1777 – How to Separate the Best from the Rest with William Vanderbloemen

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0:58with us right now it's william vanderbloomen william you are the founder and ceo of vanderbloomen search group you're found on the web at vanderbloomen.com now for our listeners i'm going to spell this for you and also i assume dutch right william yeah but the cool thing is you don't have to spell it. Josh, my name, the only reason we picked my name for the company is the search engine guys said, I gave them like 300 domain names that I bought because I have a problem buying. I need to get in a regular recovery group for this kind of thing. I've got way too many. I said, here are 300, pick the best one.

1:36You just can't name the thing after me. And they came back and said, say, good news, bad news. We found the right one. Yeah, bad news. It's your last name. I'm like, guys, you know, I don't want to be the lid. They're like, no, no, no, no, no. Your last name is so messed up. People can misspell it into Google a hundred different ways and it will feed back to you. So you don't have to spell it. Just try. You'll get there. I promise. Spell it like Vanderbloom and Onion, you know, and that's - Anything you want, it will show up. I promise. Yeah. So if you don't want to do the guessing to our friend that's listening to us, just click on the show notes.

2:11We've got a direct link right there. But William, I'm excited to have this conversation. I love what you do. Why don't you maybe just share a little bit about the impact you have and who you work with? Yeah, so weird career path. Years and years ago, I started as a pastor. And I don't know if good at that is the thing you say with pastors, but I ended up going up the ranks fairly quickly. I was at a very large church at a very young age as the head pastor. Now, fast forward, going to the business world, the big Fortune 200 company I was working for decided it's time to find a new CEO. They went and hired a search firm, which I'd never heard of, to help with the search.

2:53They were done in 90 days with a new CEO. Churches move so slowly, so, so slowly. And I was at a really good one, and they move slowly. And I thought, well, this is kind of silly. I wonder if we could build something like what the business world has for churches to find their pastor. And then we branched out to nonprofits. We branched out to schools. We branched out to values-based businesses, for lack of a simpler way of saying it, the Chick-fil-A's of the world. And it's been a kick. We've been 15 years at it, and it's been a lot of fun. You know, William, I wanted to also point out, I'm sorry, I forgot to mention this in the intro, but you're also the author of the book, Be the Unicorn, 12 Data-Driven Habits that Separate the Best from the Rest.

3:40You have my attention. Tell me more about the book. And by the way, looks like it just launched as of when we're recording this. So congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. So, you know, all books start with something that's a question the author wants answered, right? Because you don't do books to make money, not unless your name ends in rowling and you write about wizards. You know, that's about it. For years, I've wondered, Josh, you've probably had this happen. You meet somebody and within five minutes, it doesn't happen often, but you meet somebody and within five minutes, you're saying this one's special.

4:16This one's different. And when I was a younger leader, I'd just try and hire them, which is not smart and they're not always the best fit. But what is it that's going on? I mean, I got a lot to learn, but I'm not super gullible. So how is it that this person has grabbed my attention, that I'll sign up for their email list, that I want to hire them, that I want to have coffee? What are they doing? That's a question, you know, because if I could figure out what that is, man, I could learn to spot people quicker. I'd be a better search person. Fast forward 13 years, we get to the pandemic. Every one of our clients is shut down indefinitely, which will change your calendar quite a bit.

4:55Maybe some of you listeners had similar experiences, but we got to sit back during a really weird time and say, well, okay, we've been doing this. We've grown every year, 13 years. What have we learned? And I'm back to this question. What is it that people do in the first five minutes that make you an instant fan? And we realized that in all of our searches, the very, very best candidates in a search get a long format face-to-face interview, right? It's like three hours long. We track it. We realized during the pandemic, we've done 30 ,000 of those now of the best of the best. And so we're like, a lot of these people are the within five minutes, they had our attention.

5:35And so we said, well, okay, do they have anything in common? And the answer was yes. And the list was very, very clear and consistent and super surprising. Nothing I guessed. and when we started uncovering these similarities among these unicorn candidates we were like we got to turn that into a book and so there you go the unicorn came and it's the things they had in common were so interesting josh wow i figured it would be they were also really smart like high iq no uh and then i thought well maybe maybe they all had a really good education and they're well connected from an Ivy League or something like that.

6:18Nope, that wasn't it. Maybe they're a certain age. Nope. It cut across age, gender, socioeconomics. What it ended up being were 12 habits that these unicorns all seemed to be naturally pointed toward. And it was basically how they treat other humans. and it's very intentional and very easy to learn, but very unusual for people to practice. So that's where we came up with the book. We thought we were doing a very selfish project to uncover a better way for us to do searches. What we found was it's not traits that these people have, it's habits that they practice and habits that can be taught. So it's Be the Unicorn 12, data-driven habits that separate the best leaders from the rest.

7:11And the list of habits probably won't surprise you, but the fact that it's backed by so much research and data makes it an unusually helpful list. So that you practice these 12 habits, you will rise out of the crowd. You will stand out. You will be one that people are like, I want to hire them on their email list. I don't know what they did in five minutes, but this is amazing. And yeah, we thought what was going to be selfish, we discovered, oh, now it's not, how do we spot a unicorn, but we can teach people to become one. Become unicorns. Yeah, right. So let's make it a book and let's make it available to people to try and level up.

7:48So you've already got some great traction. Even this book just published as of when we're recording this a couple of days ago. You got a lot of five-star reviews on this. Congratulations on the launch. It's available on hardcover, Kindle, and thank you so much for producing an audio book. Yep. Yep. And I actually read it. So if you don't like my voice, don't do the audio book. Yeah. Okay. I have a face made for audio books, Josh. Yeah. So let's, you're welcome to, you know, answer this anyway. I want to know what the 12 data-driven habits are. Yeah. Well, you know, if you looked at the table of contents, obviously there are, I think, 14 chapters, 12 of them are devoted to, you know, one for each habit.

