Big Al-mageddon: Monday, April 20th, 2026

6:45Jackie Oshry:like catching up in a personal sense i don't really have a lot to share oh that felt like really quick no i know it was just kind of like a low-key weekend we were transitioning to one nap i know like we're really advanced i don't want to talk about it um no i really don't want want to talk about like stop asking me you guys and what else what else you know t-lum t-lum t-lum the life of me the life of a mother the life of a mother lots of mothering this weekend i would say from your girl yeah we took a trip to the suburbs and i feel as though like ben got the itch you know you gotta scratch it well you know ben has never lived anywhere outside of the city and it's so crazy because he's so house right like barbecue pudding green you know and so we went to visit our friends who had recently made the journey to scarsdale and we just had a fabulous time like a back deck bbq and when we were in the car like ben was just like talking about it and i was like oh he's ready he's ready oh my gosh are you ready for house i just feel like you're never gonna live in a house i can't i'm physically unable scarsdale right like I cannot live in a house because somebody could just walk right in.

8:02Jackie Oshry:It's insane. The fact that people live on the ground level, it's insane to me. Aren't you afraid all the time? Well, you could have a gate. Who cares? And a fence. People jump them. They don't care. Yeah. I've seen SVU. I've watched way too much SVU from such a young age to ever live in a house.

8:20Claudia Oshry:They all take place in the city in apartments. No, they go to the outer boroughs. They're in Yonkers a lot. No, like it's literally only, that shouldn't scare you off of a house. Other things could. But SVU should literally only scare you off of the city.

8:33Jackie Oshry:And like houses are sort of like living beings. They just breathe, you know, they make sounds, they fart, they burp. Like I could, like I would just have to sleep with one eye permanently motherfucking open.

8:45Claudia Oshry:One eye open when I'm sleeping.

8:49Jackie Oshry:One eye.

8:54Jackie Oshry:one eye open when i'm sleeping one eye remember like the toast like week or month where i could

9:01Claudia Oshry:not stop saying that yeah we i remember i think we were on a vacation we were vlogging something and i think we were doing shot or truth what's that game sip or drink or truth yeah whatever sip or see anything um and you were like drinking and that's all that's all you contributed to the vlog was one I open when I'm sleeping. Sounds like an amazing vlog. So glad to have been a part of it. Yeah, it was really cute. I think we were upstate. I think I was pregnant.

9:26Jackie Oshry:Oh, we're so cute. There's

9:28Claudia Oshry:so much cute stuff on the Patreon. It's all there still. Like if you join today, you could go watch that vlog from 2021.

9:34Jackie Oshry:It's sort of like a historical. Oh, I cannot believe I talked about my weekend without talking about what I actually did all weekend. I watched Rick Burns, New York. Now, obviously it's a 14 hour documentary but I understand now like why you made it your personality at the time because like yeah I'm watching Rick Burns New York what are you doing slob like I am so elevated I get in bed and I watch like a historical documentary and actually really enjoy it except for the fact that it's so boring and sleepy I cannot stop falling asleep I keep having to start over the next day I did finally get to the Central Park part and I fell asleep right when it started like I took a nap you'll watch it I saw like the first 10 minutes and then I fell asleep because it was during like Ruby's nap time so I started taking a nap and it was just like it's so it's so good it's so sleepy like the voice and the music and just like the content it's very soothing I feel like I'm learning a lot and I love learning you know yeah Ben likes it too yeah oh Ben loves it and he's telling everyone about it Ben is like so funny he like just can't keep things in home not that it's like a secret that we're watching it but like literally we every time we were playing Maja we saw his parents we went to Scarza telling everyone and all these people are texting me what was that documentary called so like we're truly spreading the word of rick burns it only took you three years when did i watch it

10:54Claudia Oshry:i think i watched it when i was pregnant with harry like why don't you just fucking listen to me when i say things the first time okay so i would have watched it then and hated it is that

11:01Jackie Oshry:what you want like i would have liked it then yeah i wasn't in the space for it i'm in the space for it now my god like i'm giving you credit i wasn't hearing a lot of credit but

11:11Claudia Oshry:it's not even about the credit of the rickburns it's like of course not what's it about it's about going forward you know in what's going forward that you can maybe like we could be simpatico

11:24Jackie Oshry:on them you know yeah i understand you have a chip on your shoulder because you like did a couple of things first and then i years later like finally watch him but i feel like years ago i could have enjoyed it together that's why because i just want to do things with you I acknowledge that like yeah you're on to things before me like congrats like that's great I'm

11:43Claudia Oshry:happy for you I don't need credit for being on to them before you I'm just hoping on the next one like we could sync up great like sorry that it already happens like I don't know what you want me to say so for the next one we'll sync up you're saying so like what like what because I feel like

11:56Jackie Oshry:we're synced now like I trust you now and I'm always listening to your recommendations like but sorry you watched Downton Abbey and you got a Kindle and you watched Rick Burns New York like 10 fucking years ago. Sorry, you're like an 80 year old living in the body of a 25 year old. I'm sorry that I'm just acting my age. 25. I'll add it to the list. How old were you when you watched Downton Abbey?

12:15Claudia Oshry:I was pregnant with Harry.

12:17Jackie Oshry:Oh, so clearly like you went through like a grandma phase when you were pregnant. Like, sorry, I wasn't also pregnant. It's not a phase.

12:24Claudia Oshry:It's a lifestyle. Also, did you start Strangers? Oh my God, no.

12:31Jackie Oshry:I tried to order it on Amazon. What do you mean? You don't have a Kindle? I do, but I'm like really not in my Kindle phase. First of all, I don't know where it is. It's like I can't buy another one. You're not in a Kindle phase because you don't have one. And the one that I do have, like I cannot find the charger for it. And you guys know me. I have like a saga. I have lost every Kindle I've ever owned.

12:48Claudia Oshry:You charge it on your Kindle?

12:49Jackie Oshry:I just cannot buy another Kindle. So I ordered it on Amazon and it must be like going in for a second printing because it was prime. But it's going to take like four days.

12:58Claudia Oshry:Oh. I think it'll be here tomorrow. I can't believe you don't have a Kindle right now. That's really crazy. Like if I went looking for it, I might find it. I feel like you just like fart Kindles. Like you say Kindle and one falls into your lap. Like everyone's always sending them to you.

