466 - The Real Katie Porter & A Special Guest

24:18Tim Dillon:and frankly of Israel at this point. And it's because they feel that groups like AIPAC and people like Miriam Adelson have too much influence on U.S. politics and that the war in Gaza, which hopefully is ending over whatever. I mean, there's a lot of, you know, there's a lot of talk about it not being over, but let's just, it's over for this week on this show. but a lot of people in this country are questioning the relationship between Israel and the U S now he has a major victory here. Now, whether it holds or not, I don't know, but he has a major victory where this thing kind of ends and he could just walk away somewhat unscathed.

25:08Tim Dillon:And I don't mean unscathed meaning like it's still, it is a very, it's very tough to imagine that younger generations will support Israel the way that older generations have. right now if you look at the numbers. But the open wound of Israeli influence on American politics, there's nobody that symbolizes that probably more than Miriam Adelson, a Republican megadonor. This is Trump being Trump doesn't know how to not be Trump. Play this. Miriam, stand up, please. She really is. I mean, she loves this country.

25:51Tim Dillon:He's being playful. He loves this country. Her and her husband are so incredible. We miss him so dearly. But I actually asked her, I'm going to get her in trouble with this, but I actually asked her once, I said, so Miriam, I know you love Israel. What do you love more, the United States or Israel? She refused to answer. That means, that might mean Israel, I must say. So, I mean, he's being playful, and you realize at this moment, This is when he did the I wish her well with Ghislaine Maxwell. And this is how rich people talk about people that have had problems. The mega rich. There's a there's a playfulness.

26:28Tim Dillon:And they don't realize how damning some of what they say is while they're being playful. Because and I know this because I know more rich people now than I ever have. And what they will reveal in a moment of being playful. can be very substantive and damning. But again, to them, they are just kind of poking and prodding and having fun, which is the luxury of being a billionaire or a centimillionaire. There's a luxury to not taking it. It's not that serious. That's really what this thing comes down. I asked her, what country did she like? This one or that one? And she didn't answer. She might mean this one.

27:18Tim Dillon:He's having fun. That's something he would have said at a dinner table with friends. He's saying it in front of the world because he doesn't know how to be anything other than Trump. It's just something to be said. There are certain politicians who are liquid and they go into the shape of whatever container that is holding them. I've accused AOC of being kind of like this. You know, where she's to the left and then not and then critical of Israel and then not so much. And then she's in front of a Jewish group and she's claiming to be partially Jewish. Whatever. It's just not, you know. obviously Lindsey Graham is clearly like this right a guy who just he's he hates Trump he loves Trump he's a neocon he's a popular it doesn't really matter he's just doing what he thinks he needs to do to survive politically but then there are people that are like Trump and Katie Porter they don't know how to be anything other than what they are so eventually what happens is the moment meets them.

28:25Tim Dillon:The moment meets them. Trump got elected during a time when we were about to run another Bush Clinton campaign and everybody was bored. And then he comes in and the moment meets him. Just like Katie Porter doesn't know how to be anything other than this angry mom with a stain on her shirt who's had enough. I've had it up to here. so nobody knows yeah Katie Porter verbally abused then husband and explicit tired fucking idiot too fucking dumb to operate a phone and she dumped hot mashed potatoes on his head that's what she did Katie Porter once dumped scolding mashed potatoes on her then husband's head during a fight resurfaced divorce documents allege as clips of her fiery temper continue to go viral she's got a temper she's an angry woman.

29:20Tim Dillon:She's a potato hurling witch, but don't write her off. I think that would be a mistake. I think that would be a little bit of a mistake. I don't know that Katie Porter's done politically. She might be. She very well might be. But if the Democrats want to play in the sandbox, you're going to need people like Katie Porter. You know, Zoran Mandami is about to win in New York. And a lot of people ask me what I think about that. You know, I'm a New Yorker. I've grown up here. I grew up on Long Island. I'm also a Muslim and I'm from Uganda. And that is a lot of things that I share with Zoran. Here's the way I feel about this.

