500 - Iran’s Baddie Era & The Data Center Destiny

31:06Israel wants boots on the ground. They want a nuke. They want a regional war. This is a bad idea for them. It's a terrible idea. And Republican senators in Congress are going to kick up dust about this too because they're going to be pressured by their donors with whatever mechanism, up to you to decide how they're being pressured. But they will be pressured to speak out against this, and they may try to impeach Trump over it, and it's leaking out that maybe when the Democrats get in, they'll impeach Trump, and the Republicans will get on board because they're unhappy with the Iran deal. I don't believe that, but that is something that is potentially leaking out.

31:43So, listen, what I said would happen has kind of happened. Iran's in its new era. Iran, dare I say, is in its bad girl era? You know what I mean? Like, if you think about Iran, it's kind of in its bad girl era. Like, you took on the big dog and you won and you kind of got what you wanted. You know, you're in your bad girl era. So, we're the mommy. We're the mommy. And Iran's our daughter. and I ran a little bit of a bad girl.

32:21Tim Dillon:And we go into her room and we go, you better get your life together, young lady. And our daughter goes, yeah, fuck you, ma. Fuck you. And we go, don't talk to me like that. I'm your mother. And I brought you into this world and I can take you out of it. and then our daughter goes, yeah, try and then the mother goes to grab her and puts her in a headlock but the daughter sneaks out of it and gets in the mom's car and the mom goes, I need that car I gotta go to work you're fucking my money up and the daughter goes, well then raise my curfew and the mom goes, motherfucker you're a cunt and the daughter goes, you're gonna raise my curfew you.

33:14Tim Dillon:I got out of that headlock, you dumb bitch. I'm going out Saturday night till 12 because everybody else is. Remove sanctions against me, you fat bitch. You fat boomer bitch. You remove those sanctions against me or I'll steal your fucking car. You won't get to work and you'll lose your fucking money and that's all you care about. At the end of the day, you fat beanie baby collecting boomer bitch and you go, fuck, fine. So then you sit your fat ass down and you write a 14-point deal with your cunt daughter. And you go, you will, we will raise your curfew till 12, but you will submit to random drug testing at a scheduled time.

33:57Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You will not let your boyfriend in the house when we are not home, but you will rejoin the international community. We will take you on our family vacation. We will. So Iran's in her straight-up bad girl. era. Iran is at the high school with the cig in the mouth, lit the ciggy going, that bitch thought she had me. She came and put me in a headlock, but I slipped out of it and my curfew's raised. And all of the other people are like, this is fucking wild. All the other kids at the school are looking at Iran going, wow. And if I was a, you know, listen, is there stats on this, any of these betting sites, Polymarket or whatever, are there stats on if this thing holds?

34:48Because I think it's going to hold. My prediction is it's going to hold. I think it holds because I don't think we have a choice. It'll be the collapse of our country if it doesn't hold. What is this? Iran agrees to end enrichment of uranium by June 3rd. Because by the way, there's inside people on these sites. It's not only like just, it is public sentiment, but it's also certain people that are in the know. Iran agrees to end enrichment of uranium by June 30th, 44 % chance. Interesting. I don't know. I think Iran's still going to enrich to the point for peaceful nuclear. Well, I'm taking the other side of that.

35:28I don't, listen. A lot of the things that we grew up believing that were true at one time about our country are no longer true. We grew up believing we were the, and we were at one point, we were the sole superpower and we could act with impunity. Karl Rove, Bush's brain, his strategist said once, we are an empire and when we act, we create our own reality. That's a Karl Rove quote Get that quote up because it's going to tie into what I'm going to talk to you next Karl Rove, who was the strategist for George W. Bush Said we are an empire

36:10Tim Dillon:And when we act, we create our own reality This was, I'm paraphrasing it a little bit Quote The full quote reported by a Yes, reported We are an empire now and when we act, we create our own reality and while you're studying that reality judiciously, as you will, will act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors, and you, all of you, will just be left to study what we do. That was the American, the guiding principle of American foreign policy for as long as I've grown up. We do something, we give our own justifications for it.

36:55Tim Dillon:Hey, you like it? Great. if you don't fuck off because we create the reality well guess what iran just showed us oh i'm sorry yeah the full quote is reported to journalist ron susskind in the new york times magazine and this was carl rove and he was saying that we're not creating a reality anymore we're not creating a reality anymore we can act we can still act we can still do things We can still bomb people and invade countries. But by the way, we have completely lost the ability to manufacture a reality. No reality has become reality. And we got a dose of it in the Iran war. You know, our military is incredibly brave, capable, competent.

37:43Tim Dillon:But there are situations that we put them in where they are unwinnable. And the tools of this, of warfare now, are drones. They are not aircraft carriers. They are not massive ground invasions. They are drones and they're propaganda, by the way. So what you do is you try to win this. You try to unite as many people behind this thing as you can in whichever, in whatever capacity you can. And then you also try to execute a plan militarily. We failed on both ends. We failed on both ends. We were unable to get anyone to think this was good for the most part. outside of a few broken people in our country that thought this was a good idea who are broken in many different ways and have been broken.

38:35Tim Dillon:And they've been, you know, they've been completely captured by money or blackmail or whatever. And they're just, they've been in Washington forever and their business is war. But rank and file people never thought this was a good idea. Human beings you would bump into outside of a few ideological people, everybody was like, nah, it's a bad idea. It's a bad idea. We shouldn't do it. And now we have Vance launching his presidential campaign going, hey, Iran has a right to defend itself. They have the right to defend itself. We got into this skirmish. We got into a fight. It happens. And we're going to lift sanctions.

