453 - Epstein Updates & Dinner in DC

19 Jul 2025 · 59 min · 17 chapters

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In short

Tim Dillon discusses alleged Epstein-related “updates” and a private dinner in Washington with an unnamed administration figure. He argues the government is mishandling or withholding evidence, claims the available material is likely pornography rather than tapes implicating powerful people, and insists Pam Bondi should be fired, documents unsealed, and Ghislaine Maxwell forced to testify.

Guest backgrounds

No podcast guests are interviewed. Dillon himself is the speaker. He references unnamed “people” at a small dinner (3–4 attendees) and cites public figures (Pam Bondi, Kash Patel, Dan Bongino, Dick Durbin, Alexander Acosta, Leslie Wexner, Ghislaine Maxwell, Donald Trump).

Key claims

Bondi allegedly has “10,000 hours” of evidence but it’s said to be downloaded porn; incriminating tapes are allegedly held by foreign intelligence or billionaires or destroyed. Dillon claims Epstein’s relationship network involved intelligence agencies (CIA/Mossad/MI6). He also alleges the FBI review focused on flagging records mentioning Trump.

Notable examples

Mentions a Trump “birthday letter” to Epstein reported by the Wall Street Journal; Durbin’s letter about 1,000 FBI personnel reviewing ~100,000 records; claims Epstein was “switched out” and may be living in Les Wexner’s Ohio home; references a 2002 New York Magazine profile and a VH1 puff piece about Epstein.

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Dinner with a Member of the Administration

0:45 to 2:10

Tim discusses a dinner he had with a member of the administration and the insights gained.

“Because we are going to now, I'm going to tell you about a dinner I had with a member of the administration.”

The Epstein Conspiracy

2:10 to 3:50

Exploring the allegations surrounding Jeffrey Epstein and the implications of his actions.

“It was a small dinner What day did When did I go?”

The Evidence and Tapes

3:50 to 7:10

Discussion on the nature of evidence related to Epstein and the rumored tapes.

“She has commercial pornography downloaded from the internet.”

Ghislaine Maxwell and Testimony

7:10 to 10:40

Contemplating Ghislaine Maxwell's situation and the possibility of her testifying.

“I think Trump and Epstein fell out over a house they both wanted to buy.”

Reflections on Family and Success

10:40 to 14:00

Tim reflects on his relationship with his father and perceptions of success.

“Let's have her raise the right hand and let's have her talk about what this operation was.”

Pride in Proximity to Success

14:00 to 16:40

Learn how valuing proximity to success can shape personal pride and aspirations.

“I judge severely the people who are not that much lower than me.”

Epstein Conspiracies and Allegations

17:15 to 21:09

Explore various theories surrounding Jeffrey Epstein and the implications of his connections.

“But supposedly they do not have tapes that have incriminating stuff.”

Political Ramifications of Epstein's Legacy

21:09 to 26:02

Understand the political fallout of Epstein's connections and discussions about accountability.

“Now, listen, a lot of people that were on that island are dead.”

Calls for Action in Government

26:02 to 28:00

Hear the urgent need for changes in government leadership and accountability following scandals.

“She's got to go back to Florida and prosecute people that, you know, are misbehaving on jet skis.”

The Call for Transparency in Epstein's Case

28:00 to 30:50

Discussing the need for full transparency regarding Epstein's dealings and connections.

“and you can't articulate a clear sentence, you have to go.”
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Richness and Morality: A Dark Connection

31:53 to 42:01

Exploring the moral complexities of wealth and connections to illicit activities.

“Based on the ridiculous amount of publicity given to Jeffrey Epstein, I've asked Attorney General Pam Bondi to produce any and all pertinent grand jury testimony subject to court approval.”

Exploring Epstein's Mysterious Wealth

42:01 to 44:59

Discussion about Jeffrey Epstein's enigmatic financial background and connections.

“There's articles written about Stephen Cohen.”

VH1's Puff Piece on Epstein

46:39 to 51:46

Critique of VH1's glamorization of Jeffrey Epstein's life and the implications.

“They did, VH1 did like the fabulous life of billionaires.”

The Changing Narrative of Mystery

51:46 to 56:00

Discussion on how the perception of 'mystery' has evolved in light of Epstein's actions.

“It is largely a science of what most people would call outright criminality.”

The State of Late Night Television

56:00 to 1:02:32

Explore the decline of late night shows and the disconnect with audiences.

“CBS's billionaire owners pay Trump$16 million to settle a bogus lawsuit while trying to sell the network to Skydance.”

The State of Late Night Television

1:02:34 to 1:03:19

Explore the decline of late night shows and the disconnect with audiences.

“does he have his betting market on Calci?”

Insider Insights from a Dinner

1:03:20 to 1:04:15

Hear about a dinner with political insiders discussing their awareness of public anger.

“And they know that the best, the thing that needs to happen here is Bondi needs to be fired.”
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0:15Tim Dillon:Oh, and it is completely ad-free. Yes, I said it, ad-free. Try YouTube Premium for two months free at youtube.com slash premium. Trial eligibility varies, terms apply, cancel anytime. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dillon Show. Good to be with you, as always, and I'm happy that you are here with me. I hope I have your trust. Because I see trust being removed from lots of people, and for good reason. Because we are going to now, I'm going to tell you about a dinner I had with a member of the administration. I'm going to tell you everything that I know, and I'm going to say the things that I do not know.

