Beyonce, 'Brina and Baldoni: Monday, February 3rd, 2025

30:43Yes, I can. Also like the lore, I mean, like how unfortunate for Drake that like the diss track, somebody wrote about you literally won Grammy for record of the year. Like that's embarrassing. He wore a Canadian tuxedo, Kendrick Lamar. And like, I admire his commitment to disliking his enemy. Like that is something that I find admirable. And it's not something you see a lot in men. You know, it's kind of like a girly thing to do to hate your enemy and like hold a grudge. So I really respect that. I do in a profound way. So I'm not mad. It wasn't what I was expecting because I think I probably would have said Sabrina or Chap.

31:18Yeah. Or honestly, especially seeing those streaming numbers, Billie Eilish. Because one, I don't know which one's which, but one song of the year is about how the song is written. like the musical perfection and production the production I think that's maybe song that's record that I think that's record okay and then the other one is about popularity what was the song of the year and I do think birds of a feather or espresso were the songs of the year but I'm like I'm not that mad about it I agree and this is where like while I found the weekend's like public tantrum to be really lame and embarrassing I do understand how frustrating it must be for there to be like no criteria for these awards and like there are all these rumors you know they say you have to sell x amount they say you have to do this but there really is no way of knowing what qualifies a song and what disqualifies a song so that frustration and lack of transparency what they were talking about like i i agree that's definitely annoying i don't know if it's enough to like boycott the affair but because for this like i don't necessarily understand it wasn't the most streamed song is that why they kept saying the 13 000 voting members i think so like they wanted us to know that's them being transparent okay i do feel like they vote and that's what it is they don't just like give it to people based on who's coming because everyone comes agreed but maybe those voting members like do feel swayed in one way or another like based on gender no i'm kidding based on a million different things based on josey yelling at them last year i don't know right well so when we get to album of the year i do want to talk about that next is album of the year and also must be said that country album of the year went to beyonce cowboy carter so then it was like very clear it's going to be between like her and sabrina sabrina because if you won one you would have to win the other and album also notable notable is that she won some i think one or two off-air grammys but charlie xcx did not pick up any grammys on tv last night did you watch the major categories um no i haven't had a chance to yet and i'm so curious how it was because I've been really hard on her and I wanted to know like how she did I'll watch it I saw various clips um and I know that there was like lots of underwear being thrown around I don't know that it was like you know for you I will watch it with an open mind okay um um but album of the year yes this was kind of always the big category this was so stacked between Sabrina chap billy eilish taylor the beatles um brat right so yes it became increasingly clear over the night over the course of the night that it was either going to be beyonce or sabrina because they both won their i don't know how you could have the best country album and then that album is nominated you know what i mean like or how like taylor could win when she didn't win best pop vocal against sabrina so yes so sabrina kind of disqualified all the girls when she won that pop vocal and then sabre and then beyonce put herself in the race when she won and beyonce's reaction to winning country album was so hysterical i think she sat in her chair three seconds before she was not expecting to win and why did they stop like putting the camera on everybody's faces when they announced the winner do you know what i mean they used to like have a camera in the face of every nominee i love that they didn't do that okay lame yeah they showed people but um i don't know not in an organized fashion yeah so her reaction was hysterical blue Ivy was like get the hell up and you could tell she was really shocked I was shocked I'm not gonna lie because it was a really first of all this is a country album that's been like very highly contested by the country community like she wasn't nominated for one CMA CMA so that's really kind of shocking um and then for it to go on and win album of the year was really shocking now I feel this way about so many award shows that Beyonce's either attending performing or just like a part of the way that other people I feel like I've said this before the way that other artists other the host who we have to talk about the way they talk about Beyonce is so weird to me like when Miley was giving the award to Bruno and Lady Gaga for a duo pop whatever and she opened the envelope and before she read it she was like I'm gonna say it's Beyonce even if it's not like this it border everybody in the room respects Beyonce so much and I think that a couple of years ago they took it to a point that's almost now inappropriate where it's not like a reverence it's an obsession it's like idolatry and i feel like it does circle back to that like conspiracy theory that people were saying that people always like that's why the conspiracy theory became so popular because the way people talk about beyonce is actually not normal like her her peers and maybe i'm a miley apologist though i do feel like miley actually genuinely loves her they are for sure friends they did collab like she's been talking about i just want to say she was talking about beyonce like that before everyone was so just like but trevor noah Noah in the monologue standing in front of like the biggest artists in the world and just talking about how we like Beyonce like I think that a lot of people have so that it would have been weird if she didn't win album of the year because of like how he set it up in the beginning yeah no and it's like this is a special night for everyone involved including Beyonce but also like the first time artists nominated people from different genres and I just feel like it so many times these award shows feel like Beyonce's bat mitzvah not not and by the way not because of anything Beyonce does because of the way people act around her and it actually feels like not a level playing field yeah I agree but I think you could say the same thing about Taylor sometimes it gets like that's Taylor's bat mitzvah yeah but I think a lot of times it feels like Taylor's bat mitzvah because she acts like it's her bat mitzvah and she's like dancing and stuff like not because everyone around her is acting that way do you know what I mean I think because she's sort of the main character of her own life and she's just always having fun she caught the jacket like that sort of attention like just she like it kind of follows her around whereas I feel like everybody acts really weird about me around Beyonce it's true Beyonce's just sitting there like she's just sitting there like trying to enjoy her night with her family I actually think she doesn't like it it's weird and it's like it's it's so much attention when like even in that moment the attention should have been on someone else like if she wins obviously like the attention's on Beyonce but people are just like always like Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars won and it was like a Beyonce thing I'm sure Beyonce was actually horrified yeah it was weird and no shade to Miley like I love Miley I just think it's indicative of like people always are acting so weird I don't know I feel like if she really like hated it so much like it would get out there and people wouldn't do it and and now I do think about the theory like that people are just not Miley Miley is separate case but like people do that to make themselves as safe now the Beyonce thing also Now, it's obviously not her problem, but it is really crazy that she showed up with her husband.

