Alannah is Gonnah: Thursday, June 25th, 2026

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18:02Jackie Oshry:Thank you. Love Primal Kitchen. Sorry, I wanted to say one more thing that reminded me. And I'm going to say it because I know you're going to stop me. I had a meeting yesterday about a project that we're working on. And Jackie will never let me, like, spoil anything. But I'm going to. Spoil. Jackie and I actually are working on two major projects this year. Yes. The one that I had a meeting about yesterday will hopefully be launching at the end of the year. And when I left this meeting, like I was, I felt like I had like done a lot of cocaine. I was invigorated. We have so many party things coming.

18:26Jackie Oshry:Not to be annoying. I just want to say like, expect greatness from the toast in Q4. All we can say is watch this space. That's all. All we can say secret project. And not to be those girls, but like, yeah. P.U. Projects. We have two.

18:39Claudia Oshry:Secret projects. So. Watch this space. Okay. I'm ready for the stories. First story. West Wilson is addressing it all on some video series called Whiteboard with a guy who does things on a whiteboard.

18:56Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I think maybe I've seen their videos before and it wasn't a series I was familiar with, but it's these two guys who do like whiteboard explanations of like big topics. So I've seen that like, not them, but I've seen like another girl do it where it's like, here is all the drama that's going on between Drake and Kendrick Lamar explained to you. So they do like explanations on a whiteboard.

19:14Claudia Oshry:Got it. They also appear to be West's close personal friends because they were at the Yankee game with West and Amanda when they went to the Yankee game.

19:20Jackie Oshry:Yes. So I didn't know when I watched the whole video, I had no context on who these people were. And then by the end of the video, I felt it was crazy because I think up until this point, this might have been the worst thing that West had done for his Q score. The video enraged me, actually. First of all, I feel like he's admitted to so many more lies. he is such a liar and I think he was actually speaking like quite derogatorily about Amanda which is like the only person left on his side and like when the guys were like saying things oh you fucked Amanda like that's what you're signing up for like I just thought I actually think I just like him more than ever like any ounce of goodwill I felt for him like oh maybe they're in love oh my god I thought it was so disgusting and then to find out these are your best friends they were at the Yankee game they've been to a million summer house parties they're like a part of your friend group so this was the most flattering they could have make it

20:08Claudia Oshry:oh my god I thought it was horrible so this was part one there's more coming and there's like more on the board oh no part two was already out oh I didn't see part two I didn't see me part one part one is the gist honestly yeah but then there's like more on the board Dara Italy Mija etc which I haven't gotten to yet so he is going through the timeline again they're starting from the beginning he's sharing more and everyone in the comments is like this is like literally more than he said on the entire reunion like these are the things that we wanted to know but he is talking about like the video the video in the apartment which wasn't really addressed on the reunion I don't know why no and he says it was like the catalyst for that shit statement because

20:46Jackie Oshry:they had had their own plan to like light everyone figure out their feelings and then come forward but this video being taken by he says his neighbor across the street he was in his apartment which is

20:55Claudia Oshry:on the second floor canoodling with Amanda with the blinds open yeah like in New York City like when you live across the street in apartments you can see into other people's apartment like you just can you just never know who your neighbors are so it's not interesting to you

21:05Jackie Oshry:yeah no and he had said I and the guys were like how did you not close your blinds and he was like I just felt like there was this unwritten rule in New York City that we can all see into each other's apartments but we're not going to like film each other and I actually thought the unwritten rule is that like we can all see into each other's apartments but nobody's looking like you really shouldn't be looking yeah I've never I could see a million I never look and we can all

21:24Claudia Oshry:see into each other's apartments but like don't walk by the window naked naked you know like don't do things that you wouldn't want other people to see but I guess the idea that like he would if it was any other girl he'd make out on his couch that's not a big deal if you saw your neighbor but the idea that like because he's famous he can't do certain things with the window up um I could understand how maybe he thought he was entitled to that privacy but no this is a crazy

21:47Jackie Oshry:world no and he wanted to like make that clear that was like one I think something he wanted to address him which is illegal by the way and the guys were like not believing him that he didn't know his nudes were leaked before the reunion actually started because we see him finding out in real time that his nudes were leaked and they were like there's no way you didn't know because why did you say am I soft like why would you assume that you're soft yeah and he was like they showed that on the reunion so he hasn't even seen he hasn't seen the season he hasn't seen the

22:13Claudia Oshry:reunion he also like expresses that every single thing that they've done up until this point like he regrets immensely like how they handle he regrets the lying he regrets the statement he regrets the month that they spent just acting like life could be normal for them which I understand what he was trying to do it's like we are going through something completely abnormal you know the name on everybody's lips we're the punchline of every joke we're so hated like we're not just gonna like sit in our apartments and like cry let's try and have a normal life let's block out everything everyone's saying and let's try and live our lives because we're human beings we deserve to live yeah so I understand the sentiment behind that but there is a better way to do it and so already he regrets literally everything up until yesterday and now he does this video and he's gonna regret this video too because it's not going how he wanted it to go

23:02Jackie Oshry:it's giving like demi lovato when she kept making documentaries being like no this is my truth i was lying last time i don't know i also don't really care anymore i just feel like he came off at least to me so unlikable not genuine not like nothing he didn't seem like he changed at all if i'm a man and i'm watching that and it's like all these guys are talking about me in like a really derogatory way and like you're just like broing it up it was like locker room talk i and that wouldn't bother her she's like you know she's like a guy i am now at my peak of disliking west like they did very very briefly address the grandmother at the very end of part one and then part two they didn't even address it they were like and then the night before you find out about your grandma oh no no he's like but when and then your grandmother passed away like how did you when did you find out he was like that day and it was funny because the night before i went to bed thinking to myself okay like the worst day of my life like probably just happened like it's all up from here and then he found out about his grandmother the next day and then that was over and the the guy sitting next to him was like I'm really sorry about that like that's that's some real stuff and he was like thank you and then they moved on yeah I don't know what would be the right

