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The Toast Podcast Episode Notes: All Roads Lead to the Road - January 15, 2026
Hosts
- Jackie Oshry (@JackieOshry)
- Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob)
Episode Summary In this episode of *The Toast*, Jackie and Claudia discuss a variety of pop culture topics, including nominations for the 2026 iHeartRadio Podcast Awards, Pete Davidson's new video podcast, Nene Leakes' return to Bravo, a legal issue involving Hailey Bieber, and Kiefer Sutherland's recent arrest. The hosts share personal anecdotes and engage in light-hearted banter, blending humor with commentary on the entertainment industry.
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Key Topics Discussed
- 2026 iHeartRadio Podcast Nominees Revealed (19:17)
- The hosts express excitement about being nominated for Best Comedy Podcast.
- Notable nominees include Good Hang with Amy Poehler and Distractable.
- Discussion on potential competition and the significance of fan votes.
- Jackie and Claudia express their feelings about recognition and the importance of support from the audience.
- Pete Davidson Launches The Pete Davidson Show (30:32)
- Davidson's new weekly video podcast filmed in his garage, set to stream on Netflix, launches January 30.
- Discussion on the implications of Netflix producing a podcast and the unionization issues involved in the production of such content.
- Exploration of Davidson's celebrity status relative to his body of work and what this means for his podcast's potential success.
- Nene Leakes Sets Bravo Return (38:28)
- Nene Leakes returns to Bravo in *Real Housewives: Ultimate Road Trip*.
- The hosts reflect on her legacy as an iconic figure in the housewives franchise.
- Skepticism about the potential drama and entertainment value of the series, with a focus on nostalgia versus new content.
- Hailey Bieber Sends Cease & Desist to TikToker (46:08)
- Legal action taken against a TikToker who made allegations about Justin and Hailey Bieber's marriage.
- Jackie and Claudia discuss the ethics of public commentary, especially from professionals like psychologists.
- Reflection on the responsibilities of influencers and the potential consequences of their statements.
- Kiefer Sutherland Arrested (50:28)
- Sutherland's arrest for allegedly assaulting his ride-share driver.
- Commentary on celebrity behavior, accountability, and the absurdity of the situation.
- Discussion about the societal expectations of public figures, particularly in how they treat service workers.
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Key Takeaways
- Recognition in Podcasting: Jackie and Claudia's candid thoughts reveal their desire for acknowledgment in the podcasting space, balancing humor with aspirations for success.
- Podcasting Trends: The conversation around Pete Davidson's podcast highlights the evolving landscape of media, particularly the intersection of digital content and traditional broadcasting methods.
- Celebrity Accountability: The discussions about Hailey Bieber and Kiefer Sutherland stress the importance of responsible commentary and behavior among public figures.
- Nostalgia vs. Innovation: Nene Leakes' return brings forth a dialogue on whether nostalgic programming can deliver fresh entertainment or simply recycle past glories.
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Conclusion The episode encapsulates *The Toast's* unique blend of humor, personal anecdotes, and insightful commentary on pop culture and the entertainment industry, making for an engaging listen that resonates with its audience.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODriving Adventures and Anecdotes
0:45 to 3:14
Discussion about driving experiences and a recent mishap.
“I try not to wear sunglasses when it's not super sunny because I don't want my eyes to like not be able to handle any sort of light.”
Parental Responsibility and Dog Love
3:14 to 4:44
Reflections on the responsibilities that come with having pets and children.
“I don't know why I feel physically unable.”
Watching TV Shows Together
4:44 to 6:12
Challenges of watching shows with a partner and preferences in content.
“And she literally doesn't have a TV show.”
Martha Stewart's Influence
6:12 to 7:56
Analysis of Martha Stewart's cooking style and her absence of a TV show.
“And I feel like maybe that's why her empire is kind of without its own TV show.”
The Evolution of Dog Ownership
7:56 to 10:46
Personal stories about the changes in priorities with dog ownership over time.
“Oh, and BarkBox was the gift that kept on giving.”
Comparing Dogs: Bruno and Theo
10:46 to 13:46
Discussion about the differences and relationships between their dogs.
“It's honestly insane that Theo was ever earthside.”
Soul Dogs and Nostalgic Movie References
14:02 to 15:10
Discuss the concept of 'soul dogs' and share nostalgic movie references about dogs.
“And that's like a cringe online term, except when we're talking about Theo.”
iHeartRadio Podcast Award Nominations
19:16 to 22:20
Discuss the recent iHeartRadio podcast award nominations and their significance.
“Our first story, not to make it about ourselves, but the 2026 iHeartRadio podcast nominees have been revealed.”
Debate Over Award Categories
22:21 to 23:18
Debate the fairness of award nominations and discuss the importance of recognition.
Controversial Nominees and Predictions
23:19 to 28:00
Discuss various controversial nominees and make predictions about the award winners.
“I just, I seriously can't imagine that they're coming up with original jingles like we are.”
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Podcast Awards Discussion
28:00 to 28:21
The hosts discuss the podcast awards and nominations.
“I wish it was really, like, votes-based.”
Pop Culture Podcast Nominees
28:21 to 29:06
The conversation shifts to nominees for Best Pop Culture Podcast.
“I don't know where you can vote, but we'll be sure to let you know whenever we know.”
Jake Shane's Popularity
29:06 to 30:05
The hosts analyze Jake Shane's growing popularity compared to other podcasts.
“I want to say I think Jake Shane could and should win.”
Luke Combs on Podcasts
30:05 to 30:41
Discussion about Luke Combs appearing on podcasts and its significance.
“They were talking about their shared interests, which is like game.”
Pete Davidson's New Podcast
30:41 to 32:56
The hosts delve into Pete Davidson's upcoming Netflix podcast and its implications.
“So he's launching the Pete Davidson show, a new video podcast filmed in his garage.”
Union Implications in Podcasting
32:56 to 34:14
A discussion on the implications of unions in the podcasting industry.
“And so this is kind of like the first big Netflix thing that's non-union.”
Celebrity Status vs. Talent
34:14 to 36:04
The hosts discuss the disparity between celebrity status and talent, focusing on Pete Davidson.
“What do you think about Pete Davidson joining the podcasting sphere if he is?”
Potential of Pete Davidson's Podcast
36:04 to 38:06
Exploring whether Pete Davidson's podcast could succeed despite concerns.
“So I think there are a lot of huge comedians who would be like Netflix's first podcast who have a larger body of work.”
Real Housewives Ultimate Road Trip
38:06 to 42:01
The hosts discuss Nene Leakes' return to Bravo and the new spinoff series.
“And it's really interesting that not only is Netflix getting into the podcasting game, they're creating their own podcast.”
Ultimate Girls Trip Insights
42:02 to 43:33
Explore the dynamics and popularity of the ultimate girls trip concept.