39:17Tim Dillon:We're going to give them a couple of bucks. and J.D. Van should have looked at her and said, Iran's in its bad girl era. And you can't stop a bad bitch. You can't stop a bad bitch. What do you want us to do? We are in our era as a country. We are in our Carmela Soprano at the end era. Can you get up the scene of the Sopranos where Carmela confesses to the priest and then the priest tells her that she knows where all the money was coming? Maybe it was a psychologist or a priest. I forget who it was. Where basically the guy goes, you knew. You knew where all this money was coming from. Maybe it's not this.

40:01Tim Dillon:I don't think it's this one. This is the one where her and the priest almost hook up. We want the one, I think, where she speaks to a psychologist or a priest. and basically the gist of it is Carmelo Soprano is saying, hey she wants to be absolved basically of her culpability in her husband's crimes you know, we lived really well but you know, I didn't really know and the priest, the psychologist, I really forget who it is he basically says, well you knew where the money was coming from and you knew you knew exactly what was going on and you've lived very well off this money and she's shocked by this because she's the Don's wife.

40:46Tim Dillon:So everyone treats her with like a modicum of respect. Even the local parish priest, he depends on her donations. So nobody really tells Carmela that she's culpable in like Tony's shit, in his crimes. And that's the era that we're in. Like we're finally getting this comeuppance. we're finally being told the limits of our power and we're finally being told you cannot sell yourself as the moral savior of the world after the things you've done. I think this is, yeah. Okay, here we go. The Sopranos right here. Take it away. Let's watch this. If we can, it takes a little time here, but I think it's important to watch this for everybody.

41:37Tim Dillon:I want you to imagine Carmela Soprano is the United States of America in this clip. This is the era that we're in. Iran, for good or ill, I'm no fan of Iran, but they're in their bad bitch era. They're in their bad bitch era. It's sexy summer fun for the Islamic Republic. They're baddies right now. So that's their era because they just tangled with us. They came out. It's hard to not say they came out on top if this thing sticks. Here's Carmela Soprano. This is us. The United States of America. Take it away. Marriage has problems. Is he seeing another woman? Yeah, you can make that plural. Yes, he sees other women.

42:27I sort of look the other way. I want to help him. Do you? Moments ago you used the word divorce. I said I was considering divorce. I may be overstepping my boundaries here, but... She's talking about Israel. Aren't you? Is that relevant? Well, us Catholics, we place a great deal of stock in the sanctity of the family. And I am not sure that your people... I've been married for 31 years. Well, then you know how difficult it can be. He's a good man. He's a good father. You tell me he's a depressed criminal. Prone to anger, serially unfaithful. Is that your definition of a good man? I thought psychiatrists weren't supposed to be judgmental.

43:19Many patients want to be excused for their current predicament because of events that occurred in their childhood. That's what psychiatry has become in America. Visit any shopping mall or ethnic pride parade to witness the results.

43:38What we say in here stays in here, right? By ethical code, by law. His crimes. They are organized crime. The mafia. Oh, Jesus.

43:57Oh, so what? So what? This is us. He betrays me every week with these whores. I mean, this is us. Probably the least of his misdeeds.

44:10You can leave now or you can stay and hear what I have to say.

44:17Well, you're gonna charge the same anyway. I won't take your money. That's a new one. I don't trust your initial impulse and consider leaving him. You'll never be able to feel good about yourself. You'll never be able to call the feelings of guilt and shame that you talked about. As long as you're his accomplice. You're wrong about the accomplice part, though. You sure? All I do is make sure he's got clean clothes in his closet. This is the way we talk about Israel. We just make sure they have weapons. My apologies.

44:57So, you think I need to define my boundaries more clearly? Keep a certain distance, not internalize my... What did I just say?

45:12Leave him. Take only the children that's left of them and go. My priest said I should try and work with him, help him to be a better man. How's that going?

45:28I... Have you ever read Crime and Punishment? Dostoevsky. It's not an easy read. It's about guilt and redemption. And I think for your husband to turn himself in, read this book, can reflect on his crimes every day for seven years in his cell, then he might be redeemed. I would have to get a lawyer, find an apartment, arrange for child support. You're not listening. I'm not charging you because I won't take blood money. You can't either. one thing you can never say that you haven't been told.

46:13Tim Dillon:Well, there it is. Wow. So it took a little bit, but I mean, that's our era. And it's not a happy era. Although she does cheer up later on. I think they go out to a dinner, get a nice Italian meal, which I think does kind of fix a lot of it. But that's the era that we're in. We're being told. We've been told. We know what's up. we cannot run around this globe getting people to do what we want we cannot be you know attached to Benjamin Netanyahu at the hip it doesn't work it's not going to work we'll destroy the entire country we've been told we do know this isn't a shock uh as much as it but it it to some people it is but it isn't a shock when you take into consideration all the evidence that has been mounting about the decline of the American, not only hard power, but soft power.

47:09You know,

47:10Tim Dillon:we can no longer run around the world building coalitions and convincing people of things. We don't have the moral high ground anymore. Nobody thinks we do. We are seen as an enabler of the overreach of countries like Israel. We've backed a lot of dictators in our day. We invaded Iraq. We invaded Afghanistan. We sent millions of refugees throughout Europe. We've destabilized the political systems of Europe, of the Netherlands, of the UK. And the ramifications of that are all quite obvious to anyone who is paying attention. We cannot claim that we have only been a force for good. We've certainly not only been a force for evil.

