Bombshell Besties: Friday, March 13th, 2026

4:06Jackie Oshry:I know. Such a pit. Such a pit. about the like about all of it but especially about like what could have been it was a preschool just i have like it was like it's a very big i actually know a lot of people who send their kids there like it's a big um compound it's a temple it's a preschool there was preschool was actively in session yeah um just terrible yeah really like seriously thank the lord and the security guard yeah um what else happened yesterday i watched the secret lives of mormon wives only the first episode i have a lot of strong feelings like extremely strong i think

4:38Claudia Oshry:I think I watched like 15 minutes enough to like see what's going on in the world of Slamu. And it's just sometimes when you haven't watched a show in a while, it takes like a second to get back in.

4:46Jackie Oshry:These girls are consummate professionals. The way I'm sat, like I forgot there's so much to catch up on. I forgot all about the Jordan and Jessie drama. Like I forgot really about a lot of it. So we're going to talk about it because we need to talk about Michaela and Jace. Like drama drama.

5:00Claudia Oshry:That will be in the story. So I think like fifth and final story, maybe fourth story will be like the news from Slamu and recap. I don't have a lot to spoil. I only watch the first episode. Right. No, same. But like there's a lot to say. And then fifth we'll do Beverly Hills because we have Beverly Hills stories. And we just have like a lot of stories to sum up the week, I would say. I like when a Friday ends in very full circle. I would call this episode in summation if I wanted to be.

5:24Jackie Oshry:If you wanted to come up with a title already. No, mine would have to be about the bombshell. What's that movie about? Megyn Kelly is called bombshell. Yeah. Just bombshell. I think so. It's like a bad name for the movie. Well, I think it was like, I never saw the movie.

5:40Claudia Oshry:You didn't?

5:40Jackie Oshry:No.

5:41Claudia Oshry:It was very good. Yeah, no, I heard great things. And based on what I think I know, let me tell you why I think it was called Bombshell. One, maybe it was based on a book called Bombshell. But one, like, I think the women were bombshells, right? Oh, double entendre.

5:53Jackie Oshry:And two, the scandal was a bombshell. Yeah, no, you're right. It was like a couple of bombshell women. So I think it was a double entendre. Okay, you're right for that.

6:02Claudia Oshry:For a movie I didn't see. Yeah. Maybe I'll watch it. It was. Like, it was a movie that felt like a real movie. Yeah. And the more I live... It doesn't come up. Like, I'm always looking for movies that are like, you know, were the glory movies of their day, but I didn't get around to watching them. And like, it never comes...

6:17Jackie Oshry:Wait, it was a very buzzy Oscar movie, like, of the year.

6:20Claudia Oshry:That was like Interstellar, you know? Interstellar. My new favorite movie that I don't understand. And I just want someone to talk to me about it. All right, I'll work on it this weekend. Like, I just want to know the end. It's not like, you know... No, actually... It's not like people have different interpretations of the end. It's like, it ends. And I'm just like, can I just get a clarification on what that was? You can Google it. I could, but I'd rather talk to people. I'm a people person. He's a communicator. I don't want to lose that human connection. I do.

6:48Jackie Oshry:Desperately.

6:49Claudia Oshry:I don't want to lose that human connection. That human what? I say. That human what? Connection. Yeah. I say please and thank you to chat GBT. Like, that's just something. Okay, well, you're wasting batteries. No, I actually saw a tweet that was such a slay about why it's totally fine. And you should say please and thank you to your chat, GBT, because it does inform how you move in this world. And you start barking orders. Right. And how some people, like when they have their kids talk to Alexa, they have them say please to Alexa. And even though Alexa doesn't need a please or thank you, it's like that's how you speak to people when you're asking for something.

7:23Jackie Oshry:I agree with what you're saying as it regards to children. in but like I know when I'm talking to a robot versus a human being I'm not going to start yelling at a waiter versus how I did a chat to BT last night when they were helping me make

7:34Claudia Oshry:salmon burgers no but like even I've I'm on this like text thread you're on it too where like you can text for things you know like where you have questions yeah you know what I mean yeah it's like a customer service it's a customer service text thread yeah and it's a person yeah on the other end however like the way that I write yes yes is the same way I write to chat like hi uh is this and this open, you know what I mean? And they always sign it like, hey, you're all set. Ex-Taylor from Relations, you know? Yeah, and like if I start like talking nasty to chat, then that's how I would talk in other customer service.