Justin and Hailey Bieber's Legal Battle
45:56 to 48:26
Discussion on the allegations against Justin and Hailey Bieber and their legal response.
“I feel like we're like even outperforming our arteries ever since we've been snubbed.”
The Role of Psychologists on Social Media
48:26 to 50:28
Delve into the ethics of psychologists sharing opinions on social media.
“It's not like what's going everywhere on TikTok.”
Kiefer Sutherland's Assault Incident
50:28 to 52:45
Details on Kiefer Sutherland's recent legal troubles involving a rideshare driver.
“Are you ready for our fifth and final story?”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02good morning girlies it's the toast it's jackson claude and we're your host it's your favorite show The fast five things you need to know We'll start your day off swirly It's the toast I sound amazing Welcome back to the toast And happy, oh, Thursday It's feeling like a thurs Chugging along Really feel like my time in Florida is coming to an end Like, what is this weather? It's freezing, I heard it snowed in Pensacola Wow, and you weren't there to see it I know, and she's from Pensacola That's not much bigger than Maysville The weather's very on and off Even as I was driving today, I had to put my sunglasses on, take them off.
0:48I try not to wear sunglasses when it's not super sunny because I don't want my eyes to like not be able to handle any sort of light. Speaking of driving, I do feel like yesterday's conversation about driving just sort of set me off on this journey of destruction. As I was pulling out of here yesterday, just like ran into a pole and I heard this sort of like crickling, crackling sound. And I haven't actually went to the back of the car to investigate it. I just like can't bring myself to do it. And I feel like if it's really that big of a deal, like Ben will see it and be like, hey, what happened?
1:17Someone behind you driving will honk and be like, Jack, you're right. And the thing is about this pole is that I swear to God when I was looking and I'm just at a stage in my life where like the cameras are enough. I really need not be turning my neck around. Like, I'm telling you, it wasn't there on the cameras, the camera. But then when I heard the crackle, I looked at the camera like, oh, big black pole. It really came out of nowhere. You guys just one thing to say. Oops. My bad. I just really can't revoke our licenses I can't be bothered with stationary objects it actually is really crazy that like the average person can get a license no and that's what gives me a lot of comfort like knowing even when I'm doubting myself when I'm driving I'm like I can't do it like knowing tons of people do it everyone does it I once saw a video of a kid in another country I think it was four years old and he was driving a truck that's interesting you know what actually brings me comfort that I think about all the time.
2:12And it's actually related to like when I was, when I first gave birth, I was like so paranoid that somebody was going to come and steal my baby. And a friend of mine was like, nobody wants your baby. Like babies are a lot of work. I'm like, oh, I guess that's like facts. Like sure. People on the road, like they don't want to be killed either. So like if I'm just like swerving into lanes and you're in my way, I also have a lot of faith that that person, even if I'm in the wrong, they're going to get out of my way. Like they care about their car too. Oh, I have no faith in that. Like when I want to change lanes, where an ordinary person would like if there's a car it within 50 feet of me like I'm not doing it because I just think they're not going to stop what they're doing I just imagine like it's also annoying for that person to get into an accident it delays your day it's expensive insurance police like it's a lot so I imagine they're also going to do everything in their power to get the fuck out of my way as well and that brings me great comfort because I'm like I'm changing lanes and I'm like I think nobody's there and if there is like they'll get out of my way they know what to too yeah it's human nature to avoid destruction so if i'm just like swerving into your lane i have great faith in my fellow man that they will gtfo yeah okay i'm not gonna apply that because i just don't think i'm in a place where i can be like so brazen on the road i'm you'll get there much more of a shy driver introverted um imposter syndrome yeah you know but i think it sounds like we all have a bit of imposter syndrome on the road it's true we're all thinking the same things about one another.
3:36It's Thursday. I still did not watch Tell Me Lies. And I'm just feeling like... You don't want to watch this show? No, I do. I do. I do. I love the show. I just feel like... I don't know why I feel physically unable. Do you know what I mean? I'm still in the second episode. I watched more last night, but I couldn't watch that much. It's hard to go in and out of. You really have to be sat for it. So I understand if you don't want to take it on. Once you're in it, it's so good. But if I'm pausing every five minutes, It's not the watching experience. I'm also just like, I've got this baggage, right?
4:07Like Ben. Like when we get into bed, he's like, what are we watching? I'm like, well, I guess we are not going to watch a show that I watched two seasons of and that you've never seen. Yeah, it's been isolating for sure. Because I have to watch two nights ago when I thought we were watching. I was like, I have to watch Tell Me Lies for work. You don't watch it. So you're on your own. The buck stops here. Yeah. Yeah. So instead we ended up watching because I realized there's only one episode of The Pit Out. And I watched it the other night. So I'm like screwed. We ended up watching. Ben was really wanting to watch Martha Stewart.
4:36And like she doesn't have a show. Do you know what I mean? No, she has like bits and bobs of content. But there's no like together. It's insane that she got to like the homemaker level that she is like I know the greats. And she literally doesn't have a TV show. So he searched like in the TV. Martha Stewart. Yeah. And like these turnt old. Episodes on Amazon Prime. No, on Samsung TV Plus, which I guess I have. I think it comes with my Samsung TV or whatever. Yeah. it was pretty good it was just like it was called Martha Stewart's cooking school and so it's like very educational Ben was like taking notes I did fall asleep like it just wasn't for me she had this like famous butcher come on so that's like not only could I not watch Tell Me Lies I got roped into watching something like Ben was into that sounds nice though it sounds nice to watch Martha Stewart yeah yeah there's worse things he could have wanted to watch like Marvel I do want to say though because I watch a lot of cooking content with my husband and I feel like I'm very critical.
5:31You guys know I'm always talking about Ina. And like I said, it's amazing that Martha's become this like billion dollar homemaker without ever having like a steady TV show. And I kind of feel like I understand why. She is not like, doesn't have that. Well, she's very educational. She knows shit nobody knows. She was talking about like making stews and putting like carrots, onion, celery, like the classic. And you know, there's a word for those vegetables, like aromatics. Like it's like a fin charafoom. Okay. And she's just like so like woke in cooking. Like she knows everything. And it's just like kind of boring.
6:06Yeah. And if you're like taking notes, the roast chicken she made, I can make it. She explained it so perfectly, but it wasn't the most like entertaining. And I feel like maybe that's why her empire is kind of without its own TV show. And let me tell you, that bitch is so monotone. Do you ever notice that? Yeah. Yeah. She's not like warm and fuzzy. No, no. And she's not trying to be, and she doesn't want to be. No. It's really educational. I watched like a compilation of her making pies over the holidays and it was like bing, bam, boom, bop, boom, bop, bam. Yeah, no like pizzazz. No, no joke. Right.