24:09Claudia Oshry:format for Wes because I think he's kind of like irredeemable just like as a person just his value system and like how he sees and moves in the world he's a bad guy yeah but certainly like these like snackable bites of content like and you know him just like giving oh yeah that was chill like just giving like five word responses isn't good I would almost want to say like something like long form where maybe we could like get to know him and understand like even when he touched on the fact that like his dad his anger issues as a child have like led him to be like to sort of just become very neutral in moments that was I'm sorry that was like a very performative like therapy it was you And I don't understand what he was, I don't understand.

24:52Claudia Oshry:And right, objection relevance. Yeah, but like if, I don't know, we just got to know him more. Like maybe, why are you incapable of having a girlfriend? Why have you treated people this way? Like I don't know that I would sit down for the long form interview, but if there's any chance that like in his soul there's a human being there, like we need to get it out of him. And it's not going to happen in like jokey sort of content like this. I think he just like wants to go back to the way that things were.

25:19Jackie Oshry:And it was very intentional going to like a show that's not associated with Bravo. It's not like a girly show. It's like a dude show. It's like an intentional move. But I love that the comments were not buying it.

25:30Claudia Oshry:Yeah. And it's like you gave more to the show than you gave to the reunion. Oh, he already regrets how they behaved at the reunion. Taking all that medication. Everything was undone. Everything that they have done up until one minute ago, he now concedes was the wrong thing to do and the wrong way to go about it. Like that statement was so crazy. I remember when it dropped and I still didn't believe it because it didn't say anything. It could have literally been a statement about to be a new flavor of Buffalo Wild Wings. Like it couldn't. Right. It didn't have anybody's names. It didn't have their own names.

25:59Claudia Oshry:Right. It didn't say anything. It was such a piece of garbage. And like the fact. And what he basically said is like their publicist wrote it. He didn't write it. Amanda didn't write it. He didn't say chat GPT. I'm sure they put it in chat. I don't believe that a publicist wrote it. I think a publicist. Who else do you think wrote it? Or a manager? I think they did.

26:17Jackie Oshry:He said, I mean, I know we can't believe him because he's a liar. Everything is a liar. I'm sorry. The whole time it was just them, like, so insular. This thing between them. I literally doubt they hired anyone. I'm serious. Because you know what? Hiring a professional, like, would be a good decision. And they have not made good decisions at once. This interview was enraging. Like, genuinely enraging. Him sitting there in his chunky cable knit sweater.

26:39Claudia Oshry:I can't engage with the content because I'm someone who, like, believes people when they say something. like and so if if you're just always telling lies like this is irrelevant to me like even I believe him that nothing happened with Jen Fessler right like I believe him when he said that but then it's like when he said that's my friend and it's like oh but that's what you said about Amanda on Watch What Happens Live that's my that's that's a friend I believe Jen Fessler more than I believe West

27:05Jackie Oshry:yeah the whole time it was just giving like you deserve prison but you like he is such I've said this before and i'm sorry for repeating myself he's a bad person he's a bad guy and i don't say that lightly because i believe like at the end of the day most people are good and i think some people are misunderstood and some people like try to be good and end up being bad i think west wilson is like an actually bad person yeah yeah i i just i don't know i can't deal with the lies

27:39Claudia Oshry:and he said that and he recognizes that he has no credibility because he's like he said it at the reunion too though and then now we know he was lying at the reunion no what did he lie about at the reunion the timeline he didn't say anything he didn't say anything at the reunion order to lie

27:52Jackie Oshry:he admitted during this video series that he lied about something in the reunion he's just irredeemable so stop trying to redeem yourself like go get a job and offline and also

28:03Claudia Oshry:i never want to see you again if you ever want like you need a break they haven't taken a break and it's like not that i need you to like go away into the dark and climb into a cave but like to just sort of like stay yeah and i guess they try to do that they go to italy and people take their picture and whatnot yeah like he still does this like they just need to like ground themselves

28:24Jackie Oshry:honestly the way he was talking it like did it make it seem like they were still a couple because seriously who would talk about their partner like that and who would like be in a room where your

28:30Claudia Oshry:partner is being spoken about like that yeah no i think there's still a couple yeah because like yeah as soon as they're not you know she's gonna go on her apology tour and she probably will then do call her daddy that was also an interesting part of the aftermath yeah but they have said

28:47Jackie Oshry:that it wasn't call her daddy what was it i don't know nobody knows people were trying to figure it out on um vial files i downloaded threads vial files they were talking about i think vial files was thrown out there they said no it was kind of like it was giving what fucking podcast is this

29:01Claudia Oshry:okay well it's that would be like you know when tom sandoval went on howie howie mandel somebody i was actually thinking that it might have been howie mandel literally yeah okay well then i'm super glad she didn't do it if it was gonna be like something random not even a good one not one of like the go-tos to talk about reality tv drama correct okay honestly like she should go on jay shetty but she shouldn't because no because she doesn't she doesn't have what it takes

29:32Jackie Oshry:well you like the depth but jay shetty is also like you're supposed to go on when like you are healed yeah like she's a mess yeah she's a mess like jay shetty can't help her right now

29:43Claudia Oshry:sweetie even jay shetty can't help you um are you ready for our next story yeah we have a lot of tv news today first up lausa has fired alana oh my god alana's gone it took them a while

