Amigas Cheetahs: Tuesday, April 21st, 2026

7:10Claudia Oshry:the hits start coming and they don't stop coming and you know what i'm really i'm having sort of a change of heart in the sense that i thought her video was such a slay but now it's opened up it's opened up this can of worms i didn't know she had all this stuff that she was sitting on so yeah you only do that if you're sort of very innocent not if you have things in which people can come at you for i think also that's just like the position that

7:40Jackie Oshry:somebody takes when they've had a relatively like conflictless career yeah she sort of sailed on by yeah yeah like you and i i would never make a video like that opening myself up somebody would put together like a 10 part series of everything I've ever said that they didn't like like there's I have so much out there for people to like criticize I would just never do that and so this is just coming from a person who's like clearly never had a real you know scandal even though she did have the call or anything but she came out totally on top she doesn't know what it's like to be like in that vulnerable position so only like a crazy person would make that video and invite that hate especially going up against such a beloved figure yeah I guess I just didn't

8:14Claudia Oshry:realize that like she had all of these things and that sentiment was starting to change for her and she shouldn't have like opened the floodgates.

8:22Jackie Oshry:Yeah, because now people are going back and like hating on things that she did. And but like you ate it up at the time, like the gluck gluck, you know, like you loved that. If you not you specifically.

8:33Claudia Oshry:I love. No, I'm not. I know how much you love the gluck gluck. If you ate it up then shut the fuck up now.

8:38Jackie Oshry:Yeah, that shit pisses me off.

8:40Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Yeah. And it's like everything she's done has always had like a lot of visibility, you know, from the moment they launched Call Her Daddy, like they had a lot of listeners and like it just sort of snowballed from there. So it's not like she ever did anything of these things like quietly and you missed it. Correct. She did it and you saw it.

8:57Jackie Oshry:And you loved it.

8:58Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Everybody loves it.

9:00Jackie Oshry:Did you just see that? I did.

9:03Claudia Oshry:My microphone fell. The studio's breaking down. Okay.

9:07Jackie Oshry:No, I just like was being really aggressive with the mic stand. Sorry.

9:09Claudia Oshry:So since we're getting into the stories, maybe we should get into the stories.

9:12Jackie Oshry:Yeah, let me just think like about anything else I want to share.

9:14Claudia Oshry:We didn't like have homework last night. No, we have deer toasters today. A delicious stir fry. a delicious stir fry but every time i make stir fry i'm like i never want to make this meal again it takes so messy all the the grease my floors were slippery like the kids are slipping and sliding and it was like really back breaking and was it more of like an asian stir fry or like a mexican stir fry i would say because it was soy sauce and sesame oil and so like fucking love a fucking chicken stir fry i just want to say like it came out amazingly thank god because if it didn't I would have been really depressed because I slaved over that meal last night.

9:51Claudia Oshry:And I didn't. And what's funny is I thought I was going to cook it Sunday night. So I sliced the chicken, marinated it, sliced peppers and onions and put in the fridge to cook Sunday night. And Sunday night, I was just like, I don't want to cook. So it was all prepped and ready. And last night, all I had to do was cook it. All I had to do was even cook it last night. But because I was making so much chicken, it just took. And I do everything in small batches because, you know, they say. That is funny. They say if you put too much in the pan at once, it will steam the chicken instead of browning the chicken.

10:20Claudia Oshry:I'm sure you've seen that on Ina.

10:23Jackie Oshry:I actually haven't.

10:24Claudia Oshry:Oh, you missed that one. So I was just, I was really putting in the work.

10:29Jackie Oshry:I love stir fry. I love like any sort of like chicken with peppers and onions, like a fajita too. I love all different types of like global culinary takes on the traditional stir fry.

10:39Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

10:39Jackie Oshry:It's a good meal. Chicken rocks. but just don't make it yourself honestly oh don't worry I never do it's not worth it

10:47Claudia Oshry:chicken rocks is a stir fry yeah it was chicken rocks that's really what it was yeah chicken rocks let's get into the fast five stories that you do need to know wait sorry I

10:59Jackie Oshry:have to tell you something so funny I forgot to tell you this me and Ben were like last week it was so nice outside and we were eating dinner outside and we ran into someone we know outside side correct we ran into someone we know you know her too amanda she was in your grade in high school okay she goes to our shul now and she was like oh my god so good to see you guys hello so funny i actually just made chicken rocks like for my family and she said it to ben because ben is like co-opted chicken rocks which is our family recipe we've been eating it since we're like in middle school and so this girl was like chicken rocks chicken rocks ben ben i'm like ben it's literally

11:31Claudia Oshry:a family austere family recipe yeah to hear somebody else be like i made chicken rocks i'm

11:35Jackie Oshry:Like, excuse me, that's from our childhood.

11:37Claudia Oshry:But like, if not for Ben, chicken rocks would be a lost art in your household.

11:43Jackie Oshry:Yeah, no. And he did globalize and like popularize the chicken rock.

11:46Claudia Oshry:And he's preserving it.

11:47Jackie Oshry:He also kind of appropriated it.

11:48Claudia Oshry:Oh, for sure.

11:50Jackie Oshry:Speaking of appropriation, are you seeing the drama with the Hallmark movie?

11:53Claudia Oshry:I am, but like...

11:55Jackie Oshry:Hallmark made a movie about Mahjong and they like didn't put one singular Asian person in it, which is really bad. And then they also did like a bunch of collabs with like Mahjong companies. Like not one of them owned by an Asian person. And like it's giving Asian erasure. And while American Mahjong has largely been co-opted and like become like an Americanized version of it, like to not pay homage. Not cool.

12:13Claudia Oshry:Yeah. That there's not homage, I guess.

12:16Jackie Oshry:And like, why isn't there one Asian character? Like she could be the teacher. Like she could be anything.

12:20Claudia Oshry:But wouldn't that also be like offensive? Stereotype? Yeah.

12:23Jackie Oshry:Maybe. I don't know.

12:25Claudia Oshry:Then it should be like the leads are Asians. But other but maybe the story is about how these randoms got into my you know what I mean?

12:32Jackie Oshry:Like, yeah, I just think they could have thrown something in there.

12:35Claudia Oshry:I don't know. I think they're damned if they do end damned. I don't know really how they got out of this spot. They should have just scrapped the movie. But then it's like, okay, so we can't play Mahjong anymore?

12:42Jackie Oshry:Right now we're silencing Mahjong.

12:43Claudia Oshry:So we can't have movies about Mahjong. I don't like, and I'm not saying that I don't even know anything. I'm just saying like, I don't, I don't know. Drama. Drama. Fast Five Stories that you do need to know.

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19:00Claudia Oshry:Thank you, Tertley.

