In short
Alex Jones and Tim Dillon discuss an alleged “Epstein cover-up,” claiming the Epstein case was used for intelligence-linked blackmail and money laundering, and that the Trump administration is either incompetent or pressured into suppressing evidence. They argue Trump’s public panic and shifting statements reflect being “set up” with a manipulated FBI file and “poison pills,” and they call for full disclosure, including Ghislaine Maxwell testimony and release of grand jury transcripts and video evidence.
Guest backgrounds
Alex Jones is a long-running broadcaster and conspiracy theorist. Tim Dillon is a comedian and podcast host.
Key claims
Axios/Justice Department leaks allegedly contradict court evidence about Epstein’s death and trafficking. Jones claims Maxwell’s conviction proves trafficking, while Trump and allies deny it. He alleges intelligence involvement (Mossad/MI6/CIA) via Robert Maxwell and Ghislaine’s network, and suggests Netanyahu’s meetings coincided with Trump’s policy “180.” He also claims powerful figures (e.g., Bill Gates, Howard/Ludnick) are implicated via flight logs and “compromising” material.
Notable examples
“10,000 hours of video” claim; FBI New York file transfer/resignations; calls to force Maxwell and Alex Acosta to testify before Congress; mentions Palantir/tech surveillance as a related power-control theme.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Trump Administration and Epstein
0:45 to 3:54
The hosts discuss the Trump administration's ties to the Epstein cover-up and the implications of recent actions.
“We want to get your read on what is going on because, you know, from the outside, the Trump administration campaigns on exposing this cover-up, blowing the lid off this cover-up.”
Money Laundering and Intelligence Operations
3:54 to 6:13
Exploration of Epstein's connections to money laundering and intelligence agencies, including his relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell.
“And my loyalties to the truth, I'm actually autistic about it.”
Cover-Ups and Political Manipulation
6:13 to 8:09
Discussion on the political manipulation surrounding Epstein's case and the implications for Trump's administration.
“And then now the Democrats have honed in on this.”
FBI Whistleblowers and the Epstein Files
8:09 to 14:00
Insights on the FBI's handling of Epstein's files and the potential implications for Trump and his administration.
“And we know some people in the Trump administration have been heavily implicated.”
Trump, Netanyahu, and the Epstein Connection
14:00 to 20:40
Discussion of Trump's shifts in policy influenced by Netanyahu and connections to Epstein.
“I know from behind the scenes sources were not attacking Iran months ago.”
Ghislaine Maxwell and Political Accountability
20:40 to 26:00
Exploring the implications of Ghislaine Maxwell's imprisonment and calls for accountability.
“which is completely crazy by the president of the united states and again i'm not a paranoid Israel hater, but their activity over the last six months is completely insane.”
Technology, Surveillance, and Power Structures
26:00 to 28:00
Examining the role of tech companies in surveillance and their influence on government.
“And he also says, you know, we need to do what I'm doing to stop the Antichrist.”
The Role of Palantir and Surveillance
28:00 to 29:12
Discussing the implications of companies like Palantir in society and surveillance.
“And I think a lot of those people would probably want to create something like that in our society.”
The Epstein Cover-Up and Mossad's Role
29:12 to 31:21
Exploring the claims of Mossad's involvement in the Epstein case and its ramifications.
“Do we think that this is a watershed moment for the United States and, you know, Israel?”
Obama's Background and Allegations
31:21 to 33:50
Analyzing assertions about Obama's upbringing and connections to intelligence agencies.
“It's all about getting rid of the deep state and Trump joining with it and defending it.”
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Secrets and Control in Politics
33:50 to 36:28
Delving into the nature of political control and the impact of personal secrets.
“Obama says in Dreams of My Fathers, he was like my father.”
Kennedy, Vaccines, and Big Pharma
36:28 to 37:42
Discussing Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s stance on vaccines and the influence of pharmaceutical companies.
“I don't like to have to come tell the truth on air and have them spin it and use it against Trump and MAGA because MAGA is great overall and is definitely a force for good.”
Concerns About Public Health and Policy
37:42 to 39:54
Addressing the challenges regarding public health policies and their oversight.
“I have the head of Rasmussen polling on today.”
Political Alliances and Challenges
39:54 to 42:00
Examining the dynamics of political alliances and the challenges faced by the current administration.
“I mean, the big HHS, Robert Malone, inventor of mRNA that valiantly exposed it all, he came out today and said, no, I've seen the documents.”
Trump and the Epstein Cover-Up
42:00 to 45:26
Discussion on Trump's involvement with Epstein and the implications of deep state influence.
“and then it just started going sideways.”
Accountability and Integrity Issues
45:26 to 46:03
Exploration of the need for accountability within the justice system and government.
“And, and, and, and maybe depose Alex Acosta and let, let's find out who told him that.”
Alex Jones Takes a Break
46:03 to 46:58
A light-hearted exchange as Alex Jones takes a bathroom break during the discussion.
“but at the government and the justice system in this country.”
Critique of Trump's Leadership
48:42 to 55:51
In-depth analysis of Trump's leadership decisions concerning Epstein and domestic policies.
“Alex Jones, I was just shitting on an advertiser who dropped me because— No, you were talking about Athletic Greens.”
The Production of Political Events
56:00 to 59:31
Explore the theatrical aspects of political speeches and events.
“Thomas Matthew Crooks, or, you know, he had no online footprint.”
Netanyahu's Strategic Objectives
59:31 to 1:03:24
Discuss Netanyahu's motives and the implications for Israel and the region.
“Before you go, what do you think Netanyahu wants?”
Energy Resources and Geopolitics
1:03:24 to 1:06:39
Understand the significance of natural gas resources in geopolitical strategies.
“25 years, serious heart problems, indicted, he stays in power by having crises.”
The Mechanics of War and Influence
1:06:39 to 1:10:06
Analyze how wars are leveraged by governments for political and financial gain.
“The vice president said he thought that was a very big possibility.”
The Staged Nature of Wars
1:10:06 to 1:14:14
Discussion on how historical wars were manipulated for political gain.
“And now that's how the real world works.”
Nuclear War Threats and Historical Context
1:14:14 to 1:15:53
Examination of the current threat of nuclear war in the context of historical events.
“Strangelove is a documentary of what almost happened.”
Nuclear War Threats and Historical Context
1:15:59 to 1:16:19
Examination of the current threat of nuclear war in the context of historical events.
“You ever get the feeling the city walls closing in, the concrete jungle suffocating your soul?”
Nuclear War Threats and Historical Context
1:16:22 to 1:16:58
Examination of the current threat of nuclear war in the context of historical events.
“Search by acreage, location, the kind of hunting or fishing you dream of.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Tim Dillon:If you like YouTube, you'll love YouTube Premium. Hi, I'm Sean Evans from Hot Ones, and I want to tell you about YouTube Premium. It has offline downloads, so you can watch without Wi-Fi. Background play, so you can lock your phone and it still plays, baby. Oh, and it is completely ad-free. Yes, I said it, ad-free. Try YouTube Premium for two months free at youtube.com slash premium. Trial eligibility varies, terms apply, cancel anytime. Alex Jones with us, legendary broadcaster, friend of the show. I've been lucky enough to speak to him about a lot of the crazy shit that has gone on the past 10 years.
0:42Tim Dillon:And, you know, we'll just come right out with it. We want to get your read on what is going on because, you know, from the outside, the Trump administration campaigns on exposing this cover-up, blowing the lid off this cover-up. and then they get an office, and now it seems like they're part of this cover-up. So what, in your estimation, has happened? Well, all I can do is observe from the outside. I have a lot of sources. It's been inside baseball and what's happening. But the fact I know is this. Fifteen days ago, they leaked to Axios, the Justice Department, this. Epstein didn't get murdered and there wasn't human trafficking and there wasn't any blackmail and case closed.
1:39And that flies in the face of the court cases, the evidence, the intelligence connections, everything we know. And then I came out on that Monday, 14 days ago, and I said, this isn't Pam Bondi. And I'm not defending her. I agree. She's in over her head. Like you said, she should go back to policing jet skis in Florida. But then he comes out the next day and says on True Social, no, we need the FBI to move on. I told him to do this. The next day in a press conference, he chews out the reporter when they're talking about all these issues, saying how dare you desecrate the graves of dead kids in Texas with the floods.