29:58Jackie Oshry:alana is gone they needed her for a plot device in the second she served her purpose which i'm sure we'll find out in like two or three days um they probably let her go because the hype has sort of died down so if you're not going to do it when people are actually no one's talking about it anymore like we're talking about other things no I think that if people started to see her again I

30:16Claudia Oshry:think everybody like expected that she would be gone she wasn't in the episode and then if she became like a character again they would have resurfaced it um but so like Lausa star Alana Kaiser has reportedly been fired from the show after she was caught appearing to use a racial slur in a resurfaced video um producers edited alana out as much as possible from episodes that were pre-taped before the resurfaced racial video racial slur video was exposed she couldn't be removed completely but her scenes were significantly trimmed down in two days episode gone she was gone yeah and it's very good for zach because if he was like stepping out on kata and like being dishonest and you know we'll never know gone it's like like the villain it's like the villain of Taylor Frankie Paul season yeah they say Taylor Frankie Paul season I know that was actually I

31:02Jackie Oshry:shouldn't have spoiled it so back to Alana they had to once you do it once you have to do it to everyone so yeah of course I think we should all get comfortable like with this being a thing

31:14Claudia Oshry:forever yeah I was like not even don't get too attached to your favorite islanders I could be I was not even questioning whether or not like she was going bye yeah so it's like just a crazy thing.

31:28Jackie Oshry:It's just, it's like a, at this point, it is a rite of passage for every season of Love Island. Someone is going home.

31:36Claudia Oshry:No, but this is like Visanna also. This isn't the first of the season. Who? She was part of, we never even saw her. OG villagers. I wonder who got her spot. It's giving Anaya.

31:49Jackie Oshry:You think so? Anaya is like such a random person. To be an OG. To be an OG. Yeah. yeah um well this at least we never even got to know her like it was actually very disruptive when they sent sierra home she was like the hbic of the girls she was in the most progressed couple she was the first one to close off gone in the night oh my god that was insane yeah that was

32:19Claudia Oshry:insane yeah well our next story taylor frankie paul's bachelorette season um is preparing to air so there's an excellent chance that taylor frankie paul's season of the bachelorette will air on abc next month tmz has learned production sources tell tmz the current discussion behind the scenes is for the season to premiere in mid-july though final plans are not locked yet sources say when abc pulled the season from its schedule editors working on the series never stopped cutting the episodes a sign that the network was keeping the door open for a future premiere okay okay I just feel like it actually really speaks to not that I I don't want Taylor

33:01Jackie Oshry:Frankie Paul to be canceled like I want her I really want her to be okay but it's like these networks are so unserious and they're so it's kind of like Bravo firing Chris and Doty and then just because people wanted them to and then putting her back on the valley. Like, it's just performative. Nobody actually cares about any of these people. It's like, okay, I don't even care.

33:21Claudia Oshry:I don't know why I get involved. Like, okay, you're gonna do what you're gonna do. I think when the video came out, and again, like we know that production knew about the video. It's public record. Everybody knew that this happened and people close to her knew the degree to which it happened because even the girls you watch season one, they're talking about it. They're talking about throwing bar stools. We didn't know what was going on at the time, but people knew, know people who run back sharing checks on her new her at producers new um so I think the video coming out like it made it too hot for them to air her season that at that moment that fucking night but like it didn't change the fact that they casted her and they casted her knowing all of this and so I actually think like I I want to see her season and I think that you know we just needed some time like it doesn't make it okay it doesn't make it better but like that was obviously a very very dark and low point in her life she we all know who won though now i know but like

34:20Jackie Oshry:yeah the thing is she was spotted with him like in the midst of this scandal once they like comment on each other's stuff like they it does give like a viewer potential hope that it does work out yeah but then she had to have picked up cameras again the roommate said she like came home and up with Dakota like after her season if this fucking bitch is still messing with this guy this evil monster another another person who's an actual bad person yeah worse Dakota Losertson that is that is irredeemable I will after I will actually be speechless yeah but it's also like

35:05Claudia Oshry:weird to think about how last episode of slamu she's going to bachelorette still on the phone with dakota and like so if we watch her season like we're watching that day where she's like still this like broken person shell hung up on dakota like she would need to be the bachelorette like in a year from now you know like so i don't know but i think the season must be good if they're if they're holding on to it you know if it were bad and she was her heart wasn't in it they kind of might have been like you know what it's good that we that we don't have to air it so i don't know i just i'm like rooting for her i know she makes it hard she makes it hard to

35:42Jackie Oshry:at every turn at every turn almost always making the wrong decision oh yeah no it's it's really

35:48Claudia Oshry:hard i can't imagine being her friend i don't think i could be her friend no um but i don't I just like want her to like pick herself up and like she has so much like available to her like so many opportunities people really love her people like really just like see themselves in her and they see yeah there's something about her that's just people can't quit but I think also you know I don't know she's just like so vulnerable and I just I want her to get it together and I think I think her season airing will help her get it together because it's I agree more to go and depress and yeah and like more upper like she can come back into the public sphere a little bit and that's why i kind of want her season to air so that her story didn't end like that because dakota fucking leaked that video of something that like everybody knew that had happened and like

36:34Jackie Oshry:chose to hire her still speaking of salama jesse uh draper is on vacation and like pretty much fully in a relationship with marciano like at first they were doing not blonde at first they were doing like kitschy like instagram stuff people thought it was like a joke or just like

36:51Claudia Oshry:whatever but they're like fully in a relationship yeah and like Michaela Matthews is like clowning on her and Jessie's somebody has to well like but what if Marciano is the no I'm sorry love he ain't but she seems so happy person who like blackmail do I know that part is bad really bad said like that you had sex when you didn't he tried to smear your name tried to ruin your life okay and also like them seeming so happy like I take it back like in a one minute like video anyone can seem happy about anything and like she also seemed like happy when

37:26Jackie Oshry:she was with jordan you know right but they're like right but they're on vacation they went last night to stassi's like birthday dinner as a couple with her parents right yeah it was a family

37:36Claudia Oshry:vacation yeah it's fucking crazy and the parents seem to like him because they're making content with him another bad decision maker i know but like okay but what if like what if they're otp What if like their person, like what if they just like are in love? We'll have to wait. Then I can't say anything. Talk to me in 10 years. Okay. And like he's profusely apologized. Like for what? You know what I mean? Like what if? Has he? What if all the boxes are checked? Has he? I don't know. But what if?