13:13Jackie Oshry:The Amazon team is extremely generous with their gifting. So when I say I've lost every Kindle I've ever owned, just know I've actually never bought one, which is a slay on my part. Maybe if you bought one, you would. I would know what it's like to like know the value of a Kindle.

13:24Claudia Oshry:Yeah, like sometimes when something comes so easy, it's easy come, easy go. But when you buy one, you know how you feel when you buy something?

13:29Jackie Oshry:it's like yeah yeah but i'm also like i like these days like reading a book getting in bed because you guys do it together like the lights are on no no but just like something like turning a page it's so natural you know quaint yeah and then of course if i ever leave the house with my book how will people know that i'm like reading something like the book of the moment which is

13:53Claudia Oshry:strangers by bell burden yeah it really is everybody's talking about it don't you find and they're adapting it who's playing Gwyneth Paltrow is playing her I believe yeah okay I love

14:09Jackie Oshry:that I've seen pictures and videos of Miss Burden but I don't know what the subject of the book is but between her I know it's about a divorce and you know Gwyneth obviously has experience in the conscious uncoupling and it's not like a wealthy blonde woman I think there's a story about a wealthy blonde woman I only wanted to be played by Gwyneth Paltrow yeah okay I look forward to

14:28Claudia Oshry:disgusting the movie once you've read the book because i have some some thoughts but i don't

14:34Jackie Oshry:want to spoil anything the internet was ablaze this weekend i do feel like we can dive in between the yankee game and just like so much going on beaver chill apart too let's do it without further

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20:39Claudia Oshry:people magazine and who do i see my sister me claudia ashra you were one of the topic came out an hour ago you're talking about like your good stuff you know you're talking about oh like your new partnership and your relief oh yeah oh i forgot i sort of once thank you i sort of buried the lead

20:58Jackie Oshry:I'm one. Yeah. Some like big major news coming out today. I totally forgot. You're the news. Yeah. You know, I get a lot of requests from high end brands, right? You know, fashion, beauty. And a lot of people want to work with me. And I'm very choosy, of course. Right. Of course. And so, yes, that people magazine article today is the announcement. I am very proud to be one of the new faces of Dolk Lex. It just feels right. You know what I mean? It just feels right. Feels right. like I didn't even need product do you know what I mean they were like can we send you products I

21:30Claudia Oshry:was like no I'm all set thanks thanks so much well what a fun treat to see you in the news as I scrolled about my day our first story Alex Earl seemingly sends pointed message to Alice Cooper with a song choice in her new pole dancing video so as we wait for the Earl response we are getting a video of her pole dancing along to the track you don't own me which for those who don't know goes don't you don't tell me what to do don't tell me what to say very pointed I would say and not just to Cooper's self but to everyone who's like tick tock on the clock you have to say your piece

22:10Jackie Oshry:oh I thought it was actually like exclusively directed at Alex Cooper because she didn't and I think now in hindsight like when her immediate response was like okay I'm on it was more sarcastic being like I'm not listening to you bitch like what you're gonna tell me what to do you're not my boss anymore yeah so I don't I didn't feel like she was talking to me maybe she

22:28Claudia Oshry:no I felt like she was like number one Alex Cooper but also like everyone else don't tell me what to do don't tell me what to say she's going to do it on her own time I think that we can sort of say

22:38Jackie Oshry:now like oh response TikTok is not coming no no and there were you know theories that because her original video of her waking up with Sally and her sister was filmed horizontally that it was being used for their reality show and this was just like a sneak peek and this and yes I I agree now and in that video she's doing like a stripper pole class dancing and you see there's a camera crew they keep like popping in and out of frame on the left side so yeah she pretty much confirmed that this whole thing will be addressed in her reality show and like I do respect the hustle and you know it's like us with patreon like I get it yeah but patreon we can do it immediately is instant and this is actually just simply not gonna work for me yeah I want to just also say like this is a crazy response like the pole dancing the pole dancing like about her like

23:31Claudia Oshry:and because I do feel like I'm really a different generation than her the way that she's like moving in this saga is so unexpected to me yeah even posting the video of herself watching the thing and then just like laughing and nothing else I'm like wait that's that's just like not what I would expect so again this pole dancing video I'm like these are crazy ways to handle it but she's like seriously such a pro and so good at what she does that I have no doubt in her I'm just like wow we're we're from a different time and also I don't know if this is a part of it

24:04Jackie Oshry:because so much of what she's been posting doesn't seem strategic at all but like you know never interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake like she Alex Cooper posted this video I think it completely backfired had such a negative i'm now seeing i met alex earl on a plane once and she was night at imax alex cooper and she bullied me you know like going back combing through every video she's ever posted it's had a very negative and i think backfired effect on alex cooper so like why would alex earl interrupt that like you started this i'm all good everybody loves me and i haven't even said anything yet like i'm sad it's true that's a really good point i i mean i wouldn't respond like because you know the internet is so remember drama again and it was like james's video came out oh yeah justice for james and the tati's videos came out oh james is disgusting he's a pedophile like the internet is so fickle that you know what like yeah i would be sat too even though like personally i'm disappointed yeah in terms of like she's trying to win this even though she does need to tell her friend brianna chicken fry to shut the fuck up because i think that's kind of been the only like bad look for team alex earl is brianna chicken fry like inserted herself right in the middle and hyped up alex earl more being like well i hate you because what you did to my friend and I cannot wait for my friend to tell everyone and her friend doesn't say anything and then Brianna Chickenfighter keeps teasing this podcast episode where she spills like all this tea and I guess it came out yesterday and I don't think it moved nobody moved I don't think it made a real impact and she's just like going on and on about her and Grace again and it's like so that's like the only thing that's sort of like not rocking on team licks yeah and because I think of all of this Alex Cooper has looked to the best and I think like provided the most proof and like I feel like she's been sort of vindicated, justified in the Alex.

25:44Jackie Oshry:I mean, in the Brianna chicken fry thing.

