457 - Trump’s Battle Royale, Reborn Babies, & A Labubu Economy

9 Aug 2025 · 1 h 3 min · 14 chapters

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In short

The episode argues that modern American culture is driven by status-grifting “collectibles” and escapism, then pivots to political infighting in Trump’s orbit and a broader claim that tech oligarchs are using the administration to reshape government via AI. It also discusses “reborn” baby dolls and “adult summer camps” as further examples of adults roleplaying childhood.

Guests

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Key claims

LaBubu collectible dolls (marketed by Pop Mart) are treated as status symbols and likened to a “monkey’s paw” economy—turning children into gamblers via blind-box rarity. The White House is portrayed as a “battle royale” where leaks and Epstein-related tensions will cause officials to turn on each other. Trump is framed as a “king” used by tech elites (Palantir, Meta/Google, Elon Musk/Sam Altman) to enable surveillance/AI-driven governance. Reborn dolls and adult summer camps are criticized as unhealthy adult escapism.

Notable examples

Pop Mart market cap (~$46B; cited 205% change in 2025). Reborn dolls costing up to ~$10,000; Brazil bills to ban them in public. Britney Spears reportedly seen carrying a doll. CBS “adult summer camp” segment (Club Getaway). Dan Bongino, Kash Patel, Pam Bondi, J.D. Vance, Susie Wiles, and Epstein/Ghislaine Maxwell references.

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The Labubu Phenomenon

0:45 to 4:30

Tim discusses the cultural significance of the Labubu and its role as a status symbol in modern society.

“We had some fun with them at the comedy store.”

The Economy of Collectibles

4:30 to 8:00

Exploration of how collectibles, like Labubu, reflect societal values and economic conditions.

“You spent your 20s and 30s in and out of bed with random people.”

The Collapsing White House

8:00 to 10:00

Discussion on the turmoil within the White House and the dynamics involving Dan Bongino and other officials.

“And this is the future of the global economy by the way It's going to be crazes that drive people to buy things like this.”

Bongino's Podcasting Aspirations

10:00 to 14:01

Tim speculates on Dan Bongino's desire to return to podcasting amidst political chaos.

“And I am mad I don't have a special one.”

Trump's Political Tactics and Maneuvering

14:01 to 19:00

Explore Tim's insights on Trump's methods for manipulation and control.

“to go back to podcasting I don't think he wants to be the deputy director of the FBI He goes, that's not fun.”

The Influence of Tech on Politics

19:59 to 28:00

Discuss the growing control of tech leaders over political figures and policies.

“We're watching a coup, essentially, where Trump has been given a lot of money by these tech people to essentially allow them to take over the government.”

The Influence of Tech on Government

28:00 to 36:37

Explore how the tech community is impacting government and American politics.

“that the administration has been handed over in some respects to members of the tech community.”

The Rise of Reborn Dolls

36:37 to 42:01

Discussion about the growing trend of lifelike reborn dolls and their implications.

“People are buying$8 ,000 lifelike baby dolls in a weird new trend.”

The Unsettling Nature of Reborn Dolls

42:01 to 45:09

Explore the disturbing aspects of adult behaviors related to reborn dolls and societal acceptance.

“And I will talk a little bit about what kit they are, who made them.”

Critique of Adult Summer Camps

47:04 to 56:00

Tim Dillon critiques the idea of adult summer camps and the societal implications behind them.

“And since we're in the summer, we'll talk about this.”
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Exploring Adult Summer Camps

56:00 to 1:01:41

The discussion centers around the appeal of adult summer camps and the societal implications behind it.

“The first activity that we're going to do is our Welcome to Camp party.”

The Politics of Reality Shows

1:02:41 to 1:03:18

An analysis of political narratives and the influence of media on public perception.

“I think we're all getting played a little bit.”

The Politics of Reality Shows

1:03:22 to 1:07:52

An analysis of political narratives and the influence of media on public perception.

“I love Calci because you can really fuck around and set up your own markets.”

The Politics of Reality Shows

1:07:56 to 1:08:20

An analysis of political narratives and the influence of media on public perception.

“Palantir is here to help government and people exist together.”
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0:47What did Dick Cheney say? You have to work with the dark side? A friend of mine gave these to me. We had some fun with them at the comedy store. I do think they're evil, and I will get rid of them. I do not like them. They give me an uneasy feeling. I don't like them. I think it's not great that we have these Chinese voodoo dolls circulating amongst the population. People are clipping them onto their travel bag. Planes are going to start going down. They already are. There's something odd about fentanyl stuffed Chinese voodoo dolls being attached to people's belt loops. And people are wearing them like necklaces.

1:27And they're actually kind of creepy critters. They're not aesthetically pleasing. They're not cute. They're kind of creepy. And everyone agrees they're kind of creepy and off-putting. Even the most ardent fans of the labubu will agree that it's sort of a monkey's paw. But they're a status symbol. And like many things, it is completely devoid of meaning. and in a world that is increasingly devoid of meaning, it absolutely makes sense that people will be entranced by different things like this, collectibles. And the Lububu, like, I'll hold it up in my car and I have a really nice car. Doesn't matter, but it's a nice car.

2:25but I hold up the labubu and people start freaking out because apparently they're hard to get. So in a world where we've created a culture that doesn't have any meaning and everything is accepted as some form of scam and children grow up wanting to get in on the scam lest they be left out in the cold, the labubu is the perfect symbol of uh the economy that we've created and the cultural value system that we have it is a chinese fentanyl stuffed voodoo doll that is being uh exported to america you open the package and you don't know which labubu you have gotten they've added the element of gaming of gambling into this turning seven-year-old children into gamblers.

