Another Year in the Garbage Can: Friday, February 13th, 2026

26:37So maybe she could date Mark Wahlberg. Mark Wahlberg. Yeah. The two of them together with their voices match made in heaven. If they make another Ted, she has to be in it. You know they're making a Ted TV show. It's on Peacock. Thank God I still have my Peacock subscription for the Olympics. Well, she should be in it. I saw a commercial for it. Like it's our boys are back in town. She should voice like Ted's wife. Girlfriend. Yeah. Yeah. Great idea. It's a great idea. Are you ready for our next story? Some really adorable news from like some positive news from Lively V. Valdoni, because the two of them have started court proceedings.

27:11And Blake Lively had her chauffeur fetch her pricey Mahjong set and bring it to her in court on Wednesday. You guys one step closer to Taylor playing Mahjong. Not only that, any hopes that like I would have backed off on being Team Lively are now in the garbage. Yeah, so page six here is that she showed up for court around 8.30 a.m. on Wednesday for a day of mediation in her suit against former co-star Justin Baldoni. And the proceeding got underway at 10 a.m. By 11 a.m., apparently Blake had grown weary of the wheels of justice turning slowly and called for her diversions. We're told that her driver showed up at the door of the courthouse with a mahjong set.

27:48She's previously talked about her mahjong habit. I didn't even know this. Me neither. I have been paying attention in December when she told Vogue, quote, I've been teaching friends how to play mahjong, though I need to say I'm not a certified teacher, but I know enough to teach my friends how to play with me. And in the end, I always end up gifting them my own set because they are obsessed and want to practice. Apparently, she favors sets from Oh My Mahjong, which runs as high as$500. A basic set costs about$25 and an ultra luxe one like by Bruno Cuccinelli is$15 ,000. Oh, somebody better get that for me.

28:19Yeah. A friend of ours was telling us that like for a birthday gift, her husband got her the Hermes Mahjong set. And it's like literally impossible to play with. It's all like, it's beautiful, like wooden. It has no numbers on it. It's all like authentically in Chinese. Unless you speak Chinese, you can't use it. Oh, wow. Yeah. No, I love a Mahjong set. Okay. And I know. She just busts the case wide open. Who does she play with in court though? Well, so I imagine like you bring a support system with you. Like we just saw her getting out of the car. That's true. A lot of people noted that Ryan wasn't there.

28:47I think it's better that he wasn't. And I do like think he's a distraction. And right now they're both so unlikable. Like them together in the same room is just like bad for PR. And I think a lot of people are like, she's not doing it seriously. Like this is serious. I imagine there's a lot of downtime during these proceedings. Oh, is that what people saying about the mahjong? I imagine. Like, are you having your chauffeur fetch your mahjong? This is a serious court about sexual harassment. And it's like, yeah, but this is also just like a real life thing she has to go through. And so, yeah, mahjong is an amazing way to pass the time.

29:13Yeah. Like they should have mahjong rooms in every airport. Honestly, it sounds fun. Yeah. No wonder why she's like not in a rush to end this thing. I just want to say like when all is said and done and this court case is over, whoever like wins, right? I do think like Blake Lively should compensate me for my like steadfast belief in her with a gifted mahjong set. Like if it doesn't show up in my P.O. box, like I'm going to be upset. Yeah. Because I've taken a lot for her. Well, and she can make it really nice like the flowers from the press tour. I don't think she ever wants to remember those flowers.

29:44Like I think she's probably triggered by flowers now. Like she was trying to be thoughtful with her costumes and she got called like a woman hating. I think the Bams would maybe be like locks of hair because of her Blake Lively. Oh, Blake Brown. Well, let's talk about the Luke's. So we got paparazzi pictures of both her and Justin entering the courthouse, obviously totally separately. But this is a very high profile case. And unfortunately, like what she wears is going to be talked about. I was obsessed with her outfit. She looked great. She looked stylish, but not flashy. No. And that has been like a big point of discussion.

30:16If she dressed any differently than how she normally dresses, it would look like she's faking and trying to put on a show. So I think she really nailed it. And her hair looked insane. Yeah. Let me see. Turn around. This is like the green suit. Yeah. It's very cool. Yeah, it is. And then he was matching her. Now I know I'm very being stereotypical. We're not supposed to care. Who are you wearing? Yeah. But for me, these things matter. And so, so far, between the outfits, the mahjong, I'm sad. She's winning in my book. Yeah, I'm sad. Just the first week. Just for like the superficial thing. Also, apparently they went to mediation, like to try and see if they could settle it.

30:49You know, they really should. They really should. That's what I've been saying the whole time. And they couldn't. Do you think that Justin wants media wants to settle? Because this actually has been good for him. The more things come out, like nobody is turning on Blake. I actually I could say he is getting he's improving as the case. This is good for him. He doesn't want to settle. She, I think, has so much to prove that if she settles now, she settles. She only has what to gain. So I actually think neither of them want to settle. Yeah. Like Justin should just take the W and go. But she would have to agree to that.