47:54Tim Dillon:We've done good things for sure, okay? but we now know that we there is a real limit to what we can go out there and do and we are Carmela at the end that's where we are we've been we've lived in a big house for a while it's been fun the the the the kids communions and the Sunday dinner Sunday supper making the sauce we made a lot of sauce Sunday suppers we had a lot of barbecues in the backyard we lived in a big suburban mansion for a long time mini mansion whatever mick mansion but whatever for a guy who's in waste management pretty good we had a lot of fun and you know we kind of knew where the money was coming from.

48:48Tim Dillon:Let's be honest. There's nobody in this country that's completely innocent. We all knew. We didn't do it. We weren't pressing buttons and firing the missiles, but we sang along to the Toby Keith songs and we thought it was cool and we watched all the movies and we kind of created this idea that we were this unimpeachable force for good and, you know, whatever it was, the cheap food or the cheap gas or whatever we got out of it, We knew where it was coming from. But all we did, like Carmela Soprano, was make sure that the government had clean clothes. That's all we did. That's all she said. Not a compliment.

49:26Tim Dillon:I'm not an accomplice. I just made sure he had clean clothes. I just did the laundry. And that's Carmela at the end. Goes, I just did the laundry. She didn't believe that. She doesn't believe that. But she's trying to make herself believe that so she can sleep. but we did more than the laundry. Carmela did more than the laundry. She took the trips to Paris. She went to the Plaza Hotel at Meadow and at T. She went out to dinner. She went on the vacation. She enjoyed the spoils of the empire that her criminal husband has built. And so have we. And we have to reckon with that now, and we have to understand why we can no longer moralize to the rest of the world.

50:16Tim Dillon:Obviously, the people that run Iran are psychopaths who I don't think have the best interests of their people at heart. They're a theocratic fascist government that inhibits the rights of women. We get it. There's no love laws here for the Islamic Republic of Iran, by the way. but we do have to think about this is a stunning and humiliating defeat on the world stage and we have to understand that we can no longer pretend that we are going to be able to dominate we're not going to be able to dominate we're going to share the globe we're going to share the world whether you like it whether you think it's cool whether Netanyahu likes it, we're not going to be able to just go in and topple the government anymore.

51:13Tim Dillon:We can't do it. We won't do it. We're not going to send 150 ,000 of our kids to go do it. We're not going to do it. We're not going to send 150 ,000 people to go die in Iran so that we can dominate and really allow Israel to dominate that region. It's not going to happen. And Vance, for all his flaws, of which there are many, knows that. He knows that. Vance is a political animal. Here's what I mean. The guy wants the job. I don't know that he'll get it, but he wants the motherfucking job. And he knows the public's not behind this. He knows the voters don't want it. He knows his own constituency, vast numbers of them don't want it.

52:03Tim Dillon:his aspirations are political. He knows that the MAGA movement is starting to be pulled apart and it's fraying and there's only so many parties you can throw. There's only so many UFC events at the White House lawn you can throw to keep these people entertained. Hey, there's only so many concerts in the park or whatever the hell they're going to try to do. Kid Rock can only fly, do a flyby, a stealth bomber so many times before people start to go, hey, what's going on here? Why don't I have any money? Why don't I have any money? Did you see Kid Rock? Dude, he did a, shut up. Where's my money? I don't have any money.

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57:31Tim Dillon:Because he likes talking. They want to chat. Who's on this list? We've got a lot of luminaries. Our friend Sam Harris is on the list. He goes there to teach meditation. Just breathe. We're here at the Dialogue Society. Just breathe. So there's a lot of people on this list. We have journalists on the list. We've got governors on the list, army secretaries, treasury secretaries, president at Cato Institute, Nobel laureate economist, Kushner, Trump's son-in-law. We've got Ezra Klein, who's a political commentator. Rick Warren, who's an evangelical pastor. Billionaires, we've got Elon Musk, Eric Schmidt of Google, Musk, Peter Thiel, Henry Kravis, Macro Scalperin, Mike Cannon, Brooks, Scott Cook, Barry Sternlich, Nicholas Berggruen, John Arnold, Joe Lonsdale, Palantir.

58:35Tim Dillon:I went to a party at his house once, talked about him on the show, was never invited back. He does have a beautiful pool. It's 90 feet. Do not sue me. Reid Hoffman, Netflix. I did. I went to a party at his home in Austin. This was the days of the intellectual dark web, and he invited me, and I went, and he's got a stunning pool. And I met his wife and his wife comes in and he didn't introduce her by name. He said, third generation Stanford. They're all very strange, these people. They're incredibly strange. They don't eat. Here's the thing about the tech people. They don't, and do not sue me. It's not fair.

59:06Tim Dillon:They don't eat. Don't sue me in my 500th episode. So they don't eat. Joe Lonsdale, friend of the show, loves Barry Weiss, that whole crew. Palantir guy. And don't kill me either. Don't sue me and don't kill me. It's wrong. so they don't eat, the tech people don't eat. And he had like this thing in his house. And I met one of the Bush, George P. Bush, who's like one of the Hispanic Bushes, but like really Hispanic. You know, he's like, I'm like, how are you? He's like, muy bien. You know, but he's like a Bush. So you're like, oh, because you forget he's Jeb's son, I think, and Jeb married Columba.