3:20Which one did I get? I hope it's a special one because there's a bunch of regular ones and then there's a special one. Maybe you'll get the special one. Sure, mom and dad aren't married anymore, but maybe you'll get the special one. Maybe you'll get the special LaBubu. Mommy still loves you very much. I don't know where she is. In the culture that we've created, the libubu is a symbol of status. In a culture where nothing really matters, fame is awarded to people randomly in many cases. Wealth is awarded to people based on a myriad of factors. Many of them seem to be out of the control of many people.

4:12so little gimmicks little gadgets little critters little things like the labubu become an important status symbol for people who have given up on owning a home having a family having a job or a meaningful life. When you have given up on all of those things and you are 40 years old, no one has published your novel, no one has gotten on board with your career in entertainment because you should never have started, no one told you to, and yet you did because you followed the general advice that you should follow your dream and whether or not you had any aptitude for that dream or the work ethic to make that dream a reality.

5:08You spent your 20s and 30s in and out of bed with random people. You didn't build a relationship. You didn't build a career. You didn't build a skill set. Unfortunately, many of the jobs you would be qualified to do are no longer available for you. You are fighting a battle with age, with dynamics of the economy you barely understand, because none of us do. But you have a labubu on your bag when you visit your sister who has a family. And her kids think it's cool. It is really what motivates, all these articles, I wonder what, why do people, Listen, people have always liked collectibles. My mother loved them.

5:58She was a schizophrenic, but she liked them. Beanie Babies, McDonald's toys, Hestrux. It's a part of the American culture to get into collectibles.

6:08Tim Dillon:And it's always a kind of get-rich-quick scheme. I can get a bunch of cool things, and then one day they'll be worth a lot more. They never are, but that's the idea. The Antiques Roadshow, maybe the most American show ever. Boomers go, well, I bought something at a garage sale. Hopefully the Declaration of Independence is in the back of this dresser and I can retire. That's what America is about. So the Lububu isn't new, but expect a lot more of it. The company Pop Mart is now worth what? Get up the worth of this company, which again is only the LeBubu, little Chinese fentanyl stuffed demon troll doll.

7:02Pop Mart's market capitalization is estimated at$46 billion.

7:14Pop Mart's market cap has significantly increased with a reported 205 % change in 2025. It's worth noting that the net worth can also refer to the company's net assets. As of December 2024, Pop Mart's net assets are reported by the company's market cap to be$1.5 billion. Okay It's a huge increase In market capitalization And it's because they have gotten People addicted to this little off-putting Critter It's a critter It's a little voodoo doll And this is the future of the global economy by the way It's going to be crazes that drive people to buy things like this. This is going to now, this is a, I wouldn't say it's something new, but the scope of it is new.

8:21The amount of money that is being spent is going to be big. And because of the internet, everything is global. And these little signifiers of status, which there was a brief moment when NFTs, non-fungible tokens, were signifiers of status, are replacing the old signifiers of status. Like, look, here's my children. That used to be status. My son is good at soccer. That was status. You cannot afford a son. You cannot afford a soccer ball. You will get a labubu. That's what you'll get. You will get a demonic Chinese voodoo doll and you will attach it to the bag you live out of.

9:09Tim Dillon:And that is it. You are not going to get a house. You will get a little critter. You will get today's version of a gigapet. That's what's going on. And the people's eyes, even the adults, the adults, their eyes get big. You've got one of them. I want one of them. What? A family? No, that demon doll, that troll, that critter. And if you look at the face of LaBubu, get the close-up of the face. It's evil.

9:42Tim Dillon:It's not smiling in a nice way. It's an evil being. It knows it has you under a spell. That is the face a cocaine dealer makes when they hand you an eight ball. The labubu is not your friend. The labubu is here to control you. And I am mad I don't have a special one. Someone brought these to me at dinner, and it's not even a good one. It's not a special one. It's like a very normie one. So I'm pissed about that on top of all of that.

10:18So let's talk about the quickly collapsing White House for a few minutes because it's becoming interesting. There was purportedly a dinner that was being set up with J.D. Vance, the vice president, Susie Wiles, Trump's chief of staff, Kash Patel, the very competent head of the FBI, sarcasm, and Pam Bondi, again, very competent attorney general. and they were all supposedly going to dinner to silence Dan Bongino, podcaster turned administration official. And they were supposedly meeting to tell Dan Bongino to shut up about Jeffrey Epstein and about the cover-up. And this is what was supposedly happening.

11:13But there were leaks.

11:15Tim Dillon:People started leaking. The meeting appeared to have been moved or rescheduled Wednesday night. Some officials who are expecting to attend the meeting, including Vance and Attorney General Pam Bondi, were spotted leaving the White House on Wednesday evening. Administration officials told CNN earlier in the day that there were discussions about moving, canceling, or rescheduling the meeting amongst tense media scrutiny. So what's going on is there's a lot of finger pointing. People are angry with each other, obviously, but also they've realized that this is the nail in the coffin for their credibility.

11:51Dan Bongino has realized that. What is Bongino? What is he? Cash is the head of the FBI. What is Dan Bongino? I'm blanking now on what he actually does. Okay. He's the deputy director of the FBI, and then Cash Patel is the director of the FBI. Okay. Dan Bongino reportedly is going rogue. This guy's like, hey, I have a podcast. This is Dan Bongino had a podcast. He had a radio show. And now he's the deputy of the director of the FBI. And I think what he's starting to realize is that while America may have an expiration date, podcasting is forever. So he's protecting his future career as a podcaster.