6:37Oh, no jokes. No smiles. Yeah, even I like throws in a joke. You know, it might not be. No, it's awkward, but it's a joke. The most amazing joke. But she's like, she's got something. No, when you watch a lot of cooking content, you start to realize I actually watch someone who you would think like she should have a cooking show. I'm not going to say who. because she's otherwise talented. It was just a feeling to me like, oh, maybe she shouldn't. Yeah, not everyone can do it, you guys. Even someone you would think. Yeah, it takes a special kind. What else can I tell you? We had lunch together yesterday.
7:09That was nice. We did have lunch together yesterday. We had a nice time. We did. We always have a nice time. We always have the best time. I actually filmed something really fun last night. Bruno got a brand deal. Chewy? I don't want to spoil anything. No, no, no. It actually might be up for Toasty Lions when it comes out. I have to get the content approved, but yeah. Bruno's going to start paying his own bills as the most expensive member of the family. There's quite literally nothing better than when your dog starts bringing in money. Like I remember when I got Theo, it was like such an added expense to my life.
7:41It was kind of my first big responsibility. And I was like, I'm not even worried. Like we're going to get so many brand deals. I think over the course of his lifetime, we got one with BarkBox. You got Amazon Pet, remember? Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, so sorry, two. And that Amazon pet one paid extremely well. Oh, and BarkBox was the gift that kept on giving. There were so many toys all the time. Yeah, except that I was paying for BarkBox. And I couldn't figure out how to stop paying for BarkBox. And then I got the brand deal and I was like, oh, that's great. Now I pay for all the boxes. At one point, I think I was getting two a month.
8:10It was insane. And I could not figure out how to cancel it. That's how they get you. You know, they make their portal so fucking confusing. It didn't bring in as much money as I thought it would, you know? Having a pet. Yeah. You know what I was thinking about yesterday? I don't know why I was thinking about this. Like, I don't know what set me off on this course, but I was thinking about when you had Theo and how like he was just like the center of the universe. The moon and stars. I took being a dog and so seriously. For our family, like none of us had kids yet. It was our first like really big responsibility.
8:43Like when you would ask me to watch Theo for the weekend, I would clear my schedule. Yeah. Every time he came in from a walk, we would have baths. I'd make like little spa set up for him. I would like do photo shoots with him. We cared so much. And I even remember when like Olivia was pregnant for the first time. Yes. I remember thinking like, how am I going to love a child? Like my niece, like even more than I love the dog. No, it's inconceivable that I could have more love than this. Yeah. Because the love doesn't get greater than it did for Theo. That's what I thought. Now, of course, my heart's expanded.
9:16And now I'm like the worst dog. Fuck them. No. That these runs out of my house. Jackie won't even let Magnolia into her house. Right. And Romeo seriously like on his last leg. But it was just really funny to think about the evolution of like how your priorities changed. A whole weekend. I wouldn't go out because I'm like, Theo needs me. But I do think it also prepared us. Like it was the first. Not for motherhood, but just like for responsibility. Yeah. Like it's a necessary step. Yeah. I think all young married couples should get a dog if they're like not having kids quite yet. And if you want a dog.
9:48But also, but it does get hard if you want to have a kid within the next few years. And then like you do have this young dog that needs a lot. I think there's, it could go either way. Now with Brew, like we slayed the timing and he's an amazing addition and he's just one of the boys. With Theo, like we had planned on slaying the timing. Obviously, God had other plans. Now I'm stuck with Romeo. But you had Ruby at the same age Romeo. It's different because he was your second dog. but you had Ruby at the same age Romeo was as I had Harry with Bruno 18 months apart. You had two under two. It was just different.
10:22Yeah, no, it was different. For like a multitude of reasons. I agree. And Bruno is, you know, he's just a real one. I'm going to say something crazy. Shout out to Bruno today. I think I love Bruno more than I love Romeo. I love Bruno. I really love Bruno. You do? It took a while. No, it didn't. I feel like everyone like clowns on Bruno. No, that's Magnolia. You're getting confused. No, no, no. For a while. I feel like Bruno didn't get his shine. He just sort of. Well, Bruno constantly lived in the shadow of Theo. Theo was like sort of. It's honestly insane that Theo was ever earthside. He feels ethereal.
10:53Like he always was ethereal. He was this like sort of larger than life being. And Bruno definitely. Got shadowed. Got shadowed. So kind of the best thing to ever happen to Bruno was Theo getting cancer. Makes you think. That Bruno poisoned him and gave him cancer. Perhaps. But I also want to say to Bruno's credit. it like when Theo passed Bruno really stepped up to the plate as like the number one the big wise dog yeah the big wise dog he really took on the role he did he did and I just I feel like maybe I don't say that enough I love Bruno oh my gosh I love you oh and Bruno fucking loves me oh he does he really he loves his auntie that's so sweet I'm so glad Bruno's getting his flowers today we talk a lot of trash about Bruno but like sometimes I just like look at him I was sitting with him this morning because whenever I'm sitting he's like oh girl oh sitting he's sitting I'm sad yeah right And I was just like, he's such a good boy.
11:42Yeah. When he's not being crazy, Brudini, like Mr. Steal Your Snacks. Now, we're having this conversation about Bruno, and I do feel like we're skipping over a brief period of time. It wasn't all perfect when you had babies and you started blending. I feel like you went through a Romeo phase, too, where you guys just couldn't be bothered with Bruno, and he was just sort of there. No, sometimes I can't be bothered with Bruno, but he's fine with that, you know? Yeah, right. And I've always said we have Stryoclock, which are the evening hours and he gets to co-sleep with us and then the rest of the day like he knows you know his brothers have needs yeah bruno potter bruno lives under the stairs but like and actually quite a quite a very cool contraption not like harry potter yeah no he actually has like a i would call it like a beautiful cottage yeah the actually cottage court they when they were like renovating their house they built into the bottom of the stairs like how harry potter had a door there's a door but it's a crate and it's quite lovely yes i do you worry ever about like the structural integrity of your house because if one thing goes wrong like bruno's dead if he's sleeping oh if the staircase were to if something good thing he's never in there yeah right right right thing he's always with his mama and let me tell you having a dog is wonderful obviously but having a crate is so fucking ugly if you care even like a little bit about aesthetics this big black wiry cage it's so fucking ugly so having your little built-in cottage is really a privilege yeah and he has a place to go and then people are like well why don't you get one of those like nice crates like it's i'm not spending that much money on a dog what's a nice crate you know if you go to wayfair they have like really part like a little dog house and they're like wooden um and i'm just not there yet certainly not for romeo maybe for theo does romeo sleep with you no oh he doesn't no well he's still being trained yeah he's still being trained the crate is really good for him and like we when we never put him in the bed because we knew we were gonna have a baby and like when he was of age where he could start sleeping with us i was pregnant And I was like, no, let's not get used to him sleeping because we're going to have to show him back in the creek.