31:24Yeah, I know. But you're saying she's the one who's not. Wouldn't she want this nightmare to end? I think they are both not. Okay. When they both need to be are. And so this is in New York? Yes. At the Daniel Patrick Moynihan Courthouse. Oh, I've been there many times. It's beautiful. Have you? I guess I have because I've done jury duty. Are there not multiple courthouses? yeah I've been to 60 Center Street that's like the one that's where you get your marriage license like and like Pearl Street Pearl yes Chinatown Pearl Pearl I had not been to that courthouse um so yeah I actually quite enjoyed like this part of the court everything has been so dark and so like unfun yeah that this was I'm sorry fun and the mahjong it was very interesting it was do you think she taught Taylor how to play before the the Bragus no because I'm telling you if Taylor played Mahjong, we would know.

32:13Did you see the video of Donna Kelsey being TMZed outside the airport? No. It was such a funny and lovely conversation. The guy was like, you're a celebrity now. You go on reality shows as yourself, not just as someone's mom or whatever. She was like, no, I'm really not. And then she talked about traitors and it's clear that she was like, they didn't know how to film me. She kind of was saying, not in a bad way, she was very smiley the whole time, really lovely. She said it was just something that she wanted to do, but they didn't know what to do with her. That's what she said. What did they have to do with her?

32:41Like, why can't she just. I think because she couldn't do the challenges. Yeah.

32:47And because they, spoiler alert, like made her that dumb secret traitor. They put her in like a terrible spot. So she was like, it was fun. But like, I could have stayed longer. You have to watch the video. It was weird. And then they were asking her what she'll dance to with Travis at the wedding. And she was like, she was very open. She was like, I danced with Jason at his wedding to like a song from the Bee Gees, Love Shack or something like that. So maybe something like that. Maybe like Mark Anthony, do you think? Yeah. and then the interviewer who was really lovely by the way it was like a very positive paparazzi experience and donna was with a friend who was like cracking up at everything donna was saying then the final question was like you know did they make you sign an nda for all the wedding stuff and donna was like oh no they know i can keep a good secret bye thanks like it was a great interaction as the secret trader you right secret trader can keep a secret not really if i was taylor and i saw donna's time on traders i would have had that my lawyer like putting the agreement together they're not gonna make her sign an nda no no no i'm saying like what a silly question i don't know taylor's like very very private i'm sorry no i mean that's a quick way to become like a daughter-in-law that you hate nicola yeah literally are you ready for our next story it's some exciting tv news dancing with the stars sets a spin-off series to find their next pro and robert irwin is eyed to host it oh so dancing with the stars is getting the glee project a competition show Dancing with the Stars the next pro it will feature up and coming professional dancers who will live in a house together and compete in a grueling audition process the winner will land a coveted spot as a pro dancer on the next season of Dancing with the Stars this is like very smart yeah and they're saying that Robert Irwin will host it well they love to promote from within like Alfonso was a contestant who's now the host of the show they love to like create talent which I think is so smart they're literally like an incubator and there is this like a lot of people watch Dancing with the Stars and then a smaller but you know still big amount of people are obsessed with the pros like the culture who dates who the history i personally don't give a fuck but there are like those are the people who like go to the tour yeah so there's a real built-in audience for it and yeah the glee project the glee project i think this is a great idea it takes a lot to be a pro as we saw they thought they did to yawn what do you think it's going to be hulu uh it is going to be on abc and hulu it says i can't yeah i can't see this being like on cable this is on abc and hulu i know i just can't say being on cable why like i don't know to me reality shows that says to air over the summer i think it's like summer is a lull yeah they just air like weird shit i just like i think of like just like to me reality shows that air on cable with commercials are so old school like they're not the future like the bachelor yeah also mark ballast is being eyed to judge along with his mother shirley ballast who is um a dancer known as the queen of latin wait that's so cute i didn't know that yeah a lot of like personalities to choose from you know you I think I should get to judge even though I don't know him.

35:31I just know that he's like nasty. Let me think. Like someone who's nasty in dances. In the world of Dancing with the Stars. It's not like that crazy. Like Maxim? Of course, yeah. He would be the Simon. Yeah, they need that, by the way. They need that. That's a great call. Bring Maxim. Oh, yeah. And then they have like also like, you know, pros who have sunsetted who are still really influential and big in that. Like they have a ton of people to choose from when it comes to like all. So this is very smart. It's like making use of the talent. Although I did see like, cause I follow a lot of the pros on TikTok.

36:04Like that's where it goes down. And a lot of them were like hyping up this big announcement, big announcement. I saw people were like a little disappointed. Like this is the announcement. I think this is a great announcement. What were they hoping for? Like another tour? I don't know. Yeah. Like, yeah, but no, I think this is cool. No, I love this. Do they have a name for the show? Is it called the dance project? It's called Dancing with the Stars, the next pro. Okay. I don't love it. It's like a little chewy, but it's fine. It is chewy. What about America's Next Top Dancer? Yeah. Love. Dancing with the next pro.