1:06Tim Dillon:And I am also not going to attest to the veracity, Google it, of the information, how true or false the information is. I'm going to tell you What I was told Okay It's not a defense of Trump It's not a defense of the administration In fact I think if they do not release Everything they have They are done I believe that If they do not release And I told them that You need to release everything you have Pam Bondi Needs to be Fired I told them that They know that The people I spoke to Person People Person People They know that

2:07Tim Dillon:I went to Washington We had a dinner It was a small dinner What day did When did I go? Wednesday I went Wednesday Here's the rub Jeffrey Epstein is an innocent man I'm kidding, that's not the rub That's not the rub Yes, it's a blackmail operation Yes, it was Yes, this guy's got connections to intelligence Everybody knows that Yes, the intelligence is Mossad and CIA Most likely We all know that Yes, he was running some type of blackmail operation procuring young girls for powerful people. A lot of this was on tape somewhere. When Pam Bondi came out and said, I have 10 ,000 hours of evidence, what has been told to me is that that is porn Epstein downloaded from the internet.

3:17Tim Dillon:It is not the tapes of powerful people in compromising positions. And the person who told me that said, listen, I'm not saying those tapes don't exist. I'm saying that the person who has that, those tapes, is either a foreign intelligence service, Ireland, as you guess, or a billionaire or billionaires or they have been destroyed. You know, there isn't a tape of Bill Clinton fucking a 12-year-old that Pam Bondi has on her desk. She has commercial pornography downloaded from the internet. The tapes that show incriminating things are with who's ever blackmailing these people. Again, this is what was told to me.

4:17Tim Dillon:And that, which again, from the outside, I can see whoever is running this operation not being dumb enough to let tapes get to the desk of Pam Bondi, who is the attorney general. Now, again, do I know what is on those tapes? Absolutely not. I really don't want to know. I don't want a trove of pornography delivered so I can analyze it. What was told to me was that those tapes are pornography, some legal, some probably not, that he had downloaded. There are tapes of Epstein walking around his house, and there are photos of underage girls. but there is no tape of Bill Gates or Donald Trump or Bill Clinton engaging in activity with a minor.

5:15Tim Dillon:Okay. However, again, this is told to me at a private dinner that we're having. I'm not going to tell you who it's with. I won't. If you're smart, maybe you know by the end of the episode, but I don't know if you're smart. I don't know if you're smart. I'll drop clues. I'll drop little clues. I'll drop tiny clues. I'll drop tiny clues. But I'm not going to tell you. People speak, I think, under the condition of some type of anonymity here. Truly. No offense. So I'm not going to go out and say who it was. I'm not going to say who it was. Tiny clues. Tiny little clues. And it wasn't RFK. I couldn't do that for an hour or two-hour dinner.

6:13Tim Dillon:Can you imagine that? I imagine. I couldn't. I couldn't do it. That's not who it was. They know they have a problem. They got a big problem. You have to. I don't think the grand jury docs, which I also said, you got to unseal all of that. You got to get Bondi to go to a judge and unseal it. That will not satiate people. You need to release all of the documents unless you're going to have a big problem. Trump and Epstein were friends for a very long time. The nature of their relationship is kind of a mystery to a lot of people. Donald Trump has said, hey, I knew the guy. He traveled in society circles, New York, Palm Beach.

7:07Tim Dillon:Epstein said this guy was my best friend, I think, at one point. I think Trump and Epstein fell out over a house they both wanted to buy. I know that Epstein hit on a young girl at Mar-a-Lago and Trump kicked him out. I don't know where they hung out, what trips they took. I'm unaware of that. People got mad at me on the last episode, they're like, you're covering for Trump. And I'm like, I'm not covering for Trump. Trump has never been accused of anything with an underage person. You know, he's clearly a guy that's driven like a lot of people by sex. And he's clearly somebody that has probably acted inappropriately.

7:53Tim Dillon:But it was never, he was never accused of being with somebody who's underage. And I think a lot of people that don't like Trump would tell you that wasn't his thing. A lot of these women he was with, Ivana, Marla Maples, are kind of like Vegas showgirls. They look like 35, even when they're 25, a lot of them. They're just caked in makeup, huge hair, tits out, during like a gold, you know. I mean, now is it impossible that Epstein or whoever has some compromising material on Trump? Absolutely not. I don't know. But I only suggested that thus far, that is not something he's been accused of doing.

8:37Tim Dillon:Okay, that doesn't mean that it's impossible. It's obviously not impossible. And in order to get this type of speculation to quiet down, they have to release everything that they have. And I told this person that. And this person knows that. And we also discussed Ghislaine. Ghislaine. Ghislaine. I think it's Ghislaine. No one offered Ghislaine a plea deal. Nobody went to Ghislaine Maxwell and said, give up somebody and we will reduce your sentence. And that could be for a couple of reasons. They didn't want to give a plea deal to a pedophile. That's certainly not a popular thing to do. But it could also be because people didn't want Ghislaine to be like, actually, I have a funny story.

9:40People didn't want that. They weren't looking forward to that.

9:43Tim Dillon:They said, keep your trap shut. Now, I said at this dinner, I said Ghislaine must speak. She should testify before Congress. A couple of the people at the dinner, again, it was a small dinner, three or four people, about four people, three, four, then three. They knew. They said that is not on the table at the moment. But it's not impossible. Nobody's super jazzed about it. Like it's been suggested. Like I thought I had the idea first. I didn't. Other people had suggested it. Why don't we get this bitch? We know where this bitch is. We know where she is. Let's get her. Let's put her under oath.

