At A Cross-Dressing Crossroads: Wednesday, February 5th, 2025

0:00Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the toast and happy Wednesday Okay it's Wednesday It's the middle of the week it's a hump day However you are in particular are going to Get through that whether it's with a pillow humping saddle Or just humping someone you love Do what you gotta do happy Wednesday Swirlies how you doing? Happy Wednesday it is the day of the Wednesday Which feels fair You know it's like Yesterday was a shock to the system Today it is what it is when we're done with this episode We will have ushered you into the latter half of the week and we just have to keep looking towards the future.

0:34I find myself like as I get older saying it is what it is more and more. And it's just like it is what it is. I mean, it's a great convo ender while also being agreeable and accepting the things that we can't change. Yes, yes. And I actually also find myself quoting that Alcoholics Anonymous blurb more often than I care to admit because it's kind of pargy. It has nothing to do with alcoholism. It has to do with like God and courage. Yeah, it has to do with faith, like accepting the things that I cannot change, which is the fact that it's Wednesday. And I'm just going to accept that. Speaking of quotes, I actually saw the most beautiful quote yesterday that Borderline brought me to tears.

1:12And it came from TikTok. I shared this on my Instagram, so I apologize if this is repetitive. But it bears repeating. Nostalgia is proof you are living a life to be proud of. How lucky we are to yearn for our own memories. That's beautiful. it's such a pargy way of thinking because nostalgia like when you really get into it like can be so depressing it's like the good days are behind us but it's like no you've lived such a pargy life like you're yearning for it yearn for your own things that you have had i just wasn't expecting to be like hit with such a fresh positive perspective on tiktok i wasn't i really really like that we recorded redheads yesterday about the pargy book that we read and at the end of every episode we do like moral of the story where we try and like wait wait i started the Redheads book yesterday.

1:56So please don't spoil anything. I won't spoil anything. But that's always a fun segment, especially after we've discussed the whole book. We come to the moral of the story. This book actually had a lot of morals like that you could have extrapolated from it. But actually, I guess I don't want to give away the moral of the story. All to say, there's some really good quotes in that segment. When the Redheads drops tomorrow, the episode is fire. And if you are a reader or want to become a reader, read The Wedding People. Start there. I want to have a conversation with you about the redheads okay because I know it's your passion project and you love it and like you crush it amazing yeah but like at what point are we gonna have the conversation about me joining the redheads like at what point like because when you started the redheads like I refused to read so I'm like oh these nerds I literally did not think you were gonna say that I thought you were just gonna be like like does nobody else at this point like feel like it's weird that I'm not in it or no nobody thinks that I would love for you would be a part of the redheads the issue is though like five people is too much for a podcast because you've been on the redheads before like for two different episodes so you would have to come for someone's seat and I think you should start with Margo like if you're trying to like take someone's seat like see if Margo I love having Margo on the show she brings a fresh young perspective she chooses books that we wouldn't choose and like she hate like there's always someone who hates the book as much as Margo so like she speaks for that person um but I do think like that's the chair that someone might get up from if I had to pick I am in agreement that there can never be five redheads like it's far too many four is already like really pushing it um and especially like you know me I'm literally three people so with the amount that I talk so I agree um I would and I guess it would be good for the redheads to know like if any of them ever wanted to leave like I am available that's a good feeling so nice to hear that's not what I thought you were going to say so I'm just like feeling really um excited by that that there's interest and to be clear I want to let you know like if I were to join the redheads like it very much is like your thing like I'm showing up as an employee like I don't want I don't want to bear any of the responsibility I just want to be a host like I like what you've done with it I like your outlines like I'm not coming for like a a c-suite executive type of role I just want to be like a mid to you know entry-level employee okay I love that like I should take Margo's temperature I think she actually loves being a redhead even though she acts like it's such a burden but I think she loves the time spent with her big sis and her big sis's friends and I do think that she at the end of the day like likes being forced to read different types of books and I don't know how she feels we need to do a state of the union like how are the girlies feeling I know Dana and Rebecca love it like yeah no i wasn't right from their cold dead hands same for me yeah no i just but it's putting it out there well next month's book that rebecca chose i've been seeing it everywhere it's like called like all the colors of the something and it's so acclaimed but it is 600 pages so like what if we did what if that chair was like an alternate chair no no what if i joined the month after that the month after that is dana's choice could also be it would just be like Whatever months the books are under 400 pages, I'll be there.