38:02Jackie Oshry:I mean, everyone can come back from,

38:04Claudia Oshry:like sure, sure. Like what if this is it for Jesse?

38:09Jackie Oshry:It's not. It's not going to be Marciano Burnett. It's not. I think it actually has to be Marciano Burnett. I don't know a lot, but I know that it's not going to be Marstown or Brunette.

38:17Claudia Oshry:I know. I'm just like, I'm not right for this world because I just assume like the best intentions of people. You do. I assume that everyone's telling the truth. I assume that like, you know, if two people like this are together, then like everything was a misunderstanding and like just for TV and they've worked it out. Of course. And I just like, it's really hard to commentate on things where it's like we literally have 5 % of the information. Speaking of whatever, have you listened to Olivia Rodrigo's new album at all? I tried yesterday, but like I was driving a different car and I couldn't drive a new car and listen to new music.

38:51Claudia Oshry:I'm sorry. I didn't mean to bring up like trauma. No, but you know what I mean? Like I was trying to figure out where the - Like the system is not your usual system. Where the windshield wipers were. I can't also be trying to process a new song. Like I had to put on 1989 Taylor's version actually. Yeah, of course.

39:03Jackie Oshry:No, you need your comfort music. That's like listening to new music. And this is what I did when I walked to him from the studio. That's when I listened to it. Just like a mindless walk.

39:10Claudia Oshry:There's a time and a place, and it's not when you're driving a huge car that you've never driven before.

39:15Jackie Oshry:I have to tell you, I'm very hard on Olivia Rodrigo, and I just want to say I stand by that. I think that we have conversations worth having. This album is amazing. I saw Liz Wood saying that.

39:28Claudia Oshry:That's why I gave it a chance, but I have to give it a chance in a more controlled environment.

39:32Jackie Oshry:It is so good. And everyone's music sounds the same. And some of it's good, some of it's not. But this just also sounds different. it sounds like almost music that sounds like real music and it's really it's exceptional like it's it's a masterpiece people are saying album of the year album of the year i just want to say i don't think it's gonna be album of the year i think noah khan is gonna be album of the year which is also like going platinum in my home do you know that song about his mama no i don't think so

39:59Claudia Oshry:i'm an astronaut oh my god i can't stop i see it in reels i see it in orbit i sing for you yeah it's so good. I see it in reels and like if you want to make an emotional reel use that song.

40:12Jackie Oshry:100 % I actually made an emotional reel and didn't post it because it was like so emotional and then people found out that the song is about his mom because you can make it about anything but he writes a song about his mom which is like I'm an astronaut, you're the moon sorry, sorry, sorry. Okay I'll continue. So I think that's going to be the album of the year. Sorry, sorry. I didn't mean that. I'm sorry. I also like that song. I'm with my best friend Dan now. Camping on the county line. I'm scared to ask this question yeah but what's with the san juan song oh i'm i thought you'd never ask so it was just a tiktok made by this guy who goes are you okay do you want to take a break oh hold on okay getting a little choked up you have a tissue that's just like really sweet

41:04Claudia Oshry:it is it's so sweet let's end the show okay i can't we have two more ads

41:14Jackie Oshry:um the san juan song so this guy made a tiktok and there's this app have you heard of it yeah sorry bitch like these jeans aren't gonna pay for themselves there's this app called suno or something so new it's an ai app that can like make songs for you you can either tell it like lyrics and they'll create ben created a song on it like about the nicks like i've had my whole life i've been waiting for this and this guy went to san juan like made a tiktok and he had this app make him a song i think he wrote the lyrics and asked them to like yeah generate a song from it and the song in its entirety is hilarious about how we went to san juan he didn't want to do just tourist stuff so i took the bus to caguas immediately was enchanted the whole plane clapped when we landed it is so catchy yeah the lyrics are hysterical the guy's like of course gone viral he's on the today show it is just a good song and so people just started using it a lot it's gone viral it's actually like i feel like things haven't gone viral like that in a really long time it's just like corny ass like ellen type shit you know yeah yeah and it's just the way like people used to make like music video the youtube videos yes yes

42:26Claudia Oshry:yes yes it's like very a choogy millennial that's so funny okay cute so like we could make a song on so new we should let's make another theme song we just have to write lyrics oh we should make a closing song where it's like about like you know listen non-pod stitcher cast box public radio beautiful i don't know if you've seen this have you seen that like ai companies are doing like a lot of influencer marketing and it's become like a lot like um it's kind of become like a big deal

42:56Jackie Oshry:because like so many influencers are like performative talking about how ai is like you know ruining the government or the environment or whatever it does and then they're over here like

43:03Claudia Oshry:doing like chat ads i've only seen like billy eilish oh yeah well i just want to say we love

43:11Jackie Oshry:ai and so you can pay us and people won't find like videos of us complaining like no people have like yeah you're never gonna go back and find old videos of us saying ai is bad we love i was using