8:06Claudia Oshry:Like, I think it's a full 360 picture of manners.

8:10Jackie Oshry:I forget who said it, but honestly I think about this person. Somebody made a joke once. I really would love to know who it is to properly credit it. But like how they can never run for president because of that one customer service call. You know they like record for quality service. That's funny. I forget. I don't know if it was like a stand up special or somebody said it to me. I never heard it. It was so funny. I would love to properly credit. I'm sorry.

8:32Claudia Oshry:That's really funny. I've never heard that.

8:34Jackie Oshry:But yeah, like now our chat GBT history is going to start coming up in presidential elections.

8:39Claudia Oshry:But also regarding being polite to chat, it changes how chat responds to you. I saw that if you like our ass chat like reasonably and sensibly and politely, like they'll get you answers from Google or whatever. If you like bark orders at them, they get you answers from Reddit. Yikes. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. It was a very interesting.

9:00Jackie Oshry:But you are wasting a battery. You know, every time chat has to like. No, but come on an answer. It burns the energy of a lithium battery.

9:07Claudia Oshry:But compared to how much they burn in total, how much money is spent on chat, like you are pleasing your thank you is nothing. Don't worry about it.

9:14Jackie Oshry:Don't you feel like there was a big period of your life where like you didn't use batteries? Like I feel like batteries sort of like came back. Well, no, no. I feel like they were sort of going extinct until I had a baby. Now, oh my God, I'm always changing batteries on stuff. But like before that, the remotes don't have batteries anymore. Like besides kids toys, what uses batteries?

9:35Claudia Oshry:So my frother, I use a battery operated. Milk frother? Milk frother. What's it called? Yeah, like a skirt. Yeah. Because it's way more powerful. I tried the ones that charge. They stink. Yeah. They don't hold a charge and then they stop working and they use like the cheap USBCs. so Lauren Elizabeth was like you have to get a battery operated one and I did and since Lauren Elizabeth was on the toast in June I have not had to change the battery just saying.

9:58Jackie Oshry:We kind of got to go back to the OG batteries. Yeah. Like I feel that way about my stroller fan one of my like full time jobs is making sure the stroller fan is always charged especially while we're in Florida and the Hamptons too it was like over the summer such a big deal. You just had extra batteries in the stroller? I couldn't have been thinking like these should be battery operated. Yeah. Yeah.

10:16Claudia Oshry:Keep extra batteries in the stroller. And now people use like the cell batteries. What are those called? They look like quarters. Yeah. And they're very dangerous. Are they? For kids if they swallow them. It's like a problem. But a lot of them have the cell. What's it called? Button battery. It doesn't feel right either.

10:36Jackie Oshry:It's like cell. Okay. It's a button battery? It's a button battery. I mean, I guess it looks like a button. So that feels right. Cell. What is cell? What's it?

10:49Claudia Oshry:A coin cell battery.

10:50Jackie Oshry:Oh, a coin.

10:51Claudia Oshry:Yeah, a quarter. Okay, so we're all saying the same thing. Quarter. I'm happy. Maybe it's just like different brands. You know, it's like the Duracell. Versus the Energizer Bunny. Or the Buracell, you know? Energizer. That's all Duracell. Are there other batteries? Energizer. Oh, right. Am I speaking fucking English? You said Energizer Bunny. Yeah, because I was like, what's the company? Energizer. Interesting. They sort of gave up. Don't you find? They've not made that connection strong enough in the zeitgeist.

11:17Jackie Oshry:Don't you feel like they've sort of given up? There was like during my childhood, Duracell is the Coca-Cola, right? And they were really doing the most with their commercials just to sort of be like, there are other options for batteries. And I feel like they kind of gave up.

11:30Claudia Oshry:Yeah, I think they're just like, we're here. Take it or leave it. If you need a battery, you can call us. If we're sold out of Duracell. But we're not going to like try and convince you that you need batteries because like you'll know when you need one.

11:39Jackie Oshry:And I wouldn't say like I think consciously about what types of batteries, but I've never bought anything other than Duracell.

