An Apology to Pregnant Women: Wednesday, January 22nd, 2025

0:00Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the toast and happy Wednesday. Yeah. Wednesday. Oh my God. Claudia, this week has me in a tizzy. Okay. It's hump day and it's also the final hump day. I will be spending in these full walls. Just wanted to honor it. With each day that passes, I can't fucking wait to get out of here. I got locked in the lobby yesterday and the air conditioning isn't on. I mean, the heat isn't on. It's 13 degrees. Like get me out of here. Well, I hope that you hump a studio that you love that's been so good to you. Yeah, I do plan on going to the new studio and just like starting humping all the furniture.

0:39Isn't that like a TikTok trend where you like get on the furniture? Actually, yeah. I don't know if I would say humping. Oh my God. Also, I have been spending time on reels to try and... Curate the algorithm you wish to see in the world. Exactly. And I ended up on this girl's page check. Um, cause one of her videos targeted me and I obviously wasn't the only one who got targeted because the comments were like, how did I get here? And I want to say she's like Scandinavian. She started like a sexual wellness company, like basically like a sex toy company, but like her toy, she created a new toy.

1:13Cause you know, I feel like all the toys, her toy is a pillow humping saddle. For a dog? No. For a dog. Who humps pillows? No, for a human. Yes dogs do I guess I mean your dog could use it she says it's ribbed for your pleasure but it's for humans and then I literally like I had to know more about this girl she did I watched every single one of her videos so now she's taking over my whole TikTok I mean Instagram for you Paige oh my god it was one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life she's honestly an entrepreneur like she her products are sold out can you explain if it's not for dogs it's a it's just a pillow that you hump no no no no okay it's a saddle that you like wrap around your pillow if you want to hump your pillow oh it turns your pillow into something that you would want to hump like yeah it gives it like texture parts it gives it no no because it's it's literally a saddle like in terms of shape like a horse so you can literally sit on it it's not a pocket vagina it's not a flashlight for women it's for am i doing a bad job of explaining this or are you dumb okay it's not a flashlight it's for women and it's not just like something you wrap around your pillow with a dildo coming off no no no so it's more so like friction based if that makes sense I understand it's a surface it's a surface she's kind of reinvented the wheel here it's a totally new invention what she was saying was that like pillows can be shapeless and like sort of make it difficult to find a good position so she created a saddle that you literally wrap around you let me tell you jackie i was howling in the comments like i don't know how i got here and like reels is obviously trying to understand me because they're and then i'm getting a lot of also like surgical videos like you know how to remove a specific type of cyst like i don't know why i need to know that okay but you do like a version of that like a pimple popping oh no but this is like a like a med school type they're just they're feeling you out they're saying how far does she want to go with this does she want this no yeah reel it back in reel it back in so that's what i did real people actually i actually don't know if that's true based on my research thus far i don't know if i would say real people real people are real people okay but i feel like it's too soon to call it so that's your initial assessment all's that to say happy hump day happy hump day i actually made a discovery last night that i just want to share with you to just put a pin on the conversation that we had on this literally columbus myself because remember how i said on patreon if you were listening to me but maybe this will help someone out there that my big if that my skin is redder and worse than it ever is and I'm someone who has like red skin I always just get redness and that's something that's just a part of being me but it's been worse than ever and I was like I wonder why that is and I've been trying to like self-assess I don't really do that many things like differently on a day-to-day but I realized what I was doing differently that's the reason for the season because I googled it and confirmed my hypothesis I started taking turmeric ever since your husband was here and he left his bottle of turmeric and said it's good for inflammation and I've been taking it like once a day and then you're allergic no it can cause like dermatitis skin issues so it just yeah I it's causing that for me so I'm going to stop taking it of course so if you were having redness and just started taking turmeric in the new year because your brother-in-law brought it over now you know we might have to cut this out because I don't know if we can actually let Ben know that you listen to like one of his like eastern Ben is very into like Chinese I think it's actually better this way because it's like look I listen I tried and my face almost fell off yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but I just don't want him to know like he has any power over us and like he does and that when he talks like we're actually listening he said the key word which is inflammation which really is the big one of the bingo words don't you find of the year yeah you're like everyone's talking about inflammation I also associate inflammation with bloating so I'm like let me take my de-bloat pills and they're gonna turn my skin red.