43:20Claudia Oshry:it this morning right before we started so i just want to say i am available oh my god i went to get my eyebrows waxed yesterday and she asked me if i'm on like any creams or anything so i was like actually i have my new red my rosacea my my redness cream so we had to like look i was like i showed her you know the ingredients i'm like i think it's fine it's not it's pretty mild it's not like anything crazy and she was like okay i'll put it in chat gpt i was like no allow me i love i've got the premium subscription no and like my chat really knows me you know and they like so if I say check can I use this like to get an eyebrow wax and it was fine and and it was fine look look at these brows so good I'm getting mine done tomorrow oh I actually so the last time I got an eyebrow wax was with this lady and the last I can't even tell you how long it was I can't even tell you oh no no it was Claudia like if I tell you it's embarrassing how long no it's not like

44:11Jackie Oshry:some people like brows are like a necessary beauty appointment the same way you get your hair x times a year the same way you get a manicure once a week brows i am one of those people i try not to let like one or two months go by without getting my brows done i have an amazing woman who comes to my house shout out mercedes like i i it's very important to me but then there are people who it's like it's not an essential part of their beauty routine it's like yeah i'll do it or my

44:34Claudia Oshry:eyebrows like grow out and then they sort of stop it doesn't like and also because it's blonde like My unibrow is like peach fuzz. But just to say, last time I saw her, I had two children and I wasn't even pregnant yet. Oh, wow.

44:47Jackie Oshry:Do you like pluck them on your own? No.

44:51Claudia Oshry:Oh, speaking of my tweezers. But it's like you only see what I draw in, you know?

44:54Jackie Oshry:Of course. Speaking of my tweezers, I want to share like a very huge thing that happened in my house yesterday. My husband has had this blackhead right in his ear. Like if I'm sitting next to him on his side and I'm looking at him, I could see the blackhead. And it is so big. Like one or two times I tried to pop it with my hands and he was like, get off of me. Then yesterday, Ben had like a very long ear hair. So much of it was like pulling out of his ear like seriously like a hobbit. And he was like, can you pluck this for me? I was like, can I pluck this? Of course. I went and got my tweezers.

45:25Jackie Oshry:Then I was in his ear already with my tweezers. I said, give me one shot. I've never gone at it with my tools, you know, just my hands. And it's in a tough spot. I used my tweezer. It came out almost instantly. it should have been on like a Dr. Pimple Popper TikTok it was the biggest most gratifying moment of my life thus far I'm gonna throw up oh okay cool like just girls if you know you know like I couldn't even look at my husband anymore like this big fucking thing in his ear oh my god it was so amazing it was like the head was very black and I got the sack too like it was just incredible not the sack yeah let's get into our next story actually something i'm excited to talk about is it what you're excited to talk about that's brought to you by tucker nook a brand new sponsor but not

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49:12Claudia Oshry:you're welcome our next story noah cyrus is collaborating with frankie jonas they have a new song coming out and she's opening up about connecting with her best friend Frankie Jonas. So when I saw this come across my algorithm, I was like, what in the what? Noah Cyrus, Miley's little sister, Frankie Jonas, bonus Jonas, Jonas Brothers little brother, have a song out. So I watched the video of like the teaser for the song and it was amazing.

49:40Jackie Oshry:So fun fact that unless you're chronically online, you most likely don't know because he hasn't had any like real mainstream success but franklin jonas makes music and he is an incredible singer he does a lot of like very high quality like reels promoting his music and the songs are always good but his voice is like insane i think he like tours if you're in the thing after and like he yeah he makes music

50:03Claudia Oshry:and he tours and if you're in the joe bro fandom i think like a very niche part of it is like also

50:07Jackie Oshry:a huge frankie jonas fan i don't really understand why like him being so musically inclined like why he wouldn't just be added to the Jonas Brothers and you know what I think that they actually could

50:15Claudia Oshry:use like a little bit of a refresh like a Gen Z edition why not add Frankie maybe he doesn't want

50:22Jackie Oshry:to be a part of it but that is very awkward it is like he's doing music he's really good it's not like he's bad I think in the documentary like about their reunion there was like this awkward element because at one point like Kevin was not really getting better he was getting worse at guitar he doesn't vocal do vocals so when everyone's like not performing at the same level

50:39Claudia Oshry:of course it's awkward but Frankie's like crushing I don't know why I don't know either so their new song is called high and sad it just came out she wrote I'm already tearing up thinking back on all the memories I've shared with Frankie it's funny I've always felt like no one could ever understand my exact life and experiences the way it feels to be seen as the underdog of a family but anytime I think of Franklin I knew he was somewhere understanding and sharing those same feelings and moments that only the two of us and very few people could only understand um I want to play the the snippet because like I feel like people are gonna be really surprised by what it sounds like yeah I am actually I want to like pre-save it on Spotify because I want to listen to the song it was like a new sound you know what when you said like Olivia Rodrigo is like a new sound music that doesn't sound like other music yeah this was giving new sound okay okay let's let's hear the sound I haven't heard it

51:39Claudia Oshry:Very folksy

51:46Jackie Oshry:It's a little gospel-y You know, they grew up in a church

52:01Jackie Oshry:Isn't that good? It is. Again, I beg the question, like, why he's not in the Jonas Brothers. He is a brother Jonas.

52:07Claudia Oshry:And looking at the video of Noah and Franklin, like, it looks like young Miley and young Nick. Like, it's really. That's really cute. Like, it's a throwback. It's really cute. Like I did before the storm. So anyways, that was a bit of content I enjoyed and was surprised by. And I thought my fellow millennials would enjoy it as well. A little Nepo sibling, QLab. Earned. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

52:33Jackie Oshry:But Noah Cyrus is very talented.

