In short
The host argues that U.S. politics and media are driven by “psyops” and massive super PAC spending rather than ideas. He uses the Kentucky congressional race where Ed Galrain defeated Thomas Massie as an example, claiming voters were manipulated by archetype-based ads (“war hero,” “Navy SEAL,” “strong handshake,” “central casting”) while transparency and accountability were sidelined. He also connects this to broader claims about war policy, Epstein file secrecy, and future tech/AI culture.
Guests (named in title, but not actually interviewed in the provided transcript): Thomas Massie (former/losing candidate; libertarian-leaning congressman per host’s claims), Kevin O’Leary (Shark Tank investor; discussed via his public comments), and “American Psyop” framing by the host.
Key claims
$32M+ can “create any reality” in politics; super PACs can override voter preferences; “war hero” branding replaces policy; AI and tech elites push inevitability and reduce human meaning; AI excitement is treated as naïve or sinister.
Notable examples
“central casting” campaign ad; alleged Epstein files stance; “release them” vs “keep them locked”; Wharton commencement booing AI talk; Suno AI music app.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOReflections on American Mentality
0:45 to 2:14
Tim discusses the perception of mental illness in America compared to the UK.
“I'm usually seeing that up close in an uncomfortably close capacity.”
The Political Impact of Money
2:14 to 4:21
A commentary on how money influences politics, illustrated by Thomas Massey's loss.
“where people can just dump$32 million into a race I think what it's showing you is that if you spend enough money, you can just create any reality you want.”
The Role of Media and Marketing
4:21 to 8:02
Tim critiques the media's role in shaping public perception and political narratives.
“You know, 14-year-olds are shooting their parents.”
Campaign Strategies and Voter Psychology
8:02 to 12:08
Discussion on the strategies used in political campaigns and their effects on voters.
“Okay, so here's an Ed Gowron campaign ad.”
The Nature of Modern Psyops
12:08 to 14:01
Exploration of the concept of psychological operations in politics and media.
“the game, then that's the game she's going to play.”
The Nature of Psyops in American Culture
14:01 to 20:01
Explore how psychological operations shape political narratives and public perception.
“And the way they get you to do that is by shoving it down your throat.”
The Nature of Psyops in American Culture
21:00 to 22:44
Explore how psychological operations shape political narratives and public perception.
“If you're anything like me, the second that fall starts getting close.”
The Nature of Psyops in American Culture
22:48 to 22:58
Explore how psychological operations shape political narratives and public perception.
“All figures for serving of Hero Bread see nutrition facts on Hero.co.”
Impending Food Crisis and Economic Concerns
22:58 to 25:03
Discuss the potential global food crisis due to geopolitical tensions and economic factors.
“Yes, we are two of the four hosts of the podcast that stuffs fascinating, amazing, weird, mad facts into your ears on a weekly basis.”
Critique of Kevin O'Leary and Technology's Impact
25:03 to 28:00
Analyze Kevin O'Leary's views on technology and the legal challenges within society.
“people are going to have to, or it's too expensive, people are going to have to starve naturally the way they did in the Great Depression.”
Show all 21 chapters
Introduction to British Culture
28:00 to 28:20
Explore humorous contrasts between British cultural stereotypes.
“So our British producer is a lovely person.”
Kevin O'Leary's Lunch Debate
28:20 to 29:30
Discussion about Kevin O'Leary's views on spending money on lunch.
“They're very reserved, a lot of the British.”
Critique of Modern Eating Habits
29:30 to 37:40
Critique of contemporary attitudes toward lunch and eating.
“Remember they ran an article a few months ago I talked about where they go, you don't need a dining room.”
Critique of Modern Eating Habits
40:16 to 41:08
Critique of contemporary attitudes toward lunch and eating.
“Bite into a stacked sandwich made with hero bread or a fully loaded bagel, and the only thing you'll think is delicious.”
Fascinating Facts with No Such Thing as a Fish
43:03 to 43:48
Discover quirky and interesting facts shared by the hosts of a podcast.
“Andy and Anna here from your new favorite podcast, No Such Thing as a Fish.”
AI and the Future Workforce
43:49 to 51:16
Explore how AI impacts job markets and the concerns of new graduates.
“And I'm really scared and anxious about the future.”
The Efficiency Debate
51:17 to 59:18
Discuss the implications of prioritizing efficiency in society and its consequences.
“and then regurgitate them in a way that is funny.”
The AI Concern
59:18 to 1:03:02
Discussion on the impact of AI on privacy, security, and society.
“It's not just to modernize our technology to the point where it destroys our soul.”
Protests Against AI
1:03:02 to 1:08:08
Reflections on a woman's extreme protest against artificial intelligence.
“They're going to have your money supplied.”
Call for Accountability
1:08:08 to 1:10:00
A plea for dialogue and regulation regarding AI and technology.
“We, I mean, it's weird to thank someone for this, but I do think her sacrifice should wake people up at Spotify who are making costumes and who are in the AI space.”
AI Song and Flight Attendant Humor
1:10:00 to 1:11:50
A humorous narrative involving AI songs and a quirky flight attendant.
“And you're just sitting in coach and you're pressing the button.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00If you like YouTube, you'll love YouTube Premium. Hi, I'm Sean Evans from Hot Ones, and I want to tell you about YouTube Premium. It has offline downloads, so you can watch without Wi-Fi. Background play, so you can lock your phone and it still plays, baby. Oh, and it is completely ad-free. Yes, I said it, ad-free. Try YouTube Premium for two months free at youtube.com slash premium. Trial eligibility varies, terms apply, cancel anytime.
0:30Tim Dillon:Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dillon Show, our final episode from the UK. They have been very hospitable to us here and we thank them. I mean, it's good to get out of the United States and kind of see how mentally ill many people in our country are from a distance. I'm usually seeing that up close in an uncomfortably close capacity. It is good to take a flight and then appreciate that level of illness because it is a level of mental illness that is quite rampant in our society. And I'm not saying it's not here, but I'm not here to study that. I'm here to come. I'm here to ignore that.