5:02But like what about when you don't like the book and you have to finish it? By the way, I finish books that I hate all the time. I'm not like so stubborn, especially if it's for something I have to read. Like I can hang. And nobody loves to hate on a book more than me. So I can fill that role. I know, but I can be that. Like I can bring that energy that Margo brings to the redheads while also bringing to itself, you know? Okay. Well, Margot won't listen to this episode, but I'm sure someone will tell her Claudia's coming for your scene on the redheads. Yeah. And let's see. And by the way, maybe she'll then like want it more.

5:35Yeah. She'll know like it's very coveted. Let's see what happens from there. Well, I have a huge, huge news. I actually have two huge pieces of news for the community. Ready? Okay. The first is just like a little housekeeping. Oh, actually three. Sorry. But the third one isn't huge. Just a little housekeeping update. I forgot to watch Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. So Dear Toasters is today. Woohoo! The DTQ getting their fill a little bit early. It was supposed to be tomorrow. I do think the DTQ is larger than the BHQ. But nobody watches The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. I know, except for us.

6:09That's so us. Like, that is so us. So that was the first announcement. You didn't watch last night. And at times I'm like, why are we watching the show? Like, it's feeling like a chore. It's not feeling like Southern Charm. However, the end of the episode when Kathy Hilton hosted a dinner party for Kathy, Dorit, Bose and Erica. That's why I watch the dream team. The dream team. That's why I'm watching the real house for that. Okay. Like, and they had a real conversation about Dorit's marriage and like Erica is being the friend that like you need. She's being Phoebe. If you've read the wedding people, she's being Phoebe.

6:40That's why we're watching real housewives of Beverly Hills. So, you know, okay. So that makes me feel better, but there is no recap today. So dear toasters housekeeping Wednesday, back to our roots, you know? So that's the first announcement. The second announcement is we've been keeping you guys updated on our theme song journey. And I want to let everybody know that we are getting in the studio this week. Jackie, your first session is tomorrow, correct? My first session is tomorrow or is it Friday? Oh my God, my week just got sort of like blown to bits. Here I was like bragging. We got over the flu and it was the weekend and blah, blah, blah.

7:08And then I got an ear infection and has been like really sick with it. So like I kind of have to like wipe the slate clean for the week, except it's Friday. We'll be fine. My appointment's Friday to record. Oh my God, I took a video of myself singing it. If the ear infection that has infected your son is listening to this, my nephew, if you're hearing me, just know you better fucking pray. I don't see you in the streets because what you've done to my poor nephew sleeping with his hand on his ear, he's in so much pain. I'll fucking kill you. I'll fucking kill you. And your musty, dusty, germy ass.

7:41Okay. I feel sick that my nephew has an ear infection. I feel fucking sick. No, it's like so annoying. Cause I guess an ear infection like is a result of a sickness and then like it sprouts afterwards. Yeah. So we were like out of the woods, fever free for like 48 hours and then back. And so like we went back to the doctor yesterday. So it's an ear infection. So he's on an antibiotic and it'll get cleared up. But just like. I feel so sick from this. We made all these plans. Well, you're still going to be hitting the recording studio on Friday. In two days, like a lot changes in two days. And the recording studio is my house.