36:32Dancing with the pros. Yeah. That sounds like a reality show about the pros. I'd love that too. Yeah. No, this is a good idea. This is a good idea. I'm happy for Mark that he's going to get more work after Traders. Because if that was like the worst thing he ever did, I don't want to talk about Traders yet because it's like a... Except you see when he shut the door and twirled after. Oh, that's funny. When I tell you, I was watching with half an eye last night. I know, and I was shocked that I saw it. I was like, wow, usually I miss stuff like that. He came back from the challenge, and he shut the front door.

37:02And sashayed. Turned. Obsessed. That's the most he's given. I was like, that's the Mark we know. And he talked about dancing at the round table. Right. About having a partner that you can trust. I'm like, he's like, in my sport, I'm like, what are you? Who are you? Yes, but okay, love that relevant work experience. Yes, no, I agree. And then he made a relevant good point, and I was like, thank you, Mark, for your contribution. Try doing it more. Let's not talk about Traders yet, because it is a gateway drug, and I don't want to spoil anything. but I'm just thinking what other shows that could you give the Glee Project treatment to?

37:30Like Finding the Next Housewife where you put a bunch of women in a house. That would be so scary. Kind of a good idea. That would be scary. Yeah. I love this. I love it. Toasty Lion perhaps. Well, let's see how it goes. Yeah, but for ideas. It's a great idea. Are you ready for our next story? Whatever. Our fourth story. Yeah. We spoke about this at the top of the show, but popular baby care brand Frida Baby is facing backlash over inappropriate marketing campaigns. Okay. So some posts are going viral in the last few days about Frida Baby, some screenshots of their products. Just sorry to cut you off.

38:07Anybody who doesn't know what Frida Baby is, it is a company. It's like a cool millennial company. It is the premier brand for baby products and for postpartum products for women. They make everything. If you had a baby and you need something from a nail clipper to a bath to a thermometer, big things, little things, they make one of everything and their shit is really good. Yeah. I don't want to like make this an endorsement for them, but I think what's so shocking about this is not just like a baby brand. Whatever they make something, it is the best in category. That fucking nail clipper, you guys, like it's insane.

38:34The three-in-one baby bath. Love that. The nose sucker. The undies, like the postpartum diapers. Oh, the postpartum kit. The squeegee bottle. Perineal. Perineal bottle. like everything so this is like an industry that's kind of archaic like you know the baby nail clipper has been the same since and they make one that's a little bit different and 55 times better like what they've done for mothers can't be understated no i just think it's before we drag them everything that they make is better no that's why it's destabilizing for the mama community it's not like oh i'm just gonna boycott this random baby brand it's like these are the best product you can't boycott it like if you need to live yeah but let's tell everyone what happened so a couple posts and product packaging are resurfacing no so what happened was they posted something on Instagram about a rectal thermometer.

39:16Yes. And that's what set the whole thing off. Now people are going back at all their packaging. But this Instagram caption really rubbed people the wrong way for good reason. Obviously, it's a rectal thermometer. When you take a baby's temperature, you don't put it in their mouth. You don't put it in their ear. You put the temperature in their tushy for like the most accurate reading. They make a great one. I have it. And the caption that they posted to promote this product was suspicious. It says, this is the closest your husband's going to get to a threesome. Meet the new three-in-one true temp thermometer, the Swiss Army knife of temperature taking accuracy.

39:46Then here are a few more reasons to love it. We've got options, rectal, underarm or oral, light for the end of the tunnel, parent proof stopper so you don't stick it in too far. Then along with that, people started finding other posts that had like, you know, inappropriate, not even questionable. We can just say straight up inappropriate marketing. And then also their product packaging. It's always been like quippy. And yeah, like supposed to be different. Right. Like I said, they're like a new age millennial. This is like an archaic industry. And they were such a disruptor because they made, you know, all the best baby products in pargy packaging and funny captions.

40:22And they like definitely took it too far. Yeah. And so like here, this is I don't know what this is like a pacifier or something. It says I'm a power sucker. There's another one of a forehead touchless thermometer. it says how about a quickie and then another one for a um what is it oh this is like a humidifier or something it says I get turned on easily oh my god no it's all disgusting and there's more and more and more I can't believe we've never noticed something like this I know I guess I'm not like looking in hindsight it's like well yeah it's all weird and it just took this one Instagram caption to get people to talk about it I think when it comes to like baby products baby some people are really like it's funny or whatever I don't think you can really ever take it too seriously like or be too extreme in how careful you are um and there's a difference between like being like a funny company they're like you know saying funny things versus being anything even remotely sexual when it comes to kids like sorry no like i call me i'm woke you know like i'm so cancely with this like get out of here with that agreed some of the instagram captions have been archived they're from 2020 and 2021 they reportedly include terms such as threesome and lube then people uh identified current team members listed on the company's website they all had like quotes about like being parents those were also weird and now the team page was removed from the site it's giving balenciaga the difference is that like this is a company like balenciaga was weird but it was like a company for adults like you're making things for kids if you find yourself you're writing a piece of copy that even remotely could be interpreted as like sexual Well, delete.