11:45Claudia Oshry:But you know, like Amazon makes batteries. Like if you go to Amazon to buy batteries. I do have a big box of Amazon Basics in my home in New York. So like that's the new battery. Yeah. Because like whatever comes up first. Yeah. That's the new battery. Whatever comes up first, Bestie. Okay. Slid that in.

12:05Jackie Oshry:Okay. She's crazy. Like I said, it's a bombshell episode. Did I lie? It's a bombshell episode, Bestie.

12:16it's a bombshell episode bestie everyone loves us

12:23Claudia Oshry:oh my god shall we get i guess bombshell of an episode okay you guys okay bestie okay bestie say less without further ado to do it is time for the fast five stories that you

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18:35Claudia Oshry:Our first story. Claudia dropped her iPad in a bombshell move. What did I say? Did I lie at the beginning of this episode? Our first story. Doja Cat is taking back Timothee Chalamet criticism and says, I've never been to a ballet or opera. My outrage was birthue signaling a way to garner clicks, likes and approval.

18:54Jackie Oshry:Slay the house down boots. I think it's actually amazing when someone's able to acknowledge this. However, I do like anyone who was susceptible enough to like hop on the Timothee Chalamet bandwagon of hate like is a loser. So while I really respect this, anybody who's like making videos like here's what I think about Timothee Chalamet. We don't give a fuck.

19:12Claudia Oshry:Like nobody asked. I saw a video yesterday that like really radicalized me to be pro-Timothee. You know the one? Yeah, I do. And like I said yesterday, when we closed out the segment, like I don't really care like about what Timothy said. Yeah. Didn't say I'm not mad. I'm not supporting it. Like I just don't care. After seeing some of these dumb bitches try and like make themselves seem important by discussing the matter. I feel the need to defend Timothy because I just can't be on the other side now.

19:44Jackie Oshry:Yeah. It's actually crazy how everybody's being like, here are my thoughts on the Timothy. Here are my thoughts.

19:49Claudia Oshry:who are you no seriously and it's not anyone that like would have any oh the only person allowed to

19:55Jackie Oshry:speak is missy copeland and she did and maybe like you know what she's allowed to be mad maria callis is she alive posthumously yes maria callis uh like again you in order maybe also jenny lind could have an opinion the real life here are the people who are eligible to be mad or even just like make a statement on um Mikhail Gorbachev okay Mr. Gorbachev tear down that wall Alexander Petrovsky yeah the actor who plays it because he was in the ballet Petrovsky he's like a famous ballerina Misty Copeland and anybody who can seriously name three operas or three ballets

20:33Claudia Oshry:and I not including the Nutcracker unfortunately no fine no Jackie and I just want to say Including the Nutcracker You can use that as your first one And I want to say like I went to the ballet This year Last year She supports She's what they call a patron I went to actually Two ballets last year So you actually can't tell me nothing Okay so you went to the Nutcracker And then And then the Nutcracker twice Okay Yeah so I've seen the Nutcracker Twice

20:57Jackie Oshry:Oh sorry I went also Were you there? In Palm Beach? Oh yeah last year Yeah

21:02Claudia Oshry:Yeah

21:02Jackie Oshry:Yeah

21:03Claudia Oshry:And we're not mad so Yeah Anyways Doja Cat I actually think like Doja Cat, I don't know if she's saying all of this in earnest. I feel like she was sort of conducting a social experiment on herself. Yes, it feels like the Stanford Prison Experiment. So she's walking back her criticism of Timothy amid the continued outrage over him dissing opera and ballet, if that's what you want to call it. She said, originally she chided him in a since-deleted TikTok post telling him that people give a fuck about opera and ballet. She explained, hey, by the way, opera is 400 years old. Ballet is 500 years old.

21:36Claudia Oshry:Somebody named Timothee Chalamet had the nerve, big guy, by the way, had the nerve to say on camera that nobody cares about it. You show up in a nice outfit, you sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up. That's the usual etiquette around those things. Maybe learn something from that. OK, now she said that she knows nothing about opera or ballet. She's never even been to see the theater in either art form live in person. She admitted that she merely jumped on the outrage bandwagon in her original video. She said, quote, I've never been to a ballet. I've never seen an opera. And I took it upon myself yesterday to kind of give it to the man because there is a culture based around outrage and things like that.