2:12Shut up. And it's uncharacteristic for Trump. He looks scared. He looks concerned. And then all the other True Social posts about if you ask questions, you're with the Democrats. and this is all a Democrat made up hoax and you're just idiots. When all his surrogates had promised they'd bring this out, he talked about bringing it out. So this is Harry Carey. This is seppuku. For those that don't know in Japanese, that means suicide. And I had the head of Rasputin polling on, the best polling agency, the most accurate on record today. He said Trump has lost 14 points with independents, five points with his main base.
2:47Like Steve Bannon said a week ago, that'll lose him before Rasputin reported it. His dead reckoning was right. 40 seats probably in the midterms in the year and a half. This is Trump self-harming. And from all my research, you know, he knew Epstein, there were socialites, all that, but they would have already used this to deep say they had something. The Jane Doe's they brought out turned out weren't even real people. You know, they'd said that Melania was a hooker that Epstein introduced to her at a modeling agency. We looked into that. It was Trump's modeling agency. That wasn't true. So they're kind of regurgitating all that on one hand.
3:21So why did Trump act so panicked during the headlights and come out and say, there is no list. Okay, there is a list, but you're still an idiot if you look at it. Okay, we'll have Pam Bondi release the grand jury transcripts from Ghislaine Maxwell that Comey's daughter ran the cover up on. And the Epstein case six years ago where he died in jail. So you couldn't do a bigger Streisand effect. You couldn't come out and say, I'm more guilty than what he did. And my loyalties to the truth, I'm actually autistic about it. I can't, even if I want Trump to succeed and Democrats are my sworn enemy trying to put me in prison, I'm just like having to report this, that this is beyond insane.
4:10Yeah. And it's like Trump blowing his feet off with a 12-gauge shotgun.
4:15Tim Dillon:Well, we know that this was not only a blackmail operation, but it was also a money laundering operation. And we know that Jeffrey Epstein was working for billionaires like Les Wexner and many others. And we know that there's been a lot of talk about the connections that Epstein had to intelligence and moving money around the world, making sums of money disappear. Is it a complete coincidence that a lot of this seemed to happen around the time that Benjamin Netanyahu paid a visit to the White House? Well, as usual, Tim Dillon, you're very informed, not just a comedian, and you've nailed it. I don't want to attack Israel.
5:03I'm not a big Israel hater, but Netanyahu is, in my view, the villain of the last 25 years in Israel, in and out of power. and definitely is the cliche of Israel trying to manipulate the United States' internal politics and foreign policy, particularly the Middle East. So definitely Netanyahu's heavily involved. Ghislaine Maxwell, who was convicted of human trafficking, though the new memos, and Trump says there is none of that, well, then how is she convicted? Her dad, Robert Maxwell, was on record Mossad, buried Mount of Olives with military honors and MI6 and Russian intelligence reportedly, fell off his yacht when all this came out.
5:45And just like when he died decades ago, all of a sudden, billions of dollars was sucked out of his bank accounts. And so from my evidence and research, it's pretty conclusive. Epstein was a junior to Ghislaine who took over the family MI6, CIA, Mossad business because at that level, they're all interconnecting. And it was more than just trafficking underage girls. That was kind of like a side hors d 'oeuvre or a little rider. The larger issue was money laundering. And then now the Democrats have honed in on this. I said months ago and weeks ago that Trump needs to not just call for the grand jury stuff to be released or the stuff from her trial or the trial that ever happened because Epstein died in custody there in New York in that detention center.
6:30We should demand the billions. It was$1.1 billion right after he died, but it was actually over a billion when he was in custody five and a half years ago in New York that was sucked out of his business account. And so we know that's at the Treasury Department. So now Senator Wyden and others, as I predicted a month ago and two weeks ago, before this broke, I said Trump should release it because I could see that's where it's going. Where did the billions of dollars go right before and right after he died? And so I agree with you very astute. I was going to make that point. This isn't even so much about human trafficking as it is about the money laundering that was going on.
7:10And then you've got Bill Barr, whose dad, Donald Barr, ran the school. That Epstein at 20 got hired with no credentials to be the top math teacher. And then Barr was OSS CIA. His dad, Donald Barr. Then Barr was CIA, kind of the head of Iran-Contra operations at the White House. and then his dad, Donald Barr, writes a book about space relations, about aliens on a planet that kidnapped human girls to rape them and then they train humans to enjoy it and join them in the raping of children. This is beyond crazy and he hires Epstein to do all this. And so, yeah, Trump had beauty pageants and Trump had casinos and Trump had golf courses and Trump was involved in sporting events.
7:54And so I thought, well, they ever had anything on Trump, they would have brought it out as they tried with a bunch of nothing burgers in 2016 and 2020. But now that he acted like this, I think the jury's out. But where the jury is not out is on the majority of people on the plane, on the flight logs, are Democrats, are big power brokers like Bill Gates. And we know some people in the Trump administration have been heavily implicated. I'm not going to name names. and so you nailed it when you brought up Netanyahu. So let me, if you've got time here.
8:30Tim Dillon:I have to, we have all the time in the world. I just want to add, when Bondi said we have 10 ,000 hours of video, she said we have 10 ,000 hours of video. I had dinner last week with the vice president. He told me that that was commercial pornography. they do not have videos of any powerful person in a compromising position. That's the party line that they're going with. If that's the case, why would Pam Bondi call it evidence? Why would she say it's evidence? She's not an idiot. She's the attorney general. Why would she say she has files on her desk if none of these implicated anybody? it just feels like they're covering something for sure 100 % and I feel like they're telling a story and the story doesn't make any sense perfectly said so again there's so much data I have it would take 100 hours but we'll go as long as you need here's what I'm trying to say there are two main tracks here.
9:46Okay. Incompetence by Bondi and Patel and Bongino or a mix of that or pure cover-up. But undoubtedly there's a cover-up. So here's what we know from the timeline. And I'm not trying to gonzo journalism write myself into the story. I just do this seven days a week. So I broke most of the different developments that happened in the last six months. So here's what we know. And you give me your conclusion. Trump's surrogate said they're going to release it. They get in. In Marks, they're given this old Epstein information at that press conference with the stupid binders. And a day and a half before that happens, I have O 'Boyle, who is the main, you know, one of the top FBI whistleblowers exposed so much.
10:30And he says, my New York sources say they've got massive Epstein videos and files that the Democrats are suppressing and not giving to Trump. And Bondi's been set up. We're meeting with her tonight. My sources are, and she's going to expose the fact that she's been set up. The next day, she comes out and on the cover sheet of the binder says, this is phase one. I learned there's a lot more in New York with Comey's daughter and Comey running it, which we know control the file the whole time. If they don't give it to us in 24 hours, we're going to go grab it. 24 hours goes by. They go grab it. The head of the FBI in New York resigns.
11:07The guy that said, dig in, don't do it. And then they're given these files. But that's the setup. Obviously, if the Democrats before Trump and after Trump and now control the file and James Comey and Marine Comey controlled it, are they going to leave stuff in that is incriminating? No, it's logical to say they're going to probably drop a dime on themselves. Not that my whistleblower was bad. They're going to drop a dime. Oh, we've really got the real file. So Trump's like, yeah, go get it. Grab it. Get them. They get the file. And then I talked to FBI sources, multiple. It's called Seraph and others.
11:39Showed me the text messages. this is in late March, days after that indeed the way the FBI works, the top of the FBI does do investigations, they get the truckloads out of New York they send it all over the country to field offices and say do what you want then the FBI, we confirm this, looks at it, it's got all this stuff about Trump in it, whether it's true or not, Bondi and them come back and say to Trump it's got all this about you then you see the deer in the headlights interview two months ago with Bongino and Kash Patel on Fox where they look like they're hostages. They're like, no, you can trust us.
12:16He killed himself and Epstein acted alone and didn't do anything. And case closed. And I said this before Trump said it a week and a half ago. I said, Trump has learned, or this is a big possibility, they've spiked it with poison pills. They're not just going to take out bad stuff about them. They're going to add all the innuendo, all the Jane does, all the stuff recycled in. And then Trump comes out on social last Saturday, eight, nine days ago, Saturday before last, and says, hey, they control the file. Not saying Epstein doesn't exist or wasn't bad. That's how the media spun it. He says they put a bunch of bull in there, which I was even able to predict.