10:46Tim Dillon:Let's have her raise the right hand and let's have her talk about what this operation was. That has not been warmly received by anybody over there. Right, left, center. A lot of people in Washington were not excited. And probably New York, Palm Beach, London. any city you can't afford people weren't jazzed about that they weren't pumped up about her testifying you know how you meet your friend and they're pumped up they're running a 5k and they're pumped up and they're excited about it and they're telling everyone they know about i'm i'm doing a 5k yeah it's good to see you i gotta keep running i'm training for a 5k and they're pumped up and they're excited and they keep talking about this thing they're doing to keep pumping.

11:46This is the opposite of that. Ghislaine Maxwell testifying in front of Congress, kind of the opposite of that. No one's running through the streets going, let's get her to testify. Won't it be fun? That's not happening. It's not exciting to a lot of people.

12:04Tim Dillon:They have not embraced it. I think it's a good idea. I told the people at the dinner that. They kind of agreed. They get it. Put her under oath. Put her in the chair.

12:20The problem is she's going to want something to testify. And now you're cutting the sentence of a pedophile. Now, what if she, because Ghislaine's an asset. She's an intelligence asset. She's probably not going to hang people with the testimony. She knows how to do that.

12:42Tim Dillon:She knows how to say things without saying things. I'm guessing. I would imagine. Unless she just decides to just fucking burn it all down. But she probably won't. Her dad, you know, I think a team of people stormed his yacht. Threw him off. You know? Four Israeli prime ministers were at his funeral. Hopefully they'll be at mine as well for different reasons. but the heads of the Mossad he got a great burial plot in Israel it's his whole thing they literally said he's done more for Israel things we can't even say right now he was a big asset and I think Ghislaine values that that's dad that's her daddy that's dad You gotta love your dad.

13:42Tim Dillon:Me and my father don't have the greatest relationship. I still love my dad. I like things about my father. I like that he does things like that I do. He looks down on people that are not that lower than him. Almost not lower than him. But I like that about him. He looks way down on people that are not that much lower than him. And I do as well. I judge severely the people who are not that much lower than me. And in fact, I judge severely people that have things I don't have and that are good. But I love that about my father. I like that my father, like I do, appropriates the accomplishments of other people.

14:24Tim Dillon:Like, you know, he will take pride in a beautiful, wealthy area or a skyscraper or something that he had nothing to do with. And I do the same thing. I like it and I talk about it like I had something to do with it, but I didn't. You know, and that's something I learned from my father. You take pride in being near success. My whole life I've done, I got successful when I was like 40. You know, 37, whatever. But like, before that, I took a lot of pride that I was near success. I learned that from my father. Be near success. Live near success. And then show people, look at these fucks and how well they've done.

15:14Show them that. Your bum friends are going to come visit you. Show them the people that have done it. And you take a little bit from that. And you make it your own. You internalize it. You got to love your dad and her dad. Say what you want about him. But he was a super spy. The guy did it. He was a media mogul. He was an access agent. He was working. The guy was working. That's her father. I don't think she's going to light it all on fire. I think she values that. I think she goes down with the ship. But then, you know, so the problem is if she gets up there and she doesn't really give people what they want.

16:02She's not giving people up. Then you got to pardon her. You got to pardon a pedophile. That's a tough call. Evening. Buyer's remorse. Buy a new car? I'll be moving in. Let's get started. Sorry, I think there's been a mistake. I bought it from Carvana. You what? Yeah, great price. I even have seven days to love it or return it. So there's no... No, no buyer's remorse. More like buyers rejoice? I guess I'll let myself out. Congratulations. I mean it. Buyers rejoice. Buy your car today on Carvana. Limitations and exclusions may apply. See our seven-day return policy at Carvana.com. Queen Carvania stood haloed by the morning sun.

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17:22Tim Dillon:They have incriminating for the man who's dead. Or who's living in Les Wexner's house? Get up, Les Wexner's house. Get up how big it is, New Albany, Ohio. Is this man living? Was Jeffrey Epstein switched out in the middle of the night? And is he living in Les Wexner's house?

17:48Tim Dillon:Is he living there? Couldn't he live there? Wouldn't he be able to live there? we don't know.

18:05I have info. I have info, folks. I can say, I want to say things here. The guy who had less,

18:14Tim Dillon:the guy who had Epstein's job after Wexner, and I want you to go find this. I don't know if you can find it. But the guy who had Epstein's job after Wexner was also popped for child porn. And then they ran some article in a paper in the Columbus dispatch. Then I think Wexner bought the paper and the article doesn't exist anymore. But there are, there is something to suggest that that happened. that the second guy who had Epstein's job also got popped for that. It almost makes it seem like that's part of it. My guess, I don't know. These people are very litigious. So I got to be careful about saying things that are not substantiated as my producer furiously tries to search for this because we're literally about to be sued and killed.

19:23We're literally about to be sued and killed. We're both about to be sued and killed. And I didn't even learn this at the dinner. I learned this somewhere else. I was at Cold Stone Creamery and someone said that. Someone said that. They said, did you know this? And I said, interesting. So I don't, what do you want me to say? This Les Wexner fellow I feel like is Shady My guess Don't know But my guess would be That he's a shady individual Can we do a little image Let's do a Google image

20:08Just a Google image Just an image

20:18Tim Dillon:Get up that one in the suit That one's the one I like with the bow tie Second row to the right All the way to the right Make that big That's the essence of the man You gotta find a photo It's the essence of the man He knows things He's got a face of a guy that knows a few things.

20:47But I told people, I said, you have to fire Pam Bondi.