12:45I'm not kidding. This is not a comedic bit. He genuinely is going, I want to come out of this administration and go back to a fun job like podcasting. I don't want to be the deputy director of the FBI and cover up child sex scandals all day. I want to read ads for Bluetooth from my house. it's a good gig, this podcasting. It's not bad. Hard to complain about. Yes, there's a good amount of it happening all the time. You got to do it every week.

13:22Tim Dillon:But I think Dan Bongino's going, I don't want to be around these people. I don't want to be near these people. I didn't sign up for this. I don't know Dan Bongino at all. I've never done his show. I've never been in the same room with him. But I imagine he's saying to himself, I didn't sign up for this. I don't want to be part of this cover-up I want out so he's leaking stuff to the media about Epstein and other members of the administration are essentially telling him to shut up

13:56Tim Dillon:but I don't think he will I think he wants very very badly to go back to podcasting I don't think he wants to be the deputy director of the FBI He goes, that's not fun. I don't want to do that. I want to go back to doing my show. Let me do my goddamn show. I want out. This is the whole thing. He doesn't want to be part of this. All of these people are about to turn on each other in a very public way. You can see this coming from a mile away. everybody's even in that sphere of people on the internet that aren't working at the white house are starting to get in little fights the people in the white house are going to start to rip each other's throats out over this this is kind of trump's mo he gets a bunch of people together and they all it's battle royale and he watches them tear each other's spines out he gets off on that.

15:04Tim Dillon:He likes that. He's an older man. He likes it. He likes watching the people in his White House rip the skin off each other's faces. It's the ultimate reality show. He brings Laura Loomer up there. He fires somebody because Laura Loomer has identified something about them that is a problem and he should watch out for. And maybe she's right and maybe she made it up and who knows and who cares, but he goes, you're fired. He calls them up and he goes, you're out of here. And they're gone. It sends a chill through Washington. They go, wow, another scalp. Loomer's got another scalp. And then he just sets all these people on each other.

15:52Tim Dillon:He sets Susie Wiles on Bondi and Patel. He just goes, fight, fight it out. Rip each other's spines out. And he sits there and he watches. He likes it. it's fun for him. It's fun for him because it is what he's always kind of done. This is his MO. Trump very much believes that all things are to please the king. He believes that. All things are to please the king. and if he's bored or if he's covering up an international child sex trafficking scandal or if he's running cover for Netanyahu and Adelson and Israel and whatever they're doing it's fun to just divert attention to the king's court and everybody, we're going, we're having a duel we're going to joust we're going to watch everybody tear each other's face off because that's what he does, what he wants he wants, he likes this he doesn't dislike it and he doesn't want to avoid it it's what is taking the eyeballs off of Israel's indefinite occupation of Gaza the fact that he has now claimed that Epstein did nothing happen Ghislaine Maxwell moved to a minimum security prison after she said to Todd Blanche he didn't do anything wrong.

17:28Tim Dillon:Todd Blanche is Trump's attorney general. He met with Todd Blanche. It was a meeting with Todd Blanche before he went to go see Ghislaine Maxwell. Ghislaine Maxwell's now in Club Fed. But instead of that, he's walking on the roof of the White House. Don Jr.'s got memes of him with the dildo. They're trying to get in fights. What's Sidney Sweeney doing?

17:55Tim Dillon:it's all about trying to run cover. And if you watch it, it's actually quite interesting the way they're choosing to do it. Now they go, let's get a reality show going. Who's in, who's out? Who hates who? Who's blaming who? Let's watch them fight because it takes attention off what's actually happening. I don't know if Bongino's leaking stuff or not If he is They've got a problem On their hands Reportedly somebody wanted to talk to Rogan I read about this too That's going to be a bad idea for them Because Rogan's going to sit there And ask some questions for two hours And when Kesh Patel went on Rogan It was a bad idea Because Kesh Patel looked like he was covering something up.

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19:58Tim Dillon:And I'm thinking about all of this this morning. I happen to be in Los Angeles and I thought about some of it last night and I was driving and I was saying to myself, are there people for example the Curtis Yarvin Tech people the big money players, Teal, not only him but others, that whole sphere Zuckerberg the Tim Cook, people like that do these people want Trump to outlive his usefulness to them. We're watching a coup, essentially, where Trump has been given a lot of money by these tech people to essentially allow them to take over the government. And I think Elon Musk, and again, this is my own theory, I think Elon Musk, you got Tim Cook in there again, giving him a golden apple.

21:07He knows what Trump likes. They're all showing up. Look how creepy this is. They're all kind of showing up. Again, all things are to please the king. Here's a gift.

21:19Yeah. It's engraved for President Trump. Oh, lovely. Yeah, nice. It's a unique unit of wine. Giving him a nice little plaque. All right. All things, obviously, to please the king. they wanted and needed him to open up the bank for them. He did. Sam Altman, these people.

21:49Tim Dillon:I believe Elon Musk was a little bit of a trial balloon. I think there were probably people that thought Elon Musk was going to be more popular than he was. Remember, as smart as some of these people are in their field, they're completely hopeless when it comes to social intelligence. They think Elon Musk is the coolest guy ever. They don't understand how cringe it is to a lot of people. I think there was an expectation amongst these Silicon Valley types that Elon Musk was going to be a lot more popular with the American public than he was and that Donald Trump was going to kind of let Elon Musk run the country I think Elon Musk was under that impression Elon Musk got in there and he didn't look like he was there for a limited amount of time he was digging in.

