Battle of The Big Als: Friday, April 10th, 2026

10 Apr 2026 · 1 h 9 min · 25 chapters

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In short

The Toast discusses “Big Al” (Alex Cooper and Alex Earl) online drama, plus a fiery Real Housewives of Beverly Hills recap, and celebrity wedding speculation about Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey.

Guests

No guests appear in this episode. Hosts are Toast’s “Toast” (Jackson Claude) and Jax.

Guest backgrounds (referenced)

Alex Cooper (Call Her Daddy host; major podcast/influencer figure) and Alex Earl (Unwell podcast/influencer; previously worked with Cooper). Also discussed: Gleb Savchenko (Dancing with the Stars pro) and Brooks Nader (model/reality figure).

Key claims

The hosts criticize a TikTok framing Alex Cooper as an “ambulance chaser/grim reaper” for interviewing people after breakups; they argue the culture rewards trauma-for-content. They also claim Gleb’s “worst sex” comment about Brooks is unethical/low-blow and inconsistent with “women uplifting women” branding. They speculate Alex Earl feels taken advantage of by Cooper’s success and deal dynamics.

Notable examples

Real Housewives of Beverly Hills—Dorit vs Kyle/Sutton moments, Erica’s gripes, and Bo’s engagement. Unwell Winter Games—Gleb calling Brooks’s sex “the worst.” Taylor/Travis—reported July 3 wedding in New York City.

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Chapters

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Kitchen Reno Excitement

0:45 to 2:49

Discussion about the host's excitement for progress in their kitchen renovation project.

Workout Talk and Fitness

2:49 to 4:46

Hosts share their workout experiences and thoughts on fitness.

“It's more so like depleting from the day's battery when I need that battery to do the day.”

Reality TV and Recaps

4:46 to 7:09

Hosts discuss recent episodes of 'Beverly Hills' and their thoughts on the cast dynamics.

“And that's such a ringing endorsement that they refuse to hop on the bandwagon, especially their new-er in the group.”

Dorit and Kyle's Relationship Dynamics

7:09 to 8:23

In-depth analysis of the relationship and conflicts between Dorit and Kyle.

“She rolls over in the morning and checks her Instagram.”

Guest Appearances and Drama

8:23 to 10:28

Discussion around Jennifer Tilly's appearance and her impact on the show.

“Like, but the crazy thing is that this whole thing started with Amanda and then Kyle stepped into defender and it just became Kyle V.”

Amazon Customer Service Woes

10:28 to 12:22

The host shares a frustrating experience with Amazon's customer service.

The Hustle of High-Level Business

14:04 to 14:49

Explore the challenges and mindset of operating at a high level in business.

“Because one thing about like the hustle never stops.”

Analyzing the Drama Between Influencers

21:05 to 28:00

Dive into the ongoing drama between Alex Earl and Alex Cooper and its cultural implications.

“It was like a cultural commentary on the state of the world.”

The Evolution of Alex Cooper and Alex Earl

28:00 to 28:39

Discussing the changing dynamics between Alex Cooper and Alex Earl and perceptions of their relationship.

“Alex Cooper has sort of evolved past that.”

Personal Connections to Names

28:39 to 29:53

A light-hearted conversation about personal connections with the name Alex, revealing funny anecdotes.

“I guess like anyone who's named Alex, like that's, you're like a Big Al.”
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Alex Cooper's Recent Choices

29:53 to 30:47

Analyzing Alex Cooper's recent controversial decisions and their implications.

“I think based on what I heard, like he was one of the main driving forces between her leaving and like he really hates her.”

Gleb Savchenko's Unfortunate Comments

30:47 to 33:18

Critique of Gleb Savchenko's comments about Brooks Nader and the broader implications for women.

“He should have been fired from Dancing with the Stars for that, like threatening to release their intimate moments that they had recorded or whatever.”

Shifts in Media Representation

33:18 to 35:50

Discussing the shift in media representation and treatment of women in reality shows.

“And if someone went on Call Her Daddy and told this story about their ex and what he did to her and that then he went on a show and said, Alex would sit there and be like, oh my God, you know?”

The Future of Alex Cooper

35:50 to 37:42

Speculating on the future of Alex Cooper amidst changing public perceptions and her career trajectory.

“But you can't make the argument that Brooks wasn't big enough.”

Taylor Swift's Wedding Speculations

37:42 to 41:27

Discussing the rumors surrounding Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's wedding date and location.

“The Save the Dates have gone out and the source told page six it's New York City on July 3rd.”

Exploring Central Park's History

42:00 to 45:11

Learn about the engineering and planning behind Central Park's creation.

“Like every entrance to the park is closed.”

Wedding Venue Recommendations

45:11 to 47:42

Discover popular wedding venues in New York City and their unique features.

“Somebody DM'd me because people think I'm lying about preferring Pepsi.”

Jonah Hill's Private Life Revealed

49:28 to 56:01

Discussing Jonah Hill's recent marriage and family life updates.

“welcome our next story jonah hill reveals he's married and quietly welcomed baby number two with wife olivia millar not ruthie jonah further proof that celebrities can have privacy if they want it Right.”

Notable Alumni Discussion

56:01 to 57:28

The hosts discuss notable alumni from their high school, including some surprising names.

Wikipedia Editing Dilemma

57:29 to 58:46

The hosts share their frustrations about being removed from their high school's Wikipedia page and the challenges of editing it.

“Larry Tans, who's the VP of global television at Netflix, which I just want to say doesn't get you a notable alum.”

Wikimedia Community Drama

58:47 to 1:00:47

The hosts delve into the discussions and fights happening on the Wikipedia page regarding their high school.

“And put that snack away unless you have enough for the class.”

Queenie of the Week

1:00:57 to 1:02:19

The hosts discuss the Queenie of the week, highlighting an impressive moment from a new mother at a major event.

“Someone actually sent this to me and said that this person should be Queenie of the Week, and I would say more often than not, I would disagree with whatever is being sent my way.”

Memories from Bat Mitzvah

1:02:20 to 1:04:42

One host shares a personal story about finding and digitizing an old Bat Mitzvah VHS tape, reminiscing about childhood.

“And like just having that newborn, that newborn is like having the best day of his life.”

Reflections on Childhood

1:04:43 to 1:06:34

The hosts reflect on their childhood performances and experiences, adding humorous and nostalgic commentary.

“Also like Queenie to the videographer who like filmed our bat mitzvah like an episode of my super sweet 16.”

Weekend Plans and Positive Vibes

1:06:35 to 1:08:28

The hosts discuss their upcoming weekend plans and recap a sense of positivity, looking forward to events.

“the entertainment i am the entertainer and like sometimes when our parents would like have a party we would all perform our quartet.”
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0:03Jackie Oshry:Good morning, girlies. It's the toast.

0:08Claudia Oshry:It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show. The fast five things you need to know.

0:18Jackie Oshry:We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Friday, a day that makes me want to sing a song but I don't feel like paying for it. Hey Jax, how you doing?