5:09When I think of inflammation, one thing about me, I actually don't think about inflammation and I don't want to. I'm feeling really good about that. Everyone's talking about inflammation. Don't you find like all the work? I feel like everyone's talking about like their gut. Gut microbiome, inflammation, metabolic health. I haven't ended up on that for you, Paige. You haven't met those siblings? No. Casey and Callie Means? I'm not familiar. You've definitely seen her. she was just on Kristen Cavallari. I don't know if Rios has targeted you for that yet. No. She talks a lot about metabolic health and it all comes back, like everything that's going wrong in everyone at all times has to do with your metabolic health.

5:48So there's just like a new part of the body that like people discover on the internet like every two years and they say, well, oh, cortisol. I'm on cortisol. Do you know cortisol? Well, Jackie, if you're fat, if you're ugly and you're unhappy, it's because your cortisol levels are low. Like, did you not know that? And we're also taking cortisol, but you could just take it and bring it back, right? Oh, I don't know. I think people are taking cortisol. I think people are taking cortisol. So that's what I'm saying. There's always like a newfangled, like part of your body where it's like, that's literally where all your problems come from.

6:15It's inflammation. No, and this isn't an ad, but it does make me want to do the new Skinny Confidential Beauty Water. This is not an ad, even though like she's our boss, because it has like three different things in it that I'm trying to get into my everyday. Colistrum, electrolytes, and then like pearl. And I think that's the cortisol. Pearl. What's it from? I don't know. Earl. Somebody help me. Wait, Ben would know. Let me just send him a voice. This is like an amalgamation of all of the different reels that I see from the wellness podcasts that I'm interested in, but like don't listen to the whole thing of.

6:49Puh. Earl. It's something that you watch with Ben. Is it from Covenant? What did you just watch? Coventry? What did I just watch? Thank you. Is it from Covenant? Margot, what is this from? Pearl. Puh. Earl. one of them will know is it from what like what would somebody be saying pearl spongebob no i'm oh maybe spongebob but it's not pearl watch i'm like actually making it up that's so me yeah these fool there was a trend on tiktok like last week so i guess that's your wellness recap that's your reels recap i'm back to tiktok there was a trend on TikTok last night it's like when um when you say you're a Miley Cyrus fan so they expect you to play Flowers but you play this instead.

7:37I follow enough Hannah Montana Archive accounts on X that I've seen all this. So I like two weekends ago spent a lot of time in the car and I listened to Breakout and this is Miley Cyrus like and her music I'm this is not a slight to her current music but it is literally the best music she ever made like those two albums I forgot and it's crazy how you literally know the words to songs you haven't heard in like 18 years those two albums are actually works of art and those are not Disney are they they were like she was still like Disney Breakout is Disney and then Hannah Montella and Meet Miley Cyrus that's Disney and I guess the driveway will be the end did we have this conversation already not about driveway but I feel like the first album that maybe she was still under her Disney contract but she wasn't being Hannah anymore was Can't Be Tamed it's from Friends thank you it's for I should have known anything anything that you reference that I don't know is either conclave or friends conclave what could I possibly reference from conclave you're so annoying your new favorite movie conclave I actually talked about it all day yesterday it was seriously the craziest movie I'd ever seen you said that's the last movie the substance that really was the craziest movie I'd ever seen but like when Josh told Ben to watch it like yeah like I understood why.