37:49And I guess as like a community, we're just like moving past the Me Too movement. Like we just are done with that. I think we're picking and choosing, right? Because there was a time like that if a man who was accused of trigger warning, raping a 13 year old, showed up to an award show, nobody would be dancing with him. Nobody would be high fiving him. Like it was. It's probably one of the most egregious allegations I've ever heard. And it's fairly new. so I have a hard time like seriously looking at him it's so crazy to me and everyone it's like totally normal and this is like you know with the p diddy stuff all coming out like I would think people would be like a little bit more yeah well it's full of like unscrupled people who until like Jay-Z is finished like they are still gonna like hobnob and hobnob and kiss ass to whoever they think like that's just who these people are so trying to find like you know your morality in the crowd like it's not gonna happen that's i know it was just very jarring honestly he's so jarring enjoy the pretty he's jarring to see like i can't it's like it's literally a jump scare yeah and i think you said on friday that like people wouldn't no longer like be intimidated by jay-z into like doing what he like last year when he was like how is my wife never won album of the year she's the most awarded woman that makes no sense and i was like i think she'll win this year like because of that and you said no like jay-z doesn't have that power anymore like i think he still very much does because cowboy carter was not the album of the year no it wasn't And I imagine it hits different to win the award after the year before your husband threw a tantrum about it.

39:15No, and it's also, it's like when Leonardo DiCaprio won the Oscar for Revenant. And it's like, no, he deserved it for Titanic. Yes, exactly. And there's so much lore around it. He probably didn't even want it at this point. It's embarrassing. Yeah, no, and to get it for the thing that you actually don't really deserve it for. And you were worthy other times. Many times. I don't know. I mean, it's still nice to just get. And I do think the Oscars are also cumulative. like it's about a person's like body of work I think we've like learned that on this show before um but which also doesn't make sense when they give it to someone random who's in one thing one time and we never hear about them again but sure this was not the time to win album of the year no I think the Leonardo DiCaprio comparison is a perfect one because these are two people who like got to a point in their careers and we're all looking around being like how how have they been stumped for album of the year so many times and then they get it and it's like well good they deserve to have that award in their in their uh artillery but not for this particular work cowboy carter was not the album of the air when you think about albums as a whole body of work that like took the culture by storm there were just others that did it bigger and better um you could see it in the streams even brat got more streams than cowboy carter yeah and the thing is like even though i didn't think brat should win i could have made an argument for most of the nominees not the beatles um yeah I could have made an argument for like different albums to have won and I don't have an argument for Cowboy Carter yeah so and I just want to say it's probably the most I've listened to any Beyonce album because I love country music so it's not that I don't think it was good I'm just talking about how it was perceived and how it was received by everyone right and just because she's never won it before like didn't it would be like if everyone was up in arms that Taylor never won song of the year so she think she won song of the year for fortnight like that was just not the song of the year and it wouldn't be deserving of it and you want to correct an old error don't now air someone else because someone else in this category in a few years will never have one album of the year it's like oh well they should have won that year but exactly it's so true because if they didn't give it to Beck Beyonce would have it right and why did they give it to Beck because he was like the single soul songwriter that was it was like every song was like written produced everything by Beck Beck Beck Beck and then you look at Beyonce's album and it's like a million people who cares I don't care how many people like was it the best album was it good this album yeah um i want to talk about trevor noah um and how it's time to retire like from this particular line of work he was so unfunny and so unnecessary because every time he showed up he was just introducing an introducer yeah yeah so i really felt like he was so unnecessary like just being there his jokes were not funny at all he didn't even like try to push the envelope in any way was he even making jokes i i didn't hear jokes it was just like a lot of like telethon which by the way I think if you were in the room if it was like an in-person event his like pushiness with the telethon and the qr code like that's funny and that's what you're hired for but the people in the arena are 180th of the people watching like you're not performing for the people in the arena you're performing for the people at home and it was just not translating at all and I don't know if we're all just collectively like we the bar has been raised in a significant way by nikki glazer like or or he was just particularly awful but he was really not entertaining in any way.

42:25Yes, but also something about the Golden Globes. Like I feel like the people in the room need to be roasted. Yeah. I don't feel that way about the Grammys. I don't think it needs to be a roast. Like these are like - No, me neither. So I didn't need that sort of energy. But you can still be funny. But like there are so many funny, like just - Things to say. Harmless jokes to be made. No, you can be funny and poke fun without roasting a group of people. I agree, that's not the vibe. Like Golden Globes, it's so hoity-toity. That's why they love to poke fun at like Hollywood Elite. Grammys is like a lot of real people from all different walks of life, all different genres.

42:57It doesn't need to be. I completely agree. Speaking of, I want to talk about Dochi, whom I was a little familiar with from TikTok, but I don't listen to a lot of rap music. But I know that she's like the up and coming, like big hot thing. So when it came time for her to win her award, I had a pretty good feeling that she was going to win. And I was so pleasantly surprised by her. I didn't know what to expect. So when she came up and brought her mom, which I thought was so sweet, and she was just talking about how she loves Tampa, her hometown, and how she gives all the credit to her sobriety. Like she was just not what I was expecting.