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19:03Claudia Oshry:Our first story, as we were discussing, Bloomberg dropped an article yesterday inside Alex Cooper's Unwell. Tears, screaming, and employees looking for the exit. so they wrote an article about uh toxic workplace allegations over at unwell different things are being thrown out there one that like her husband yells at everybody well i think actually the

19:28Jackie Oshry:article overall wasn't even so bad for alex it was i mean it was bad because i guess she's allowed it to get to this place but all the allegations of like toxicity were coming for her husband Yeah. Which like, I guess what they're saying is that Unwell hasn't actually produced anything successful outside of Call Her Daddy. And so that's why it's been hard for the company. They have a lot of like high level executives who have left because like the company can't kind of put one foot in front of the other. I don't think they know exactly who they are or what they're doing because they started out as a podcast network and they have no successful podcast outside of Call Her Daddy.

19:58Jackie Oshry:So Call Her Daddy keeps Alex so busy that she's really never at Unwell. She doesn't really work there. Matt does. Matt runs the day to day. And they say he's just the woke. He yells at everyone, threatens people. You never work in this town again.

20:10Claudia Oshry:Very unprofessional people have been in the industry for many years. Leave set crying. He yelled on Unwell Winter Games set.

20:16Jackie Oshry:Oh, and did you see that part in the article that said that Unwell Winter Games, a contestant dropped out last minute?

20:23Claudia Oshry:Yeah, I had seen a clip of it already.

20:25Jackie Oshry:And they asked a production member to be the new contestant?

20:28Claudia Oshry:Yeah, I saw a clip of it last week. It looked actually kind of cute. Someone's flight got delayed or canceled, and they couldn't make it, So they chose this young guy from production to like be in part of the cast. So it was just like funny.

20:39Jackie Oshry:Oh, that's it's funny how like perception is because on the show, I guess it looked cutesy. But on the article they were saying and they sprung it on him to engage in this challenge.

20:47Claudia Oshry:He like looks like a guy who would work at Barstool. And it was like funny how when you look at the Unwell Winter Games cast, it's like a guy who works for Unwell. It's it's actually that is funny. I didn't find that to be weird at all. But I also just realized that there was Bachelor Winter Games because I saw an old clip on my Instagram Bachelor Winter Games from like Ashley. eye now she's getting like all this stuff right everything and I was like wait unwell winter games now I just want to say about this article

21:14Jackie Oshry:I feel so split because the article itself I feel is a big nothing burger except for Alex like her husband's obviously just like an ass is what they're saying and I would think that it's like blown out. I feel like they write stuff about this like that to be like sensational and like just get in on like the drama and take advantage of what's going on. However, the interesting part here, and I know everyone's like probably tired of me hearing me talk about it, but I see so much of this through the lens of Sophia Franklin. And I feel good at the time that like, I think a lot of people now look back on the Sophia Franklin thing.

21:51Jackie Oshry:They're like, well, yeah, like that was bad. But at the time, like Alex Cooper was mother, father, like it was everything should the video see you fuckers Wednesday. It was all iconic to everyone. And I remember like we got a lot of hate for our takes on Call Her Daddy. People really didn't agree with us. We were very middle of the road and just like, wait, I kind of feel Sophia like they should be making more money. And then 60 million dollars, you know, the rest is history. But a lot of the the rhetoric around Sophia was that like, well, yeah, maybe they should have been getting more money, but she allowed her boyfriend to get involved.

22:24Jackie Oshry:That was her big crime that she was married to. Oh, sorry. She was dating a guy who we now know was like a C-speed executive at HBO for many years, went to Harvard Business School, had an MBA, is like an actually smart person. And these are two girls who worked in the industry for five minutes and wanted to renegotiate a huge contract.

22:38Claudia Oshry:And like had this huge thing on their hands and like didn't know what to do with it. Didn't know how to steer it. And they're up against like this huge media company. And they know they're being taken advantage of, but they don't know what to do.

22:48Jackie Oshry:And the only sort of like thing they had in their arsenal was this guy who was really smart, is really smart, and tried to help them. I'm sure he was glad he did that. So even people who were like, yeah, they should have gotten more money. Sophia's biggest crime was always like letting a man get involved, even though like, sorry, the man was probably smarter than them both and could have helped at the time. I think that's fine to say. So I just think it's like a little rich that not only did she get married, start working with her husband, they merged. Like her, everything she built in Call Her Daddy is a part of a holding company called Trending that she started with her man.

23:24Jackie Oshry:He had some successful like ventures. They've mushed them all together to start this unwell trending company.

23:31Claudia Oshry:She has given the keys to her success to her husband. He runs the day to day.

23:35Jackie Oshry:By the way, I have no problem with it. I just want to say I'm not one of these like man hating people. I work with my husband. Like I feel like that's fine.

23:43Claudia Oshry:No, the thing is all of these things, toxic workplace, letting your man get involved, letting him be this run the show that you built would be fine from anyone other than her who has preached all of this stuff all of these years like you know she's meant to like she rails on everyone and has guests come on who talk about like toxicity and narcissism and yelling and this and that and then like you're perpetuating it like you're supposed to be perfect because that's

24:08Jackie Oshry:what you demand of everyone else no one like you literally ruined your best friend's life and I guess her crime was asking her boyfriend for advice meanwhile yeah you've handed the keys to your kingdom over to your husband which if anyone else were to do like I would have no issue with but I do find the irony quite rich but she has like people who come on and talk about like being on

24:28Claudia Oshry:reality tv and their producers were very toxic and and that's like the workplace that like she's created right now and like you're not allowed to do that because like you say one thing and do another thing and I also feel like there's like two sides to the way that she runs her business there's like the you know when she's doing her show and she's like girls girl and you know safe space safe space smiley happy like and then she like does these articles where she's just like so like I don't care if people like it you know and it's like they're so different you know and I feel like now it's like the image it's just not adding up and I I feel like we've chalked it up to her changing lanes a lot of times you know like oh she's gonna try and be the go from girl boss to more like Chris Harrison yeah but it's also just it just is so incongruous to be like one way when she's hosting the show where it's like this warm safe place and everybody's feelings matter and then she's talking to Forbes and she's like you've gotta be ruthless and then she goes to Utah and hangs out with Dakota Mortensen well that's the other thing that of course yeah no

25:30Jackie Oshry:but I'm sorry I couldn't I read the article and all I thought about was Sophia because the article is a sort of an indictment on her husband it doesn't say that Alex herself does anything wrong she's sort of absent from the company because the one thing the company has is call her daddy and that keeps her very busy. So she's sort of offloaded these 100 employees, 20 of which have left in the last year, which is like a significant percentage of the workforce. She's left it all to her husband and he's sort of destroying her reputation.

25:57Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

25:58Jackie Oshry:This is crazy. And this is all the sorts of things

26:02Claudia Oshry:that she talks about all the time.

26:06Jackie Oshry:And as far as what I've heard from actually a couple of people is that there's a big article coming about Unwell from Variety. They've been working for a while. This is not new. I guess the timing is just crazy. Variety has been working on an article of their own in this same vein. It didn't really seem that like this Bloomberg article though had any like firsthand accounts. They didn't have any anonymous sources even. It was just like giving vibes. And I also feel like it was what you just said. Like you saw the clip of the production person and you thought it was cute. So they just sort of told it from a different angle.