8:15So, yeah. And how are you preparing for your first session? We had a lengthy discussion with our producer about, you know, whose vocals should get laid down first. we ultimately decided that it was Jackie's. And how are you feeling? Like, what are you doing to prepare? So I'm obviously memorizing the song. However, I can't really change the way I'm singing it until I get feedback from the producer. I did take a video of myself singing it. And I thought I kind of - How could you not have sent that to me? I thought I kind of crushed it until like the last line I had to like redo. It was bad. That's okay.

8:43Maybe I should send that to him, but I don't want to scare him. He doesn't know, you know. Well, he does. I spoke to him. So I've worked with him before and he knows obviously my vocal abilities. And I said, it's really important. Like I know that I'm like a vocal star, but it's important that Jackie and I are represented 50, 50. Like I want just as amount of syllables as Jackie as me. But I did say Curtis, you know, Jackie just for like, does that have an amazing voice? Yeah. And he can auto tune me, but I still want it to be myself. Otherwise it's like we could have hired a professional. however in this moment like I'm not super um like egotistic about like being you know what I mean like I want what's best for the song like if that means that you are getting like 80 percent of it like that doesn't bother me I just want you to know like can I tell you it actually bothers me and I'm so egotistical like if we're doing a dance I want to be in the center like I want my picture bigger than everybody else is like I want to be the main character but for this like this show is such a equal partnership our theme song must reflect that and I don't care how bad you sound like you are getting in there and you are doing the routine yeah I guess because like we're not actually putting out a song like it's a theme song it can be fun it doesn't have to be good like there's space for me but I always let you know when like I'm like I want visibility on something like this isn't if if you know if I don't have what it takes like no I just don't have what it takes when I think of some of the people who have released music especially like think about the bravo sphere if alex fan came pin what's the same simon van came and can do it so can you that's true and your voice like actually it's so funny because your voice is obviously not good but you're not a total lost cause like there are people brian kelly i'm not one of like he can't even carry happy birthday like the worst voice ever you actually like you don't have an amazing voice but you can carry a tune i mean i have a bad voice but i'm very musical you know so like I can understand the beats and the rhythm and everything except like the sound of my voice is bad but like I'm not just like totally off yeah my third and final big announcement is probably the biggest announcement I'll make today I feel like today this month so far this episode is just like me fishing for compliments like about my voice and the redhead yes it's actually so like you're like really showering me with compliment no but it's also like you you're just being so complimentary I slept really well maybe that's what what it is Oh, parge.