1:20Tim Dillon:And I'm here to see it in my own country.
1:26Tim Dillon:RIP to Thomas Massey A man who never came on this show We invited him many times To come on this show I am not saying that's the reason he lost Obviously I think it's more than Miriam Adelson Spending$32 million However, would it have hurt To come on the show? Because Ro Khanna That guy Kept trying to get on the show And I go, you gotta bring in Massey and then Massey's team would constantly say no. So I feel bad for Massey. I agree with his stance on the Epstein files, release them, and the Iran war and the funding of Israel. And those are the reasons that he is no longer in Congress. I don't know how you run a country where people can just dump$32 million into a race I think what it's showing you is that if you spend enough money, you can just create any reality you want.
2:31Tim Dillon:No one knows who the hell the other guy is. He was just handpicked, came out of nowhere, was a veteran, was like, we got to get kids back into the military. We got to get them to Iran now. Now, you would think that's probably not a super popular idea. Let's bring back the draft. Let's get your son out of the house and into Iran. You would think that as ideas go, that's probably a relatively hard sell. However, if you spend enough money in American politics, you can create any reality you want. this guy who's like release the epstein files hold people accountable prosecute pedophiles get out of foreign wars that guy loses to a guy who's like let's cover up the epstein files let's not prosecute pedophiles let's go to war with your kids you would think just platform to platform that's a tough sell like that's a hard sell but with enough money if you dump enough money into anything in America you can create we see it in entertainment there's some genuinely talented people in American entertainment some of the most talented people in the world, I'm going to say the most talented people in the world have come out of America.
4:13Tim Dillon:And if you doubt that, go watch Eurovision. Go watch Eurovision. We don't have a good healthcare system. Our food is poison. You know, 14-year-olds are shooting their parents. People in my country get famous for killing their children. There's shows about it. There's a lot of things that we're not doing particularly well. But our entertainers are the best in the world. Now, that doesn't mean that they all are. A lot of them have been pushed by a machine that will not allow you to not like them. You're simply not allowed. The level of ferocity that the marketing, the level of marketing behind some of our public figures, you're not allowed to not like them.
5:14Tim Dillon:You're not allowed to even be agnostic. You must love them or hate them. They are pushed down your throat to a degree that you must either join the cult that they have or you must reject it and then like put lamb's blood on your door and darken your windows so that these people are not invading every minute of your day because in America we have that power we have this machine that can get behind anybody and push them to a point where you go I don't I don't even know if I like this, but fine. Okay. And what Miriam Adelson and Paul Singer and others and a lot of these super PACs, very pro-Israel, pro-Iran war, pro-keeping the Epstein files under lock and key, they spent an amount of money that has never been spent before in a congressional race in America.
6:21Tim Dillon:And they spent enough money to take a guy who no one really knew, who ran on a platform that was the opposite of what Trump ran on a year ago. And yet many Republican voters who voted for Trump on the platform of staying out of war and transparency elected this guy, Ed Galrain, on a platform of like more war, less transparency. Do you have an Ed Gallerian campaign ad? I don't even know. I'm sure that they exist, obviously, because that's where all the fucking money went. I've only been to Kentucky a few times. I've performed there. The people are great. I wanted to meet that American pharaoh horse, which won the Triple Crown.
7:10Tim Dillon:They would not let me. Or maybe it was justify. I think it was American pharaoh. I think they were afraid I was going to jerk it off or something. I just wanted to take a photo with it. But all those horses are owned by Saudis and they won't let you near them. And those Saudis spend lots of money on those horses and they're in stables. And I was trying to get an audience with this horse to take a photo. But because it was owned by some shake, I couldn't do it. That has nothing to do with anything. I'm just saying that was my experience in Kentucky. That's not why Ed Galleran defeated Thomas Massey.
7:46Tim Dillon:Again, that's more than$32 million. I guess this is an ad here with Trump in it. I don't know how this guy sold it. He was a retired Navy SEAL. So people like that. He's like, I'm a Navy SEAL. Okay, so here's an Ed Gowron campaign ad. And this is where all the money went. This and other things. And let's take a look at what sold the people. This is a real hero. Ed Galrine. No one in the back even knows who he is. Tremendous war hero. And he's a great patriot. I can tell you he's strong as hell. He shook my hand. My hand is still recovering. I'm telling you, that is the greatest candidate. This guy is unbelievable.
8:33Tim Dillon:Look at the peep. He is central casting. Central casting. Stop it. Stop it for a minute. Trump literally said central casting. The term central casting means that they've just like, if I look at somebody who looks like a meth head on the street and I go like central casting, that means like that person so embodies the just very general sense of a meth head that I could put them into a film as a meth head and everyone would automatically believe that they were a meth head. when Trump says about Ed Gallery and central casting, what he means is like, we found this guy that was, it was a war, war hero.
9:19Tim Dillon:He was a Navy seal. He's tall. He's a good looking, you know, he's an older guy, but he's like, he presents well. He's central casting. We're putting him in to fool you. He's using the word casting. He's going, yeah, we're putting him in to fool you. He's kind of, an actor you know I'm sure he was a war hero whatever I don't know and I'm sure he was I mean I get it but like they're saying we got a real problem with this guy Thomas Massey who's relatively physically a little diminutive is a shorter guy he's a nerdy looking guy whatever he's got a great family and you know whatever I'm not shitting on Thomas Massey but like they found this tall ex-Navy SEAL again central casting and they go no no no this guy's the real patriot.
10:08Tim Dillon:Ed Gory, he shook my hand. When he shook my hand, he almost broke my hand. And that's how dumb the people in our country are. That's how absolutely stupid their brains have rotted in their heads and they've leaked out of their ears onto their pillow at night. And because of that, when they, he's got a strong handshake, he's a patriot. And they actually voted for this. This actually worked central casting he shook my hand that actually worked let's watch the rest of it central casting just elect him just elect him by the way stop that for a minute the pitch was just elect him it's like nike just do it it's like your mother going just clean your room.