59:48Tim Dillon:and Barbara said literally, you'll never be president. You just married the maid. Barbara said it. I didn't say it. Now here's the deal. I was at the house and they have a, they had like a Thai food truck or like a vegan Thai food truck or whatever. And I, no one was eating. You didn't see anyone eating. But he's got, I'm a swimmer and I love pools. And I think he's got one of the best pools you can ever have. And I went on the show and I talked about it.

1:00:26Tim Dillon:And he didn't like it. He was like mad. He was like angry. And I think I was kind of complimentary. I don't know. You know, I think I'm being complimentary. But, you know, because when I first moved to Austin, that was, this is not his house. There's another house. He might have bought another house. He might have 10 houses. The point is this. the one I saw had an unbelievable pool and he was telling me he wanted to build another city to compete with Austin to make Austin better the one thing about these tech guys they do have big dreams and he goes I want to build another city with universities and I want to pressure Austin to be better because of this other city I want to build and you know what do you do like how do you even respond to that I was like oh that's cool it's like what I said he's like I want to build another city and you know they don't really look at you when they talk to him I want to build another city to pressure Austin to be better because the infrastructure in Austin needs to be better.

1:01:18Tim Dillon:And if we built another city and I just went, oh, that's cool. And then he invited me shooting. Like they go out and dress up in like army things and like crawl around and shoot in like a military, like a fake military thing. All these tech people, by the way, it's all fake. Like they, all of this, like they're LARPing as these things they're not. so they're all like obsessed with like this idea of masculinity and you know so he's like we go like shooting but it's like a it's like a military game and i was like oh no i can't i was like yeah yeah i don't know that day i'm busy um i you know pool party or you know uh uh, tacos.

1:02:13Tim Dillon:Sure. I, I don't want to do like military fake games, but a lot of them do that. So a lot of them do that. They all love these conferences. They go to these weird conferences and maybe not him. Do not sue me or kill me. And if you do, everyone will know they will know it's you. Um, and, uh, you know, but like they, these tech people, they do these activities where they like, I don't know. It feels like a bunch of people that have never grown up. Like I was talking to a friend of mine recently, he was talking about Sam Altman, and he's like, everything can be digitized. Every single human interaction, emotion, it's all just data sets.

1:02:49Tim Dillon:And you're like, oh, you don't know anything about life. You're barely a human being. These people are barely human beings. Okay? And it's what's interesting about them. And by the way,

1:03:06Tim Dillon:obviously, there's tons of benefits to technology. But let's also be honest, some things just suck now. Like I went, my friend, I went to my friend's house. He lives in the Valley with his family and his lovely family. And we were like, we're sitting there talking and I showed them my cat. I have a kitten. We're going to bring the kitten up. The kitten's not ready. The kitten, the kitten just got banned from Ireland actually because of things that it had posted. Crazy things. And I don't even want to say them on the air, but you know, So, you know, it was just very, you know, it was a lot of the restore the sovereignty, but it kind of went overboard.

1:03:47Tim Dillon:But I showed the family the kitten. They got some kids. They thought the cat was great. The wife loved the cat. And then my friend goes, let's go to McDonald's. We should go to McDonald's. Let's eat in a McDonald's. When's the last time you've eaten in a McDonald's? And me and his wife were all kind of laughed. We went, you know, we hadn't. We hadn't. And we used to eat, I used to eat in McDonald's all the time. Would swim practice after, you know, when I was seven or eight years old. me and my father would go eat in McDonald's. McDonald's has the best fast food breakfast. At that time, I haven't been there in a minute.

1:04:16Tim Dillon:I'm sure it still holds up. But let me tell you right now. So if you've been in a McDonald's recently or any fast food restaurant, it's all kiosks. So you have to order on the screen which is stained with ketchup. So you're touching a screen that a million other people, including homeless people, have touched. And I'm not trying to go with the homeless. I'm just saying there's fecal matter on the screen you touch. There's a shit and piss coating on the screen that you have to touch. Now, if you have a customizable order, which I really don't, I get a filet of fish, I get a quarter pounder, I get a small fry, and sometimes a four nugget, a four-piece nugget.

1:05:08Tim Dillon:Because I just like the mouth feel of the barbecue sauce, the sweet, tangy barbecue sauce. And I just like the barbecue sauce. Do I even need the nugget? I could thumb it in, actually, because I just want that package of barbecue. So we go there, and he's got a family where, like, you know, one kid doesn't eat onions. The other kid doesn't eat pickles. This one wants this. So you've got to stand there for 30 minutes. By the way, nobody is behind the counter at McDonald's anymore. There's, like, people in the back, and there's, like, one manager who's, like, very stressed out because all these kiosk orders keep coming out wrong.

1:05:43Tim Dillon:They keep coming out wrong, and people keep going up with their food, going, I didn't order this, or I requested this. And this thing that's supposed to be efficient, that's supposed to save McDonald's a lot of money, you know, you used to walk into McDonald's, and there was a person there, and you would order from the person. And the person, sometimes like in the olden times, they would put the food on the tray in front of you while you stood there. But now you order at a kiosk, you take a number and then sit at a table in the McDonald's and wait for your order to come. And then by the time you get it, the fries are called, things are wrong, and then they ask for the receipt.

