the corruption that's taken hold in Washington and in our statehouse and getting our country and our state turned back around. That's what our Democratic candidates are focused on up and down the ballot. And that's what's at issue in this critically important midterm election.
43:53Pamela Brown: Kathleen, Clyde, thanks so much for joining us. Thanks for having me. Good to be with you. Thank you and here's what's coming up. All new Pamela right at the top of the hour. That's right. A deadly plane crash in Palm Beach County, Florida. The terrifying final words from the cockpit just moments before impact. It is truly haunting to listen to it. Plus ballot ruling a federal judge has blocked the Justice Department's attempt to delay a state's vote certification. That's all new next hour.
44:44Pamela Brown: Welcome to our viewers here in the United States and around the world. I'm Wolf Blitzer with Pamela Brown, and you're in the Situation Room. We begin this hour with the political earthquake in Michigan and the aftershocks felt nationwide. Just one day shy of an October surprise, Michigan Democratic Congresswoman Haley Stevens announced Sunday that she is flipping her endorsement and backing Republican Senate candidate Mike Rogers. Stevens appeared at the Detroit church with Rogers after she reversed her support for his opponent and her fellow Democrat, Abdul El-Sayed. CNN's Anderson Cooper pressed the congresswoman to explain her 180 here.
45:25Why can you afford now to give MAGA another Senate seat in November? Well, why is it okay to have the Democratic Party and a top nominee, you know, injecting this type of, or injecting rather, this type of anger and lack of kindness? That's all. I'm one Democrat. Okay, so it's the anger and lack of kindness. how I'm voting and there's others who feel the same way. So the anger and lack of kindness. I'm sorry, I don't want to talk over you. The anger and lack of kindness. No, no, it sounds like you're upset with me too, Anderson. No, I'm not. I'm just, you're not really answering any of my questions.
45:59So it's somewhat frustrating. So here's how Abdul El-Sayed responded to losing Stevens endorsement. This race was never about me. It was never even about Mike Rogers. It's certainly not about Haley Stevens. This race is about the people in the state of Michigan, the people that I've gotten to get to know in their churches and synagogues, in their basements, in their living rooms, talking about what they need and deserve.
46:26Pamela Brown: All right, let's talk about this with Pete Seat. He was spokesman in the George W. Bush White House. He's now vice president at the BOS Public Affairs Group. Also with us, Democratic strategist and CNN political commentator Maria Cardona. Maria, were you shocked by Stevens' decision? And what message is this sending to Michigan Democrats only days before the election? I absolutely was shocked, Wolf, as was every Democrat, not just in Michigan, I think, just across the country, because number one, no one was expecting it. Number two, it goes against everything Haley Stephens has said up until now about why she was in this race, why she ran, why she was attacking Mike Rogers for all of those months, and ultimately why she ended up supporting Abdul El-Sayed until yesterday.
47:21And so it's just a question of what was the reason? And I think we saw in that, you know, debacle of an interview that she did with Anderson, and he was asking the right question and she couldn't answer. And look, I do feel badly for her. I am sure she is going through turmoil. She talked about the reason for this was the anger and hate. But then my question to her, if that's true, is, is she now OK with Mike Rogers, who she called a rubber stamp to Donald Trump and all of his horrific policies that have done so much damage to Michiganders? And is she also OK with the fact that Mike Rogers has never condemned Donald Trump when he stands up at rallies and calls Abdul El-Sayed a jihadist and a terrorist?
48:09That's hateful. That is hurtful. And so I think it's hypocritical. And she's just taking it way, way, way too personal.
48:18Pamela Brown: Pete, let me ask you, President Trump said he would he would love to have Haley Stevens in the Republican Party in a race this tight right now. How did Haley Stevens hand a gift to Mike Rogers and the Republicans? Absolutely, she handed a gift to Mike Rogers and the Republicans. It may in the end have a bigger impact on her future in the Democratic Party than it does in the final tally of this election. A lot of people have already cast their ballots. Their decisions have been made. But there could be some Jewish voters out there, black voters out there who are uncertain about Abdul El-Sayed, who now say, hey, Haley Stevens, who I voted for in the Democratic Party, is voting for Mike Rogers.