11:03Tim Dillon:I don't want to hear anything. The pitch for this guy, after admitting he was central casting, he's a selected candidate. The pitch was just elect him. He shook my hand. He's got what a handshake he's got. Just elect this guy and we won't have any problems. Let's finish. We've only got three seconds. I'm Ed Galron and I approve this message. you know who doesn't talk at all in that commercial ed galrein ed galrein says nothing that entire commercial that entire ad ed galrein says absolutely nothing about anything and nobody really knows but i don't know if massey's against citizens united i think he said he's still he's still not against citizens united which allows people to dump billions of dollars into politics so i don't know how to help anybody i think you got to get money out of politics in america And if you don't go to public funding of campaigns and if you don't get money out of politics and if you go Miriam Adelson, who's a U.S.
12:01Tim Dillon:citizen, a dual citizen, but a U.S. citizen, if she's allowed to raise$32 million of her own money, if somebody else's money and spend it in a state she doesn't even live to affect the race of a congressman she doesn't like, if that's the game, then that's the game she's going to play. and other people are going to play. So you've got to change that. You've got to change it on one level or on many levels. You can either end dual citizenship. You can end private money in politics, which I think is a great idea. Super PACs and billions of dollars and raising all this money and letting donors completely control the entire system.
12:47Tim Dillon:But you've got to get on board. You've got to get on board for that. Otherwise, this will happen again and again and again, and it'll just get stupider. Central casting. He shook my hand. They'll just start picking different archetypes of people that are supposed to appeal to you on some guttural lizard brain level war hero. It'll never be more than a few words. She's a mom who's had enough. and it'll be some mom they trot out and they'll be like, she's a mom and she's had enough. You won't even know enough of what? They won't even specify what she's had enough of. They won't even do that. They don't have to.
13:31Tim Dillon:She's a mom and she's had enough and she'll fold her arms like this and they'll be like, she's pissed. And it'll be some woman that some super PAC, either the tech demons or Adelson or somebody, they will dump tens of millions of dollars into making the quote mom who's had enough your next congresswoman and there'll be nothing you can do about it because much like everything in our country you will be inundated with ads you will be inundated with a it is a sire everything in america right now people get mad when i say this i don't care everything is some type of psyop and and that doesn't mean that you should lose all contact with reality but what i mean by that okay is that and they're not even good the psyops are not even good they're not good they're effective because you're aiming for the lowest common denominator and what i mean by a psyop is they're literally coming out and inventing people and inventing, and you have to go along with it.
14:47Tim Dillon:And the way they get you to do that is by shoving it down your throat. There's nowhere for you to go. You cannot escape. The only escape from this is death. You can't get away from it. War hero, war hero, war hero, war. They're in Kentucky doing whatever the fuck they do at a Waffle House. War hero, war hero, war hero, war hero. Navy SEAL, Navy SEAL, handshake, Navy SEAL, war hero, Navy SEAL. To a point where like a horde of zombies, I guess they go into the voting booth and vote for this guy who's trying to quite literally kill their children. he wants their children dead but because every day war hero war hero navy seal handshake war hero loyal america patriot america lord you just get to a point you go i don't even know what's up and what's down what's real or what's fake this is what i mean about a psyop this is not a campaign these are not campaigns not campaigns about ideas where people are debating ideas this is a psychological operation aimed at the lowest common denominator lizard brain instincts that you have.
16:07War, hero, good, patriot, America, apple, pie, vote, vote.
16:13Tim Dillon:It is a strange, guttural, it's like an EMP. It's like an electromagnetic pulse weapon that Adelson's got in Kentucky. War, good hero apple america pie family it it means no then you go what does he want to do he wants to kill your children he wants your children in the middle east getting killed that's what it is so we're dealing with such a left and by it's not this is what bothers me it's not good if you have a modicum of of intelligence it's not even good it doesn't even inspire you can look at things that the government has pulled off and went wow they dotted all their i's and they crossed all their t's now they have such little respect for you.
17:12Tim Dillon:They have almost no respect for you. You're being treated like an adolescent who is asking too many questions and is, you know, bothering them. Right now, the American public is bothering the government and the government is dealing with that by making up stories and spending and having their emissaries go out there and say, this is reality. You understand that? As long as you live in my house, you got to live under my rules. And in my house, Ed Gallerian is a patriot who wants the best for you and your children who are going to die in the Middle East. They're going to die in Iran. And people are so sick of their children now.
18:11Tim Dillon:And their children don't, there's no prospect for their children and there's no prospect for their jobs. I have said this before on the show. Now the boomers, their children are older. But the boomers now are looking at their grandchildren and because their children have missed the window, although the draft might go up to 42. Two. So the boomers are still very excited about their children dying in a war. It's all they ever wanted. It's all the boomers ever wanted was to have their child go to a Middle Eastern war and get their head blown off. This is their greatest fantasy. They could go around town.
18:52Tim Dillon:They don't have to leave the house to the kid. they can sell the house, take all the money, go to Florida and cry, cry, cry about their child who got killed. And I read that's all the boomers have ever wanted is their children dead in a Middle Eastern war. They get excited about it. It gives them meaning. They love it. They like it. They like songs about people dying in a war and they don't really mind if it's their own children. In fact, they prefer it. They prefer it. So that's who we're dealing with. That's who we're dealing with those are the people that pull the lever for ed gallery and they're people that want their children to die preferably in a faraway middle eastern land in a crusade that's who we've got in this cut that's who's on the back deck of a bar in florida listening to van morrison's domino oh domino and they're swaying in the breeze they that's what they want they want their children I've said it before.
