475 - Rob Reiner, Redacted Files, & The Spirit Of Friendship

20 Dec 2025 · 1 h 20 min · 27 chapters

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In short

The episode is a wide-ranging rant about right-wing political spectacle and fundraising tactics, the “redacted” status of the Jeffrey Epstein files, alleged factional conflict inside U.S. intelligence agencies, and the media/political response to recent high-profile violence (including the Brown University and MIT shootings). The host also argues that Hollywood/media events are exclusionary and claims he was blacklisted from major LA parties.

Guests (named)

Erica Kirk (Turning Point USA). Background: described as a friend of the show and involved in political media; she’s quoted discussing JD Vance and President Trump’s agenda. Alan Horn is mentioned via a clip/segment about his friendship with Rob Reiner and Castle Rock Entertainment. Background: long-time entertainment executive/consultant (Warner Bros. Discovery/CNN parent company mentioned). No other guests are clearly interviewed in the provided transcript.

Key claims

The host says the widow’s political messaging after a husband’s assassination feels “grotesque” and “reality-show” like. He claims Epstein files are redacted because of intelligence/blackmail networks and internal government factions, not because of Trump protecting friends. He also claims the FBI/other agencies mishandle investigations and that “homeless” Reddit tips are portrayed as crucial.

Notable examples

A Turning Point USA clip about electing JD Vance; references to Epstein files (500 pages blacked out); Brown University and MIT shootings allegedly connected; Reddit post used in the Brown case; claims about Kash Patel and Joe Kent/Tulsi Gabbard oversight disputes.

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Chapters

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Reflections on a Controversial Figure

0:44 to 1:28

Tim discusses a woman’s response to her husband's death in a political setting.

“I don't care if that woman killed her husband.”

The Discomfort of Political Spectacles

1:28 to 3:00

Exploring the unsettling nature of political events and their presentation.

“And it's all of the fault of everyone, by the way.”

Reality Show Comparisons

3:00 to 6:00

Tim likens political events to reality television and examines their impact.

“are the exact same thing as the Hollywood elites that they all love to dunk on.”

Personalities Over Ideas

6:00 to 10:40

Discussion on how politics has shifted focus from ideas to personalities.

“I don't agree with a lot of these people.”

Social Dynamics at a Party

10:40 to 14:00

Tim shares observations from a party about social interactions and respect.

“But it feels weird when you're watching it that all of these people have personal grudges and they're airing out, you know, things.”

The Superficial Social Contract

14:00 to 17:20

Explore the idea of superficial interactions at social gatherings and the acceptance of differing views.

“You know, especially if you can look at somebody who you disagree with in some real profound ways, but say we're both rich and successful.”

Reflections on Life and Death

17:20 to 19:50

Tim reflects on the fleeting nature of life, inspired by a tragic incident at a party.

“And I keep saying Rob Reiner, but instead I'm saying Harvey Weinstein just because it's LA and it's like such a bad, you know.”

Grief, Regret, and Social Invitations

23:25 to 27:47

Discussing the missed opportunities and regrets surrounding social events with influential figures.

“That's what the holidays are about, the real stuff.”

The Media's Reaction to Tragedy

27:47 to 28:06

Tim critiques the media's handling and language surrounding tragedies involving public figures.

Reflections on Friendship and Loss

28:06 to 28:38

Discussion on the impact of a friend's passing and the challenges of expressing condolences.

“thing i don't know it's not that one it's another one but you can edit that one in or whatever it doesn't matter the guy had problems the guy had drug issues i'm on i'm i i don't I don't pretend to know.”
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Critique of Podcast Awards

28:38 to 30:20

Tim Dillon critiques the credibility of podcast awards due to the exclusion of popular shows.

“And why was Tim Dillon not in the party to diffuse the situation?”

Comedian Party Shenanigans

30:20 to 32:39

Discussion on a recent party incident involving Nick Reiner and Bill Hader.

“This is your dear friend, one of your dearest friends.”

Personal Reflections on Missed Opportunities

32:39 to 33:32

Tim reflects on being at another event while missing a critical gathering.

“Again, I don't want to make it about me.”

Epstein Files and Conspiracy Theories

33:32 to 36:20

Discussion around the Epstein files, their redaction, and conspiracy theories surrounding them.

“Barry, honey, lovey, lovey dove, get off the air.”

Intelligence Community Insights

42:00 to 42:21

Discussion on the influence and actions of powerful factions within the intelligence community.

“I mean deeply powerful factions of our intelligence community blackmailing congressmen, senators, presidents, prime ministers.”

Factions Within the Intelligence Community

44:41 to 47:26

An exploration of the divides and factions within the U.S. intelligence community regarding foreign policy.

“This is Matt Rogers from Las Culture East.”

Public Rift in Intelligence

47:26 to 48:29

Discussion on the public conflict between figures like Tulsi Gabbard and Joe Kent regarding intelligence oversight.

“Even though I'm disappointed with Tulsi about a lot of shit.”

Joe Kent vs Kash Patel

48:29 to 52:39

Analyzing the tensions and differing perspectives between Joe Kent and Kash Patel within the intelligence framework.

“So right there is a public rift of that war that I'm talking about, that kind of, you know, underground conflict between factions in our intelligence community.”

Recent Shootings and Investigations

52:39 to 55:50

Discussion surrounding the recent shootings at Brown University and MIT and their potential connections.

“He tried to stop armed shipments to Ukraine.”

Breaking News on Shootings

55:50 to 56:00

Coverage of the breaking news regarding the shootings and their implications.

“Again, this is probably something that will disappear from the news in a day.”

Mass Shootings and the Search for Truth

56:00 to 1:02:30

Explore the complexities and oddities surrounding recent shootings at Brown University and MIT.

“That a guy walked onto the campus of Brown, shot these two people, and then shot a guy from MIT and he killed himself in a storage shed.”

The Role of Social Media in Crime Investigation

1:02:30 to 1:10:06

Discuss the unexpected reliance on social media posts for criminal investigations and the societal implications.

“Mohamed Aziz Umurkuzov and Ella Cook, and then murdered MIT professor Nuno Luriero.”

Introduction to Kewpie Mayo

1:10:12 to 1:11:00

Discover the unique flavor of Kewpie mayonnaise and its culinary uses.

“This is Matt Rogers from Las Culture East.”

Political Commentary on Current Events

1:11:00 to 1:15:48

Explore the complex political landscape and factions at play in current events.

“The Democrats will and should win the midterms, and hopefully they should win the next election.”

Details of the MIT Professor's Tragedy

1:15:48 to 1:19:26

Discuss the tragic events surrounding the MIT professor and the shooting incident.

“They're not going to bring it up, but they do hint every now and then that there's going to be a next thing.”

Reflection on Friendship and Power

1:19:26 to 1:24:01

Analyze the dynamics of friendship among powerful figures amidst political turmoil.

“about the mental health toll of a, quote, hyper-competitive culture.”

The Nature of Friendship and Politics

1:24:01 to 1:29:25

Explore the concept of friendship within the political landscape and its complexities.