43:28I thought she was so lovely. And then her performance, I was like actually really sat for because I was like, oh, she's, you know, got a little something going on. And it was so different. I don't know what I was expecting, but like everyone in the school uniforms through the choreography, like I really loved it. I thought she was fabulous. I loved it too. I didn't know who she was until I read her name on Friday that she was going to be one of the performers. and I was very impressed. Very impressed. I thought it was a great performance. Yeah, and she just seems like she has a really good head on her shoulders.

43:56I liked her speech too. I liked a lot of the speeches actually. They were very professional, very thankful, stayed for the most part on message. Yeah, her message being like, you know, because she clearly got to where she is just by sheer talent, right? Being discovered in Tampa, which isn't like a hub of, but she was saying no, like it really is like such an artistic town. Record labels come down. she took that opportunity to like lift up her community and i found that really admirable i don't think a lot of people would do that so i just like like i just like her now yeah i agree she gave a good impression other um performances worth discussing shakira was kind of amazing like i like that song and she's such a good dancer and it's like kind of it's like her shtick her party trick that doesn't get old the belly dancing it is really crazy she She could roll her belly like that.

44:45No, yeah. And it's like, can you learn to do that? Or is that just something you're born with? I think it's a little bit of both. It's definitely a God-given skill. It's something you can hone. Maybe it's like singing. Like you definitely have the natural talent, but you can perfect it. Gaga and Bruno sang a cover. For what purpose? It wasn't a tribute. For California. Oh, right. California. Yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah. Got it. Okay. Anyone else? Definitely. Red carpet looks that I loved. Kelsey Ballerini. I thought she looked so pargy. She always, she never looks bad, but like I feel like she stepped it up a notch like with her hair, her glam, the jacket.

45:21I really loved it. Sabrina was one of my favorites. Taylor's look. It was very Taylor. Like not entirely perfect. Perfect. No, but she looked perfect. Her hair was like completely like and her makeup was much better than last year. Yes. But just like not like I just feel like people always just want to do like a little bit more with her. High fashion. I thought she looked nice. I thought it was cute. I thought it was cute. I think she knew it wasn't going to be like her. Some nights she goes and it's like she knows she's going to win every single award. Folklore was her year. Midnight's was her year.

45:51I think she knew like A, because other categories were so stacked and B, like TTPD was amazing. But I don't think it had the cultural impact that some of her previous albums had. So I think she really went for fun. And her dress was like that of a girl who was there for fun. I thought the red was a really cute nod to Travi and the Super Bowl. And the T on her thigh was so cute. I actually think that if she swapped this year's look and last year's look, it might have made a little more sense. Because this red look was very travy, but also Midnight's with the sparkles. And then this year she would be going in tribute.

46:20Now I know she's always forward thinking and showing us what's next. But this was the year of TTPD and this is when I would have wanted to see her in that outfit and it would have made sense to me. Yeah, I think in the future we will look at the year she wore the TTPD outfit and just assume it was the year she was nominated for TTPD. No, it was the year she announced TTPD. And then also, were you getting any subliminal messages from this outfit? She obviously wore the tee. It was mine on my upper thigh, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Which was actually cute. I like that as a bit of jewelry. I like that as a trend.

46:51Yeah, like a thigh chain. Thigh chain. I never heard of it, but I like it. But were you not getting any reputation vibes? No, red is not. Reputation is, I guess, like black and red. There was something like reading rep. Oh, okay. Got it. Love that. Reading rep. Like the blood. By the way. The stones on the chain, like blood, like very rep. Oh, like blood drops. Right? No. Maybe. I saw people saying it's rep, but everybody's just like looking for what they want to see. You know, you're creating the theory that you wish to see in the world. Yeah. There was also a lot of girlies there, like with beef.

47:28And I was very interested to see how like the Olivia Rodrigo of it all would play out. Now, let me say this. I thought Olivia Rodrigo looked the best she's ever looked. I completely agree. Something about, I don't know. She didn't do anything different. and the dress wasn't so like crazy, but she's very mature. And I remember I was saying she needs to chop her hair because it's giving like eighth grade long hair. She was able to circumvent that eighth grade look last night, even though she kept her long hair. I thought she looked like absolutely radiant. I loved the dress. I thought so too. She looked truly beautiful.

47:54And it was just like, it must've been hard for her to like walk in when it's like, you know, Taylor and Sabrina, they're at their table, Jack Antonoff, he, he, Gracie Abrams, Margaret Quayley. It's like their girl gang crew. And she has beef with Taylor and she has beef with Briner. yes but I do feel like then so on that side she's very close with Chapel Roan who I could see Chapel um not even though there was some oh Chapel Roan's dancer was Taylor Swift's dancer Cam Sanders I could see Chapel Roan and Taylor Swift having beef anyone else not having beef I could see Chapel Roan hating Taylor because Chapel Roan is like the communist pop star and Taylor Swift is like the capitalist pop star like literally one is Karl Marx and one is Winston Churchill like they just they wouldn't see eye to eye on anything yeah I could just see her being about that and then don't forget like billy eilish has run her mouth so i actually feel like olivia rodrigo might have some some allies in the audience by the way enemies of her enemies are her friends charlie charlie gabriette i saw enough to know gabriette was there a lot of people have run their mouths about taylor it's true it's kind of like a thing people do for fun so olivia rodrigo could find a port in that storm if she wanted to i'm just saying like maybe there were more people that she felt comfortable with and she brought her man so she was okay And I saw a video of, like, in the background, you could see Olivia going up to Sabrina and giving her a hug, which I found to be so crazy.