12:53So that's one track of what it is and why he acted so scared and hysterical. The other track is he was a big playboy. He was hanging out with Epstein. He was running beauty pageants. Maybe he did some stuff he wasn't supposed to. He had some deep, and now they're bringing it out. So now the jury's out on Trump. Now he's got to be suspect. But the same people that run Crossfire Hurricane, the fake Russiagate, Obama, Clapper, Comey, Brennan, that did all this, who are known fake frauds, who are known to be all over the Epstein file, who are known controlling it on the U.S. side, anything, they tell me suspects, so I don't believe it right away.
13:35Then you bring up Netanyahu, and that's the key. So, anytime Mossad is going to operate like this on domestic soil, they're going to need a CIA agreement and pass. This goes on for decades. And then you've got Maxwell's dad that was MI6, Mossad, on record. And KGB, triple agent, highest level. The rural agent is a triple level, or quadruple level. So, you have Trump, yeah, grab do it. He gets it. Oh my God, I've been set up. Then he's mad at Netanyahu. I know from behind the scenes sources were not attacking Iran months ago. Netanyahu shows up. Suddenly Trump 180s, starts doing whatever Netanyahu wants.
14:17And we know who has the full file of all the hidden cameras and all the stuff at Little Island in the Caribbean at his facility in Zorro Ranch in Mexico in New York. And we had Ehu Barak there photographed dozens of times, you know, in 30-something meetings there in New York. As all of a sudden you get a 180, as soon as Netanyahu shows up, now Trump learns what's in the FBI file. Right after that, then Netanyahu comes and tells him, and I don't believe from my sources, and this is high-level FBI, that it is Trump, but it's people in his administration, including a top financial advisor that's heavily involved.
15:02Trump wants to get his agenda through of jobs, 15 trillion investment coming in, 3 trillion already here. He wants to stop world war three. I'm not defending this. I'm saying the thinking I've been told. Yeah. And so he goes, Oh my God, this is a giant new Russia gate set up. He comes out and says to my list, to his supporters. Would I be crazy when you say,
15:20Tim Dillon:um, a top financial advisor, Are we talking about Epstein's neighbor? We are. Okay. Interesting. And that makes sense. Here's how informed you are. And I'm not trying to be a main person. Because he may even be innocent. We were talking about Ludnick. That's right. Howard Ludnick. Don't sue me. Kidding. Well, it's just beyond suing. This is like. Yeah. They're going to find me in the pool. Yeah, you're right. Now. No, let's just say, you brought it out. You're smart to figure it out. Nobody else was. I'm sure it's true. Yeah. They're blackmailing him with Ludnick. I've confirmed that from the FBI.
16:01And it's not that Ludnick did anything wrong. But yeah.
16:06Tim Dillon:Here's my question. We have Ghislaine Maxwell sitting in a jail. I believe in Tallahassee in Florida. We have Alex Acosta, who supposedly there was an unsourced or privately sourced, unnamed sourced person that Vicki Ward quoted saying Alex Acosta said, I was told to stand down. Epstein belonged to intelligence. That is why he was not prosecuted. That was the federal, federal, federal prosecutor. Right. To the fullest extent of the law. Why do we not? And by we, I mean the Trump administration, the American people demand that Maxwell testifies in front of Congress and that Alexander Acosta testifies in front of Congress about whatever this operation was.
16:59Tim Dillon:I think me and you have a good idea about what it was, but it's a vile operation. It destroyed the lives of children. No civilized society can exist ignoring things like this. And it also opens up many questions about a financial system that we barely understand that involves oligarchs, criminals, human traffickers, drug smugglers, and our own political class, by the way. This is why Nancy Pelosi has been so quiet about this. Let's be very honest, because she has no problem with, you know, obviously making lots and lots of money and lots of our politicians. I mean, Barack Obama, you know, these$30 million homes in Martha's Vineyard or whatever they are.
17:42Tim Dillon:Why don't we demand that they testify, Alex?
17:49Well, and, you know, Tim, I don't do this with regular people interviewing me. I'm not kissing your ass. I was about to go before you said Ghislaine Maxwell testify. I was about to go to this. So that's where I was going next. Yeah. You know, here's the issue with that. she's in prison for human trafficking and you've got these lawyers connected to Epstein saying months ago Alan Dershowitz, Trump better pardon her and even before Elon came out and said hey Trump's in the list you're never going to see it which then has a lot more credibility now because of this it doesn't mean Trump did anything wrong but he's implicated He's embarrassed by it.
18:34The issue with Ghislaine Maxwell is she's in prison for decades. So you can't trust somebody to testify who has already not implicated other people. But now that she's convicted in prison will, maybe she'll say that I was involved. I'm being sarcastic. But my point is, is that pressure mounts for Ghislaine Maxwell to be released to testify before Congress. I am of the thought that full disclosure is the way to go. From all my research and sources, Trump wasn't actually involved in any of this. And they're going to be able to continue to blackmail if they don't. So I think justice be done by the heavens fall.
19:13But the thinking is, if they implicate all these big tech titans like Bill Gates that was heavily involved in all this, and his wife left him over it and said he should have to answer those questions about saying what he did, if all these Silicon Valley people come out and things, Trump's being told this will crash the stock market. This will bring down America. This is a setup. And I'm not defending that decision, but I can logically from a sick position get it. I agree with you. I think the world will think we're back in business if we actually exercise all this, these demons. This stuff's going on all the place as well.
19:47The EU has been caught in giant pedophile rings of government.
19:49Tim Dillon:This is driving people insane. And I think it's justifiably so that people at the highest levels can get away with stuff like this and that it can be covered up forever. And I think a lot of people... It's the two-tier justice system, right? It's emblematic of everything. Yeah, it's emblematic of everything. What I told Vance, I said, if you don't disclose everything, you're done. I mean, nobody will support you guys. You are fully and completely part of this cover-up if everything doesn't come out. I think it paralyzes their presidency completely. And what did Vance say? he believes he agrees with me he agrees with me you know like it it really is even mike johnson came out a week ago and said release it i mean he agrees with me the the calls are coming from inside the house we know that benjamin netanyahu shows up we we then immediately see an about face which is completely crazy by the president of the united states and again i'm not a paranoid Israel hater, but their activity over the last six months is completely insane.
20:53Tim Dillon:They're bombing churches. They're starving people. They're shooting people that are. They bomb Syria today. Here's the deal. Here's the deal. I've studied who the main threat is the U.S. Communist, China, big financial interest. I'm the guy that everybody said was defending Israel. No, I was just saying they're not the most important bloc. They're varied. But absolutely, because we've knocked out the Democrats to a great extent, because they've cut off the USAID money and the deep state money. Israel with Netanyahu sees a power vacuum and is definitely trying a hostile takeover of the administration.
21:30So that's 100 % going on.
21:32Tim Dillon:Are you worried about these connections with Palantir, with using technology to Palantir technology to merge all of the different departments so that if you have information on you with the IRS, that's now merging with, you know, your arrest record. And if you've attended a protest and whatever the case may be, we see in the UK, people are getting sent to jail for tweets. We see all over the world. And we know, of course, the Chinese social credit score system. This feels a lot like a precursor to that. Steve Bannon has said that he thinks that these tech people are the biggest threat to the stability of the United States going forward because they have their own agendas that they're cloaking in this MAGA movement.
22:23Tim Dillon:Do you share that view? And do you think that Trump has allowed these people to get a little too close and exercise a little too much power in the White House. Yes, I think Palantir is a threat. And then I've been criticized by people that just want to try to make scores by being nuanced about it. Let's explain what's happening. Oracle, who's also in with Trump, which is a bigger threat than Larry Olson, is way bigger of the Palantir, Microsoft and Amazon. People think of Amazon as packages. No, Amazon runs more servers for the CIA and the NSA than anybody than that Microsoft is second. This is like a fact.
23:07People can look this up. They've already integrated all the databases. They already have all that. Peter Thiel and Alex Karp, who said, Alex Karp, I help the EU censor conservatives. You know, my main threat is Christian conservatives just like talking about starting to fight. So I'm not an apologist for Palantir, but to my listeners, I've got to give them a real answer. So you notice the New York Times, the Washington Post last year, we're all about Palantir. And it doesn't mean Palantir isn't an issue. It's that why does everybody know about that? Because the corporate media started it. So Palantir has come to Trump and is a big backer of Vance.