“but she had to give him money to win it.”
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0:44Tim Dillon:Hello, everyone. And you know what? I don't care if that woman killed her husband. It's Christmas. I don't care. I don't care. It's Christmas. and I'm forgiving everyone and I'm happy to be here with all of you because we're about to start a new year and it's a time for hope and we don't want to get mired in the past. We want to go forward to the future and this turning point kind of abomination that the right wing of this country has turned into like a bad reality show. And it's all of the fault of everyone, by the way. It's the fault of everyone speaking and everyone attending. There's nobody that gets a...

1:40Tim Dillon:Everything about this is weird and uncomfortable for everyone. And obviously, I'm not saying she killed her husband. or knew about it or whatever. I'm saying the guy got shot three months ago and she walks out to a pyrotechnic display and then she goes, we're going to elect J.D. Vance. It's weird that that's where her head is at. It's difficult for many people to relate to. It's not relatable. For people that talked about how Hollywood isn't relatable and Hollywood is out of touch, this looks a lot like Hollywood to most people. and to go out through a stream of fireworks and sparklers and stand there in a glittering pantsuit and talk about electing J.D.

2:47Tim Dillon:Vance. Three months after your husband was killed, many people feel that there is something off about that and we're starting to see that political people are the exact same thing as the Hollywood elites that they all love to dunk on. And we all look at this. This is Megan Thee Stallion twerking at the Kamala rally. This is deeply unsettling to a lot of people. It feels like you're being played. You feel it. It seems off. You feel like this is a coordinated and choreographed spectacle so that you are played. They want your money. That's what they got mad at Candace about. They're like, why are you telling people not to give us money?

3:53Tim Dillon:She's also saying you killed the guy. Why are you mad about the money? They're just mad that they're not getting money. they want your money and they want to be celebrities. You know, and okay, some of them are, but it just feels odd. This is everything they hate that they don't like, that they're not about. They're not about this stuff. They believe in the sacred family and tradition and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And the women are in the house with the kids and what? What part of the traditionalism is the pyrotechnics and the fireworks? And it feels really weird. I mean, let's take a listen here to her.

4:50Tim Dillon:Yeah, I just, you know. And the woman's been through a lot. And I know that, you know, people are going to accuse me of being insensitive. But she feels like she's handling this death better than anyone I've ever seen. I mean, and by the way, kudos to her strength. I've never seen a human being bounce back like this. Talk about a bounce back. I've never in my life. I know people that have lost cats and dogs who couldn't do this in the time frame that she has done it. I give her her flowers. Okay? Like, God bless, you are killing it. It just feels to people, again, I have no investment in shitting on the woman.

6:05Tim Dillon:I don't care. I don't agree with a lot of these people. I don't, this organization means nothing to me. I don't, I don't think it's a evil thing or a good thing. I'm looking at this like a reality show that has gone off the rails. A reality show where someone, one of the producers of a reality show, because that's the way reality shows work. There are producers who get the women drunk, put them in a restaurant and go fight. And we got to film it. And the producers are the ones on the reality show that arrange the storyline of what you're gonna hear and see. One of those producers here needs to whisper in somebody's ear, hey, I don't know what this storyline is, but we think there's a high likelihood that this is gonna turn a lot of people off, that a lot of people are gonna see this The constant begging for the money.

7:23Tim Dillon:The constant J.D. Vance of it all. We're going to elect J.D. Vance. The election's three years away. There's something deeply unsettling about this spectacle. It makes Mamdani and AOC look great. The far left in this country, the Graham Plattners, they've been, and again, a lot of their policies I wouldn't love. But they seem mature and dignified. Truly. Because this has become like a weird, quasi-religious, like, undertaking that involves glittering sequined gowns and appeals for more and more money. and it doesn't feel, it feels righteous gemstones. It's righteous gemstones coated a little bit.

8:26You know, I don't get it.

8:30Tim Dillon:I don't know what this was supposed to be. Maybe this is what it's supposed to be. Can we listen to a little bit of friend of the show, erica kirk here at turning point usa let's play do we have the clip where she's talking about vance let's play that we're going to ensure that president trump has congress for all four years

9:02we are going to get my husband's friend jd vance elected for 48 and the most resounding way

9:10Tim Dillon:Yeah, I just feel, I cannot describe to you how if you were a normal human being, this gives you pause. Your spidey senses go off. You feel odd. If you're a normal human being, you look at this and you go 90 days after this guy tragically gets assassinated, this has become a very, very grotesque display of the quest for raw power led by his widow. It's like odd. To a lot of people. It's odd. There were things about it that were, you know, I'm sure nice. I'm sure they did a memorial. I don't know. Whatever. But this politicizing of her. I'm the CEO. I'm carrying his message. That leaves a lot of people feeling odd.

10:25And fine. Whatever.

10:29Tim Dillon:and I'm sure there's a lot of people that love it. There's a lot of people that love it.

10:39But every speech that I watched,

10:43Tim Dillon:I only watched a few, was a speech that, and I watched Shapiro and Tucker, this is descending into a movement about personalities

11:04Tim Dillon:about personalities about people not really about ideas it's kind of become about people and it's kind of become boring um and it's not to say that there aren't like important issues at stake. But it feels weird when you're watching it that all of these people have personal grudges and they're airing out, you know, things. Listen, there are people that I don't get along with that may not like me. And it's not even that I don't get along with them. They just may view me in a negative light because they have an impression of me that is negative. And I may feel the same way about other people. The minute you start engaging in this kind of back and forth and banter, it feels very small.

12:11Tim Dillon:the thing kind of degenerates into a very small petty and even the trump stuff it's not as fun it used to be very fun now it's dark the rob reiner stuff it gets dark i was at a party in silver lake the east side of la where the artsy people live and there were people there that probably don't love me. But I was there for a friend's special release party and everyone there was really, really cool. And maybe some of them didn't like me. And I have no problem with any of them. I'm judging based on, you know, an idea that some of the people there may have hated my guts. But I don't know. But did, probably.

13:04Tim Dillon:But it was a lovely event because nobody really talked about anything that would be controversial. You know, nothing came up. It was very, and I don't care if people leave and hate me. or, you know, I leave and hate them. And I don't think anyone's really hating anyone. But I think like maybe there are people there that are like, I don't know about that guy. And that's fair. But we didn't get into it on any level, nor would we ever because, you know, I feel like there's nothing to be gained from that. You know, especially if you can look at somebody who you disagree with in some real profound ways, but say we're both rich and successful.

14:21Tim Dillon:And many of the people at this party, they're not. and even though you may not love some of my ideas and I don't love some of your ideas, I respect the fact that you are rich and successful and I just want that respect from you as well and I got it. It's actually lovely. And we can have a very fake, superficial, good time at this party because that's what life's about. That is what life is about. It's not about getting to the bottom of it. Lies. Lies. It's not about burying a hatchet. What hatchet? What? It's not about mutual understanding. and it certainly ain't about mutual respect. It ain't about any of that.