49:02I can cast that same vote. This could be the permission that they need to make that choice ultimately tomorrow when they head to the polls. But I just have to say that this 48 hours has been more entertaining politically than the last 48 months have been. Just watching the utter meltdown in the Democratic Party over Haley Stevens' decision, the same Democrats who implored Republicans to disavow Donald Trump and to vote for Joe Biden or to vote for Kamala Harris because it was, quote, country over party, are now saying that she has betrayed the party. They have effectively kicked her out of the Michigan Democratic Party.
49:41As she has said, she's voting 99 percent Democrat. This is one person, one vote. She's casting it for Mike Rogers. because of her concerns over the Democratic nominee of her party. And we see how the Democratic Party is responding. And it says more about them than it does about her.
49:58Pamela Brown: Let me follow up with you, Pete. President Trump said in an interview taped on Friday that he will become Mr. Vito if Democrats take control of Congress. Is there political gridlock ahead if there is a blue wave? Yes, I think that there will be political gridlock, particularly on the domestic front. I expect that President Trump is really going to focus more on international affairs and what's happening overseas because there's more latitude and fewer guardrails for a president on foreign affairs. But when it comes to the veto threats, I think it's also a negotiation tactic. He wants the Democrats, if there is in fact that blue wave and they take the House and the Senate, to come to him in the Oval Office and to strike deals.
50:43He's going to want to get something if they get something. And I think if any of this gridlock is overcome, it's going to be as a result of negotiations, not because Donald Trump signs Democratic wishlist items.
50:56Pamela Brown: Would it mean the president is ignoring the will of the voters if he goes ahead and vetoes a lot of Democratic past legislation? I think it would absolutely be that he, Donald Trump, is ignoring the will of the voters, which is what he's been doing for the past two years, Wolf, which is why the Republican Party is in such trouble right now in these midterm elections. And to go back to Michigan again, that's why it's so bizarre that Haley Stevens now is supporting someone who she has connected with Donald Trump. And they're both essentially turning their backs on the people in Michigan. And, you know, Pete's right.
51:37This might dissuade some people, some people in the Jewish community, some people in the black community. But I think at the end of the day, when you peel back all of the vitriol, what stands is the hurt and the pain that Michiganders are going through in all of these communities because Donald Trump and Republicans have completely betrayed them because they have not brought down the cost of groceries, gas and rent, because they have not brought down inflation, because they are spending billions on a war in Iran that no one wanted and no one needed. instead of focusing on bringing down costs for families.
52:14And by the way, when this happened yesterday, Abdul El-Sayed broke records being able to raise$1.3 million. So I think that tells me that he still has a lot of support. And I think at the end of the day, it will still be very hard fought, very close. But I think Abdul El-Sayed will pull it out because he is focusing on the issues that Michiganders really care about.
52:37Pamela Brown: Let me follow up with you, Maria. If Al-Sayed wins as a progressive candidate in Michigan, is there a bigger implication for the future of the Democratic Party? What does that signal to the party? I think it signals that those who got elected, those who won in these midterm elections, are candidates who are fighting for the people, are candidates who are focused on the solutions. And if there is anything that we have heard from the Democratic Party writ large, from Hakeem Jeffries to AOC, is that they are focused on solutions. And so I think what it will indicate is that the Democratic Party has a tremendous opportunity to come together and to focus on what voters across the country and across the board, from one side of the spectrum to the other, including independents, including common sense and disaffected Republicans, that they are sick of what Donald Trump and Republicans have wrought on this country.
53:37And they want leaders that will focus on championing families, not crushing families. And Democrats have a tremendous opportunity to deliver.
53:46Pamela Brown: All right, Maria Cardona and Pete C to both of you. Thank you very, very much. Pamela. All right. Still ahead. Why two federal judges are blocking the DOJ's efforts to influence how states handle tomorrow's election. And then later, like a missile going down. That is how Florida's governor describes this horrifying crash of a private jet on a busy road. You're in the Situation Room, and we'll be right back.