0:34Claudia Oshry:I'm doing good, thrilled to bits that it's Friday. To motherfucking bits. And I have like major gains happening in my Kitchen Reno project today. Gains on, gains on, gains. Yeah, that's right. all the tea is in the vlog it's now hard like being a split content creator as I have shared my truth on Instagram now on the podcast now on the vlog but I want to save it off my vlog and the vlog is getting like the real tea all the thoughts like really in depth I mean it might have to be part one and two um but it's a major day here so I'm very excited for progress let's go the winds of progress the winds of change are a blowing in my home oh chilly it's it's so exciting as someone who like likes change and updates and progression i couldn't be more

1:25Jackie Oshry:thrilled to bits cool how are you jeans yeah i'm wearing jeans they're sweatpants they just look like jeans um like why do i have to tell people that you're like why can't i just be like yeah

1:39Claudia Oshry:i'm so fucking real yeah yeah i wear jeans size 25 like what's it to you i wear jeans every all day every day it's like not a big deal yeah to wear jeans yeah but what is a big deal is that i

1:51Jackie Oshry:worked out with my trainer hillary yesterday i saw we mostly chatted good i will say as you should and then and then there was some light working out but um yeah i worked out how do you feel and i'm wearing jeans like i wish everyone would stop making both of those things such a big deal how do you feel that you worked out i feel good i don't feel sore like i feel sometimes when i work out hard and it makes me sore it's kind of it's it causes a regression like I get annoyed that I'm sore and I'm like I should have never worked out like and if I didn't work out I wouldn't be sore and I know you have to like work through the soreness to get to a good place but I'm just not willing to do that so I told her I'm like I feel like we'll be doing my whole journey a disservice

2:32Claudia Oshry:if you make me sore but I feel like when you're sore it's like that's how you know like you worked of course confirmation but i also filmed the whole thing so i know i worked out you know i guess i get no no but like no i know it no it's not that like you might have forgotten it's like i know i

2:50Jackie Oshry:did muscles weren't strained did you even work them not respecting my calls um no i'm happy for

2:57Claudia Oshry:you and listen like i have mad respect for a new mama who's who's hitting the gym not even because it's like hard to go to the gym honestly after a day of being a mama the gym sounds like a It's actually a vacation. It's more so like depleting from the day's battery when I need that battery to do the day. That's why I think it's like such a feat.

3:17Jackie Oshry:Well, luckily I'm powered by a generator. I mean, that couldn't be less true. I have no energy. That's like probably my biggest complaint about my current self. My lack of energy, you know? Yeah, they do say working out like helps, but that sounds like a lie. I just refuse to buy into that. Although I will say they used to, like when I was really toxically like into my working out era, I've always heard people say like if you're hungover, like sweating it out helps so much. And it really actually does. Well, you could also go to a sauna or. No, but I mean like getting your body movement. It's not just the sweat.

3:49Jackie Oshry:It's like the endorphins and things of that nature. And endorphins make you happy and happy people just don't kill their husbands.

3:53Claudia Oshry:Honestly, I'm so glad that we're like not a podcast that talks about working out anymore.

3:59Jackie Oshry:It's not that interesting.

4:00Claudia Oshry:I'm like taken back to the days.

4:03Jackie Oshry:Wait, we have so much to talk about, first of all. I didn't even brief you like on the stories. Are we talking about Gleb? Yeah. Are we talking about Alex Earl?

4:12Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

4:13Jackie Oshry:Okay, good. I'm briefed. We're good.

4:15Claudia Oshry:Yeah, the stories are good today.

4:16Jackie Oshry:And they're also like some fun Friday fodder. Yeah, but there's usually not anything like fiery on a Friday. But today's episode is feeling quite fiery. Like lots to discuss.

4:25Claudia Oshry:Yeah. And then Beverly Hills, which I didn't realize I was like three episodes behind. and then I watched everything that I had and I'm like wait everyone was talking about like Yael Braun on last week and so I don't think my TiVo recorded this week maybe your TiVo didn't record

4:40Jackie Oshry:because TiVo doesn't exist and hasn't since the early 2000s my YouTube TV DVR like that's just

4:45Claudia Oshry:like the name I didn't record I restarted my TV and it wasn't there so I'm caught up from till

4:51Jackie Oshry:yesterday well I watched um I won't do a full recap but I will say you can recap like I don't

4:57Claudia Oshry:really care about spoilers this season's really like not it I don't dislike it because I love these women and it's a beautiful thing to watch but like this season is not it I see a lot of my

5:06Jackie Oshry:fellow team Dorit members like jumping ship I'm pointing at you Liz Woods um I've seen a lot of people and I just want to say my feet are firmly planted on the ground more firm than ever Ben's too Ben is just keep saying he doesn't know like all he's watched the whole season with me but he doesn't know like the deep history of the women but he's just like there are certain people on the show I vibe with and are obviously really cool. Bose. Ben's obsessed with Bose. Rachel Zoe. And they like Dorit. And that's such a ringing endorsement that they refuse to hop on the bandwagon, especially their new-er in the group.

5:36Jackie Oshry:It would be easy for them to just join the group. And they refuse. And Ben's like, it's not Dorit. And it is not Dorit. And how anybody after last night's episode thought they should hop off the Dorit bandwagon. I'm literally driving the ship. Sutton was so crazy. it was such an actual crazy Sutton moment I forget because she's actually been quite normal this season that there is like a truly scary crazy side to her and it really reared its ugly head like yeah Dorit was short with her but her reaction was I'm leaving it's like okay this party looks so fun go she was being so nutty team Dorit for fucking life bitch and Kyle literally is so obsessed she's so obsessed I do believe that Erica has legitimate gripes with her friend and if they could just work it out outside of Kyle it would be done already and I can imagine

6:19Claudia Oshry:that Dorit is a difficult person to be friends with at this time and like historically but also this time that she's going through a hard time is very extensive it's been going on for a while and I can imagine that it's hard you can't always have the most patience and always give grace and like you can get frustrated so even though we're like dude's going through a hard time like let her be like imagine being on the other side of it I imagine it's frustrating for sure and so I feel like

6:43Jackie Oshry:Erica has actual gripes with her and wants to be there for her in a genuine way and it's it's it's hard to do that. So I feel like if there wasn't this whole thing with Kyle going on, they could have worked it out, like genuinely. I feel like Dorit respects Erica and hears her out. Kyle's coming from such a bad place and trying so hard to make it like a team thing. Us, we all feel this way. And then Sutton got into it with Dorit last night and Kyle's like, look, another one. Kyle is so obsessed with Dorit. She's obsessed with her. Like she cannot breathe. She rolls over in the morning

7:12Claudia Oshry:and checks her Instagram. Like she's obsessed. Dorit's like, her whole thing is like, if you have a concern, like tell it to me directly. And Kyle's like, okay, but why are you only yelling at me about that when everybody's voice concerns? And it's like, because it's your turn right now. We're talking to you.

7:27Jackie Oshry:Bo's got engaged in last night's episode. Everything about Bo's is like personal story. It makes me cry. I forget that she's a widow. Like she doesn't really talk about it a lot. And she just said in her confessional something so sweet. I wanted to cry. She was like, I was just lucky enough to like be in a marriage once. That was like so amazing. And I got to be proposed to. And like even that happening one time is lightning in a bottle. So for me to get it twice and like both times, I'm so happy. She's like, I just feel like the luckiest girl in the world. Like, I just fucking love her. I love her.

7:53Jackie Oshry:And what's going on with Amanda Francis? You know, I'm kind of warming up to her. She's obsessed with herself and her book. And every time they play flashbacks of things she's done in the earlier season, I'm like, oh, my God, she's the worst. But like, it's Dorit's book party unveiling. Like, she hasn't written the book yet, but it's the cover. Unburdened by what has been. It's a big deal. It's a big deal for her. And Dorit and Kyle and Sutton all decide not to go. to read and to read oh sorry kyle sutton and erica that's not to go agreed and amanda's like i also don't want to go because like i hate this bitch but i recognize that it's a big moment for her um and whether she went just like to get camera time or whatever she went you know and girls who've known dorit for longer didn't go so it actually was a big point in her column for me

8:38Claudia Oshry:and she's bothering me less yeah no and also the other drama is sort of taking the front scene and We can only like be this dead horse and manifestation and courses so many times.

8:47Jackie Oshry:Like, but the crazy thing is that this whole thing started with Amanda and then Kyle stepped into defender and it just became Kyle V. Dorit.

8:54Claudia Oshry:Yes. But it was going to happen with anyone at any time. It was always Kyle V. It's always been laying dormant. Yeah. Yeah. And I hate when people are like Kyle and Dorit, like they fight like sisters. Like, no, they don't. These two people don't like each other and they're not sisters. So they don't, they only, they fight like housewives because if they weren't housewives, they would never speak to each other again.

9:14Jackie Oshry:Right, and sisters have this like underlying, yeah, you can say the meanest, nastiest thing to your sister and know that they will always have your back. That's like the opposite on Housewives. Like some of the most deepest longstanding friendships are over because of Housewives. So I don't think it's a good, I agree. It's not a good similar.