22:49He wanted, I mean, I think he wanted that Doge,

22:53Tim Dillon:Department of Government Efficiency, to be a permanent thing. I mean, they all say now that it was never intended to be permanent, but it could have grown into something permanent. I don't think too many people get into the White House and want to leave. Musk had all that power, and then there was this huge falling out. Musk thought it was going to be more than it was. This is why he started challenging Trump. Musk knew Trump was going to pass a bill Probably that Musk didn't like Trump didn't run on being a star of the beast conservative And that he was going to eliminate government spending I mean that became a theme after he won But Trump ran on the idea that he was going to like Bring back an era of American exuberance Which would require spending a lot of money He ran on enforcing immigration and enforcing new tariffs and bringing back work to the country.

23:55Tim Dillon:All of that takes money. It doesn't seem to anybody that Trump ran on slashing taxes, shrinking government. Those weren't the primary components of Trump's appeal. He was an economic nationalist. He was a populist. Elon Musk knew that. I think the reason that Elon Musk started flipping out was because Elon Musk realized that he was going to then spend the rest of Trump's term on the outside. And I don't think that was the plan. I think a lot of people want the country governed by, and I don't mean a lot of people, like a lot of people in America. I mean, like, of the small group of people that gave Trump a lot of money, they want the president of the United States to be a symbol only.

24:53Tim Dillon:They want the president of the United States to be a symbol only. In the same way that elements of the intelligence community or business leaders have always wanted the president of the United States to be a symbolic position and that they wanted to pull the strings behind the scenes, tech people are now doing the same thing. They want to take over They want to put AI that they've programmed In charge of a lot of decisions They want to get rid of a lot of the government And they want the President of the United States To be essentially a puppet Now Here's the question

25:41Where

25:44Tim Dillon:Is Trump

25:51Tim Dillon:mentally where is he mentally is this guy aware of that was he aware of that it seems like that was the plan he's not stupid he he has a a guttural political instinct he looks at the people around him and I've often said a lot of people think they're using him. He's usually using them and they don't know it. But the tech people clearly are going to eventually realize that the Republican Party brand is going to be damaged not only by Epstein, but by all of the things that have now become a mess. The ICE raids have become a mess. People are not on board with ripping fathers away from their children at high school graduations that have committed no crimes.

26:52It's become a mess. Dumping people off Medicare and then giving all the money to Israel and the Ukraine has become a mess.

27:01Tim Dillon:And it's the exact opposite of what he ran on. It's the exact opposite. So the tech people are not stupid, but they don't care because they got what they wanted, which was the money. They wanted the money. So they helped him win. And they gave him the money and they gave him, you know, deference. And they allowed the king to be the king. Washington Post and Trump's Washington Palantir is winning big from war fighting and tracking deportations to writing State Department cables with AI. The company is benefiting from a new technology-driven cost-cutting ethos in government. So the Make America Great Again people are slowly waking up to the idea that the administration has been handed over in some respects to members of the tech community.

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28:14Tim Dillon:People who do not believe in America as a nation state, people who don't believe in the Constitution, people who don't believe in privacy, people who believe in endless surveillance are the people in the MAGA tent that are now trying to apply pressure to the machinery of government and have applied pressure? At what point is Trump useless and do they turn on him? How weak does he have to get before they turn? I don't know. These are all questions. I've been thinking about these things. did they think Trump was going to hand the government to Elon Musk? And I'm not saying the tech community is a monolith.

29:06Tim Dillon:There's people in the tech community that hate each other. Great. Who cares? People in the CIA that hate each other too. Guess what? They all get together on some things. There's rich people that hate each other, but they all agree on some things. Fortune 500 CEOs may be competing, fucking each other's wives, whatever. But when it all comes down to it, there's a few principles they heartily agree. And I think with tech, you would find that to be the case. With Elon and Sam, they hate each other. He hates him and he sucks and they suck. But at the end of the day, they both don't believe in the American government to regulate their industries.

29:50Tim Dillon:They don't believe in the American government. and they don't believe that the Bill of Rights or the Constitution should get in the way of whatever the hell they want to do. Palantir, the software and data analytics company, has garnered at least$300 million in new and expanded business since Trump took office for his second term, helping to make it the S &P's top performing stock of 2025. In May, Pentagon leaders allocated up to$795 million more to the military's core artificial intelligence software program. Yay!

30:24Tim Dillon:doesn't that sound good? At the Department of Homeland Security, immigration officials reversed earlier plans to ditch some of the company's services when their superiors awarded Palantir a$30 million contract to spring to track immigration enforcement. AI replaces people. These guys program the AI. The politicians become not only puppets, they become actors. puppets you at least have to control with a marionette you gotta blackmail some of them bribe some of them feed the egos of some of them it's a very imperfect system and parts of it are evil but now imagine they're not even puppets they're actors they're literally hired actors who are just giving a human face to the beast behind the scenes.