49:11Like, if I was Sabrina, I'd be like, get off me. A hundred percent. Like, in that situation, Sabrina will never forgive. And she shouldn't. Yeah. Because she wants to forgive you and she wants to forget you. Yeah. No, she was seriously burned. That's like Kim forgiving Taylor. Like, nobody asked. Taylor has to forgive you. Kim's like, I'm over it. Are we missing anything else to cover? There was one thing that I was just like we had to talk about. I feel like it had to do with tailored. But it's evaded me. So I think we can move on from the Grammys 2025 in the book. I will say I would give the first like 50 percent of the Grammys like a true 10 out of 10.

49:52I was enjoying every minute. Although I don't think they did a good job of like getting people's reactions in the crowd. Like we got very little like footage of just like random things. But the second half was truly dreadful. Like I think they need to be punished for abusing our time like that. There's no reason an award show ends past 11 and it was 1115 and the major three out of four of the major awards hadn't been given out yet. Like I think it was really disgraceful. A lot a longer time slot than usual. They're like, OK, guys always go over. It's like we'll give you four and a half hours. And it's a telethon.

50:17I think it's better when it's like you're feeling rushed towards the end. But like leave us wanting more. Yes. They did not do that. No. Our next story actually will be a little bit of Grammy's adjacent news because Beyonce Beyonce has announced her Cowboy Carter tour. So this was the news that Beyonce was going to announce, but then she postponed the announcement of the announcement. Fires. And the announcement is that she is going on a 2025 Cowboy Carter tour. So the announcement has been announced. Yes. She confirmed in an Instagram post on her Instagram after the Grammys that she'll be heading out on tour to LA, Chicago, London, New York, Paris, DC, Atlanta, Las Vegas, and Houston.

50:54So this seems like a small tour, no? Or am I missing something? No, it's definitely a small tour. I think that she just finished Renaissance. Like maybe she, and also I think comparatively, Cowboy Carter is not her biggest album. So it wouldn't garner the biggest tour. Yeah. But still she's Beyonce. Like she's going to what, 10 major cities. So maybe she's just tired. Like. Yeah. I don't know. Or maybe she, I feel like she might be doing it in like a, what kind of venues we don't know. Or she'll do more. Or she'll do more. Like you announce a little bit at a time. Right. I know I'm like, I'm here for it, but we're just so used to like a global, world tour and like this seems very intentional and I just want to say depending on the time I feel like I want to go yeah I'm sure I took a lot of shit about everything but I happen to really like Cowboy Carter the album yeah no like it's the most I've listened to a particular actually that's not true but because I've listened to even ttpd like you love that album it was your whole year you've not once said it should it was snubbed no I don't think it was snubbed I think that um I love her and it was the album I probably listened to the most but if I were to say which album really deserved it in terms of streams and overall cultural impact it would have been short and sweet yeah so I'm just saying like you can be like non-biased even though you're favorite like yes no I'm definitely I think I'm especially with this year in particular because like obviously I always want Taylor to win some years I think she like it's required that she wins and some years not so much and I didn't think this was a year and that's a knock I think TTPD is seriously the best album of all time I fucking love it yeah comparatively to other works and their impact i don't know yeah so anyways beyonce is going on tour cowboy carter that was the announcement that she was waiting to announce i really liked the artwork i'm into the bleached eyebrows uh well i will always be into bleached eyebrows because i feel seen did you see beyonce's underwire coming out of her i did i'm looking at this picture i i just assumed it was like part of the dress but no like she's seriously being stabbed by her own dress i mean we've all been there wearing our bras to fucking filth so much so that the material gives out and the underwire pops out and you like get a knife in your boob and you're like what is that oh it's an actual needle poking into your rest yeah it didn't come up when she was on stage right I'm seeing it like backstage I saw it when she was sitting no no when that that moment that went viral when she won country album of the year and she's like completely shocked literally the underwire in between her boobs both of them is popping out oh that's so interesting because right under it is like a little uh bow of sorts like a little embellishment so i was like maybe it's like the strings on top of the bow like i would just assume it was a style choice until you said that i think beyonce was very flustered like the way even because her reaction i think she got there maybe like a little late and she was just like flustered she was a little all over the place when she won country album she was like because trevor noah said she can arrive whenever she wants right her underwire was popping out like i think she was just like a little frazzled got it okay well ow the funniest This is Blue Ivy's face.

53:44She's like, okay, girl, get up. You've won a million Grammys before. Why are you being dramatic? I feel like she wasn't listening because she was just like sitting down. She was flustered too. She got there three seconds before they said her name. She almost missed it. She probably didn't think she was going to win. I don't even know if she knew it was her award. Yeah. She was so flustered. And Blue Ivy's like, girl, get up. You're on TV. But because she was the only country award nominated from album of the year, she therefore already won country album of the year now. Correct. Oh, what I was a really good point.

54:13The one other note I needed to make about the Grammys is that Architect by Kacey Musgraves won Country Song of the Year. And so for me, that was everything as it was the Country Song of the Year to me. I agree. And it's the Grammys 13 ,000 voting members respecting parginess. I was really surprised at Kacey Musgraves outfit because she's such like a red carpet sly. Like she always crushes it. And for her to show up in a tank top, I was really surprised. Oh, yeah. Like not my favorite either. And I don't care if the tank tops are off Lauren. Ugly's ugly. Yeah. Not my favorite. And she always kills it with the country twang.