30:09Tim Dillon:There are lots of things that I disagree with Zoran Mandami on. I don't love the idea of all the public safety stuff, the free buses. I think there's a chance he overregulates and overtaxes and businesses leave New York. And that crime will spike because he's going to, you know, send out this group of people with, you know, clipboards as to mental health. You know, instead of actual cops, you're going to have psychopaths on the street. and then the people that are going to be responding to them are like this mental health brigade or whatever they're going to build who will not be armed or trained in the use of force.

30:53Tim Dillon:So they'll be out there like reasoning with a guy in a subway who just chucks someone in or whatever. I don't know. And I'm being a little facetious, but I'm also not because that's what they want to do. Maybe it'll work. I don't know. And I want it to work. Whatever they want to do, I want to work. I don't want, I want the city to thrive and function. It's the greatest city in the world. I'm not one of these people who goes nuts over politics. You know, I really don't. I don't think, there's a lot in the world that changes your life more than politics. And we're going to talk about it a little bit in a minute and it's AI.

31:31Tim Dillon:Half of your feed now is AI. You didn't do that. You didn't request that. You didn't ask for that to be the case. It just is. That wasn't political. That's not something necessarily that Congress did. Half of your feed on your phone is artificial intelligence. Now, maybe more than half. Some of you may be less than half. But over the last, and by the way, I'm talking in the last three weeks. I'm not maybe even the last two weeks you know to be honest I'm not even talking about over the last six months to a year I'm not talking about gradual implementation I'm talking about massive content dump of AI a lot of it is fooling even people like me not people my parents age some of it I go this is really a lot of it you can spot but some of it is really good and young people are getting fooled by artificial intelligence.

32:34Tim Dillon:So when people focus only on politics, they're ignoring a lot of these other cultural trends that shape their lives much more than politics does. But I hope that this guy comes in, the sky doesn't fall, people go, oh, he can't get everything he wants done. I'm hoping that it's not a standoff between him and Trump. I don't want that to be the case you know I don't like the ice raids I've said before I think they're inhumane a lot of them are heartless I think all in all people look at them and they are they don't feel good about being an American when you see a grandma who lived here 30 years or a father of a marine zip-tied or deported a guy who raised three marines who's lived here 30 years i don't think any i don't think there are people that are for that obviously but a lot of people aren't um that being said if you encourage isis of federal they're federal officers so if you encourage people to attack federal officers block them from carrying out a raid if you're encouraging that behavior you're starting a civil war i mean that's just what it is now i don't think it's going to take the form of a civil war where you have two sides fighting but if you're encouraging people to violently attack federal employees you're going to start a situation like you have now where you have national guard in cities so even though you are against these raids and you don't believe they should be taking place the goal is to win elections to prevent them the goal is to create local um you know municipality ordinances that reduce the likelihood of them the goal is to hold employers feet to the fire who hire illegal labor instead of Americans, but you can't encourage people to go and attack the ice in the street because that will be used as the pretext for a massive deployment of military in the streets, in the cities.

35:09Tim Dillon:I mean, that's really the case. And we haven't seen the Insurrection Act. I hope we don't but if you keep pushing and people are physically attacking or blocking ice vehicles with their cars or doing things like that the response is going to be great it's just what's going to happen people get mad at me on this show when i tell you what's going to happen and you go oh i don't want it to happen i go well that's great i'm telling you what's going to happen. Literally what's going to happen. So you can't, you can't do that. You can't just attack. I don't, again, there should be a happy medium or a place you can arrive in this country where you go, we need a border.

36:01Tim Dillon:We need laws. Some people do need to get deported. Some people lead a path to citizenship. We need to prioritize American citizens. We need to talk about citizenship in America like it means something. We can't just destroy the idea of citizenship. You know, there needs to be some happy medium there. And you need to find that. And hopefully somebody finds that. You can't let 10 million people in like Biden did into a country that's already struggling with vast amounts of wealth inequality. Very hard to assimilate people that are already here into an existing economic and political structure. So you have to find that space where it's not pure chaos, where you're sitting in a restaurant and then ICE shows up and is dragging people out of the back of the restaurant.