15:28Tim Dillon:What it's about is a surface level acknowledgement that we can simulate. This is a simulation. And in this simulation, at this moment, we're friendly and we are and no matter what happens you can leave and you can go on social media that fascist pig it's okay it's okay because when it mattered we both showed up and whoever it is whoever these people in the world are that you have issues with you can show up to be a fake version of yourself. You can be a hollow version of yourself. You can come and make small talk and build on that. You can build on nothing. And build more nothing. Until you have castles of nothing.

16:53Tim Dillon:And that's where we can all live. In castles of nothing. Why would we argue about anything? We can just, we're human beings. People are human beings. Okay? That's my point. I was at this party and I was like, Harvey, fuck, I keep saying, I don't know why I'm saying this. And I keep saying Rob Reiner, but instead I'm saying Harvey Weinstein just because it's LA and it's like such a bad, you know. At the party, we found out that Rob Reiner was killed by his son, a tragic event. We've all wanted to kill our parents. We don't do it. You don't do it. Okay? It's the holidays. Now, you realize in that moment When he is killed by his son You realize that life is short Not for him, he lived a long life But you realize that life is precious Why argue about nonsense he was at Conan O 'Brien's party having an argument with his parents the night before when you hear that you realize Conan O 'Brien at a party you weren't invited to that's what I realized and I thought about that and people said it's horrible that that man lost his life and I said where was that party and they said it was horrible he stabbed his mother and his father and I said, is it in the Palisades house?

18:40Tim Dillon:Because he still has that house that didn't burn down. And they went, well, the kid had been schizophrenic his whole life. He's been in and out of rehab and it was like a really big, and I go, who, who, who gets to go to that? Is it like people he handpicks or that's what's important. Do you know how much better this episode would have been if I was at the Conan O 'Brien Christmas party? Do you know how much more worthwhile this whole thing would have been? Had I been a witness to that. But I was not invited. I was not invited because there's an idea in this town that I'm not a team player. Simply because I have trashed people publicly and privately.

19:26Tim Dillon:And the directors of huge film franchises. And agents and managers and business managers. And my colleagues. Other actors. Politicians. members of the judiciary, my family, personal friends. Because of that, I am blacklisted from events that I would be fucking great at. So I'm forced to be in a Silver Lake backyard, okay? Making peace with whatever, like people, instead of being, okay, Emmy winners, a few, One or two. Total respect. Shows I like and watch. But I'm not at other things that I should be at. I literally should be invited to every party in this town. And when you hear that somebody was stabbed to death by their child in their house, and before that, they were at a huge party that you weren't invited to, the first instinct you have is why?

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23:32Tim Dillon:This man, this legend of comedy Rob Reiner and his wife Michelle Tragically meeting their end And you know, you think I never met him I was never invited to his home There's so many people I have not met That I deserve to meet And that's what you really start to think about You start to think about the people you haven't met, the parties you haven't been to, the things you haven't done. That's what the holidays are about, the real stuff. And the fake, superficial, but lovely chats you could have with many people that have a myriad of views and they don't, they don't have to agree with you. You're at a party and they're at a party.

24:31You know?

24:33Tim Dillon:That's the whole thing. And if this guy, and can I say something now? Can I just say a thing because I have this platform and it's all I have because I've been robbed of everything else? They've taken everything else from me. But can I say one thing and I don't, and I'm not throwing shade at anyone at that party. I'm certainly not throwing shade at Conan. I'm not throwing shade at any of these people. I think Bill Hader is a genius. I love Barry. People took a photo of him. I don't even know why. I don't even know why. Can I say one thing? Am I allowed on my own platform to say one thing? Had I been at that party and had I spoken to Nick Reiner, Rob Reiner's alive.

25:16Tim Dillon:He is. No, he is. No, he is. So I'm not trying to guilt anyone. I'm not trying to make anyone feel bad. but if I was at the Conan party, not even invited, if I was at the Conan party and I could have grabbed Nick Reiner and took him outside and given him a Marlboro Light and chatted with him, he was probably a fan of this show or other shows I've done and Nick Reiner medication for schizophrenia. Yeah, definitely watches this show. Definitely a podcast fan. I would have been able to convince him with my charm, with my wit, with my personality, I'm quick on my feet, I would have been able to say, hey, don't do this.

25:59Tim Dillon:Hey, don't do it. So I'm just saying the people that don't invite me have blood on their hands. Okay, and I don't mean to say, I'm not trying to be difficult. I'm actually not. It sounds like I am. I'm not trying, but if you have not invited me to a party in LA and somebody and a schizophrenic, my mother's a schizophrenic. I actually know how to handle them. I know how to handle them. First of all, the first thing you say to a schizophrenic is you're right. You don't argue with them. When I read, they were arguing with this schizo at Conan's fucking house, which I believe is actually beautiful.

26:40Tim Dillon:I wouldn't know. They're arguing with this schizo. You don't fight with a schizo. When my mother said something, I went, you're right, hon. Lock her up. You don't argue with a schizophrenic. You put them in a home. Now, so I don't know what the fight was about. I don't know what it was over. I don't know if it was political or whatever the case would be. Can you show the picture of Rob and the son? Because the son, no, no, no, not that one. You know the one everyone's sharing where you can see that the son has some problems. And by the way, it's a tragic thing that happened. And it didn't have to happen.

27:20Tim Dillon:Had I been there, it wouldn't have happened. I mean I don't know what to say I know people don't want to hear that They're going to be upset This is going to be another thing I won't get invited to another thing Did you hear what he said? He said he would have saved Robert Well I would have I know how to deal with schizophrenics Especially in a mansion My mother was living in a bungalow And we dealt with her I would know how to deal with a schizophrenic in a mansion That's actually what I'm designed for can you imagine me and a schizophrenic in a large kitchen it would work he would leave that house and he would go that's a great guy i met and i'm not killing anyone but instead we had the other thing i don't know it's not that one it's another one but you can edit that one in or whatever it doesn't matter the guy had problems the guy had drug issues i'm on i'm i i don't I don't pretend to know.

28:21Tim Dillon:Play this a little bit, please. Out front now, Alan Horn. He's a longtime friend of Rob Reiner. They were dear friends for over 50 years. They co-founded Castle Rock Entertainment together. Alan's currently a consultant for Warner Brothers Discovery, parent company, of course, of CNN. And Alan, I am really, it's hard to even find words to say, you know sorry for this shocking by the way can you stop that this is a pet peeve of mine what do you mean it's hard to find words you work at cnn your literal only job is to find words no one is asking you to do anything else except find words just find the words say i'm sorry for your loss that's what you say they all do this i can't even find the words here they are i'm sorry for your loss.

29:14Tim Dillon:Those are the words. And why was Tim Dillon not in the party to diffuse the situation? And then that guy would go, who the hell is that? And then she would go, you're part of the problem. There's a generational problem here in media and entertainment. Okay. By the way, the podcast awards, they don't nominate Rogan or Theo or Matt and Shane or Come Town. I mean, they should even posthumously. It's not around anymore, but they don't nominate the Tim Dillon show. They don't nominate Bad Friends. They don't nominate any of these shows, Flagrant, whatever. They don't nominate any of these things. They nominate none of those shows.