20:55Tim Dillon:You have to have Ghislaine Maxwell testify. If there's nothing there, you got to release all the documents that you have. Otherwise, it's going to be a problem. Now, listen, a lot of people that were on that island are dead. A lot of them are 80. A lot of them are probably living in other countries. It's not, you know, the perp walk that you want to see happen is probably not going to happen. Sorry. That doesn't mean that there aren't some people that are very guilty that could face justice and should. It means that you're not going to get everybody who's ever done anything on that island because a lot of them are probably dead.

21:36Tim Dillon:They're dying by the minute.

21:42Tim Dillon:So in conclusion to that, we have more to say about it. Certainly they're now coming to Hill, you know, Dick Durbin, who's a Democrat, the Democrats are running with this, as you would. Bondi pressured a thousand FBI personnel to comb through tens of thousands of documents related to Epstein and Flagg, any mention of Trump. This is from The Hill. Durbin made the explosive allegations in letters he sent Friday to Bondi, Kash Patel, and Dan Bongino, seeking more information about the administration handling of files related to Epstein and asking why senior officials were allegedly focused on looking for documents connecting Trump to Epstein.

22:25Tim Dillon:Citing information my office received, Durbin said Bondi pressured the FBI to put approximately a thousand people in its information management division on 24-hour shifts to review about 100 ,000 Epstein-related records as part of a broader effort to release documents publicly by what Durbin called an arbitrarily short deadline. They were instructed to flag any records in which Trump was mentioned, said Durbin. Now the Wall Street Journal released this article where Trump wrote a letter to Epstein for his birthday. And it's some type of letter that, you know, Epstein's friend sent him bawdy letters for his 50th birthday.

23:05Tim Dillon:Bawdy meaning like salacious and inappropriate. And Donald Trump wrote one. Get up the Trump letter and let's read that. But again, Trump's saying it didn't happen and it's fake and it's not real. The only way you get ahead of this is if you fire Bondi. I'd like to see Bondi and Cash. I don't know anything about Bongino, but again, if all three of them, you know, this is the biggest bungling of anything ever. Remember when they had these morons go out with these binders? Epstein files phase one what the fuck were they thinking so it looks really bad and if they want it to look less bad and I don't know how bad it is but and I don't think the top people know how bad it is to be honest I don't think people know I don't know and a lot of people that I talk to don't know there's a belief that it's not as bad as certain people think and it might be worse than what other people think.

24:13Tim Dillon:It's somewhere there. It isn't clear how the letter with Trump's signature was prepared. Inside the outline of the naked woman was a typewritten note styled as an imaginary conversation between Trump and Epstein written in the third person voiceover. There must be more to life than having everything the note began. Donald, yes, there is, but I won't tell you what it is. Jeffrey, nor will I, since I also know what it is. Donald, we have certain things in common, Jeffrey. Jeffrey, yes, we do come to think of it. Donald, enigmas never age. Have you noticed that? Jeffrey, as a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you.

24:48Tim Dillon:Donald, a pal is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday and may every day be another wonderful secret.

24:57Tim Dillon:Well, if that's Trump, not ideal, certainly in hindsight, you gotta release everything you've got he's supposedly suing Murdoch he's suing the Wall Street Journal you have to release everything you got you're in a scandal that's about to engulf your presidency that may already be engulfing the presidency and if you do not release everything you have right now and get rid of the Attorney General because she is either A, not communicating, or B, lying. She's either incompetent or she's untruthful. She's not truthful. Is untruthful one of the things you can say? I'm asking. You don't know. You don't know if untruthful is something you can say.

25:54I don't know that. Do you know that? Yes.

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25:57Tim Dillon:Can you say untruthful? Yeah. Or not truthful. You can say untruthful. I was right. But she's got to go. Pam Bondi's got to go. She's got to go back to Florida and prosecute people that, you know, are misbehaving on jet skis. She's got to get out. And you got to bring in Megyn Kelly.

26:22Tim Dillon:Truly, you have to bring in Megyn Kelly to be the Attorney General of America. That's it. That's it. No more nonsense. You can't bring in just TV people You gotta bring in good TV people Kish Patel These people are like people who failed at having Podcasts They would have been me if they had talent They're running the FBI Because they're shot These are people that were like Hyping up Q drops on 4chan And leading retards In every fucking direction Thinking that Hillary was going to Gitmo And now they're running the FBI and whether they're in on it or the deep state is clotheslining them, they got to get the fuck out of there and start a podcast.

27:05Half of that administration needs to start a podcast. Pam Bondi, I will email you the mics to buy. You're out. It's time to go. It's time to go. They took people who had podcasts and put them in control of the government. So either they're compromised or the fucking factions of the deep state are fucking shoveling shit on these people at an amazing pace. Because they're incapable of delivering anything. They appear to be fools when they go on a show. They appear to be a fool. No one likes a fool unless the fool is aiming to be a fool. Someone with wacky glasses, something like that. But if you are somebody who is running the FBI and you can't articulate a clear sentence, you have to go.

28:09I don't care if you're loyal. You've lost the trust of the voters. You must go. They got a clean house over there. Fire a lot of people. You have to fire a lot of people. I know you don't like that Now here's the good news The guy in charge likes firing Some would say he owns that term You're fired

28:33Tim Dillon:He probably tried to copyright it You gotta release everything you've got And fire these people Unless it's just not going to go well It's not going to go well It's a blackmail operation We know it He was laundering money We know that. He made money disappear. That was probably his main thing. Sex was a part of it. He had lots of powerful people. He had information on a lot of powerful people. And he allowed intelligence agencies to access that information. CIA, MI6, Mossad, all these different intelligence agencies are largely crime syndicates who have existing relationships with each other. They work with each other.