11:03Yeah. My third and final, I just wanted to update everybody. If you listened to Monday's episode, Jackie and I accidentally just discovered an amazing photographer, if you know you know, the Michael Buckner of it all, on Monday's episode. I highly encourage, I'm sure you guys have listened to it, but if you haven't, just go listen to the fifth and final story. Jackie and I, just whatever. We have made contact with Michael Buckner. He slid into my DMs. Michael Buckner has made contact. when I tell you my jaw hit the floor seeing him in my dms I was cracking up and I was like kind of afraid I was like is he like upset because he's like a professional turns out he dm'd me being like would love to take your headshot and I was like oh my god I love that but then I went to his Instagram oh you can't get your headshot taken by Michael Buckner like if you're just anyone he is literally like the foremost celebrity photographer I don't know how Christina Hacks boyfriend got a photo with him like you guys his instagram emma stone aio edabiri zoe saldana selena gomez like it's that tip of the iceberg like the best of the best and he's in my dms like saying he thought it was so funny his wife was surprised to hear that he's dating christina hack like and he lives in la unfortunately so if he comes to new york i told claudia she has to take maternity photos with him and i told jackie because the day is going to come where we need to redo our artwork I'm sorry I don't look like that anymore we have to have Michael Buckner Buckner creative direct the shoot we have to have him do our next toast artwork I totally agree I would only trust Michael like he's kind of the only name and like his vision yeah he just totally gets us and he's like the only photographer I feel comfortable with at this point but I echo your statements completely and I just I love what we do because and sometimes it's good and sometimes it's bad like where we just talk about random people and we hear from them it's mostly bad philip phillips like we all remember where your gym teacher no not my gym teacher my english teacher yes no but there was also a gym teacher starts with a d i'm sure he's listening right now no jackie his daughters are huge choasters i talk to them all the time that was positive okay it was jackie was my english teacher remember when i said that like thing about him i don't want to get into it i actually don't want to get into it um and sometimes like those people will you know hear it and reach out to us and it's butt-clenchingly horrible like it makes me want to quit this job and actually work as an accountant but every now and then Michael Buckner comes along and makes it all okay yeah so that was very exciting highlight of the week and really a front runner for Queenie of the Week and the fact that he could take a joke like I didn't know that about Michael Buckner like Michael Buckner takes jokes like I love it yeah so if you have the chance really cute today oh my gosh thank you I was thinking we're both in like our winter whites yeah it's giving winter wonderland actually this turtleneck is all that fits me right now like i'm just funny really going digging into the archives of clothes that managed to miss the ozempic hall like when i what the second i lost weight i was like oh i'll never be fat again and everything over a size medium can we do our my patreon idea this month of closet swap sure and maybe i'll just do it for you because my idea was like that we would each film ourselves i love doing a two like a dual vlog now really putting our heads such a film maker very michael buckner i'm such a content creator but so that i would like take a couple pieces send them to turdy she would film herself like opening them enjoying them because i have a lot of maternity clothes and oh yeah things that you would like so can i do that you don't have to then send to me if if people want a part two that's a different story yeah for sure i could also just like come to your house and we could do this you know you could but you don't have why do we have to involve like the postage system i just think it's like such fun pen pal things but I guess not yeah you know how I feel about like bringing things into my home and okay but if it's something that you wear I'm not gonna send you crap like I'm gonna send you like good body suits good material Kamali hatch like I got you body suits while you're pregnant you know what yes not a body suit a cat suit like with pants that's what I wore like the Norma Kamali cat suit like it's just a great base and you put a cardigan over part delicious yeah yeah okay I I thought you were talking about like a bodysuit like thong.

15:11No. Oh my God. No, I'm not a sick individual. No, no, no. I don't even wear those not pregnant. No, I just bought a couple of bodysuit t-shirts where it's like a t-shirt that then goes into your undies. They'll be here on Thursday. I'll let you know how it goes. No, I actually like that concept because if you're looking for like a tucked in tee, a bodysuit makes it really easy. I just the whole thing of like having a piece of material up your butthole makes life not worth living, to be honest. Yeah, but also like doing anything and seeing your own midriff makes life worth not living. So like this solves that.

15:42You just said a mouthful there, sister. My midriff is none of my business. Yeah, I agree. So I'm really excited about this new technology I've invested in. Body suit t-shirt. Without technology. Without technology. Shout out to the camera and the counselor. A timeless classic. I was at Barnes & Noble Union Square yesterday hosting a book event for Brian's book tour. and they, it's so funny. I was gonna ask, but I thought it was obnoxious. But anytime I go to a bookstore, if they have like one or two copies of my book, I like to sign it and then post it on my Instagram if anybody wants a signed copy.

16:14But you know, it was Brian's night. So like, I wasn't gonna like make it a thing, right? Of course. But I get there and this Barnes and Noble Union Square, like they're obviously professional. They had like 50 of my books and they were like, will you sign them? I said, of course. But I was like, I hope Brian doesn't see. Like, I don't want him thinking I'm making this event about myself. Like I actually felt so, he didn't see. But then when I was leaving, Becca, who's like his head of PR, she was like, oh, Brian walked into the green room and saw your books. I was like, oh no. Like, just so you know, I did not ask.