9:29Claudia Oshry:Yeah, and Rachel's like, that's how me and my sister fight, like yikes. I guess that's like the sisters of Beverly Hills, like Kyle and Kathy, but that's not sisters. I love Kathy. Oh, me too.

9:41Jackie Oshry:she didn't even do anything i just love her yeah jennifer tilly the reunion looks dropped um they all look so fab except kyle she's like i don't like what she's wearing but they all look so good did you see what jennifer tilly is wearing so apparently i i don't uh is it gucci i don't know who it is but like it's her face on a dress like and you have to be like a really really like big client kylie has one kylie's worn one with her face on it um and jennifer tilly she's such a legend she's such an amazing addition to the show and I feel like she's on the same level as Kathy Hilton was a friend of there for her personality but she's low-key but like getting involved and I actually like appreciate her takes I think she's very smart and she's not burdened by any sort of loyalty or relationship she just says what she thinks I don't love when she gets involved

10:26Claudia Oshry:I'm not gonna lie I felt like this season she was like being more of a housewife in the beginning and I was like oh no but I do like having her around and she's like very comedic value just like Kathy like vibes she brings up the group average she jumped in the pool at the party oh

10:42Jackie Oshry:right vibes in her clothes vibes yeah she's so fun I feel like I want to go to dinner with her

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10:46Claudia Oshry:you should absolutely you should use your platform for that you Jennifer Tilly and Haley Seinfeld should go to dinner dream team dream team you want to get into the stories that are so fiery fiery af for sure um without further ado ado ado ado and i guess that was your tv recap

11:09Jackie Oshry:like right yeah we didn't need like a formal one check i didn't even watch it and i feel like i can't deal with like bravo shows because i feel like we always get hate one way or the other like i don't watch bravo like stop talking about these shows and people being like why aren't you watching the real housewives of rhode island like i don't know are we watching too much bravo or not enough

11:25Claudia Oshry:yeah i think once again it's a situation where like you're gonna get hate either way they have to do what feels right for you but i do see that you've been silenced today because you didn't start the episode with i did something crazy last night it was an accident let's let's restart the episode we've only been going for 10 minutes because you know i i've been seeing i've been

11:44Jackie Oshry:seeing lm is getting things i've been seeing musings like uh hate originating uh people being like claudia it's not funny anymore i did something crazy last night and guess what it is funny okay don't be mean i like it well because uh i like it what's that from our viral sound which one we have so many i like i we should stop talking shit well no because um i like it classic stuff we're so quotable like we are so quotable just like i did something crazy last night and i did do something actually i did do something crazy last night you watch your real house at beverly hills well yes i also read me and ben had like an hour before beverly hills um where we both like read in silence that's so beautiful what's time did you put food down oh my god i had to go down so early so we my baby's a good napper like we nap the schedule and he just like didn't take his morning nap it was so crazy like my whole earth the axis on which i saw i was kind of confused then he took like a big nap in the middle of the day and by like five six o 'clock he was like girl get me out of here so i had to put him down like 6 30.

12:54Jackie Oshry:got it nice so from seven to eight then i had a 30 minute call with amazon just like trying to get an order canceled i thought like a like a biz call like no not at 8 p.m but a customer service and they have like she's on calls with amazon i yeah no i had a call with amazon's like global customer service um because i ordered like yeah because we were having a real language barrier issue me and the um operator was so frustrating and i just was trying to get like i ordered something over a week ago and it's been like delayed and so i was just like i cancel it i don't need it like i'll place it again whatever um seven items seven tickets like it was just non-stop and then i was talking and he couldn't hear me and i was like 25 minutes in i was like hello hello i was being so crazy and i was talking for like he he wouldn't hang up but he didn't hear me and then he was like i hear you i hear you and it was just it was actually very traumatic

13:53Claudia Oshry:she was on a call with amazon seven lawyers seven lawyers seven business deals like

13:58Jackie Oshry:seven orders

14:03Jackie Oshry:it's exhausting like operating at the level that i am business wise like you bitches could fucking never. She's working late into the night. I'm called to Amazon. I'm working late into the night. I'm called to Amazon. Because one thing about like the hustle never stops. And once you reach like you're like I operate at a very high level. And I think that like people probably can't relate to it. The idea of like working on a big business deal when I should be spending time with my like after my baby goes down. And that's why and that's why people are where they are. And I'm at where I'm at because I'm operating at a different level markets.

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21:05Claudia Oshry:dr our first story alex v alex licks v lex continues as alex earl just reposted a very damning TikTok about Alex Cooper.

21:17Jackie Oshry:It was like a cultural commentary on the state of the world. Basically, she called Alex Cooper like a digital ambulance chaser where somebody goes through the world.

21:25Claudia Oshry:The TikTok that Alex Earl reposted is from this account. It's called The Bravo Man. She just had decided to, you know, woke up. Give a take. Decided to take down or, you know, give her hot take about what Alex Cooper's doing.

21:37Jackie Oshry:It was a harsh video, like her tone. But I understood what she was saying. It was like weird how, you know, in this culture, like the worst thing ever happens to you and the first thing you do is go to call her daddy like

21:47Claudia Oshry:the worst thing happens to you and Alex Cooper shows up with a microphone she called her like an ambulance chaser a grim reaper she called her a grim reaper I thought ambulance chaser was interesting interesting way to put it and I um I feel like we've been saying this it's like why does the worst thing have to happen like why can't Jesse Draper go and call her daddy as a married woman like why does she have to get divorced Rachel Kirkconnell is an influencer and what someone broke up with her and now like she didn't do anything she just got broken up with like why is this like the new trope that like you can't go and do an interview or have a conversation until like the worst thing happens to you and and then and we were talking about this and you were saying like that's just the culture now like people want to hear from Rachel Kirkano when she's broken up people want to hear from Jesse Draper and it's like and even though like journalists have always sort of you know interviewed people in vulnerable moments to share their truths like this feels just like a new thing and it also feels like people are almost

22:39Jackie Oshry:doing the things so they can have a moment. Do you know what I mean?

22:42Claudia Oshry:And it's not just call her daddy, I want to say. Like, even with Ariana and Amanda Batula when she got divorced, like all these brands, like she was the same person that she filed for divorce as she did before. So like, why couldn't she be in a Tropicana commercial before? Like, why does someone have to go through something terrible for us to like uplift them? If we like them, why can't we just uplift them?

23:03Jackie Oshry:So in terms of the girl's actual video, I do feel like she missed the mark because she was like exclusively blaming alex cooper where alex cooper's just like doing her job i think like a larger conversation is like why are people so obsessed with like you know unpacking trauma publicly and bringing down people they once loved like though like i actually appreciated the video and the whole concept of like an ambulance chaser was a good analogy she was a little harsh to alex cooper calling her grim reaper and um an ambulance chaser and then alex earl reposted it yeah and i just want to say

23:34Claudia Oshry:back to the like why are we all so obsessed and also why are people doing this to themselves like get out of a relationship take a beat you know like you don't need to go and spill the beans like it's every it's it's everyone is at like fault here the people who consume it the people who produce it and the people who participate in it what's so funny is like we had actually commended

23:56Jackie Oshry:Amanda Batula for not really going so far down that path she didn't do a sit-down interview she didn't air out Kyle's dirty laundry I guess there's nothing to air out like what we've seen

24:04Claudia Oshry:is probably what goes on on a frequent basis in her house yeah and I just think um I I yeah I guess so and maybe she was just like so moved on I do feel like also she has a medium which is her show and then she had her next show and I feel like if she like really started to like go out there and tell her story it would have like diluted the next show so maybe it was less about like keeping things private because she's literally on a reality show showing the worst of her life and more about like saving it for her saving it for the show yeah yeah that's true so then alex earl