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29:56Tim Dillon:Yet, those shows are the most powerful shows in the world, supposedly, and elected the president, but none of them got nominated. That category has no credibility. And I like some of the people in that category, Amy Poehler, Smartless, whatever, but you have zero credibility if you're not nominating a few of the shows that I talked about. Not even mine. You don't have to nominate mine. Let's hear this, please. This is your dear friend, one of your dearest friends. And, you know, for anyone watching, I mean, this is a man that is with you on the day your daughter was born. On the day, right? Your daughter, Cody.

30:35Rob described you as like a big brother to him. how do you even process the fact that this has just happened?

30:47Tim Dillon:Well, Aaron, first of all, are they going to get to the thing? Yeah, we can't watch five minutes. Are we going to get to the spot where Bill Hader tried to get him kicked out of the party or something based on what he said? The couple's youngest son attended the comedian's party on Saturday with Rob, 78, and Michelle, 68. he was brought to the party so that his parents could keep an eye on him, sources told Rolling Stone. While there, however, Nick interrupted comedian Bill Hader with a series of unsettling questions, according to the Wall Street Journal. Nick allegedly asked Hader and several other guests the same set of questions.

31:28Tim Dillon:What's your name? What's your last name? Are you famous? By the way, fair. Nick allegedly asked Hader and several other guests the same set of questions. What's your name? What's your last name? Are you famous? I thought he was threatening to kill his parents at the party. Are these people angry that he questioned their fame? Maybe they were like, maybe they were standing there and he's like, are you famous? And they're like, what are you, a schizophrenic? I'm very famous. Rob and his son got into a heated argument during the party with one guest alleging that Rob told his son that his behavior was inappropriate.

32:07Tim Dillon:Another guest told the New York Times that Nick seemed anxious and uncomfortable through the night in a way that deeply unsettled them. A guest similarly revealed to people Nick was freaking everyone out, acting crazy, kept asking people if they were famous. Nick eventually was asked to leave and the bodies were found less than 24 hours. It's sad. This is tough. I get it. This is a tragic thing. Titan of comedy. Horrible. Not good. I should have been at the party. I would have been able to help. Again, I don't want to make it about me. I don't want it to be like, oh, it's about me. Not about me.

32:50Tim Dillon:I was at another lesser event in Silver Lake. God help me. Lovely people. Lovely people. Okay. I was at this party. And it was lovely. and they had latkes and it was a Hanukkah thing and there was comedy special. And it was lovely. It was nice. It was a rental in Silver Lake where I was.

33:16A rental.

33:17Tim Dillon:While there was someone who needed care. Someone who needed care in the Palisades and I could have been there to help, but I was not. Something to think about in the future but whatever

33:37the the

33:40Tim Dillon:Barry Weiss town hall with Erica Kirk flopped unfortunately it didn't do well and then Barry's now pursuing JD Vance for a town hall that's going to be a barn burner and then Elon Musk those are the two names she wants yeah it's not good It wasn't good. It was very boring. The town hall was very boring. It was just not fun. It was like terrible. Barry, honey, lovey, lovey dove, get off the air. Get into the back room. Get off the air. Nobody wants your pout. She pouts, Barry. She has a pout. It is not what people want when they turn on the tube. It's to see your pout. It's not. It's like a disappointed mom energy.

34:45Tim Dillon:We don't want it off. Does it work? So that flopped. The Epstein files, they said they were going to come out. They're not coming out. Or they're coming out, but they're heavily redacted. 500 pages in the Epstein files were entirely blacked out. It's very obvious to everyone that Jeffrey Epstein was an intelligence agent that was working on behalf of Israel and the United States to a degree. But this is why the files are not coming out. They're not. It's not because Trump is protecting billionaire friends that he's never cared about. He's not falling on the sword for his friends. That's not the Trump we know and love.

35:36Tim Dillon:The Trump we know and love is throwing people in front of a car so that he doesn't get hit. That's why people in this country elected him. That's the character of an American. The character of an American is someone who throws their wife in front of a fire to give themselves another few minutes to get out of the house. That's because America is about survival. It's about survival. It's not an emotional country. Like we're all psychotic, but it's not an emotional, like when people call me a nihilistic sociopath, like they do all the time in the press, I'm simply telling people what it is and no one wants to hear it.

36:19Tim Dillon:So they get all angry. The idea that this is like a deeply spiritual, country of loving people. It's like psychotic to believe that. Can you imagine believing that? That this country is full of heroic people, heroes? Heroes just walking around every day, giving of themselves for their communities and families? That, you couldn't convince someone of that. You couldn't convince Nick Reiner of that on whatever the hell he was on. So this idea that Donald Trump is falling on a sword For other billionaires that he doesn't want He doesn't want them to be seen in a bad light Doesn't make any sense Let's throw that explanation out Okay?

37:16Tim Dillon:Explanation number two The Kash Patel explanation There's nothing there There's thousands of pages of documents That have been redacted by the CIA and the FBI But none of them say anything Because nothing even happened Remember that was how this all started Pam Bondi and Kash Patel The Keystone Cops were like This thing's not even real So like what it's a hoax It's fake It's been grossly exaggerated And none of it He was a pervert and a freak But it was no accomplices he didn't do anything they said that there were no accomplices there's 15 pictures out right now of bill clinton michael jackson and this guy windsurfing or whatever and apparently this guy you know nothing was ever happening or going on because this was just like a weird rich guy a weird pervert and you know by the way it's funny you see these photos this is the only time you've ever seen any of these people having fun.

38:28Tim Dillon:So that was explanation number two, why they're not coming out. Explanation number three, which I find more plausible because I have gotten rid of explanation one and two. And to review, explanation one, Donald Trump feels really bad for like other people and wants to protect their image. That was explanation number one, that like Donald Trump is like hung up on the idea that like a buddy or two of his might go down here. And he's like, that like bums him out. So he's like going to fall on the sword and, you know, basically like take the heat for other people in an act of selflessness. He was going to throw himself in front of the bus because other people might be inconvenienced by this to say the least.

39:35Explanation number two, none of this ever happened.

39:40Tim Dillon:None of these people ever did anything wrong. There was no trafficking ring. There were no accomplices. Nothing, nothing even happened. Now that was explanation two given to you by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. That was their response. Remember, that was option two given to you by who? Your, your aunt? No, the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Now, option three, a reason that many people don't think it's coming out is because Jeffrey Epstein was working on behalf of intelligence agencies in Israel, America. Maybe he was working with the Brits, maybe the French. Maybe he got around. And what he was doing was he was a conduit between powerful people, people that were current government officials, former government officials, you know, corporate leaders, you know, whatever.

40:53Tim Dillon:The jet set, as they call them. And Jeffrey Epstein was finding ways for all of these people to make money whilst blackmailing them and videotaping their liaisons with underage people, their illegal, immoral, disgusting, evil acts, and then keeping the tapes or selling them to the highest bidder or using them as leverage. or whatever the case may be, but that would require, option three would require like a pretty like big public fallout when and if that information became public that our own government or an allied government was blackmailing people and when I say our government, I mean factions.