26:39Claudia Oshry:They just put all the things that have happened in the last five years in one article which when you look at it all together yeah like the three serious shows that launched that didn't even last year right just like all of this you know i guess flops yeah but putting them together when i feel like she's done a really good job and and as you should do in business of like obfuscating that thing moving forward making the brand seem like amazing and it's like right actually it's kind of smoke and mirrors mirrors but the smoke and

27:12Jackie Oshry:mirrors but that's what everyone does by the way yeah they make these like fake companies that are fake and fake and fake until they actually aren't and then they end up doing quite well but that's so internet everybody is like always making their companies their brands everything seems so legitimate when it's like a podcast with three listeners you know and I think the difference for

27:30Claudia Oshry:her is like because she's gotten so much money from her podcast deals she can put so much money into one well so the smoke and mirrors are very expensive smoke and expensive mirrors and like there is a company they bought themselves a company there you know other people they don't have that capital to just keep funneling it into the business but like between 60 million dollars from spotify and like a hundred ish from sirius like that's a lot of money to like you know build a company and then get the things that make it successful and i do wonder why that was her angle

28:00Jackie Oshry:like i think she is kind of obsessed with being like girl boss because why isn't like hosting a very very very successful podcast why isn't that enough like why do you have to start a whole company with events and products and merch and shows like why don't you just be the call her

28:12Claudia Oshry:daddy girl like that's huge i don't know i i that part i just can't relate to i feel like that was

28:19Jackie Oshry:like more her husband like wanting to be a part of it and we could start a company yeah like we have to monetize the audience the 60 mil the 100 mil that's all funneling this company like why that could have just been yours like and you could have bought more houses and went on vacation on

28:33Claudia Oshry:that forever and you would get the hundred the serious deal is like three how many years and

28:38Jackie Oshry:then there'll be another deal the serious xm deal is outsized and that's most likely not what she's taking home because it's all these promises of the shows remember she launched three radio shows and then four more podcasts so she owes serious xm x amount of downloads per month that she's just not hitting her show was very successful but it was blown up because of all these shows she was going to produce for them half of them have been canceled the other half are just like getting by on on

29:02Claudia Oshry:fumes yeah there there's not like a big hit there but she'll still make a lot of money of course

29:08Jackie Oshry:like why if that was me like i would just like i would just be that like i get to interview everyone anyone i want i've ever wanted to interview like can come on my show and make

29:16Claudia Oshry:you a shit ton of money like who wants all this stuff yeah i don't know if that's driven like by her maybe also wanting to eventually exit podcasting yeah some people don't want to podcast forever they want to like you know if you podcast forever like that's every week you have to work it's not mailbox money like right maybe you want to set something up so that you can sort of become a behind the scenes person and not have to work so hard I do feel like maybe that's what she wants is not to podcast forever that's not everyone's dream oh my god couldn't be me I know I know but

29:49Jackie Oshry:people are different no you're right you're right sort of like retire into like an investor and be

29:55Claudia Oshry:Like a CEO, you know, behind the scenes, like still do your show or whatever. Like, but Bill Simmons, like he has plenty of shows.

30:03Jackie Oshry:Right.

30:04Claudia Oshry:He's gone. He could be gone. I don't know if he still does his show. No, I think he does his show. That's the point.

30:09Jackie Oshry:Right. It's not, it does not all. That's the thing. The ringer lives beyond him. The ringer started with Bill Simmons and then eventually became this big thing. Call Her Daddy was supposed to turn into this big thing where like Call Her Daddy is one in a million of the successful things that the show does. But it didn't happen that way. And so now it's just, I bet that Unwell is just sort of this like thorn in her side.

30:31Claudia Oshry:No, I don't even, it's not just her side, it's her whole body.

30:35Jackie Oshry:Well, of course, you know, and these like employees that she has to manage. And it's like, you're being mean to me. Like, who wants that?

30:41Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Yeah, I just, I don't know. It's interesting that it's just all turning. It's also weird to me. Fickle.

30:52Jackie Oshry:You know? It's happening so quickly. And I do think by the time it sort of settles for her, Sophia will be releasing her book. Like, I just think Alex will be shows coming out. Yeah, it's going to be a bad year, actually. Oh, I feel bad.

31:06Claudia Oshry:I just I don't know. I don't know if any of this will actually like touch her, you know.

31:13Jackie Oshry:Right. And what's today? Tuesday. So like, is the show still coming out? Because like the show's not about her. So and it's all pre-recorded like weeks in advance. Yeah. but if I'm a guest I'm not dying to be on the the show right now yeah but she has well that's

31:27Claudia Oshry:the thing it's like I want to say she has a lot of friendships just because like she once she was friends with Margot Robbie and Miley called her up but like where are her influencer friends like she's had like friends throughout not friends throughout the years but people have come on the show I don't want to like start naming them but like I know so a valid sorry not valid a common

31:44Jackie Oshry:criticism of her it's just that I think that people say like speaks to her character is that she has like no friends in the industry and the ones that like she did connect with i'll say their names like right sure she was friendly with morgan stewart jackie shimmel jackie shimmel like la like

32:02Claudia Oshry:very la podcaster there was a time where she was having a lot hannah burner and page were on her

32:07Jackie Oshry:show i don't think hannah burner and page were ever her friends honestly hannah burner was on

32:10Claudia Oshry:before like when she was still in new york hannah burner went on a couple times that even when she

32:15Jackie Oshry:moved like so you can be less by the way i feel like it's common knowledge i feel like page hates and i'm just saying this based off of internet this is not anything that i do based off of vibes i feel like it's like everybody agrees like page hates alex cooper because one time she like interviewed them both and was asking questions about summer house being like well hannah like how do you not like hate page for staying at summer house and staying friends with the people who like ruined your life and page was like excuse me so she was never on call her daddy again hannah has been on to like promote her various projects um but i don't feel like they were ever like super friendly especially because then alex moved to la like that can be explained away like her la friends what happened i don't know and so that's another one where it's like very incongruous with the person she is on her show that's like you know you would never think this person

33:03Claudia Oshry:and alienate so many people because she's meant to be like you're the girl's girl big sister her father yeah it's like can't keep a friend i also think that a part of it that needs to

33:15Jackie Oshry:be said is she may not be a girl's girl and she may be like isolating but i do think on the other side of it like i think there are a lot of people in the industry especially like women in the industry who are like insanely jealous of her yes and this would never be

33:27Claudia Oshry:her friend for that and those people are like not at her level and so i'm not even talking about them you know i'm sure there's always going to be people like that i'm not talking about them but like the people who have come on her show who are like at her level who are you know full lives and

33:43Jackie Oshry:don't spend their time like being petty and jealous yeah don't they stop don't they start las amigas yeah las amigas chicas friends for life always have each other that's what keeps us bright Amigas cheetahs. Yeah.

34:03Claudia Oshry:I was never at Amigas cheetahs, so I'm not talking to me.

34:07Jackie Oshry:No, no.

34:09Claudia Oshry:But yeah, just all very curious.