8:57He was right for that? Yeah it's a movie like I can't stop talking about it. That's what a film is supposed to do. That's what I said about the substance. Like was it good? Like kind of. Did it make me think and feel? Yes. And that's important. That is important. That's like Real Housewives of Beverly Hills which we're going to recap at the end of the show which both Claudia and I watched last night. Did you feel something? Anger, frustration, confusion. I felt like actually annoyed. Yeah. At Kyle. Yeah. and we'll we'll get into it i feel like there's a lot also like offline and it's also like nothing like major is happening it's a lot of like subtext don't you find like even that one bit about like she meant production oh they show us the cameras like oh what when garcelle said i mean production likes to laugh like seriously that was probably one of it was a sleigh like it was such a sleigh because it was a good point like i feel like if you just say that's like denise richards if you just say bravo bravo bravo if you bring up production you think that like you kind of get it passed no I was ready to be like oh yeah production production can laugh I was like oh yeah I know she's right there's things that like she can't repeat because of production and then Garcelle was like no no that was such a slay I feel like sometimes in confessionals housewives like really think that they like ate when they say something and it's actually cringe that was truly a serve yeah it was really funny uh we will save our recap yes till the end we think and other than that what's new with turtle loo i'm wearing a sweater from amazon i am at the phase of my life where like obviously i need bigger clothes that's just sort of a fact of life let's let's not get deeper than that you know and i can't justify spending like a lot of money on it so my wardrobe is pretty much 100 amazon these days i wouldn't have it any other way like i know people clown on like clothes from amazon if the quality was poor it's literally not Like what's different from this sweater from like a sweater from like the store?

10:50Well, it depends on the store. And then it's just like, it's so, it's so fine. Ingredients. So it's not necessarily maternity clothes, although I did place a big purchase order. As you should. From maternity clothes. That's just like, it's just become unavoidable at this point. As it should be. And as you should do. Like, I don't know like what you're trying to prove to anyone. Oh, I actually meant to ask you this. Cause like Ben was making fun of me last night because I was like laying with my belly out. because like the waistband was just hurting me and he was like your stomach is clear like my I've never been a type of girl to wear bikinis like the color of my stomach is like the color I was born it's never seen the sun it's like your ass cheeks it's like it's crazy to think about that that's actually what my face could and should look like if I never saw the sun so I was just like you know looking at my stomach because then Ben was making me feel self-conscious and like tell me if this is like a pregnancy thing or I've never like like stared at my stomach like it was literally hairy well you have hair all over your body except for your palms and your feet no i know but like dark black hairs i literally was like get me my tweezer and i went to town i feel like people get a hairier belly during pregnancy i don't literally look like a chimpanzee like i don't i don't recall having that but i feel like that's a normal you also have like hair right so it's just like peach fuzz but i feel like where you have that line the linea yeah i was familiar with the line from like the belly button to the pussy crack but like it was kind of it was kind of all over you know kind of like above around the bell button maybe it's keeping baby warm for the winter anymore i twisted i literally was like get out of here as if my body hasn't changed enough and i have to deal with this i don't think so okay turdolo yeah so just don't look at anything okay well that's something else i'm glad you brought it up just don't look why you're taking away your mirror no i looked today when i was getting dressed like i just i looked at everything and it's a beautiful miracle wouldn't you say this what did you say what i say it's beautiful no was it worse than like what i had been picturing no and it's miraculous of course of course of course of course it's Miraculous.

13:05You just like, you're, you're the negative self-talk about like the size and the clothes. Like it's gotta stop because it's miraculous and it's beautiful no matter what you say. Yes, I know. Okay. How about that? I know. I'm not going to argue with you, but like, okay, good luck getting me to stop. I know. I, it's impossible. No. Oh, and I actually, I don't know if I said this to you or I said it to somebody else about you, but I've been meaning to apologize to you and like every other bitch in my life who like, you know I would talk to when they were pregnant or postpartum and they would like complain about their weight or just like their size like not even complain just like remark on it mention it and my whole philosophy was like girl you are literally growing a baby stop like I will not hear it and honestly like no you're valid in your feelings keep talking you are fat like I really I because when people say to me it's like it's beautiful like it is I'm holding space for two truths like it's beautiful and I feel disgusting like so I feel like I anytime a pregnant woman in my life like confided in me I was like I shut it down I'm like stop that right now you are beautiful look at this beautiful child and it's a yes however if you feel fat feel that way no but I think also I think I need to give you a bit of that one because like the the more you talk about something like the more and the more you think about something like the more it just consumes you so like if you stop those thoughts in their tracks like it you won't feel it all the time so I think we need to stop those thoughts in their tracks well I think if I need to stop the thoughts in the track I have to stop being big and that's just not going to happen you know no you need to focus on another element of what your body is doing I think I need to start like a side hustle or something just to get my mind off of the changes going on honestly like that's when I'm distracted I don't think about it yeah like when I'm laying around watching Jeopardy I'm like damn my guys are huge oh my god and actually it's really crazy the way like because I've been like overweight my whole life so like it's not new to me but it's like a new type of overweight and I guess like it's really like they say like childbearing hips like my ass and hips are going wide where it's like I never used to get big like that some people do get it's much I think it's I like it better like it's technically like curvy but really the way in which you grow is different than just a classic weight gain yeah because it's all expertly designed yeah yeah I guess I only just found that out I was like reading something on Twitter that men don't have hips yeah like because it's for childbearing right that's like so crazy no i feel like i feel like i do that they might have they have like hip bones yeah but like they don't go out yeah yeah because like they don't need them no interesting very interesting turtle room now excited to dive in i never like i don't think i never say these words i'm really excited to dive into our lead sponsor oh okay because now without further ado Do-da-do-da-do.