23:44I'm not saying he's bad either. Right. And they have said to Trump, we know how to come in and tell you what's really going on. let us have the ring of Mordor and we will fix all your problems. And my point is they are a small little tech who wants to come in and has the technology to do what's already been done. Right. So the idea that this isn't already integrated, that it is, it is, it is Amazon, Google, and these other groups, Amazon
24:21Tim Dillon:Alphabet, you know, those companies Whatever it is, Meta Yeah, I mean, Alphabet's above Google, exactly So it's Google, it's Google It's Amazon It's all So they're the ones That are currently doing it It's not like it's coming So I just told people in their lexicon It's like you have flashcards for a kid Here's a tiger, here's a bear, here's a bunny rabbit And now they go, here's Palantir Ooh, that's the big takeover No, that's a group that thought with their angles with Trump, they could come in and be put in charge of the thing that's already there. So I'm telling people, no, it's not that it's coming.
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24:59It's already there. Palantir is just as dangerous as Google or as its parent company, Alphabet, or as Microsoft, or as Amazon. It's Microsoft, Google, Amazon. And I'm saying, if you look up the statistics, they're 90 % of it. The grid's already there. Palantir is a usurper, an upstart, a pretender to the throne, trying to come in to give Trump control because the U.S. government's been directing the Googles and the Microsofts and the Amazons to already create a fused system that we already have. Does that make sense?
25:38Tim Dillon:It absolutely makes sense. The reason that Palantir is always a red flag for me is that when Peter Thiel's asked things like, should the human race exist? And he kind of stutters and stammers and doesn't really seem to have a, that one seems easy. And he doesn't really have an answer for that. He's also suggested things like maybe people went to Epstein's Island because they wanted Epstein's advice on their divorce and stuff. It just seems. And he also says, you know, we need to do what I'm doing to stop the Antichrist. Right. So it just feels to me that, yes, they are part of a very large group of companies I don't trust.
26:18Tim Dillon:But it is worth noting that this company is, you know, they want to start helping to surveil Americans more than they already are. I mean, that's sort of, or, or, or help, you know, concentrate the information or help merge. Let's be clear. Oh, you said a key point. You said a key point. Google six, seven years ago, wouldn't even give the Pentagon access to AI, but they give China that. So that's the key you just hit. Palantir is offering to Trump, but like, look at Denver already has US funded license plate scanners. Right. But a month ago when they were going to use them to arrest illegals, they turned it off.
27:00Yeah. Okay. So Palantir is offering to use the grid that's already in place for Trump's aim. So what I'm trying to say is it's not a defensive Palantir. It's that we're way, we're saying we're in the year 2025. We're in the year 2050. I'm saying it's already there. The Palantir thing is a fight about Trump coming and saying, okay, I'll hire you to explain how this works and give me access. I'm saying it's already all there.
27:26Tim Dillon:No, and I understand that. And I think that I, listen, I don't trust Elon Musk. I don't trust Sam Altman I don't trust Mark Zuckerberg it's not because I believe they're inherently evil people although they say some things that are inherently evil I believe their agendas are radically different than if you took an American off the street and said what are the things you value very few of them are going to go we want to terraform Mars and merge with AI and destroy the human race and all of this stuff so I do think that the tech community it's important to have a thriving tech community but it's important to not turn our country into a digital police state or a Chinese-style surveillance state.
28:05Tim Dillon:And I think a lot of those people would probably want to create something like that in our society. You know, that does seem like they would prefer that. Absolutely. I want your viewers and listeners to understand something. Let's just say Palantir is the most evil thing on Earth ever seen. It is the devil. Why do we all know about Palantir? And not the other ones. We don't know. Yes, you're right. We don't know about Microsoft, Google, and Amazon that are 90 plus percent of the grid that's already there. Right. So we're all learning about surveillance and AI and social credit score and biometrics and social credit.
28:45We're already doing it. They're just bidding to get into the trough as a junior. And so I oppose what Palantir is doing. And everyone else. I oppose everyone else. Of course. I'm just saying it's become a distraction into only them.
29:00Tim Dillon:Understood. Disclosure. Your sources, people that you know, how damaging is this if this all comes out? Do we think that this is a watershed moment for the United States and, you know, Israel? Does this come out that this is a, what many people feel it is, which is a Mossad CIA blackmail up? Or is this basically not, we're never going to definitively know that? Or will we, we have a lot of conjecture. We have a lot, it got to my head. That's what I believe it was. there's enough evidence in my book to say that's what it was but is the disclosure not only will it be embarrassing to people but is it going to suggest that one of our allies has been using these types of methods to gain leverage and control over our politicians and is that one of the big reasons that they do not want it out well that's all true i mean look but Monica Lewinsky was a Mossad operative.
30:12Really? Yeah, it's come out. I know. They were tapping the White House. So, and they don't want to hit us on some big corruption deal because a bunch of Israeli operatives are involved in all the corruption with our people as well. Right. They want to hit you on some limited little sexual thing. And so, yeah, I mean, absolutely, Epstein was mainly a Mossad operative. Ghislaine Maxwell, her dad, all Mossad on record. The media just keeps this debate going, is it Mossad? Is it Mossad? Well, he wasn't officially Mossad. Any real operative at the highest level is an operative. People think it was an operative at the lower level.
30:47A lot of times they're the boss. But he himself was just a manager because Lane was the case manager. This has all basically come out. And this is the leverage that Israel is using over Trump right now to do all this. And my information is it's not Trump himself. He's just all this other stuff to try to embarrass him, beauty pageants, you know. flying twice on his plane from New York to Palm Beach. And again, Trump was all release it, release it until he got that meeting with Netanyahu that you nailed. But what's more important is this has captured the public's understanding and imagination. And so it's all about integrity.
31:22It's all about getting rid of the deep state and Trump joining with it and defending it. I had on my show today, Mark Mitchell, who is the hands down, you know, they have the best record daily elections, not distributed around the world from Rasmussen, in polling and you know he said i'm not a republican democrat but i care about the voters and freedom in the future and he said uh i mean again the exact number like 14 points lost with independence it's a collapse six it's a collapse it's a collapse five six points lost his most hardcore base uh i mean this is a disaster is steve bannon without seeing polls we can have
31:59Tim Dillon:it go said we'll lose 40 seats it's an also it's overshadowing another interesting and important story that's that Comey, you know, Brennan, Clapper, all these guys essentially participated in what was kind of an attempted coup with, you know, manufacturing this evidence that Trump was installed by Russia. Yeah, Crossfire Hurricane. And that's the key. That was my whole show today was Crossfire Hurricane is proven. Crossfire Hurricane is confirmed that not just Obama giving orders to Clapper, Brennan, comey before 2016 they knew trump was running they put him under surveillance the documents are out they created the steel dossier they didn't just let the intelligence out and then not report it was fake they created it as tulsi gabbard said last night on fox we already have the documents that's true obama was is a cia operative from birth his mother worked for usa his mother was born in Hawaii.
32:59Tim Dillon:I mean, because Obama weirdly comes up all the time as this guy. And I always think these politicians are middlemen. And I imagine that Barack Obama would be like a similar politician, like a Clinton type, where they know what's going on, but they're not driving it. Yeah. Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton come out of the CIA and the Dixie Mafia and the Chicago Mafia. There's whole films made by Joel Gilbert, which I researched. it's well known. Obama's grandfather was the head of the CIA in Hawaii. His mother was a CIA sex operative. His real father was not in Kenya but was the head of the Communist Party USA head of their major newspapers, Frank Marshall Davis.
33:41Where do you think he was born? If you had to take a guess. He was born in Hawaii. Oh he was? Yeah it was Obama in four different videos when he was a senator saying I was born in Kenya I'm back in my home country is a fake cover story and then that guy that's sub-Saharan Africa that looked nothing like him you look at Frank Marshall Davis it's him and he wrote in Dreams of My Fathers I spent summers with Frank Marshall Davis in Hawaii he was friends with my grandfather he felt like my real father and it's Frank Marshall Davis then his mother and Betty Davis what's that woman with the dark hair the famous bombshell 50s no it's the one that did soft porn it'll pop my head in a minute okay the point is they did that style and in the famous porn that frank marshall davis released in the same house that's in photos of obama with the same couch with the same pictures with his mom and frank marshall davis visiting frank marshall davis it's her with women on the very same uh betty page it's the very same couch and it's in famous private porn collections that his mother was you know that in all of this
34:58Tim Dillon:well she was a famous cia sex operative so you're you're saying that obama is in it from an intelligence family well you said cia baby i mean yeah no that but that's what i feel as well i mean i i i and then and then in fact marshall davis the main publisher of communist newspapers world all over the U.S., is a famous pornographer. Right. Obama says in Dreams of My Fathers, he was like my father. I stayed with him in the summers. He was friends with my grandfather. And his dad's the famous CIA banker. Well, I know people in Chicago that have said that Obama essentially had led kind of a secret double life his entire life.