31:21Tim Dillon:And it's hard to now look at the Trump administration as any other thing other than a veil for this. A veil for the AI takeover of government and a veil for the tech revolution to take over American life, to put everyone, as Catherine Austin Fitz said, on a digital control grid. This seems to be what it is. I don't know how you can look at it another way. I'm sure there are other ways to look at it. I'm sure there's lots of hopeful people that look at it very differently. Maybe they're all privy to things I don't know But from the outside it very much seems That And I'm not a Luddite I don't believe that I'm not trying to I don't want to live with the Amish I understand that China has AI And we need to have AI and all of this I understand all of that I'm not completely You know Against technology At all it's made my life much better i can do this show i can make a living what i am against is people who do not make their intentions clear and launder their goals into some populist movement where americans were going like hey we need a border we need jobs we need our own communities to look better and then have the heads of Palantir and Meta and Google say, that sounds great.

33:11Tim Dillon:Here's how we think that can happen. And they're not trying to do any of that. They don't care about any of that. They're not trying to do any of that. They're trying to realize their vision of what a future America looks like. The government is inefficient. They want to get rid of it. Human beings are inefficient. They want to get rid of them. Peter Thiel, do you think the human race should survive? Well, I, well, maybe. They're pretty clear if you listen to them. But what they've done is they've laundered this message. That's why Mark Zuckerberg's on Rogan talking about jujitsu and stuff. They're trying to, and they think, well, Elon, I guess he's cool, right?

33:59Tim Dillon:He's got rockets. We'll put him in the White House. He'll be on Twitter all the time. What do these people really want? And that Bannon's going to run in 2028, and he's hopeless. It's just a collapsing brand, and very quickly, but Trump is going to do what he always does which is set the dogs of war on each other that's the what he does that's how he's planning to ride this out that's how he's planning to ride this out and then the weakest one they will pin this on Whoever emerges weakest, whoever gets bloodied in the media bad enough, whoever they can turn people on with leaks, awkward interviews, whoever, then they will try to get rid of that person.

35:00But unless they release everything they have on Epstein and unless Ghislaine testifies, they are part now of the biggest and most evil cover up in human history that we know about, that we know about, by the way. There were probably others.

35:14Tim Dillon:They can't get away from that no matter how much real world road rules, fucking real housewives, basketball wives, drama, they want to create at the White House. It's simply not going to work. You can give everyone a labubu, and people are still going to remember what's happening. At QVC, fall shopping is more than just checking out. It's discovering the brands you love across beauty, fashion, home, and culinary, all in one place. Whether you're getting ready for crisp mornings, cozy nights, or everyday moments, QVC has what you need for the season ahead. With brands like Laura Geller, Philosophy, Ninja, and so many more.

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36:40Tim Dillon:People are buying$8 ,000 lifelike baby dolls in a weird new trend. Let's move on from the LaBooBoo to the real baby doll that people are buying. Best case, these dolls were introduced so that women who had lost a child or felt some weird way in postpartum, which I don't know much about, could heal their trauma with his baby. This is an article in the Times or the Wall Street Journal. So always the journal. Always demoralizing over at the Wall Street Journal. Kelly Maple tenderly sets her bundle of joy and Naomi into a Nuna car seat and drives her to the mall. When they arrive, Maple 23 places little Naomi, dressed in a onesie and a hair bow, into a high-end stroller, complete with portable sound machine, stuffed animal and pacifier.

37:36Tim Dillon:Giggling, Maple and Naomi shop for tiny clothes. Most passerbys would mistake them for a typical mother and daughter, but Naomi is not real. She's a lifelike, quote, reborn doll. These collectible baby dolls, which can run up to 10 ,000 apiece, have been around since the early 2000s, but in recent years, they've exploded into a global phenomenon. Collectors who consider themselves parents shell out for luxury baby gear and dote on their reborns as if they were human children. In Brazil, they've become a lightning rod in recent months with politicians introducing bills to try and ban the popular doll from public places.

38:19The reborn doll world is hidden in plain sight in the United States. It's a cottage industry with amateur craft,

38:25Tim Dillon:amateur crafters hand molding and painting dolls in their basements. the process, especially for the more ver... I know ver-similitude, but this is an interesting... ver-similitudinous silicone dolls is labor-intensive, including painting delicate pale blue veins on their soft peachy skin. How sick, how disturbed, how strange, how creepy... Oh, my God, how creepy that is. It's so creepy.

39:03Tim Dillon:I don't know what to say other than it feels like we're heading down a bad road. Again, I know that's a well-worn theme of this program, but it feels like we're heading down a bad road. I don't know. Is it good that adults are walking around with dolls they call reborns that are fake babies and pushing them around in strollers? Is that good? Is that a good development? Is it a positive development that adults are walking around with fake children that they are taking shopping in America's malls? I don't know. Feels bad. Feels not good. Feels like it's going to a creepy, weird place. Detractors find the dolls creepy, and some owners say they are taunted by families and online bullies.

39:54Tim Dillon:What these critics misunderstand, collectors say, is the therapeutic potential of the dolls. Women who have lost babies or experienced miscarriages are comforted by the reborns. The dolls can also soothe women with PTSD, Alzheimer's, dementia, and autism. Britney Spears, who said she had a miscarriage, has been seen carrying a doll. Well, that's a good advertisement. Good advertisement for them. Some women are fanatic collectors amassing dozens, if not hundreds, of dolls and posting online videos of diaper changes and trips to the park.

40:26hey it's weird it's really weird it's really weird and i think it's deeply haunted and i think that

40:38Tim Dillon:there's obviously a place for something like that to people that have extreme ptsd or who have lost a child, but that's not everybody who's buying these things. People like the social capital of having a baby without actually having a baby. They like walking around with a baby in a stroller. They were trying to LARP as a mother or a father or whatever. There's something deeply strange and off-putting about this behavior. And I think it's, you know, it's like, we're going to look back 10 years from now and go, what were people doing right before that, like the metaverse, before everybody plugged in and they go, oh, they were walking around with fake babies in New York City.