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20:56So Justin Baldoni's team released a video that was like an uncut footage from it was about 10 minutes long from one of their scenes in the movie and they also teased the launch and this is a scene that Blake had referenced in her complaint so they're like oh you want to see this here here's here it is but they also teased the launch of a new website meant to directly squash her claims they said Justin and team have the right to defend themselves with the truth this is what we will be continuing to show with the upcoming website containing all correspondence as well as relevant videos um so the video that they show has like a lot of dialogue where they're talking and I didn't see the movie but in the background like they're winning the Stanley Cup but the two of them are talking so like are we just watching them like talk and flirt yeah it's a part of like a montage of them like falling in love it's just like all slow-mo it's all mute there's a song playing over it so that's what they're talking about they're like doing they're talking during the scene they're like do we need to talk their voices are not they're not even mic'd like their voices are not a part of this particular scene but they're also like talking and a little bit disagreeing about like random stuff and smiling at each other so like it actually kissing so the way that it comes off it feels like they're flirting and they're talking about like their spouses because they're like having disagreements about like how you are in love with your partner Blake is saying well Ryan and I we love to talk you know there's not enough time in the day to talk so when we get together we're just stuck and and justin just like oh me and emily we just like to stare into each other's eyes for minutes at a time smiling and looking at her lovingly it is the weirdest nuzzling her neck it is the weirdest thing to watch then they have to like you know bump noses kissing and and and jenny slate catches a stray bullet jenny slate catches a stray bullet because blake live he was like oh my gosh your nose is so big that's actually no that's not what she said because everyone's like diagnosing there's a nose thing like was weird so they're like bumping heads and it's like it's gonna look cute but in the moment they're like acknowledging like this is a weird thing for two people to doing she's like oh my god this is like so nosy yeah it's just like nose nose and he's like yeah i know and my nose is huge and she's like yeah it is and then he's like well that's why we hired jenny slate like she also has a big nose it's like okay objection relevance and like people okay sorry continue he yeah he throws in jenny slate which like does sound random but then i saw like someone had argued that because she plays his sister in the movie so it was just like throwing in how it's like a big no set we're a big no family yeah family so like i can i can let that go so the thing is this video is so subjective like yeah because he's using it he's using it to prove his claims and there was even like the thing about the smelling and how she's like saying that she smells bad because of the spray tan he corroborates that and then she had said previously like he said that she smelled bad um so he's presenting it like look look what it is and then she her team is like yes exactly look so any woman she's her team statement was like yeah any woman who's experienced like feeling uncomfortable in the workplace can know like the attempts at making jokes to like lighten it up and like feel so I think whatever team you've been on up until this point like you're gonna argue your side because you really can make the case for both like you could look at this and be like yeah it's like weird but it's innocuous it's just like a day at work but then you could also look at it like through the lens of all this subtext and be like no like this isn't appropriate like you really could argue both sides so it's not like a complete in my opinion serve although like public opinion has swayed so to justin's side and it's so crazy that he I mean I I would I would too like I care a lot about what people think and so he so clearly cares about what people think and he's being like a little obvious about it like with the website the website feels like a little like icky to me no like a little high school oh for sure but like it's this is all on the internet now and like I feel like for him like if he doesn't save his good name like he won't work again there's not really much else that he can do like his whole career and like is riding on how up until this point yeah and for Blake I feel like whether or not people think she's a mean girl like she'll be like she'll work again she'll survive she has her husband like she has her family she has she's you know so I do feel like the stakes are like a little different and that's why he doesn't care if you think that that's a weird move like he just wants the people to see how he experienced it and I still think with all the stuff that is going to come forward it's all going to be in like the subtext of how it's read and it's actually a perfect like psychological experiment human behavior how like two people can really think that they are right and that they've been wronged and when you see it from their perspective you see it like that but when you look at it from the other perspective you see it the other way I feel like we talk about this all the time even with dear toasters like oh what does the other person have to say right so it is sort of interesting but watching this video you want to know my takeaway I never want to see a movie ever again if this is how it gets made this was the weirdest thing I ever this is the weirdest thing I ever saw and like I don't want to watch stuff like that has to get made this way it's like my takeaway my takeaway I was actually reminded of a conversation we had on this show a little while ago was that in order to be an actor you have to be like a genuine psychopath like a mentally ill person because anybody who can sit through what they both just did like touching noses and kissing while also fighting and like in front of people uh seriously it requires such a level of delusion I could I could never no I could never be like holding someone that I don't like smiling at him talking like I just it's not for me are you all and I I guess like if I would have seen, if you, like, I think sometimes I'll look at like scenes in movies and think to myself like, oh, that must have been awkward to film.