34:11Jackie Oshry:I know. And it's just bizarre how quickly things flipped for her. And I imagine had she known that this dumb video with Alex Earl, it's not even about Alex Earl anymore.

34:25Claudia Oshry:No.

34:25Jackie Oshry:Like I forgot about Alex Earl. if she had known I mean there's no way to know that it would have opened up this

34:32Claudia Oshry:yeah and I guess like for so long all the criticism of her she's never addressed it's as if she doesn't see it and like that works for her and I think it's a pretty good strategy so like to come down to the sewers and address welcome well now she's in the sewers and so yeah

34:48Jackie Oshry:and that's why she shouldn't have gotten involved because she was now taking it back like I think ultimately it was a mistake then to do that yeah of course and even so like I I don't really understand someone who very meticulously for years positioned herself she's not a podcaster she's not a businesswoman mogul marketer like on another level I don't I wouldn't compare her she was Alex Earl's boss you know to sort of join like come down and they start arguing with girls like younger than you and I it's just bizarre it just felt incongruous but the plan she had set for herself

35:26Claudia Oshry:it seemed yeah yeah so we'll see we shall see our next story Wes Wilson is speaking out about Amanda Batula relationship for the first time so Wes was on an episode of his show show me something his podcast alongside Sophie Cunningham and he discusses the drama a bit he says that there was no overlap. He said, I know there's a thousand different theories on the internet right now, but that is one thing for sure that did not happen. Everyone was single. He went on to explain that Amanda and he realized things were maybe a little bit serious back in February, adding that she has been taking the brunt of the backlash.

36:04Claudia Oshry:He said in the clip that her phone number has been leaked and she's been receiving hateful messages. He said, the hardest part I think with this whole situation is, you know, my actions have hurt people that I care about. He explained that he intends to give some apologies face to face and clear up all the crazy shit that's been on the internet at the reunion.

36:22Jackie Oshry:Like, I love him addressing, like, the one thing, like, nobody thinks that. Like, nobody cares. I don't see anyone talking about the timeline. Like, I don't think anybody believes them to have cheated.

36:31Claudia Oshry:I never really thought that, but it's a little curious watching the season. There's, like, you know, that sprinkle of, and so I'm glad to know no, but, yeah, great. Yeah, like, that's the first thing you're addressing?

36:45Jackie Oshry:Okay. The episode airs tonight, right? Andy keeps talking about this episode. He said again, like you're going to have to watch it like half your eyes closed because it's so cringe.

36:53Claudia Oshry:Like, oh, my God. I know.

36:55Jackie Oshry:I think I might watch it live with commercials. Like, what is he talking about?

36:58Claudia Oshry:What is he talking about? The season's not even so deep. Would we find it so cringe if none of this had happened? And also, I think Andy kind of backwardsly confirmed that this episode has also been edited since Scamanda.

37:11Jackie Oshry:So maybe this was something that they could have tossed.

37:13Claudia Oshry:But it's like, are they editing in the cringe? I'm also going to be like I want to see both. I want to see the pre-West Mandeville edit and the West Mandeville edit.

37:23Jackie Oshry:Yeah. What is it? I hope it's not Alan Cummings 2.0 talking about the feast.

37:29Claudia Oshry:Yeah. But as for West, of course, people always go to extremes like, you know, the kill yourself.

37:34Jackie Oshry:Like, my God.

37:35Claudia Oshry:The 1 % of the situation that's like not a lot of people feel that way. Most people aren't sending her text messages. No.

37:41Jackie Oshry:And Amanda is taking the brunt of the hate, but her crime is worse.

37:45Claudia Oshry:Yeah, it's true. It's just like crazy that he has a podcast and he has to like go.

37:52Jackie Oshry:Talk, yeah.

37:52Claudia Oshry:And are there people who then like listen to the rest of the podcast? You know what I mean? I don't know. That's a good question. And like are going to listen to next week's podcast?

38:02Jackie Oshry:I think there are people who finished out the episode, like just in case you said something else. I don't know if they're going to tune in next week.

38:09Claudia Oshry:And who are those people? Maybe they love Sophie Cunningham.

38:13Jackie Oshry:Well, it's like a sports podcast before it's a Skamandoval podcast.

38:18Claudia Oshry:Yeah. I guess they love sports, too.

38:21Jackie Oshry:And maybe they're keeping up with sports.

38:24Claudia Oshry:Well, they should be. I'm also, like, officially off of keeping up with sports because, like— Yeah, because fuck Lamar. Did you see Chloe? Yeah, I did.

38:32Jackie Oshry:Fuck Lamar. She, I guess, had—I was saying on the podcast, like, he was being really weird and honest about his marriage in the documentary. I guess Chloe had no idea. She sat down out of the goodness of her heart. She said she was not paid, but Lamar was doing this documentary and they asked her and she said yes. She had no idea that he was in the other room doing his testimonial saying it was like a fake marriage and he was just using her for fame and it was so fun to be so famous. So she went on her podcast being like, seriously, fuck you. I gave you my time, my money, my energy, you bitch.

38:59Jackie Oshry:And you're just over there talking shit about me. She had no idea what he was saying in the documentary. And I agree. I thought it was weird.

39:04Claudia Oshry:So I don't want Keeping Up With Sports to come out anymore, which means it's coming out tomorrow now. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe like, you know who needs a podcast? Like Caitlin and Scott. Caitlin and Scott.

39:17Jackie Oshry:Where is Scott? I haven't seen him in so long.

39:19Claudia Oshry:I think they should start like a podcast with like cultural commentary. Fast Five, Hot Takes.

39:25Jackie Oshry:I'm all set. Honestly.

39:27Claudia Oshry:No, I think it would be.

39:28Jackie Oshry:Let's leave the Fast Five to us. Like I feel like people come and go. They try to do pop culture. They try to like the toast is supreme. Let's just leave it alone. Yeah. Just leave it. We should be on NPR. We shouldn't be on public radio. We should be everywhere. It's a human right to listen to a toast.

39:43Claudia Oshry:I'll make space for Caitlin and Scott.

39:45Jackie Oshry:I won't. Just them.

39:46Claudia Oshry:Only them.

39:47Jackie Oshry:I won't.

39:48Claudia Oshry:Our next story, some exciting news regarding what we were discussing yesterday. Devil Wears Prada 2 premiere, Red Carpet. So I guess the movie is coming out imminently.

39:59Jackie Oshry:So I guess it's this week, right? I would assume. I'm going to get tickets.

40:03Claudia Oshry:The world premiere of Devil Wears Prada took place yesterday. And everyone looks seriously pargy.

40:08Jackie Oshry:uh it's giving movie that feels like a real movie global event it's giving oh gee like I see them all doing press in like press junkets it's just giving Hollywood glam yeah and looked

40:23Claudia Oshry:amazing she's probably my best dress as she should be because it's you know her movie

40:27Jackie Oshry:she is like a fashion killer she's and this is obviously her moment and it's a movie about fashion so it was a lot of pressure yeah the dress was perfect it looked like the logo of the movie with the horns like it was brilliant. Emily Blunt looked insane. Like I appreciate everybody showing up and showing out.