41:56Like, what's wrong with people? I don't know. And this seems to be, like, their strategy. I need to now look at everything in my house. Because I think a lot of them are, like, do, you know, hit the nail on the head. No, no, no. And, like, they get it right, you know, about, like, whatever, gas or whatever. They make, like, little jokes. About farts, yeah. I don't read the packaging that intently, like, or think about it. No, when I get coming from Freedom, I'm obviously in a state of distress. And I'm, like, tearing it open to take the temperature. But seeing this all, like, spelled out like this, like, it's disgusting.

42:23And I also think that there's probably a difference between like the product team and the marketing team for a company like this. Like there's people who make great products for babies and then they hire these packaging experts. Yeah. And these experts are disgusting. Yeah. And they need a change of experts. Yeah. No. And I'm as a mom and I know that they make the best of everything. But like and you literally bought me something Frida yesterday. I did. I bought myself something Frida yesterday. Right before we saw this because I wouldn't have bought it. The thing is. Until there's a change in the company.

42:50I'm sorry. This is disgusting. It's disgusting, but I really don't feel like I should have to suffer. Like, do you know that until I found that nail clipper, I was making Ruby bleed every time. So I'm not going to make Ruby bleed just to take moral high ground. But having said that, now that you have your nail clipper. Oh, we're good. No, in case I misplace it, like I will be replacing it. And you will misplace it. No, but I'm saying, Frida, do better for real. And they're also the ones that did the breast milk ice cream. And that was weird. It was weird. At the time, I didn't think it was like.

43:20they did a collab with like van lewin or whatever making ice cream or i don't know if it was ice cream they like paid a bunch of influencers like yeah i was mad because they paid a bunch of influencers i mean they didn't pay me when i was actively breastfeeding it's like well support mothers like i have the people that they worked with weren't even mom like have nothing to do with let alone i'm here bleeding out breastfeeding and you can't even pay me that's why i was upset but when you think about it like why are you what are we eating eating breast milk it's weird yeah obviously everything in hindsight now like feels weird um because it is at the time i think i maybe even report about it i can imagine thinking like oh yeah they're celebrating breast milk but now like putting it all together paints a different picture it's very yucky and there was like a boob on the container yeah it's weird i just think you can't be ever too sensitive around these things no there's no such thing as being too cautious you should have so many systems in place that nothing like this can ever happen no but this seems to be the point this isn't like oh we fucked up yeah we this we didn't see it that way sorry like this seems to be the intent yeah my pitchfork is out like i'm being yeah i'm being i want i want heads to roll yeah no i need people fired and like i need names yeah which we never get um but i do need some change in leadership one thing about like a community to piss off like you don't want to piss off the mamas and not in this way like this is the worst thing you could do especially given in the current climate.

44:44And I feel like people like to act like Balenciaga has bounced back, but I know in my heart that it hasn't. Only within celebrities. And like maybe yes, over time when all these celebrities are wearing it. Like I saw, oh, you know what? I literally saw, who was it? It was someone's kid wearing a Balenciaga bag. I'm like, yucky, like a celebrity kid. I can't remember who it was. The celebrities are like back full force. And I know there has been like a change in designer, but like I don't feel like ever like accountability was really truly taken. No, there was no accountability. and the mamas don't forget.

45:13No, the mamas don't forget. And so like, this is really bad. Yeah. I'm really icked out. And I'll be looking at my Frida products differently. I know. Still using them though. And I'll be thinking, yeah, the ones I already own, I'm not like - Yeah, because I won't suffer. I'm not giving them new money. Like me and my family won't suffer. No, but when the time comes to give new money, like I am going to look for another brand on the show. I'm going to read the packaging. Oh, for sure. Yeah. And I'm going to be following this closely to hear any statement from Frida Self. Yeah. We're not going to let this go.

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49:18And now like it slipped. He's stealing her moment. She has said that if she ever got engaged, she wanted it to be when she won. Yeah. And so he's just doing what she asked, like leave her alone. She said this is what she wanted. And it's also like, yeah, she won gold, but she doesn't know if her man's going to propose. So like you can't just like say, do it here. You still have to play the game of like, is he or isn't he? I mean, also like, no wonder she won gold. Like the potential of getting engaged, that will propel a woman forward. I agree. Do you think that you can get engaged if you won silver or bronze?

49:49No, I really don't. I don't think you should. Yeah, like you lost. No, you didn't. And then there's also a Taylor Swift element here. She commented with some lyrics from the alchemy Because that little proposal He gave her this little thing that said Who are we to fight the alchemy Which is all about being in love while also being an athlete Who are we Touchdown got the amateurs And we're on the winning team So it was very It was very It was athletic And so she commented Which is just as exciting as getting engaged Honestly maybe more Yeah Taylor's really loving the Olympics she's just a girl yeah and she still has her peacock subscription from watching her mother what do you mean she's loving the olympics what else she also made a video for the women for the olympic team like saying like go get them okay swag goats goats get them goats gonna go she just made like a testimony of it honestly looked like a cameo of her being like go team usa you guys have worked so hard you know so sweet yeah and now she's following this closely i love that she's literally just a girl and like she doesn't go to work every day right i'm sure she i'm sorry she works every day but she doesn't go to nine to five so i imagine she does have like big chunks in her day to fill with time while she's like off tour so and i imagine the olympics is like you know the venn diagram of taylor and travis it's like the olympics is in the middle of the game watch together yeah in addition to love is blind which by the way is like coming back we have to watch okay i find love is blind it's it's literally a factory now do you know what i mean i could not name one person besides sparkle megan from the last season okay but i just want you to know Sparkle Megan has given me more than anything has given in a while.