26:40And this just proved it's 30 times worse than I ever imagined it would have been. I agree. And I don't, I'll watch documentaries from now on. Like, I don't want to watch people act if this is what it actually is. We need just reality TV. We need just reality TV. Also, have you been seeing the footage from the swing set? Yes, the footage from the swing set was popping off because they were filming out in public during the time of the movie filming. So not to like fuel any rumors, but just to be like, oh my God, how exciting. Like, look, I can see these people. And now all their videos are resurfacing because you can read lips.

27:12And it looks like they're disagreeing about how to push the swing. The swing. Right. And there genuinely is only one way. Yeah. What was his issue with how she was doing it? I don't know. They just, these, like these two people, it was clear they got to a point where they hated each other so fucking much that they were arguing with one another about really inconsequential shit. Like how to push a swing. It's so weird that he's like the director and you disagree with him and then you also have to go and kiss him. So I really just think, sag after, like you should not direct movies that you're also in.

27:41I feel like that's very complicated. The swing, then yesterday I was at the park pushing the swing and I started to think like, am I doing it the right way? Jenny, there's only one way. No, I know, but I couldn't tell like what the problem was. She also like had a lot of hair in her face for like, put your hair up at the playground, okay, first of all. Yeah, let's get to that part of the lawsuit. Like who did the hair? and then second of all it's actually funny when kids are in that bucket swing they do go towards the front forward forward and they're like superman and it doesn't look aesthetically what you think like a baby in a swing should look like but that's actually how they like to swing no not only that it looks hella dangerous like are you about to flop out of this thing because you have one of those swings and the kids when they're smaller it's like the only one that they can get in and it's like the way that they like flip upside down it's like they like to be upside down which isn't they like to look like they don't have any bones like it's not picture perfect for a movie so I feel like she was trying to get the baby to sit up but that's actually the baby's like to be hunched over in there yeah the bucket swing that's so true so it was just like a losing battle at this point in the Blake Lively drama like I feel like I one like have genuinely stopped caring and I think I was really invested for a really long time and felt like I really wanted to defend Blake and I do I I am going to choose to believe that like she what like what she's saying is true that she felt uncomfortable and that she but I feel I've also been beaten into submission by the Baldoni the Baldonators.