40:44Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Meryl looks great and also very like Miranda like. Anna Wintour was there. Lady Gaga was there.

40:51Jackie Oshry:What's Lady Gaga's involvement? She must be in the movie.

40:53Claudia Oshry:She has a song on the album with Dochi.

40:56Jackie Oshry:Oh, I love that.

40:58Claudia Oshry:Yeah, it already came out. Oh. But she's on the soundtrack. So that's.

41:01Jackie Oshry:I didn't even think about the soundtrack. Like did they make it like, you know, Buzzy? Are there other people on it? Or is it just one song?

41:06Claudia Oshry:Wait until maybe it comes out on Friday, but I just saw that one song.

41:10Jackie Oshry:And by the way, they have to start the movie with suddenly I see, right? Like that's so iconic.

41:16Claudia Oshry:It is iconic. Hopefully it will be in there.

41:17Jackie Oshry:And it's like Andy getting dressed and she's not like fugly anymore.

41:20Claudia Oshry:Hopefully it will be in there in some capacity. And then there's going to be so many cameos. So I think also like a lot of the people on the carpet probably are in the movie in some way. Lots of models, you know, Whitney Harlow.

41:30Jackie Oshry:Barbara Palvin.

41:31Claudia Oshry:Barbara Palvin, Heidi Klum.

41:33Jackie Oshry:Did you see that somebody asked Barbara Palvin and Dylan Sprouse about their, you know, that their home was broken into.

41:41Claudia Oshry:Yes, actually, it's our next story.

41:42Jackie Oshry:Oh, okay.

41:45Claudia Oshry:But Star started. Oh, anything else? Star started from the premiere.

41:50Jackie Oshry:Has anybody said anything about the actual film? Like, is it good? I'm so nervous, you guys. Like, I'm so hyped up for this. I was watching people get, like, interviewed on the red carpet. and just like no matter who you are like the movie is a core part of people our age as childhood it's such an important movie and like if they fuck it up I'll be so pissed yeah I guess we'll

42:10Claudia Oshry:have to ask people who saw it last night at the premiere maybe I'll ask Hannah Burner was she at

42:14Jackie Oshry:the premiere yeah because I think Paige is in the movie and so they were like showing up for Paige and Hannah looked great and maybe I'll ask like you know she always does she always does thank And also, do you feel like Paige was wearing the same dress as Anne Hathaway?

42:30Claudia Oshry:Her dress was very similar to Anne Hathaway. I guess it's like, you know, the fresh new silhouette.

42:35Jackie Oshry:It's the silhouette of the moment.

42:37Claudia Oshry:It's the silhouette of the moment, and that's a major slay.

42:39Jackie Oshry:On Paige's part. Yeah. But, like, I need people to talk about the film.

42:44Claudia Oshry:Right.

42:45Jackie Oshry:Was it good?

42:47Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

42:47Jackie Oshry:I'll let you guys know. Like, my ass is going.

42:50Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

42:50Jackie Oshry:Maybe there's, like, an early screening Thursday night, so I can talk about it on the toes. Like, I'm getting a sitter. I'm going.

42:54Claudia Oshry:Great. Maybe I'll go this weekend.

42:57Jackie Oshry:Yes, maybe your husband could finally use the gift I got for him for Secret Santa the year before last, which was an annual movie pass. He gets two tickets a month, and he hasn't used any of them.

43:07Claudia Oshry:But it was one year? It was one year.

43:11Jackie Oshry:It's okay. Okay, like$100 down the drain.

43:13Claudia Oshry:I'll pay for the movie ticket.

43:15Jackie Oshry:Oh, you're treating?

43:16Claudia Oshry:Big spender.

43:18Jackie Oshry:Eh.

43:18Claudia Oshry:Our next story, aforementioned, Dylan Sprouse gives a surprising reaction to tackling the home invader at his Hollywood Hills home with Barbara Palvin. So big story that actually just didn't make it this week because so far it's been a crazy week. But Dylan Sprouse and Barbara Palvin's Hollywood Hills, California home was burglarized or at least attempted to as a home invader tried to break into their estate and Dylan tackled him and held him at gunpoint before the police arrived.

43:44Jackie Oshry:This is so hot. Like this is so hot. To me, he's always been the superior twin, not to like put twin against twin, but like Cole would never do this. And I'm sorry, like a man defending his home, his wife is inside.

43:57Claudia Oshry:With his own body and physical self.

44:01Jackie Oshry:It's so sickeningly hot. Like, I just love this. I love this.

44:07Claudia Oshry:So he was asked about it.

44:08Jackie Oshry:And he tackled the guy and he called the police.

44:10Claudia Oshry:And it was Dylan's gun?

44:12Jackie Oshry:Uh-huh, he's a gun owner.

44:14Claudia Oshry:He's a gun owner. Nicely done.

44:16Jackie Oshry:Which I feel like is crazy for LA.

44:18Claudia Oshry:I feel like you can have a firearm. It's probably just that you have to jump through a lot of hoops.

44:22Jackie Oshry:No, I feel like actually a lot of people in LA have guns because of the coyotes.

44:26Claudia Oshry:Yeah, but you can own one, but it's not like they probably don't have.

44:30Jackie Oshry:It's not congruous with a Hollywood star.

44:32Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Well, you know, they always say one thing and do another. So that's congruous. I don't know what he says. But anyways, he has a gun and he's not afraid to use it. Anyway, he said, I thought it was pretty funny. When the interviewer asked if it was too soon to joke about it, he replied, I'm really, this is actually to my detriment. I'm really not a too soon guy in general. were laughing at things the moment they happen. He said, you have to have some levity in life. And thankfully, no one was hurt and there was no more violence than what happened. And so it's all okay.

45:00Jackie Oshry:That's like a really nutty response. I also saw somebody ask him about it and he didn't answer. He just went like this. Like doing fake karate.

45:12Jackie Oshry:I love them. I think they're one of the best couples in Hollywood. They're so underrated.

45:16Claudia Oshry:But I think it's so exciting that they caught the guy because like had this guy burglarized homes before like maybe he's Jerry Kemsley does he run in a network of burglaries can you go to his house and like find her Birkin like

45:26Jackie Oshry:crack the case wide open I think this is

45:28Claudia Oshry:really major they never find people who do burglaries no

45:30Jackie Oshry:maybe they're gonna go to his house and find like the jewelry that Kyle Richards mother gave to her

45:35Claudia Oshry:so I hope that like police are you know digging a little taking this seriously I don't know why I feel like they're not you know I feel like they're just gonna let him go and all

45:47Jackie Oshry:of Dylan's hard work like for nothing but just to release him

45:50Claudia Oshry:It doesn't seem like he's so like, you know, he's not like, and lock him up. You know, it's a traumatic moment.

45:55Jackie Oshry:Maybe he's working through it, you know?

45:57Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

45:58Jackie Oshry:He's in shock.