1:06:25Tim Dillon:So a little kid went up and goes, I didn't get my McFlurry, it was a little kid. He's like eight. and the woman's like, where's your receipt? So now you've got an eight-year-old trying to find the receipt to the McFlurry and his parents are like, I don't know, he's eight. Like, let's try to find the receipt, but he definitely ordered it. We're here and he did order it and then he finally gave it to them. But what I mean is like, we're taking people out of this. For what reason? For what reason? Because McDonald's, it's not more efficient. It's not, and it's not better. but it makes McDonald's more money but they're not paying their people more but it's not more efficient it's not better the experience sucks every fast food oh you're talking about fast food fuck you yes yes it's part of our culture it's not good fine eat sauerkraut with RFK he seems happy whatever you want whatever you people want to do I'm not saying eat fast food all the time but this is a good example these are entry level jobs that used to be for teenagers.

1:07:27Tim Dillon:Teenagers used to work at fast food. You know what now they're doing? They're killing each other and filming it to put on TikTok. That's what they're doing. There are mobs of teenagers running around the country killing people, stopping out other kids, and putting it on TikTok. By the way, is this, do you have, oh yeah. Or they're doing teen takeovers, violence. I don't want to say that they're all black because there are some white kids, the Gilbert Goons. There are white kids that do this too. but there are, this happens to be a video of a lot of black ones, but there are also many violent white ones and so there's these teen takeovers and by the way these kids used to have jobs, they used to work in movie theaters and they used to work at places like McDonald's, these were entry level jobs for kids or immigrants, whatever so those are gone and they're going away, so what are the kids going to do, well they roam the streets with their phones trying to go viral kicking someone in the head they try to go viral stepping on someone's head because they don't understand the consequences of their actions and they don't understand that someone could hit their head and die they don't understand that they could spend the rest of their life in jail they don't understand they're living in a video game they're fucking young teenagers they don't have any no one's teaching them responsibility all they want to be is famous all they want to be is rich all they've seen is live streamers get famous for no goddamn reason all they've seen is it doesn't make any sense why any particular person has any money so it's a casino and a grift and it's perfectly encompassed by the MAGA movement which is just a bunch of people running around Palm Beach cheating on their wives, doing drugs grifting, pumping up meme coins and shit coins I mean truly that's what it is whatever you think it is on the outside that's what it really is It's just a bunch of people tearing the remaining parts of flesh off the carcass of this empire.

1:09:23Tim Dillon:That's what it is. And these kids have grown up, and these are their elders. These are the people they look up to for guidance. So they don't work at McDonald's anymore, and you're literally pressing filet-o-fish on a computer screen where it's stained by shit. so what exactly have we done in those areas is it better now all of the mcdonald's look like storage facilities all the fast food restaurants look like storage facilities everybody orders everything on amazon nobody goes to any uh unless you're wealthy or unless you live by a cute little outdoor mall or a farmer's market unless you were doing that you're just ordering things on amazon or you're going to Walmart?

1:10:12Tim Dillon:Is that better? Is shopping better? I'm asking, is shopping better? Is going out, is grabbing burgers with your kids better now than it was when you can't look at a human? Are these things better? It doesn't seem to me that it's better. Is having a robot show up to your house with a burrito necessarily better than a human being? It doesn't feel like it. The robot takes longer. even if the robot was faster, which it's not. It's a robot and it's not a human being. Well, this is how people are going to evolve and get new jobs. What are the new jobs? Crypto scams? Smashing your face with a hammer?

1:10:52Tim Dillon:What are the new jobs? I'm just kind of asking, what are the, working at data centers? Are those the new jobs? Working at data centers are the new jobs. Those are the new jobs that people are supposed to do. What are kids supposed to do that can't work at fast food restaurants or movie theaters or retail stores? what are they supposed to do i'll tell you what they're going to do they're going to walk around and they're going to step on each other's heads and put it on tiktok for clout whoa yo what are they all supposed to do what's everybody said what's everybody supposed to do how about a 14 point plan deal with america how about a 14 point deal with the united states of america the country that you people were elected to govern.

1:11:36Tim Dillon:How about 14 points, a deal with tech? How about a 14 point deal with tech and the people that don't want any regulation of AI and they want to destroy people's privacy? They want to destroy people's autonomy, their bodily autonomy. I mean, how about we make a 14 point plan with them? Can we do that? Can we get the heads of the tech companies in a room and hammer at a 14-point plan? Or is that not as important as the Islamic Republic of Iran? Because we do have to be honest, tech has done a lot of amazing things. I'm sitting here right now doing a show where nobody tells me what to say because we are on YouTube platform that allows this to happen.

1:12:24Tim Dillon:The cost of production of my show is relatively low. I don't have the executives. I don't have standards and practices. I don't have marketing. Nobody tells me what to say on this show. That's what makes it good. You know, that couldn't have happened 20 years ago. So I'm grateful to a lot of advancements and I've made a living and I've made good money. So I totally understand. But here's the idea. We need to have a discussion about artificial intelligence. But here's J.D. Vance. Again, this is J.D. Vance, friend of the show, in an interview about AI. And now Vance is the tech candidate. Rubio is the Israel war candidate.