19:54Tim Dillon:I'm not going to keep saying it. So that's why you're getting what you're getting. Hey, what's up, guys? It's Haley Bailey. Okay, I need to tell you about something. I just got YouTube Premium. It's got tons of awesome features like offline downloads so I can download my favorite videos before I travel and watch them whenever I don't have Wi-Fi because we all know airplane Wi-Fi is the worst. I get ad-free, I get backroom play, and there's like a ton more in there. You should try it. If you like YouTube, you'll love YouTube Premium. Try it now for two months free at youtube.com slash premium. If you like YouTube, you'll love YouTube Premium.
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23:39Tim Dillon:Now, this economic fallout, by the way, is bad. And they're saying there's going to be a major food crisis in six months. And that people are not going to be able to get food. The closure of the Strait of Hormuz is not a temporary disruption, says Politico, but the start of a systemic shock to global food prices. So now, because by the way, we talked about it on Piers Morgan the other day, fertilizer, things like this, that move through the Straits of Hormuz, by the way, are not moving. So it's hurting everything. It's hurting agriculture. Decisions now by farmers and governments on fertilizer use, imports, financing, and crop choices will determine whether food prices spike later this year or in early 2027.
24:30Tim Dillon:You know who this hurts the most? Eli Lilly and the makers of the GLP-1s. The makers of the GLP-1s depend on the fact that on this planet right now, in a lot of the Western countries, specifically the one I live in, we have a lot of fatty bombatties. and Eli Lilly and many other companies are now coming up with these GLP-1 drugs that help people eat less. Great. If the food stops showing up at the grocery store, people are going to have to, or it's too expensive, people are going to have to starve naturally the way they did in the Great Depression. So no more injectables, no more GLP-1s. people are just going to have to go to bed with an empty stomach like an orphan from Oliver Twist.
25:24Tim Dillon:And the only people that will be fat will be rich people who can afford the food prices. And then you go back to the Great Depression. And that's what may happen. And by the way, that might be the plan. The government of our country might say, listen, we're going to go back to workhouses and gruel. Please, sir, may I have some more? We might be heading in that direction. Because Trump has come out and said, I don't think about the financial situation of Americans. We're just going to go to war. We're a war nation now, and too bad if you can't eat. it's going to cost you too much money to feed your children therefore they have to go to iran
26:21it all works together folks it all links up together kevin o 'leary doesn't want your kids to eat let's get up kevin o 'leary kevin o 'leary shark tank guy friend of the show
26:33Tim Dillon:don't sue me Kevin O 'Leary I know he sues people a lot that talk about him all these billionaires sue people by the way I don't like that I don't like the suing you hear that costume designers we don't like this the legality of everything what is wrong with people when did this start when everybody just grabbed lawyers and everybody wanted to sue everybody and I mean that's the only thing we have left in our country is to sue people for anything and everything we don't like here's Kevin O 'Leary talking about that now I don't hate Kevin O 'Leary I don't really know him I've never met him I was gonna buy a condo in the building he lived in in Miami years ago and I never did I think Shark Tank's a fine show it's whatever but he's building this really big data center in Utah and a lot of people are unhappy with that because these and AI is getting booed everywhere We're going to play that, those commencement speeches later.
27:33Tim Dillon:But Kevin O 'Leary is now on the podcast circuit. He was on Tucker. And he's talking about, hey, all technological advancements are great no matter what. This is the party line. This is the party line, by the way. All tech is good. No tech is bad. Everything's good. Every advancement is good. That's someone's phone? Sorry. Is that mine? It can't be mine. That's all right. It's our British. It's a British producer. Should we answer it? Who is it? Is anyone important? We'll never know. Did you get a lot? Was it a scam call? All right. So our British producer is a lovely person. The British are very loved.
28:22Tim Dillon:They're very reserved, a lot of the British. Not up north, but here. Up north, they're kind of more like America. But here, if you go up to Liverpool or Manchester, they have, you know, they've got pumped up lips and they've got fake tanner and they're fighting in the street. They're beating each other in the street and they're drunk and they're eating kebabs and kebab sauce is falling out of their mouth as they pummel someone who bothered them. That's, you know what I mean? But here it's more prim and proper and tea and sandwiches and oud smelling and the Arabs and everybody's rich and it's Harrods and it's Knightsbridge and it's Ferraris and it's sexy.
28:58Tim Dillon:and it's prep school London proper little gentleman in their suits and they're, you know, and everybody's pale and, you know, that's kind of that. But then up north, you just have more of like, you know, it's sort of more of a culture of, you know, kind of gypsies and people that just like to throw hands in the street. And, you know, I kind of like that. That's something, there's something fun about that to me, but I don't have time to get up there this trip, but next time I will. But Kevin O 'Leary, friend of the show from Shark Tank, is now basically telling you you're not allowed to have lunch.
29:32Tim Dillon:Remember they ran an article a few months ago I talked about where they go, you don't need a dining room. They said people just are realizing they don't need to sit and have a dining room. They go, you don't have a family. No one believes in God, so there are no holidays. You don't have a family. Why do you need more than one room where you could just sit in the corner and cry? This is what they say. And now they're coming out and going, why are you having lunch? What do you need to do with lunch? So basically, they just want to push you into a form that is not human because they're going to replace you with technology.
30:12Tim Dillon:They're quite clear about that. And in order to compete with technology, they'd very much like you to stop eating and sleeping and doing anything that might get in the way of your productivity. So here is Kevin O 'Leary talking about people eating lunch and why that's becoming a problem. He talks about the financial investment that people make in eating a lunch. Kevin O 'Leary. Can't stand it when I see kids that are making 70 grand a year spending$28 for lunch. I mean, that's just stupid. It's just think about that in the context of that being put into an index and making 8 to 10 % a year for the next 50 years.
30:53Tim Dillon:Right. So here's for the next 50 years, by the way, because everyone's got a 50-year plan. Doesn't everyone have a 50-year plan? When you go to get a panini, don't you say, I'd rather put this money in my index fund over the next 50 years? Here's the problem with this. Number one, lunch costs$28 now. That's what it costs. Lunch is expensive. It's expensive. It's not cheap. If you work in an office and they're paying you$70 ,000 a year, not because you're worth that or because they're electing to pay you$70 ,000 a year. You're taking that because it's an available job. Now, is that a true statement of your value as an employee?