46:00Claudia Oshry:Yeah. They said they're, Barbara said they're, they're dealing with the trauma with jokes and fun and all of that.

46:05Jackie Oshry:Oh, I love Babs. Babs and Bill.

46:08Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Very cute.

46:10Jackie Oshry:They're such an underrated couple.

46:11Claudia Oshry:They are, but that's what keeps them great.

46:14Jackie Oshry:I agree. I agree. Stay under the radar. Yeah.

46:18Claudia Oshry:When we remember, we're pleased. there's not a lot of pressure on them yeah no they're just good it's all love it's all good you know you get too big and people start to hate lots of pressure too to like stay together i believe

46:29Jackie Oshry:that's what happened to page and craig it was a part of it i think honestly i think like people loved them too much i remember when like craig came on the show and they just started dating we

46:37Claudia Oshry:were like you can never break up yeah that's a lot of pressure that's a lot but in addition to

46:42Jackie Oshry:them like genuinely being incompatible towards the end i think that was a part of it but do you

46:45Claudia Oshry:think that sometimes that keeps you together a little bit like so many people love us and believe in us like i should love us and believe in us too no i think more often than not it has like an

46:56Jackie Oshry:adverse effect then you like start to hate that hate the thing that like everybody loves interesting

47:02Claudia Oshry:just the thought i've officially moved on from them you know yeah no i actually think they're better apart than together now like ever doing yeah it's actually insane that they were ever together it is true but i've healed me too are you i'm over it it's good it's all fine story

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53:18Claudia Oshry:Our fifth and final story, new book news. Nara Smith has announced that she is writing a cookbook. It is called Homemade and will feature a lot of her viral recipes with everything from scratch.

53:34Jackie Oshry:The cover is sickening. It's like very high fashion.

53:37Claudia Oshry:Yeah, she's like a dress and a table.

53:39Jackie Oshry:Like obviously she cooks online, so like a cookbook is a natural next step. but I thought the whole thing is that like her recipes are like highly inaccessible and unrelatable and she like makes her own lotion yeah it will be interesting to see like what she

53:54Claudia Oshry:actually puts in the book and also I would love to know like how she got to this level of expert cook because as I watch her videos over the years I just assume she's looking everything up and just like making it like for shits and giggles um and not everything is like part of her actual personal recipes so I hope the book like gets a little personal in terms of like sharing you know what she makes I know she's also going to share some recipes from her childhood growing up in Germany

54:21Jackie Oshry:so I was watching stuff from the Devil Wears Prada premiere and they had this little girl you know that little girl who like does inner red carpet interviews and she's like sassy yeah she was asking everyone like what's the line from Devil Wears Prada that you quote the most and there were like a couple of key everyone was like saying gird your loins everyone was saying by all means move at a glacial pace you know how that thrills me and then they were asking like lots of celebrities and nara was like oh i don't know like yeah it was like kind of a bad answer and everyone's like wait how do you not know like you're at the premiere first of all and second of all like do you not know the movie yeah um so there's just something like inherently like cold and like distant about her and i feel like yeah and i feel like a cookbook is so like warm inviting friends family dinner party so I could see this book being really successful because the cover is really pretty and it being more of like an aesthetic coffee table book than an actual

55:13Claudia Oshry:practical application of policy yeah but I'm expecting it to be practical like things that you can actually make and I think the point is I mean she definitely makes them extravagant on her Instagram but like some things it's not as hard as you think to make it homemade or make it from scratch and there's so much reward in that so I I hope the book just goes a little deeper and I'm actually surprised that she's doing a cookbook because I feel like as much as her content is

55:41Jackie Oshry:about cooking like it's it's like not it's not it's about like fashion yeah and it's like irony and it's like satire and right I don't know what it is honestly yeah and I I feel like this is very

55:55Claudia Oshry:obvious for a person who cooks on the internet but not obvious for her I know and so I would have expected more a memoir first i'm curious what the tone of the inside of the book will be and i think there's a lot of potential for it to be really great and educational and fabulous um but i think she's got to dig like a little deeper you know people don't just let people into their homes like because we like your videos it's true it's true to get that like next step is it's crucial yeah and like she doesn't always share her recipes so have people made her recipes before is her food good we don't know no clue that's what I mean like you know I feel like the

56:34Jackie Oshry:type of stuff that does really well is like 30 minute meals family dinners like things that are actually practical for everyday life and I wouldn't say that anything that she does is practical or relatable and that's why she's been so successful in terms of the internet like virality but a cookbook I don't know this kind of makes like no sense no I think that it does

56:53Claudia Oshry:the way that she does it is not practical and relatable like being in high fashion but that's just like pargy but I think people like the idea of making things from scratch like and once you've done it you're like you know what it's not as hard as I thought it would be and it's so rewarding so I think a cookbook of everything from scratch I actually don't own one I would like one but we need to know a little bit more like about and that's how I felt about Meghan Markle too like when did you learn how to cook why did you write how to cook like how did you learn how to cook from scratch Nora Smith like where did you learn these did you grow up with them like I just want to know more about the person that I'm like now making their food because you know food is so personal it's more personal than comedy so I but I also say I think there's a lot of potential

57:33Jackie Oshry:in terms of like actually the content right and so far the cover the title what do you think of the title homemade yeah it's good is that what you want for her like is there not a book called

57:48Claudia Oshry:that already I don't know not and there's not even like a subtitle you know a lot of people I feel like on the internet do like their catchphrase yeah what's hers what is hers from scratch like it's always like something about from scratch but i guess scratch is a weird word it's just not pargy homemade is like pretty decided to make it from scratch yeah called like from scratch it's really her tagline but okay homemade sure it's the same thing it's whatever synonym synonym and

58:16Jackie Oshry:it's a nice word homemade yeah no it looks like a coffee table book all right let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where I choose to help people. I am a helper. I am a philanthropist. It's our weekly advice segment. So if you ever thought like, oh, I'm in a pickle. I'm in a bind with my friend or at work and I would love to get advice from Claudia and Jackie. They're so smart and wise. You actually can every Wednesday or Tuesday or whenever we feel like it. Email us, deartosters at gmail.com or head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. Are you ready? Yeah. There's some kind of crazy ones today.

58:48Jackie Oshry:Oh yeah. Okay. Which one should I do first? This one really bothered me. Hey, girlies, please help before I kill my husband. For context, I'm 22 years old, freshly postpartum, and I'm just still figuring everything out, like breastfeeding, et cetera. The other day, my husband asked me to send his friend Josh a text RSVPing to his son's birthday party while he was driving. As soon as I clicked on his contact, I was appalled. There were multiple text threads of my husband saying how terrible I smell because of the breast milk, how, quote, disgusting my old lady bra is. His friend mentioned buying me lingerie to, quote, take the hint.

59:21Jackie Oshry:I handed him his phone back with the messages still up, but he never mentioned it. I have been waiting for the right time to bring it up, and I will have to see Josh at the party this Saturday. Please help a girl out.

59:30Claudia Oshry:Oh my God, that makes me feel sick.