52:34Claudia Oshry:Historically, I'm not a fan of Noah Cyrus. Oh, why? I don't know.

52:38Jackie Oshry:I don't have like a feeling about her. Like I don't think about her ever.

52:41Claudia Oshry:I think the last time I saw what she was doing musically, I found it to be in the bucket of like dark, depressing. Billy Eilish for this in our energy sort of content and that's not my style this is not that love that yeah our fifth and final story Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip Roaring 20th trailer promise is the biggest crossover event ever with 82 cameos what was the what was the headline news from this remember we talked about it once like someone remember they're going on a

53:12Jackie Oshry:road trip yeah okay never mind maybe I'm just making some I don't know if they're going on

53:16Claudia Oshry:the road it's a girls trip they're going to six cities to celebrate the 20th anniversary of Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip and the OGs in attendance are Vicky Gumbelson Luanne DeLasseps, Portia Williams, Teresa Giudice, Kyle Richards, Giselle Bryant and Lisa Barlow. That's a pretty good lineup. I have a couple of tweaks. I've got a couple tweaks.

53:38Jackie Oshry:I don't love like the Ultimate Girls Trip genre of like spinoff it just wasn't for me I watched like the first two it's like whatever it got old quick um but doing like an anniversary special with all the women because it is always fun at like bravo con or when they do like the watch weapons live specials like when people convert this is cute and fun but i'm not like a big

53:56Claudia Oshry:ultimate girls trip fan no me neither this is more so like about like legacy and you know just like honoring the moments there's like a montage of you know all the iconic lines i think some of them like you know are reliving some of those moments and reenacting them as well um so that's fun it just makes me feel a little like old and like yeah I don't know end of an era even though

54:19Jackie Oshry:it's very much ongoing which housewives are being represented or representing New York that feels good that feels right even though you know people love to say Luann did have one season where she was demoted to friend of so she's not the longest but I don't think the network could

54:31Claudia Oshry:handle Ramona oh no no Vicky Gunvalson is representing Orange County absolutely Portia

54:38Jackie Oshry:Williams is representing Atlanta so I am the biggest Portia Williams fan I love her like I did you see she's actually going viral because she was on Z-Way and and like for the first time ever she like beat Z-Way I'm not like entirely sure what the premise of the Z-Way show is but it's like you're just supposed to like make the other one more uncomfortable it's like I think it's like Caleb Presley vibes yeah um and she's it's the first time I've ever seen anyone like get Z-Way back better yeah are you ashamed of being thin are you ashamed of being slim she's such a queen Oh yeah, Cornbread. I love her.

55:08Jackie Oshry:The thing is, she's like a relatively late addition to the show. There are a lot of like OG, Nene, Sheree. It should have been Nene. I know Nene has a complicated relationship with the network, so I could say like maybe that's not why.

55:20Claudia Oshry:Or it could have been Kim, but yeah, I feel like of everybody who's like. No, Sheree. Like there's a lot. In good graces.

55:27Jackie Oshry:But I guess she is still actively on the show and filming, and I don't know. So is Vicky. So maybe they're trying to get people who are still like active on their franchises in some capacity.

55:38Claudia Oshry:I saw someone tweet. I can't remember. Like it was just a viral tweet that sincere from Love Island has the same vocal inflection and mannerisms as Sheree Whitfield. Well, OK, now I need to see it. Just watch out for it. Just watch out for it. She by Sheree. Joggers. Teresa Giudice, New Jersey, of course. Of course. Kyle Richards, Beverly Hills, of course.

56:02Jackie Oshry:Giselle Bryant Potomac that feels right I mean she's literally in jail like so I don't know if she was available when this was filming I think she actually was imprisoned okay so that's the only reason because it should be Karen she's my queen of Potomac and Lisa Giselle I'm sorry Giselle represents her franchise and like her city really well and I think whenever they have to tap someone for Potomac she's almost like always the go-to yeah no and she does it well you know what I mean

56:28Claudia Oshry:like yeah she's not really a wild card and and she like at the nbc up front last week they or

56:33Jackie Oshry:like last month they had someone from every city and it was giselle like she's always the ambassador

56:36Claudia Oshry:yeah no and she's a good one and she like you know knows how to represent the the franchise lisa barlow for salt lake city very interesting yeah i mean i don't know who else it could have

56:48Jackie Oshry:been i'm maybe heather gay heather gay i'm sure she's shocked because the network like loves her She has her own show on Peacock about Mormonism.

56:57Claudia Oshry:Her daughter is getting her show on Campus Confidential is a new show. I don't know if it's on Hulu, but it's like her daughter taking us behind the scenes of her university.

57:07Jackie Oshry:Oh, yeah. She's kind of a darling of, but I don't think the fans like her. That's the thing. She was like a fan favorite. And then people turned on her. People just love, love, love Lisa Barlow.

57:16Claudia Oshry:Yeah, like I would say Lisa and Heather are both like at the same tier of doing like iconic stuff. You know, songs, books, this, like. Receipts, proof. Timeline. But I'm sure that Heather is shocked that it's not her.

57:27Jackie Oshry:Yeah.

57:28Claudia Oshry:And then they're going to stop in like six cities. There's 82 cameos. And that's what's happening. August 9th. I would watch out. I would watch out. Yeah, we'll be together. So maybe we'll watch together. Maybe we won't.