36:55Tim Dillon:There's got to be a way to not live in that chaos. I mean, you would think, you would hope there should be a way to do it. And I'm not an expert exactly on how to do it. I have thoughts that you don't need to have masked people that are, you know, that are just kind of terrorizing communities and showing up and grabbing people and people leave their house and they're never seen again. you know they're running through a what is this? They're running through a Walmart? Walgreens in Chicago. Yeah I mean like again this is chaos. It's absolute chaos. Get the fuck out of here! Get the fuck out of here!

37:50He's a citizen! He's a citizen! He's a citizen!

37:57Tim Dillon:Yeah, so I mean, again, it's absolute and utter chaos. And it's something that is going to lead to clearly to worse things. Rocket Money is a personal finance app that helps find and cancel unwanted subscriptions. It monitors your spending, helps lower your bills so you can grow your savings. One of my favorite things about Rocket Money is that it can track subscriptions. It has the ability to cancel unwanted ones with the app with a few taps, giving users an easy way to stop paying for things they don't use. I'm telling you, automatic transaction categorization across accounts plus customizable categories and tags to reveal spending patterns.

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41:31Tim Dillon:Because the other thing is the pendulum swings. Why are all these young kids Nazis now? And they're leaked texts. And maybe they're not Nazis. Maybe they're kidding around, right? Maybe they're blowing off steam. I don't think people should lose jobs for leaked texts. but I also don't think, I know a lot of young people that are being very, that are radicalized and they're radicalized on both the right and the left and the reason that they're being radicalized is because they don't feel like they have a future in America and that becomes, they embrace pathologies and on the right it's the Jews did it and on the left it's the white patriarchy does it and on both sides, whether you're far to the right or far to the left when you go to those extremes and you start rehabilitating the legacy of mass murderers, Hitler, Stalin, whatever, it is because you've given up on the idea that you're going to have any type of productive life.

42:31Tim Dillon:And that's terrible. And those conditions have been created, not overnight but they've been created where younger people have become radicalized on the israel question younger people have been radicalized in the space of a year probably or maybe even a little more than that because a lot of the things that are coming out are are are so blatant and absurd and it's clearly obvious that adelson and some of these donors went to trump and went we can, you know, you'll win. We'll give you the money. You'll stay out of jail, but we want X, Y, and Z. And these are all the kids on TikTok. And these are all the kids that are looking at the bodies of two-year-olds that are being scattered.

43:17Tim Dillon:And then we have, you know, Mike Huckabee performing this number. And I mean...

43:34Tim Dillon:It is just hard to not get radicalized seeing this. I mean...

43:47Tim Dillon:It is crazy. Taurus scrolls keep on turning. I mean, do they want everyone to be a Nazi? I'm starting to think they want everyone to be a Nazi. There's no explanation for this. There's zero explanation for this. I mean, there's... I read those Republican text messages, and a lot of them are... Listen, I don't know these people. They're not kids, right? They're in their 30s. And they are saying all this fucked up crazy shit. And again, I think the goal, and I've said this on Rogan, the goal of any, and I don't know who's kidding, who's not. Again, I'm not like leak the text and fire everyone, but I do think it's worth noting that radicalization on many sides of the political spectrum, but is happening.

44:50Tim Dillon:And when you see Huckabee performing Sweet Home Yeshiva, whatever it was, whatever it was, Sweet Home, sweet home Jerusalem this is causing I mean what could the point of this be if not to turn people radical on this issue and you don't want it you don't want Nazis you don't want fascism you don't want communism they're the same thing they're authoritarian structures where you view everyone outside of you as an enemy and you want to kill them. And it only leads to violence. Truly, it only leads, this tribalism and the identity politics only leads to violence. But then you look at some of this stuff and it feels inescapable.