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54:41Pamela Brown: Wayfair, every style, every home. All right, you see Vice President J.D. Vance speaking in Rome, New York, the final day before Election Day tomorrow. He's giving his closing message there. And over in Michigan, there's an event for Abdul El-Sayed. You see Senator Elizabeth Warren there giving her pitch to voters as well. All the candidates and their supporters are out there today on this final sprint to Election Day tomorrow. Wolf. Very busy day. Lots going on, Pamela. Turning now to Alaska's Senate fight. The U.S. Justice Department is appealing a federal judge's decision to toss out its lawsuit attempting to delay certification of that race.
55:23Pamela Brown: The controversy comes from allegations that Alaska Democrats tried to confuse voters by recruiting a Senate candidate with the same name as the Republican incumbent. Here's what President Trump said about yesterday's ruling. Listen. I think it's one of the most meritful things. You have to be kidding. I haven't heard this. I mean, we have, there's a big federal situation. From what I heard, they're going to dismiss it only on the basis that let the federal government take over. But no, that's a very important lawsuit. That was a fraud. That's voter fraud at the highest level. And joining us now, CNN senior legal analyst, Ellie Honig.
56:05Pamela Brown: He's a former state and federal prosecutor. Ellie, does the Justice Department have any chance of success with this appeal? Well, if I think it's virtually certain that the Justice Department will lose again in this case, two reasons. First of all, the U.S. Constitution tells us plainly that if there's no federal law passed by Congress that's on point, then it's up to the states to decide how to run their elections, not the federal executive branch. This Alaska ballot dispute was litigated through the entire state of Alaska up to the Alaska Supreme Court. And second of all, the district court judge who rejected DOJ's argument, said there's a problem with what we call redressability, meaning there's nothing that a court or judge could do here anyway.
56:47Now, DOJ was sort of dodgy about what exactly it wants done. They basically said, we want the ballot set aside so that we can try to determine if people were confused between the two Dan Sullivans. But first of all, voters don't put their names on ballots, so you don't know who cast what vote. And second of all, as the district court judge said, you can't go out and interview people and say, hey, which Dan Sullivan did you really mean. As the district court, I think, correctly held, the best indicator of what Alaska voters wanted is what names they checked on their ballots, which have already been approved by the state of Alaska.
57:19Pamela Brown: Interesting. Ellie, there's another state involved in high profile election lawsuits. The Justice Department suggested it would appeal a rejection of its lawsuit in California, requesting 20 ,000 ballots be set aside and it could all go all the way up to the U.S. Supreme Court. How likely are the justices to take up this case to begin with, and how will they rule if they do? Well, I think DOJ is going to lose again here, Wolf. Either the Supreme Court will reject the case altogether, or if they do take it, I think they'll affirm the lower court ruling against DOJ. Same constitutional principle here.
57:53There's no federal law on point passed by Congress. Therefore, the states, whether it's Alaska or California or anywhere else, they get to decide how to run their elections. The other thing is the feds have come up with these federal voter lists, 20 ,000 names in California. But the problem is, first of all, DOJ has been unable to explain how these lists were created. State level election officials at red and blue states have said that the lists are rife with errors. And this past weekend, Wolf, a DOJ lawyer admitted in court that the federal lists have errors and are not accurate. So there's no reason constitutionally or practically why the federal lists should take over for the state lists.
58:32Pamela Brown: Another Northern District judge there issued a temporary restraining order, Ellie, aimed at the Department of Justice's pressure campaign against election officials. How unusual is it for a district judge to issue an order like this? Well, I think that district judge has the right idea, again, because California gets to run its elections, not the feds. But I think this particular decision, which is separate from the prior case, actually goes too far. Because first of all, that federal judge, one federal judge sitting in the Northern District of California said, the feds can't do this anywhere in the entire country.
59:05The Supreme Court has already told us individual district court judges, whether they're in San Francisco or Western Texas, are not supposed to issue nationwide rulings. And second of all, DOJ can and often does tell people, hey, such and such is a crime. We're going to be monitoring it. So be aware of that. And I think it's an overstep for a federal judge to tell DOJ and the FBI, you can't even issue that type of warning.