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31:33Tim Dillon:Maybe, maybe not. I don't know. It's case specific, but he's using the example of somebody who's getting paid$70 ,000 a year. So that person now either has to make lunch and bring it to the office, which I'm not saying is a terrible thought, but if that person wants to go and purchase a lunch, a salad, a sandwich, a yogurt parfait, plus a coffee, he's basically saying that if you're spending$28 on lunch, you're some kind of crackhead. That's what he's saying. You're like a crackhead who's financially irresponsible. You're like a shivering on the street crackhead, crack addict, because you stood in a line and spent$16 on a salad and$3.50 on a drink, and with tax and with the donation to the child cancer fund, you ended up spending$26.50 on lunch, and you're a crackhead.
32:43Tim Dillon:you're a financially irresponsible drug addict and you should be treated as such you're stupid he goes that's stupid you're stupid and you're an idiot because you didn't go and make yourself a tuna sandwich or a turkey sandwich and bring it into work and by the way how much cheaper is that not that much cheaper go to the grocery store it's not that much cheaper because we've decided to fight and lose a war with Iran, by the way. So it's not that much cheaper to buy groceries. Now, it is cheaper, but how much cheaper, I don't know. But Kevin O 'Leary's point is basically like, hey, crackhead. Hey, crackhead, junkie drug addict, get off the line at your salad, you junkie drug addict.
33:34Tim Dillon:don't add the guacamole at chipotle you drug addict there used to be the days of the three martini lunch people would spend two hours at smith and walinsky's getting bombed and having fun and enjoying their life now people eat a bowl of slop and they're not even allowed to do that they don't even want them doing that they don't even want them doing that you go and you get a bowl of slop what's the base what base would you like grain green grain or green they talk to you with words singular word grain or green green or if you have to stay at work longer you need some carbs grain olive grain meat chicken all the cheese and it's always some like you know word you can't pronounce, some spice, some, you know, all of the achoti chicken, achachot chicken, grain or green, grain, meat, chicken, vegetables, peppers, corn, spinach, sauce, the cilantro, lime, chipotle.
34:46Tim Dillon:And they throw it at you. And that is what they want to take away. that that you can't do that even you used to go to Smith and Walensky's in New York City or the 21 Club or wherever and I'm sure there's equivalence of this in London and you would sit there and you they would bring you a gin martini hello sir how are you would you like a steak or a shrimp cocktail and you'd have a cigarette and yeah you died because you ate unhealthy food but guess what do you think any of those people want another 10 years eating grain green they go what the hell's this put me back in the fucking ground now people got healthier the three martini lunch ended things evolve i get it uh you know i'm not saying it's the best idea to drink in the middle of the day but compare that life to what you're doing now and not only that they won't allow this.
35:44Tim Dillon:They won't allow it. They go, you can't spend$28 on a bowl of dog food. You want to get some moderately healthy, organic, non-GMO dog food before getting in the elevator and going back to your desk to live a meaningless life devoid of purpose? And then going back to your overpriced condo with no dining room and slinking down onto your couch and jerking off to very violent porn before falling asleep on your bed after taking four edibles, waking up in the middle of the night with a panic attack, and then doing it all again the next day? Why are you spending money on lunch? Why would you spend money to just punctuate this horrific life we've created with a little bit of a panini, a ciabatta with a caprese salad?
36:38Tim Dillon:Why would you do it? Why wouldn't you in that horrible life we've created make a sandwich and bring it to work in a paper bag or a lunchbox and put it in the refrigerator so that you could save $45 a week,$60 a week and put it in an index fund so that in 50 years then you can, I don't even know what the hell you do. I don't even know what you would do with that money in 50 years. When everybody's a bionic human being and most of these people have left the goddamn planet. You're going to be sitting here with your index funds in whatever more door these people have created. You're going to go, well, thank God I didn't have lunch for 30 years.
37:27Tim Dillon:And I invested in this index fund so that now I have the money to buy the gear to fight the robot army that is surrounding my house. guys, what are we thinking? You think this is going to be, you think this thing's going to look good in 50 years? No, just stop being a doom and gloomer. There's always been people like you that don't believe in the future. They're telling you they want you to not have a job and not own anything. They're coming out and telling you that's not a secret. They're telling you they're going in front of kids to just spend four years to get a shitload of student loads. Can you get up this Goldman Sachs CEO, this guy who, he's a DJ at Surf Lodge in the Hamptons.
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43:46Tim Dillon:let's take a look at the CEO of Goldman Sachs again a mentally ill person who is DJs at Surf Lodge in the Hamptons and because he is rich his mental illness must be regarded as a hobby so he's DJing because it's not enough to be rich you also have to be cool and then he goes and gives some commensurate speech I think his name is Gary Cohn he's no longer the CEO of Goldman sacks i don't know what he does now i think it got in the way of his music but he goes up in front of this college and he's like by the way kids ai is coming and it created this new song and isn't it great it took like you know 15 seconds or whatever and i gave it some prompts and it created this song and all of these speakers are getting booed because they keep bringing up ai And the kids who just graduated college, they're not kids, they're like adults ready to enter the workforce, are going, hey, man, I know what you think you're saying here, but like, I really just don't have any money.
44:50Tim Dillon:And I'm really scared and anxious about the future. So when you get up at my college commencement, when I'm 200K in the hole on student loans, and reminder, they don't go away in bankruptcy. They follow you until the ends of the earth. So all of these kids are going, hey, I'm 200K in the hole. And then the commencement speaker goes, hey, isn't AI great? So let's take a look at this. This is some of, I guess, some people getting booed about AI. And then we'll find the Goldman Sachs guy, who I think it was Yale or something. So what is this? Is this people getting booed? Yeah. Yeah, let's watch some of this.