24:33Jackie Oshry:reposted alex earl is in coachella by the way coachella's this weekend like i'm so sad ready to watch young kids um and it's so interesting to watch like who's with what influencers who's at what brands alex who usually goes with like poppy or like a big brand she has her own house this year real activis and it's her and her friends like some who we know obviously sally patrick todd is like a really good friend of hers i guess he also maybe does her makeup which is nice um is jake shane there no jake shane has his house with poppy yeah it's very interesting

25:02Claudia Oshry:that is interesting so then yes alex earl reposted this really damning tiktok about alex cuburn obviously we know there's drama the unwell drama there's been like whispers but this is like she's you know activating she's activicing this feud once again alex earl is

25:19Jackie Oshry:sort of edging us she is she's confirmed that there's beef she replies to random comments but she won't sort of sit down and tell us and I respect somebody who doesn't want to tell but then you can't talk about it in any other way but if you're gonna like you know give us little hints sorry you gotta sit down and do a tell-all I need to know although I feel like I can pretty much gather what happened I don't think there's like some big secret or moment I think that Alex Earl feels that she was just you know sprung into fame and really young really impressionable and sort of taken advantage of i think she probably got like a not an amazing deal for her podcast because unwell's like a small company and it was a smaller company back then um and so much of her success was tied to alex or cooper's success so like i think she and then her dad came in and was probably like this deal sucks we're out he wasn't managing her in the beginning and then like you know the questions about her sexual stuff that she felt uncomfortable with and had been asked during the call her dad interview like asking this actual college girl if she's had anal like it was fucking crazy that's so crazy that was crazy and the rumors that i had heard was that like alex had asked for her to take that out and she didn't um and then it's all under the mask of like being a woman who supports other women right which is sort of a theme recently that like the women who support other women are actually some of the nastiest bitches you've ever seen in your life i'm not calling alex cooper a nasty bitch i'm just saying like it's a theme um so i don't think that like there's this big like you know letter i think it was more so like the podcast

26:49Claudia Oshry:didn't work out the and like they each probably like blame each other and it just wasn't the right fit but i will say like when alex earl took went to unwell like it didn't make sense then like it wasn't like it was a bad start on her part it wasn't like she was starting out alex cooper scooped her up like before she knew better like she had systems in place she is like the biggest influencer in the world and decided to like one do a podcast when she's like a beauty influencer right and to do it there like it wasn't like I don't know who if she wasn't working with her dad like who was her team at the time but like just like random you know like regular agents and

27:24Jackie Oshry:managers and publicists who work in the industry I believe they shared a publicist for a very long

27:28Claudia Oshry:time well whoever her team was it wasn't a good move and she was already the number one influencer

27:33Jackie Oshry:in the world so she had good teams well but it was you know quite brilliant on Alex Cooper's part because I remember when Alex Earl was really blowing up she was such an obvious choice to go on Call Her Daddy. And she wasn't on it. And it wasn't until Alex Cooper signed the deal. And then they did this big episode where they went back to her hometown and then went to Miami. So it was almost like, because I do feel like in a small way, Alex Earl, not so much anymore, but she was sort of a threat to Alex Cooper, you know, very much like Barstool Smoke Show, Hot Young Thing type of vibe. Alex Cooper has sort of evolved past that.

28:05Jackie Oshry:And so has Alex Earl. They're not both like that anymore. But I do think that if she had just gave her a platform with no strings attached it would have sort of maybe not been great for alex cooper so she was very wise in snatching her up and then propping her up because it's like yeah well if you're crushing it i'm crushing it too um and i think maybe alex earl just feels taken advantage of by that whole experience in addition to like you know not taking out the questions that she had asked her to take

28:31Claudia Oshry:out yeah editing stuff and maybe there's other like bits and bobs that we don't know but i agree It's not like this big thing like, oh, she stole from me.

28:38Jackie Oshry:And they both go by like Big Al. That's like their nicknames. It's so weird.

28:42Claudia Oshry:I guess like anyone who's named Alex, like that's, you're like a Big Al.

28:46Jackie Oshry:I had never heard it until like Alex Earl. I'm not close with an Alex. I don't think I am either. Meanwhile, my best friend texted me. Hello, my name is Alex. No, I don't think I'm going to be Alex's. Oh my God, literally.

28:57Claudia Oshry:I have to search through my phone. Yeah, me too. Hold on. Oh my God. By the way, you know how the other week I shared that I searched through my phone for my kids names to see like who I know that has their name I inspired others to do as well

29:09Jackie Oshry:I maintain that I'm not close with an Alex me too I feel safe though I have someone in my phone

29:16Claudia Oshry:named Alex period um with no last name oh but I have a note that's funny with how I know them That's really funny. I'm hysterical. I love that for you. I'm hysterical.

29:31Jackie Oshry:I need this to come out. I'm like getting over it. Do you think it will be a third of the show?

29:36Claudia Oshry:Because it does feel like she's like sort of being like, it does feel like. She's starting stuff, especially with the date story. Leading towards something.

29:44Jackie Oshry:I'm down. I'm going to watch regardless. And I hope so. Yeah. And I think her dad almost like can't help himself if it comes up. Yeah. I think based on what I heard, like he was one of the main driving forces between her leaving and like he really hates her. Alex Cooper.

30:02Claudia Oshry:Understood. Our next story is also not great for Alex Cooper.

30:07Jackie Oshry:Oh, my God. This was really shocking on Alex Cooper's part. I feel like we've been talking about her so much recently. Yeah. But don't you feel like she's making some like weird out of character choices?

30:17Claudia Oshry:Yes, especially this next one. So on Unwell Winter Games, which is the new reality winter game competition series from Unwell that is now on YouTube starring a bunch of like reality stars, influencers, etc. Dancing with the Stars pro Gleb Savchenko called Brooks Nader the worst sex he's ever had. So in a really horrifying scene between Gleb and Dakota, Nightmare Duo.

30:42Jackie Oshry:Two of the best guys that I know. Nightmare Duo. Gleb doesn't get enough hate. If you watch season one of Love Thy Nader, he was like revenge porning. He should have been fired from Dancing with the Stars for that, like threatening to release their intimate moments that they had recorded or whatever.

30:57Claudia Oshry:That's by the way, that's what we speculated. They never said what it was, but that was sort of true. That's what we thought. Whatever. Even if it wasn't that it was something that was like absolutely destroying Brooks from the inside, like that he was threatening. He was like blackmailing her.

31:10Jackie Oshry:He's a really bad guy. Yeah. He doesn't get enough hate. No. Like he's up there with the Dakotas. Like he's a bad guy.

31:17Claudia Oshry:Yeah. It's shocking that he was on Dancing with the Stars, but he was paired with Hilaria. So we thought that was punishment. Yeah. And even though like, sorry, I like Hilaria. And they were like voted out early. So we didn't have to deal with him, but then he was cast on Unwell Winter Games. And then this line made it to air. He talks about dating Brooks to Dakota, who like talked about dating Taylor and like hit whatever, sharing their.

31:39Jackie Oshry:He got like her, his tattoos, initial, initial tattoos.

31:43Claudia Oshry:And he said, when I dated her Brooks, it was pretty bad he said it was probably the worst sex of my life he also claimed that brooks chipped his tooth once he said she was so fucked up she wanted to make out with me and i was like that's not my vibe she choked me pushed me against the wall chipped my tooth

32:03Jackie Oshry:first of all i just want to say i don't believe him like i don't believe you could have sex with brooks nader and it not be good of course even if she has no skills she's brooks fucking right And let me tell you, she has killed.

32:12Claudia Oshry:She has said that the sex with him was really good. So it's not like you're having sex and one person's having an amazing time and one person's having the worst time. No, sometimes that happens. But it's the man who's having an amazing time and the girl is in hell. Right. And then you still be in a relationship with them for months even though it's the worst. So he's just a liar. Yeah, he's such a liar. And that's such a nasty thing. And even if it's the truth, which I don't believe it is, that's such a nasty thing to say.

32:37Jackie Oshry:Of course. It goes back to what we were saying earlier. Like this is a person who you shared moments with. Brooks did nothing to him except love him. He cheated on her and then blackmailed her. Like, I don't know what the fuck he could be mad at her for. Right. So for him to say it, it's just like, first of all, you look like such a loser. Like she, like, you know, you got caught. And so now you're being like, and she was bad at sex. Like, okay. Oh my God. Middle school.