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45:27Tim Dillon:So that seems to be option three of why it hasn't come out. For example, you don't really have to know much about anything to know right now that it seems very likely and I've talked to smart people who believe that there's kind of a civil war within our intelligence community in America. One faction of our, and by the way, there's multiple factions in the intelligence community. It's not like one and then another and then that's it. But I'm going to talk about one of the divides that I have talked to smart people about. One of the divides is between a group of people in the intelligence community who believe we should get out of the Middle East.

46:21Tim Dillon:We should not support Israel in attacking Iran. We should divest from Russia and Ukraine and we should prepare to fight China. There are people in the national security establishment who believe that. This guy Briggs Colby, who you could bring him up. I want to say he works at the Department of Defense. I don't exactly know the position offhand. He's one of the people whom advocates that point of view, that we need to position ourself for a, you know, potentially inevitable conflict on some level with China. And that getting bogged down with Russia or the Middle East, these kind of endless foreign wars, regime change wars, you'd also put like Tulsi Gabbard in that group.

47:27Tim Dillon:Even though I'm disappointed with Tulsi about a lot of shit. Not that I don't like Tulsi Gabbard or that I don't think she's good at tough mutters and I like people from Hawaii or whatever, you know, whatever she does. I don't, you know. I like that. But I'm a little disappointed by the fact that, you know, I don't know, they gaslit people and they continue to do so. When she came out and was like, yeah, all these people are doing this. Say their names. What are you, you know, like, what are we, stupid? You know there's something going on because Joe Kent came out and ask Kash Patel, I want to look into potential foreign intelligence in the Kirk assassination.

48:11Tim Dillon:And Kash Patel's like, fuck you. You're not getting any of these files. And so you have Tulsi Gabbard and Joe Kent kind of on one side of this going, I want to look at foreign intelligence, whatever. Whatever happened or didn't happen. We just want to see the files. Kash Patel's like, it's an ongoing investigation. You cannot see the files. And fuck you. So right there is a public rift of that war that I'm talking about, that kind of, you know, underground conflict between factions in our intelligence community. You have the FBI. You have Kash Patel. You have that, the Bureau going, don't compromise our investigation.

49:02Tim Dillon:You have Joe Kent going, We want to know about what happened with the oversight here. So here is this Colby. Pentagon policy chief's rogue decisions have irked U.S. allies in the Trump administration. This is a political hit piece, right? So this is a political hit piece, okay? And this was written in July, I believe, right? Yeah. So this is a faction of people. And this guy is, again, not like the highest level guy, but he's pretty high level. And does it say exactly what his position is? I think there's a part here about his position on Ukraine. No, his position in the Defense Department. Oh.

49:53I think he might be like the undersecretary.

49:56Tim Dillon:Yeah, he might be undersecretary. I believe that's what he is. since joining the second Trump administration as the Pentagon's top policy chief. Okay. So that's a faction. Okay. That's clearly not the only faction. There's another faction that wants more interventions, that believes that the power vacuum in the Middle East gets filled by China and Russia, and that faction of people is more aligned with neoconservative people uh in those departments and they want ted cruz or marco rubio and the colby faction wants jd vance and the tucker faction colby not the tuckers the cia but tucker clearly has a preference for vance and for that foreign policy position prevailing that we should not be embroiled in in the Middle East.

50:58Tim Dillon:Although he does like Qatar. He doesn't. Because we're not fighting wars. He would say we're not fighting wars on behalf of Qatar. Those are factions. Get up the Joe Kent stuff with Tulsi and Kash Patel. These are different factions that are fighting for control of whatever comes after Trump. And this is kind of a, it's a conflict that smart people know about. And I'm not saying if you know about it, if you don't know about it, you're not smart. I'm just saying like, whatever. You're not reading, you have a life, right? So you're like, have a family and a job. You're not reading all this crap that I read and you're talking to these crazy people.

51:40Tim Dillon:It's all I do all day is talk to crazy people. They're interesting to a degree, but they're insane. And, you know, they have very interesting positions all over, you know, in media and government or whatever, and they're interesting and they're nuts and they believe X or Y or Z and you really don't know who's who or who works for who or why anyone believes anything and who's getting paid and whatever. It's an odd world. But these are the factions that are lining up. And it's all about control of money and control of power and who gets their friends in, who gets their people in, who's able to go in with their crew and staff all of these agencies and try, because again, these agencies are not always going to be responsive to the incoming administration.

52:34Tim Dillon:They've been trying to fire that guy forever, by the way. A lot of people want that guy fired. That's why Politico wrote that hit piece. He tried to stop armed shipments to Ukraine. I mean, you know, his position on this stuff is kind of known, but a lot of people don't want that guy in.

52:55Tim Dillon:Counter-terrorism nominee Joe Kent, under scrutiny, has emails show he pushed for edits to intelligence assessment. Okay, this is not... But here, just to show you who he is, emails obtained by CBS News show Joe Kent, who currently serves to the chief of staff, to Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard. So that's what he does, okay? He is the Chief of Staff to Director Tulsi Gabbard. The Director of National Intelligence, whatever, it's kind of a fake job. They're trying to do the best that they can, I guess, trying to figure out what the hell's going on. But he asked Kash Patel to see the files that they had on the Charlie Kirk case.

53:45Tim Dillon:And the request was flat out denied. They're like, no, we're not going to show you. What we have, it's an ongoing investigation. I don't know why it's ongoing. I thought they got the guy. And I don't know why he's, like, I don't know why anyone's talking about foreign intelligence with this assassination. Again, I'm confused. so but that's again just an example of yeah officials access to fbi files in charlie kirk case drew pushback an inquiry by joe kent who leads the national counterterrorism center is said to have slammed to have alarmed cash patel the fbi director they don't want him poking around.

54:32Tim Dillon:This is not completely unprecedented and rare. The FBI does not like that there are other agencies that have oversight. The inquiry by Joe Kent, the director of the Counterterrorism Center Alarmed Cash Patel, the director of the FBI, Mr. Patel and other senior officials believe Mr. Kent was overstepping, treading on FBI responsibilities and potentially interfering with the investigation and prosecution of Tyler Robinson. But supporters of Mr. Kent say he was doing his job running down leads and making sure no foreign or domestic groups were linked to Mr. Kirk's death. So you see the little schisms happening.

55:13Tim Dillon:We had a very weird shooting at MIT, a weird shooting at Brown, horrible shooting at Brown, horrible that anyone loses their life ever in a horrible way like that. A young woman, two people at Brown. Yeah, two people. Two people at Brown. And then a nuclear fusion scientist, something like that, right? Yes, from MIT. From MIT. And the same guy killed all of them and then killed himself in a storage shed. Let's listen to a little bit of this. Again, this is probably something that will disappear from the news in a day. And no one will ever know what happened. But it's fucking weird. It's a little weird.