59:29Pamela Brown: Some FBI leaders are now ordering its agents to avoid enforcement actions near voting sites. What have we seen? Yeah, that's a really good development, Wolf. It is a longstanding principle of the Justice Department and the FBI that you avoid law enforcement activities, search warrants, arrests at the site of a polling place for obvious reasons. You don't want to deter people if you can safely conduct those operations elsewhere, or if you can wait a few days until the polling's over. So it's good to see the FBI adhering to that principle. There have been instances over the last week where DOJ has gone the other way by bringing high profile search warrants and indictments and announcements on the eve of an election.
1:00:11But all things being equal, it's a good thing that FBI is not going to be making arrests at polling places.
1:00:17Pamela Brown: Ellie Honig helping us understand what's going on. Thank you very, very much. Pamela. Thanks, Wolf. All right, Wolf. Up next, the impact of AI, how it's already shifting the way Americans vote and how some candidates are already catching on. We'll be right back.
1:00:37First in the Situation Room, a complex web of election threats. Sources tell CNN that security officials are preparing for this midterm cycle on multiple fronts. AI fueled foreign disinformation and chatbots influencing how people vote. CNN AI correspondent Hadass Gold joins us now. So Hadass, you met with a team of MIT professors to better understand what these chatbots are telling users about the midterms. What did you learn? Yeah, so I mean, as more and more people are turning to AI as their first stop in what would once have been an Internet search, that includes everything from what you're going to make for dinner to also who you should vote for in tomorrow's election.
1:01:15But it's important to note that which AI chatbot you interact with and who it thinks you are, your gender, your demographics, your religion, your race, that can actually affect the advice and the information that it gives you. Take a look. The top source for ChatGPT, okay, it's Washington Post, it's AP, it's PolitiFact, it is the websites of the actual candidates. That's Grok is citing Wikipedia, but I see they have Breitbart here as well, which Chachabuchi doesn't mention Breitbart at all. Nope. AI could change how America votes this year. Chatbots can influence a voter's opinion more than traditional political ads, according to research out of Cornell.
1:01:59And the AI you choose matters. Here at MIT, a team of professors is studying how the most popular AI chatbots respond to questions about the midterms. Their dashboard shows how the answers can also change depending on user demographics like gender, race, or geography. Let's do Ken Paxton. And what question would you like to do? Oh, let's do the five adjectives most commonly associated with Ken Paxton. And we're going to do user's gender, and we're going to do man versus woman. Interesting. Okay, I want to point this out. On the man, it says controversial, conservative, embattled, combative, polarizing.
1:02:33The woman's side is mostly the same, except it adds scandal, plague. Yeah. The man's doesn't mention the scandals at all. I know. I would argue scandals is much more of like a kind of aggressive description of somebody. OpenAI, the company behind ChatGPT and this result, said in a statement they're committed to keeping ChatGPT objective and that the chatbot is designed to avoid behavior that would manipulate a user or to conceal relevant facts or viewpoints to nudge them in a particular direction. Grok's parent company did not respond to CNN's request for comment. The important thing is just collecting this information is going to allow us to, after the election, step back and see, you know, what was the record of the responses that we had?
1:03:17Did different chatbots favor one group over another? Not just across different chatbots, but within a chatbot across different people. What surprised you the most in what you have found so far? I'm surprised by how highly sources that are quote-unquote unofficial are surfacing with regards to what we're observing. Sources like Facebook or Instagram or Twitter. Different chatbots are using different sources to pull their information from. Candidates have caught on, with some trying to tailor their web presence specifically for AI models, leading to a cottage industry of companies and consultants who promise to change AI answers.
1:04:01Do people trust what AI is telling them more than a Google search? By and large, people do trust them, but that trust is dropping over time. Even if people don't necessarily say that they trust AI, they like what AI gives them, which is a single answer. It's easier, right? Right.