16:44And I wanted to say, it crossed my mind to ask. And honestly, if I just wasn't so lazy, I would have asked. I'm going all the way there. Like, let me sign some books. It's like one of the biggest bookstores in the city. But I didn't because I was lazy. And I did know like that I felt like it was tacky. And I was like, Becca, I swear on my life. This was a total shock. I didn't ask. And she was like, no, the Barnes and Noble staff told Brian that like it was their idea but I just feel like he didn't believe like no I wouldn't it's so crazy and it's so me like to make everything about myself yeah but I do feel like you would have been you would like make something about yourself but not in such an overt way like they're in the green room splayed out like you would be like hiding in the back signing books because you want to get the book signed not like sitting like that's embarrassing so I I believe Turdy and I stand with okay and by the way I just I swear on my life and anyone who knows you would know that about you like yeah you want to get the book signed but like not in someone else's green room and everybody who knows me like knows if i did do that shit like i would say it like i would own it in a small way i agree i just want to go on record i would let the record reflect like i did not ask it was such a literary day yesterday because uh dean and becky were at your and brian's event and we had just recorded redheads and so oh kind of like the new era of the redheads sort of just like coming together yeah it's all sort of falling into place just something to think about kind of like a coup de redhead coup de head also what's so crazy is this month is our five-year anniversary of the redheads i don't believe is that the most shocking thing you ever heard we started in 2020 oh that's reminding me of the nostalgia quote like time is flying jacks five years of the redheads we've done 62 books 63 actually because i know we did attorney's book as a bonus we did camber and counselor too so 64 64 um which is just amazing but we're coming up on seven years of toast in april right we only did the toast for two years before i started the redheads like i guess because we do it every day and we did yeah 500 episodes before i started the redheads i also like i i can't get into like how long we've been doing the toast you can't get into at a glance it'll turn into at a glance and we don't have time for that because we have dear toasters you know and like we'll get to at a glance in our birth month which is april like that's when we start to start looking at toast our birth month is coming up what's our birthstone that's a good question let me for our anniversary we should like get matching jewelry with the toast birthstone as long as it's a pretty one because my birthstone is not pretty that's why i'm always trying to get you know what the april birthstone is it's very pretty what is it a diamond claudia let's get like diamond diamond necklaces let's get diamond necklaces to celebrate our seven year and you know any excuse you know they say every seven years like you completely change as a person now I don't know if that means like when you turn seven and 14 and 21 right but like every seven years is like a rebirth so if we've been doing the toast for seven years that will mean that like we are completely different people than the beginning which we are what watch the first episode of the toast if you can bear it we are different people yeah but not even just physically like no I'm not even talking about physically but obviously physically yeah no I I actually you could there is an amount of money you could pay me to watch that episode I know but do you ever watch those old episodes have you ever watched because I actually think you would be surprised by how good it is like that you would like it more than you think that you would of course we're like cringe in our accents and like we say like so much not that we don't do all those things now um but we just did it differently back then but I every time I watch it I'm like oh my god we're actually so cute and I don't feel embarrassed I haven't had that experience yet but maybe it's because you're a little bit older than me and you're more mature I think it's just because you you refuse to watch refuse I'm too filled with self-hate to even reflect in a positive way honestly so like I can't do it when is like your last when what time period are you like okay I'm good with that if somebody sends me a clip or something from the apartment we got evicted in the studio with all the windows I can watch that shit okay we were very funny then like I think the pink throne era the pink throne era I don't relate to that person at all like I don't feel like that's me whereas when I see a clip of us in that studio with all the windows I think I'm like oh yeah that's like younger me yeah okay that's cute that's not so far off no no it's not so what's your birthstone ruby pargy what's yours yellow topaz not the greatest that's why when like all these birthstone trends i'm like oh i could get like harry's and charlie's or zach right our wedding anniversary and that's why that's why you have kids like if you hate your birthstone you can do someone else's switch it up shake it up chicago well we've got a great show how are the stories i know that your toasters are fab i can speak for that the stories are rbg ruth bader ginsburg and really no i got it random but good yeah rbg it's an rbg day rip rip without further ado to do it is time for the fast five stories that you need to know.