56:04That a guy walked onto the campus of Brown, shot these two people,

56:10Tim Dillon:and then shot a guy from MIT and he killed himself in a storage shed. Let's hear a little bit of this. Two shootings at two major schools in the Northeast, and police now say they could be connected. Good afternoon, everyone. I'm Kira Phillips. We begin with that breaking news. Multiple sources briefed on the investigation, telling ABC News the mass shooting at Brown University and the murder of an MIT professor in Massachusetts may be linked. Let's bring in our Christian Cordero there on the scene in Providence, Rhode Island. Also, our chief investigative correspondent, Aaron Koturski, plus our contributor and former NYPD chief of detectives, Robert Boyce.

56:46So, So, Aaron, what do we know now? Law enforcement sources tell ABC News, Kira, that the shooting at Brown University that killed two students may, in fact, be connected to the shooting death, the apparent murder of MIT professor Nuno Lollero, who was shot and killed in the foyer of his Brookline home on Monday night, pronounced dead on Tuesday morning at the hospital. At first, the FBI said there was no known connection, but in the last 24 hours, sources told ABC News that the investigative teams on both the cases began to compare notes and information started to gel that the two shooting incidents may in fact be connected.

57:31The authorities have not said this publicly, but this is what we're hearing now from multiple law enforcement sources. We also understand that that authorities may be close to naming a suspect.

57:42Tim Dillon:So we have the suspect. We have the guy that did this. He's dead and he killed himself in a storage shed. What's his name? I don't know why. Nothing seems to make sense anymore, and I don't want to sound like a nut. And I'm not saying and alleging that we're always, everything's a lie all the time. But it is just odd that like crimes used to have motives. You know, when I grew up, crimes had motives. Like somebody would do something and there would be a tangible reason as to why that person did it. And the news media would doggedly try to find out why the person did the crime. And now that that's kind of less of a thing.

58:28Now you're just

58:30Tim Dillon:Now it's like Clue It's like a weird thing of Clue Where they're like He killed someone in the meat locker With the hair With the hair dryer And you go okay And he's like well he shot somebody In the frozen foods aisle With You know the bazooka And you go oh okay but why Well we don't know Right Well, he was basically, he had a samurai sword and he was in the phone booth and he cut the guy's head off. But nobody really knows why. A Reddit post from a homeless man at Brown University helped investigators find the mass shooter. Well, thank God. Thank God that, by the way, this is Kash Patel's FBI.

59:25Tim Dillon:it has now come down to a Reddit post from a homeless person. So if you're killed in this country, you better hope that a vagrant tweets about it so that Kash Patel can find out. Hope they tweet at FBI director, at Kash, I just killed someone. Literally Reddit pages where homeless people post are the only people doing any investigations in this country. Them and Candace Owens. Let's watch this.

59:58This was just them searching for the snow for footprints. Oh, good. Look at this. Look at the FBI searching for footprints in the snow.

1:00:05Tim Dillon:This is the biggest joke. I mean, they're doing a dance. These people are doing a dance. They're doing a ceremonial dance because they just did a human sacrifice. who was the guy that got shot at MIT? Who was that guy? His name is Nuno. And what did he do? He was a scientist, right? He was a nuclear fusion. He was a nuclear fusion scientist. And now Trump just signed a deal with a fusion company like today. Yeah. And there was a guy on the board of that company, I think who knew this guy.

1:00:51Tim Dillon:Why is Truth Social Owner Trump Media merging with a fusion energy firm? So on a day after this guy gets whacked, Trump Media and Technology Group, owner of Donald Trump's Truth Social media platform, announced a merger on Wednesday with a company developing fusion energy technology. Interesting. Fun. Fun. And this guy was a fusion scientist gets whacked the day before again. I'm not saying there's anything there. It's just fun to know. Who is the suspect? Go back to that. So a Reddit thread posted by a homeless guy. You don't think of the homeless on Reddit, but I imagine many of them are.

1:01:46Tim Dillon:let's read this here. Is there, yeah. Police are probably going to sift through a lot more Reddit posts in the future. One of those online posts played a big role in helping investigators find the suspect who killed two students in Brown. Remember, Kash Patel, they said they had the guy, they used geolocation, whatever, they traced his phone, and then they had to let him go. This is what they do over there at the FBI. They find someone, and then they announce to the public. They're like, we've used geolocation to find the... And then they have to let them go. Great. The 48-year-old suspect, Claudio Neves Valente, was found dead in a New Hampshire storage facility Thursday night.

1:02:30Tim Dillon:Authorities say he killed Brown University students, Mohamed Aziz Umurkuzov and Ella Cook, and then murdered MIT professor Nuno Luriero. It took investigators a long time to ID the suspect. after the mass shooting Saturday night in Providence, followed by the assassination of the professor Monday night. Then on Tuesday, authorities received a tip from an anonymous source about a Reddit post on the Providence subreddit, according to the affidavit. The Reddit poster, a homeless man, claimed that he saw the suspected shooter walking in the area of the Brown University mass shooting. Quote, I'm being dead serious, reads the Reddit post.

1:03:08Tim Dillon:The police need to look into a gray Nissan with Florida plates, possibly a rental that was the car he was driving so Kash Patel and the FBI are now relying on the homeless to solve the crimes no no no folks they're relying on the homeless the reason the Epstein list isn't out is because the homeless haven't gotten involved this is why Kash Patel didn't realize that there was a human trafficking ring that Epstein was running because a homeless guy hadn't posted about it on Reddit. The Federal Bureau of Investigation is now depending on the homeless in the country. Up until that point in the investigation, police had not released any videos with a gray Nissan or vehicle in Florida plates based on the tip.

1:03:58Tim Dillon:So basically the homeless are doing a better job than the Kash Patel's FBI. And Kash Patel, by the way, while this is all happening, is on a podcast with his girlfriend. He's on a podcast with his girlfriend Okay Dan Bongino just left The FBI to come back to podcasting Welcome back brother Who predicted that a year ago The guy that didn't get invited to Conan's party That guy Bongino's coming back to a place Where he can make a goddamn difference The desk Come back to the podcast world We can make change here It's not like the fucking feds can we watch a little bit of this abortion can you this is the director folks this is the do i will i'm going to campaign for aoc i will campaign for mom donnie i am putting the burka on this is the campaign i'm sorry this is the director of the federal bureau of investigation this girl in Brown University was shot in her face and tragically lost her life.

1:05:07Tim Dillon:And I'm not even kidding anymore. She tragically lost her life. She was shot in the head, okay? This fool with his girlfriend is on a fucking podcast. Katie Miller, Stephen Miller's wife, this isn't even a high-rated podcast. This isn't even a big one, okay? This isn't even a big fucking podcast. This ain't call her daddy. this is some dumb shit this is not even worth it they don't even get good views let's watch a little bit of this disgusting on a personal level of course I wish we didn't have to deal with the attacks like she should be out there touring and she should be out there touring call call AOC I'm giving her money I swear to God and I was never even listen I was never a huge fan of this guy because I didn't know much about him and it felt weird.