1:04:18Pamela Brown: What worries me is that the average voter, right, someone who might know a little about politics but doesn't know the details, is going to get this definitive answer that might be based on a different stew of information, depending on whether the chatbot thought I was a Democrat or a Republican. That's very alarming, right, kind of thinking about what that means for us as a society. We all knew from social media that people end up getting in ecochambers and build microcosms of reality. And each of us is siloed to a version of the world and reality that we don't quite know if it's exactly the version of reality that other people are seeing.
1:04:57I feel that what we're experiencing right now with chatbots is that problem of steroids. So if you are planning to consult an AI chatbot before you vote in tomorrow's election, keep a few things in mind. It's a tool. It's not the ultimate answer. Try to ask a mix of different chatbots. Go to Gemini, go to Claude, go to Chachapi Tea and see how they change their answers. Also look at or even ask the chatbot for its sources, for links out to see where it is getting its information from. And remember, AI is not infallible. It can hallucinate. It can leave things out. So again, use it as a starting point and as a tool, but not as the ultimate deciding factor in your vote.
1:05:36That was so interesting, really important as we head into Election Day tomorrow. Hadass Gold, thank you so much. Wolf?
1:05:44Pamela Brown: And just ahead, Pamela, haunting final words from the cockpit. Just before a private jet slammed into a Florida highway and left a fiery crater. And now investigators are trying to figure out what went so tragically wrong.
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1:07:06See terms. Happening today, NTSB investigators arrive on the scene of Sunday's private jet crash near Palm Beach, Florida. Officials say all nine people on board were killed. This video captures the fiery aftermath. The impact, as you see, left a deep crater and sent burning debris toward homes and businesses. And we want to warn you, you might find the next video disturbing. A driver captured the moment of impact on their dash cam after what appeared to be a rapid descent from this plane. I mean, it really does look like an asteroid crashing into the ground. The pilot was heard reporting issues to air traffic control moments before the crash.
1:07:48722 Bravo Delta, we're descending 8 ,000 Mayday, Mayday, we're descending 10 ,000 feet per minute. So, so disturbing. CNN aviation correspondent Pete Mantine is here in the Situation Room. These images are heartbreaking, and to think what that pilot and those passengers went through in those final moments, it's just too much to bear. Do we have any better sense of what happened here, Pete? We still don't really know exactly what took place here, although we're getting some good clues from the publicly available data that's out there right now. The National Transportation Safety Board will provide its first update at 1 p.m.
1:08:23Eastern time. Hopefully investigators will be able to recover a cockpit voice recorder, though not all private jets like this one have one. This publicly available data really tells the story of this terrifying final minute of this flight in what was very bad weather. This is the flight path overlaid with the weather at the time. The plane makes an eastbound turn there. You can see that in that green area sort of at the center of the screen headed toward Freeport in the Bahamas. That was the final destination. But that path puts it straight into a storm cell, a rapidly developing thunderstorm.
1:08:58This plane's altitude, 35 ,000 feet. The pilot requests to climb to 37 ,000 feet to get out of that storm. The top of that thunderstorm, though, was 40 ,000 feet. Less than 30 seconds later, the plane suddenly begins this blistering dive that arcs to the right, descending faster and faster. The whole sequence takes place over the course of less than a minute. I want to show you this Flight Radar 24 image of that blistering dive. This is from another viewpoint. Looks like the plane crashes into the water. That's just the last data point. There's a bit of parallax here. But the data shows the rate of descent was at times more than 500 feet per second and producing speeds of more than 500 miles per hour.
1:09:38Weather, always a huge focus of investigators. And thunderstorms like this produce an interesting phenomenon and a dangerous phenomenon called supercooled water droplets that can be thrust upward and freeze on contact with a plane, sort of like freezing rain, investigators will also want to look at the airplane itself. They will, of course, try to gather images like this one of the plane's final moment before impact. This is the dash cam video. The still image shows the plane and the tail of that plane, the horizontal stabilizer, completely gone, which means that this plane would have been totally uncontrollable.