35:39Tim Dillon:And they were shocked when he was polling so well in the election. obviously he was a brilliant politician but that the media didn't go near any of his secret life the way they didn't go you know there's a lot of people that obviously the media is told to stand down but i know people in chicago these large financial institutions that knew him that were shocked that more details about his private life weren't emerging well yeah and and you know he says every young boy you know needs a gay man to help lead him now i'm not against gay people or of thing but it's yeah i mean it's well known how he's being controlled and so you very astutely said a baby of the cia he is literally a manchurian candidate people with secrets are seemingly the people that always lead us it seems to be whether you're if you're in the closet if you have a problem with your drugs or money or something like that leverage is always being used on different people so to control them because you're compromised a thousand percent so trump in in my estimation has to just just let everything out no matter how embarrassing it is yeah i mean he does and and i mean look the democrats are trying to put me in prison they're openly horrible people trump represents a lot of good constituents i don't want trump to fail you know i got accused by a lot of uh influencers and people in the last few weeks because i'm on every channel and does nothing for me to be on CNN, ABC news.
37:11I care less. They have tiny audiences. I don't like to have to come tell the truth on air and have them spin it and use it against Trump and MAGA because MAGA is great overall and is definitely a force for good. And Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard and Tom Homan. And I mean, they're doing amazing things. And so I don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. I don't do this because I can attack Trump, which I never do. And then, you know, get publicity out of it. I did it because I have to keep my integrity and I don't know if Trump can course correct from this. I have the head of Rasmussen polling on today.
37:44Some of it's bounced back, but you look at bombing Iran, you look at Israel, you look at Kennedy got it where they were to take fluoride out of the water. The DOJ blocked the lawsuit that banned it to keep fluoride in the water. Kennedy blocked basically Goliath estate. The Trump administration's keeping it. It's almost like the Trump admin brought in Kennedy so he can menace the chemical companies and big pharma and then big pharma will just come make bigger donations. And I don't know. I'm going to say something very interesting.
38:18Tim Dillon:I think obviously poison food in America needs to be dealt with. But Kennedy was talking a lot about these vaccines were mandated and had a lot of adverse effects. Pam Bondi is now not following up the Pfizer thing that you maybe know more about than I do, but I saw that previously. Her and the White House Chief of Staff run now, only 10 years ago didn't exist, the biggest consulting firm, and their main client's Pfizer. So Pam Bondi and Susie Wiles, who's the White House Chief of Staff, run a consulting firm, and their biggest client is Pfizer. Well, that's not great. And even today, the lawyers came out, all the people involved, even in Congress, and said that Kennedy's not even being consulted now.
39:13So people get pissed at Kennedy. He's like, yeah, we're banning that MRA shot. And then the White House somehow overrides it. And I'm not, yeah, it's.
39:21Tim Dillon:I think Kennedy, from people that I know, I think Kennedy feels like he's frustrated. I also think, yes, get the poison food out. But also Kennedy was coming in there saying, listen, we had these mandatory vaccines. A lot of them had adverse health effects. And now that's not being talked about. Everything's about food dye. Now, by the way, get the food dye out. Sure. But let's not indemnify companies like Pfizer and all these people going forward. I mean, big, big pharma. It's the biggest. I mean, the big HHS, Robert Malone, inventor of mRNA that valiantly exposed it all, he came out today and said, no, I've seen the documents.
40:05The FDA and all of it authorized these new mRNAs. They literally didn't even consult Kennedy. And so I'm not giving Kennedy a pass. I mean, this is going on. So it's a big, giant operation. Susie Wells gave him the organizational skills that Trump needed to win. So it's the devil you need, the devil you don't need But who was she the chief of staff for In his last election Where does she live part of the year She works for Benjamin Netanyahu Suzy?
40:36Tim Dillon:She works for Netanyahu She was the chief of staff And his campaign manager Interesting, I did not know that That keeps coming up
40:51I'm not anti-Israel No, no, no. No, and listen.
40:54Tim Dillon:We don't even have to keep saying that. We're not anti-Israel. I don't have a heart on for it. I just have responsibility. You do. Like a jack-of-the-box Netanyahu. Jack-of-the-box Netanyahu. Remember Netanyahu back during the COVID thing said, I want Israel to be the headquarters of human testing. We don't know what this is going to do. We offer the Israeli people to be guinea pigs to be tested on. Well, that violates the Nuremberg Code. I'm not anti-Israel. I'm saying you pull it up. Netanyahu says Israel's a guinea pig. And I think Netanyahu's a villain. I have great friends in Israel and in America that are Jewish people that are religious.
41:31Tim Dillon:Some aren't. And a lot of them think what's going on in Gaza is atrocious and that Netanyahu's a criminal and should stand trial. But it is interesting to see that, you know, this administration is starting to spin out of control. it feels like that. Yeah, that's a good way to see it. The first five months or so, it was like almost perfectly on track for what, and then it just started going sideways. And now it's moving very quickly the wrong direction. And I have no interest in them failing. My God, the Democrats are literally trying to put me in prison and suing me and all this. I mean, it's like my lifeboat I'm in is Trump.
42:13And then he's poking holes in the bottom of the boat. And then I don't want to be enemies with Susie Wiles. I don't want to be enemies. and I can tell you a lot more. I mean, I've had the White House call up and be like, last week, what do you want? Yeah. I'm like, oh, you think I'm doing all this just to get something? I've never asked for anything. I want you to do what you were elected to do. Yeah. So it went from, you're bad, we're going to have our influencers attack you two weeks ago, to what do you want?
42:40Tim Dillon:Yeah. Well, they want it to go away. They want this to go away. And you I've been listening to you since I'm 12 years old On the GCN network I remember listening to you Before 9-11 By the way And then direct GCN network we're talking like fucking 1999 We're talking 8-bit internet I mean unbelievable And I believe that was the network you were on was GCN Yes So that's how long I've been listening to you And that's where I bring you in when stuff like this happens because I often get confused because we all basically say to ourselves, what the hell's going on? It's almost like the gaslighting is so crazy because it's like they start going like, who said Epstein was a blackmail operation?
43:30Tim Dillon:They're like, who said any of this? And you go, why would you suggest he's connected to the Mossad or anything? And you go, wait a minute, hold on. This has all been kind of decided. There's mountains of evidence. So to attack supporters or, you know, people that are just raising questions, of course you're going to have to go out and say, hey, guys, we know what you're doing. For whatever reason you want this to go away, it's not going to go away until you disclose the information you have. And that's the problem. The CIA was involved. MI6 was involved. Assad was the main group for more evidence.
44:11and now that they've implicated people in Trump's circle, he's doubled down. He's totally pick at it. It's a strength and a weakness. And so the polls show it from Raspian and all the other polls show it. This is a death spiral and it's so sad. And you got the Democrats that are openly with 350 ,000 kids smuggled across, a bunch of them in sex slavery, slave labor. You have Tom Homan. They've already saved 35 ,000 kids, prosecuted over 1 ,000 human traffickers. All this good's happening and I don't want to see this happen. But the way this works, and I'm surmising this, I don't know this is true, but if Trump makes a deal with the deep state to leave him alone on the Epstein thing as it implicates intelligence agencies, they go, okay, you got to have Cash Patel and Dan Bongino and all you go out and say there's nothing there.
44:59And this is what Kyle Serafin, really smart FBI whistleblower said months ago on my show. They're being given bad advice to go out and do stuff that discredits them by the very same people acting like they're on their side. So it looks like they made a deal to deep six this for a reason. And then the very same media and Democrats then turn on them and now hanging around their neck and nose. The Democrats say they want Epstein declassified. They only want stuff with Trump in it. I say release it all, release it all,
45:25Tim Dillon:release it all. It's the only way. And, and, and, and maybe depose Alex Acosta and let, let's find out who told him that. And that's the, again, U S attorney, the prosecutor in 15 years ago that said he was told go easy, intelligence? Yes. I mean, let's find out. And, and, you know, at the end of the day, I think that, you know, I'm not naive. You're not naive. We know that there's serious players behind the scenes that are exerting pressure on all kinds of people. And I know that you can't wave a magic wand and make the deep state go away and you can't, you know, throw them all in jail overnight.