51:25I find Love is Blind to be a factory and I'm so over it but sometimes I'll start the season with everyone and of course it turns out to be a season that no one's watching and I'm recapping it and nobody cares. Then sometimes I'm like, you know what? I'm not doing it and it's like the banger season so I'm just going to see. I don't see really anyone talking about it. Can I say something that's going to lead into our next subject which is traitors? I feel that way about traitors. If we weren't watching it, like we would be have everyone's talking about you have to watch traitors. It's amazing. And I'm watching it last night.

51:56And I really and I'm not not enjoying myself. But objectively, it's not very good. So I agree with you today. And I think that last night was the first time I felt that way. Now spoilers will be watching it. I'm excited to recap it. But I was also watching with Zach who's only watched a couple episodes with me. So I was sort of like sensitive to how he might be feeling about the show. And I'm like a little embarrassed because it's very stupid and and not good well I have only felt that way starting last night up until last night every episode I watched I'm on the edge of my seat me and Ben talking about how this is the best show ever made like Michelangelo could never and last night Ben and I were watching like Larry half on our phones it was such a bad episode especially when they opened the episode and I was just saying yesterday how quite literally Dorinda is the only person on the show I'm like even remotely familiar with and I guess I'm rooting for her no and I she wasn't even on the episode last week we were toggling between rooting for Dorinda or Steven no and literally the two remaining people on the show who I was remotely familiar with and like kind of liked are gone.

52:51We are left. And it's exactly what you said when we first started recapping the show is that it seems like anyone who stands out, who has a personality, who goes for things is punished for that. That's exactly what happened. We are left with the six most unremarkable people. Sorry. And the herd and the people who aren't really thinking critically, who are no threat to the traitors because they're so off the mark. And now people are like, well, Kristen figured it out. There's no one left. There's like six people left and apparently they don't even know how many traitors technically there are. So like her looking at Eric, it's like, well, it only took you 11 round tables.

53:25You have to, there's six people left. We all have to look at each other and you're actually not looking at the one mastermind. The one. It's really insane what Rob has done. Like I know people are saying he's a villain, whatever. It is remarkable the game he has played. Alan Cummings was on Watch What Happens Live and somebody asked like, who's the best traitor he said rob is the best player i've ever seen in the entire game i will now that i am like moved on from the last two episodes with renan and candace and like i'm back to the game and just like watching the game um and my feelings are no longer involved yes i can agree that rob is a great traitor i think the game is flawed in a number of ways one it rewards the least interesting most boring uh worst game players because they stick around because they are bad um and there needs to be a way for traders to not turn on traders because then you can be you can turn on your trader immediately you get a trade that's an easy way to win it's an easy so crack the code i don't think anybody's ever done that before he definitely cracked some sort of there needs to be an incentive for the traders to win together they have they should have to look out for one another because yeah it was like he just threw them under the bus easy peasy lemon squeezy yeah i don't even know what to recap except was anyone else so confused by that challenge like i was not following it at all yeah some of the challenges are so confusing actually a lot of them are and when they explain the rules i feel like you when someone explains a game to you you're just like okay yeah they're not really for me but you got less um less physical challenges yes yes my that box was giving me pit like i could never yeah it's funny tara and johnny's friendship was really put through the winger this episode not only that um when they like said their big reveal like first of all you could hear a pin drop nobody cared the fact that they kept it the secret this entire time was so like lame maybe it would have been a good idea um if things had panned out differently but them sharing that to an audience of three people quite literally who were not shocked and didn't care no one just said oh so you're liars okay yes rob was right like them saying it now to what benefit i'm not sure except now that everyone knows that you're capable of keeping a big secret well and they were able to save themselves for one more day i do think rob should save both of them because it looks like they both might be traitors like if so if one of them gets out it's like, well, Tara's fine because Johnny was not.

55:36Yeah. So they should work hard to keep them both. Who do you think that they killed at the end? Who did they have to choose between? They had Kristen. Oh, I think Natalie. I think they find. Rob should have Kristen go because Kristen said, if I get sent home, it was Eric. Yeah. So he's just like, his game plan has been working, which is throwing his readers under the bus. But he did let Eric know that. Oh, this was just the first time. Yeah, I know. So he's not going to let. Right. So he's not doing the canvas. This was the first time, though, that I feel like something kind of nobody noticed it, of course, but maybe they'll look back.