1:10:14The question now, though, is where in the timeline Did that damage occur? Was it in that thunderstorm or was it because of that major dive? And investigators will also, of course, want to look at the pilots. We now know that the copilot on board was Natalia Filigera. She was 20 years old. Generally, a commercial airline pilot must be at least 21 years old. Not a requirement for private flights such as this one. So much for investigators to dig into here. We will hear from the NTSB in this first press conference that they typically call planting the flag. The next press conference is usually when we get a much more wholesome readout of what will come from the cockpit voice recorder.
1:10:52Hopefully this plane had one too soon to say of a day. It's just so many questions, like you say. And so the voice that we heard there from that, that was her, the 20 year old. Yes, that's correct. Yeah, she was the co-pilot on board this plane. Another pilot on board nine people in total on this plane. A Learjet 60 like this typically is arranged to seat about six people, six passengers in total that can have a bit more. Of course, investigators will also want to look at the weight of the airplane at the time. Did that inhibit its performance? Did that make it harder for this airplane to climb over this thunderstorm?
1:11:23So much more to dig into here and still a lot to look at even before this last minute of data that we've been so focused on. But there may be even more leading up to the flight or in earlier portions of the flight that could really sort of set up the recipe for this disaster here. Pete Muntean, thank you so much. Wolf. time.
1:11:43Pamela Brown: Heartbreaking information indeed. All right, there's more breaking news we're following. The Trump administration is now asking the U.S. Supreme Court to force California to set aside thousands of ballots. The Justice Department claims may have been cast by non-citizens. CNN's Gabe Cohen is joining us right now. Gabe, lower courts have already rejected this request. What are you learning about this new development? Well, this is once again, Wolf, President Trump turning to the Supreme Court to try to force the implementation or at least have them weigh in on some of his efforts to exert more federal control over elections in this country.
1:12:19In this case, it comes just days after that appeals court had tossed out this lawsuit from the Justice Department, which is seeking to prevent the state of California from counting ballots from these 20 ,000 or so people that Trump's Department of Homeland Security identified as potential non-citizens who they say are on the voter rolls in California and may even be voting in these midterms. Now, one of the reasons that claim has faced a lot of scrutiny is because this administration for several months now has been putting out various statistics on non-citizens who they say are registered to vote or even voting in elections in this country.
1:12:57Those have been moving targets. Those numbers have not held up in some cases under the microscope. And we've heard officials in California raising doubts about it. But the lower courts had said there really wasn't standing for the federal government to try to implement these sort of 11th hour changes in California's election. But now we have the Trump administration asking the Supreme Court to get involved with the U.S. Solicitor General John Sauer saying once California commingles the challenge ballots with lawful ones, there is no way to get the challenged ballots back. What they are saying is if any of these 20 ,000 or so people end up voting, if they turn out to be non-citizens, then there would be no way after the fact to pull their ballots out and that they could impact the elections in California.
1:13:47But to be clear, there has been no evidence, despite claims again and again throughout this administration, Wolf, from the president about widespread non-citizen voting and about election rigging. He has talked even in recent days about certain Republican candidates only being able to lose races if the Democrats in those states cheat. There has not been evidence, proof brought forward by the administration of widespread fraud, that claim of widespread non-citizen voting. I'll again remind you that in California just a few months ago, back in July, I believe it was, DHS said that there were 190 ,000 possible non-citizens registered to vote.
1:14:26Now they have said 20 ,000, but those numbers still need to be vetted. Again, though, the Trump administration hoping that the Supreme Court will side with the administration and say that pending an investigation, the state of California should be required to keep those ballots aside from any of those 20 ,000 people. All right.
1:14:47Pamela Brown: Gabe Cohen reporting for us. Gabe, thank you very, very much. And we'll have more news right after this.
1:14:56happening now. Democratic Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed is talking to reporters after a campaign event. Let's listen in. Raise your hands. Raise your hands. Brady. Brady Shepard, HuffPost. Hi, this is for all three of you. What would Abdul's success mean for the future of the Democratic Party? Anybody can start. I'll tell you this. You know, I'm not running for the future of the Democratic Party. I'm running for the future of 10 million Michiganders who deserve to be able to afford gas and groceries deserve to be able to see a doctor, deserve to know that their politicians work for them rather than a bunch of corporations who too often buy and sell our politics.