13:38And then like Ruby started sleeping through the night and like he could have, but my sleep is too important to me now. Yeah. Oh, and not for Romeo. Yeah. Oh, right. No, no. And like, yeah, no, no. Understood. Well, that's what's the latest with the pups. Yeah. Rip Theo, Rip King. It's always Rip Theo. Rip King. Like I know when I die, like Theo will be greeting me at the gates of heaven. Like I still have lots of love for Theo. He's your soul dog. As Margo says. No, I know. And that's like a cringe online term, except when we're talking about Theo. Like he's my soul. And you can't have more than one soul dog.
14:14No, no, no. That sounds like a movie, Soul Dogs. Yeah. And it's like dogs on a plane. Soul plane. What's the dogs movie? Marley and Me. Air Bud. Yeah. Air Bud's a real tearjerker, that Air Bud. Don't forget Air Bud 2. That's where we got our air buds Niche inside joke I love listening to music on my air buds Yeah I actually don't Me neither, corded I'm in a corded phase except I went to the gym yesterday And like I was moving, obviously that's what you do At the gym And I like frosked the cord Oh my god they ripped the fuck out of my ears It was actually like a hazard You shouldn't wear corded headphones to the gym Yeah, but at least like when one falls out, you don't have to like go scurrying under the machine looking for it like an air bud.
15:07That's where we got our air buds. Yeah. Let's get into the stories. The stories are actually fun today. I'm excited to chit chat with my swirlitude regarding the stories. Oh, is that your segue? Okay. Yeah, I feel like, okay. Okay. Well, having said that, whatever Jackie just said is brought to you by Wayfair. New year, new year. Yeah, that is. Yes. Yes, new year does new year. New year, new you. The new year is here. Get back into an at-home routine that you love and elevate your space with Wayfair. From bedding and mattresses to storage solutions for every room in the house, Wayfair is your one-stop shop.
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19:35Like free idea to iHeartRadio. It shouldn't be called the iHeartRadio podcast awards because it's just like a mouthful. Well, but not only that. And they have their own podcast. So it would be like. It's an honor to be nominated. It would be like the Netflix movie awards. Yeah, exactly. So they should change the name and then like have it be secretly funded by iHeart because that's like seriously Spotify doing awards for podcasts. You're going to give it to your Spotify. And so iHeartRadio has a lot of really popular podcasts. And they didn't only nominate iHeart podcasts. We were nominated. We're not an iHeart podcast.
20:02But I don't feel confident that we'll win because I think there's like another iHeartRadio podcast in there. And they're obviously going to lift up their own shows. However, it is fan vote. so if the toasters want to vote for us in the best comedy category feel free like let's talk about the nominees so your girls were nominated um for best comedy podcast um and i don't like want to complain no of course but i was also like confused because there's best pop culture podcast and i guess we're funnier than we are pop culture it's like whoever did the nominees really gets it because we always say like the point of the show is not pop culture even We do five pop culture stories per day, roughly 25 per week, sometimes more.
20:42But the toaster at iHeart was like, it's not about pop culture. It's about the hilarity of Jackson Cod. Correct. So we were nominated for Best Comedy Podcast along with Good Hang with Amy Poehler. Great. The Golden Globe winning podcast. Yeah, right. Distractable, Handsome, and The Basement Yard. Oh, do you know The Basement Yard? No. They're super funny. Who is it? It's Frank and his friend, whose name I don't know. their clips are they're literally like a tiktok built podcast but they like there are a lot of tiktok built podcasts but they have like a lot of a lot of fans they do like big tours they're super funny they're like one of them's a dad one of them i think is just married um and they're just like funny oh great they're very like brooklyn i don't know where they're from but they're so brooklyn so who do you think will win like amy poehler but do you think the good hangers are more fervent the hanger honors yeah than the toasters yeah i do obviously i can't say like i think we're gonna win but I the thing is I I actually like feel free to vote for me like I'm not gonna stop you oh yeah feel free to vote for me too um but I have no like plans to go to the show so I don't really like it's an honor to be nominated yeah I am curious if this is like you know this is actually like our first real big nomination I don't know we were um and you're the shorty awards I also I was nominated for two people's choice awards so oh for the toast yeah yeah I did get a shorty award please don't make me tell that story again um yeah no that's true I would actually I want to say I would love to win Like sorry I'm not I'm not better than that You know it is of course an honor to be nominated But I just want to go on record saying like I want to win So please like I will make multiple Accounts and I will vote for myself whatever it's like five times A day whatever the rules are but that's probably not Enough to compete with Amy Poehler but I have no plans To go to the war show anyway that's why like this year Like feel free to vote No you guys like But like we just were trying to be cool But like if you want to vote for us yeah it's like are we We're cool but like one thing about me specifically i won't like drag you in with my like i'm unbelievably desperate for like recognition um and this is it is this the recognition you've been waiting for best comedy podcast i haven't been waiting for it but of course it's an honor to be nominated yeah it really is an honor to be nominated now we were also snubbed yes in a in a category that i cannot believe exists and they found enough nominees that weren't us you know it's actually disgusting that we were not nominated for best ad read i mean did you just hear that whole wayfair snub ha ha thing and then the ollie callback like this is disgusting so they actually have a category for best ad read we were not and i have to imagine that these are all iheart podcasts and this is like iheart's way of like you know honoring their own sponsors but it's not it's conan o 'brien needs a friend is he not iheart i don't think so let me look it up hold on call her daddy not iheart my brother my brother and me like okay that's definitely my brother hold on
23:32is no it's not dudes on dudes i need to see the specific ad reads that they're talking about because i really don't i don't know how anyone dudes on dudes is i heart i don't know how anyone could do it better than thuma oh i mean please oh by the way okay even though they're not a sponsor dudes on the divisional round is that what it was called nope oh dudes on dudes oh i'm sorry wait hold on okay dudes on dudes is an iheart podcast it is hosted by gronk and julian edelman and i just i can imagine their ad reads might be funny but i also can't see them caring enough because i've never heard of the show fine distractibles i'm on my way
24:16distractibles is a spotify podcast hosted by mark fishback my favorite wade barnes and bob my skins, my skins, my skins, thoughtful discussions about funding out their otherwise interesting stories from everyday life. I don't know. I just, I seriously can't imagine that they're coming up with original jingles like we are. No. And doing live ad reads. Nobody does live ad reads. I actually don't know one person that does live ad reads. So that, you know what? I take it back. I don't want to win this award because an institution that wouldn't recognize our branded work is disgusting. Right? So that, that honestly felt like a snub to me.