29:06Wow they're gonna love to hear this. Yeah no I just like I I'm not willing to die on this cross like this is not my problem like I'm getting so much hate for my Baldoni takes and it's like I didn't even make any money off this movie like what why why am I so sure okay you're all right like please this one I'm actually I've stopped caring so sure sure because you could really argue I see really compelling takes on both sides like I do. Yeah. but my inclination like if I had to you know you know gun to my head I would side with Blake but I but I don't want to talk about it anymore because I'm sick of all the hate I'm getting well I do feel like we're going to be talking about it more and more especially like with the text who knows what's in there by the way I know it's like legal now so the point is like to show the text I just don't love like airing out text messages on a website but it's they're so beyond what is I know at this point um and I just when they're in a when they're in a lawsuit it's different yes of course like when they're like just put on public display to like get people to you know vote in your favor yeah so I but the thing is I really can see how this went so sideways how two strong personalities with a very different idea of what they wanted out of this movie on sensitive subjects were clashing and then things just keep reaching new levels with her husband and then with like then all of a sudden like you're not my friend you're my foe but we're working together you don't get the same access to me that you even got three months ago so when you think that you have that access now you're offending me it's I could see how things like deteriorated so quickly and got into this mess and I I don't I just think it's really like a shame that it's like this this ugly no also when you think about it like how much more there is to come because actually Blake Lively has not released anything or really spoken since that initial complaint ever since then all the news has been things Justin and his team was releasing like his big lawsuit the lawyer going on Megyn Kelly the pictures of them in the basement the voicemail from that night the website now this video Blake actually hasn't like formally rebutted yet so if that's to come which I imagine it is we're really at the very beginning of this which is unfortunate for us because I do feel like every time there's a big update we will talk about it just because it's big um but we're really circling the drain here yeah yeah although like it was a nice window into why being an actor looks like the worst job in the world like seriously i'd rather shovel shit at the circus yeah i'd rather set up chairs on the beach we like to talk at the end of the day there's not enough time in the day for talking one of my favorite like icebreaker questions and i feel like i talk about this all the time is like asking people what's the job in the world that you never want to have and like the classic answers are like shoveling shit at the circus mine has always been like being someone who sets up chairs on a beach at a hotel it's just like so physically laborious and hot and now I need to add to like I really would never want to be an actor except I guess the difference is that like all the jobs I listed before like you're getting paid minimum wage right whereas like it's you're going through torture to go home with like virtually nothing whereas actors like you're going home with millions to be tortured and you know what would you do there's a price yeah maybe it's not the job I'd least likely want to have that's maybe that's dramatic because you also have to money matters you also have to do this acting until you make money like real big money right right right like think of all think of the actors who do this you know for minimum wage yeah they must really love the art of acting and i can't relate to that no either it's so crazy oh are you ready for our next story yeah addison ray is offering fans an update on the state of her friendship with kourtney kardashian oh i didn't know that that's so funny I didn't know where that sentence was going because at first I thought you were just remarking on the fact that she was on she's on the cover of Rolling Stone she's talking about a lot of different things her career and pop and also Courtney so I thought you were going to say the state of her family relationship and then you said her relationship with and I was like oh Charlie D 'Amelio and now I saw Courtney Kardashian right there's so many ways that could have went but I like the route we're taking I think she did speak about Bryce in the interview too but I um I was more interested in the court name so that's so funny I don't even think of Bryce like I don't care I don't think of Bryce but do I look like I think of Bryce kind of do I look I don't even I can't keep those guys apart I don't I don't even really know that she I knew that she dated one you're talking about like the sway boys like Noah Beck is Bryce Hall and Josh who's also BFF so he stands out from the pack yes and I think Noah Beck stands out because I like not to be a freak like I think he's so cute.

33:43He's adorable. I know he's like 11. And Dixie. He's adorable. They're not together anymore but yeah. But then there's that whole group of guys like Bryce and Jaden and Faden and Layden. They lose me at Jaden. Yeah. But then I come back at Lil Huddy. Oh yeah. Yes. Lil Huddy was a part of the Sway crew as well. So lest we not forget moral of the story Addison had dated Bryce in the past. So she was asked about her friendship with Courtney. And she said, she's an amazing friend of mine, amazing mentor and person. We got very fortunate that it ended up working out and I'm very thankful for her. She added that they have very similar interests and temperaments.

34:20I think both of us are very honest people and we like a lot of the same things. It started off with both of us just loving to work out. We were doing that together a lot. She's just a very real person. She's been so helpful to me in every way. She's such a good person to lean on. And then also now, you know, she has a new baby. So I do think their friendship has like, they're just in different places. but I feel like they burned hot and fast but like and now that they're not doesn't mean that they like dislike each other but yeah like Courtney has like new stepkids and a new baby like no and I feel like right after this time with Addison was when Courtney started dating Travis and so yeah when you get a new man and they're so wrapped up doing each other like you don't see your friends as much especially when like the friend was a newer friend but I'm glad to know that there's no bad blood because typically when you're so hot and fast and then you're at zero it's bad blood but I I do feel like Addison like would still call Courtney up for advice.