25:46Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Yeah, I would agree. So this is where we are at now. I guess we'll wait for the show. Hopefully they can do it lickety split. And I guess it does incentivize Netflix to put her on the air sooner. You know, sometimes you have to like wait for your airtime. Like look at Love Thy Nader. But like if you're dangling this in front of Netflix, like this is literally one of the top three stories of pop culture this year so far. It's just been a really competitive year so far. It has. they're gonna feel incentivized to get it up and that's that's a pretty good move on her part but I agree with what you said it's just like not strategic the way she's moving and that's just like so refreshing to me like I and just so unexpected I guess it's very Gen Z I don't know

26:25Jackie Oshry:this these are not my people but yeah and like in the days of yore like the drama I've always participated in it's been like extremely well-timed extremely strategic crisis PR like I guess she doesn't give a fuck like or she or at least that's what she wants to put out that she

26:41Claudia Oshry:doesn't care unbothered also for how history will remember this saga I would like to propose like another title um we don't have a good one okay what about Al-Mageddon just think about it so I

26:56Jackie Oshry:love it I like I don't know if we can also use Armageddon again you know like but I love it okay

27:02Claudia Oshry:just you know I feel like I've thrown out a lot of options like like Licks first Lex you've done your part Licks first Lex is just a little chewy a little chewy chewy like it's got a lot of syllables like like you know what I mean Almageddon sort of rolls off the tongue speaking of we also need to talk about the most recent tea by the sea that Dave put out about what he thinks to Moxidil to Moximo and also what he has heard because I feel like he's been waiting for both sides and Now he's just like wants to pontificate on the situation. And so he's sharing what he's heard, which was a new tidbit that Alex Earl wanted to leave unwell, as we all know.

27:44Claudia Oshry:And Alex Cooper really wouldn't let her and instead more or less blackmailed her into staying.

27:52Jackie Oshry:Yeah, like with a recording or something.

27:54Claudia Oshry:And like threatening to cancel her.

27:56Jackie Oshry:Well, that backfired.

27:58Claudia Oshry:yeah and if that's true i have a zero tolerance policy of course i have a zero tolerance policy

28:07Jackie Oshry:for blackmail and cancellation just so you know okay i don't give grace there but i will

28:16Claudia Oshry:and i feel like you're referencing like that where that's happened before who no no i just think that's an awful thing to do of course like that's different like because all the

28:25Jackie Oshry:acts like that who does she think she's james gandolfini like that's insane no but also like

28:29Claudia Oshry:i could understand you know alex are wants to leave the network but you signed a contract sorry you don't like it sorry like so i'm just not automatically team earl for wanting to leave like i understand this is a business you know blah blah blah of course um so i could have a little bit of tolerance for running a business but i don't have tolerance for blackmail and extortion

28:51Jackie Oshry:that's where i'm i'm glad to hear that you and i are aligned like philosophically on that i think

28:55Claudia Oshry:a lot of people are as well i'm just saying like that if anyone wanted to know where i stand that's like liz would always post that meme from i think i hate crime i'm violently against it i'm against crime slay yeah so yes i'm against blackmail extortion and threatening cancellation agreed No good. That has no place in our community.

29:24Claudia Oshry:I'm crying. So I guess this sort of like marks the end. For now. We'll put a pin in it. And then what do you. I don't want to put a pin in it. I was having so much fun. I think little things will like. It could be like fourth and fifth stories. Like maybe throughout the week. You know. Chicken Fry keeps yapping. And Dave keeps yapping. Yeah. And DeMoximo. Yeah. So we'll see. Let's just set it down for it's gotten, you know, I think we do need to cool off. It got a little crazy. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Something that's getting crazier is summer house drama. Two things, two things.

30:06Claudia Oshry:First, Amanda and Wes Wilson were spotted enjoying a baseball game. They were at the Yankees game. They were put on the Jumbotron and they kissed.

30:18Jackie Oshry:Okay, they were put on the Jumbotron, which is so crazy. Because, like, were they put on the Jumbotron? When you go to a sporting event, there are two types of people on the Jumbotron. They do, like, a celebrity row, you know, like famous people at the game. And then they also just put, like, randos. And I have a hard time believing they just, like, happen to have chosen these two randoms. No, the person doing the camera knew who they were. Yeah, okay. Of course. And then the lip readers say that when they were on the Jumbotron, Amanda said, look like you like me.

30:43Claudia Oshry:Act like you like me. And I just want to say, I usually don't go for stuff like this. but someone slowed it down and they played it over and over and over again. And by the end, you can see, act like you like me. And then he gives her a peck and then he looks so miserable and he's regretting every choice that he made over the last two months. Obviously. But also doesn't want to look that way and appear that way and I think does care about Amanda and is not going to just leave her. But I'm just telling you, this guy is not having a good time.

31:11Jackie Oshry:Oh my God, he is one foot out the door, but I think they both have made a commitment to one another because this thing is so bad. if they don't at least date for a couple of months like if it was just a one-time thing it's so bad for her it's bad for both of them i think he knows that like the situation will get worse if he ends up doing to amanda what he does to every girl so he has to like act like he's not a piece of shit for a couple of months but i think he can't stand her i don't i just

31:33Claudia Oshry:want him to know like i don't need him to now prove like that he's not that guy like with amanda like no but like we always say like well if they get married like this wasn't so bad because he's allowed to stay being him they're not getting married Claudia they can't even make it a week

31:47Jackie Oshry:of course not but the situation lessens like the crime lessens the longer they are together you

31:53Claudia Oshry:know yeah but if they it wasn't just this one night stand it would have been better as a one night stand because that's a mistake that can be forgiven the situation that they're in right this moment is the absolute worst one of like we are going to throw away everything we don't care about you your feelings our fans etc to explore a feeling that's like not even really strong enough

32:14Jackie Oshry:because we're not going to make it yes I also don't know I think they're both like relatively committed to just emerging 100 not like a slow re-entry they just want to be out and about like I think they think it'll like quicken up the process of whatever's going to happen but I don't know why the hell she went to that game she was so fabissina the whole time every picture every video she has her feet up on the chair in front of her which is just disrespectful you know and she just looks so miz and then she's on the dramatron like a child sits like that she looked

32:46Claudia Oshry:like a like a petulant toddler like i was like mad that they had to go to this event so don't