54:50It's never overtly campy. It's always got a little country in it. She always kills it. Yeah, but the deeper well aesthetic is very stripped back. I'm shocked she wasn't wearing the thing in her hair, the bushka. Yeah, I found a deeper well. I liked what Lainey Wilson was wearing, just like that black tux suit with her hat. Lainey Wilson I just want to say is growing on me by the way I love her and I just to be clear I have always loved her that doesn't mean you can't be critical of like people you love winning awards that you don't think that they deserve yeah I mean when she was in she was amazing in Yellowstone her music is so good she performs she's never performed badly her tribute last night like she was amazing what's just surprising to me is like why does Lainey Wilson get tapped for that tribute like she's always just because she was she was nominated so they were obviously looking for like a woman in country so it was what her or casey musgraves right i'm just what surprises me about her is that like she gets all these huge opportunities for me like she seems like she's been around five minutes like kelsey ballerini's there like you could right she could do something so i'm just like why is it always her but taking that out of the equation like she sang she was so good last night and like i think she really showed up for country music and she is very authentically country and like yeah i'm gonna start my laney wilson like re-education of myself because Grease and Hang Tight Honey.

56:08Yeah. No, even four by four by you. I actually hate that song. I don't love the song, but every time they play a clip of it, like because she's always nominated for it, I'm like, that's Parchie. Okay. She's really talented. I listened to the two songs you told me to. Did you like them? They weren't enough to get me on the train, but I think I will listen to her album because after CMAs, I listened to Cody Johnson like I said I would. And I had heretofore been asleep on Cody Johnson. She's putting in the work. Cody Johnson is really good. Really good. Yeah. Okay, now to our next story. Actually, a little more Grammys adjacent news because this was the craziest thing that happened in the entire night.

56:48Khloe Kardashian blasts 2025 reporters for cutting babyface interviews short to talk to Chapel Roan. I am so glad we're talking about this because I meant to bring it up and we need to name shame and blame these two abhorrent, disrespectful, shameful, shameful journalists who work for the Associated Press. Yeah. So two women who work for the Associated Press were doing red carpet interviews. They were talking to Babyface, doing an interview with him. And one of them saw Chapel Roan passing by and literally like screams Chapel as Babyface is talking and brings her over. And he was like, oh, OK.

57:23And starts walking by. And they're like, yeah, sorry. And yeah. And he was like, oh, OK, bye. Chapel Roan. Yeah. I was so horrified when I saw that. it's such a bad look for literally everyone involved and I don't think chapel knew exactly that like you know I don't think actually this was no mark on chapel for me holy shit like I had such a visceral reaction I don't know why maybe it's because you know you always have like a soft spot for older people and by the way as somebody who's done red carpet like it's awkward you'll take an interview and then somebody like better passes by and you like kind of need to wrap up so it's an art wrapping up while someone's talking about without being disrespectful and then grabbing the person you really want to talk to and if you're not skilled at that you should not be hosting the grammys red carpet for associated press no and for the associated press i do think their listeners and viewers whichever ones they have like would rather hear from baby face like know where you're working they probably don't even know chapel rone and like you probably thought oh how could i miss this moment with chapel rone like best new artist blah blah blah and it's like in the grand scheme of things like whatever bullshit interview you had with chapel ron like was no big moment but you snubbing baby face was so chloe kardashian actually put to words i think how a lot of people were thinking the video went so viral and i love to see chloe standing up we know that they're like friendly i love to see her standing up for her friend like it made me so upset and i don't even know like baby face music i'm not like a fan i thought it was so disgusting well i think to do this to anyone for anyone would just be so rude so it doesn't even matter who it's for and who it's to like there's no person that's more interesting to talk to that you would snub one person then to come to find out that someone who's been in this industry for so many years has contributed so much to music it's not just a random person no and the girl at the end of the stream I don't know if you saw she like apologized it must have been going viral as their stream and then she like got wind of it and she gave like such a blanket shit apology like I can't even tell you how like how visceral visceral of a reaction I had to this and how much I thought her apology was a piece of shit and I and I literally hate her No, like everyone is so mad at this person.

59:29Like she was better off having a boring baby face interview that nobody talked about than this chap. Like, yeah. Anyways, Khloe Kardashian posted, this is so disrespectful how baby face was treated in this interview. Baby face has had such a significant impact on the music industry in so many ways. It is maddening to see a legend not get the respect and attention they deserve. He is a pioneer and deserves so much better than this. With decades of groundbreaking work as a songwriter, producer, and performer, he shaped the sound of multiple generations. I love you baby face and I'm a forever fan and thankful for all that you have blessed us with by the way what a class act you are p.s big or small old or new you don't treat people like this there's a way to handle this love Chloe and this was wrong in my opinion no I love Chloe she's been going off a lot recently she has she's been doing a lot of text-based stories I maybe it's the podcaster in her this is so a thing a podcaster does it's an amazing point I love that like another famous person is sort of using their own celebrity to stand up for and you're right he acted with such grace he didn't act you know uh miffed at all I was so upset watching this like I can't even explain it was so disgraceful this like it honestly I just I hate it I hope this girl gets fired honestly like I'm sorry I know that's terrible to say like it was horrible it's such a bad look for the Associated Press yeah it's just a bad judgment call you know I just felt like I watched it and something in me like like seriously broke I was so upset you and I know that sounds I know that sounds dramatic but it's right like no matter who it is like you treat an older person with respect and you're just like two young girls like trying to be cool with chapel road and it's like you're so disrespectful never mind that the person in front of you was like a living legend right it was just it bothered me so fucking much no and like this doesn't happen even though I'm sure things like this happen all the time like there are ways that this goes down Like, I mean, also they have like people who can hold the person to like, you know, E-News does this all day, every day.