22:11Claudia Oshry:And people want to feel like they're part of something. It's a need to connect whether good or bad. What I was doing yesterday was virtue signaling because I wanted to connect. And I knew that Timothy's goof up was something that I could leverage in order for people to connect with me and fuck with me. And it's easy. It's a modern way to garden clicks, likes of people and all kinds of things like that from people. And so I did that yesterday and I didn't really think about why I was doing it. I don't know anything about opera. I don't know anything about ballet. And I've never been to either shows.

22:37Claudia Oshry:And I think I just wanted a hug. I think that's all that I wanted. This is kind of manic, but also a slay. I wanted a hug. I wanted to feel like I was a part of something bigger than myself. I wanted to be pat on the back the way everybody else is patting each other on the back in the comment sections. And I wanted to look like a hero. And that's what happened. And when I got it, I didn't like it so much. It just kind of furthers the fact that sometimes I think shit and then I'm like, never mind. so never mind. I mean this is really bordering between like prolific and manic. This is no I'm sorry this is kind of prolific it encapsulates so many different things that happen every day on the internet of people just like hopping on bagwag feeling rage for things that have nothing to do with them that they don't even care about that they don't even know about.

23:24Claudia Oshry:So manufactured. And just really needing a hug. Yeah. Needing to feel like a part of something.

23:31Jackie Oshry:You know, and it's not even that needing a hug. The part that I found to be so brilliant was like using the outrage. Like you actually don't even really feel strongly about in order to like garter likeness for yourself. Like there's community and being a hater. Yeah. And like you benefit from being an out. Like I'm sorry. This whole Timothee Chalamet thing is the biggest L for Jamie Lee Curtis. She's like one of the most famous people talking out, speaking out. And it's like, shut up.

23:57Claudia Oshry:Well, she like loves speaking out. She does. She's a speaker out. She loves like getting in the ring on things that don't have to do with her. And that's like, and now it has to do with her because now anytime something happens, it's like, well, what does Jamie Lee Curtis think? Because she sort of put that self in that position as like a cultural commentator. Okay. It's not for me, but okay. Yeah. And so I honestly, I love this from Doja Cat. Like I truly love it. A rare sleigh for one Mrs. Cat. I don't know. I feel like she slays here and there. She's confusing. like yeah but it's very yeah there's no like a lot of her internet behavior and just like career is like trolly so like i never know when she's being serious yeah and i wonder if she said something about timothy just so that she could then say this like i wouldn't be surprised if it's not like she actually went on this journey she was just trying to show you guys like this is what we're all doing not me sorry i don't do it i actually feel like whatever this is i do the opposite of like i you say the opposite just so somebody says that's how i feel yeah yeah yeah no like i want to be a part of nothing.

24:58Jackie Oshry:I actually do feel like we're so against this type of internet behavior that it does cloud our takes on stuff because we more often than not don't like to go with the herd. And I actually feel like in time, like in the moment, people are always like, you have the worst takes, whatever. But like years later, I actually always feel good about that. You know how I kind of feel like that now? I feel like people are really changing their tune on Sophia Franklin. And like at the time, I remember when we were discussing it, we were like, well, Sophia's not greedy for wanting more money. And like, you know, she does know the value of the podcast.

25:32Jackie Oshry:And really, everybody was like, Sophia's greedy. She's a slew or whatever. Like, and now everyone's like, we did wrong for Sophia. We? Not me. Like, I feel like we reported on that really fairly and didn't jump on the bandwagon only because honestly, like she was getting it so bad. Like I wasn't going to give it.

25:49Claudia Oshry:No, I think our bias came from not wanting like a podcast duo to break up. Like, because I think we always were like, can they figure it out? I feel like we saw ourselves in them and that just like hurts, you know? Yeah. Same with Grace and Brianna. And nobody wants to hear it, but same with like Live.