35:09Yeah. I didn't think anything nefarious. I'm glad that there's not. I think of these two as like seriously just going in different directions with their lives. And like Courtney's very much, I feel like, in a little bit like retirement mode. And Addison's just revving up, you know? Yeah, but also their boyfriends are like friends, right? Who's your boyfriend again? Addison, the drummer. Omar? Yeah, Omar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like rocker boys. They're rocker boys. So I wonder at the holiday party, like if they see each other. and like mgk is there definitely too at the rock holiday party yeah at rock and eve um i'd love to see addison on the cover of rolling stone i feel like that's actually extremely major yeah except the sub headline like there are a few years too late with it it looked like something that could have come out seriously in 2021 when she dropped what did it say it said addison ray the queen of tiktok is coming for pop yeah no it's that's delayed for sure that's a dated headline but it's so major that she's on the cover of rolling stone for somebody who's trying to like break into music it is major for rolling stone i'm happy for them it's like kind of cool of rolling stone like to be cool i'm happy for them they landed at it huge she looked awesome she's so pretty i love her like there's so much that i would ask her honestly before i asked her about kourtney kardashian i think they did ask her a lot of stuff i'm just saying yeah um the queen of tiktok is coming for public she's been here and by the way these days she's not the queen of tiktok the headline is david too and not saying that as like a slight like she left kind of evolved past she literally set the crown down she left the throne she got up and she abdicated wallace david edward david and wallace yeah right wallace was the girl who he left for the girlly the girlly yeah it's giving addison simpson you know addison simpson yeah so i felt like this was like a little bit dated but i'm happy for addison to be coming into pop i was ready for her to be a movie star didn't get my way what can you do you win some you lose remember when Courtney was in that movie that movie was amazing that movie was amazing it was like I remember watching it I think I watched your truth I think I watched it twice in 24 hours like it was so so good like it was so well done for a remake Addison's big moment she crushed it watch it like seriously I'm actually I don't know if it ages well but I remember being so impressed that they pulled that off the funny thing about Addison's music career is that she had obsessed and then she took a ton of time off because like people were clowning on her for it and then this last year she released two songs that like people they could they're so critically acclaimed like the music industry thinks that they are the most and to be honest like I wasn't vibing so much with the new stuff but you play obsessed like and I'm out on the dance floor pussy poppin like you say you're obsessed with me so I took a second and I oh and then wait then she released to die for What is it?

38:13My nails to die for. These are all sex to die for. Oh, I want someone to die for. And that one, like, everybody slept on. And so she took a break. She was like, fuck you bitches. You don't deserve me. And then she just released these two songs that everybody's loving. They're singing some Rat Summer. What's the other song other than Diet Pepsi? Aquamarine. Oh. With that crazy looking music video of her, like, in a dungeon. Like, no, no, she was, like, in an alley. Yeah. I don't watch that. No, but people, like, and I was happy to see them, like, gooping and gagging over Addison because that's our girl but I felt like I'm like you guys like this wait till you hear obsessed yeah yeah it just felt it felt like a little you know overhyped in my opinion yeah but we're sat for what's next we are sat for what's next are you ready for our next story our third story I am real house I think of real housewives of Salt Lake City's Mary Cosby reveals that Rihanna reached out to her after the emotional scene discussing her son's drug addiction This is sort of just like a reality star rite of passage.

39:14You know, you've reached true Bravo upper echelon of like the Bravo liberties. You're different from the others when Rihanna either tags you in a story, references you in an interview, or personally reaches out. Yes, so during a recent interview with Vulture, Mary Cosby revealed who has reached out to her after the show aired an emotional scene where her son Robert Jr. admitted he was addicted to drugs. In addition to her castmates, she said she even heard from the famous singer-turned-business mogul Rihanna. She said, I heard from all the cast. I even heard from Brittany. Lisa Barlow was the only one that didn't reach out.

39:45And that's why I said, I feel like she's the kind of person that is a little bit happy when other people are going through something. But everyone else and even other housewives reached out to me. Even Rihanna reached out to me. I was happy I did it after I received the way people accepted it and loved it. She said about Rihanna, she reached out to us when the show aired and told us she loved us. And then on Christmas Day, she said, Merry Christmas and I love you and Robert Jr. Mary says, I feel like if you can reach people of that caliber, you're doing something right. You know what I mean? No, I'm telling you.