1:01:22They don't have people disrespecting people. Even when someone more interesting walks by, like there is a way to do this. And this was just so wrong. Amateur. Wait. Also, can we talk about Wells Adams? We can. You can, because I didn't get to watch it. I was really surprised. I was like when Zuri Hall was, you know, doing her thing and she crushes it. and then I saw them like I don't know why this holiday uh award season E! News has decided to like give Kelty the shaft where she doesn't interview any celebrities even though like she's the most like highly trained entertainment journalist in Hollywood she gets they threw her at the top of the carpet at the last couple of award shows talking about fashion with Zanna Roberts Rossi like somebody at at E!

1:02:02is mad at her so I'm like oh who's the other person because they usually have the big stage Missouri and then like a satellite interviewer it's been Heather so I wonder who it is they cut to Wells from The Bachelor and color me shocked wearing the weirdest outfit I've ever seen in my life. I have to say, like, no shade. I happen to really like Wells. Such a nice guy. Happy for him to have gotten that opportunity. Poor choice on E's part. Like, this is a Grammys. Yeah. Why are they still doing this? I felt like they went back to entertainment journalism. Where's Justin Sylvester? I don't know. Always a good question.

1:02:40I mean, when you think of the talent they've let go, of course, Morgan Stewart. Like, Carissa, true professional. Where the hell was Justin Sylvester? So who was doing all the celebrity interviews? Zuri? Zuri and Wells. That's so interesting. No, Jackie was so weird. Maybe he's trying to, like, be the next Ryan Seacrest. He does host on the show on The Bachelor. Like, I'm just saying this is definitely a big next step, but maybe that's where he's trying to go. Notino Shade. Lovely man. Yeah. surprising extremely next up okay so that's really it for the Grammys now is that it for the Grammys that's brought to you by Vivrell perchance yes Vivrell is the first of its kind luxury accessories members only club providing members access to borrow designer bags jewelry watches and diamonds members can treat the Vivrell closet like their own and can borrow anything within their tier that Vivrell also probably the best thing about Vivrell has no return dates so I know a lot of you guys love designer bags Jackie and I do too.

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1:06:26Oh, what now? His website dropped. Oh, right, right. So Justin Baldoni's website that he had said was coming has dropped. It is called thelawsuitinfo.com. And in it is everything, every text. I'm surprised it's not ihateblakelively.com. Every text, email, exchange with the studio with Blake throughout the filming of this movie from the time he got the book rights from Colleen Hoover. Yeah. And the tide had already turned pretty completely against Blake, but this is really the nail in the coffin. No bueno. People are like cherry picking text messages from her that are really cringe and also just paint a different sort of picture than what we had gleaned from the New York Times.

1:07:08And he puts so much out there that I think like whatever your theory is, like some people think like Blake had a crush on him and he was unrequited. You can find like a text or an email on this website to substantiate whatever your theory is. Yes. And I have not read through everything yet, though I plan to because I'm so confounded and confused by this whole thing that like I can't really have a take on it until I can wrap my head up around as much information as it as is available however like I'm getting ready to eat my words you are I am I think that my initial assessment of Justin is still fair which is like that's not my kind of guy like cringe but I think that and it's funny because we were always on to Blake and Ryan until this and maybe because everyone was hating them like you just like made us it made us like them defend them but from what I'm seeing this these texts and everything portray it's like they did this man so dirty I'm not gonna say that until I read it all because right now I feel like I'm just being swayed by other people's takes so I want to come to my own conclusion but I'm just letting you guys know like I'm warm enough to say if I was wrong about this yeah the thing is is that I trust my gut here like I feel like you're right we've never been like huge Blake Lively or Ryan Reynolds fans and I think there's definitely like weirdness abound with them um Um, and I think that my gut on Justin Baldoni is and was 100 % right.

1:08:30And I think that a lot of the theories that we're seeing in the public opinion being swayed is one, like, cause this is like an issue that only women are discussing. Like women are in love with Justin Baldoni and like they're, they refuse to see him in any other light other than like male feminist King. And two, I'm sorry. I have no, and maybe you guys are going to be like, Claudia, you're just saying this because everybody disagrees with you. And maybe, but I have a hard time believing that like, this is somebody who has been proven to have astroturfed, right? To have paid for positive campaign.

1:08:57I have never seen, because I was just looking at Amanda from Not Skinny, But Not Fat story, because there have been a couple of podcasters who have been like very vocally anti-Justin, Nick and Natalie Vile, Not Skinny, But Not Fat, and everybody sort of like stopped talking about it. So people are like, well, they were wrong. They're stopped talking about it. If you guys knew the amount of hate I fucking got, literally like cancellation level for talking about Justin Baldoni, Amanda Hirsch, someone was like, are you gonna eat your words talking about, She was like, no, I'm not talking about it anymore because I get so much hate.