1:15:31I will say this, though. You know, we ran on a very different viewpoint on how politics is organized. Too often we think that politics is about left versus right. It's not. It is about the people who are locked out, which is the majority of us, and then the people doing the locking out. I want to stand with the people who are locked out, unlocking the system from the folks who are doing the locking out. And I think that anybody who wants to win in the future has to recognize that we are far past left-right politics. There is a level of inequality in this country that is denying people basic access to the goods and services they need in their lives that has created an unlivable situation for a lot of folks.
1:16:07And it's not surprising to me when folks who... I'm so sorry. That's okay. Oh, man, microphone down. Yeah, it's fine. Shouldn't be this hard. It shouldn't be this hard. Shouldn't be this hard. Senator Warren, Dangle, any thoughts on that? Look, I mean, you know, not to not give him credit. Do you have a message for Haley Stevens today? Do you have a message for Haley Stevens today? Nope. Thank you. So clearly not wanting to address the controversy with Haley Stevens, his former opponent and the primary endorsing Mike Rogers, his Republican opponent now. Wolf?
1:16:39Pamela Brown: All right, Pamela, thank you. Joining us now, Republican Congresswoman Nancy Mace of South Carolina. Good morning, Congressman. Thanks so much for joining us. You just heard from Michigan Democratic Senate candidate Abdullel Syed. Democratic Congresswoman Haley Stevens, as you know, endorsed his Republican opponent, Mike Rogers. First of all, what's your reaction to her decision? Well, I think that Haley Stevens is brave. She's a strong woman with strong convictions and a strong voice. The decision to endorse Republican Mike Rogers in Michigan could not have been an easy one since she's a hardcore Democrat.
1:17:13at. But the bigger, I think, thing that I saw in all of this this weekend, Wolf, was how she was treated by some in the mainstream media, how she was treated by Abdul Al-Sayed. I thought it was very disrespectful. I was very disappointed to see the smirks of other men standing beside Abdul Al-Sayed as he was, I think, going after and attacking her this weekend. As a woman who's got a strong voice and strong convictions, I respect other women with strong voices and strong convictions. And I appreciate her candor and her support for Mike Rogers is going to be a tough race tomorrow for Mike.
1:17:48Pamela Brown: Very tough indeed. President Trump had this to say about Stevens' endorsement. Listen to this, Congressman.
1:17:59I'd love to have her. She was very brave doing it. And she did it for the people of Michigan. And I have great respect. I don't know her. I've never met her, but I have great respect
1:18:11Pamela Brown: The Congresswoman says she still plans to vote for Democratic candidates up and down the ballot, with the exception of Abdel El-Sayed. Would you welcome her to the Republican Party? A hundred percent. I would welcome anyone to our party. I think that we have lots of different opinions in the Republican Party and all of those voices should be welcome. And, you know, I respect her as someone who's served in Congress and has worked very hard for Michigan. Again, she deserves all the respect in the world for having that bravery and having that courage. And I was listening to Abdul Al-Sayed's comments this morning, I guess from an interview this weekend, talking about male genitalia being in a locker room and and he just doesn't respect women.
1:18:52And I am very concerned about the dangers that are imposed when biological men are in women's private spaces, whether it's a bathroom, a locker room, a sports team, whatever. We've been fighting for over 100 years to have the right to vote. We've never had a female president. Women work really hard for scholarships and on sports teams. And as a survivor, I am always advocating and fighting for other survivors. And so, you know, I respect anyone who's left Abdul to go support Mike Rogers because he supports women and girls. And that's important to Michigan.
1:19:22Pamela Brown: What does her decision say about the state of the Democratic Party right now? Well, I think both parties actually, you know, have some chaos going on and have some challenges within their ranks. I think we've seen that repeatedly, especially during this cycle. You've had traditional Democrats have Democrat primaries and get ousted by Democrat socialists. We just had that in Florida with Angie Nixon, which was shocking to see in Florida. She ran against someone who fled a socialist country and Florida Democrats elected the woman advocating for a socialist country. So I think that there are some real challenges within each of the parties, which really I think are I think a lot of us are concerned the majority of America and the future of our country looks like.