56:07The Rob thing with the double dagger. Natalie being like, you have to tell everyone. It was kind of a bad look for him. Like, I don't really understand why he kept it. And then being like forced to tell it from Natalie under distress. Like, it's giving liar. But also, why did Natalie need him? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe if they send home Natalie, they would look back at that. But they just think Natalie is a stronger player than she is and that she'll figure it out, which she won't. Yeah. But I guess out of the people who are still there, she's the biggest threat because she's the smartest.

56:37I guess. So who's up for killing? Natalie, Kristen, Tara Johnny. Natalie, Kristen, Tara Johnny. Yeah. They're not going to kill Tara Johnny. They shouldn't. And that would be dumb. Right. And I don't care about the others. If he wants to throw Eric under the bus, sure, get rid of Kristen. But I don't think he already told Eric that. So they're not going to do it. I think they're going to kill Natalie. but there's so much suspicion on natalie that's the other thing like it's a good distraction but there's no suspicion on kristen no but she then it leads everyone to eric so that's a good another distraction kristen like let people keep splitting the vote over natalie johnny and tara no natalie has pretty much gotten out of like out from under the suspicion like she was in the hot sea for a little bit with the the antidote but people seem to believe that she's not a traitor I loved Stephen's speech being like, you blew it.

57:23Like you blew it. Yeah. He literally told everyone. I'm a fucking faithful. It was such bad evidence too. And how does nobody to this day know how to spell his name? I understood like in the beginning they were spelling Portia's name wrong, but Candace, they spend everyone's name wrong. But why, when would they ever learn the spelling? I don't know. Is somebody going to tell them? No, I think that's like part of the game. It is funny. There should be an award, like an extra bonus money at the end if there was a contestant who spelled everyone's name right. Yeah. I love Steven. I think the show has been so good for him.

57:54I don't know what he's doing in his personal life right now, but I hope him and Kristen get back together. And the thing is, like, he is that guy. Yeah. He's been that guy since high school. He was such a... He's even better than that. The show was so good for him. He was the only one who stood up for Ron. He played, like, an honorable game. He never threw anybody under the bus. He was always letting the girls get the shields and the girls go up the hill first. Like, this was a great... I'm sure he doesn't have a hard time, like, catching tail. But like spread him. Yeah. He's such a cutie. And he's so he's aging so beautifully.

58:22Yeah, he is. Handsome, handsome boy. No, they're all just like looking at each other and they don't like feel, you know, they feel like, oh, I don't feel like it's Johnny. I don't feel like it's her. I don't feel like it's Steven or whatever. No one has said the name Rob. Look at someone else. What we're doing is we're getting. And why doesn't anyone look at Mark? Or Maura. Oh, and Maura's like such a stereotype. Like she's so blinded by love. Like they're all like nobody's thinking of Rob. It's definitely like a male privilege thing. Like he's playing it really well, but also like he's a tough guy.

58:51He's going to protect us. Maura's just like, okay, Rob. Like she's in love with him. Yeah, but she's also like he's also the only person who she knew going into it. So that's like Tara and Johnny would be like if one of them were a traitor. And I wonder if one of them had been a traitor, what they would have done. That would have been interesting. They probably would have like had a mental breakdown, like trying to keep it from their best friend. Yeah. But why doesn't anyone look at Mark? Like, why do they just assume Mark is a faithful? And can I ask people who watch the previous seasons? Is it always this, like, I feel like the climax is really in the beginning, like finding out who the traitor is.

59:26And with each episode, it gets less and less climactic. Is that just this season in particular? Or is that just a thing with the show? And also, unless you are the traitor who wins, it's actually kind of embarrassing to win, to go all the way to the end. You look so stupid. Even people who are smart. It's just a hard thing to figure out. No, it just means that like nobody found you threatening. Yeah. Smart or interesting enough to eliminate earlier on. Yeah. Because if we have, if we get the Faithfuls winning and it's like Mark, sorry, I'm not going to go on Mark. Mark, Kristen, Maura, and Natalie.

1:00:01Okay, but I'm thinking of last year because I remember when they were on Watchtrap Inside, like it was Dorinda, Zac Efron, and Gabby Wendy. No, it wasn't. Dorinda got out night one. Oh. Oh, sorry, not Dorinda. Dolores. Sorry. No. I don't think it was. Dolores, I think, was a traitor. It was Gabby Whitney, Dylan Efron, Dylan, Lord Mountbatten, and a fourth. I remember when we found out that four people weren't traitors. We were like, what kind of fucking show was this? But thank God, if we had to wait three more extra weeks. Yeah, I know. Okay. Let me see if it was Dolores. Maybe not. I just remember her being on Watch Revenge Live.

1:00:39Because she was on... Oh, no, she won. She won. Okay. Good for her. But they were all faithfuls. The last main traitor was Brittany Haynes. They were all faithfuls. All faithful victory. Okay, I won't spoil any further seasons just in case I decide to watch. Let's also talk about The Real Hot Spies of Beverly Hills, which was also kind of a dud of an episode, but the dichotomy of both dinners was cracking me up. That turnt dinner and Erica finding out in real time that she wasn't invited to the Hamptons. Why did Rachel only invite Kyle and Dorit? Because they needed a night out and she's trying to get them back together?