40:12This feels good because I feel like when Mary Cosby came on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City at the very beginning, she was deeply misunderstood. Now, she wasn't doing herself any favors by saying some of the craziest things, like being really mean, you smell like hospital. But I think we saw in her the true magic and potential. And when they fired her, it was a choice. And so for her to now really be seen for the reality star, I think you and I have always known that she is. We have always known when it was not popular. Classic us. um like I I genuinely like I love this for her that scene with Robert Jr.

40:43was like actually Pulitzer worthy it was so real it was so unplanned like I'm sure she didn't know the camera crew was coming over and she was gonna find out her husband or her son had tried heroin like it was so raw but then also did you see Robert Jr. um had like a little bit of like an Instagram drama like a couple of days ago not see he posted an Instagram story that was just like a purple background with some text um calling like the real housewives like sluts like let me find exactly what he said um i'll reserve judgment he took to instagram story he shared anyone asking about my sobriety it's none of your fucking business then he posted a picture of his ceiling fans with the words i love my fans but there's a thing called personal space by the way all these sluts on real housewives of salt lake city are not people to look up to besides my lovely mother just because they're rich doesn't mean they're good people not the sluts like she didn't get the memo that I know it's just like not a word no that's how we're doing RJ that's how we're describing women in mass um so with like holding space for two truths like that was really crazy of Robert Jr I'm just gonna not gonna give him a pass per se but I'm gonna I'm gonna go easy on him because he has been through a lot um and focus more on the Rihanna of it all here it's so funny how like Rihanna has really never wavered in her Bravo stand-up.

42:04She was obsessed with it before. Bravo definitely reached a peak a couple of years ago. Maybe a Skandaval type year. Where everyone was like, Bravo, Bravo, Bravo, oh my god, I love Bravo. And before that, if you were a Bravo fan, it was just a hobby we all picked up and it was not like, it was mainstream, but it wasn't huge. Yeah, but not before Skandaval not being the peak though. Because I would say, but I understand what you're saying, yes. and Rihanna has really been a part of that's why it's always it was always such a big deal like now everyone talks about Bravo but in the beginning when when she was talking about Tom Schwartz and his toothbrush yeah that was like so niche like Vanderpump Rules was a popular show of course but it was not a part of the zeitgeist in the way that it is now and she's really stuck around for so many years like I we don't hear from her for a while and it's like maybe she's moved on from Bravo no no she has not she literally watches everything yeah yeah and like I think now especially when celebrities go and watch what happens live they're like yeah i'm like i love bravo they have like one show that they like but there are certain celebrities like and rihanna's one of them who like from the beginning have watched every single franchise yeah and i forget who was telling me this but like within the certain franchises they know of celebrities like who maybe we don't know but i think they were saying that beyonce i think i was talking like phaedra once loves the real housewives of atlanta and like for them like seriously and beyonce obviously doesn't like call them up like Rihanna does but it's the most thrilling like there's nobody more exciting than it could have been than Beyonce you know yeah so there are a lot of like famous bravo liberties but Rihanna definitely takes the cake yeah she definitely does so I thought that was nice I'm happy for Mary I'm happy for Mary too it's nice to see like everybody propping up Mary because they were hard on her for like and like she did not deserve it but they didn't see in her the potential yeah are you ready for our next story what number four no i'm not ready she's not ready she better get the fourth story that's brought to you by quince it is with the new year comes new wardrobes and new opportunities to reimagine ourselves this year we're looking to refresh our looks with quality pieces but of course staying on budget and now we can thanks to quince so everybody needs quince's items like first of all let me quince like what their business philosophy is because I know we were like why why should I shop for from quince clothes I can get clothes anywhere quince is different because you're buying like really luxury high quality pieces um but they're able to keep their items about 50 to 80 percent less than similar brands so these high-end brands that are selling like beautiful cashmere sweaters quince is going to be selling you the same quality but for way less so they partner directly with top factories and they're cutting out the cost of middlemen and then they pass the savings on to you.

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