57:42Jackie Oshry:Let's dive into our final segment of the day, which is Dear Toasters, long awaited. So every Tuesday, sometimes Thursdays. Thursdays for the foreseeable future while Love Island is on. We like to do an advice segment where we just try to help out members of our community. You can write to us via email, deartosters at gmail.com, or head on over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. You can scroll down to the submission box that says, Dear Toasters, if you need advice from us or anything going on in your life, we're going to try and help you. And it's, you know, it might not be the advice that you want to hear, but it's the advice that you need to hear.

58:10Jackie Oshry:Are you ready? Hey, Jackson Claude. I love the podcast. I listen every day to stay abreast on what I need to know. So for context, I'm a sixth grade teacher. That's kids that are 11 going on 12. I'm currently teaching summer school and during a break one day I heard one of my students talking about how Melanie and Sincere are the best couple and Casey should leave Anaya. I interjected and asked if he was watching Love Island and he said yes. I was shocked. I can't believe he thinks Melanie and Sincere are the best couple. I was shocked and asked who he was watching with to which he responded that he watches by himself.

58:38Jackie Oshry:Now Love Island is obviously not age appropriate. I feel so icky that he's watching all this orgy filled content. I'm not sure if I should call home to let his mom know that he's watching or if that would be overstepping. should I just let it go because there's so much crazy stuff kids are watching these days and I shouldn't get involved please advice and thanks for the giggles oh I would just like wonder how

58:53Claudia Oshry:often you interface with his parents like I don't know that this needs to be a phone call home but like do they pick him up do they drop him off like you could just give an aside and just be like hey I you know is it a boy or girl I don't know he was watching I he was talking about the show that he's watching like I've seen some stuff and I think it's inappropriate but I so I just wanted to flag it for you but you also like don't want to tell people like how to parent and so i don't

59:17Jackie Oshry:know what like the policy is as a teacher like when you do interject or say something because i think a lot of times it is overstepping and the parents don't react well um but in terms of you

59:26Claudia Oshry:like i would just clear unconscious like yeah say something like yeah and like as a parent i would want to know of course so i think that's the right thing to do and you know the parent might think he's just oh watching the show love island is on peacock it's summer it's fun right and they have no idea because they don't advertise that it's a pornography correct you would never know like

59:46Jackie Oshry:the depths of depravity that go on in that show unless you watch a whole episode it's by the way 11 year old watching love island is crazy work yeah really crazy i'm sorry i think step in like that's the job as a teacher yeah and if your biggest crime is that you like overstepped and made like a mom feel bad or whatever like okay well at least she knows now and just like you know

1:00:05Claudia Oshry:say it as if she doesn't know what's on the show like not like scolding her you let your child

1:00:09Jackie Oshry:watches but it's like no right being like he's i think he's watching a show that's not appropriate for his age if you just wanted to um check that out i also think like teachers have like their own um methods i think there are probably like teachers whose like philosophy is to get involved and say something who totally stay out of it but i'm sorry like if if you know this you have to say

1:00:29Claudia Oshry:summer school is also different because that's not like your teacher right it's not like your home girl who you've known forever you know you're building a relationship 10 months yeah so you know

1:00:38Jackie Oshry:what it's home it's summer school it's fleeting you never see these people again tell her tell her sorry 11 is nutty okay hey jackson claude i need my two swirlies to tell me if i'm being psycho postpartum or if my feelings are actually valid my husband and i scratched my husband and i had a baby about three months ago this past sunday was my husband's first father's day while sitting at the father's day lunch with his family he got a text from a work colleague a female work colleague who is not married and has no children herself i looked over in enough time to read most of the message. Happy Father's Day.

1:01:07Jackie Oshry:My baby's name. She don't want to say it. Blank is so incredibly lucky to have you as a daddy. Hope you're spoiled today because you deserve it. See you Monday. He quickly put the phone back in his pocket and did not respond. Today he came home from work with a gift bag and said it was a Father's Day gift. I asked if it was from said woman and he said, and I quote, yeah, sort of, but like from all the staff, I think. Inside the bag was a watch and two baseball tickets. I think this is extremely inappropriate and my mind has been reeling ever since is this normal behavior is a sign of first-time mama who doesn't know first parent

1:01:37Claudia Oshry:holiday etiquette no that's not normal the gift is not normal i watch no i think the text is even crazier baby is so lucky to have you send texts that are like very you know some people like wake up on father's day and like text all the fathers in their phone you know what i mean oh my god you

1:01:56Jackie Oshry:know what's so funny we were just talking about this at mahjong about how like when you marry into a family like some people's families just have different practices that like seem so far into you and something that Ben's family does which is actually really sweet but when first happened I thought it was so weird like the way you would text like your friends for your birthday they also like text always me maybe even write a card for other people's anniversaries yeah some

1:02:14Claudia Oshry:people just like you know they're up on their text messages and so absolutely maybe this person like sent that text message to every father that she knows so I don't think the text is so crazy because

1:02:24Jackie Oshry:texts are like kind of meaningless I don't know father yeah you do that to everyone's mother but Like, I'm sorry, Father's Day and Mother's Day are not equal.

1:02:31Claudia Oshry:Oh, I don't think she's differentiating. I think she's like, you know, how do I, you know, like, and I think it's also.

1:02:36Jackie Oshry:And I'm sorry, like, single women, you have to be measured in your communications with married men. Same with single men and married women. Like, I feel like if you're, let's say there's nothing going on here and you're just sending that text. You're a crazy person.