41:26Tim Dillon:They had dolls and it's going to be like, oh, well, yeah, I guess this is better. I guess this is better. I guess this metaverse is better. What were people doing right before the digital police state. Well, they were, I don't know, they were pushing dolls around and they were collecting little Chinese demon trolls. Oh, well, this is better, I guess. Can we watch a little bit of this or are we going to get dinged on YouTube? We can watch it. Okay. You guys keep asking me to do a collection update video, so that's what we're going to do today. Basically, I'm just going to show you guys the dolls that are in my Reborn collection.

42:02Thank you. And I will talk a little bit about what kit they are, who made them. Yeah, so I tend to do these videos like Every once in a while because you guys are curious who is in my collection I used to change it up a lot, but honestly, I've been really happy with my collection and haven't changed it too much recently so I Don't know Maybe which is like my personal favorite size to collect. I've had Naomi since December of 2018 So I've had her for a long time girl from the article and I just love her so much Naomi is the full only. Here's the thing, ready? You know this is happening. You know this.

42:43You know she's getting a call going, I don't want you bringing Naomi to Thanksgiving this year. Kelly, Kelly, I'm your mother. Kelly, I'm asking you to not bring Naomi to Thanksgiving this year. Your brother, it makes your brother and your father and me upset. Kelly, it makes us upset. I don't, I'm not saying I hate Naomi. And of course, well, Kelly, Naomi's not going to be alone.

43:13Tim Dillon:She's a doll. She's not alive. What do you mean you're not coming if you can't bring Naomi? Kelly, do not bring Naomi to that. Do not show up with Naomi. Do not bring her. So Naomi here is a prototype version, obviously. And she was painted by Christy Carwithin, and she was rooted by Jillian Jade DeSicco. I love this baby so much. She's just perfect. I cannot see myself ever parting with her. I love her so, so much. And yeah, like I said, she's full body silicone, so she's entirely silicone, and she has a ball-jointed head. It's so creepy. It's creeping me out. It's creeping me out just even watching it.

43:56It creeps me out just watching it. I don't like it. But I can't articulate exactly why.

44:01Tim Dillon:I think I have. I think I've articulated it as clear as I can. Something is deeply unsettling about playing dress up or playing pretend as an adult. One of the things that I find the most disturbing in our current society is that people are playing pretend as adults. They do not accept any reality that they do not like. so they invent a reality that they feel more comfortable in that bears no resemblance to the world that most of us are living in. That's a big issue for me. I don't love that. That's not one of my favorite things about the time that we're in now. I don't think walking around, this is another one, but I don't think walking around with a fake baby is good.

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47:09Tim Dillon:And since we're in the summer, we'll talk about this. CBS is now saying, and they're doing this, and again, CBS is mainstream. Obviously, it's CBS. They're coming out and they're going adult summer camp, see surge of interest as people seek community and nostalgia. And you might say to me, Tim, don't you always talk about the importance of community? don't you always talk about the people need a community yes well then shouldn't they go uh to a summer camp as adults what the hell's wrong with that a lot i'm glad you asked a lot is wrong with that a lot multiple things lots of things are wrong with it well why wouldn't they why shouldn't they go to a summer camp and have fun with other people they're adults they're adults You don't go to fucking camp That's it There's other ways to build community Outside of pretending to be in a fucking camp As an adult Put the fake baby away you sick fuck Nobody wants to be in a community with a psychopath Who's in a summer camp with a fake baby It's nuts This is the reason they're not in communities is because they keep doing this horse shit.

48:30Tim Dillon:That's the reason they're not in one is because they're fucking going to summer camp with a fake baby. That's the problem. Or is it community good? Yeah, community's great, but not this way. Pedophiles are community. That's not good. Meth addicts are community. That's not ideal. Not all communities are good. A bunch of people in a summary. Let's watch this. How sick this is, by the way. Can we watch the CBS thing? Yeah. Let's watch this. This is sick. This is maybe more disturbing than the fake baby goat. All right, for many families, summer's all about camp, right? But who says kids can have just, only kids can have the fun?

49:13Well, Yelp reports that there is a 350 % increase in searches for adult summer camps this year as people look for community and nostalgia. And as Nancy Chen shows us, plenty of both can be found at camps around the country. With zip lines, entry, and bunking up in log cabins, there are all the hallmarks of your child's favorite summer camp. Except this one is for the grown-ups. Welcome to summer at Club Getaway in Kent, Connecticut, where campers 21 and up come together every weekend. Net meahu, vomit!

49:55Tim Dillon:Israel, vomit! Kid again. What are you looking forward to most? Beating some people in like kickball or like tug of war, something like that. Shamia Briscoe is one of many who came to camp to leave all her responsibility behind and instead bring out her inner child. The nostalgia of it, right? Like I did overnight camps when I was younger and I remember like going out on the water. That's it. Going rock climbing. And I was like, why not do that with some alcohol? What's really cool is that all the activities are planned for you. All right, I guess we're down this thing. Activities that aren't always for the faint of heart.