32:57Claudia Oshry:No.

33:00Claudia Oshry:Heist college. And she wasn't even a good cat.

33:03Jackie Oshry:Yeah. Yeah. But then for it to make it to air is like definitely a choice. Cause it's a very low blow. and like a borderline unethical thing to say, especially a show that's produced by like, we make content for women and we lift up women and women, women, women.

33:18Claudia Oshry:And if someone went on Call Her Daddy and told this story about their ex and what he did to her and that then he went on a show and said, Alex would sit there and be like, oh my God, you know?

33:31Jackie Oshry:Yeah. It's shocking. It's a, I do think it's a bad choice. Maybe not a bad choice. it's so incongruous with everything she's done thus far like really positioning herself as like the future is female she did a whole episode outside an abortion clinic like there and then recently with Dakota and now this it just feels so also did you see the clip of Eakin Sue from

33:53Claudia Oshry:calling Juliet Porter like a like a slut a death easy over and over again well she's easy you could take her home get her drunk and have sex with her and be done with her the next day she's so easy

34:03Jackie Oshry:easy easy easy what I think these people are disgusting a huda like I'm just not like I haven't

34:09Claudia Oshry:seen a clip of huda doing something on the show like but why we don't talk about women like that and certainly not like the person who's like writing all the rules for how like women should be treated and men are blah blah blah and you're gonna let this girl go on tv and say that juliet's easy for doing nothing and the guy she's talking to is like she seems nice fun juliet's the best by the way. It's the best. And it's like, it's not even like she's done anything. It's, or it seems like I haven't watched the show, but like the guy would have said if she had done something on the show that she's easy and desperate, whatever.

34:39Claudia Oshry:And you're like, you're going to let them talk about a woman that way. When like, who are you? You're like Mike Fleiss. Yeah. When this is supposed to be like the new generation of like respectful, we're not talking about people like that.

34:52Jackie Oshry:And we're not like, we're not lifting up men like that. It's maybe it wouldn't be so shocking if this was just like a regular show on like you know MTV not at all I wouldn't wouldn't even be a story honestly correct something about this just feels so weird and it feels like there's been like a like a definite like um shift shift in their strategy or just their overall brand ethos like maybe it wasn't working and so now they're just like you know slinging mud like everybody else but it is shocking yeah it is what's wrong with that girl I don't know and Gleb like I just want to say Gleb if I ever see you in

35:28Claudia Oshry:the streets like it's fucking on and i want to say hate him there's also beef between alex and brooksy already because it never which cooper or earl cooper it never made sense that brooks didn't go and call her daddy when she was promoting love thy nader they're both part of the hulu family

35:41Jackie Oshry:um yes i feel like maybe brooks wanted it with all the sisters and alex said no i don't think so i think there's beef yeah i think there's beef and i forgot about that that i thought and when

35:53Claudia Oshry:Brooks was everywhere and she wasn't there and they're both part of Hulu family it's so true I guess you know it with season two and now she maybe well no oh now yeah and now with this and the fact that like if they had any sort of like maybe Brooks like wasn't big enough but she isn't

36:08Jackie Oshry:she's so like call her daddy she's like always talking about guys she's dating and sex like it's

36:12Claudia Oshry:so call her daddy yeah she said like Nellie Furtado on she could have Brooks Nader on

36:18Jackie Oshry:not Nellie Furtado catching a stray and I just want to say I love Nellie Furtado okay I Right? Me too. I'm like a bird. But you can't make the argument that Brooks wasn't big enough. Yeah, yeah. No, you're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're absolutely right. Like Allie and AJ were on. Yeah. Like she can make it work. Yeah. No, not even. Like she was big enough. She was dating Carlos Alcaraz. Like. Yeah. Tom Brady.

36:44Claudia Oshry:She's. Yeah. So this is very no bueno.

36:49Jackie Oshry:No. Don't you feel like in the culture.

36:50Claudia Oshry:I guess we'll have to wait for season five of Love Thigh Nader to find out how

36:53Jackie Oshry:she feels about it in the year 2050 um don't you feel like the tides like seem to be turning don't you feel like the internet is turning on alex cooper a little bit i can sense it like and i think with sophia's book announcement it kind of started it and then when the book actually comes out in 100 years i do feel like just the way people talk about her it used to be different

37:14Claudia Oshry:yes i do but i think she is now too big at a level to cancel agreed so i don't think it will actually affect her make an impact and i think if she just like keeps doing what she's doing and i don't think she really pays attention to like haters and stuff i think she's like very um

37:32Jackie Oshry:focused like looking straight ahead you know what i mean and i think she's got like big things

37:37Claudia Oshry:happening and she doesn't care what this rando says about her here there and everywhere yeah yeah i don't think i agree that there could be something even if like the internet ever turned

37:48Jackie Oshry:on her it's not big enough to actually impact her and her business her business is huge yeah

37:51Claudia Oshry:agreed but yeah so if people want to like riot go ahead she's not listening yeah right say um are you ready for our next story number three yeah a break for alex cooper um taylor swift and travis kelsey's wedding date and location have been revealed

38:10Jackie Oshry:like and it's not what we thought already was june 13th in rhode island no apparently according to page six it's july 3rd in new york city why would that make any sense why would get married in New York City.

38:21Claudia Oshry:The Save the Dates have gone out and the source told page six it's New York City on July 3rd.

38:26Jackie Oshry:I'm not buying and I just want to say I don't believe that they're you send out Save the Dates to make sure everyone clears their weekend for this particular event and doesn't plan a trip. I could have a trip to the Maldives planned and I get that invitation and I'm canceling it non-refundable like they don't need to worry about people not being available. They're the type of people that you just make yourself available for.

38:47Claudia Oshry:I agree this is what

38:49Jackie Oshry:the news is saying like I don't buy for one second that they sent out a save the date send out save

38:54Claudia Oshry:the dates three months before the wedding like you send them out like the date has been saved a year before yeah and I just like I don't buy it an idea a twinkle in your eye now I could see her doing

39:06Jackie Oshry:July 3rd because it's like a holiday weekend in Rhode Island where she famously spends all of her July 4th weekends yeah but I'm sorry I'm not buying this for one second why the fuck would

39:17Claudia Oshry:they get married in the city apparently july 4th is her favorite holiday oh that's so cute and and this july 4th is america's 250th birthday it was just 250 it was her 250th birthday yeah it was his 250th birthday great reference um so maybe she's just like feeling super patriotic i just imagine logistically you know let's think about it from a multitude of angles like

39:44Jackie Oshry:I think logistically perhaps for privacy reasons maybe it's easier to get privacy in the city than

39:50Claudia Oshry:it is like in a big open field or you know yes but I'm gonna consider I'm gonna just like think I don't think privacy is going to be her number one concern when it comes to her wedding I think that's interesting I think it's like top five top three even but I think she's going to get married where she wants to get married and she's not gonna let like everyone's it's gonna be a free for all regardless and I think it's like it's so exciting and it's all positive and love and like

40:14Jackie Oshry:she's like low-key religious do you think she got married at like saint patrick's cathedral maybe and then and then it would be truly like an american royal wedding where people would wait outside and like she would get into her carriage like yeah that's what we need like william and

40:26Claudia Oshry:kate we just like need that to live yeah but if she got married like in a venue um like the new york public library or whatever like you can't really get cameras in there no but you can you have to pull up to the street and walk in and that would be so amazing to get pictures of people walking in like it's the Met Gala or something.

40:45Jackie Oshry:Yeah.

40:45Claudia Oshry:So I feel like, I think she's going to get married where she wants to get married. And maybe it is New York City. She like loves New York.

40:50Jackie Oshry:She does. She loves a lot of places though. I would be shocked. Like really shocked. Yeah.

40:56Claudia Oshry:Just because it's just so random. Like not random, but like regular. Yeah. Is there anywhere of significance to them in the city?