8:34But if you look at the list, you're going to say, duh, I could have written that. Well, maybe. Some of them are fairly intuitive. But the fact that we actually distilled from data, like, oh, this is what they do that makes things different, makes it fairly special. In fact, the alternate title for the book was going to be, well, I guess mom was right. Because it's a lot of this stuff I heard growing up. For instance, we call it the fast in the book, but it's really the responsive. Do you get back to people? and do you get back to them quickly and intentionally? That is something that unicorns, the very best of the best, almost always do.

9:11They're almost obsessed with it. It's something that the rest of us are horrible at. It's not a, you must be six feet tall to get this done or you must be, run the 40 in some ridiculous number. It's just, do you get back to people and most people are terrible at it. We looked at stats from sales and marketing companies about how quickly salespeople who are paid on commission actually get back to leads. It's frightening how bad the response time is. We even looked at eHarmony, like the old school version of all the dating apps that are out now, like the OG. This is a database of essentially lonely people that really want to find someone to spend their life with.

9:52And they'll get an email from eHarmony saying, we found a few people you might want to call. And people wait forever to get back to them. it's amazing how easy this one tweak in your habits can make you one that stands out of the crowd and i profess to that we started our company with nothing and we had six kids and a house we could barely afford and uh i got back to people fast because if we didn't get business we didn't eat right and i just i kept getting back to people quickly and over time you're like wow you know you get back. Nobody gets back to us. And I thought that was just kind of weird.

10:29But now the data shows actually that's a really uncommon habit. That's an easy one to adopt. Yeah. Doesn't that blow your mind? Like I've seen that like in follow-ups, let's say you go to a really great event and it's amazing. It blows my mind. You know, it's like you could, let's say you meet like two, three, like just amazing potential partners or customers or whatever. And the people who don't follow up on that. It's like, what are you doing? It's like, you know, and they're like, yeah, but then I got back and I started getting busy and started putting out fires. I'm like, okay, that's not ideal.

11:07Three days ago, we've split some season tickets for the Astros within Houston for years with three or four families. And now our company likes it so much, we may just get some tickets on our own, right? And so I emailed our ticket guy that we've had for many, many years and said, hey, I think I'd like to buy more season tickets. Could you get back to me? I hadn't heard from him yet. Like, I want to buy something from you. Would you please call me? Here is my mobile. Just click here. Yeah. And I've done the same thing, but like it's the most easy tweak to your habit that will cause you to stand out of the crowd.

11:43And that's just one of the 12, but it's an easy one to adapt. Leaders in the service industry, I got to tell you, especially home service industry. Wow. That blows my mind what a low bar it is to succeed in home services, for example. But I can't tell you the number of times that I've called on a contractor. They don't call me back or, you know, I say, okay, I'm ready to buy, you know, when can we get you out here? And like, I'm like, you know, just nothing crickets. I'm like, man. So it's like, you know, my son who's now in college and my high school senior son. That's one thing, you know, that alone is what I drilled into them.

12:23I said, listen, if you ever have a client opportunity, you got to be fast. You got to be first and you got to show them that you really, really want to be able to serve them. And if you do that, that's, you know, you're already, I had to probably 80 % of the field just based on that alone. You know, this term inbound marketing, basically like a lot of form on my website and someone will get back with you kind of thing. Yeah. Whatever you're buying a massive study of people who pay a lot of money for inbound marketing software. And the study showed that if you get back to a lead within a minute of receiving that lead, you have a 98 % chance of talking to the person 98%.

13:02If you wait 24 hours from when you receive the form to calling, it's less than 1 % chance that you'll ever talk to the person. And the average response time of the companies that were participating is 42 hours. It's not hard. It just requires some very intentional effort to be responsive. And the unicorns naturally do it. But I think it's what excites me about the book is every single chapter is, okay, here's a case study on someone who's really responsive. Here's what we learned from all the unicorns we interviewed that are responsive. Here's what you can do personally, easy steps for you to make yourself more responsive and stand out in the crowd.

13:49This is incredible. William, again, the book, Be the Unicorn, 12 Data-Driven Habits That Separate the Best Leaders from the Rest. It's on Amazon right now. You can get to it by going to your website as well, vanderbloomen.com. And again, we've got for that in the show notes. You know, we just scratched the surface of number one of 12. I cannot wait to listen. I'm going to get the, your voice is great. I'm going to listen to the audiobook. But really, I can't wait to listen to this one. It's going to be a lot of fun. William, who should reach out to you on vanderbloomen.com? Who do you work with?

14:26And how might they know that they're ready to have a conversation or at least start tapping into the resources that you provide. Yeah, I would say if you're in a leadership position in any kind of company where you've got to build and run and keep a great team, go to our website. There are over 4 ,000 free resources there to help you, like how to run a mid-year review, how do I fire a best friend, how do I, you know, there's all kinds of treasure trove of things that we've built over the 15 years we've been doing this. So that should help anybody. If you're in a values based business and you need the very best unicorn for your team, give us a call.

15:05We can probably help you out. We've got a lot to learn, but we've learned a lot and would love to help you. But more than anything, just come to the site and use those resources. We put them there to give away and try and help folks. Yeah. Excellent. William Vanderbloemen, again, founder and CEO of Vanderbloemen. What did you call it? Vanderbloemen. Yeah, we just went to Vanderbloemen. And it's just, that's what it is. So yeah. All right. Well, you're either founder and CEO of your last name. That's it. William, it's been great having you. Great conversation. Can't wait to listen to the rest of this.

15:41Thanks so much, Josh. I appreciate you having me.

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