32:52Jackie Oshry:yeah not a good look not a good showing and i think this week is a summer house reunion taping so like i personally cannot wait i need them to just air it completely unedited like i don't want gonna miss a minute i'll watch i know they take like 12 hours okay i'll watch 12 hours yeah like

33:07Claudia Oshry:streaming on peacock the way i feel about amanda now is like how i felt about lucy and tell me lies like yes that's the perfect comparison like i can't feel bad for you i think like i guess amanda

33:18Jackie Oshry:could like no she really can't a different country or something but that's a bummer yeah it's hard to champion people who don't champion themselves yeah and as the great gracie lou freebush once said people care about people that care about themselves but it seems like she only cared about herself in this situation and that and that didn't work no i was just making like a movie reference but i appreciate you using it as a moment to not agree with my call no i was just

33:45Claudia Oshry:using it as a moment i appreciate it more than you know i was really internalizing what you said so next time i should just skim over what you say when like when it's a movie reference yeah like i was just referencing a great quote so i'm not disagreeing with you i'm actually disagreeing with Gracie Lou Freebush and the writers.

33:59Jackie Oshry:Do you not agree with people care about people who care about themselves?

34:03Claudia Oshry:To a degree, but I would say this is the exact...

34:05Jackie Oshry:She was saying it on a more physical level, being a girl, put a clip in your hair. People care about people who care about themselves.

34:10Claudia Oshry:That I agree with.

34:11Jackie Oshry:Yeah.

34:12Claudia Oshry:But I think Amanda care about man of self a little too much here. Agreed, agreed. She should have cared about other self.

34:18Jackie Oshry:Yeah. Sierra's glamour article was extremely well received. She was talking about that kind of now famous photo of her in the white dress sitting on the street. But she's not

34:27Claudia Oshry:filming but she's not filming you said it like that i did honestly it is my new vocals tim oh my

34:34Jackie Oshry:god and what's her name out with marciano is she okay she's lost me did you see they went to a concert together like holding in she was on her shoulders up until now i just was able to tell

34:42Claudia Oshry:myself that she's like doing this for the show and like to move the story going along but jackie but they're not filming but they're filming and like going to a lani concert like that's that's a lot and i think they're like actually seeing each other which is really really crazy

34:57Jackie Oshry:it's crazy because it is a check in jordan's column which is insane because nobody hates it more than me yeah but maybe your emotional affair was more serious than everybody made it out to be

35:09Claudia Oshry:like no i just can't understand the idea of like this person marciano like almost ruined your life at the time like spreading this lie that was a clear lie like how you could ever like want love it like be attracted to someone like that ever again i don't understand that yeah at your big

35:25Jackie Oshry:age like making such a bad decisions i genuinely like i cannot support you i don't understand how

35:31Claudia Oshry:you can like love someone like or even engage with someone who tried to take you down i know

35:36Jackie Oshry:jesse listens to the show like jesse listen we can help you okay but i am hopeful that she that there's more than we don't know because she was really so fantastic when i met her like i'm gonna

35:46Claudia Oshry:trust my i'm trusting my fave here i know and like the girl that you met like wouldn't make a decision like that i'm trusting my fave i'm going to okay okay that's really beautiful jesse if you need

35:55Jackie Oshry:help reach out okay yeah every time i make like a call to action to jesse she responds like the last time i did it i was like jesse i know it's hard and you have young kids but like please leave your husband and she dm me like two days before they announced she was like we're getting a divorce okay so like jesse tell me this marciana thing is fake like tell me something make it make sense just make it make sense whatever it is make it make sense yes um also summer house related is

36:21Claudia Oshry:that kyle cook was spotted king and kissing megan king edmunds in the streets okay okay kyle not megan king edmunds started spotted after uh jackie just megan king she dropped the edmunds for me like i she will always be mke yes yes jackie when i saw this first of all this is such

36:42Jackie Oshry:an amazing crazy psychotic story for two reasons one like the most unlikely pairing even though we all forget because he acts like a 17 year old kyle cook is well into his 40s he's 43 and she's 41 oh my god that's insane that he's older than her okay so like yes on its base

37:03Jackie Oshry:it makes sense right a 43 year old and a 41 year old who work on the same company it's like it's giving um astronomer like it's just whatever but this is so crazy for two reasons like one I think this is the craziest most unlikely pairing of people on the planet like I just can't get over it and two the video itself is one of the most disturbing kisses I've ever seen in my life like it's insane and if a moment like it's so personal and intimate not in like a sexy way in an embarrassing way like I could never really be famous I couldn't like having moments like this recorded and shout out to like the random stranger who knew who these people were and like stood on

37:42Claudia Oshry:the street corner and filmed it they were leaving a page six party so it might have been like another party goer I don't think it's like so random you know like they weren't just like having a quiet night out and it was like do you think this is their first kiss I mean it looked like their first

37:59Jackie Oshry:kiss ever with any other human being like the kiss was so platonic that gives like not your first

38:06Claudia Oshry:kiss with this person then because like you do your big one for your first kiss like you kiss

38:10Jackie Oshry:in random ways when your later kisses he had both and he's shorter than her he had both hands on her shoulders in a sort of like bro-y like football kind of way and then the second it was over she just like grabbed her phone it was so weird like seriously i watched it a hundred times like i couldn't believe it so do you ship no no no um no i don't i don't not ship like i don't hate megan king edmunds like continues to be one of the craziest women on bravo like yeah her impact

38:46Claudia Oshry:was like she her time was so short but her impact was so long lasting brooks brooks that's so crazy that was the craziest thing that ever happened on bravo that is yeah we forget it because like scandival and now scamanda but like yeah bro a psychic signal to them that brooks was faking his cancer do you know how fucking crazy that is and she and anyone else who brought it up it was