45:31Then in the 50 years prior, streaming rewrote the economics. social media rewrote the discovery model AI is rewriting production as we sit here I know it deal with it go to the next one you know
45:54Tim Dillon:they get booed they get booed and booed and booed and people because these are the people this is going to affect by the way these people are going to be affected by this and they know it. Here we are. We can watch this whole clip. Eyes of artificial intelligence is the next industrial revolution.
46:21Tim Dillon:They know. They know they're going to be fucked. To a music industry titan, AI clearly striking a sore spot. AI is rewriting production. Boom. Deal with it. Like I said, it's a tool. Deal with it. That's the attitude. Deal with it. At the University of Arizona, former Google CEO Eric Schmidt faced loud jeers on the topic. Yep. The question is whether you will help shape artificial intelligence. We do not know. Yeah. The speaker choice was controversial from the get go. Some students launching a petition to replace Schmidt in part because he's been accused of rape and sexual assault by a former girlfriend in a lawsuit currently under arbitration.
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47:03Tim Dillon:All right, try to find the Gary Cohn Goldman Sachs guy with the song. Listen, you know, again, I'm sure there are some good uses for AI. I know that it is a complex topic, but I will tell you this. Overall, I'm deeply skeptical and deeply concerned about the idea that everyone I know personally who seems very excited about AI is some type of criminal. That's all. That's all. Sorry. By the way, maybe I'm wrong. Everyone I know who is deeply excited about AI is some type of criminal. Basically, you know, people that are going out and saying this is the way it is, get on board, stop talking about regulating it, stop talking about the social cost of implementing this technology, stop talking about how it affects you and start embracing the global vision of a world run by machines that you will either keep up with or fall behind and if you don't embrace it there's nothing we can do and it's just treated as an inevitability on a level that is deeply uncomfortable to a lot of people especially these kids that are graduating They're going into the real world.
48:32Tim Dillon:They all have, most of them have student debt and most of them have grown up in a world where technology has not made everything that much better. These are the kids that grew up in the world where technology has not made things that much better. There are creature comforts, there's Uber and DoorDash and there is Hinge and there's dating apps and there's fucking whatever. There's a lot of things. But they've watched it radicalize their parents. They've watched their friends get addicted to porn. They've watched it radicalize other members of their society. They've watched their friends make mistakes on it.
49:17Tim Dillon:Then those mistakes get dragged out later in their life. And then online vicious mobs come for them. These kids have grown up in a world when they were in their early teens and now they're graduating and going into the workforce, they have seen a tremendous amount of negatives from technology. The CEOs of these companies have not. They have not. A few of them have. A few of them who threw a woman out of a window had to then apologize for it. Well, I'm sorry I threw my secretary out of a window. People make mistakes. But if you're graduating college today, you grew up at a time when there's a very good chance technology on the whole made your life worse.
50:11Tim Dillon:It made your friend's life worse. Does it mean that it was all bad? Does it mean that I'm a Luddite and I think we should live like the Amish? it means that the idea that we can't regulate this technology can't talk about it can't have human reactions to it have to immediately accept it have to immediately think it's all for the greater good you know i had dinner in london the other night with some music executive and he's like wouldn't it be great if there was an ai comedian who was hilarious and i went well i don't know maybe not why would that be great well it would be great and he goes you would get rid of out of the mediocre people.
50:50Tim Dillon:I go, but you got to be mediocre before you're good. There's a human development. You go from bad to mediocre to good to very good to great to what, you know, and maybe you stop at one of them, who knows? But the entire point is that if an AI comedian can just sample every comedian or every podcaster, anyone that's ever said anything, and immediately, now, by the way, I don't think you can do this now, but immediately just completely take, steal everybody's thoughts and then regurgitate them in a way that is funny. Why? And then it takes the job from a person who spent years getting to that level.
51:36Tim Dillon:A Chris Rock, a Louis C.K., whoever spent years getting to that level. why Chappelle why would I be excited about an AI I might be agnostic I might not care I might not view it as the end times of all life on earth I might not oh it was Wharton yeah that but why would I immediately just there was a light in his eyes he was excited about it he's like wouldn't it be great how cool would it be if there was an AI comedian and it was great I go I don't know why that would be cool So a job done by a human being Is now being done By artificial intelligence Now You might think That's good You might think it's bad You might think it's a net neutral You might be agnostic And there's probably reasons for all of those Why in God's name would I just Think it's great What about that Would be great So that Artificial intelligence is doing a job that used to take someone years to master.
52:52Tim Dillon:And it's able to do it in a matter of seconds. And without, by the way, the human element. And that's somehow just great. Like there's no talk. There's no conversation about that. we can't discuss the implications of that. We just have to go, that's great. What if the company your mother and father have worked at, that's just AI. Isn't that great? Well, I don't know. That's where they got all their friends from. That's how they made their money to raise me and my sister. That's how, but isn't it great that it's now just done by AI so that these CEOs can buy another house in the Hamptons and another house in Spain?
53:40Tim Dillon:uh i don't know isn't it good that human beings now just have to figure something else out they just have to figure something else out and the new thing is people go jobs are not really important you don't really need them most jobs are fake sure what do you what would you like people to do what would you like people to do oh do you think without jobs and if we're all having we're all on universal basic income everyone's going to walk around and plant community gardens is that what happened during 2020 when everyone got paid to stay in their house did that feel like a great society to live in or did people tribalize immediately and you know start trying to kill each other in the street and start burning everything down I'm trying to remember is that what happens when people just don't have anything to do when they get up in the morning and there's nowhere to go well jobs are fake and they're just not even necessary okay so then what are people going to do tell me what people are going to do.
54:40Tim Dillon:If the maximum goal, by the way, making life about only efficiency destroys it. Destroys it. The most efficient way to do something is that if someone is bothering you, if your spouse is bothering you, the most efficient way to deal with that is to kill them. It's to kill them. If your wife is bothering you The most efficient way to deal with that Is to bludgeon her with an item on your mantle That's the most efficient way to deal with it Because immediately the argument is over If your wife is dead Now you might go to jail But there's no argument anymore So you've efficiently eliminated In the moment You've officially eliminated what's bothering you And the most efficient way to end the argument is to bludgeon your wife with something on your mantle.