29:21Tim Dillon:And then one will recruit somebody and then someone's a double agent and a triple agent. You got to release everything you have. That world is shadowy and murky. And I don't know if the information I got was true. What the fuck do I know? I'm sitting there at a dinner. I'm telling you that is what is believed by people in the administration who they themselves may be getting lied to. I don't know. They don't know. Everyone makes fun of me for going, oh, you said that they would be killed genuinely at the dinner it came up. No one believes the crooks thing. No one believes that. No one believes that.

29:59Tim Dillon:That this is just a random kid that had no prior relationship to anybody and he was just able to fly a drone over a rally and climb on a thing. No one believes that. No one believes Epstein killed himself. People believe he was murdered or he was switched out. And he's now a server at Mitchell's Ocean Club in Ohio, in Columbus. Which is the original restaurant that started Ocean Prime. It's a great restaurant. And Cameron Mitchell, the owner of that, wrote a book called, the answer is yes, it doesn't matter what the question is. And that was about restaurants, hopefully. But the point is, we don't know what's going on, so you have to release everything.

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31:58Tim Dillon:And they all knew that. They all knew that. This is Trump's tweet. Based on the ridiculous amount of publicity given to Jeffrey Epstein, I've asked Attorney General Pam Bondi to produce any and all pertinent grand jury testimony subject to court approval. This scam perpetuated by the Democrats should end right now. Trump believes that connecting him to Epstein is a Democrat scam hoax, whatever. Prove it. You got to release everything. I know it'll be uncomfortable. It's going to be uncomfortable. It's going to be uncomfortable to release all the things. it's just an uncomfortable reality sometimes you are friends with someone and they're a human trafficker that's what it is to be rich explain that to people tell them that what it is to be rich is to be best friends sometimes with a human trafficker satanic pedophile you don't even know it you just know that you both like boats to be rich is to be friends with people who are implicated in the murders of their wives the trafficking of children, coups, drug running, narco trafficking, arms dealing, false flag operations.

33:14It's this is what it is to be rich. It's not for everyone. I've always said that. I've always said it's not for everyone. To be rich is not to be around school teachers, good people who teach the kids all day. here's your pass out these folders of your homework that's not what it is i have a little bit of money now not even a lot i haven't spoke to a firefighter in six years i don't even know where they are cops firefighters teachers who are these people i go to dinner with people i'm pretty sure want to kill me they always choose a nice restaurant that's where i go and it's near my home but i i'm friends with people now i'm pretty sure or on an assignment to kill me.

34:00Truly, it's what happens when you have a little bit of money. I don't even have a lot of money. But a little bit of money, unfortunately, you get a set of friends, and they're all predominantly morally questionable, and you don't know them. Rich people are private. The middle class isn't. The middle class is always telling you about the fights they've had with their husband or wife. They're fat kids that won't get it together. Their daughter who's pissed them off because she hasn't filled out her college application. Well, we're not going to tour the schools with her if she doesn't get on it. They're always vomiting their lives to you, but the rich are quiet.

34:38They are quietly drowning the chef in the Martha's Vineyard pot. Get in the fucking water. Quietly. They don't bring it up. Explain that to people, Donald. Go out and say to them, sometimes you just end up best friends with someone who's trafficking children. And it's because you both, you know, they're fun. Here's the thing with human traffickers. They're fun. Are you telling me you don't think Ghislaine Maxwell was fun? There's not one photo of Ghislaine Maxwell where she doesn't look like the funnest person that fucking ever lived. And that doesn't make me happy. I don't like that. Yeah, she's a satanic pedophile.

35:18I get it. She's evil. They're both evil. Sometimes rich people are evil. Duh. she's massaging his feet on a plane. The bitch played her position. She was fun. The woman was fun. Look at how relaxed he looks. The point is, you got to explain to people that this is unfortunately part, the people at the top of society are in, they're into shit and they're involved in shit.

35:58but you got to show everyone that you're not involved in it. So you got to release it. You can be at a party with someone. You can shake a hand. You can hang out with someone even, but you need to prove that you are not in any way associated with this part of this man. Get that a pick away of the foot, please. And her. You have to show the world that You can say I made an oopsie I made an oopsie You can say that I took a ride on a plane That I shouldn't have been I thought he was just a whack Thought he was a wacko He was a silly billy Maybe that's what you say Go he was a silly billy He was a daffy duck.

36:59But you got to show people you weren't raping children. That's what you have to show people. I don't even care if he laundered a little bit of the money. No one does. No one does. Donald, if that's what you're worried about, no one cares. It's okay. If he laundered some of your money, even a lot of your money. if he laundered a lot of your money. Because that's not what people are thinking. God, it would be fun if he just laundered some of your goddamn money. Just say that. Say that. Say I got a casino as a cash business. He laundered some money. Say it. Say it now. That's not impeachable. Who cares?

37:43He laundered some money. God damn it. Say that. Please, we want it to be that. that's what people want it to be. I mean, of course, a lot of people don't want it to be that, but I don't want Clinton fucking the kids either, even though that's not, you know, there's a fucking breadcrumb trail that isn't ideal.