1:13:12Tim Dillon:Vance is the tech candidate, but the tech people also get involved in the global wars. They love them. They love them. And the national security state apparatus can also fuck with the tech people. So it's really just about who can sell this better because these two groups, which are different and have different interests, have a lot of overlapping interest in terms of continuing to make large amounts of money. so here's jd vance on artificial intelligence but by the way it's very well known i'm not i'm not shitting on jd vance i'm just saying it is very well known that he is the tech candidate in the race jd vance when i look at ai i don't see mass unemployment as the most likely consequence i think people will become more productive i think some people's jobs will change some people will lose their job right but i just don't buy this idea i haven't seen any evidence in the data right that's going to lead to mass unemployment yeah oh interesting he doesn't he hasn't seen any evidence or data now by the way a lot of the people who are involved in the creation of ai have predicted this and have literally said that uh they're going to eliminate like ai is going to eliminate lots of jobs jd vance has said he hasn't seen any evidence or data of that by the way all there is is evidence.

1:14:44Tim Dillon:It's the testimony of people that were involved in creating the technology. Those people have come out with like stern warnings going this is going to be real disruptive. This is going to be real tough. J.D. Vance goes, I haven't seen any evidence or data of that. Where are you looking? Are you not looking? Where are you what are you talking about? You haven't seen any evidence or data of that? This guy's online like more than I am. This guy's online. This guy's on X all day. You haven't, you're, this guy's on YouTube. This guy's in comments. You haven't come across any evidence or data that AI is going to lead to mass unemployment and layoffs.

1:15:25Tim Dillon:You've never heard that argument. You've never watched that Tucker Ben Shapiro thing about self-driving trucks. And it's a, it's a discussion about what will happen if we institute, what are you talking about? You're good friends with Tucker. And you, What do you mean you've never heard? This is the problem with him. Instead of giving an answer that sounds remotely believable, let's listen to him again. I think I really worry about what AI is surveillance. AI is... Oh, this is another clip. Okay. This is another clip. I want to watch. We're going to watch this clip. But before that, let's watch the previous clip.

1:16:04Tim Dillon:Because this is a Vance-ism. This is very interesting. It's, it's, it's whosoever he's in a room with here. Let's, let's watch this. Um, he's basically saying, and it's one of my favorite quotes. I think I've heard come out of his mouth. Um, I, I have just never seen any evidence or data or anything. And it's like, well, what are you talking about evidence? Like, would circumstantial evidence be the people who created the technology are warning about this constantly? Would that be considered evidence? Here he is. JD Vance, friend of the show. Let's get, I can't hear him. Okay. So, I mean, this is what he does.

1:16:46Tim Dillon:He lies in a way that isn't good. He doesn't know how to lie. He doesn't know what, he just basically, he tries to like take himself out of it. Goes, well, I haven't seen any, I haven't seen any evidence. Okay, here he is. When I look at AI, I don't see mass unemployment as the most likely consequence. I think people will become more productive. I think some people's jobs will change. Some people will lose their jobs. But I just don't buy this idea. And I haven't seen any evidence in the data that it's going to lead to mass unemployment. Okay. No evidence. No evidence. No data. Evidence in the data.

1:17:30Tim Dillon:I don't see any evidence. the people who are instrumental in creating the technology come out and tell you this is what it's going to do. They're not at all like being like vague about their intentions. They literally come out and go, yeah, a lot of people aren't going to have jobs. They tell you that. They come out and say it. Now let's watch that surveillance clip because that's very interesting. He's concerned about surveillance. That's comforting. so go back go back to the beginning of this jd vance here is concerned about surveillance i think i really worry about with ai surveillance ai is you know a friend of mine once said that ai is fundamentally a communist technology in that it allows governments and corporations to surveil people in very profound in different ways and that scares me a lot like i don't want a social credit system that's powered by AI.

1:18:26I don't want you to not be able to buy a beer because some tech CEO has given you a stop it for a minute.

1:18:33Tim Dillon:Stop it. Who are these tech CEOs? Like he says some tech CEO as if he's not sponsored by the tech CEOs and friends with the tech CEOs. I mean, this is a little bit, this is very difficult for him. This is the difficulty that he's going to have in this upcoming campaign. and he's like, I don't want some taxi. I was like, well, I don't know. You're sitting next to him at dinner. Why don't you tell him not to? Let him buy the beer. Hey, can you let this guy buy the beer? He's a good guy. Let him buy the beer. You're at dinner with the guy. So then just tell him. It's like when I had dinner with Vance, I said, just release everything.

1:19:11Tim Dillon:I'm a podcaster. I have no real power, but just release everything. Release every file you have. Release everything. They've not done that. But that's the only way that you can wash your hands of this. You release everything. you commission an independent investigation you have Jusselin Maxwell testify all this stuff you gotta do it if you don't do it you'll be inherently suspect forever it's just what it is it's maximum transparency or you're suspect forever and then there's no amount of UFC fights in the White House lawn there's no amount of fireworks and there's no amount of military flyovers you can do that are going to satisfy people because everybody's gonna go you are participating in a cover up of the worst crime imaginable It's very simple.