1:01:08I guess. I wanted it to be a big group trip. No, even if it wasn't, I understand her inviting to read, but like I don't really she doesn't like Kyle. Like, I don't know why she invited her. It looks like they're having the best time, like just Donna Karan. Like it was so everything. And cutting to this like extremely weird dinner when they're all like manifesting in journals. And I didn't even know that other girl there. Like it was so weird. It was. I want to say about that dinner. Maybe I didn't watch as closely as I needed to, but I'm not really with Sutton. I kind of am feeling for Amanda in this one situation of like she didn't really bring up this like Kyle drove that conversation with her about Dorit saying too much then she went to Kathy's house and recounted that conversation and said she didn't recount it she regurgitated it as her own thought and that's why Sutton told Dorit she never said she didn't say that's what Kyle said okay don't you guys feel like this is bad for her marriage and son's like who the fuck are you I'm actually so team Sutton okay I just feel like when Amanda said like you're teaching me how to clean up this mess that you made I'm like yeah well that's the show sorry show a little bit but it just made me feel like oh this is a little stupid like it is I'm gonna tell someone what you said I'm gonna also tell you how to fix it and it's like what if you just never told them what I said because I just like was sharing an innocent thought with you in the real world yes but in housewives world like but in housewives we need something a little more thick than that yeah I can't stand Amanda like I just hate her and I'm not saying that I love her or anything but in that moment I'm like this is like pretty stupid what we're talking about yeah but and that she's going to be taken to task and that she nobody can move on unless she's like cops to it like cops to what saying something that everybody else has said and as a viewer like i am feeling a little bit it's a little like and i love to read so much but i'm worried just like kyle said like i'm worried that she's saying too much this isn't good to say on national television when you're in the middle of like active tense negotiations i think they really want you to like suspend disbelief and just like imagine this is like a normal group of friends and this random new girl who's like rubbing people a bad way saying it as like her own thought like yeah she can go back and forth with kyle kyle has earned a right to comment this random girl who she's actually at that point had met twice has no right to make any sort of commentary whether she thinks she's being helpful or not i just also can't fucking stand her no i know um also let's talk about the mauricio dinner which was really weird like any hopes for them to having an affair is out the window i don't know it's just like frustrating when someone's saying a and someone's saying b like which one is it yeah like was their term sent or not did you get a google spreadsheet the sort of friend that mauricio is to pk is the sort of friend that kyle is supposed to be being towards dorit kyle and her confessionals is so nasty about like i she acts like a she doesn't act great in front of dorit but her confessionals are so nasty like so quippy for no reason yeah um because she's holding her tongue in front of dorit because she's been told that that's what she should do that she shouldn't express god forbid she be supportive she can't be supportive so she has to be quiet.

1:04:03Because in her heart she's not supportive and I don't care what Mauricio says what P.K. says what Kyle says is true like I just know what's going on and that it's Dorit is holding everything together and P.K. is out globetrotting and then comes home and says at 3 a.m. I want to see the kids and she's like you can't see the kids and then he says she won't let me see my kids and it's like they're sleeping. No I know that Kyle and Mauricio are like claim they have proof that negates everything she says but I believe Dorit. No I just know. She's home with the kids she has the stories about her dad Just believe Dorit.

1:04:33No, she's the one like keeping them on their schedule. And the fact that Kyle, who's also going through a divorce of her own, and just as like a woman who's been around other women who have gone through divorces, the fact that her first instinct isn't to defend Dorit. Sometimes like maybe her first instinct would be to believe Dorit, and then she starts hearing things and maybe she starts chatting. No, from the get-go last season, she just does not believe Dorit. Yeah, I've seen people speculate that like, you know, this is sort of keeping her in Moe tight. And like her being on his side might help her favor in his eyes.

1:05:02Also, I think even at the Hamptons thing when they're like, we're all divorced. And she's like, I'm separated. She refuses. I think she's just still holding on. And she doesn't want to be in this like basket of divorce scorned women with Dorit. And so she's like, no, I'm over here. Everything's copacetic. Dorit, you're wrong. No, so true. Loving Rachel Zoe. I have to say that every recap. Loving. Whose house was that in the Hamptons? Not hers. I thought it was hers. Just interesting. Like even her packing. Like I just everything about her is fascinating. No, just like watching her. She's like just her hair.

1:05:34Yep. It's so shiny. Her sister look exactly like. Oh, I didn't see her sister. That was her sister. Yeah. They're at the friend's house and then the sister was there waiting for them. The blonde one. God, I must have missed. I think her name is Pamela. Or maybe that was the friend. I must have looked down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like a boring episode. Erica's commentary was cracking me up. And I just I can't keep like going over this point about the Amanda and who said it. And like just drop it and move on and let's find something new to argue. Agreed. We'll find something quickly. Because it's just not that, like, it's not that, it's not big enough to be multiple episodes.