38:04Tim Dillon:But I don't want any of our presidents to be having sex with children. This is not my idea of a good time. Now, that unfortunately seems to be more than likely something that has happened. so you need to prove that you did not do that please God just say he laundered the money he became my friend because he knew how to make large sums of money disappear I didn't want to pay taxes I didn't want to pay these taxes people are okay with that people will be okay with that just say you stole money Jesus please just come out and say I stole my he stole the money with me I was just he was laundering my money I wasn't fucking the kids he was laundering my money scream it have a press conference and go Jeffrey Epstein laundered my money and I and that was wrong and that was wrong It was wrong what he did with the laundering of my money.

39:13But here's all the files. I didn't do anything else. It was just about money. That would be nice. That would be ideal.

39:28Something's going on. I don't know what it is. Something's happening. the intelligence community isn't a monolith they're not any one thing so there's people in the CIA that do not like Israel and there are people that love it there is an opposing there are opposing factions in all of these places people go well why was Epstein even arrested if it's a whole thing. People in those agencies, some of them want justice, truly.

40:09Tim Dillon:And when they're presented with a case and there are witnesses, they do what you should do as a cop. You arrest the bad guy. But then when it gets to the legal level and Alexander Acosta is told, I was told to not take it any further with Epstein because he, quote, belonged to intelligence. That's an anonymous quote. That someone else said, Alexander Acosta said, and was given to Vicky Ward at Vanity Fair, who is a credible reporter. I don't think she's making stuff up, but she got an anonymous quote. Get Alexander Acosta. Get him on the stand. Get him on the stand.

40:53Because we know that something is rotten here. We know that. And please God Let it be that he laundered A little bit of your money Oh he laundered My money I don't Fuck the kids Come on I was a casino guy We had a lot of cash And he laundered the money Maybe that's it Huh? We don't know lesser of two evils or nothing or nothing illegal happened even better he did nothing illegal I was friends with him and he did a legal thing because Jeffrey Epstein is like

41:43Tim Dillon:they're doing all these things he's a Wall Street guy but here's the other thing no one knew how he made any of his money he had like one client it was Adnan Khashoggi Jamal Khashoggi the guy who the Saudis killed in that embassy was I think Adnan Khashoggi's brother or son but I don't know he was related to him in some way Adnan Khashoggi was Epstein's client like Epstein was supposedly this guy who had all of this money the largest residence in Manhattan and nobody knew how he got any of that money and nobody had ever worked for him he didn't have like he wasn't like Stephen Cohen who owns the Mets who the show Billions is based on, who has a hedge fund in Connecticut,.72, and there's a bunch of people that work there, and there's people that have worked with Stephen Cohen and can talk about Stephen Cohen.

42:35Tim Dillon:He's a legendary stock trader. There's articles written about Stephen Cohen. Every article about Epstein's like, who is he? What's he doing? But go to the VH1, see if UK, oh yeah, Jeffrey Epstein, international money man of mystery, terrific guy, Donald Trump booms from a speakerphone. He's a lot of fun to be with. And maybe that was true. So this whole thing here This was an article from what year? 2002 2002, they're writing about Jeffrey Epstein Listen to this, ready? He's pals, and this is New York Magazine This is the magazine of the, you know, chattering class The smart set You know, the bold face names The glitterati He's pals with a parcel of Nobel Prize winning scientists to CEOs like Leslie Wexner of the limited socialite Ghislaine Maxwell, even Donald Trump.

43:28Tim Dillon:But it wasn't until he flew Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, and Chris Tucker to Africa on his private Boeing 727 that the world began to wonder who he is. Jeffrey Epstein, international money man of mystery. And this is an article, and you can all read it. And it's funny. It's in hindsight, it's one of the funniest articles that you'll ever read. You know, he comes with cash to burn, a fleet of airplanes, and a keen eye for the ladies. That's the first line. It's a life full of question marks. Epstein is said to run$15 billion for wealthy clients. Yet aside from limited founder Leslie Wexner, his client list is closely held secret.

44:10Tim Dillon:A former Dalton math teacher, he maintains a peripatetic salon of brilliant scientists, yet possesses no bachelor's degree. For more than 10 years, he's been linked to Manhattan-London society figure Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of the mysteriously deceased media titan Robert Maxwell. Robert Maxwell, yet he lives the life of a bachelor, logging six hours a year in his various planes as he scours the world. Like, it's a Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous thing. At QVC, shopping is more than just checking out. It's discovering something new every day. Start with today's special value. Then explore exciting finds across the brands and categories you love.

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46:42Tim Dillon:See if you can get on Instagram. They did, VH1 did like the fabulous life of billionaires. There used to be these shows on TV, by the way, before people were like, you know, in the financial position where they were considering eating their cat. They used to watch shows like the fabulous life of, you know? And it would just be, it's a rage bait. But people would like it back then. And you would just watch really rich people do rich shit. Let's watch a little bit of this. And VH1 has pulled this, you know, obviously for obvious reasons. But this was a, this was a, go to the one that's three minutes.

47:24Tim Dillon:And this is something that VH1 had aired about Jeffrey Epstein. And again, it's unintentionally hilarious now in hindsight. Let's watch. in the next hour we'll tour the hedgerow mega homes they're buying with all that hedge fund cash but not quite as much as financier jeffrey epstein jeff was a high school math teacher until he traded his blackboard for the big board in 1976 eventually launching his own exclusive finance firm for billionaire clients. But he just couldn't keep out of the classroom. So when he was shopping for a new house, he bought himself an entire schoolhouse. And transformed it into the largest single residence in all of Manhattan at a whopping 51 ,000 square feet.

48:20By the way, pause this for a second.