46:02Tim Dillon:But if there's no accountability for this type of criminal activity that everybody knows about, the lack of credibility is going to eat away at not only this administration, but at the government and the justice system in this country. No, you're right. You're absolutely, you've hit the key here. And by the way, I can go as long as you want. We're going to wrap up in a few minutes. My bladder is about to bust. Can I just run pee and I'll come right back? Go run pee and come back. I'll just pee on air right now. You can run and pee, and I'll vamp while you're there. I'm good at it. I talk my whole show.
46:37Tim Dillon:I'm like you. I actually peed on Trump in Moscow. I learned how to do this with you. I just talk. I don't even have guests. No, no, no. But what I was going to say is, just like the made-up stuff Trump being peed on, that was all fake. So on the other side, I have such no belief in the established media because they've lied so much. Back in one minute. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go as long as you want. I got more stuff to add. Go pee. I just can't think. I understand. Man, Alex Jones is taking a pee break, ladies and gentlemen. And now it's time to tell you about Athletic Greens, the company that dropped me for talking about Alex Jones.
47:09Tim Dillon:I did one ad on my show about Athletic Greens many years ago, and we did it from Alex's studio, and they dropped me. So here's what I'd like to say about Athletic Greens. You know, one day my friend took Athletic Greens and he died. He put Athletic Greens in a water bottle and shook it up and then he drank it and now he's dead. Athletic Greens killed my friend. I don't know why it happened. Maybe it wasn't Athletic Greens. Maybe it was just some type of a random medical emergency. But I bet it was the Greens. He was frothing at the mouth. He goes, oh no, what's happening? And it was Green stuff was coming out of his mouth.
47:49Tim Dillon:He was going, I can't believe it. It's Athletic Greens. I'm dying. It's killing me. I knew it was fake. This is as he's dying. He goes, I knew it was fake anyway. You don't get healthy by putting a vial of green shit in water. It's a lifestyle. I knew it was fake. I just thought I'd take the easy way out. And then he just started going. And he was having a seizure because of athletic greens. Now, I'm just saying they can sue me. I'll sue him back. But I'm just saying it's a comedy show. Everything I'm saying is a joke. Of course, obviously, full disclaimer, did kill my friend. They did drop me.
48:25Tim Dillon:We tried to get them back. I performed at Carnegie Hall. We said, how about you guys come? We'll give you free tickets to my show. We're sorry. Who do you think's taking Athletic Greens? You think they're all offended by Alex Jones? Who do you think these people are that drink this? You think they're offended by this? All right, thank you. Thank you. Welcome back. Alex Jones, I was just shitting on an advertiser who dropped me because— No, you were talking about Athletic Greens. Yes. I took Athletic Greens and my dick got three feet longer. No, they dropped me. they dropped me because I said athletic greens on the show with you years ago so they're terrible I got an earpiece in when I ran about it but back to the incredible thing you just said yes yes this is a benchmark deciding issue because they killed Epstein all the cover outs people learned about it and then now Trump made a big issue and I'm sitting in the obvious here so him saying don't look at it don't talk about it he's not that stupid to do something like that.
49:24And so the whole thing makes no sense. It is a disaster. We need change. He's brought in a bunch of good people. It's so sad. But because of integrity issues, I can't sit here and play along with it. And all the evidence points towards Mossad blackmailing Trump. And I just wonder how we're supposed to get out of this. And I hope he can fix it. Because normally an incumbent president that wins the first election, they lose the House and Senate. The numbers, according to the pollsters, we were trending to win. He was getting record numbers with everybody.
49:59Tim Dillon:A lot of the fundraising came from very big donors, people like Miriam Maddison and stuff like that that have a lot of political connections in Israel, obviously. And I think there's probably pressure from that avenue as well of people that spent a lot of money to help Trump get elected that are probably telling him, let's make this go away. Let's not have this be an embarrassment or worse.
50:32The video cut out of you there. Sorry, yeah. Did you hear me? Yeah. He's coming back. Am I back? You are back. Okay. I got most of that. What is that? Is that a devil on your, is that Hillary Clinton on your? No, this is a lobster. It's the summer.
50:50Tim Dillon:See, that's like a... It's the summer. It's lobsters. That's like those ink blots. See, what does that say about me? I don't see a lobster. I see a devil. I like... It's the summer. So when the lobster's over and it goes to the fall, we put a pumpkin. I like it. Yeah, we try to make it nice while we talk about international, you know, sex trafficking, cults and this, that, and the other thing. By the way, Hollywood stands to probably get very embarrassed if this comes out too, because this is not just political. There's probably a lot of big people in Hollywood. Let's talk about who we know is heavily involved.
51:26You had a clear blackmailing operation against high tech people, science people, vaccines, genetic engineers, Harvard, massive Hollywood. The Clinton, Steve Jobs wives, the Atlantic monthly owner, Atlantic magazine, all those people. and that's my big frustration is that we know they're all in there we know it's all going on and by Trump doing this he's now joining with them and he did it in such a terrible way as saying you're not part of our organization if you question this which then backs up the left's claim that MAGA is a cult well I'm not Nicole so how are you processing this because I'm not a lesser to evils guy but overall Trump administration is a lot better I think the Democrats, but at the same time, it's an integrity issue because I become an accomplice by extension, Tim Dillon, by joining on the cover-up.
52:15Tim Dillon:Agreed. I process it the same way you process it. I think securing the border, having the American working class regain ground, and trying to provide a standard of living for people and not opening the borders. They've done that in the UK. It's caused tremendous strife They're now putting people in jail For tweeting about social And cultural issues in that country And he's gotten 15 trillion committed 5 trillion's already flooded in I mean he got in this new economic deal Everybody's on the line here, the Federal Reserve The establishment won't give him interest cuts I mean yeah, he is still the maverick Here's what I know And I'll give you the inside baseball and I hate to do this Do it I started hearing this about a year ago From people really close to Trump he was 78 then, he's 79 now.
53:08And then all the trials, all the pressure, all the demonization, he doesn't crack up, but at a certain point he becomes a really grumpy old man. And now, I knew this months ago, and I kind of mentioned it, but I didn't want to attack him and give them fodder. But it is an issue that incriminate him. It's not Epstein stuff. It's not something that can be a problem. They'll bring in some side issue and he'll scream at them and say, I only want to hear about stopping World War III, bringing jobs back, securing the border, and defeating election fraud. And he gets really mad now. He didn't used to do that.
53:41And other people that talked to him a week ago saying, sir, you've got to stop defending this and you've got to stop the Epstein cover-up. And these people he's known for 30 years, 50 years, he'll just say, fuck you then and hang up on them or kick them out of the Oval Office. So it's not just that he blew up about this. And it's good to have a guy that doesn't give a crap at a certain point for fighting corruption. But when he doesn't give a crap about his constituents, we're kind of experiencing, you know, what the establishment's experiencing. So I love him doing that to them. But with us, the optics are really bad.
54:14Tim Dillon:Who is he listening to? Who is he listening to? People say Stephen Miller and Susie Wiles have the most outsized influence in the administration. Do you think that's true? Yeah, I'm not defending Stephen Miller, but from my sources, he basically has the beat on the border and domestic stuff. It's Susie Wiles. And I hate to demonize her. You know, I'm not trying to come after her. I was warned up front she was bad news. And anybody that wants anything has to go through her. I just know her consultancy firm has gone from small to number one. And Bondi and her are good buddies, very tight. Is that the case?
54:57Tim Dillon:Absolutely. They were at the same consultancy. Right. Is it weird that they have a huge consultant firm, but they're also both in the White House? It's a major conflict of interest. Yeah. Seems so. So it's not quite Hunter Biden level stuff or 10 % for the big guy. And again, I'm not trying to say they're the only problem. It's just that, look, a lot of it is it's complex. It's huge. A lot's going on. And Trump is trying to be pragmatic. But if he thought he could make deals with the deep state and like, sir, the CIA and Mossad are implicated, let's shut this down. They walk into the trap. And now, oh, by the way, that stuff we raided from the Democrats, it's all about you.