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27:00No, like if anybody else posted this video, any celebrity influencer, like it wouldn't be news. We wouldn't be talking about it. But this is the fourth post on Megan's Instagram. And it is a video of her being very excited because she shares a story of how when she was in Altadena a few weeks ago and she was visiting the ashes and people's former homes that there was a - The community. There was a young girl who was most upset because she got a Billie Eilish t-shirt at a concert and she left it in the washing machine and the washing machine burned down. and she lost that memory in that piece of merch and so Megan you know reached out to everyone she knows to get to Billie Eilish to see if she could replace that shirt for the girl and Billie's and her team sent like a package of merch and this girl was going to be so happy which is like a nice story and like Billie's team went above and beyond like signing records yeah signing everything of course like yeah I just want to say this a dream this is a great story for Billie like Billie's having a good press day 100 % she didn't even really have to do anything yep the video is so crazy because as I said it's the fourth video that Meghan Markle's ever posted uh this is like the first post on her feed like about like even the service that they do which they did a lot for the wildfires they were visiting with families and they were photographed doing this and that and she doesn't take like you know videos on her iPhone selfie videos like it was felt like an influencers they wouldn't even post it to their feed they posted to their story like yes how did this make it to the grid it was also very like edited in the sense that like every three words there was a cut which I don't know if everybody notices stuff like that but considering she's just like passively telling a story I don't know why there had to be so many cuts like what why couldn't this like be just you know a stream of conscience I'm very critical of when I see like podcast clips of people like cutting every three words I'm like can you not speak one sentence without cutting I'm I'm hyper aware of that too I think it's because of what we do for a living I don't know if everybody else is but I also like notice the amount of yeah like when I see influencers doing ads like when there are cuts every three words it's like you couldn't just like say it you know you couldn't say one sentence cut like maybe I sometimes cut out like um a pause or an um oh I always flub my words and I just do it again like cut um but this wasn't that this was she's just like telling a story and there were so many cuts and then it was posted and it was just like so fucking random it was so random the sheer fact that this video made it to feed was like really freaking me out one because you know to do something nice like that like you do it just for the sake of doing something nice, like not for like posting about it on social media and bragging.

29:24And people are so tough on Megan that like, you know, if you're a hater, your first thought is like, why can't you just do like an act of good without bragging about it? And then the other is like, okay, well, it's nice that you want to help people, but like you're using your platform to brag about helping one person with a t-shirt. Like when the devastation of the fires is so much bigger than that. Personally, I'm not in a Megan hating era. Like I think she's hilarious and so crazy. Like I don't even begin to understand her, or even try to understand her. Like why she would post this in feed, I could never tell you.

29:54And like, I understand if she wanted to post it because she thought it was a sweet story. Billy looks good. It's like, you know, just uplifting. Like, first of all, like posted to stories. It's so material for stories. And the thing is like her and Harry do a lot of community service. That is like their job. They are professional philanthropists. So it's not like she just did one good thing one time and felt the need to brag about it. But it's like, why now? Why this act of service? It's so random. And it's such a singular act of service because what they do helps millions. They're always raising money for, you know, the poor.

30:26Global causes, yeah. Yeah. Not like one rando girl, who, by the way, is just as deserving of this act of service as anybody else. But it's, like, I'm so confused. So confused. Like, and the fact that she was, like, so impressed that her, she was able to reach Billie Eilish. She thanked Adam Levine and Behati. It's like, you are literally one degree of separation from Billie Eilish. I'm shocked you didn't have her phone number, but someone, you know, obviously knows her. Yeah. That was like a little pick me when she was like, and I knew I like wanted to try and get in contact with Billie Eilish, but like, I had no idea where to start.