39:10Jackie Oshry:kind of like munchausen's with yolanda like obviously this woman had munchausen like she was completely fine um and yeah like shout out in hindsight she was the villain but lisa rena was so real for that like there was something deeply wrong with yolanda hadid mentally physically she was fine and she kind of became the villain for that like for saying the unpopular thing but i guess you can't prove munchausen's you can prove if somebody is faking cancer and it was extremely brave of her to actually say it out loud like yeah we all just could have like tossed aside what the psychic said but she called that facility newport imaging that's so crazy that was so crazy faking cancer is like a thing is it yeah it's like a trope like people do it a lot there's a girl on tiktok who um i didn't know the backstory her content comes up for me all the time because she makes like um big sunday roast dinner she's british and then she had twins and like i don't know why she's just like always on my for you page jack-o-pot-a-a like and then i didn't know her backstory was that like she had to go fund me and like literally faked having cancer yeah like it's just a thing people do it's so crazy i'm unfamiliar oh yeah no the crazies are are holding it down are you ready for our next story

40:23Claudia Oshry:three number three yeah and it's a little more reality tv news i would say these were the first three stories are the top three stories of the year number three right now being taylor frankie paul um speaking out in the most direct way that she has since all of uh the bachelor drama went down and now that her cuss her domestic violence um thing was thrown out she is speaking out so she posted three pictures of herself looking very thin and unwell. And she said, here come the ugly parts of what healing actually looks like. If you know me, you know, I'll admit my parts, flaws and faults. I'm well aware that's a part of it.

41:04Claudia Oshry:We'll get there. This public atrocity that I not only lived through once, but twice now on an even bigger scale was ultimately the cost of my freedom. I wouldn't wish this upon my worst enemy or even to the ones who publicized it. I cried on my knees in pain while also saying thank you. We have a road ahead, but regardless I'm forever freed from a certain living hell I couldn't find my way out of. Metaphorically someone witnessed me bleeding out and poured salt all over me. Somehow I'm still here as we can see barely because I believe God helped me through and sent help plus an army which makes me cry because thank you to all of you that supported even without full context.

41:37Claudia Oshry:God undoubtedly had a hand in this because after waiting seven weeks on the seventh day exactly I received the call all charges dropped. Those are his numbers symbolic for his plans which I'm nervous to see what's in store steps moving forward are the very basics we're working on eating movement rest and retraining the nervous system i'll be sharing the process because if my worst is shared better bet i'll share the rebuilding too that's great

42:03i just want to say one thing i saw this and i saw also a lot of the pictures that were released

42:10Jackie Oshry:um i don't know where they came from if she released it or like it's public

42:13Claudia Oshry:yeah there was a picture it's like scrapes and scraps scrapes and bruises on both of them yeah

42:18Jackie Oshry:um so while i do think the public doesn't 100 understand and i can see i do agree like she was in a personal hell like and she was being tortured and i understand what she's saying like the second this all came out obviously she was like terrified but also relieved right and i appreciate her like you know sharing this but i do think the narrative like of her being completely blameless is not like I'm not 100 % buying that.

42:47Claudia Oshry:Oh, I don't think there's a narrative that she's blameless.

42:49Jackie Oshry:Yeah, no. And it's like and look and her abuser got her again and he got her season canceled. And it's like he's the real abuser. And it's like I think that that they both are.

42:57Claudia Oshry:I think that they both are. I don't think that she's blameless whatsoever, but I think that she did this really terrible thing because I mean the stuff about with her and Dakota is like one thing, but the chair throwing and whatnot. And it all happened like very publicly. but I guess like she understood that we didn't understand it. And I think in all the seasons, like she felt like such a bad person. And like, I felt like even though she was asking for forgiveness, essentially for the last few years, she couldn't get it because nobody knew what they were forgiving. And I feel like now that everything is out there and that like, this really separates for her from Dakota completely.

43:32Claudia Oshry:So she's able to like move on from him. Like everyone can start the process of like knowing who she is and what she did. And if there is a way to come back from that, to start that now. But like when you can't even start that, she's like been in this purgatory. And so I don't find her to be blameless whatsoever. But at what point can forgiveness begin?

43:53Jackie Oshry:Right, right. And I guess that's the road she's taking, just like religion and healing, which I respect and support.

44:01Claudia Oshry:Yeah, yeah. So it was interesting to hear, though, that that's how she saw it. is like the worst thing that ever happened like not the worst thing ever happened but like a horrible thing to go through it twice now and like have your whole life completely ruined but it was like very freeing for her because it's over it's over now yeah and probably getting all these things like bachelorette like always she always felt unworthy right like the higher you climb the farther you fall right and so there was really like it's i think she'd rather not

44:31Jackie Oshry:have those things and not feel that way right and feel like a fraud and now just like be her

44:37Claudia Oshry:and move forward.

44:39Jackie Oshry:I mean, I can see a world in which she continues filming.

44:43Claudia Oshry:I could too. I feel like they're not filming right now. I do imagine that the executives are taking the temperature of what people would watch again, you know? Right, and how all this is like being received. They seem to really love her because even when she did this the first time and they pick back up and they always gave her special treatment, they've always, like, I imagine that they want her to film.

45:06Jackie Oshry:Yeah.

45:07Claudia Oshry:and the show has not picked up cameras since this whole saga yeah I don't know I don't know what the path forward would be I wonder if she even wants to or she's like I know like it's just being an influencer like enough like you can make money you can make a living and like made so much money over the past few years and lives very modestly modestly you know even her clothes she's borrowing dresses from Jessie she was living in the same house but she moved to just a different house of the same size just to like clear herself with the memories I wouldn't be surprised if she has a lot of money in the bank I agree and doesn't need to be a celebrity like this anymore and she she'll always be an influencer because she always is just sharing that's who she is that's why her fans like love her so much she shares like all the ugliest parts of her life um so she'll always have like an audience and can work in that sense not at the level that she was but I think she has a lot of money yeah I agree she definitely lives like a low low budget lifestyle crocs and men's clothing.

46:05Claudia Oshry:Sweatpants, yeah. I don't know where she would have been spending her money over the last few years.

46:10Jackie Oshry:I just think that if she were to be asked to film again, I feel like it does also give a pass to Dakota, that he can also film stuff again. Even though I guess he is, he's on that turn unwell.

46:19Claudia Oshry:It's the secret lives of Mormon wives.

46:22Jackie Oshry:I mean, I feel like nobody gets that, actually. That it's the secret lives of Mormon wives, not deadbeat husbands.