41:04Jackie Oshry:I mean, they love Chez Margot. They go all the time. Was there like, one of their early dates was Zero Bond. Not a place you get married at. Like. They could get married at the Met. They could get married anywhere. They could close down Central Park if they wanted to. That's my dream wedding. The park. Central Park is literally the most gorgeous place on the planet. I remember when Josh Peck came on the podcast and you two spoke about parks for an hour. That was before I became a mom. And I was like, okay, I'll skip that episode. Let me tell you, I love parks. And I appreciate parks now in new and different ways.

41:34Jackie Oshry:But Central Park is the most gorgeous park ever. It's so iconic. if I could like close down Central Park for my wedding and like you just walk down the aisle like you know. Well isn't that like what the boathouse used to be? Yeah but that's just like a stinky restaurant.

41:51Claudia Oshry:And it closed. Yeah. There's Tavern on the Green. You know what I'm saying. She's not getting married at Tavern on the Green.

41:57Jackie Oshry:Not at a restaurant. At the actual park.

42:00Claudia Oshry:Maybe she'll get.

42:00Jackie Oshry:Like every entrance to the park is closed.

42:02Claudia Oshry:I mean you could maybe pay the city a lot of money to do that. But they would have to clear.

42:06Jackie Oshry:Well Central Park is like run by a private conservatory. So you probably could. They shut down parts of it for that Global Citizens Festival. Yeah. You could probably shut down. You don't need the whole park. No, no. Like the good part, like around like 59th Street where you get like the east side, west side, south side views.

42:20Claudia Oshry:If you're really like into Central Park, you should watch that episode of Ken Burns, New York. The one where they build Central Park because it's really like a feat. I should. It's a feat of engineering and also like the planning and the thought behind it where it's like when you're in the park, you actually don't see any buildings in the city really unless you're at the edges. Only when you're down at the edge. Yeah, at the edges. But like when you're in the park, like you only see trees. It's like a complete oasis. What they did to like build the park and like love. It's really amazing.

42:47Jackie Oshry:Oh, my God. I would love to watch that. You should. It's really interesting. Kind of have like a lot of plans this weekend. I'm going to like a big influencer dinner.

42:54Claudia Oshry:What's it for?

42:56Jackie Oshry:Just like a couple of my influencer friends are in town.

42:58Claudia Oshry:Oh, who? Shan. Yeah. Shannon. And some others.

43:02Jackie Oshry:Some others.

43:03Claudia Oshry:Who else? Why don't you tell us?

43:06Jackie Oshry:Stassi.

43:07Claudia Oshry:And so then Taylor. of course that's it that's cool just the four girls yeah just having like a foursome like a

43:15Jackie Oshry:quiet that's cute like keep it small and intimate of course just like true sisters and if you don't

43:20Claudia Oshry:listen to the toast you can't come of course not you'll have so much catching up to do big time i'm playing maj today so i'm not gonna be like too jealous because like i'm have fun so what if taylor got married at the pierre

43:35Jackie Oshry:yeah no by the way there are a million insanely gorgeous wedding venues yeah i would recommend

43:42Claudia Oshry:having an enormous wedding i think she's having like seriously like like not to say basic but like classic i mean a classic classic wedding i think two to three hundred guests yeah like literally it could be at the plaza the plaza um is not enormous they have like a cap because I don't know what it,

44:05Jackie Oshry:but maybe they could have like 200 people there.

44:07Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

44:08Jackie Oshry:Or like if she's - I feel like she's so downtown, you know? If she's still looking like - Cipriani Wall Street.

44:12Claudia Oshry:Cipriani. I would recommend the PR. I had an amazing experience. Like everyone did. Absolutely. The hotel's amazing. It smells so good. The guests loved it.

44:19Jackie Oshry:It's like a huge -

44:23Claudia Oshry:Cipriani's a good one.

44:26Jackie Oshry:Capital.

44:28Claudia Oshry:Yeah. But no, maybe - It's a little lowbrow. Maybe like the Met or like the Museum of Natural History. Like I feel like she's going to, you know, do it up a little bit.

44:35Jackie Oshry:I went to a wedding at the Museum of Natural History. It was sick. Yeah. She also went to a wedding at the Met. Also sick. I got in trouble.

44:41Claudia Oshry:Yeah. So I feel like maybe something like that. Though Travis Kelsey getting night at the Met makes me chuckle.

44:46Jackie Oshry:I hope he doesn't break anything. Yeah, because I just, yeah, like he'll just walk through and his shoulder were like, knock over an ancient Egyptian scripture. Yeah. Hate to see it.

44:54Claudia Oshry:So, I mean, who knows like if there's any truth to this, but I feel like page six is reporting it with certainty.

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49:28Claudia Oshry:welcome our next story jonah hill reveals he's married and quietly welcomed baby number two with

49:34Jackie Oshry:wife olivia millar not ruthie jonah further proof that celebrities can have privacy if they want it Right. And any celebrity who's complaining about privacy while also getting paparazzi'd every day is lying to you.

49:47Claudia Oshry:Jonah Hill revealed in a new interview alongside Martin Sorskazy for Interview Magazine that he is married to his longtime lady love, Amelia Millar, and the couple recently welcomed their second baby. A rep for Hill confirmed the news to People saying the actor is happy. As Jonah spoke with Martin, he shared that it takes a special type of project to separate him from his family. He said, quote, and I have two kids now. The only thing that could separate me from my family is the editing room. I love the writing. I love the shooting. But editing, it's like dessert every day. Even the problems are dessert.

50:17Claudia Oshry:Elsewhere in the article, he referred to Olivia as his wife, seemingly confirming that they are married. So cute.

50:26Jackie Oshry:Like, again, we didn't know one of the biggest movie stars in the world was married with two kids. It's possible. Celebrities don't actually want privacy. and remember when he was like cancelled for that surfer girl who said he was like mean to her? Do you remember that whole story? He was dating a normie for a long time and then she came out and like showed like text messages that said he was abusive and it was just like no you both just go to too much therapy and talk to each other weirdly.

50:55Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

50:56Jackie Oshry:That was such a crazy time. That was a crazy time.

50:59Claudia Oshry:Yeah so I think he's really retreated a lot since then.

51:02Jackie Oshry:Because you know what? Going through something moronic like that is curative of like public uh affection because it's not worth it like it's not yeah and i don't think

51:12Claudia Oshry:that stuck to him no i can we can't even recall what it was yeah yeah good try well mazel mazel yeah very sweet very sweet it could have been ruthie living like a dream life could have been were they alas no are you alas no are you ready for our fifth and final story yeah feels right a little euphoria ex-alumni news natasha leone makes a red carpet one day after she was reportedly escorted off a flight so uh she's so nutty that natasha leone she went to our high school which is why we say alumni news oh oh i missed that that's really funny she did go to our high school and she's like the most famous alum she's so famous she's in so much stuff nothing that i've really ever watched and so it's like i know that this alum is so famous but i've actually never seen her in anything so i just hear about her i have seen her in orange

52:11Jackie Oshry:is the new black where she was i never watched that but her big breakout role was this show called russian doll on netflix that i never saw one minute of euphoria i never watched it i do

52:20Claudia Oshry:Jackie, I don't think she's in Euphoria. Maybe she's in the new season. She's a guest star on Euphoria. Oh, in the new season. Okay, okay, so I haven't seen her. No, and I think she's been in past seasons. I do. I don't think so. I think there was like one thing she was in. That you saw? Like growing up, it was like a 90s flick or something. She's really famous. She is really famous, but it's like. And she went to our high school. Oh, she was in Ad Astra. I did see Ad Astra.

52:46Jackie Oshry:Oh, so you're obviously familiar with her work. She's in GBF.