1:19:52Tim Dillon:It's not difficult. It's very easy. But it's never going to happen. Or it's certainly not going to happen under this administration. Let's let him finish his answer here about the surveillance state that they're all worried about, which is why they gave Sam Altman half a trillion dollars. By the way, because of the surveillance state that they're all worried about. It's why that they wanted to murder. I'm not kidding. they wanted Palantir and Palantir's might be doing it to merge all of the databases that collect information on you the federal government's databases whether it's the health concerning health issues or criminal justice issues they wanted Palantir to come in and merge them all and merge them

1:20:44Tim Dillon:and now he's going I'm concerned that a tech CEO wouldn't want to buy you a beer or you couldn't buy a beer because a tech CEO wouldn't let you. But you guys wanted Palantir to come in and organize all the federal government's data and merge all of these databases together. What the hell's that? What would that be used for? What exactly would that be used for? Birthday cards? Knowing everybody's birthday? Knowing when people retire, You could send them a little gift. What exactly would a database, a grand database that Palantir builds, that integrates all the information the government has about you and builds a profile on you.

1:21:32Tim Dillon:What exactly would that be used for? I'm just confused. So here we go again. Let's let him finish. Let's give him, let's give him the benefit of many doubts. Based on an artificial intelligence algorithm that nobody actually understands that scares me too but i don't think we're gonna have mass unemployment we might have mass inequality that's its own problem it's a different problem though interesting good well the good news is we won't have mass unemployment the bad news is we might have like uh calcutta style slums so we will have mass inequality uh that might suck i don't know how we get there with that mass unemployment.

1:22:16Tim Dillon:Again, that's just so funny. That's just such a funny thing to say. It's such a great thing to say. It's a funny thing to say, hey, we're not going to have mass unemployment. We might have massive inequality. That's a different problem. Everybody will be working at the data center. They will eat, they'll be able to lick the nutrient brick that we will keep them alive. We will keep them on a diet where they can stay alive to work at the data center. Another friend of mine, by the way, they're building these data centers and they just put an ad in the Wall Street Journal. I believe it was the journal.

1:22:54Tim Dillon:And Mike Rowe from Dirty Jobs, is that the guy from Dirty Jobs? They're doing this thing that where they're sponsoring, they're going to pay people to learn how to build data centers. Okay? They're going to pay people to learn how to do these construction jobs. And yeah, this is the guy from Dirty Jobs. So they just, there's this ad or this article in the Wall Street Journal. because by the way, everything now, and I want to talk about this briefly. Everything is very interesting. I have a friend that works at a YouTube startup where they're doing shows for new creators, like long-form YouTube shows.

1:23:25Tim Dillon:Where is the money coming from? Well, a lot of the money is coming from Democrat super PACs. And the money is coming from Democrat super PACs that are funding these, you know, longer-form shows that YouTube wants to do with young creators because the Democrat super PACs, and probably not all Democrat, and not exclusively Democrat, but like these PACs, political action committees, these 501Cs, whatever they, they want an audience. They want a captive audience. So if your channel has 10 million people that are watching content that you have funded and you have gotten behind and you have that audience, you've collected 10 million people that are watching your stuff and then you can program that channel to have whatever messaging you want or whatever political ads you want or this, that, and the other thing.

1:24:21Tim Dillon:So basically, instead of like a clear cut, like you know it's a commercial, you know what's happening, you know, I'll do an ad for Polymarket, I'll do an ad for Bluetooth, I'll do an ad for fucking Helix Mattress, you kind of know what's happening. Some of this now is becoming a little more insidious where you're watching a channel, you're watching content on a channel. that channel exists solely to create an audience to be programmed in some political way. And that's why a lot of the money, because instead of saying, hey, let's just run ads on established, they go, let's get behind creators. Let's make money.

1:25:07Tim Dillon:let's build an audience and we now have a captive audience for whatever messaging that we have the wall street journal op-ed quote high tech seeks skilled tradesmen co-authored by meta president dina powell mccormick and mike rowe announces america's workforce academy this 115 million dollar initiative aims to resolve the massive skilled labor shortage needed to construct AI and digital data center infrastructure. They're going to pay you to learn how to build these data centers. And then once they're built, your job is over. And they are paying you to build these data centers. You're going to build the things that replace you.

1:25:54Tim Dillon:And then the job's over. A fast-tracked five-week training program covering high demand vocation, such as electrical work, plumbing, welding, fiber optics, and HVAC. Costs and benefits. Training is completely free. Meta and its partners, including CBRE and the associated builders and contractors, cover all tuition, airfare, lodging, and provide a daily stipend during the training period. Guaranteed jobs. Every graduate receives an industry-recognized credential and a guaranteed job on a Meta construction project or with a partner. Mike Rowe, via his foundation, has spent decades advocating for the dignity of blue-collar work in addressing the nation's widening skills gap.

1:26:34Tim Dillon:His foundation is helping scale a practical bridge, linking eager workers with debt-free six-figure potential trade centers. Now, Mike Rowe might just be saying they're going to learn all these skills and they'll build the data center, but they'll still have these skills and they'll still be employable, so whatever. I'm not questioning Mike Rowe's motives. I don't know him and I don't care. Or they just medicate him a shitload of money and he's telling, and he's leading people like Lambs to the slaughter. I don't really know. I don't know. But what I will say is this is interesting. They go, we finally have jobs.

1:27:00Tim Dillon:high-skilled labor jobs, and we'll pay you to learn. And why are we doing that? Oh, to build these data centers. That's why we're doing it. We could have done this to fix American infrastructure. We could have done it to fix roads and bridges. We could have done it to make our cities beautiful. We could have done it to make our public spaces beautiful and inspiring. We didn't do it. We're only doing it now at the behest of Meta so that they can build massive AI data centers. So finally, we have shovel-ready jobs for skilled tradesmen. But here's the kicker. You are building the thing that will inevitably replace you and many other people in your community.