1:06:02Tim Dillon:It all felt weird. And now it's fucking insane. But I am donating money to, I mean, it's just, this is couldn't have, I mean, it's just, it's good for my show and it's good for the podcast world, which is why Dan Bongino, I think is coming back to us. Because truly that's what this is good for is like, it's fodder. But what an embarrassment for the country. She should be out touring. we don't like the attacks she should be out touring there's a girl at Brown University that's shot in the face fire him fire him are you people fucking nuts you're up at Turning Point USA arguing with each other calling each other fucking feds or whatever and this guy who's a legitimate fed is saying his girlfriend should be touring while someone got shot in the face and they don't have the person who did it and he's deciding to go on a podcast.

1:07:03Tim Dillon:It's a bad reality show. It's fucking terrible. Here, let's go. ...stage as she always has been and she shouldn't have to deal with the... Weird set as well. Not a good set. Keep going. Sorry. Collateral consequence of just being the FBI director's girlfriend. But I think with the hypersensitive nature of the media, especially the social media space, people come at you because it takes me back to like when I first did an investigation. And he has red, white, and blue socks on. Call Hassan Piker. Go just donate. Just give Hassan Piker a super chat right now. Call those that retarded Withers, whatever his name is, those fucking twinks from Colorado that live in a mountain that keep screaming.

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1:10:59Tim Dillon:This is what the Republican Party has become. I mean, it's really insane. The Democrats will and should win the midterms, and hopefully they should win the next election. If they can be sane, they may or may not. but if this isn't some kind of fuckery with this thing with the MIT and the dead in the storage shed if this isn't something if something dark isn't afoot then I truly don't know what's going on there used to be crimes that would have a little bit of that would make some sense and maybe this one will make sense there used to be motives used to go yeah that guy he's somebody who's fucking his wife he killed them not good but you know you understood it in your mind now you just again it's Mad Libs it's Mad Libs where you go MIT, you write it down you go MIT nuclear scientist this guy's here, that guy if you talk about it you sound like a conspiracy theorist, if you literally were to just tell somebody the actual facts of this you would sound like a conspiracy theorist without mentioning any conspiracies, by the way.

1:12:10If you just said there was a guy,

1:12:13Tim Dillon:he was a nuclear fusion scientist, MIT, crawling with spies, shot in his house. Then at Brown University, this girl got shot and then some other guy. Now they found the guy who did it because a homeless guy posted on Reddit. And then the FBI director decided to take a break from his girlfriend's tour schedule to try to arrest a guy who actually was another weird guy who knew this guy he shot. I think they knew each other. Let's find that article. They kind of knew each other. And he ended up killing himself in a storage facility in New Hampshire. If you were to just say that, you would sound like you were trying to say something else.

1:13:02Tim Dillon:But everything now is mask off. Everything is mask off. We're at the end of whatever this thing has been. Whatever you want to call it. Democracy, oligarchy, you know, an attempt at representative government. It is mask off. And all of the factions that I'm talking about are fighting for a peace. And essentially the peace. And that includes the Teal Tech people, which is, you know, Vance is, you know, would have to eventually, I guess, make clear what exactly he feels about these people and, you know, what exactly he thinks their role is in a government. They want an AI government. That's obvious.

1:13:53Tim Dillon:They want to get rid of people in all kinds of positions of power. They don't really believe in the government. That's a faction. The permanent war machine, That's a faction. The global open borders, free trade, protect trade routes, and, you know, ports that are very aligned with the permanent war people, that faction, that's a group. That's a faction. The closed border, paleo-conservative, get ready to fight China, get out of the Middle East, anti-Israel, that's a faction. The pro-Israel people are a faction. They care only about the Greater Israel Project and believe that the United States should be supporting Israel in everything it does.

1:14:44Tim Dillon:That's a faction. All of these people are factions. The Qataris are a faction. They're getting involved in the game and they're saying, we want advocates in America. We want to give people money. All of these people are factions and what they are fighting for is the last bit of meat on the carcass of this empire. This is absolutely what is quite obvious. Nobody is pretending anymore that it is anything other than that. That's exactly what it is. People know that in the next however many years, it is going to get pretty bad with AI, with climate, all of these things. And they need to figure out how they're going to ride all of that out and get to the next thing, whatever the next thing is.

1:15:46Tim Dillon:And they don't say it explicitly. They're not going to bring it up, but they do hint every now and then that there's going to be a next thing. They don't believe that democracy is work. They think it's too corrupt. One side says it's the NGOs and the courts, the non-governmental organizations, and they have points. The other side says it is the you know patriarchy, the prominence of white men in positions of power, the the, you know, stained history of our country and that all these things need to be erased and replaced with a system where they have more power. It's just a fight till the end here.

1:16:39Tim Dillon:Slain MIT professor's physics career flourished as his suspected killers floundered. Claudio Nives Valente and Nuno Loriero were once peers. Decades later, Valente is believed to have killed Loriero days after a rampage at Brown University. So maybe this guy was settling a score. The two young men were peers, brilliant, aspiring scientists, working toward a degree at Portugal's most prestigious engineering school, a white building at the top of a grassy plaza in Lisbon. A quarter century later, both were in the United States, but their paths had diverged radically. Nuno Luriero was a physics professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, a beloved mentor who researched the behavior of plasmas.

1:17:18Tim Dillon:Claudio Nives Valente was living in Miami. his scientific career long discarded. On Monday, Valente hunted down, Luriero authorities said, shooting him at the home he shared with his wife and three daughters near Boston. This sounds like a musical. This sounds like a fucking weird musical. These two Portuguese nuclear scientists. What the fuck's going on? What the fuck is going on? I grew up in a country where Americans used to kill each other over things like this. For Valente, it was the second act in a deadly rampage that began at Brown University 48 hours later when he burst into a lecture hall and opened fire, killing two undergraduates in an economics study session.

1:18:02Tim Dillon:Valente subsequently killed himself in a storage unit in New Hampshire, police said. An autopsy conducted Friday by the New Hampshire Medical Examiner's Office concluded that Valente died Tuesday from a gunshot wound to the head. Investigators have not yet revealed a motive for the attacks, but both have links to Valente's long ago days as a student, first at the Instituto Superior Tecnico and then at Brown. At Brown, Valenti targeted a building at the heart of the university's physics program. It's a place where he would have taken classes during his brief time enrolled. So maybe the guy had a total mental snap.

1:18:36Tim Dillon:In Lauriera's case, authorities believe the two men knew each other and in 1995 both were enrolled in the physical and technological engineering program at Tecnico as the school is known in Portugal. Nuno Morius, a fellow Technico student at the time, said he knew both men. Valente was one of the best students in the class. Highly competitive and driven. He showed no signs of having mental health struggles back when they were students. Luriero, or whatever, I'm fucking all these names up, was also an excellent classmate, but more relaxed than Valente. He described both as friendly.

1:19:16Tim Dillon:Luriero's slaying has shocked a scientific and engineering community in Portugal.

1:19:24Tim Dillon:Tragedies like this should make us think carefully about the mental health toll of a, quote, hyper-competitive culture. Okay. Okay. What? Like, again, sure, but is that what happened? Were they fucking back in the day? Does this guy hate this guy a lot?