48:21Tim Dillon:There had to be people who knew he was a pedophile who saw this and were like, this is amazing. You know what I mean? Like, there are people that obviously for this guy's entire life knew he was a pedophile. And victims of his who are watching VH1 saw this. Like, literally, people that he had victimized turned on VH1, you know, to watch, I don't know, a Tony Braxton music video. And they're watching Jeffrey Epstein where they're like, he couldn't stay out of the classroom. He bought himself a whole school. And there's people who are like, yeah, I know he raped me in it. Yeah, I'm well aware of that.

49:001 ,000 square feet. Oh, yeah. The school cost about$20 million, and he's dropped$10 million just renovating it. It has incredible bells and whistles, closed-circuit televisions, a heated sidewalk out front, so the snow melts. But only one man truly rules the Wall Street skies. because for former school teacher turned billionaire Jeffrey Epstein, one private plane won't do. He's got a small fleet, a Gulfstream 4, a Cessna, and a Boeing 727. By the way, stop for a minute. Do you realize how important Hollywood is in just narratives?

49:44Tim Dillon:Do you know how important it is that they no longer have the ability to do this? Like you can't just do this without any pushback or without anybody on the internet challenging what conclusions you come to. This is a puff piece going, he's a Wall Street legend. And by the way, no company, no employees, nobody that has ever said they worked for the guy. A couple of journalists are like, this isn't adding up. And VH1 just runs this whole thing where they're like, he's a genius. this guy was a math teacher and it's like Goodwill hunting. He was a math teacher. Now he's a Wall Street legend. He's a math teacher.

50:29Tim Dillon:So it's Goodwill hunting. They didn't realize it was Goodwill hunting for children. But that's what it was. You had the ability to just project this image of a mysterious guy who had all these connections. And by the way, that would never work anymore. because we know what mysterious means. Mysterious means you're just, you're having sex with children on an island. I mean, there's no, by the way, you used to be able to say somebody was mysterious and it was like some kind of compliment. You'd be like, wow, he's mysterious. We don't know what he's doing now. Use that word. You go, yeah, keep him away from my house.

51:09Tim Dillon:Mystery now is bad. It is bad. Like celebrity people like celebrities over because there's no more mystique. There's no more mystery. It's like, yeah, because mystery now means people think, oh, I guess you're having sex with children. That's mystery. I guess you're laundering money for a human trafficking operation. Like, so it's amazing to me that they're running this puff piece, this positive, you know, piece talking about the glamorous life of this human trafficking. And you would never know. You'd be sitting on your couch going Because that's what Wall Street is By the way to most people Like a lot of finance is fake Truly And most people just believe that They're like I didn't have the right connections I didn't go to the right schools They don't even try to understand this crap I remember that during the mortgage crisis When they were trying to explain credit default swaps On Fox And they were like well the credit defaults And people were like fuck this you're all crooks because it's structured finance, lots of it, is fake.

52:22It is largely a science of what most people would call outright criminality. And so when they used to run pieces like this, nobody would think anything of it. They'd go, yeah, he's just a guy on Wall Street,

52:39Tim Dillon:and he's making gobs of money doing God knows what. But little do they know, this is actually an evil, cruel, sadistic monster. And you're talking about the renovation he's doing to his house, his schoolhouse that he's living in in Manhattan. Keep going. And with, of course, an in-flight trading room. He has a Boeing 727. I'm just wondering now, what do you need a commercial size airliner for? Believe us, it comes in handy when you've got powerful friends to fly around. When Bill Clinton organized a week-long tour of Africa in 2002, Jeff gave him a ride in his personal 727 and took actors Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker along for the trip.

53:33Now, for former President Clinton, it was a chance to investigate the problems of AIDS in Africa. And for Epstein, it was a chance to hang out with some of his big shot friends. Jet setting with Bill.

53:43Tim Dillon:I love, by the way, I love the idea of that. I love the idea of Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein gassing up the jet and going to investigate AIDS in Africa. And it's just like an amazing, like he's like, let me call Jeffrey Epstein. Let's go find out what this AIDS is about. And then Spacey's there. But Spacey, by the way, was like, put it all out. Spacey's like, I haven't done anything. Put it out. Put it out. At QVC, shopping is more than just checking out. It's discovering something new every day. Start with today's special value. Then explore exciting finds across the brands and categories you love.

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55:12Tim Dillon:Now, the late show with Stephen Colbert is being canceled. And people are angry. Trump, it's breaking out that he is suing Murdoch over this story. People are angry. Late show with Stephen Colbert. Supposedly, they're citing a financial decision. but people are saying that it's because Colbert criticized CBS while willing to settle a lawsuit with Donald Trump. So people are going out, like Bernie Sanders, I think, just came out and put out a, if you go to Bernie's Instagram, I believe he put out a statement saying that this decision is because Stephen Colbert had the temerity to criticize.

55:53Tim Dillon:You bring it up, Bernie. He's just doing ads for Calci. Bernie's like, do you think Maxwell will testify? Go to Calci. You can create your own market. CBS's billionaire owners pay Trump$16 million to settle a bogus lawsuit while trying to sell the network to Skydance. Stephen Colbert, an extraordinary talent. He was. And the most popular late-night host, not true. It's Gutfeld, to be honest. Whatever you think about anything, that is the truth. Slams the deal. Days later, he's fired. You think this is a coincidence? No. Here's the thing. Late night feels like it's on its way out. And could this have made CBS make their decision quicker?