1:09:26Natalie from Vile Files DM me. She was like, are you getting so much hate? I'm like, yes. So you're telling me this is a person who has proven astroturfed? Like you're telling me he doesn't have like money out there right now getting. There's so many bots involved. I'm just saying. Like I know you guys are going to be a clutter. You're just saying that. Like I'm just saying. And so I'm not, I'm seriously not getting involved. Like you guys know how I feel. I don't think this is a good person. I don't. Okay. I think that's fair. And I'm not saying like, I feel like with this, I find myself like being, I am being swayed by easily swayed turfers and the boss and that's because I just don't really have a stake in it so I can't like stick up for one person because I don't know these people from Adam and I was never a fan of any of them in a strong way to begin with so that's why I'll read this and then decide but it's no and I'm sorry oh my god I saw this thing about the vile files and just to be clear like I have no skin in the game with the vile files but people are like well mint mobile okay is one of their sponsors.

1:10:20And Ryan Reynolds is an investor and that's like his company. Now I can tell you guys 1000%, like perfect example, Skims is one of our biggest sponsors and we talk about Kim all the time. Sometimes we agree with her, sometimes we don't, sometimes we say she was wrong. That does not affect your sponsors whatsoever. You can say, a sponsor would literally never tell you not to say something. No, that's really so crazy. That's when people like really get carried away. And they don't understand. Sometimes the industry is so nefarious and there's all these things that go on behind the scenes and you couldn't even fathom it and then right other times it's like you're assigning all this credit to something that isn't even a factor in someone's decision so I'm just saying these texts and the fact that he has all these texts and he's sharing everything from soup to nuts this man is trying to clear his name like and he will do anything and spend whatever because if he does not come back from this he has nothing the two of them like are fine will survive I actually maybe I'm biased but I think that like the concept of setting up a website for public consumption, like, and his obsession with getting people to, like, agree with him.

1:11:23Like, I actually think it's weird and creepy. And maybe I'm biased because I think he's weird and creepy. But I think this whole thing of, like, setting up a website, releasing your voicemails, your voice memos, like, you're trying a little too hard. Like, what are you hiding from? Sorry. Oh, I disagree. I feel like if you have been, like, so thoroughly slandered and, like, you have nothing else, like, this, what would he ever do again? he this and and he's say he was so wrong like just operate under the premise that he's so wronged like would you not do everything that you could to clear your name no I guess I would and it's not just a matter of like really hard it's not just a matter of like agree to disagree we'll go our separate ways and like we just all don't like each other and I'm gonna take the high road like there's no higher allegations because he has nowhere else to go he doesn't have an agent he doesn't have his podcast and then there are things to me that still don't add up like Like, why did everyone in the cast take Blake Lively's side?

1:12:15Why did Colleen Hoover take her side? When she finally released her lawsuit, why did everyone finally speak up for her? Like, that always is a little bit weird to me. The astroturfing, like, why did that campaign happen when nothing had happened yet? It seemed like he sort of, like, started this, but then it seems like they were trying to take his movie from him. But then I also have a hard time, like, caring so much about a movie. Sympathizing with a movie. Yeah. Yeah. So I hear you. I think it's fair to question, of course. And also, I think it's so easy for Justin Baldoni to be like big hero, big hero, when nobody's responded to him in a legal or public way.

1:12:59Well, I think for you, yes. Like you are waiting for Blake to respond and you're gonna like wait to call it until you see everything that's out there. What he's saying is like, this is what happened. Right, right. Now. He's saying everything's out there now. Yeah. No, I get it. I just, I seriously cannot be swayed by this man. Yeah. Well, so that's just, the jury is out for me now. Now I have to review the evidence. It's good to have a diverse echo. It's good not to be in an echo chamber. Diverse opinions here on the show. Yeah, but I also feel myself being like really wishy-washy about this because I just.

1:13:36Don't care. I'm so confused. Like, yeah, and I'm just confused. and then like all this stuff that happened on set that's what I guess I'll have to read about now but like then she sends these texts that's like who talks like that so anyways this is the text that's gone super viral yeah um she said I can send you my pass at the roof or just read with you when we get together next week let me know what you prefer if you knew me in person longer you'd have a sense of how flirty and yummy the ball busting would play it's my love language spicy and playfully bold never with teeth and him serving it back to her is just as it's blocked out You don't usually see both the man and the woman with spicy and humor.

1:14:12Anyway, I can act it out for you next week to make sure it comes through. Yeah, that's what I want you to act it out for me. Or I can send now. Let me know what you prefer. When Colleen Hoover was sitting in her house 10 years ago writing this rooftop scene, did she ever think that it would be the end of multiple people's careers? No, and like so hotly contested. Like, no, I don't think she did. And now Colleen Hoover is like being dragged. Yeah, so she deactivated all of her social media. There's like something going on with her son. Like she has a couple of sons and one of them like got himself in some, you know, bad situation about sexual harassment.

1:14:50And so I'm not clear on all the details, but it's like, you know, it's not looking good for Colleen. And like the Internet found, you know, everything. Separate from how she's behaved in this situation? Separate. Okay. Okay. But it's... That sounds like a different problem. Yes, but it's the same conversation, right? About like sexual harassment. Right, but in that conversation, she like downplayed the woman's experience. And then in this one, she's not. She's up playing. Yeah, I don't know. Seriously, I don't know. So like relevance, let me know. It's important. I haven't seen like the relevancy.

1:15:22You guys are just questioning her as an individual now. Okay. Correct, correct. After like reading her books and loving her. Right, right. Now we hate her. Right. No, cancel Colleen is over party. so that's where we're at i thought it was gonna get quieter from here on out no it's getting louder i would love to know what the conversations inside the lively reynolds household have been like i'm sure it's like well it's playful with the teeth oh let me go let me go to the basement get one of my dragons i don't know i feel like those two basically i i don't know do they know how I don't know that it's this bad maybe they're preparing their next thing like like Blake's Christmas day bomb which I also thought was I like it's crazy how two people can read a situation because like when she dropped that like right before Christmas I was like that's a weird time to drop this like evidence that's going to clear her name no one's really paying attention it's the holiday break that's a bad time to make news and then other people were like she did it to ruin his Christmas well to be clear she didn't actually drop anything she filed something with the drop with the government and then the New York Times ran it.