1:06:04The trailer that we got was for the remainder of the season. It's a little scary. Dorit and Erica fighting. Dorit versus everyone. And I feel like that's going to make Kyle feel, like, so vindicated. But, like, Kyle's so wrong. Well, Dorit, like, is in a bad, like, she has so much going on that she can't help but make every conversation about herself. She can't help but relate everything back to herself. Because, like, that's what's going on. Like, how can she be any other way? I imagine it's exhausting as her friend at a certain point. but like that's what is she gonna show up and pretend like she didn't just have the worst fucking day the walking away with the cigarette in the corset oh the italy trip looks good they look a good trip i feel like rachel and bows will continue to have dorit's back i did not like what appeared to be dorit and erica fighting well that's sort of been like an undercurrent is that erica is a real moral compass like she's not super involved anymore but she gives it to everyone straight um and she like refuses to hold kyle accountable in the least but she's so excited to do it for everyone else.

1:06:53It's like annoying. If you're going to be like an impartial moral compass, you got to come for everyone. And she doesn't. Yeah. Let's do Queenie of the Weenie to wrap up the week. Okay, Queenie and Weenie is our final segment of the week where Jackie and I give out two awards. Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week. Don't take it personally. If you acted like a Queenie this week, you might be Queenie of the Week. And if you acted like Weenie of the Week, you might be a Weenie this week. Side week deal, seven day title. You could be Queenie one week and Weenie the next. You know how it goes.

1:07:13What do you want to do first? Queenie. We always start with the positive. Okay. My queenie is Utah. My queenie is also Utah. I wrote Jenta, but I meant Utah. Agreed. Jenta is how you spell it. Judah. No, I wrote J-U-N-T-A. Oh. So in case you're looking at mine thinking like I copied you. No, I just have a type of. Jenta means Utah. Yes, exactly. Utah leardom, one gold. She can finally, you know, celebrate that. Move. Get married. Get married. Have babies. Like, I'm so, so happy for all her hard work that we watched on Pro American. Very full circle for us, too. Very full circle for the viewers.

1:07:49Like, it was just amazing. Happy for the Dutch, the Vanderthals. Yes, me as well. My weenie of the week is Olympics coded as well. And it brings me to a story I've been dying to tell you. Oh, OK. OK. Why didn't you add it to our bonkers Olympic news segment? Because I had already had it for my weenie. Oh, were you nervous every time I brought up the Olympics? No, I know you have no idea what I'm about to say. Because my weenie of the week is a French woman named Jezebel Duois. Do you know her? No, but I love for that name. So I'm sure you know Chalk and Bates, the figure skating duo, man and woman, like really the leading figure skaters for America.

1:08:22They're a married couple there. She is gorgeous. He is super cute. They're like kind of the it couple this year. And it was just a matter of time before they won. And a couple of nights ago, it was their final dance. And they came in second to a clearly subpar couple from France. Now, OK, people, you know, it's sports. Very sad. Some people win. Some people lose. But there is like a bit of a scandal going on thanks to a woman named Jezebel Dubois. Now, how it works in figure skating is there's a delegation from each country that gives a score for each competitor. So I think there was like eight countries competing, U.S., France, Italy, all of them.

1:08:58And each of the judges was from each country. Now, it should be – I now have a problem with the scoring because from your country, you shouldn't be able to vote. Whatever. but jazabel dubois of france gave the americans such a low score eight points lower than um the french couple and much lower than all the other judges like for the most part all the other judges like a couple of points max four theirs was eight points lower because she cheated like it's first of all it's such a flawed system i didn't even realize that's how people were voting Like you shouldn't be able to give a score to your own delegation.

1:09:41She gave them eight points higher. It's like everyone has a vested interest. So people are going to be shady. They came in second when they clear like the other, the French team like was fucking up. Like they were not the winner at all. Then there's also drama with the man. He's like has some like allegations like just bad. Jezebel Dubois, like if the Olympics don't have integrity, nobody does. Like it's supposed to be. I didn't realize they were so subjective. Yeah. And I realized that they were to some degree subjective, like for the judging of like skating and gymnastics. Right. It's more. It is.

1:10:10It's not like you scored a point. Yeah. Right. But that they could be like so willy nilly. Jezebel Dubois. Say her name. Jezebel Dubois. I would love to say that name. Jezebel Dubois. And of course her name is Jezebel. What a Dubois. Acting like true to her namesake. Like Allison Dubois. Of course. Your figure skater will never emotionally fulfill you. Jezebel Dubois. Who's your weenie? My weenie. I'm remiss to name them weenie I fear they might like it too much is Frida Baby Frida Baby is the weenie of the week That's beautiful That's our show you guys Thank you so much for listening to the Toast and Melania morning show where we deliver the fast five stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube So if you're watching us on YouTube please feel free to subscribe and give us a video thumbs up We're also available as a podcast and where podcasts can be found So that's what I've seen Stitcher, Public Radio, Outercast All the places you will be listening to podcasts Find us a Toast and we have five star video What are beautiful, stunning And Wickedly Talented We are programming reminder There is no show Monday We are off for President's Day So I hope everybody enjoys a long weekend if you have it off.

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