24:51And then there, I'll just share some other nominees They have um Podcast of the year So that's like the big one Yeah like movie of the year Movie of the year Entertainer of the year Good hang with Amy Poehler I do fear it's Amy's ear I just want to say that It was kind of like a big podcast this year Yeah The Breakfast Club I feel like first of all that's iHeart Right? Because it's radio Yeah I feel like it's probably radio show of the year I don't necessarily think it's like podcast of the year Just saying Mel Robbins podcast Just hold on Can we talk about Mel Robbins? I don't have a lot to say because like it's kind of missed me.
25:26But I think that's like the point of what I want to say. It's like it just it came out of nowhere. So Mel Robbins is everywhere. She has like books. I know Let Them was like a really big thing. And I just I it's kind of how I feel about the weekend. I feel like I actually practice the Let Them theory. If you are a Mel Robbins super fan, like please show yourself because I don't know something just adding up about like her presence online. I agree. like I think if you are the big like there is not a podcast that Mel Robbins won't go on and I feel like if you are like at a certain level like you do stop going on every single podcast to promote your own podcast and just something about like how like low she'll go it's confusing to me just saying yeah I don't know but maybe it's just like so not our our thing that's what I'm saying but I also I haven't met someone who like loves the Mel Robbins podcast so that's why I just want me I'm definitely wrong because she's everywhere but like if you are a Mel Robbins super fan like please show yourself in the comments.
26:20Yeah I agree show yourself. Pablo Torre finds out. Okay. I Heart Radio podcast. The Daily. I guess. I just feel like I don't know awards like this like shouldn't be given to like big corporations. You know what I mean. Yeah. Give it to the little guy. 100%. The rest is history. Okay. This past weekend with Theo Vaughn. Okay. I feel like actually he had kind of a quiet year just saying. Yeah. Call her daddy. Yeah. Heavyweight. The Claudia Asher story. Don't be rude. and Giggly Squad. I just want to say, I feel like any award shows that like don't nominate Joe Rogan or can't, like any podcast awards, like really can be taken seriously.
26:59I know people like to like exclude him as like a political statement, but it does your right. Like it does take away. Whether you like it or not. It's like when they don't nominate Morgan Wallen. Right. For best album when he had the best album or the biggest album. When he was the entertainer of the year. Yeah. So you don't even have to give it to him, but by not nominating them, like it seems unserious and like extremely skewed. That's actually a really good point. Now, can I make a prediction? I do think, it's hard for me. Like obviously I live in my own world, right? Like and they're only podcasts.
27:30But I feel like if I haven't heard of your podcast, like you were not the podcast of the year. And we check the charts all the time. Yeah, yeah. And I haven't even like listened to podcasts, but I've heard of them. Right, of course. So I do feel like I can eliminate a couple from that one. Well, do you want to predict your winner? Well, I think it's either going to be, well, I don't know who it's going to be because I don't know how these work. I don't know what the politics are. But for me, I think that the podcast of the year was either Good Hang or Giggly Squad. Like, they really had a huge year.
27:55So that's my prediction. But I don't know who they're going to give it to because I don't know what, like, the back-end, what the back-end philanthropy politics are. I wish it was really, like, votes-based. Yeah, of course. Like, I think they take into consideration, like, who gets a lot of votes. But of course, you know, the president of iHeart is, like, you know, back there yelling at people. Yeah. Like, is he really going to let Theo Vaughn get up there and make a speech? And shake that thing. I don't know. I don't know. So very exciting for the industry. It's an honor to be nominated. Of course, of course.
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28:22I don't know where you can vote, but we'll be sure to let you know whenever we know. Can you also tell me who was nominated for Pop Culture Podcast? Oh, yes. Best Pop Culture, Las Culturistas. Oh, but they are iHeartRadio, actually. If they weren't dealing with their big Jasmine Crockett Gate, I do think they probably could have and would have won. And it wouldn't have been like a iHeart. Like, they would have been deserving. Yeah. Call Her Daddy, Therapist, Giggly Squad. Oh, I feel like they're more comedy than pop culture. And Vile Files. Also having a rough week. But also that's kind of part for the course.
28:59I don't think it takes you out of the running. No, that's what the podcast awards are about. They should have a category best bounce back from a scandal. Winner. I want to say I think Jake Shane could and should win. I agree. It's become a real destination. And I think like this year, particularly, you know, everyone obviously called it. That is big all the time. But like in this year, particularly about the year. Yeah. And I feel like a lot of music artists like who otherwise would have gone on call her daddy are now going to Jake. Luke Combs is on. Did you see? Yes, I did see. It's really like one or the other.
29:30Yeah. For music people. Yeah. Yeah. I did see Luke Combs. I'm excited to listen to that. um so i did um like when i had a feeling he was going on because jake started posting a lot that he's in like his luke's homes era i'm like well if he wants luke homes he can get luke homes so i was like sending him songs like you have to listen to these songs and i was like sending voice memos i'm like okay and he also has a wife and he has two kids like i was just giving him like a little bit backstory um so i i'm feeling hopeful i think it's gonna be great because i think if anything it's just gonna be different than what we usually see from luke yeah Yeah, like Luke on Joe Rogan, like I'm sure if you're into hunting, like a lot of that did go over my head because they weren't really talking so much about music.
30:11They were talking about their shared interests, which is like game. Hunting fish and loving every day. And so obviously I listened to it, but I was like just kind of like lost for a good portion of it. And I don't think I'll be lost. I think you'll be found. Yeah. You will be found. No, not Ben Platt. Luke Holmes has a song. Thank you. I didn't want to sing Ben Platt today. No, no, no. Are you ready for our next story? There was actually some podcasting news that I do fear you're going to hate. But Pete Davidson. Pete Davidson is launching a podcast, a video podcast, which is pretty interesting.
30:41So he's launching the Pete Davidson show, a new video podcast filmed in his garage. It will be streamed on Netflix. So he has announced the Pete Davidson show, a weekly video podcast filmed inside his home, inside his garage. He said that's where the best conversations happen. It launches on Netflix on January 30th. He said Netflix was the home of my first standup special. so it felt right to bring the podcast there too. It's me and my friends talking about anything and everything. It's going to be a great time. So I saw, I don't know if you saw Liz Woods posting about this. Apparently there's like a lot of controversy here because Netflix now like making podcasts that are just like talk shows and they're going to be on TV is kind of like a backwards way of creating like a late night interview show without having to pay union workers.
31:26Like the way you get Jimmy Fallon made or Jimmy Kimmel made is like you need so much staff. There's so many unions. it's like much more expensive and slow and like classic TV. Whereas like now in the digital age, like podcast doesn't have any of that stuff. And so it's like, it's, this is essentially the Pete Davidson show. Like it's a, it's kind of like an interview show, like how David Letterman would be, but they don't have to deal with any of that union. Hogwash. Says who though? Because if it's Liz, but if it's filmed in his garage, like there's going to be camera operators, there's going to be producers.