1:16:29She dropped the file in conjunction with the New York Times story on that week when she could have done. It's unclear like if that was her publishing it or the New York Times just ran it. But yes, I'm sure she did. It seemed like they had an inside track. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like why that week? To me that week seems like poor timing. Where you would bury something. Right, but then other people see it as she wanted to ruin Justin's Christmas. So that's just like how we all see it differently. Yeah, ruin Justin's Christmas. Christmas. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Some lighthearted news that we've all been waiting for.

1:17:01What? Christina Hawk has a new man. Who? Chris LaRocca. Oh, wait, I got to look. This is going to be in the flip-off season two. Chris LaHocca. Wait, what is she going by now? Christina Hawk? Is that her marital? Yeah, that's her original name. I think she's like stripped back. Oh, wow. Sexy pics of them. Yeah. You know what? She finds like these hot men. Some girls just never stay single for long. She's so, it's the seven husbands of Christina Hack. It is. And you know who else I was thinking that about recently? Who weirdly always has a man, even though like I wouldn't have put her in that box.

1:17:38Lady Gaga. Oh, yeah, because we saw him last night and he was not what I was expecting. Lady Gaga always has a man. But you would think she'd be like the independent type, not really in a relationship. And she's like low key, always in a committed relationship. So they were spotted at the LA airport together and they're jetting off in a romantic getaway to Paris. Yeah, they were spotted first together in October. His name is Michael Buckner. He has a professional headshot. So what does that mean? Wait, I'm looking at Christopher LaRocca. Oh, wait, am I on an old article? I mean, there's so many articles.

1:18:13I literally searched. No, wait, February 2nd, 2025. Christina Haack spotted kissing new boyfriend Chris LaRocca. wait wait are you on people magazine yeah february 2nd 2025 oh yeah yeah yeah wait who's this guy why did they have a side by side of her michael buckner was taken by michael buckner that's no no that's the photo credit for variety oh oh that's a photographer my bad that's who took the headshot if anybody needs a new headshot his name is chris laraca he's very handsome what does he do i just want to say Christina LaRocca. Oh, and then they have like the same first name also because he's Christopher.

1:18:54I'd rather see you LaRocca the stage at Arrowhead. She's Christina and he's Christopher. Oh, Chris, Chris. They're the Chris's. That's cute. So he's the CEO and president of Network Connect. She loves a businessman. I love that for her. Now, let me look up annual revenue for. The CEO of Network LaRocca. Yeah, I'm just like a busybody. Do you just have a real job? Okay. Oh, my God. Network Con X estimated revenue, they're based out of Chicago, is about$80 million a year. He's the CEO of a company that does$80 million a year. Strong. Yeah. Christine does not waste her time. She does not waste her time.

1:19:38Chris LaRocca. Chris LaRocca salary. Maybe it's on Glassdoor.

1:19:48so his net worth according to this website is at least nine thousand one hundred and twenty six dollars thank you that's good i figured it might be that's good there he's a private citizen so it's like really hard and also maybe he's like ceo of this company but maybe he like sold a company previously like it's hard to know okay by the way he has a bad debts you could have a bloomberg profile like that's how you know you're like a legit business person a part of the This headshot by Michael Buckner is also giving legit business person. A thousand percent. Thank you, Michael Buckner. Like that's seriously a ringing endorsement for you.

1:20:23I'm literally crying. I have tears coming out of my eyes. I kind of need a new headshot. Should I call that Michael Buckner? I think that you should. Do you think that Michael Buckner knew the day he took this man's photo? He's going to change his life. Do you think Michael Buckner's daughter is a toaster? I hope like a niece out there is like Uncle Mike. Maybe we'll get three headshots. Uncle Mike. is that you oh my god i'm cracking up well christina knows how to pick them like she really always turns out with someone handsome someone successful and now it's never like a long lasting thing but that's he seems kind of seems like where she's comfortable seems different so does michael maybe if it doesn't work out with christopher there's always michael there's always michael no he seems different because he's like not in the public eye doesn't seem like he's going to go on to date renee zell wigger yeah and go to her premiere of bridget jones did you see and darnstead are they still together him and renee he was at the premiere of bridget jones with her and i don't believe you that's so crazy they're still together yeah they're still together they were together last week on the red carpet of her new movie okay i need yeah i see i see he i think his daughters came along too so she's just like yeah he has a son and a daughter who both came so she she's really a part of the family yeah well maybe they should hire michael buckner to take a family photo do you think she'll be watching the flip off one thousand you know she It's not with him though.

1:21:42Like late at night when he's out doing his sexy things. He's on the flip off. He's one of the guest hosts. I know. That's why she's going to watch. Just like Taylor listens to Travis's podcast to get insight. He wants to know what happened between. Like Renee Zellweger is just a girl. She wants to know why Ant and Christina didn't work out. Renee Anstead. Renee Anstead. It's got a nice ring to it. It's a lot of vowels. Claudia Buckner. That's nice. A lot of consonants. Yeah. Hard. Well, thank you for putting a nice sort of bookend on the stories for today. Because that's something I needed to know.

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