50:33Is this safe? Yeah. Stop it for a minute. The American media is trying to destroy your mind. I mean, the American media is presenting this as something normal. It is very sick. The American media is presenting going to an adult summer camp as a normal activity, and I don't care if it's this or Bohemian Grove. I think it's all wrong. This is fucked up. Let me articulate this in a way that people can understand. You have stages to your life. You are young. You will never do all the things that young people do. You cannot. It is impossible. Because the experiences of young people are varied. You see?

51:28There are young people that attend camp. There are young people that went to the prom. There are young people that will never go to a prom. See, Gaza. There are young people that are never going to win a Little League championship. There are young people that are never going to have their mother and father there at their high school graduation. There are young people that for whatever reason are not going to have the experiences that young people that we tend to associate with being young. That is part of life. Accepting that is a big part of life. accepting what you get and what you don't get and making a life from that place is a big part of life having do-overs and trying to recapture a feeling or trying to discover a feeling you never had in this way paying to go to a place to try to feel something that you felt as a child and need again, for whatever reason, this is my big issue with Disney World and Disney adults.

52:41They're incapable of accepting the reality of life.

52:46Tim Dillon:And that is that you cannot stay a fucking child. You have to grow up. And if you're lucky, you become an adult. Then you become middle age, and then you become an elderly person, and then you die. That is the cycle of life. You cannot, and I'm not saying you can't do things young people do to stay young. I'm saying you cannot go to an adult summer camp and you cannot walk around with a fake baby unless you're a child. If you're a child and you have a doll, that's one thing. You cannot walk around with a realistic baby and then pretend to change its diaper and feed it at a family party. Something is wrong.

53:30Tim Dillon:See someone. See someone now. See someone now. Oh, we're going to the adult summer camp. Oh, it's actually super fun. All the events are planned for you. And it's actually really cool because we do it with alcohol. It's like canoeing and fun. Hey, I want you to go to a hospital. I care about you and I want you to go to a hospital now. Look at me. Well, no, you're freaking out. It's actually just kind of like a fun thing. Super nostalgic. You meet some cool people. I want you to go to a hospital now. Get in the ambulance. Get in the ambulance now. You're not going to a summer camp. You're 38 years old.

54:13Tim Dillon:You're not going back to college, and you're not getting a fake baby. It's not happening. Christ Almighty, it's one of the things that is the least, you know anything you want to say about american culture are are myriad of problems i know i use that word too much but it's a great word the issues we have the hollowness the consumerism the materialism the emptiness the dishonesty the grift the graft the evil lurking around every corner, people taking advantage of others, the rotten and poisoned food system, the drug dealers, we get it, how bad it all is. We should make, we should make a pact that we're adults, that we're not going to escape these problems into a Narnia fantasy land and pretend to be children.

55:17Tim Dillon:That is a fate worse than death. We cannot do it. We cannot do it. It is something that cannot happen. We must face these challenges as adults. We cannot go to Disney World childless and go on the rides. We cannot go to the camp. You cannot get the fake baby. I'm sorry. This is crazy. I mean, this is absolutely insane. Let's watch a little bit more of this before I have a stroke. Hang on. Oh, yeah. I don't remember actually agreeing to do this. Hi.

56:11Okay. I was good. Sorry to speak. So this is where it starts, right here. The first activity that we're going to do is our Welcome to Camp party. David Schreiber is the camp's owner. Why do you think people come here? They're sick. I think people come here from an experience. They want to meet new people. They want to try different things. They're sick. And feel part of a community. They should go to the hospital. They should go to a hospital. Open to children during the week, Club Getaway has been welcoming adults for nearly 50 years. On a bed. It wasn't until recently that programs doubled. They should be restrained.

56:47As interest spiked. Do you find that the popularity of summer camps for adults right now is tied to people wanting to seek a simpler time? Yes. A hundred percent. You know, things are complicated right now. There is a simplicity that comes here, right? There's sort of a depth in the superficiality. We'll take the restraints off when you're better. We will take the restraints off when you're better. All right, get this out of here. Look at that disgustingness. Look at this. Get this out of here. We will take the restraints off when you're better. If you commit to getting better, we're going to help you get better.

57:23We'll take these restraints off. These people should be restrained. They should all be put on that bus, and instead of going to the camp, the bus should pull over, and they should be taken out, and at gunpoint, they should be put in straitjackets. They should be put in straitjackets and put into an institution, by the way. That's exactly how I would run. That's what ICE would do. If I ran this country, ICE would be, they wouldn't be grabbing busboys. They'd be tasked with putting these people in straitjackets and putting them in an institution and getting to the bottom of this crap. You're not going to experience everything on earth,

57:58Tim Dillon:you narcissist. You don't get everything. There are people that are not going to have the things. I'm sorry about that. It is a deep narcissism. It is not a search for community. It is not this bullshit. It is a deep and unrelenting narcissistic personality type that demands that they have every experience on earth at all times. There is a time for all things. Someone said that, I don't know who, and I don't care. But the point is this. It is a deep commitment to worshiping the cult and the church of self to say, I'm going to be a child again at summer camp. I'm going to get drunk and put whipped cream in my mouth like a degenerate, and I'm going to do this slip and slide.

58:54What do you call that? That fucking thing? It's a slip and slide, right? Yeah, I'm going to get drunk and do a slip and slide and get in a canoe after I take jello shots. I'm a degenerate. I'm a degenerate and I should be in a straight jacket. I have tattoos all over my body because I'm an animal degenerate. I should be in a straight jacket. But instead I have my mother fell down the stairs. So I'm taking her inheritance and going to summer camp when I should be paying for my straight jacket. I should get a bill for my straight jacket and I should never be let out. I should never be let out of my straight jacket.