46:30Claudia Oshry:And I think that one, she could if they wanted her to film again she could say i will not film with him and they don't have to put him on just because she's on because it is the wives and they're not together you know so you sort of lose your spot that's simple to me no and that's what's annoying and hulu did edit him out of vanderpump villa so they're obviously not with him good i like good i hate him so much

46:55Jackie Oshry:I don't hate her. Yeah. I hate him.

47:00Claudia Oshry:Yeah. It's just hard because like we still don't have like, you know, it's all inferencing. And I feel like I know.

47:08Jackie Oshry:No, there are things that I know. I think she's made a lot of mistakes, like really bad judgment, especially when it comes to her parenting. But I don't think she's a bad person. Yeah. I think Dakota Mortensen is a bad person. Evil walks among us. Yeah. That's the difference. Yeah. So I can forgive a person who makes mistakes Yes I can't forgive an evil person

47:28Claudia Oshry:I think there's no reason why he has to film if she is Like period And Hulu should know that Yeah well I feel the same way about Jordan too Like once you're out you're out Please I don't want to keep seeing these guys Yeah

47:39Jackie Oshry:Unfortunately though I think we will

47:40Claudia Oshry:I do think they realize that they sort of ruined the last season with the men And they would pull back from that regardless Good yes Lest we not forget that the men ruined this show They would be fools to not have realized that Agreed

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52:26Claudia Oshry:Our next story, Coachella Weekend 2. lots of cameos we had madonna on stage with sabrina we had olivia on stage with addisoner oh that was weird and billy eilish and big sean on stage with justin bieber okay i want to say

52:43Jackie Oshry:also kylie was there you know she's like justin bieber's number one fan like it hurts my feelings that she doesn't go to sabrina and or if she does she like doesn't post about it like does she not

52:50Claudia Oshry:like sabrina i feel like kylie's so sabrina i do too and she did a tiktok to house tour so she's not like anti right I think maybe it's like too early and she's not gonna be there like all night

53:02Jackie Oshry:long you know I feel like Sabrina's the night before Sabrina's the last one the night before right oh I don't know I love Sabrina loved that Madonna moment you know I always remember one of my favorite movies to reference what am I about to say Gaga five foot two one of the best celebrity documentaries out there like ever and she's like really drunk talking to mark ronson smoking a cigarette outside and she's talking about they won't they won't say what moment she's referencing but the internet people were quickly you know able to gather that she's talking about like madonna i guess that's like lady gaga's idol madonna and like i guess i could see it she fancies herself like a modern madonna and madonna like hates lady gaga especially when lady gaga like first came on the scene madonna like was making really nasty public statements about her so it's like clear like madonna and you can see based on like how she looks she's not like down to be sunsetted right like there is no new Madonna because Madonna's still here she tours you know and so to see her sort of pass the baton to a younger performer that's like not the Madonna way you know she doesn't play like that so I was happy to see that for Sabrina but like I part of me was

54:05Claudia Oshry:thinking about Lady Gaga oh interesting yeah it's like if I thought about who the next Madonna is I wouldn't have thought about Sabrina but I do think that like what they did together was sort of perfect especially like a prayer the imagery is very Breiner and very Madonna it's very Breiner

54:19Jackie Oshry:and the musical transition was fabulous. Wanna try some Bricky Prince? Have you ever tried this one? And then it was Madonna. I like that. The beginning of it. Just like Prince. I'll take you there. It was, yes, I agree. Like the aesthetics, like sex, aligned. And I had no problem with it. Like I just thought it was interesting and I went to what Lady Gaga thought about it. Yeah. Because when Lady Gaga was where Sabrina was at, not only did Madonna not champion her, she actually put her down. I understand.

54:48Claudia Oshry:and I feel like Lady Gaga has worked through that you know I feel like Lady Gaga now like fucking hates Madonna and like she like really does yeah probably great but Madonna wasn't ready then great and that was like 15 years ago no five foot two oh oh oh yeah yeah yeah when Lady Gaga was coming up like we were in high school yeah I guess like just dance yeah so I think like now Madonna feels more ready to pass the baton and she's passing it to Briner or we're just reading too much into it it was just a cameo and like she just sang and like who would turn down an opportunity to be at coachella and like i don't know that it's a passing of the baton or so it's

55:23Jackie Oshry:just a collaboration but i know she doesn't see maybe she doesn't see it but it is a passing of

55:28Claudia Oshry:the baton it is uh speaking of sabrina olivia rodrigo joined addison ray love what you just did there addison ray uh for headphones on the live debut of olivia's new single dropped it so olivia sort of had a big weekend because she put out a new single and music video she joined Addison on stage when it was very bright out and when Sabrina performed at night yeah it was really

55:50Jackie Oshry:bright I like one thing about me that's so crazy is like I've been an Addison Rae fan since day one and I think she's like one of the weirdest worst performers like I don't like her music it's not made for me like I can't believe like that my girl who like I loved her and she's all that like like this is what she does like her music I get that it's like performance art and sure I don't

56:13Claudia Oshry:get it like assuming i don't get it i i honestly don't watch it because i find it to be like upsetting for like my belief in her like i don't want to maybe we're just old satchi loves it i know i don't want to know what's going on like i i've recognized that it's not for me the outfits are not for me the songs like everything they're not iconic to me like i can't believe people even

56:34Jackie Oshry:know the words to some of them like it's not music not to sound like an actual grandma but It's literally just noise.

56:42Claudia Oshry:And then she's like wearing this like showgirl outfit with like a purple American apparel sweater. Like I'll never understand. I'll never understand. And then Olivia Rodrigo. I just don't think about it because it's incongruous for me.

56:54Jackie Oshry:With what we've like known Addison to be like and everybody slept on. I think her original attempt at being a pop star. Obsessed. You say you're obsessed with me. So I take a second and I said me too. And I don't even think she sings that song. Like that's what's so insane when she performs now. And then her like lesser known follow up hit, which was to die for my nails, to die for this sex to die for. We all want something to die for. Like it was good. And then people didn't appreciate it. So she like rejiggered and like worked with Charlie XCX. Like this is what we got. And I'm sorry. Like it's not for me.

57:26Claudia Oshry:And that song, let me drive in the car, baby. I don't like it.

57:31Jackie Oshry:And that's the only song that I feel sounds like a song. And like it's not my favorite, but I can see how it's a song.