59:33Jackie Oshry:I don't even care about Josh.

59:34Claudia Oshry:Oh, I don't care about Josh. She, Josh, who cares about Josh? And it sounded like Josh isn't even that big of a piece of shit.

59:41Jackie Oshry:No, he was the one who suggested the lingerie. But whatever, who cares about Josh? Josh is irrelevant.

59:47Claudia Oshry:Your husband is a piece of shit.

59:49Jackie Oshry:I know. I don't know how to tell you this, but you have a bad husband. Like that's really, really bad. I think that like a lot of husbands like do and say things that are like mean or whatever. But having someone who does that like at postpartum, like the crime is probably 50 times worse than him. Like let's say you had read his texts. Like you weren't pregnant. You just read his text. And, you know, he's like my wife wears a smelly bra or whatever. Like so bad. This is 75 times worse. First of all, anybody who's talking about their spouse to an outside party, you're like, you're done to me.

1:00:24Claudia Oshry:You're a piece of shit.

1:00:26Jackie Oshry:Your spouse who's 22 years old and postpartum. I have to tell you, girl, I hate your fucking husband.

1:00:33Claudia Oshry:I hate your husband.

1:00:34Jackie Oshry:If it's on site, like I'm literally knocking his two fucking front teeth out. He's disgusting. And like, I don't know what to tell you because like you have a really bad husband. Now, he obviously didn't kill anyone. He didn't cheat on you. But he might as well have. Like you have such a bad husband. I don't know what to tell you because you're 22 years old and you're postpartum and I don't want you to be alone, but like you're better off alone. And then with somebody who does this, like, I'm sorry, I hate your fucking husband. He's a bad guy.

1:00:59Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

1:01:00Jackie Oshry:And guys who do stuff like this, there's other stuff.

1:01:03Claudia Oshry:Yeah. This is just one thing.

1:01:04Jackie Oshry:I'm sorry. Guys who are obsessed with sex after the wife gives birth and like, you know, who are like, can't wait to get to that six week appointment. Six week, it should be six months. like I hate men like that and like when a woman shows up to her six-week appointment pregnant you know I've seen that on TikTok it's like it's so bad like unless obviously that's what you wanted and you're happy and like you were the one initiating the sex good for you but like I just don't buy it like you have such a like you have an evil husband

1:01:34Claudia Oshry:yeah you have an evil husband focus on yourself at this moment like you don't have to focus on your baby you don't have to do anything big right now you don't have to leave your husband you don't have to deal with this like I mean if you want to have a conversation about it and see what he says go ahead but he's a piece of shit so he'll say something shitty I'm sure I don't know that there's a way to like cure him of this or make him understand that he's a piece of shit I think

1:01:55Jackie Oshry:there are a lot of women who have bad really bad people for partners and they don't know that how

1:02:02Claudia Oshry:like how evil and bad and then one day they're stunned by something that they do like so you know

1:02:07Jackie Oshry:know that you have a really bad husband you know that do with that information what you are i don't know what kind of person you are like what how much you can compartmentalize how much you can

1:02:20Claudia Oshry:like would you rather be alone put up with i don't really know um so you know yourself focus on the people around you who do love you family friends ignore him he's a piece of shit and just focus on your baby right now and all will be clear in time but you don't have to make any big decisions but

1:02:36Jackie Oshry:you know it's good to know who people are yeah knowledge is truly power that's how like you're right some women have no idea and they get so blindsided like years down the road being like but we were so happy oh really your husband was evil the whole time yeah so yeah you don't have to do anything yet especially your postpartum but and like if you want to like give him a shot like yeah sure talk it out sure maybe you're both really young maybe maybe but how a man treats you when you're like sick when you're postpartum like just really speaks volumes about the person that he is.

1:03:06Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

1:03:07Jackie Oshry:Unfortunately for you.

1:03:09Claudia Oshry:To some loser named Josh about it. Like I'm.

1:03:12Jackie Oshry:Ugh. It's. Okay. There's two crimes.

1:03:16Claudia Oshry:One that he even thinks that way about you when you've just given birth. Not like that you're the miracle that you were. Two that he said it out loud. Two that he said it to some random fucking loser.

1:03:25Jackie Oshry:And then three, Josh. Yeah.

1:03:27Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

1:03:28Jackie Oshry:Josh. Are you ready for our next one? Totally different. Hi guys. I am an everyday Salt Lake City listener here with a crazy, situation. Long story short, my brother got into a motorcycle accident and has been in a coma since July of 2025. He's been transferred to many different hospitals at this point. And at one of them, a nurse on staff started taking a liking to my brother. Keep in mind, he was never her patient. He's now at a hospital that she does not work out, but she drives the hour or so commute and visits him alone very often. She visits him on her days off, touches him, cries over him, pokes and prods him and explains that the second she passed his room and saw him again he was not her patient they had a special connection i know my brother would hate her she's also like quote happily married the problem is my dad likes her he thinks his behavior is normal everyone else thinks it's absolutely insane and inappropriate and we really don't know what to do love you guys signed a toaster and disbelief that's fucking crazy and it doesn't even matter if your dad is into it like whether he is this is documentary fodder

1:04:29Claudia Oshry:yeah yeah she needs she's gotta go like why is she even on the visitors list right well i do think

1:04:35Jackie Oshry:you can just like waltz into it's not like jail like where you have to be on a certain list

1:04:40Claudia Oshry:but you can't just walk into someone's hospital room i actually think you can you check in you

1:04:45Jackie Oshry:say i'm here to see so and so yeah but i think you can just like visit like a friend like you

1:04:52Claudia Oshry:could just go of course but they have to like approve you i guess no i don't think that they do I think that they do.

1:05:00Jackie Oshry:It's not prison. There's not like an approved list.

1:05:02Claudia Oshry:I think you could tell the hospital like this person can't come because everybody has to be checked in, ID, everything.

1:05:09Jackie Oshry:Yeah, she's checking in. She's not flying under the radar.

1:05:12Claudia Oshry:If you say this person can't come.

1:05:14Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I imagine you can say that. But then I think maybe like the police get involved. This is really spooky. I do think like you shouldn't let this go. This woman's obviously mentally fucking ill.

1:05:24Claudia Oshry:Yeah. And like this is.

1:05:25Jackie Oshry:And sorry to your dad.

1:05:26Claudia Oshry:but it's too bad and I'm sure for your dad like he loves his son and someone loves his son but like she never even met him like no Jackie this is giving like truly crazy like delusional like so far beyond us like you need to speak to the authorities doctors and like people who know about this world to know that like this is not okay it's kind of giving like a grift right I

1:05:49Jackie Oshry:don't know what her angle is she's either like crazy and actually like thinks that this person's talking to her in which case she's probably like schizophrenic and needs like help or this is like a you know a con right like you you get close to a family you need money like something like that marrying him and he's in a coma right right um and then she's pulling the plug like she gets the fortune yeah this actually could be quite dangerous obviously we've seen way too many episodes of law and order but like i would actually and especially if everybody's on your side like get her away

1:06:20Claudia Oshry:Part of this is normal or cute or sweet. Like, not one.