52:49Claudia Oshry:I've seen GBF

52:52Jackie Oshry:GBF gay best friend

52:54Claudia Oshry:You've seen that Of course I have If I haven't seen GBF nobody has She's from American Pie I never saw American Pie

53:03Jackie Oshry:Oh I don't It was so long ago I probably wouldn't recognize her

53:06Claudia Oshry:It's like is someone famous If I've never seen their stuff You know what I mean However I found the random movie that she was in That I have seen which is It was called but I'm a cheerleader And it's from 1999 and she plays like some deranged cheerleader and that's so something we would have watched that's so something we would watch now it was reported that she was escorted off of a flight

53:28Jackie Oshry:then she posted like a series of tweets about the flight just basically saying that she won't make

53:33Claudia Oshry:to the drew barrymore show she was flying to new york so this is what happened the um she was in her seat like ready for takeoff and flight attendants were asking her to close her laptop and fasten her seatbelt before takeoff she allegedly did not respond to repeated requests and appeared to be sleeping behind sunglasses. Then the plane taxied to the runway before returning to the gate where passengers were reportedly told one traveler would need to be rebooked. Natasha was then escorted off the aircraft with her belongings by a gate agent and the flight was delayed by just over an hour. She wound up getting on like the next flight to New York and making the premiere of Euphoria.

54:05Claudia Oshry:But she tweeted, quote, My heart is with all of the unpaid TSA agents at our airports. Sure was looking forward to speaking honestly with Drew Barrymore yesterday, but guess wasn't in the cards.

54:15Jackie Oshry:so something's not adding up um she's clearly lying and yeah i love throwing the tsa drama right yeah like that's a perfect response who can respond to that it had you made it through tsa so i don't know what this has to do with the tsa agents because you were successfully boarded um and something's not adding up because if she was asleep and they didn't realize like that's easily solvable wake her up and yeah like it's not a crime to fall asleep before takeoff of course

54:40Claudia Oshry:But she was obviously like not responsive. Now she also has like struggled with sobriety. She tweeted like recently that she had a relapse. And so it's not giving she was asleep.

54:51Jackie Oshry:Of course not. And if she was asleep, it was like under, you know, like a special type of sleep.

54:56Claudia Oshry:It was a special type of sleep. Exactly. That requires you to be squirted off the plane.

55:01Jackie Oshry:But I love that the TSA agents are like, you know, being blamed.

55:05Claudia Oshry:No, I don't think she's blaming them. I think she's like, she's saying, she's not even saying yes, this happened to me and with me. She's saying, look over there. That's what she said. She said, look over there.

55:20Claudia Oshry:Don't look over here. I'm blind. Yeah, because it's like when people, you know, you're being in an argument with someone and they're like, well, they're starving children. It's like, well, yeah.

55:29Jackie Oshry:Well, yes, there are. There are.

55:30Claudia Oshry:But I'm also upset. Yeah, but what about the thing we were talking about? I guess we're not talking about it anymore.

55:36Jackie Oshry:Right.

55:37Claudia Oshry:You know, it's kind of like a conversation ender. Mm-hmm. Because who would argue with that? No one. Not me. A monster. A monster wouldn't send love to our unpaid TSA agents. No.

55:49Jackie Oshry:No, and then you have to side with the person who's sending love to the unpaid TSA agents. Of course.

55:54Claudia Oshry:Because who wouldn't? Because I'm not a monster.

55:56Jackie Oshry:Yeah, right.

55:57Claudia Oshry:So I don't know if this sort of deflection was taught in our high school, but she obviously had a really great education. A plus in that.

56:06Jackie Oshry:it's such a fun fact it's literally my claim to fame i know and like i does our high school like

56:13Claudia Oshry:claim her you know i feel like they do on the wikipedia yeah she is i'm sure like you know she's part of their like most famous alum and we're like not even on the list not even on the list which is so crazy um i do believe the last time we spoke about this we were

56:29Jackie Oshry:like oh ow fuck just hit myself on the phone with a fucking phone ow um i do believe the last time we google like we were talking about this somebody went on our high school's um wikipedia and she's also in uncut gems never saw that never saw that so notable alum i'm cracking up fantastic four never saw it i'm cracking up do you know that isaac herzog went to our high school the 10th 11th president of israel i didn't know that so a lot of the people on this list are like people who work in government just because like we went to a jewish day school and like a lot of people end up like working in policy um but people who we might recognize of course natasha leone is on there leandra medin the man oh yes i don't feel like we talk about that enough either um i don't think we ever talked about that that's a good one it's a good one and we are not here We're not there.

57:28Jackie Oshry:So not only are we not here, but somebody removed us. I'm sorry.

57:32Claudia Oshry:Like, am I crazy or is that crazy?

57:35Jackie Oshry:Because I'm sorry. No offense to Larry Tans. Oh, take it back. Larry Tans, who's the VP of global television at Netflix, which I just want to say doesn't get you a notable alum. But Larry Tans, reach out to a fellow alum. We would love a show on Netflix. He's currently working there? It says VP of global television. Like, Larry Tans, call us. We need alums supporting other alums. um yeah i want to see who took us out because i know i'm looking at oh my god i'm cracking up what

58:10Jackie Oshry:okay you're gonna crack up i went to edit it and i just want to say i don't like edit wikipedia pages ever i went to edit it says your ip address has been blocked from editing wikipedia maybe someone in this building would this be the whole ip address like i don't or just where i'm sitting or your phone no ip address is like where you're located you know i'll try to do it when i get home that's really crazy your ip address has been blocked from editing wikipedia i was blocked by yamla y-a-m-l-a and the block will expire in two months what's yamla that's the username who blocked me who is she like why does she get remember when you edited something with like Fresca that was like a hundred Years ago for like a bit and I didn't get Blocked then I can't believe

59:01Claudia Oshry:I guess I could try but like I've Never edited a Wikipedia before It feels weird It's like a weird thing

59:12Jackie Oshry:I can't believe we like

59:16Claudia Oshry:That we're not there organically

59:20Jackie Oshry:wait i'm freaking out so you know on wikipedia you can like read the edits yeah so i'm in the wikipedia page of our former high school and i'm reading the comments people are fighting with one another about us um i'm sure they're fighting about stuff i feel like there's a lot of different

59:41Claudia Oshry:people come out of our high school who would argue with each other you know what i mean they're arguing what are they arguing about like politics well first of all they're arguing about

59:51Jackie Oshry:us i'm seriously cracking up that we are not eligible to be on the list because we don't have our own wikipedia pages like okay fine i don't want larry has one i guess okay okay fine

1:00:01Claudia Oshry:okay fine and who and and then what's the person is anyone defending us

1:00:06Jackie Oshry:no then they're arguing about whether or not dance should be included as an athletic team

1:00:14Jackie Oshry:so no one's defending us no of course not oh now there's a conspiracy theory is it true that bob ross went to ramaz please provide sources i never heard that

1:00:27Claudia Oshry:never heard it okay uh queenie and weenie and then we'll let you go i feel like a teacher

1:00:33Jackie Oshry:i'm sorry i just like can't get off the wikipedia page of our former high school

1:00:37Claudia Oshry:Okay, maybe do it on your own time, you know? I feel like I literally am a teacher. And put that snack away unless you have enough for the class.

1:00:48Jackie Oshry:Okay, welcome to Queenie and Weenie, our final segment of the week, where Jackie and I like to wrap up the week in a little bow, just take a look back at a glance. What went down this week? Who was a Queenie? Who was a Weenie? Thus, Queenie and Weenie of the Week. Let's start with Queenie of the Week. Are you ready?

1:00:59Claudia Oshry:I am ready. Someone actually sent this to me and said that this person should be Queenie of the Week, and I would say more often than not, I would disagree with whatever is being sent my way. but someone flagged me that at the masters this weekend scotty sheffler's wife is in attendance and she is 12 days postpartum doing that like thing on the course that they do before the masters where the kids come out and they all wear like a match knee jumpsuit with the family name and she's like carrying the baby in an artipop and like she's such a queenie she's actually like too much of a queenie and i actually don't know if i like i don't know if she should be there but like it's the masters it was the masters and how are you gonna miss that day it's like the cutest day on planet earth so how are you like not going to be there in the and they have another kid who

1:01:37Jackie Oshry:is there so she has to like of course last time scotty won the masters she gave that kid to scotty for a picture and he had blown out his diaper and shit and shit all over his back i i love it it's

1:01:48Claudia Oshry:so iconic and the older kid like is a toddler and can work walk is like the perfect age to like participate in this event and so like the mom has to be there so like yeah we're bringing the baby and um so she's a queenie for like managing all of that it's like almost like too much that she She managed like Jen Affleck on Dancing with the Stars.