55:39And it doesn't mean it's real. I already predicted it's recycled. It's recycled BS about Trump. And that's why I think that's what we're seeing.
55:47Tim Dillon:Do you think there's any part of him that says they'll kill me because they tried to, you know, they maybe tried to in Pennsylvania, you know, where very few people are satisfied with the explanation of who that, you know, would-be assassin was, Thomas Matthew Crooks, or, you know, he had no online footprint. We didn't know that much about him. The media has only recently started to kind of put out a narrative about him. But that was clearly a big brush with death. Do you think that there's any fear in that sense that Trump goes, you know, that the people are playing for keeps. I mean, I think that's at the end of the day.
56:30I mean, I think overall Trump wants success for America and he's pragmatically trying to pick the best direction. But there's a new video out that's viral everywhere about look on July 13th. I just saw that, yes. Yeah, on July 13th, you see the film crew being waved up after he shot, it shows his production. Well, anybody that's been in a presidential speech of Trump or Obama or any of them, which I've been to, or Bush, W, or any of them. I've been to all those. You have the Secret Service directing press up, directing press back. They tell you when you can be there, when you can't. He gets shot.
57:08He falls down. They wave him back. He pops back up. They let the press in. These are TV productions. So people seeing that production and then thinking, oh, it's fake. No, the whole thing is a production. but I know ballistics. I know rifles. They didn't have real people shooting in him. And then they just perfectly grazed his ear. And you can't fake real like that. You can't fake the acoustics of another shooter or a guy getting killed or other people getting shot in the background. I mean, I mean the greatest directors all fused together, Steven Spielberg, you know, Francis Ford Coppola, anybody, right.
57:52Right. Scorsese. Nobody, nobody can do that. Nobody can, you know, carry that out. That was real. His ear got grazed. These Democrats hold up the cartridges in the bullet and go something this big hit, you know, it's this big. And when it grazes you, that's exactly what it does. And cause long story short, I got shot with a 22 caliber pellet when I was 11 and it hit my ear and butt a lot, but the hole was closing like a day. Just went right through the side, I had the same thing happen. A kid named Mike Hamby shot me. It was an accident. But the point was, is that my grandmother's ranch, the point is, no, no, that was real.
58:29And all the lawfare and all the indictments and the mugshot and the persecution I've gone through was real. And because of that failing and because of what happened, they're now trying to spin that and make it go away. But people then see, oh, they pushed the media back. Well, if you go to any debate or presidential deal, they tell the media to come forward. They tell them to come back. And then once Trump pops back up, they're like, okay, he's okay. He can come back forward. Because they're producers. They're filmmakers that run this that are trying to get iconic shots for videos or put out for Trump.
59:03And so they all seem shot. They get scared and run back. Then he pops back up. It's normal. Okay, they creep back up, bring the cameras back up. You've got a bunch of Pulitzer Prize-winning photographers there. but they've got to do what the secret service says. So people go, Oh, that's a production. Well, when Trump goes to the NFL game or the world cup game, that's a production. It doesn't mean the game didn't play. It doesn't mean it wasn't real. So, so yeah, you know, it is a production, but it's a production that is of a real event. That's happening.
59:31Tim Dillon:Before you go, what do you think Netanyahu wants? I mean, they bomb Syria today, the Gaza thing's insane. They seem to be hinting that they're not done with Iran. I've heard from people and there's articles out I mean this is not a secret that I don't think they feel like enough damage was done they want to do more what do you think ultimately in Trump's four years they would like to see, Netanyahu would like to see what would be their goal here would it be to
1:00:09Tim Dillon:reconfigure Gaza in the image of what they would want? I imagine that's on the table. Is it another attack on Iran? What do you think it is? Well, this I'm an expert on. How much time do I have? As much as you want. Oh, geez. All right. Benjamin Netanyahu has been in power off and on for 25 years. and previously represented the most right-wing aggressive Israelis. And when Yishat Ramin got in their way, it's on record, the group associated with him killed him. And now they've gotten Israel so radical. We can call it right-wing. That's what the media calls it. Let's just say Israeli supremacists.
1:00:56So I'm trying to compare it to Hitler, but the closest thing you're going to get is like racial supremacy. It's ironic. over it's ironic for sure yeah yeah we're the master right well they're going to drive a group out of their homes into the desert that's what pharaoh did the jews 3 000 years ago i mean it's like the pogroms you know that was wrong to the jews it's wrong here i'm not saying the muslims little angel cakes are perfect either believe me uh they're not little angel cakes but i get it yeah the optics are not good right and so a lot of the israeli leadership was like you know quit even michael savage's american citizen great guy pro-israel but he came on my show two weeks ago and said Netanyahu needs to go.
1:01:33Right. According to all his sources, I mean, they've taken Israel from being one of the most popular countries in the world to the most, did you know Israel in international polls is the most unpopular country in the world?
1:01:41Tim Dillon:Yeah, they've had a rough couple of years in terms of their - Yeah, so if you ask what's going on with Netanyahu,
1:01:51Netanyahu, until three years ago on record, you pull up articles, was the main funder of Hamas. Right. Israel set up Hamas and funded their creation to discredit the PLO. So if you got one group you don't like, put a new, more radical group in that challenges them, and then people forget about it later, and you blow them up next month. Like I said, eight months ago when NATO, Turkey, and Israel, on record, overthrew Assad after 18 years of trying, or 17 years, I said, I bet in six months they're trying to overthrow the new al-Qaeda leader. Well, Israel's now bombing and trying to take him out.
1:02:29which is a one-dimensional thing sounds good i don't like the leader of al-qaeda and ethically cleansing non-radical muslims and christians and druids and others but israel literally ran field hospitals for al-qaeda and bombed for them and put them in as a destabilizing force just like that yahoo's predecessors look good next when they were in power put hama created hamas so then you have october 7th and this stand down this little armed camp incredible Israeli intelligence, one of the best militaries on earth, that's not hype. Seven and a half hours, nobody responds to Hamas breaking across the fence and grabbing all these Jews.
1:03:08I mean, my God, you fart in Israel, they'll shoot a missile up your ass. So, and Netanyahu admitted there was a stand down. The army blamed him. He blamed them. That was a couple years ago. He said, when the war is over, we'll investigate. Well, for Netanyahu in power 25 years, serious heart problems, indicted, he stays in power by having crises. And so it really comes down to him and his party. And they can't have elections for five months under emergency declaration. They can't even have elections because of this emergency. So he stands to gain. The weapons makers stand to gain with billions a week in weapons being spent.
1:03:53Iran's no angel cake. I'm not different than them. But if you go back to Wesley Clark, 20-something years ago, he goes to the Pentagon, which is declassified now. And they go, the next five years, we're going to take out seven countries. Iran's the last. Well, they got Syria eight months ago. The last one is Iran. And it's not just about getting that Gaza Strip. Under international law, Israel gets 12 miles out, and they've got one of the biggest gas fields undrilled because the conflict. I mean, it's more rich than, you know, off the coast of Texas or Louisiana. And so there's trillions of dollars.
1:04:29And they've already built a pipeline up through there that goes up to Turkey. So Turkey is involved. Erdogan acts like he doesn't like Netanyahu. Those guys are on the, they're Siamese twins. They're joined at the hip. And so it's all, and the U.S. is involved, wants to act like it's not because it wants to stop the Belt and Road out of China all the way through into Russia and Europe. They want this other pipeline they're building up into Europe out of there, and there's gas all the way up from Israel, Lebanon, Syria, all the way. And so Israel wants to build the main industrial shipping hub for shipping liquid natural gas and the pipeline up to Europe.
1:05:12It's got probably more gas than frickin' Alaska. I mean, it's got more gas than Kuwait, more gas than areas there where Russia intersects with Ukraine. This is one of the richest gas fields in the world, trillions and trillions of pure liquid natural gas and oil that's near surface, by the way. It's not deep. And so it is a gold mine. So you hear Jerry Kushner, oh, I'm going to build condos here. And these weird AI videos with Trump, oh, it's going to be so beautiful. and Saudi Arabia wants to come in and offers to pay to make it all nice and give all the Palestinians jobs. That's all to cover.