55:42Tim Dillon:And now the argument is over. Does that open up a Pandora's box of other problems? Most likely. The most efficient way to have an orgasm is just to masturbate, to jerk off. It's not the most pleasurable way, but it's the most efficient way. You just wake up, you jerk off, you're done. the most efficient way to make money is to steal it's to steal something someone else has if someone has something you like you physically threaten them or when they walk out of the room you grab their wallet and run out of the house that is the most efficient way to earn money it's efficient you know now you say to me well that but but then then they're gonna notice you'll lose a friend They'll call the cops.
56:29Tim Dillon:Yeah, yeah, but we're using the AI example. We're not supposed to talk about the implications of any of this. We're talking about raw efficiency because that's good. Why talk about the social cost of any of this? We're talking about raw efficiency. What makes the most sense in the moment? What gets you there the fastest? Well, if you jerk off all the time, you're just lonely and you get addicted to porn. Efficiency. see. We're not talking about the social questions, the moral questions, the ethical questions. We're talking about what gets it done in the moment. And if what gets it done in the moment is the most efficient thing, we drain the meaning out of life.
57:10Tim Dillon:The meaning of life is struggle and hardship and challenge and getting through it and building the skill set that you need to do so and then having real victories. You know, there's a great, Toni Morrison wrote a great book called Paradise, which many of you are too stupid to read. And it just is what it is. It's not my fault. It's the education system. It was hard even for me to read, to be honest. I don't think I finished it. It doesn't matter. The point is, in the first two chapters, there's a preacher who's giving a great speech about a two-year-old's life. And basically he's saying the two-year-old experienced a lot of the challenges that you did, like a three-year-old who died, and their life doesn't have less value than yours.
57:55Tim Dillon:It's a wild speech. It's actually really good, and it's brilliant. Whether you get anything out of that or not, he was basically saying that, like, that life, very short, had challenges baked into it, problems, moments of joy. You got to read the speech. I'm not doing it justice. Obviously, it's Toni Morrison, but the idea that you can just make life about efficiency and that you can drain all of the joy out of being knocked down and getting back up. the idea that you can just make everything about you make it cold we're doing it, we're seeing what it is you make it cold, you make it corporate you make it sterile, you make it antiseptic you ruin it, you drain from it that which matters you take from it that which makes you human and makes this whole thing worth doing this is not just to maximize efficiency and increase intergenerational pools of capital.
59:18Tim Dillon:It's not just to modernize our technology to the point where it destroys our soul. That can't be the point. The point is love and family and art and community. The point is culture. The point is kindness. The point cannot simply be the maximizing of efficiency. that takes all the meaning out of it. So here again, to speak on that, David Solomon, I said it was David Cohn. That's another guy. I apologize. David Solomon, AKA, this is Goldman Sachs, David Solomon. It does say he's the CEO. Maybe he's the CEO now or he was a past CEO. I don't care. But this is AKA DJ D soul. So this is the CEO of Goldman Sachs, otherwise known as DJ D soul.
1:00:09Tim Dillon:We live in hell. Take it away. Wharton commencement. You live in an age of self-driving cars, reusable rockets, and an app called Suno, which some of you might be familiar with. It's an AI app that helps you produce music instantaneously. As I was preparing for this, I gave it a prompt. And here's what I said. Hey, Suno, I'm at Wharton's graduation and I'd like you to make an anthem for the NBA class of 2026. Let's create an upbeat house song, approximately 120 beats a minute, that talks about why Wharton's grads should be optimistic about what's in front of them in the years ahead and how today is the best day in the history of the world to be in their shoes and tomorrow will be better.
1:00:55Tim Dillon:Here's what Suno came up with.
1:01:01Tim Dillon:that comes with two more verses and three more choruses it's not out publicly yet that took 10 seconds to create okay so these people they're older they're so wealthy they just don't care what happens they find it interesting because it is interesting. By the way, if you have the luxury of just talking about like where AI is going and, hey, are we all going to leave the planet? That is interesting for sure. It's fun. It's a great topic for a dinner. But if you are needing to earn money to live, or you are concerned about your privacy, or you're concerned about AI targeting schools in Iran and blowing up children who are sitting there at their desks, which is evil.
1:01:51Tim Dillon:If you're concerned about AI choosing the wrong target and blowing up children who are sitting there with pencils in their hands, if you're concerned about any of that, hey, by the way, listen to this song that AI made. Isn't this cool? It made a song. Why don't you play that song for the children in that Iranian school who burned alive? How about that? Maybe they would have liked that song when you had Palantir and all these companies, these AI targeting, because now it's widely believed that AI is being used to target things in war zones and it's making mistakes. So why don't you play them that song?
1:02:27Tim Dillon:I'm sure they'd like to hear it. Oh, you can't. They're dead. So if you have any of these concerns, you're dismissed immediately as a loser, as a Luddite, as a crank, as someone who hates technology, as someone who can't keep up. But make no mistake, they're coming for your privacy. They're coming for your security. They are coming for your money. They're coming for your property. They're coming for your life. They're coming for your freedom. They're going to take all of those things and they're digitizing every single thing on the planet. They're going to have your money supplied. They're going to have it all.
1:03:05Tim Dillon:They're going to control what you can spend, when you can spend it, how you can spend it, where you can travel. It is the plan. it's not a conspiracy. They kind of come out and say it. Eventually, they'll control where you live and they'll use, they'll control whether they think you're going to be a criminal or not with their predictive models of antisocial behavior. This is all in the works. It's not some type of conspiracy. And if you're concerned about that and you believe that there should be legislation introduced to make these companies accountable and the immediate response will be, well, China.