57:36Claudia Oshry:Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

57:37Jackie Oshry:Like I see it like there's a verse and there's choruses. Like I get it.

57:40Claudia Oshry:I actually don't even want to talk about this because it's like hurtful. No, sorry. All I have to say, Olivia Rodrigo comes on. It's hurtful. I don't think about it because it's like in Congress with what I wanted for her.

57:49Jackie Oshry:I just want to say about Olivia Rodrigo. Like, yeah, she did have this big weekend because she had a new single. And I feel like it was just kind of a weird like launch, don't you find?

57:59Claudia Oshry:Like, yeah, I think going on stage with Addison when it's so light outside, when Sabrina's headlining, like you can't do that if you're Olivia Rodrigo and you shouldn't do that because we're just going to compare the time of day.

58:10Jackie Oshry:And I think if you want to criticize Olivia Rodrigo, like you could if you wanted to. I don't. But like she's an amazing performer. And I thought the performance with Addison was so bad and like vocally off, visually off. Like the whole thing was so weird. And it's like Olivia Rodrigo could perform on her own at Coachella.

58:28Claudia Oshry:Maybe not headline, but maybe the one before that. And not to say that because she can do that, she shouldn't go on during the daytime because like Joe Jonas went on with Teddy Swims and Jonas Brothers went on. It just like when it's Sabrina, like you just can't do it. I'm sorry. Don't put yourself in that position. No, you have to be careful. And by the way, it's vice versa

58:47Jackie Oshry:because I remember when I went to Jingle Ball like four years ago, it was like awkward because we literally went for Olivia Rodrigo. Ben was the biggest fan and Sabrina played like two hours before and had like three songs. And it was just like, you know, she was on her way up and it was just like, it was awkward.

59:06Claudia Oshry:yeah it's awkward and those i feel like everyone was talking about they need to watch out for one another and they should not be in like the same state on the same weekend or else we're just going to compare and in this comparison olivia comes out the lesser her new song sounded good and i saw uh her music video was like her running around in versailles in her pajamas

59:23Jackie Oshry:and i thought it was so cute yeah i also watched this like whole long ass dissertation on her album cover and somebody was talking about like the lost art of the album cover like people just put up like blurry pieces of garbage and like make it an album cover and people like were really applauding her album cover on the swing it references like a great work of art it's called her album's called love is it what's it no what is it called new album you seem like you like me or something you seem pretty sad for a girl what so in love that's a long ass title just call it love yeah and she's like flinging backwards through the air on this swing i see like a really girly dress that's really cute yeah and i think it like references and maybe it's it's a painting that's at versailles it references like a famous work of art no and also in her song like

1:00:18Claudia Oshry:she says something about versailles like you look like yeah right the angels are playing down the ceiling or something and so they shut down versailles and let her run around in her skivvies slay yeah the meat cake so cute i thought that was really cute i so i only heard bits of the song but I liked how it sounded. Well, think about Olivia Rodrigo. She makes good music. Yeah, she really does.

1:00:40Jackie Oshry:So. So, yeah. Oh, and then there was Biebercella where he like kind of gave his all, you know? I feel like he took a little bit of the criticisms from the prior week. So he didn't do the YouTube thing again? I don't know if he did, but he added a bunch of like older songs that people, when you smile, I smile.

1:00:58Claudia Oshry:Like, and singing in full, you know? Yeah, and he sang One Less Lonely Girl. Billie Eilish went up as the lonely girl she's the biggest I know but she is like the biggest Bieber fan so no it was cute it was happy for her and then Big Sean came out too and then I also saw

1:01:13Jackie Oshry:um Phineas Yucky um he was there like with Billie and his his girlfriend Claudia and so like Claudia was filming her and Billie like singing and I feel like he doesn't get enough hate for actually like living with a girl who is his sister's twin like and I know everybody subconsciously like you know looks for someone who looks like their mom or whatever but I'm sorry he like went to a factory and had a Billie Eilish clone made like I couldn't tell them apart I just want to say I feel like

1:01:41Claudia Oshry:when Phineas and Claudia started dating at that point in Billy's career like Claudia did not look like Billy oh I agree do you think that um if anything like Billy has like she was inspired by Claudia and her looks? Like maybe. I think people should be looking into that more because I think over the years Billy has one just matured and also just started looking like Claudia more but you start to look like the people you hang with. Oh where do you get your lips done? I'll go there too. Oh what hair color do you use? Interesting. I feel like Billy is sort of morphing into his brother's girlfriend.

1:02:09Jackie Oshry:Maybe she was jealous. Very Teresa and Joe coded. Like I'm telling you there's something weird going on there.

1:02:13Claudia Oshry:So I don't I think I think people have it reversed. Just saying.

1:02:17Jackie Oshry:I smell barbecue. Do you ever just like randomly smell somebody grilling? I'd love the smell of barbecue.

1:02:22Claudia Oshry:Yeah. are you ready for our fifth and final story was there anything else from kacheli

1:02:29Jackie Oshry:nothing meaningful i would say no kylie was there timothy was in miami they she went to kachel like twice in a row and like didn't go with him but they do think that he was

1:02:37Claudia Oshry:there weekend one and that's just like might not be his scene and she loves it and with couples sometimes like justin bieber you do have to honor like your personal hobbies and and also don't drag your partner into them if you know they're not going to be unhappy because that's how like Like you end up fighting and ruining the thing that you once loved. Totally. Which was like your weekend at Coachella. And your relationship.

1:02:57Jackie Oshry:And then you're crying at Bieber-Chella because you and your men are fighting.

1:02:59Claudia Oshry:And that stinks up their relationship too. Like it's good to, you know, know thyself. I think Timothy knows thyself. I would agree. Our fifth and final story.

1:03:09Jackie Oshry:He knows Tim's self.

1:03:10Claudia Oshry:He does know the self. Anne Hathaway's People's World's Most Beautiful Cover Store. store. I love being where those people are. So Anna people's most beautiful issue is here and Anne Hathaway is the most beautiful and I would say everything about this is congruous. Yes.