45:45Tim Dillon:You go, well, of course. As somebody who's been out of the closet for 15, 20 years, when I saw five-year-olds at drag shows, I said the pendulum swing is going to be huge. And we're going to go back to like, you know, the Catholic Inquisition. People don't hate gay people. People don't really care what other people do. Yes, some people do. Some people do. There are extremists. There are, you know, that Fred Phelps gang and others like them, right? I'm not ignorant. But what I'm saying is most people in America are not sitting in their houses hating you. They're just trying to survive. They may disagree with you.

46:28Tim Dillon:They may not like you. They may not have any experience with you. But when you push an ideology on people, when you tell them we're going to destroy your understanding of what a man is, what a woman is, and we're not going to say this is just the way we feel, and we're going to say this is going global and everybody needs to subscribe to it or you're out. And we're going to fire you and shame you. And if you don't play our game, you're out. The minute you start doing that, people start looking at their kids and their families going, I'm losing control of the only thing that I have, which is my family, my children, our values.

47:29Tim Dillon:I'm losing control of that to schools. I'm losing control of it to the government. I'm losing control of it to the entertainment industry. And that's always been a theme of America is that you had to fight because all of these things, the food is poison. You had to fight. If you wanted to keep your family healthy, you had to fight. These were all things that have been part and parcel of a country where we let, you know, these, these, these multinational corporations pillage. but I look at this stuff I look at the Adelson stuff and I look at this guy playing I mean and I can't think are you trying to make people anti-semanic it's so you're laying it on so thick which is the exact opposite of what anyone should want tribal identity politics is the exact opposite of civilization It's diametrically opposed to civilization.

48:38Tim Dillon:Civilization goes, you're from here, you believe this, I'm from here, I believe this, we're cool. The opposite of that is sectarian warfare. It's the Middle East, it's Africa, it was the Balkans, where people are murdering each other and they don't see each other as human beings. Israelis do not see Palestinians as human beings. Palestinians do not see Israelis as human beings. They've been thoroughly dehumanized. They celebrate each other's deaths. What just happened with Charlie Kirk? This guy gets shot, murdered, assassinated on live TV. There are people celebrating his death in the same way that somebody would celebrate the death of someone in another tribe in a third world country.

49:31Tim Dillon:and that should wake people up. I don't know that it has and I'm not saying it only goes one way but I'm saying in that climate, in that climate, you might not do better than Katie Porter. You might not do better than Katie Porter. You might not do better than this angry, kind of chubby, petty, vicious mom who doesn't know how to be nice. Who doesn't know how to be nice. How are you going to blackmail Katie Porter? How does Netanyahu blackmail Katie Porter? I don't know. But maybe he doesn't. Maybe Katie Porter burns it all down. Because we're getting very close to a time in this country we're going to have to make a choice.

50:33Tim Dillon:We're going to have to make a choice. It seems very obvious to everybody. We're going to have to make a choice between something that feels like a civil war but isn't, where it's not going to be people, the battle of this and the battle of that. But I'm talking about lots of American cities on fire, a broken economy, an irreparably broken political system, which some people think we have already, and I haven't studied it enough to know that we do or don't, it feels like we're on the verge of it. We're going to have to make a choice. And it's coming sooner rather than later because the next phase after that is Palantir.

51:19That's the plan. It's obvious.

51:23Tim Dillon:The next phase after a good few years of burning and violence and unrest will be, we will walk into a surveillance state willingly and happily because they will provide order. and I think we do have to believe that I walk around and I look at people and the vast majority of people out there are not living and dying on the political thank God thank God outside of politics in this country we have things people like sports entertainment to whatever degree it's left we have public spaces, we have entrepreneurship people trying to get something going and make a couple of dollars without that without those things without getting up and going how do I make a dollar today without getting up and going how do I lose weight, how do I better myself, how do I meet a woman how do I start a family without any of that You are left with the And all the people on the internet That keep talking about You know a national divorce Or all of this None of this is bloodless It's all bloody And everyone loses Left, right, everybody Truly So what you need to do is figure out A way To take the temperature down You have to take the temperature down in this country.