1:03:38Tim Dillon:Well, China China's going to do it if we don't China's going to do it if we don't So by the way, get on board We got to fight China in an AI war And we got to enslave everyone before they do Because if they enslave everybody with AI They'll be able to use AI to shut off our nukes And to compromise our military security And we're in a cold war with China involving AI It's what all these chips are about And if you have a concern about your own security, privacy, autonomy, your bodily autonomy, all these people that were, and I think rightly, skeptical of this COVID vaccine and the mandating of vaccines are going to be all in on AI in terms of how that works with your bodily autonomy.
1:04:27Tim Dillon:all of these people that were like, Bill Gates is using the vaccine to put a chip in you. They all want, they'll sign up for Elon Musk's Neuralink chip because it'll let him say the N word. So that's really what, I mean, so you have to start, I think, and I'm proud of these younger people who stand there and boo these people. They stand there and boo these people. And I want to shout out a woman who I think a lot of people don't really, a woman who protested this, who died to protest artificial intelligence. A woman in New York City recently stepped out of her car and threw herself in a manhole to protest artificial intelligence.
1:05:12Tim Dillon:She was a heroic grandmother. And she decided after getting out of her car, RIP to this woman, she decided to throw herself in a manhole and essentially cook herself like a lobster in a pot. It's not a great way to go. She did that to protest artificial intelligence. This was an incredibly strong, like remember that guy lit himself on fire to protest the Gaza stuff. This woman decided to throw herself down a manhole in the middle of midtown Manhattan to protest artificial intelligence and what it means for our freedom and what it means for our culture. And this woman did it. She threw herself down a manhole.
1:06:04Tim Dillon:And to me, it is one of those cases that I find to be amazing because the level of sacrifice obviously is complete, total and complete sacrifice, but it was to bring attention to this problem.
1:06:26Tim Dillon:People are going, it's a freak accident or whatever. People will always dismiss these things. Truly. People will always dismiss the sacrifice of others when it comes at a social cost. She decided, I'm going to throw myself down a manhole to protest the use of artificial intelligence. And, and this is kind of lesser known, she felt that I was getting railroaded by this designer. $115 ,000 for that costume. She didn't want to live in a world where I would be abused in such a manner by someone who I've only said nice things about. So she decided, bravely, to throw herself down a manhole in midtown Manhattan in order to protest not only artificial intelligence, but she also was protesting that I'm being railroaded by a costume designer.
1:07:27Tim Dillon:It's extortion. she was also protesting Spotify not giving me a deal. She was very concerned, meaning I have one of the top performing podcasts in the world. It's like number 12 on Spotify, literally. And she was confused as to why I wasn't being given a overall deal with Spotify. and she chose, again, bravely, selflessly, to throw herself down a manhole in the middle of Midtown Manhattan.
1:08:05Tim Dillon:RIP to her. We, I mean, it's weird to thank someone for this, but I do think her sacrifice should wake people up at Spotify who are making costumes and who are in the AI space. Um, because it isn't wrong to ask for a conversation about AI. It's not wrong to ask for a conversation. It's not wrong to ask for regulation, to ask for accountability, to ask for transparency. These are not wrong. You'd want, you'd want this from the financial industry. You don't get it, but it'd be nice. You want it from the military industrial complex. You want it from, you want it from all of these things, by the way.
1:08:46Tim Dillon:You want it from the people that teach your kids at school. You want it from NGOs that are privately funded that are pushing things. you may or may not agree with. You want it from our elections. You want to know who's spending millions and millions of dollars to elect candidates in states like Kentucky. You want all of those things. You want it and you should be granted an audience, meaning you should be able to have a conversation with people about AI. You should not be dictated to your citizens of the country. You live here, you vote, you pay taxes. You know, but too much of this administration has felt like you are passengers on a plane.
1:09:26Tim Dillon:There's not a curtain that separates first class from coach. It's a steel door. And every now and then they make an announcement to the coach cabinet and go, Ed Goward is a war hero. He almost shook my hand. He almost broke my hand. And as you're eating your peanuts and you're drinking your stale water, you go, yeah, yeah, Ed Goward. And then the CEO from Goldman Sachs, DJ D soul gets on the ones and twos and he makes an announcement and he goes, and AI is coming. Look at, listen to this song that AI made. And you're bopping around to the AI song and you're eating your peanuts. And they go, Ed Gowran has a handshake.
1:10:03Tim Dillon:He's a war hero. And they go, what about this AI song? What about this AI song? And you're just sitting in coach and you're pressing the button. You're pressing the button and you're pressing the button and you're going, how do, how do I get? I just want some more water. These peanuts are, they're creating a paste in the back of my throat and I can't even breathe. And you're pressing the button and then all of the sudden, a ghostly old flight attendant comes up to you and it's Marjorie Taylor Greene. And she goes, I live in Costa Rica now. I've escaped. Do you think you can escape? Yeah, play this a little bit.
1:10:38Tim Dillon:This is what you'll hear. This is what you hear as you're sitting on the plane with the peanut grout in your throat pressing water, water, water. I just want to drink water. Ed Gowran has a handshake. War hero, Navy SEAL. AI is good. AI is good. You don't need money. You don't need life. Stop eating lunch. Stop eating lunch. AI is good. Ed Gowran has a handshake. He's a Navy SEAL. Epsint is fake. Stop eating lunch. Ed Gowran has a handshake. He's a Navy SEAL. Close the files. Stop eating lunch. Make a sandwich. Make a sandwich. You don't have a life. Make a sandwich. Make a sandwich. You don't have a wife.
1:11:31Tim Dillon:Jerk your dick and sit on the floor. This is what we've done this for. You don't own shit anymore. You don't have a life. Good night from London.
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Tim discusses congressman Thomas Massie's loss to Ed Gallrein in the Kentucky primary, the most expensive in US history. He also discusses the coming food shortages as a result of the Iran War, Kevin O'Leary telling Gen Z to stop eating lunch, and college commencement speakers getting booed for championing AI.
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