30:59It's like, you're a former member of the monarchy. You can get in contact with whomever you want. You live in Montecito. Your neighbors are Ellen. Like, it's so not hard. A Billie Eilish would have a hard time getting in touch with you. Yeah. You would not have a hard time getting in touch with Billie Eilish. Like that was just a little like, can you stop acting like you're not a queen? You are a princess. Excuse me. yeah that was really weird like all the celebrities know each like that was they all have the same agents managers someone's publicist is friends with the other person's publicist like it's so connected it's so connected so but acting like she was going on this arduous journey to get in contact with billy eilish when it probably it could have taken her a total of seven minutes literally she just texts like her one person is like who who do we know that knows billy eilish or phineas and and it's done like that's it or their manager or their agent or their publicist like or like someone at their record label literally anyone the Hollywood everyone's teams are like 50 people and so many of those team members work on multiple teams yes however so the the posting of the video is kind of random but I feel like if she's now getting into this like content creation era and like we can expect stuff like this all the time then I guess this was just like kicking it off and this is what you wanted to say god I hope like I loved seeing her being so real in her house.

32:14Like, not me. I was not even watching her in the video. I was like looking in the background. I just wanted to see different things in her house. If we could, if she's going to use her Instagram as a window into her life, I'm so down. Right, but like that starts today. Like, what are we posting today, tomorrow? She needs to have a constant stream of 24-hour stories. Right, but if like the next thing is in two weeks and it's another trailer for With Love Megan, like, where does this fall in? I don't know, she looked so gorgeous. She is so gorgeous. She is so gorgeous. I was so You know when you open your phone and it takes you like a second to register what you're saying Sometimes you get like a piece of crazy news and you're like not able to read the English that's in front of you I was like wait this is Meghan Markle doing a selfie I just couldn't fathom it No and the cover photo I think was the pile of stuff from Billie Eilish So I'm like what is this pile of stuff?

33:03Not the pile of stuff But really fantastic for Billie and the team And I'm happy for the girl Like it's a nice story as we said Of course. Just like a random bit of content. No. And it makes Billie look great that like this piece of positive news about her is like put out not by her. Because there is a lot of criticism about celebrities who do, you know, charity but then do press about it. Like that's an often – like a criticism people make a lot of Taylor Swift when often she doesn't even share it. It just gets shared because she's so famous. And I mean I get it. It's like definitely weird. It's just like do the nice thing without like getting attention for it.

33:39So Billie got that. She didn't, you know, she was not a part of this announcement whatsoever. And now we're like, oh, look at Billie donating all this product. Yeah. Also, speaking of Billie, I wanted to get your, like, ask what the streets are saying. Because when Beyonce won album of the year, Billie had tears in her eyes. Did you see that? I didn't. And at the time, I just kind of, like, thought maybe she was, like, so happy for Beyonce. But it's like, Kacey Musgraves got roasted because, like, she wasn't smiling big enough. Meanwhile, Billie was, like, crying. But was she crying because she lost her?

34:07She was so excited for Beyonce and her first win. based on a lot of the research I've done post Grammys when it comes to album of the year is that I can actually see Billie like having tears in her eyes because if there was a year for Billie to win the album like it was that and how we're always saying like how Beyonce's year was the year they gave it to Beck yeah and it's like Beyonce probably cried that year too you know um I didn't see that let me just see I'm gonna look it up I don't know you could read either way but I was like I'm just wondering which one it is but then also you said so like Billie Eilish was probably like the runner up for album of the year.

34:42Oh, I see. You see? Yeah. She does just have also like really piercing, like the color of her eyes. But they look watery. They do, they do. And she has like a little bit of like a pursed lip when you're like trying to like swallow the lump in your throat. But is that crying tears of joy for this icon getting her moment?

35:00I want to say no, like honestly. And that's what I was saying about Casey Musgraves too. Like you can be happy for Beyonce and sad for yourself. That doesn't make you like a woman who doesn't support other women. And it just makes you a human being who wanted to win an award like that they were eligible for. I don't think that's crazy. OK. Yeah. No, that makes sense to me. I was. Oh, and by the way, she's 1000 percent crying. I'm going to send you this particular video. Yeah, I know. I saw it. But why are people not saying like she's upset that she lost? Like just like they said about Casey Musgraves.