31:55Yeah, but they're not union workers. How do you know that? Cause that's what they said on the story. I don't know. you know like I'm saying it's not a union show and just because something's called a podcast like that just means I'm union yes podcast means I'm union yeah thank you I'm glad you get it is there something in the union contract that says no podcast no but like if you're creating a show and like you're doing it like if you're creating tv show no if you're creating any type of show union makes it harder it makes it more expensive and so this is like a way of very legally and not doing that and just hiring regular camera guys.
32:29Interesting. So you think it's all about the union? No, but I just think now we're at like an intersection in media where forever TV has been unionized. And now with the podcasting game, it's just a little bit more free. And the union is SAG-AFTRA. Yes, it is. So this takes it back to SAG-AFTRA. All roads lead to SAG-AFTRA. Because I feel like when you say like the union, the union, you might not realize like it's SAG-AFTRA. Right. And that means you have to like pay all your workers, give health care like it makes it the AFTRA. It makes it expensive. And so this is kind of like the first big Netflix thing that's non-union.
33:01Well, I look forward to hearing from SAG AFTRA regarding this matter. Yeah. You know, Fran, even though, you know, she's not the president anymore. Who is? For me, it will always be Fran. But that's fine. I'm like ready for a new president. I feel like she she was there for the big moment. Yeah. When it mattered most, Fran was there. President SAG AFTRA is Sean Astin. So I look forward to like what they have to say about this back door. In terms of the actual podcast. So we were talking earlier in the year that like Netflix is in the business of accruing podcast. They did a big partnership with Spotify and now they're making their own, which is just like repackaged TV.
33:38Right. Right. This is like the David Letterman show. But I guess it will also be on the podcast app and Spotify. So that's what makes it a podcast. But everything like Netflix originals are always only available on Netflix. So will this be available on Spotify? And the Apple Podcasts. And Stitcher? Great question. Because otherwise it's just a show. Right. That they're calling a podcast. And I think maybe that's where some of the controversy lies. I'm not seeing that it's exclusive to Netflix. It launches on Netflix and it's a podcast. So we better be seeing you in the App Store. Because you're not a podcast if you're not on Apple.
34:12Just saying. Yeah. What do you think about Pete Davidson joining the podcasting sphere if he is? I feel like it could be successful. Yeah. The thing about Pete Davidson that's so crazy, and this is going to be like an extremely hot take. I don't even know if I want to say it. Maybe we'll cut it out. Like in terms of his level of celebrity, he's like, he's not that accomplished, right? Like. Well, that's what chat said. Oh, yeah. That's where that theory came from. We did a Patreon. We did a Patreon a few weeks ago. It was just about pop culture. And chat. I'm going to ask. The prompt for us was like, who do we think are the most overrated celebrities?
34:47And so we gave our answer. Can you remind me what you said about Pete Davidson and why he's overrated. But we also recognize that we're very biased because we don't consume everything all the time. So we asked chat like for unbiased opinion of who are the most overrated celebrities based on like their actual body of work. And one of the names, and by the way, they're kind of spot on with like a bunch of stuff. Yeah. One of the people that they said was Pete Davidson. His celebrity is much bigger than his actual body of work. So his public profile is over, this is what chat says, his public profile is overwhelmingly driven by high profile relationships rather than standout comedy, acting, or writing.
35:17The fame to output ratio is off. The fame to output ratio. Comedy doesn't match the hype. Oh, well, this is what Chad says. He's likable and self-aware, but his standup and SNL work haven't really produced many iconic era defining moments that justify people's obsession with him. He relies more on persona than craft, which I actually don't think is a crime. I think a lot of like really funny do, but the sad boy damaged, but charming angle carries a lot of his appeal. That vulnerability reads as authenticity, but it often substitutes for range or evolution. Yikes. PR and media culture do the heavy lifting.
35:49He became a symbol of the internet and press, latching onto messy, relatable, dating famous women. But that narrative snowballed faster than his actual body of work. So cultural curiosity is more than him as a cultural pillar. He's interesting to talk about, not necessarily essential to comedy. The attention he gets far outweighs his long-term artistic impact. So I think there are a lot of huge comedians who would be like Netflix's first podcast who have a larger body of work. That's not to say that it won't be good or funny. And I think celebrities really like him. Yeah. And so much of being an interview show is getting good guests.
36:22And when it comes to people feeling comfortable, like I do think he'll pull a lot of people with the Netflix thing. And then also just him being himself. But I feel like as a comedian, like we don't really know him. Yeah. I agree with Chad about the fame to output ratio. However, I feel like that bothers Pete too. Like that he doesn't want all of this. It's not like he drummed all of this up. Like I think he would rather like people focus on the work rather than his fame. I actually think this has the makings of a good podcast one like you said he'll get good guests but I feel like he's just a funny person and that's what like that's what Chad says it's more his persona right that's what like it's not about the like one-liners and the cracking jokes like the stand-up like so I feel like that's what a good podcast is like someone who's just like funny and can talk to like friends and have a funny conversation and make us laugh also like him being a new dad now I feel like maybe he'll have a lot of um funny stories insights and just like a new POV.
37:12And I wouldn't be surprised if like this became like very popular, like good hang with Amy Poehler. Like I feel like she was post poised to be a good podcaster and I could see the same for him. Now I could also see it being like another Pete David project, Pete Davidson project. And hear about that we talk about and that we never talk about again. Yeah. The thing with Amy Poehler is I think Amy Poehler really likes to work and like is a hard worker, you know? And I think that's why her podcast is so successful. I don't think she just like shows up, you know, with Pete, I haven't gotten the vibe that he's like a big hard worker.
37:40And the thing about a podcast is like you can really tell when someone's into it, no matter how big or famous they are. You can tell when they're just showing up and reading cards or that they like really love it. And they're getting like, I feel like that's what happened with Chloe. I feel like at first maybe like things were really being done for her. But then she like really started to like it. I think her podcast has gotten more and more successful because she's so in it. She picks the guests and she asks the questions. And yeah, she has a lot of help. I don't know if I see that for Pete, like wanting to really get in the weeds on it.
38:03Yeah. So we'll see. We will see. But it's not a bad idea. No. And it's really interesting that not only is Netflix getting into the podcasting game, they're creating their own podcast. I'm curious where it's going to live. It has to live on like the audio. And by the way, if it doesn't go to the app store and Spotify, it's not a podcast. And it's just a show. It would be the Pete Davidson show. It's just a non-union show. And I'm calling Sag myself. Yeah. And they would be right for being upset. For sure. Are you ready for our next story? Oh, I see. Yeah. Sets Bravo return with Real Housewives ultimate road trip.
38:35So Nene Leakes is officially coming back to the Bravo-verse with the Real Housewives Ultimate Road Trip. The mother of all housewives and former star of Real Housewives of Atlanta is making her return to Bravo with a spinoff, which is celebrating 20 years of the Real Housewives franchise. She said, this has been a really long, long journey, and gosh, I'm happy, overwhelmed to say that I will be returning to Bravo. I almost can't believe the words that are coming out of my mouth. I'm just so happy. So the Real Housewives Ultimate Road Trip follows a group of beloved housewives from across the years.