56:31Tim Dillon:Sure. Are we going to have late night shows in five years? I really don't know. It doesn't seem like we are. Doesn't seem like we're three years. There's people that go on late night. You know who they are. There's a lot of people that go on late night. No one really knows who they are. And so the host is doing like, banter with someone who the audience doesn't know who they are and they've never seen the show they're on and no one knows what's happening so no one knows what's going on not everyone obviously there's people that people know but these people come on late night and the host is like hey hey hey we got the new star at carolina blue here you know and they're like give it up for Jasmine Mitchell Stein.

57:16And, you know, she's, the girl will come on and she'll be like, Stephen, such a fan. Love you. And he's like, this show is great. No one's heard of the show. No one has heard of the show in the audience. He's like, now this show, tell us about the show because it's amazing. This show you're on, everyone loves this show. It's called Carolina Blue. And she's like, yeah, it's about the blue family in Carolina. They're super, they're super uptight. And then one summer everything threatens to be unraveled by a really wild secret. And he's like, and people can't get enough of this show. And the audience is sitting there.

57:58They don't know what's happening. The show might as well be fake. The show might as well not exist. No one knows who the person is. What did I call her? Mitchell Stein. What was her name? What name did I just say? Carmen Sarah? Jody. Did I say Jody? I don't think so. Do you remember what I said?

58:15Tim Dillon:No. You have a broken brain. But it doesn't matter what I said because it's every single guest on that show, for the most part, unless they're like famous, no one really knows who they are or what they're doing there. And he's like, so this show is amazing. It's an amazing show, and it's on Hulu Plus, right? That's where it's on? She's like, yeah, so if you upgrade your Hulu to Hulu Plus, you can watch Carolina Blue. And he's like, now the first season was in 2021, and season two is premiering in 2027, right? So it's a six-year gap, but we're revisiting a small beachside town in Carolina. No one knows.

59:07and the audience are just sitting there. And the audience are all people that are just in New York City and someone goes, go see Colbert. And they know who Colbert is. And they know the Ed Sullivan Theater and many of them grew up watching David Letterman. And America's all about celebrities. That's why people like from Sweden come here. It's not to eat our poison buckets of poison dough that we make our bread from. It's because they really want to see a celebrity. and they want to see how rich and fat we all are. That's why they come here. They got to see America. They got to see America. How rich are they?

59:43How fat are they? How amazing is New York? They want to see a real city, not like an ancient city or, you know what I mean?

59:51Tim Dillon:And they're traffickers in Sweden and stuff. It's like all the royals and really rich, creepy people. It's a May 24 movie. But our people that are human traffickers are like not even hiding. They're like barely hiding it. So that impresses them. And they're like, they're rich and fat and they're pedophiles. Don't even hide it. So they come to see all of this circus of America. And then they're in the Ed Sullivan Theater. And they're like, who's coming out tonight? J-Lo? And it's like a comedian with 8 ,700 followers who's on a show on Amazon that no one's watched. and he's like so now tell us what it is was like to grow up uh as a non you were so now you were non-binary in Oklahoma tell us about that because that's the premise of this show right the show is that you're you're non-binary in Oklahoma but you're also like one of the top poker players in the world, but no one knows you're non-binary from Oklahoma because it's all online, right?

1:01:01And the people in the audience, like, we just want to see pedophiles or J-Lo or fat people. We came to America. It was a long flight. It was a really long flight. We just want to see pedophiles, fat people, or J-Lo. They want to watch a celebrity just smack a minority in the face like an immigrant. That's what they want. They want to see J-Lo take a garbage can and like the dream of someone that comes here from a Scandinavian country, one of them. If you come to America from Norway, your dream is you go to the Ed Sullivan Theater, J-Lo comes out and then as you're leaving you look down an alley and you see her take a garbage can and there's a little Mexican woman and J-Lo puts the can on her.

1:01:49and for whatever reason, you don't even know what this woman did to draw the ire of J-Lo but now this little Mexican woman's got a can on her and she stumbles into the other building

1:01:59Tim Dillon:and she hits herself she knocks herself out and she's just rolling with the can and then J-Lo gets in the black car and drives away that's the dream did this lawsuit make them go hey, let's get rid of Trump. I mean, let's get rid of Colbert because he bothered Trump. Sure, I don't doubt it. I don't doubt that that's a possibility. You know? Bernie Sanders, go to Calci.com. Bernie Sanders, does he have his betting market on Calci? I'm having fun on there. Will Trump release any of the Epstein files this year? Hmm. Will Ghislaine Maxwell testify? 20 % chance. I would say it's a little higher than 20, but not that much higher.

1:02:56Tim Dillon:I would say it's a little higher than 20, but not that much higher. But I will say this. I will say this. The people that I spoke to at the dinner know they have a problem. They know they have a real problem. They know that the base is angry. The people that elected them are angry. They are aware of that. They get it. And they know that the best, the thing that needs to happen here is Bondi needs to be fired. And Ghislaine should testify. And people know that you need to release everything. You know? They know that. I don't know if that's going to happen. And I don't know if any of what I was told is true.

1:03:42Tim Dillon:But it does stand to reason that these tapes are not with Pam Bondi, who's a buffoon. And that these tapes, and I'm sure they exist, are somewhere else if they haven't been destroyed. They're either with a foreign intelligence service or our own or both. There's some kind of dead man switch on something. I don't know. I lack the ability to know. but the people I've spoken to, did they get it? They understand that this is the problem. I'm not going to say who they are. It's not fair to say who they are. I will not say that. We had a nice time. We had steaks. We had some salad, and it was nice. I won't say who they are.

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