1:03:37Jackie Oshry:I love when things align and I love when things make sense because to me when I think of people's most beautiful or whatever this award is called to me it's like always Julia Roberts right like and And I feel that Anne Hathaway is sort of a Julia Roberts of our time. She is. Where she has this beautiful smile. People just love her. She's so affable. And her movies slay after. Like there was a time where Julia Roberts, every movie, boom, boom, boom, hit, hit, hit. And that's kind of Anne Hathaway right now. Like her picker is good. And she's in every big movie every year. Yeah.

1:04:08Claudia Oshry:Yeah. This just makes sense. Makes sense. And she's promoting Devil Wears Prada. So she's like, you know, sitting down for stuff like this.

1:04:17Jackie Oshry:Oh, you know what? I'm a little scared because I saw a trailer for Devil Wears Prada like and it wasn't just like a kitschy trailer like the big one it was like a different trailer with like other scenes and it looked kind of bad why I'm scared just the acting was giving corny like I'm scared I'm really scared it better be good it better be good for all this hoopla like I'm my ass is going to the theater like I'm getting a sitter okay oh really yeah I can't believe it's not out yet we've been talking

1:04:44Claudia Oshry:We met it for so long.

1:04:46Jackie Oshry:I know. And the promo is giving like a little bit Barbie. They're doing like collabs and stuff, but not as annoying and crazy. Like they're doing like Old Navy. They have like Starbucks drinks for every character. Oh, that's cute. Because I guess like half the job was getting coffee. That's cute. I will say like the partnerships. Does Miranda drink Starbucks? Does she drink Starbucks? She does. You don't remember? Like she drinks a latte. And it has to be like a certain number of times. Yes. Oh, okay. Good. and I think that like the marketing department has been like more selective than Barbie and I think it's been like the partnerships everything I've seen has been really good like the Oscars was good it's good but like just release the movie you know

1:05:22Claudia Oshry:yeah yeah yeah yeah well congratulations to Anne People's Most Beautiful she could also be the cover of Sports Illustrated she could who did you say it was I guess the jury's still out it could be Whoopi Goldberg and I think it will be

1:05:43Jackie Oshry:okay I'm gonna hold you to that

1:05:44Claudia Oshry:who do you think it is an Olympian I like rescinded my bad guess like weeks ago so don't hold me to it okay well that's the Fast Life stories I feel as though you needed to know them that's our show turn to nine and I feel as though a lot of people

1:05:58Jackie Oshry:will try to take credit for it but it is ours yeah and I feel like you guys

1:06:02Claudia Oshry:know that dear reader

1:06:04Jackie Oshry:hopefully bend when you can snap when you have that's literally jackie in a fucking line bend when you can snap when you have to you because one thing about jackie she has like a i would say

1:06:17Claudia Oshry:like a tricentennial snap yeah you know i always say i have a very long fuse but the bomb at the end of it shrapnel fucking everywhere moab yeah it's true yeah and and yeah what does moab mean

1:06:34Jackie Oshry:mother of all moms you're literally like pete hegseth do you know what i mean like like your energy is like extremely pete coated 1000 i'm cracking like i'm cracking at moab i'm actually dying i never heard that oh oh my god i heard the funniest phrase last night my friend margo who you know she's just like so like you always say like a classical piano follows her She's just not of this time period. She's an elegant woman. She has porcelain skin. She's so, like, seriously, she could have been born in the Victorian age and she would have fit right in. Yes, yes, yes. She's a time traveler among us.

1:07:14Jackie Oshry:We were playing, we were playing, she is a time traveler. Like, it's insane. Her and her sisters, too, they all have this, like, very classically beautiful look. But it's not, yeah, it's not even just looks. They don't wear makeup, they're just gorgeous. Yeah, they're beautiful. You know, and then their personalities, they're very refined, polite women. Elegant women, yeah, like little women. Literally.

1:07:32Claudia Oshry:And so last year of Pajon. Not that we've ever read it or saw the movie.

1:07:34Jackie Oshry:We will, though. We will. We were playing Mahjong last night, and she was like, oh, and I just folded like a cheap suit. The whole room went silent. I'm like, what did she just? She was like, oh. She doesn't know that phrase. It was a giveaway. Her time machine is waiting for her.

1:07:53Claudia Oshry:One more slip up, and she has to go back. Oh, my God.

1:07:55Jackie Oshry:And her hand started to evaporate, you know, because she has to go back. and i just folded like a cheap suit what did she fold over because we were playing like um she always wants to leave early of course because the time machine like i like to like i want to play a lot of games and she was like i have to be home by 9 30 i have to be home by 9 30 and margot austray was always like yeah i want to leave i want to leave so we're finishing the last game and i was like would please play one more and margot austray was like no like i'm like setting a boundary and margot fish was like i mean i could play and then margot astray was like okay fine i will too and margot fish was like oh look at me just folding like a cheap suit

1:08:36Claudia Oshry:that's so funny did margot astray really say she has to set a boundary on time for mahjong

1:08:40Jackie Oshry:um so actually ben was cracking me up we did like it was actually a hilarious game of mahjong like we were playing this game and margot the bargos had both decided that it was going to be their last and ben was like no come on let's play one more and oh yeah this is how it went marco was like i'll play one more i feel like this is a boring story whatever she's like i'll play one more and margo was like no who's no you know what i just had to not want to tell the story anymore because i don't really remember how it happened and everyone's name is margo and i'm like i just

1:09:09Claudia Oshry:want to say margo was straight say she needs to set a boundary for the end of majon you need to

1:09:13Jackie Oshry:beat that out of her she said to margo fish who was like yeah i just fold like a cheap suit and And Margot's like, no, I'm good about setting boundaries.

1:09:20Claudia Oshry:And those two are from different time periods.

1:09:23Jackie Oshry:Margot actually is from the future. Like, okay. Now that's our show. TTFN, thanks so much for listening to the Toaston Lightning Morning Show. We love you. That's why I always need to have money on YouTube. So if you're watching this on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give us a thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast. We're a podcast. We found such a podcast. We can see your public video. I heard a kiss box. All the places you want to visit a podcast. We also have a podcast review. Everybody's sending it weekly. Talented. We hope you guys have an amazing day. And we'll see you tomorrow.

1:09:47Claudia Oshry:Love you. Bye.