39:04they embark on a once-in-a-lifetime adventure, making their way through some of the most memorable locations in the franchise's history, starting where it all began in Orange County and culminating in an epic East Coast grand finale. Each stop will feature appearances by fan favorites from different cities to pay tribute to the past, embrace the present, and look toward the many miles still ahead. So it's like an anniversary special. I, for one, am thrilled that Nanny Leakes will be back on my TV, although I am confused because she was embroiled in a lawsuit. She was suing Bravo for kind of like serious allegations, including racism.
39:37And so I'm shocked that she would go back. Yeah. And I don't even know where we landed. There are a couple of housewives who, for me, I thought were just like persona non grata. Like if you've ever been embroiled, like a couple of housewives who were involved in the lawsuit or at least speaking to that, was it Vanity Fair, about Andy, Leah McSweeney, like you'll never be back. And I thought Nini was one of those, which is a shame because she's an OG and she's iconic. I thought we would never see her again. Yeah, I think that's why she's like so shocked and... Right, and I thought that was not only her choice, but theirs also.
40:09Right, on both parties. So that's why obviously they've made amends. They can come together and I think she's excited for this. I want to say this show sounds like a good idea in theory, but in practice, I have no interest. Like in watching all, like a bunch of OGs come together and just like talk about the thing. Like it's not going to be like new moments. It's just like rehashing the old. This is for like hardcore super fans. It's cute and it's fun and it's a nice way to pay homage. I don't think it's going to be gangbusters. We need multiple seasons. Like I think it's going to be a one time thing.
40:40And yeah, I'm not like, you know, dying to watch it. But you never know. It's just gonna be like a lot of like hugging and oh my God. Yeah, I don't think it doesn't sound like there's going to be drama. Like it just sounds like it's like a produced anniversary special. I think they're I imagine like an RV with a bunch of OGs and then like stop in different cities where they've done housewives and like see other housewives and like say or go somewhere where they went on a trip and be like well this happened here and like I don't need a museum tour of the Real Housewives. I don't either but a bunch of OGs on an RV like doesn't sound bad.
41:09I just want to say that part. Something about an RV is just. She is addicted. It makes amazing television scripted or otherwise. So yeah Nini sharing a bus with like Teresa like okay maybe funny yeah. Real Housewives of Salt Lake City the first episode of the season they went on an RV. And was it amazing no oh what show was i just oh did they take an rv was it vanderpump rules kardashians oh that wasn't good because you know their asses did not sleep in that thing like no they did i mean chris went well chris went home but i just feel like it was fake like i i did not get them but they were actually doing it but i feel like it was someone else when they went to big bear or something vanderpump rules i think they went camping right and they took an rv maybe i don't know it's great tv it can be great tv so actually that element of the road trip part yeah i agree with you like the hall of fame moments oh here's where i threw up like i seriously don't give a fuck but funny people like nini being in close quarters that actually could be funny because the thing about ultimate girls trip it's still very luck so it's just like a brand trip i do like when they slum it like that sonia and ramona show no sonia and luann i don't know if it was popular I liked it it was very funny where they went to that random town in Illinois and like you know tried to help the town it was funny so that simple life sort of vibe yeah yeah it might yeah I'm just being optimistic that's really generous of you I feel like well oftentimes I would be but I've realized I've watched none of these shows I've watched a couple Nini does not do things poorly like she's just a funny person so anything that she's a part of like will be funny and so they were right to bring her back there aren't a lot of housewives i think a lot of housewives think that they have that they're like everything i do is so great yeah and it's just like actually not i've watched ultimate girls trip i don't where did we ever land with that because that they were doing them and they were getting a little bit more successful and that morocco trip which never made air because caroline brandy yeah did that end the ultimate girls trips for good i don't know and now there's so many other things like traitors yeah i do feel like when bravo was trying to bring old people back that was one of like the first projects and it didn't i liked the first one me too with the jersey housewives and ramona was there kyle was there was really like yeah icons only but i feel like then bravo found success with like other things and didn't need to do that ultimate girls trip anymore and i think it was expensive i think a lot of those women like won't do anything less for less than like a lot of money yeah are you ready for our fourth story.
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45:44I know, but that's where like personal accountability needs to take into place. Why would you be going to booking. 30? I don't know. These brands like to get fun. They do with the, with the synergy. Yeah. With the call to action. So don't go to booking. 30. Go to booking.com. I feel like we're like even outperforming our arteries ever since we've been snubbed. I know we have to show them. Yeah. We'll show Gronk. Yeah. Our next story, Justin and Haley Bieber are lawyering up against a TikTok over a TikToker over abusive marriage allegations. So Justin and Haley have lawyered up against a TikToker who claimed that they had an abusive marriage fueled by the singer's alleged drug addiction.
46:25The couple's lawyer sent social media user Julie a cease and desist, claiming she fabricated her story about their marriage, per TMZ. In the letter obtained by the outlet, the lawyer writes that the psychologist has allegedly spread, quote, outrageous, false, fabricated and defamatory statements she made and disseminated online. Imagine being a psychologist and you're making videos about Hailey Bieber. I just want to say, like, get off TikTok and get back to your clients. He also claimed she manufactured, quote, a false defamatory narrative concerning our clients and their marriage that were published and widely disseminated, noting that her conduct is wrongful, highly damaging, actionable and exposes her to substantial liability.
47:01He went on to demand that she immediately take down the videos in question, as well as stop posting that the Beavers are in an abusive relationship. If she doesn't, the couple would have no choice but to protect their rights and remedies against you. He concluded the letter by reminding Julie that she acts at her own peril and to govern herself accordingly. now I know people are like oh big bad celebrity rich people coming for the little guy and I just want to say this fuck around and find the fuck out I literally don't care and yes I'm a toxic Haley Bieber stan and I'll probably support anything she does having said that people on the internet are far too comfortable being mentally ill and like actually just saying things like whatever comes to their mind and not only do I think this girl like you can't just say someone is a drug addict and abusive like those are kind of big things and saying them as a professional People would look at a psychologist and be like, oh, well, she obviously is smart.
47:48She sees something we don't see. So you can't just say whatever the fuck you want. And I also like what message not only this sends to this particular person, but to people who want to be crazy and just say stuff in general. I like this. And to people who want to diagnose people that they don't know that they've never met, who want to sort of like yield degrees that they have and education that they have and projected onto people that they've never met. I think that's not something that you should do. And I could see people being like, well, Haley and Justin, you're so famous. Why are you bothering with a random TikToker?