1:02:51Claudia Oshry:No, but like, if you just sent that text, if she just sent the text, like, okay. I think some people, like, just. I think it's inappropriate. some people do stuff like that but you have to understand some people do stuff like that and i think also it's like a way for them to like you know center themselves like hey like look at me like i remembered you know and the gift is what's crazy to me because that's not just like hey i'm trying to send texts to everyone who's a father no i watch in two baseball tickets what is this

1:03:15Jackie Oshry:a ten thousand dollar gift like what kind of watch that's insane that's insane you need more yeah no this i know and i would be curious like how your husband is responding is he making you feel suspicious of him is this a crazy person or are these two people crazy together you know yeah no and this is not your postpartum hormones like there's definitely something weird going on

1:03:33Claudia Oshry:I'm just not sure what it is yeah no and if I saw that text I would be like annoyed miffed I'd keep an eye of course but I would ultimately let the text go because like listen you can't get crazy over everything but no you can't but it's weird yeah the weird but whatever the gift is insane

1:03:55Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I also just want to say, because me and Ben have had this argument before, I think that single women texting married men is inappropriate. Unless it's like, you know, my delivery driver and your order is here.

1:04:06Claudia Oshry:Yeah, I would agree. I can't think of it. I guess outside of work stuff, I don't know why I would be texting a single or a married man outside of a work thing. But I guess she considers this a work thing.

1:04:18Jackie Oshry:No, and I know this is like, I'm going to sound crazy, but anytime I need to talk to one of Ben's friends, I always put it in a chat with me, Ben, and him, or even the wife. yeah yeah like what do I be doing texting a man communicating with a man alone it's weird so inappropriate it is like whenever I have to wish someone a happy birthday like perfect example just happened like with my friend Nikki I literally put in a chat me bed Nikki and her husband like

1:04:38Claudia Oshry:yeah do you know what I mean yeah well when you're operating in couples yeah it's best to stay in the

1:04:42Jackie Oshry:chat yeah I just think like one-on-one communication between like two opposite gender I think it's weird sorry that's my toxic trait you need a visibility you need chaperones uh you need visibility. Yes. Next up, our third and final. Hi, Swirlies. I love you both. I need advice. I'm getting married. My fiance and his family are Jewish. I am not. Important to note that they are not practicing, meaning they don't go to temple, but they celebrate all the holidays. I'm not converting, but I absolutely would if my fiance asked me to. For our wedding, my future mother-in-law is telling me that she gets a crowning ceremony at our reception because it's a Jewish tradition.

1:05:13Jackie Oshry:I love the Jewish culture. We are doing a lot of Jewish traditions at our wedding, but the crowning ceremony I'm unsure of. Essentially, my mother-in-law gets crowned at my reception. My Jewish friends have never heard of this and I don't want to come across as difficult but it feels like my hands are tied if I say no it seems like I'm against this Jewish tradition if I say yes but she hasn't even asked me yet but just told me it's happening she gets a whole dedication at my reception my question is is this an actual Jewish tradition at weddings or does she want attention I've never heard of that have you oh yeah it's called a mazinkle or mazinky or whatever what is it and I feel like it's being explained to you in a bad way like your mother-in-law's not getting a crowning ceremony basically when parents have married off at a wedding their final child there's this cute little ceremony where all the kids put the parents like on chairs on the dance floor and their kids like dance around them and just like celebrate the fact that like all their children are now married and sort of their job as parents is done I've been to a bunch of weddings where they do it it's very sweet that's cute it's very cute like it I swear to god it is not a crowning ceremony for your mother-in-law that's an insane she doesn't get a crown and it's for both parents mind you like it's literally someone's explaining it to you so weird because it's actually really sweet I've seen it at a bunch of weddings it's just a cute moment like while people are eating um you can say a few words or not it's just like a silly almost like a skit like it's cute you can obviously say no but I do think it's like a it's one of my I actually would like I think it's one of like a very one of our most beautiful traditions and it really highlights

1:06:39Claudia Oshry:like the importance of parents I think this is perfect because you could be like I looked into the mazinkle I think it's such like a cute idea so I need to get the right pronunciation so then you tell her how it's gonna go when and where and how it's gonna happen if you're okay with it but it sounds like you're you're open to a lot of things and I don't see why you would be like not want to do it but if you don't want to do it you don't have to do it but like yeah I just want to say it's more it's more cultural that it's not like an age-old you know in the scribes like so

1:07:11Jackie Oshry:you're not it's not a part of our religion that you have to do it there are a couple of things at a Jewish wedding you have to do. Like Sheva Brachas. This is not something you have to do in observance with the law. It's a sweet like tradition that's been passed down. Like they used to do this, I think in like the shtetls where it's like, it's such a relief when all your parents, especially parents of daughters, get all their children married off that you just celebrate the parents. It's like a little moment. It's not meant to be like a crown. That's insane.

1:07:35Claudia Oshry:So like, so you should say, I've looked into the tradition. It's like so beautiful. Like, so this is when we're going to do it. This is how it's going to go. and you run the show and it also shows that like you've studied up and that like you do care and that is a real sign of respect yeah that is assuming that you're fine with doing it which i think you will be once you hear what it is and i know this is not what you wrote in about but if

1:07:57Jackie Oshry:you are open and curious about converting to judaism i just want to let you know you have my support we would love to have you you you you might relate to even more of this podcast which is like a great reason to do it and just i don't know if you were looking for a sign but we would

1:08:10Claudia Oshry:love to have you and you're more than welcome yeah agree um that's our show you guys jacks is headed

1:08:15Jackie Oshry:to dallas so tomorrow she'll be tuned in from gilis which is a little southern girl it's fun always fun to switch it up we will see you then thank you so much for listening to the toaster morning show where we deliver the fast five stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube so you're watching us on YouTube please feel free to subscribe and give us video thumbs up we're also available as podcasting where your podcast we found such as Spotify iTunes Twitter public video right cast books all the places with us to podcast my notes to Z5's review about how beautiful, stunning, and wickedly talented we are.

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