1:19:46Tim Dillon:I don't know. I don't know what's going on. Maybe the guy had a mental break. Yeah, I don't know. All right. I don't know. I don't know anymore, folks. Miriam Adelson pledges$250 million for a third Trump term at a White House Hanukkah party. Well, finally, some good holiday cheer. Let's take a look. Miriam Adelson, friend of the show, with Donald Trump. The thing about Miriam Adelson that I like is there are people that are super villains and conceal it. Miriam does not believe that is her journey. Miriam believes that her fashion sense should put out a supervillain vibe. And I believe everyone should have their own kind of style journey.

1:20:34Tim Dillon:And let's take a look here. This is, again, President Trump, Miriam Maddison. Here we go. And now I met Alan Dershowitz. Oh, Alan Dershowitz. The legal thing about four more years. and I say, Alan, I agree with you. So we can do it. Think about it. Alan's here someplace. Where's Alan? Alan is here. Oh, he had a flight. For more years. For more years. For more years. Think about it. Thank you. Maybe I'll be the first time I told you or second. Yeah. She said, think about it. I'll give you another 250. I will give you. But her husband, Sheldon, was an amazing guy. You know, they seem to be good friends.

1:21:17Tim Dillon:Here's the thing. She's trying to suck money out of the country to do a genocide. And he's kind of paying her back for investing in him after that January 6th thing. But here's what I see. Get that up again and just play it without volume. As I get older, as I'm 40 years old, you know, I could be disappointed about the genocide. or, you know, I could even be disappointed in him about, you know, selling America out, the insurrection, whatever. What I see, though, is a friendship. I actually see a good friendship, like a genuine friendship. You know, as you get older, there's less and less people you can relate to and they're both billionaires.

1:22:02Tim Dillon:You know, they're at the end of their lives or maybe not, but it seems like it. I mean, they're older and they've done a lot together. She helped him get elected. He helped her pulverize women and children and men. But here's the thing. There's a friendship here. It's kind of a real friendship. There's a great affection. You can tell by their body language. He respects her. She respects him. She's a tough operator. So is he. You know, folks, it's what the goddamn whole thing's about. It really is. Let's take a break from the nonsense from it. That's what it's about. That's what your life is about, having a couple of buds, having a couple of buds that you can look back and say, look what we did.

1:22:48Tim Dillon:You know, in 15 years when Gaza's some AI Miami and they're both long dead, but somebody's doing coke, you know, it's some rave and they talk about these people, you know, there'll be a little statue of Trump down there. And there'll be probably a statue of her, like, you know, Trump and Miriam, they'll talk about Trump and Miriam, They'll go, how did we do this? Didn't a bunch of people used to live here? And people will go, yeah, but it'll be a little bit like, you know, I'm like, yeah, people used to live here. They used to live in this whole thing, you know? And then they'll talk about these days and they'll talk about the days before the great war, you know, and, you know, they'll talk about the times before America was destroyed in a, you know, a world war.

1:23:36Tim Dillon:And they'll talk about Trump and Miriam and how they had the foresight to suck the money out of the country now before we defaulted on the dollar and before the Great War. You know, before we started losing our standing, before the dollar was no longer the reserve currency, they're going to say that Miriam, you know, at the very tail end of our empire, Miriam got the money out of Donald Trump, but she had to give him money to win it. She had to bet on him to get it. She had to make the bet to get it. And that, my friends, is friendship. Believing in each other is friendship. Believing in each other, knowing that, well, we got a few years left before this whole thing goes tits up.

1:24:20Tim Dillon:This thing's going tits up. Look at the economics. We got a problem here. But it doesn't matter. The people are becoming more nationalist. They're asking for food and health care. Gross. But in order to do that, because it works for a while, You know, get, you pull yourself up by your bootstraps and fucking, you know, start a hedge fund, you pussy or whatever, you know, whatever that works for a while. And it's not working that much anymore. So Miriam knows four more years. She goes, let's get it all done. We can do it all. Alan Dershowitz, that pedophiles defender, who's also credibly been accused of pedophilia, allegedly Alan Dershowitz.

1:24:57Tim Dillon:She goes, you know, he, he, he wrote a book about you doing another term. It's all good. It's all good. It's all good. it and you know you you see them together when he gives her a hug and he gives her a kiss they've pulled off something amazing when you think about it sure we all suffer uh for it and it hastens the destruction of our country and it hollows us out financially and culturally socially many other ways um you know and it'll come back to bite us when the refugees from the countries that they destabilize come back here and start randomly attacking us but whatever whatever whatever, whatever.

1:25:34Tim Dillon:For a minute, let's think about a great friendship. A decades-long friendship between casino magnets who are tough operators and understand that the true way the world works is this. This is the true way the world, it's not Turning Point USA and the sparklers and the bullshit. The fucking karaoke sing-along they're doing. This is the way the world works. People like Miriam Adelson is how the world works. And probably how it is always going to work. You know what I mean? If Putin had dinner with that woman, he'd go, God, Miriam, relax. You know, I mean, she's a fucking tough, like, but she's got a beautiful friendship with our president.

1:26:20Tim Dillon:And if it's going to end, if it's going to end and if our country is going to be completely ruined, as I fix my hat, shouldn't it be for friendship? Shouldn't it be for two people who love each other and care about each other and believe in each other? Isn't that the great story? That's the great story that no one is telling here. Shapiro and Tucker, they're all arguing and fighting. But the real story is this friendship between billionaire psychopaths. it's the most American thing that you can do. Become a billionaire with money that people have given you because of crippling gambling addictions.

1:27:14Use that money to win an election.

1:27:17Tim Dillon:At that point, you start sucking money out of the treasury to after you've genocided a bunch of people in the Middle East, then build, get this, more casinos on their graves.

1:27:36Tim Dillon:Folks, that right there is the Christmas story. It's about friendship. That's what it's about. so to Donald Trump and to Miriam Maddelson happy Hanukkah Merry Christmas and may you always find each other may not be in the same country may not be in the same city or the same room but there'll be moments when Trump thinks about Miriam and Miriam thinks about Donald and whoever goes first will speak of the other fondly Truly. And that is something that not everybody gets. Some people live their entire life without a great friendship, like a phenomenal friendship, you know? And when I look at these two, I say to myself, they've both experienced the joy of having an amazing friendship and supporting each other in times when they're both down.

1:28:57Tim Dillon:He's called an insurrectionist, a fascist, he's called a genocidal maniac, whatever. just words, whatever they always come back together that's what makes it super special R.I.P. Rob Briner horrible end very sad thing, but he knew joy he knew success, he had a great life and he was invited to Conan's fucking party goodnight Rocket Money is a personal finance app that helps find and cancel unwanted subscriptions It monitors your spending and helps lower your bills so you can grow your savings. One of my favorite things about Rocket Money is that it can track subscriptions and has the ability to cancel unwanted ones with the app with a few taps, giving users an easy way to stop paying for things they don't use.

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