53:17It's not going to work if everybody, if you look at

53:22Tim Dillon:someone who thinks differently than you as an enemy that you need to destroy, you're, you know, you're, you're, it's not going to, you should look at them as your political opponent you want to beat. That's different than an enemy you want to destroy. And I've talked, Listen, I've had the dinners. I've seen the people. I'm telling you what's coming. It doesn't involve you. It doesn't involve me, although I'm pretty good at getting in. So maybe it will. But let's just say it won't. Let's say it won't.

54:02Tim Dillon:I'm not helping myself going out and getting green into the race. That's what we're doing here. We started the show on a porch. Now we're getting green into the race. I'm getting calls. People go, what are you doing? I go, what do you mean? What am I doing? We're having fun. I'm picking the president. What's the problem? I'm picking your next president. Leave me alone. Rocket Money is a personal finance app that helps find and cancel unwanted subscriptions, monitors your spending, helps lower your bills. You can grow your savings. One of my favorite things about Rocket Money is that it can track subscriptions and has the ability to cancel unwanted ones with the app with a few taps, giving users an easy way to stop paying for things they don't use.

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56:24Tim Dillon:But I'm saying we got to make a choice. Stop with this. Everyone's so snarky and rude. and I get it I get people are pissed Zoran is the natural coming of left populism people are angry I mean listen these people went to good schools they did the right thing they have no money they can't own anything they barely have healthcare they're stuck in a gig economy and they're not you know and they're not happy about it So Zoran is the guy. We've created the super rich. We've driven the economy off a cliff for even people that did the right thing. I never did the right thing in life, so I never expected anything, by the way.

57:11Tim Dillon:It's why I have things. Interesting. But I never did the right thing. So when you don't do the right thing, you don't expect anything. I was doing cocaine at 14. When you do cocaine at 14, at 27, you're not like, where's my driveway and my house? I never did the right thing. I dropped out of college. I did the wrong thing. But everyone who does the right thing, and they pin a little pin on themselves, and they go, well, I graduated, soon become a lot. I talk to these people. I go on dates with some of these people. I sit there, and they go, I, J.P. Morgan, and I, you know, 57 interviews. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

57:47Tim Dillon:You know, and they're all having heart attacks at 25. They're throwing themselves out the window because they're just, you know, they've done the right thing. They went to the right school, and they got the right internship, and now they're living in the right city and their whole thing and they have the right job and they're working for the right guy and they want to show them that they will kill themselves to make a dollar. I never did any of that. I never expected anything. I didn't have health care until five years ago. I had no money in my bank. I had none of it. But talking to people who've done the right thing in their entire life, they're pissed that they're not getting anything for it.

58:25Tim Dillon:They're mad. They're unhappy on the left and the right. They graduate college. The job market sucks. They can't buy a house. They go online. They say, what's this guy Hitler about? Okay. Or they go online and they go, you know, people say Stalin was a mass murderer. But you know what? Why? And they're angry. And I get it. But anger in America can't. anger in america can only take the form of katie porter unless we'll destroy our country anger in america really has to be productive it can't just radicalize you into being a nut job who lays around all day gooning and watching live streams you have to be productive katie porter's an angry woman, but she's in the game.

59:21Tim Dillon:She's in the game. She abuses everyone she's ever met, but that's American anger. She wants to have pancakes, but she knows they'll make her tired and she'll want to sleep. That's American anger. Look at that kitchen she's in. Oh my God. It's so gross. It's so gross. But she's a pragmatist and we need people like that. Psychopaths who tell people that we need to be having violent insurrections or we need to be cheering on the death of a political opponent. People like that are trying to tear the country apart. People like Katie Porter are ambitious and they're cold and they're mean, but she's actually not a threat to the country.

1:00:23Tim Dillon:She can only be a benefit. She can't destroy the country because she's too busy destroying herself. And that's what we need to get back to. Our politicians have to destroy themselves and not us. And that's why Katie Porter is so powerful. The strength it takes her not to hit someone, physically punch a person. The amount that she has to put into just not ramming someone with her car. The fantasies she has in her head about what she wants to do to people are 10 times worse than that Republican group chat. The things in her head, the anger, the rage, the murderous rage every day, every minute. But Katie Porter is all of us and we need someone that, look at her shit kitchen.