48:18And it's like, normalize stuff bothering you. Well, I was going to say that surprised me about this. It's like that they saw it, that it bothered them, that it bothers them enough to do something about it. I didn't even see it. Oh, really? And I see everything. It's not like what's going everywhere on TikTok. No, but still, it must have gotten big enough to get across her desk. She had this theory that they're in an abusive dependent. Right. And so like that this relationship will last forever because Haley is codependent on an abusive narcissist, like really using all the big buzzwords. And it's a girl.
48:48You literally don't know these people. And why don't you, like I said, like get back to your clients and actually maybe not get back to your story. Because if I find out that my psychologist is being sued by Haley Bieber for making TikToks, I, for one, am glad because I have a new psychologist now. And so Haley is actually doing a service to this woman's clients because you can't have a psychologist who's making TikToks. I'm sorry you can't I feel that way about a bunch of industries I'm gonna ever see someone like oh I'm a blank and I'm and like you have a tiktok following I'm like well you'll never be my blank you know I know social media is forever I'm like it's really not no I saw that recently um and I was like I had the same thought of like how can you be in a certain profession and be making these tiktoks it's really finicky like when I see plastic surgeons who do like here's what I think this celebrity has had done I'm like okay well I'm literally never going to you I just like even like it's very finicky with doctors I do think doctors can be on social media but it's such a private thing that I would prefer that they're not yeah like I just would but some some people like do it well with doctors educational content yeah but if you're like making viral buzzy content on TikTok and you're a doctor you're never my doctor sorry you're just not yeah same like a therapist when I see therapists making I obviously don't go to therapy but if I ever did I would make sure that they don't make TikToks because like that's fucking crazy I'm sorry social media is not for everyone.
50:05Yeah. So maybe she will cease and desist after this and maybe people will take heed. I just think like you should think before you say something. Yeah. I'm surprised we've never gotten a letter. To cease and desist? I mean, we don't like - We don't like say allegations. No, we don't like go around diagnosing people. We don't. We just make jokes. Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? I am. Bad behavior. Kiefer Sutherland. What? has been arrested after allegedly assaulting his ride share driver in Hollywood. Yeah. Is there a dash cam footage? I'm not sure, but he was arrested shortly after midnight on Monday, January 12th.
50:45Officers responded to the scene near Sunset Boulevard where Kiefer Sutherland was found. Officers from LAPD responded to a radio call regarding an assault involving a ride share driver. The investigation determined that the suspect, later identified as Kiefer Sutherland. Kiefer. Kiefer. entered a rideshare vehicle, physically assaulted the driver, the victim, and made criminal threats toward the victim, the driver. Oh my God, here I am, like, always telling celebrities not to drink and drive, take an Uber. And then this one takes an Uber and beats up his driver. Like, seriously, celebrities are sick.
51:16They are sick. I don't even know what to say here. This is fucking crazy. Yeah. Oh my God. Like, seriously, Uber drivers don't get paid enough to deal with people's bullshit. Usually it's like verbal assault. Physical assault is so crazy. Like, it's just insane. You, a celebrity, a man. Like, what are you doing? I don't know. That, I need a psychologist to diagnose this because that is really not normal. No, that's really bad. Kiefer. Yeah, Kiefer. Kiefer. And you know who his dad is? Donald, Rip, King, Rip, President Snow. Not a lot of people know that. Well, they're both Sutherland. Benicio Del Toro and Guillermo Del Toro.
51:59yeah the Sutherland boys correct uh Donald he would not be pleased to hear about this oh I don't think my father President Snow would be too pleased to hear about this yeah so just don't beat up your Uber drivers I feel like that's kind of a good message to leave everyone with yeah like even like I've had like a rule of thumb you know even if you want to let it be an exercise in restraint just walk away yeah that's really crazy like this person's literally driving you home like it's insane everything comes back to driving it really does it really does but yeah uh i don't tsk tsk keifer tsk tsk those are the past five stories feels though they were weird you needed to know but they were fun i had a blast i for one enjoyed myself what was your favorite one oh i'm so glad you asked we should do this at the end of your segment I feel like the Halle Bieber one Oh really?
53:00I feel like I had a couple of funny lines Oh that's good I feel like for me Obviously the podcast awards But I do sort of get a little insecure That people don't care as much as we do When we talk industry There are a couple of topics So I was enjoying myself But I was feeling insecure Yeah like you were enjoying yourself Knowing you would get hate Yeah The life of a pod But I did enjoy the Pete Davidson one Because I know people like talking about Pete Davidson I don't but I like the other subjects in that story, like podcasting, future of the industry, SAG-AFTRA. I got to say SAG-AFTRA today, you guys.
53:35So it was a good one. I'm happy. I'm happy too. Job well done. Now, Traders comes out tonight. I do believe it's multiple episodes again. That I heard. So let's recap it Monday. I enjoy the show. I want to enjoy it. Me too. And Ben got in bed last night. He's obsessed. He's like, do we have any more Traders? Oh, and you know what? Maybe this will give my husband some time to catch up because I wound up having to watch without him. and then we could watch it together because that's like fun for the whole family. Agreed. I'm trying to think who he's a fan of that's on the show. Well, he'll enjoy the Donna Kelsey until he does.
54:03Yes, yes. The limited Donna. The limited Donna. She had like a little stroke. The limited Donna. The limited Donna. Oh, you sent me a video. I didn't even get to discuss it with you. So we answered our question yesterday. When do the Faithfuls find out who the traitors were? and when they get eliminated they get that note saying they've been murdered and then the producers tell them who it is and films their reaction which i'm obsessed with like if you go to the trader social media accounts you'll see portia and donna both finding out who the traders actually are um and they also share their guesses as to who the traders were and let me say donna and um portia both guessed nobody correctly and then every time they flipped a card they were like i knew it that portia literally she gave her guesses and they were wrong every card was like lisa right now i knew it rob oh i knew it no you didn't you didn't because we literally just asked you who you thought it was they ask who you like i'm so glad we're literally no you didn't know no that's like a new favorite part of the show for me is people's reactions because i imagine it's like such a mind fuck uh-huh um and if donna tube was like oh i knew it no you literally didn't no we just saw you not know it but no even if she knew it she wasn't gonna nominate oh yeah because because we had them sorry the producer sits them down it was like Who do you think it is?
55:18None of them got it right. And every person's reaction was like, I knew it. But you factually didn't. Yeah. So we just saw that. Now you're a liar. That's our show, you guys. Thank you so much for listening to the Tosal Monday Morning Show. We deliver the Fast Five stories that you need to know every Monday, Friday, and YouTube. So watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe. Please give us a thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast. We're back as we found. So that's about right. iTunes is your public area. You guys watch all the places. We're back as we're back as we found. We're back as we found.
55:37We've been a beautiful signing. I'm a really talented. We are. We'll see you tomorrow. Love ya. Bye.
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