59:32because if I am, I'm going to use my arms to sign myself up for adult summer camp or God help us get a fake baby and wheel it around New York City. I should be in a mental institution.

59:43Tim Dillon:I should be in a place where my day is playing. Hey, well, what's good is the activities, they're planned for you. You know where they're also planned for you? In a mental institution. My mother was in when we planned her day and it wasn't called summer camp. We called it the hatch, the booby hatch. You're going into the hatch. I'm telling you, ICE should not be building alligator Alcatraz. We should be building mental institutions to forcibly commit people. And it's not going to be the people you think. It's not going to be the people in New York City foaming at the mouth, screaming about the Bilderberg Group.

1:00:20Tim Dillon:Those people are right. It's not going to be them. It's going to be these freaks who are doing zip lines at 38 drunk at the fucking adult summer camp. They're going in. It's not going to be the people Screaming about the Rothschilds And the fucking Anunnaki It's going to be the people At adult summer camp That are going to be going in To a facility You're going into a facility Well it's really cool Because your day is planned for you And like You know I had to camp as a kid And now I'm at camp again No, no you're not You're going to jail It is a sick thing It is a sick thing Even though they're evil They keep me safe

1:01:12I want to name them

1:01:15Tim Dillon:Trying to name these two I'm going to call One of them Israel and the other one Gaza These are my little boobos Israel and Gaza and they fight. Hopefully they figure that out, huh? What's going on over there? They're going to annex the whole thing. We're out of time now. We'll get to that later, maybe on the Patreon or next week. At QVC, shopping is more than just checking out. It's discovering something new every day. Start with today's special value. Then explore exciting finds across the brands and categories you love. From beauty and fashion to home, culinary, and outdoor living. Shop now at QVC.com.

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1:02:40Tim Dillon:Watch out for Bongino going rogue in the Trump world. Watch out for this. This is obviously, I'm not breaking news, it's being reported everywhere, but I am contextualizing, I believe, what they think they're doing, What they think they're doing is pivoting everybody to watch a reality show whilst they ignore a lot of the calls to release this stuff. That's what I think is happening. I would guarantee it's happening. And I would watch that. This is something important to do. Know when you're being played, I think. I think we're all getting played a little bit. Recession this year, they say it's coming.

1:03:18Tim Dillon:Maybe if you go to calcethe.com, let's bet. How about we bet on a recession? Make money from the recession. Someone's gonna. Someone always does. I love Calci because you can really fuck around and set up your own markets. I'm not into sports, so I don't bet on sports. But I like coming up with markets like, will there be a recession this year? How many people are gonna get it this year? Is Israel gonna occupy Gaza? is, will Trump serve out the rest of his term? That's an interesting one with these tech, but I just don't know. Do they want Vance in there as opposed to Trump? See, the thing with the Yarvin types, they haven't found the guy.

1:04:07Tim Dillon:Trump's not the guy. What they want, they don't want, like I thought like, oh, they want this charismatic guy, but I don't think they want that. I think they actually just want a boring actor. I think they want a boring actor who will just get up there and do whatever they want. Trump commands a large following, but he's a little too volatile for their purposes. I think they just want a boring, empty suit, and they're going to get one, some type of Manchurian candidate. But they've used Trump, and they're going to continue to use him until they feel his brand is damaged, and then they're going to jump and try to use someone else.

1:04:42Tim Dillon:I don't know who that will be. Certainly could be Vance, but they might go to somebody else. I don't know, but they are the power to watch behind the throne. They want this government run by tech oligarchs who have only the interests of that community and they're going to say their interests are all of our interests. That's what they're going to say. But of course they're wrong. who will leave the Trump administration this year? Who will go? I don't know. My money's on Bongino. I think Bongino's going to go. I think Bongino's going to go and come back to the world of podcasting. That's my guess.

1:05:25Tim Dillon:That's my thought. I don't know. I don't know. If he goes to an adult summer camp, if Dan Bongino leaves the Trump administration and goes to an adult summer camp, I'm going to lose my fucking mind. summer's over already did you notice that by the way it's like august fucking whatever and summer's over what is that summer goes to late september kids should go back to school in in september 9th or 10th and then september 11th we sit them down and we go and look what happened that's what should start school is 9 11 you go back a few days after labor day and you sit there and you watch those planes go in.

1:06:13Every kid, you watch those planes go in.

1:06:18Tim Dillon:That was the beginning of our year. Of course, it was the actual time that it happened. It was not a remembrance. It was the actual one. But that's what they should, every kid should start their school, their year every year with 9-11. School starts with 9-11 and then it progresses to Halloween. that's what should happen god damn it so head on over to Calci and bet on some shit well keep watching the Clintons are subpoenaed a lot of stuff's gonna happen it's clear that Trump has set up this reality show to see who is going to get pilloried and then removed he does this all the time he's doing it again And let's see what happens.

1:07:11Tim Dillon:They do not have control of the story. They don't have control of the narrative. It's spinning out of control. And it's always interesting when something is spinning out of control, how they try to bring it back within their thing. And I think what they're trying to do is say, look, it's actually a reality show. Who fucked up? Who did it? Who done it? And it's like, no, no, no. We see what you're doing. It's a game of three, Cardamonte. And I think a lot of people now, the jig is up. The jig is up. Now, of course, we have to end with this ad, which is awkward. The Tim Dillon Show is sponsored by Palantir.

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