1:27:50So that's, listen, there's always a catch.

1:27:55Tim Dillon:There's always a little bit of a catch, and this happens to be the catch. This happens to be the catch. You finally have a job and you work for six months to a year. You build this massive data center and then, you know, good luck. We're going to bring in people to run the data center and, you know, we really don't know what you're going to do after that. So all of these people are being, they're saying, Bill, we're going to pay for you to learn the skills. We're going to train you so you can build these data centers that will eventually replace all the jobs. Although our vice president, J.D. Vance, has said that we do not need to worry about joblessness coming from AI, only vast inequality and potential surveillance.

1:28:49Tim Dillon:Well, there you have it. You know, there you have it. That's where we're at. But I'm happy we're out of Iran.

1:29:01Tim Dillon:It's better than nothing. It's better than nothing. It's better than still being there. 500 episodes, 500 hours of this show. We started this show in 2016. And I've done it 500 hours, a bunch of hours on Patreon. I think our country is healthier now than it's ever been, happier now that it's ever been smarter and more hopeful about the future. And I think I've had something to do with that, not to pat myself on the back, but a lot of people get on here and they're negative for the hour and I don't do it. You know, I'm, there's so much pressure to be negative and to feast on negative news and, uh, you know, enrich yourself in the process.

1:29:43Tim Dillon:But what I've chosen to do day in and day out is consistently highlight the positive aspects of humanity and help everyone build a bridge to their future self, their better, smarter, more successful future self. So thank you for being a part of that journey. Obviously, we will be back next week and all the other weeks until I am put in jail. And they will put me in jail eventually. It will be some type of jail. I will be in jail. And that's okay. that's okay eventually Peter Thiel, J.D. Vance, Joe Lonsdale whatever his name is I will be in jail and you know I'll be in some type of re-education camp or whatever because I have spoken out against the future because they're going to start calling it that by the way they're just going to start calling it the future and anyone that doesn't like it or anyone who questions it and all of this stuff about surveillance and all that, they're worried about surveillance.

1:30:50Tim Dillon:I'm worried about surveillance. This is all fake. Obviously, you're not stupid. You guys know this. It is all meant to give you the idea that there's some debate or there's some thing, but there's no 14-point deal. It's with Iran. And the only time they reign these tech people in is when banks flip out and go, we could lose all our fucking money. AI could figure out, or AI's going to figure out some way to let the nukes fly. It has nothing to do with you. It has nothing to do. And by the way, all these bans, like UK is going to ban the phones for kids under 16. By the way, I'm all for getting people off the fucking phone.

1:31:26Tim Dillon:They should ban them for anyone under 90, by the way. But here's the point. It has nothing to do with the mental health of your children. You know that. It's so that your children cannot, in their very formative year, and listen, there's a lot of people online that victimize children, all that stuff, and that should end. And those people should obviously be prosecuted. But that's not what it's about. what it is about is in your child's formative years, they're not going to encounter ideas that challenge the authority of the state. That's what that's about. They're not going to be exposed to ideas that might make them question the legitimacy of the state, the corporate oligarchy, the technocracy, the entirety of the power structure.

1:32:24Tim Dillon:They're not going to question it. And by the time that we do introduce this technology to them, we've had, hopefully, what? If we give it to them at 16, they start going to school at five. We've had about 15 years of brainwashing. 15 years of brainwashing before we hand them. And I'm not saying phones are great, by the way. They've ruined everything. But, like, make no mistake, that's not why they're, they're not, they don't care about your kid's mental health at all. At all, by the way. This is so that they have a head start of 15 years of brainwashing before your child comes in contact with any idea that would question the legitimacy of whatever the hell the people in power are trying to do.

1:33:16Tim Dillon:That's what it is. And that's why there's going to be a ban in the UK. And don't think, again, why is there a ban now in the UK? Well, the UK is having a lot of issues with a lot of different things, from migration to the economy. And there's a lot of anger, especially amongst younger people. And that has to be quelled. I'm not saying all that anger is justified or that it's being, you know, like articulated in the right way. But I am saying that in order to shut down this conversation, they need to get these ideas out of the hands of younger people. Because a lot of younger people are very angry.

1:33:59Tim Dillon:They're anxious about the opportunities that they're going to have. They're questioning why in their own country, some of them feel less safe or certainly less prosperous. And in order to shut down that conversation, you have to take away their ability to be exposed to ideas that are not filtered to the prism of the state and corporate media. I hope that's not a shock to everyone. Again, I'm not a fan of your 14-year-old spending all day on the phone. But make no mistake, the government of the UK or Australia or whatever, they don't care. they are doing this because they realize they're losing the plot they're losing legitimacy in the eyes of young people they're losing authority in the eyes of young people when a kid says i've been stabbed and the cops go no you haven't and he's laying there bleeding out and the cops choose to believe a guy because they have to operate in this framework of, you know, equity and political correctness and things they barely understand.

1:35:09Tim Dillon:And young people see that and are filled with rage and go, that kid could have been me bleeding out on the street. Now it's time to take everybody's funds. Obviously. 500 hours. Here's to 501. Thank you, everyone. good night your social media feed delivers plenty of advice but it doesn't know you it doesn't ask questions it doesn't give physical exams or order tests doctors do at the american medical association we believe the best care starts with a real conversation with someone who understands the science and your unique health so stay curious ask questions but when it's time to make decisions make them with a doctor.

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