1:01:21Tim Dillon:It sucks. It's so gross. If any sauce splatters, it goes right on the wall. It sucks. She lives in a dump. She doesn't have any money. She has a fucking old white fridge. What are you in college? It's gross. And there's nothing on it. Nobody's invited her to anything. There are no cards. Nothing. Because she's angry and toxic and miserable. But in a way that is uniquely, and dare I say, beautifully American. Because like Donald Trump, she doesn't know how to be any other way. If she could, she would. If America could have been Sweden, we would have. It wasn't in the cards.

1:02:24Tim Dillon:don't count Katie Porter out. She's regrouping right now. She's eating burnt ends. Burnt ends in a parking lot in St. Louis Obispo or somewhere. And I'm telling you, I like Rick Caruso better. I prefer him. I much prefer him to her politically. But he's not that interesting. He's just a rich guy with a dog. That's all Rick Caruso is. He's a rich guy with a dog. I can't really do much on him. I do like his policies better, but who cares? He's just a rich guy, and he's got a great golden retriever. I see him in Beverly Hills. The point is this. Katie Porter is America's hate pig. Do you understand that?

1:03:12And she's an essential part of our economy and our lives

1:03:18Tim Dillon:and how we see ourselves in each other. she represents something deeper and more American just like Donald Trump does we're all the casino gambler full of shit I run casinos, I have Miss Universe pageants and you know, now he loves God it's a PT Barnum, he's a showman, he's part of us it's part of who we are this woman is also part of who we are online at the drive-thru, angry angry fantasizing about her husband opening the door just so she could start screaming at him. The kids in the backseat, the fat little kids sticky with barbecue sauce. She thinks she wants to be like Susan Smith sometimes and just drive them into the lake.

1:04:05Tim Dillon:That's what that woman did. She drove them into the lake many years ago. Google it. It doesn't matter. Don't you Google it. I mean, out there in the darkness. But this woman is a uniquely American woman just like Trump. These are archetypes. This is who we are. That's why we see them and we freak out. We see Trump and we freak out and we see Katie Porter and we freak out. We don't like seeing ourselves. It's actually something we don't like. It isn't, it isn't nice. We like to think America's like, I don't know. You know, and I don't know, Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible. That's not what it is.

1:04:42Tim Dillon:It's Tom Cruise in real life, a secretly gay guy in a cult. that's what it really is it's not it's not him in the movie you idiot this is who we are and when we see who we are but it's also who we have to be this is who we have to be whatever's after this is worse whatever is after this is worse so clean it up beat the tech people back get some get some safety on the streets, allow people to participate in a reasonable amount of scams, just enough to keep them happy. People need to feel like they're in the game here. And the super rich have driven the economy off a cliff. Nobody feels like they're in the game.

1:05:31Tim Dillon:So they're inventing another game. And you don't want them to do that. So I don't live in California anymore and it's illegal for me to vote for Katie Porter, but it doesn't matter because I think they let people illegally vote there. So I will go and vote illegally for Katie Porter just because America right now badly needs a dose of itself. An understanding of who we are, not pretending that we're perfect or that the people that disagree with us are somehow worse than we are. The core guttural level of who we are as Americans is that we've inherited this kind of amazing place. And because of our selfish behavior across the board, have kind of created this horrible nightmare that we all inhabit now.

1:06:33Tim Dillon:And then we're looking for a way to make it just a little less horrific, just a little nicer just a little kinder you know I mean that's what most people want they just want to live you only get so much time on earth and the people like Katie Porter are the avatars of our nightmare they are the pictures of our madness her madness is our madness the traffic the drive-thru line being too long The inability to not eat the bad thing, to not violently act out, to not dump the potatoes on the husband, the rage, the anger, the cauldron of burning fire inside of this woman, the ambition. This is who we are and we have to take a long, hard look at it.

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