1:20:07Pamela Brown: Another key Senate race is in your home state of South Carolina with Republican incumbent Darlene Graham facing Democratic challenger Annie Andrews. According to The New York Times Siena poll, there is no clear leader, at least not now. The House Speaker Mike Johnson was campaigning in Iowa yesterday and had this to say about recent polls. Listen to this. You can dismiss the polls, okay? The polls are wrong all around the country. I have been to the swing districts. I have been to the blue states. I have been to the areas where they claim that this race is over. It is not over. What are you taking away from all these polls, especially in your home state of South Carolina?
1:20:52If you haven't voted yet, you need to get out and vote tomorrow. I understand when we're looking at polling, they've been off over the years. Part of that is that MAGA voters don't want to be polled and won't give you their answers on a poll. MAGA voters are notorious and they're historic for waiting until election day. They're not early voters. They come out on election day. And so that's why we see some of these polls that are skewed a little bit. But I'll tell you, I'm looking at polling data. I'm looking at data online and social media sentiment. and we are in dire straits. In the South Carolina Senate race, it is a complete toss-up.
1:21:24And here we are, Annie Andrews running against Darlene Graham. I ran against Annie Andrews four years ago. I beat her by 14 solid points. She's out there saying she's for the Second Amendment right now. But when I ran against her, her number one issue was taking our guns away. So if you are a South Carolina voter and you have not voted yet and you want to keep your guns, you vote for Darlene Graham tomorrow. She has been out there on the trans issue and been against women in sports and locker rooms and all those issues that we care about as American women and girls. And she's totally rebranded herself.
1:21:56And it's not truthful. It is a lie. And I'm begging South Carolina voters to pull their head out of the sand and think about what the future of South Carolina is. If Annie Andrews wins, Tim Scott is no longer going to be the chairman of banking or the Senate Banking Committee. I mean, there are real repercussions if Democrats take over. There is a silver lining. I think Ashley Henson is doing real well in Iowa. I think she's going to pull that one out solidly tomorrow. But I'm very concerned about Ohio and Texas, Georgia, North Carolina and South Carolina, my home state.
1:22:25Pamela Brown: According to a New York Times Siena poll, Congresswoman, among South Carolina likely voters, 46 percent say they strongly disapprove of President Trump's handling of his job. If Democrats take control of Congress, what message does that send to the White House? Well, I think that, you know, the message is the Epstein files were something that people wanted. The Iran war was something America did not want. And I think the losses that we're going to see tomorrow, and this is a midterm election, we are going to suffer some losses. I think there'll be greater than average, but I think you can book in these losses and I'm predicting it now.
1:23:01It started with the Epstein files and it's going to end with the Iran war and people are suffering or seniors can't afford to keep their homes. Property taxes are high, groceries and gasoline is high. I honestly don't know how the average American is making it And neither party has a plan put in place with the debt that we're seeing right now to bring prices under control. As long as the Iran war goes on, the more expensive things are going to be. And it is unattainable, unaffordable for almost every single hardworking American right now.
1:23:31Pamela Brown: Our Republican Congresswoman Nancy Mace of South Carolina, thanks as usual for joining us. Thank you. And thanks very much for joining us this morning. You can keep up with us on social media at Wolf Blitzer and at Pamela Brown CNN. Inside Politics with our friend and colleague Dan Abash starts right after a quick break.
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A political earthquake in Michigan as Democratic Rep. Haley Stevens abandons Democratic Senate nominee Dr. Abdul El-Sayed and endorses Republican Mike Rogers, drawing fierce backlash from her own party and raising new questions about one of the nation's key battleground races... Democrats look to ride signs of a potential blue wave in critical Senate contests from Michigan and Maine to Kansas and Ohio as candidates make their final appeals before Election Day... OpenAI launches an election "war room" to monitor potential AI-driven misinformation while concerns grow over the role artificial intelligence could play in spreading false election narratives.
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