1:02:01Jackie Oshry:She sets it unrealistic standard.

1:02:02Claudia Oshry:No, when it's like get in the bed and just, but you're like the masters are a huge deal. And so like, she's just like the most supportive queenie, like woman I ever saw.

1:02:10Jackie Oshry:And I thought it was an amazing advertisement for Artie Pop. Cause when I saw that she was wearing a carrier, I'm like, which one is it? It's probably Artie Pop. And it was,

1:02:16Claudia Oshry:yeah, that's my favorite. The one, the color that she's wearing. It's like such an amazing character carrier. And like just having that newborn, that newborn is like having the best day of his life. They're like all cuddled up, like at the masters with like his big brother or sister. Brother. Brother. with his brother.

1:02:31Jackie Oshry:That's beautiful. My Queenie is actually in the room with us. The frames. It's a person.

1:02:43Jackie Oshry:Caitlyn Jenner. Now my Queenie is actually. Me. Me. Oh my God. Why? Because guess what I did. Just part of our family lore is that the VHS from Jackie and Olivia's Bat Mitzvah, sorry, Bat Not Mitzvah, because they had it together, whatever, went missing like ages ago. It's sort of been this thing we've always been looking for. Guess who found it? Me. Guess who got it digitized? Me. It arrived this morning. I'm going to post some clips on my TikTok because it is so steany-coated. First of all, the four of us have the thickest Long Island accents. And you know, back, if you ever went to like an OG early 2000s bat mitzvah there was like this huge videographer who would walk around with a microphone and you would make like this video diary all the guests being like Jackie you did amazing this morning can't wait to party with you tonight you look beautiful love you and me and Margo like had like eight testimonials and we're so like

1:03:40Claudia Oshry:Jacqueline I kept calling you Jacqueline I know I feel like and my name Jacqueline was like all over the bat mitzvah and I guess like our mom had to decide like is it gonna be like Olivia and Jackie's but no my name is Jacqueline so like everything was Jacqueline you're probably like used to seeing Jacqueline on the signage so that night you were calling me Jacqueline or no the

1:03:54Jackie Oshry:guy who was hired to do the video said give a message to olivia and jack yeah because like that's what he saw on the sign like i'm like jack will and you guys look amazing i love you guys

1:04:02Claudia Oshry:so much the thing is if you heard if you guys watch this clip with your eyes closed and just listen to it you would never in a million years guess that it's claudia and margo talking it's two completely different voices i never heard those voices in my life and it's also just it's

1:04:16Jackie Oshry:it's not damaged at all so it's this 90 minute video our dad is on it he's like talking i haven't her voice like I'm like who's that it is I'm a queenie I am literally so amazing for having not only found it but also then taking the initiative to get it digitized I'm incredible I'm an amazing

1:04:33Claudia Oshry:sister daughter mother and friend watching it I felt like I was watching an episode of like my super sweet 16 or something like yeah in the beginning like we wrote that they're filming like our family car like our hummer rolls up we all like come out of the car first of all I don't know like I look like such a brat I like didn't even smile or anything you were actually the only one night you like wave to the camera you're such a ham like even from day one but like i'm literally

1:04:55Jackie Oshry:jackie you have to watch i obviously had just learned how to wink yes yes oh my god so in all the confessionals and by the way you only have to do it once i did it like six times everything was hounding them i was like love you guys so much and then like winking four times like i just i

1:05:11Claudia Oshry:clearly the day before learned how to wink yeah no but you were so cute and like just all of us walking out of the home i felt like i'm watching like an old reality show the way that was filmed That's exactly what it feels like. Also like Queenie to the videographer who like filmed our bat mitzvah like an episode of my super sweet 16. That was clearly like the trends in video at the time. He slayed our grandparents are in there. It's insane. It's insane. I feel like we've been talking so much about our childhood just like on Patreon and going down memory lane for some odd reason. Also like when you have kids and now we look at old pictures like see which kids look like what whatever.

1:05:45Claudia Oshry:To now watch this when we're like in this moment of really appreciating it is so crazy.

1:05:50Jackie Oshry:no it arrived this morning we were watching it like as i was picking stories i'm like i have to put this down because i have to pick the stories i only watched 11 minutes and it's 90 minutes long and it's completely intact like i can't believe like my piano like we all like did a mini recital

1:06:03Claudia Oshry:at the we did like a performance because we all played instruments we did a quartet we used to like perform as a quartet the four of us like i was on the well actually that wasn't for quartet i'm on the cello you're on the guitar guitar olivia's on the piano and margo's on the flute

1:06:19Jackie Oshry:flute so yeah we used to perform together with her flute like i'm sorry it's so cute and if you

1:06:24Claudia Oshry:know the recorder story from patreon this week like it just hits even harder so head over to my tiktok to see some of the clips and head over to patreon to hear the story of margo and her flute the story behind the clips and yeah like another sleigh like not as like performing at it we are

1:06:41Jackie Oshry:the entertainment i am the entertainer and like sometimes when our parents would like have a party

1:06:47Claudia Oshry:we would all perform our quartet.

1:06:49Jackie Oshry:They would like wake us up and be like, get back to the piano.

1:06:51Claudia Oshry:No, we were like so happy to stay up. We were so excited. We were so happy. That meant we could stay up like for the party, see everything and like do our thing. We're hysterical.

1:06:59Jackie Oshry:We're hysterical. We are so cute. We have always been this like unit. And just to see it, what year was your bat mitzvah? Like 2005? Yeah, maybe. And I'm so thin. It's insane. I'm such a fucking queenie in that video. I'm one pound. And like naturally.

1:07:16Claudia Oshry:Yeah, I'm very thin as well. but you are thinner.

1:07:19Jackie Oshry:Stop. I feel sick. I'm so jealous.

1:07:21Claudia Oshry:If I was 12, so it's like 2004. If you were 12. No, 2005 sounds right because, um, 2005. If you don't want to say, you don't have to. No, because it was in June. I don't want to like, it's in June, my birthday's in November. Okay, 2005. Great. 2005 it is. Oh my gosh, so gotta go watch that. I know. And then weenie. I don't, I want to end on a high. I didn't have a weenie. You know what's so funny?

1:07:44Jackie Oshry:I had two people for Queenie this week and I couldn't think of a weenie, which is so not me. Who was my other queenie? Oh, shout out to Carol. She was also a queenie. Who? Carol, the bright spot in the sky that the astronaut from Artemis named after his late wife.

1:08:00Claudia Oshry:Oh, oh, oh.

1:08:01Jackie Oshry:That whole situation was queenie as well.

1:08:02Claudia Oshry:That was queenie. Yeah, no, I'm like, I'm going to end on positive. I didn't have a weenie and I'm not going to muster one up to like burst our bubble. Agreed. Go into this weekend with positivity.

1:08:12Jackie Oshry:Hype, everybody. It's a great weekend. Cannot wait to recap Coachelli on Monday. Sabrina, Bieber, everyone's like freaking out about Biebercella. I'm personally just looking forward to like the influencers and the brands, you know. Me as well.

1:08:23Claudia Oshry:Margo's there, boots on the ground. So if there's any tea, like we will get it from her. Oh, Sachi is there, boots on the ground. Yeah.

1:08:29Jackie Oshry:All right, you guys. Love you so much. Have a great weekend. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast on the Night morning show. We deliver the fast five stories you need to do every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give us a video with thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast and where podcasts can be found. So that's Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher, Public Radio, I-R-R-Dcast, Box, all the places This is why we listen to podcast. My message is to leave a five star view about a beautiful setting and weekly town that we are, you know,

1:08:44Claudia Oshry:love ya. Bye.

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