1:05:49The hotels and the swimming pools and casinos are nothing. It's that hub because the southern hub, you can say, well, there's natural gas all the way from right there in the Mediterranean up to Syria, but you've got to have the hub at the start of it for the pipeline to come up out of Israel. And so this is not even debated. So we're talking, they're saying like$7 trillion in current numbers just off the coast of Gaza. You add it all up, it's over$20 trillion. You can leverage that. Then you have the military control. Israel is never actually, other than Tel Aviv, they've never had a proper port.
1:06:31And so this is about strategic alliances and control and blocking China. So I don't want to just blame Israel and all the Israelites. Yeah, no, no, for sure. it's all about the u.s acts like like trump oh please do a deal with gaza bomb bomb bomb bomb the next week you know eight years ago yeah does it again oh please don't hit gaza blah blah no the u.s and its interests are absolutely aligned with israel well no yeah in that sense i think
1:06:57Tim Dillon:you're right what is the end game in the ukraine we are still cutting big checks we're still spending a lot of money it seems like we're trying to get that country nuked that i mean And hopefully there'll be a deal in place. The vice president said he thought that was a very big possibility. But it seems like the policy of America is to push Putin into a corner until he uses some type of tactical nuclear weapon. I mean, I can't see any other endgame here. Well, as usual, your analysis just, you know, yourself is accurate. the head of France's finance, the head of their military, the head of Sweden, Germany, the UK have all said the last two years, you can look this up, they said, our business plan is a 20 to 30 year conventional war with Russia that will bankrupt Russia, will finally break Russia up in five parts.
1:07:46Well, that didn't work. Russia's outperforming weapons production, conventional munitions, artillery shells three to one, drones three to one. So that's not working. and so the EU's collapsed financially it wants this and you've got just like Vietnam turned out with McNamara he later admitted this before he died the documentary oh it was just a big war game and to make money they wanted a place where they could have won very quickly bombing the north they could have won you know destroying it but they never did that because it was just a way to pump. I mean, LBJ made like back then, be like$20 billion, like$3 billion himself, just off dredging out the ocean and putting in ports.
1:08:29So it's all a giant war game. And you've had for 15 years, the US and Soros overthrowing government's Ukraine, stirring it up, poking the Russians. And then they don't care as long as they can keep it going. They've laundered 300 billion dollars in just the last few years and it's all a big weapons laboratory and so to them they don't care and it's a i mean now they're talking about 30 percent of the eu budget now going to ukraine psychotic for the next yeah so so a war is a big black hole that you can launder money through and at the end of the day putin's more popular than ever that he's in a war like It's not like the Iranians and Netanyahu go wink, wink.
1:09:15The Mullahs are super unpopular. Now they're popular. You know, Putin was already popular. He's even more popular. It's not like they go wink, wink, but war is the health of the state. You know, if you go back to the movie on Henry VIII called The King, which is a true story, he finds out at the end that his ministers have a rebellion in England with the Scots and the Irish and the Welsh. which is all true story these letters are public now they've been public for hundreds of years and his french cousin they're really all just norman from william the conqueror they're not even french or british they're all right vikings that conquered france and and and england and they don't tell the new young king because his other brother you know died so they had to have him when his dad died this is a true story and and and and so he goes and has to have a war with france and all these all his buddies die he wins and his minister comes to the end and says you did a really good job we staged all this that's why you know he meets with the king of france even though he killed his son he goes great job you're really a real leader and then he meets with the head minister and the exchequer head goes we staged all this for you sir now you've put down all the rebellions you are now the true king of england and he kills him which is a true story he pulls a dagger out because his best friend died it stabs him to death learning this whole thing was staged real people died it was a real war but it was totally staged to put down rebellions in France and in England.
1:10:40And now that's how the real world works.
1:10:43Tim Dillon:Psychotic, unfortunate. I hope the Trump administration comes clean. It's the only way forward. People in this country need, you cannot have the abusive children go unchecked. You cannot let foreign governments have leverage over our government and influence that, you know, makes us, you know, completely ignore all of our principles. is not to say that we are passive or that we are little angel cakes, as you would say, we're certainly not, but everybody, we need to get all the information out and I appreciate you. I think you're doing an amazing job and I love that you still come on my show and I really appreciate you and a lot of people do.
1:11:25Tim Dillon:I'll come on, Tom. I've been begging to come on your show. I wish you'd come to Austin, but let me just have this final point. Yes. These Machiavellians think because they think in all this twisted, tindy chest that they're smart. No, it's sick. You said it earlier. This big economist, Martin Armstrong, says we're very close to nuclear war. Rand Corporation does. We understand conquest. We understand duplicitous. But with nuclear weapons and with biological weapons and with 9 billion people, we have to stop the conquest economy. We've got to have real peace. Yeah. And we keep hearing about all this peace, but it's not.
1:11:56It's got to stop because it could get out of control. You ask, will there be nuclear war? Yes. on the threat escalation ladder, it goes from one to like 44 in the Rand Corporation. Everybody uses the same model. We're at like 35 now. A few more. Remember two years ago, Biden said, we can't give F-16s and Abrams tanks, that's World War III, because it goes up the escalation ladder. We're now to, Trump met with Zelensky two weeks ago and said, maybe we'll bomb Moscow so they'll stop. You see, it just goes and goes and goes.
1:12:25Tim Dillon:It keeps going. And the elites would rather destroy the world than sacrifice their positions of power. Exactly. They've got their bunkers, like Dr. Strangelove, based on a true story when Curtis LeMay and the chairman of the Joint Union Staff, Ellen Lemister, come to... When the movie came out in 64, made in 63, it's all declassified, and I know it's Vivian Kubrick and all the inside stuff, but it's just what films made out of. This is the final thing. Curtis LeMay, the deputy head of the Joint Union Staff, and the Joint Union Staff, Ellen Lemister, look this up, folks. They come in the last year of the Eisenhower administration.
1:12:59Supreme Allied Commander, super hardcore, you know, was mad at the Germans and said, well, there's only food for other people. We'll starve two million to death. Wasn't like he was a pussy at the end of the war. They come to him. They say, sir, we're going to bomb our own military bases and shoot down our own planes. And we're going to blame the Russians and said the Cubans did it. And we've got a plan to sneak attack Russia. And we think we'll only lose 20 million Americans in their nuclear response. But if we wait a few years under mutually assured destruction, they'll be able to take us out.
1:13:28and he fired them. Yeah. And then they tried to come back and Kennedy fired them. That's Operation Northwoods. The movie Dr. Strangelove was leaked basically to Kubrick and he made the film to show what happened. They were literally in meetings talking about mine shafts and how we could get gross domestic product up. Even in the worst case scenario, they knocked out most of the population. And they came to Eisenhower and then they tried again. Guess who the adjunct of L.L. Emerson was? Who? Like 27. Donald Rumsfeld. Wow. So when you see 9-11 and the Project of the American Century, it's the same people.
1:14:05And then Dick Cheney, he brought in. So this is literally the ghost of LL Eminem and the ghost of Curtis LeMay. The movie Dr. Strangelove is a documentary of what almost happened. The Cuban Missile Crisis, declassified. The U.S. put Nike missiles on the border of Russia in several places, including Turkey. medium-range nukes. Russia put nukes there. I'm not a Russian. I've been to Russia. The point is, is that we're all told in school books, oh, the Russians put medium-range nukes in Cuba because they're assholes. No, Khrushchev was on TV saying, get your missiles out. But our media was so controlled, nobody knew we put missiles on their border.
1:14:47So it's the same story. It's not the average American's bad. It's not that Eisenhower's bad or Kennedy was bad. We have these crazy, power-mad generals, and now what have we done? We put missiles on Russia's border. That's what Russia said a year ago. They said, you already are hitting us every day with medium-range hypersonic missiles. We can't stop. If you hit us two or three a day, we won't respond. But if we see a large aeronautic attack of hundreds or thousands of missiles, we have to believe it's a nuclear stick attack because that's how they can shoot. These things go Mach 5, Mach 10. They can take out all the Russian bases.
1:15:16Most of Russia's weapons are in the West. Most of Russia's live in the West. they say if you shoot a bunch of these we got to go ahead and nuke you because we've got to believe it's a nuclear sneak attack that's why we're so close you ask are we close to nuclear war the atomic energy you know scientists group out of chicago the most respected that looks has said we are the closest to nuclear war the close remember you're two minutes to midnight it used to be two minutes to midnight we're something like 20 seconds to nuclear war now yeah so with the cuban missile crisis that's two minutes to midnight means total nuclear war the last time i I checked.
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