35:27Because I guess they're reading it as like Casey being mad that Beyonce won while Billy's being sad that she lost. Yeah. Billy. Yeah. But I don't. That's also just people then projecting. Like they just want Casey to be mad because they want Beyonce to not have dessert. Like that's just them. And I don't think Casey's reaction was malicious. I think if we're reading into anything, it's just like a sadness for yourself for losing. That's okay. I feel like these award shows, you're just conditioned to like be happy for the person who won and like really just be happy to be nominated. Like it's okay to want big things for yourself.

35:59Yeah. Yeah. And I actually think she's 100 % crying. and yeah I think that what I've learned and I'm not like a Billie stan is that like her album was like a real top contender yeah but then wouldn't Short and Sweet have been the runner-up because it won best pop vocal and Short and Sweet beat Billie Eilish for right no it's a good point so is there any way Billie Eilish could have won album of the year without winning best pop vocal yes I think that it has probably happened before okay but that's just like I just want to say it doesn't make sense to me I'm in complete agreement with you sister okay thank you unless it's about the vocals you know like maybe they're saying that Billy's album could have been better but you know maybe they say like yes Sabrina's was more poppy but it was a better pop album but overall Billy's was a better album like you could make the argument for sure and the people the grabbers just bake stuff up I totally agree look at us we're making stuff up like it's true I wouldn't I wouldn't think too hard about it are you ready for our next story hoda kotby is teasing her next project after leaving the today show and joanna gains is involved obsessed so hoda and jenna posted a collab post a photo of them hugging a carousel and it shows them hoda and jenna i'm sorry old habits die hard hoda and joanna hoda and joanna uh and they're in a studio and there's someone filming them it's a carousel of photos and hoda said remember i was talking about repotting gotta take first steps we have something fun cooking come along on the great adventure stay tuned love Joanna Gaines cooking cooking I don't know what they're doing together but they're working on something okay let me see I'm looking at their photos they're like working in this empty conference room with a laptop and a folding table and they're being filmed I have no fucking idea I feel like maybe it's an episode of Joanna's show and she's redesigning Hoda's working space for the next chapter of Hoda.

37:57Oh, that's obviously what it is. Good call. Because like it looks like an office space. It's like this empty, ugly office space. Yeah. With like dropped tile ceilings. So I guess then the next question is like, what is Hoda doing in this office space? And she also talked about repotting, which I feel like is. Garden. No, I feel like it's like a metaphor of like. Oh. Blooming in a new plant. Yes, I agree. I agree. Oh, I thought it was like a Easter egg. She has a gardening company. which also reminds me of moral of the story from yesterday's redheads but of course i don't want to spoil it thank you yeah yeah so what kind of company could hoda be starting i mean she could do anything but she's like a woman in media i feel like maybe like a little podcast of her own with like a little small media kind of like how katie curick has like katie curick media she like makes instagram reels by the way do you see don lemon at the grammys no i like saw about are you familiar with what Don Lamont is up to he has he's like a he's like a internet creator yes he's like a tiktoker where he had like a really popular on the street man like man on the street style series where he would like go up and ask people about random stuff some political some cultural like and people really liked it and it was like a an introduction to a generation like that didn't know him they didn't know this was like a guy who had a whole career at cnn they just thought it was like some guy on the street not like this journalist and so he's like taking that to the Grammys now he was on the Grammys like Running after people chasing them down Like Gracie Abrams with his little microphone being like Gracie Gracie what do you think about and it was like Why are you Working so hard you know Like a big package Yeah right no not only that like you are An accomplished journalist from like a Big network like CNN You were there for so many years and now you're just like slumming It on TikTok with the rest of us yeah that's Crazy I found it really crazy And I forgot that he was doing that and then I saw a couple of his Grammys videos go viral.