1:06:23Jackie Oshry:Where is your brother's wife?

1:06:26Claudia Oshry:He's married?

1:06:26Jackie Oshry:Maybe she's just like, yeah. Oh, no, no. Sorry, sorry, sorry. And she's married. She's married. She's married. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you and your mom and aunties, like, you guys need to get this girl out. A classic your dad is, like, obsessed with her. Like, men are so stupid. Like, he's getting, like, taken for a ride by this random nurse.

1:06:43Claudia Oshry:The funniest part is you saying your brother would hate her. Imagine he wakes up from his coma and, like, she's there and she's like, He's like, where's Catherine? No, she's like, I'm your girlfriend. And he like doesn't remember. So he thinks that like this person's his girlfriend.

1:06:56Jackie Oshry:This is literally what Edie did to Mike in Desperate Housewives when he got into a coma and like lost his memory.

1:07:01Claudia Oshry:At least they fucking knew each other before. Yeah.

1:07:04Jackie Oshry:Oh, funny. Okay. Third and final. I'm sorry.

1:07:08Claudia Oshry:When people accuse Dear Toasters of not being real, like that's not helping.

1:07:12Jackie Oshry:Who could? I could never generate something like that.

1:07:15Claudia Oshry:That's not helping the Dear Toasters truth or allegations. Oh, I disagree.

1:07:18Jackie Oshry:I disagree. Like this is something only like who can no one can even think of something so crazy. Do you know what it has to happen? Yeah. All right. Third and final. Hey, Swirlies, I desperately need your advice. I started dating this guy. And so naturally, I decided to Google him just to see if anything crazy popped up. Well, I almost wish I didn't because I found an article from about 10 years ago where he was being interviewed for a foundation supporting members of the military that are addicted to porn. In this article, he spoke of his past experience with porn addiction. He's self-diagnosed while in the army.

1:07:48Jackie Oshry:now this is weird right he hasn't mentioned this yet and who knows if he ever will so my questions are one how do I bring it up to him that I've seen this article two would this be a deal breaker for you we've only been dating a couple of months so should I run or is this a not a big deal or uncommon I just want to say like I think there's nothing wrong with this like I know that sounds crazy but I think like a lot of modern adult males like are addicted to porn yeah like they

1:08:14Claudia Oshry:Even if it's not what you think of as an addict, like they are addicted to porn. Yeah.

1:08:19Jackie Oshry:Actually, a submission that I didn't choose was like I saw this guy watching porn on an airplane. Like I think that like the modern access to porn is a real addiction. So somebody who can acknowledge that and then like seek help and not be embarrassed of it. I don't know. It kind of speaks to his character. I just want to say like, yeah, we could be judgmental. Like you are addicted to porn. But I think that like a lot of young adult males like are addicted to porn and they don't even know it. and it makes them crazy and it's like screen time for adults like it's insane so I don't know I think it kind of speaks like people who can grow I don't know I kind of like like obviously it's not like the sexiest thing ever but it's workable yeah unless you like I can't I can't answer the question for you like should you run but yeah you could see this as like icky if you wanted or you could see like the the beautiful parts of it honestly and like and it's historically it's

1:09:09Claudia Oshry:kind of hard to get a boyfriend and like find someone you like historically historically it is hard to get a boyfriend and so you don't just like throw them away like because there's a blemish

1:09:21Jackie Oshry:that's why i hate it culture because you throw away like good human beings for like dumb things

1:09:26Claudia Oshry:meanwhile like they cheat on you and that's not an ick and so like i think things are always going to come up blemishes people are human beings they've lived entire lives like before they ever met you and then you have to like see if that's something that you can live with or that's just too far for you and I don't think that this is I don't know I think there are a lot of women who

1:09:45Jackie Oshry:are like actively married to porn addicts and then like they can't even be intimate without it like I don't know I don't hate this I just want to say like it's like I love someone who can like self-actualize and grow and like and then want to help others like he's speaking like to our service

1:10:00Claudia Oshry:and by the way like thank you for your service how about that like he was in the fucking military thank you for his service. Oh, he was in the fucking military

1:10:05Jackie Oshry:and this article's from 10 years ago. So like maybe it was even in Iraq, you know? And there's so much going on and he's working on himself. And others. I think that's beautiful. I have no problem with this. I just want to say.

1:10:15Claudia Oshry:And now I'm thinking about it, like I'm sure porn is an issue in the military. Of course.

1:10:20Jackie Oshry:Is that a girl in sight? I never thought about it. Well, you know, there are like, I mean like romantic partners. No, but your partner's not there. Yeah.

1:10:25Claudia Oshry:I never thought about it.

1:10:27Jackie Oshry:Yeah, it can be easy to become addicted.

1:10:29Claudia Oshry:And they're already, you know, it's a very mentally...

1:10:32Jackie Oshry:Tough. They're isolated.

1:10:33Claudia Oshry:Yeah, so, well, thank you for your service part two on helping our servicemen.

1:10:38Jackie Oshry:And I think you should stay with him. Like, if you don't like him, sure. But, like, it sounds like you do, and, like, this is throwing a wrench in your plans. And I think it's fine.

1:10:47Claudia Oshry:I think it's fine. And I think it's fine. I think you're fine. Like, oh, and as far as you bring it up.

1:10:53Jackie Oshry:No, no, no.

1:10:55Claudia Oshry:You don't want to look at him. Let him. Yeah, and it's obviously a sensitive subject. You wrote in about it. We can acknowledge it's sensitive. So, in his time. in his time it's only been you said four or five months just like told you and you didn't know it you how would you react probably like not good so at least now you can react as like the supportive

1:11:11Jackie Oshry:partner that you want to be yeah wife material because it's hard to get a guy historically historically it's hard to get a guy historically so you don't just throw one away you think about it i agree i agree especially when he's in the military is obviously in like tip-top shape oh yeah loves his country oh yeah all right well that was to your toasters thank you to everyone who wrote in hopefully we were a little bit helpful and that is our show thank you so much for listening to the toast the millennium morning show where we deliver the fast five stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube so if you're watching us on YouTube please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up we are also available as podcasts anywhere podcasts can be found so that's Spotify iTunes Stitcher public video I already cast box all the places why we listen to podcasts find us a toast leave a five-star review about how beautiful standing and wickedly talented we are it's actually insane that like every platform I

1:11:54Claudia Oshry:list is like defunct that's just i think speaks to how long we've been doing this how long we've been doing this and we are oh geez we will outlive these platforms what do i say that

1:12:08Jackie Oshry:where we get that's spotify itunes stitcher itunes this is apple podcast the podcast yes stitcher public radio radio cast box i'm screaming these were the places like actually 10 years ago.

1:12:23Claudia Oshry:I feel like it's time for an update.

1:12:25Jackie Oshry:You'd think? It's actually embarrassing. We're kind of aging ourselves. It's sort of like, it's Spotify,

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