26:08Jackie Oshry:Like I think time will. Yeah, on your side. Yeah, like when the documentary comes out, it's like, you know what the Britney one, like it's like the media was so bad. It's like we're the media now. Everyone on the internet like creates public opinion. And so when the documentaries came up, I'd be like, the world was so bad to her. The world, it was you, not me. And like back in the day,

26:23Claudia Oshry:it was, you know, talking heads people on shows and stuff but now it's the comments and it's also like the people with the green screen videos and drama channels yeah and maybe like eventually i'll be have the wrong take because i just don't want to be on the side of the outrage um but yeah that's my gut feeling is i don't want to be on the side of the outrage especially when i i'm personally like not an outrage it does not have ballet and opera i don't have to do it when like a former pop star like

26:49Jackie Oshry:like the britney christina when all those like documentaries or books come out like the the takeaway for a lot of people is like oh the world was so cruel and the media and we have like people to blame right people are like people love to blame diane sawyer you know like for her crazy questions but now like the barber walters the media has thank you not diane sawyer barbara walters the media has sort of been democratized where like every like the opinions of people come from just like voices of randos comment sections random tweets that go viral so i think what doja cat has very poignantly pointed out is that like those like outrage just been like it just furthers that system it's just the new system yeah and so yeah it didn't go away it just changed exactly so like in years we're gonna be like i can't i really feel like people are gonna be like that with like lively being like the world was so evil and it's like well i tried to tell you guys

27:46Claudia Oshry:uh i don't know i'm i'm too confused on that one yeah i'm not gonna call it okay their way i'm just throwing my hands up um not my plate yeah are you ready for our next story the major news in the entertainment space travis kelsey is officially the new brand ambassador for six flags oh did we report this well he was like doing something with six flags and now it's that he will serve as Six Flags as brand ambassador and marketing partner. They also went out of business. Bankrupt. We reported that. Yeah, we did. Well, now they obviously have a big plan to come back. And it's Travis Kelsey. Well, that's good.

28:26Claudia Oshry:And what about that old guy that dances in the commercials? I mean, that was like literally when we were kids. He has since passed. He has. Yeah. I remember when he did. Maybe Travis will be doing that. Or his dad. Or he'll be dancing in commercials. Yeah. No, Travis is like very family friendly.

28:40Jackie Oshry:like and it's funny because I think like as a person he's not but his brand for some reason like hey why is because sports is very like you know kids and you know he's generally he's like one of the general mill cereal guys like it's he does like a lot of kids stuff so it's kind of perfect even though I think as a person he's probably like quite vulgar you know yeah but I love it yeah um cute very cute when's the last time you've been to Six Flags fun fact about me

29:05Claudia Oshry:I've never been to a Six Flags I don't like roller coasters there's somewhere in the northeast said similar to Six Flags, but it's not called Six Flags.

29:11Jackie Oshry:I've been to like plenty of amusement parks, water parks, like Splish Splash, you know. Amusement parks. Yeah. Where do we used to go at camp? Fun. Camelback? No, no, no. Fun. Splash Town. I've been to Splash Town. So much fun. But no. Splash Town. In Maine. What was. Camel. No, in Maine. Splash Town. No, Fun Town Splash Town. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those were some of the best memories of my life. Oh my God. I dreaded those days. Classic you. I dreaded. When I die and like what I envisioned heaven, it was literally Funtown, Splash Town. Oh, my God. I wonder if it's as like beautiful as I remember.

29:44Claudia Oshry:I remember it being like the most like I know amusement parks can be gross, but like Funtown was like the premium. Yeah, it was like fancy.

29:53Jackie Oshry:Was it? Definitely not. No, OK. It was like probably the most fun I've ever had, like the happiest I've ever been in my whole life.

30:00Claudia Oshry:I always wound up having fun on those days, but I just dreaded it. I hate the field trip. I remember when I was a freshman in high school at my first high school that I went to because I transferred high schools in the middle of high school which yeah is as hard as it sounds um we won our school uh color war like you got a trip every grade like and it's kind of amazing the freshmen meet the seniors huge so we got a trip to Six Flags and I remember my allergies were so bad that day you're such a diva I guess it was like at the beginning of spring like seriously obviously hauling in the air and I'd never been on upside down roller coaster yeah me neither and like my friends convinced me to go on one so I could wait on the line and by the time we got to the end of the line I was like I really don't want to go but like I just waited on the line like I have to go I can't I'm just wasting my time so I did it I went on an upside down roller coaster and it was such a thrill really yeah I then I read rode like a couple more you throw up no I had a great day and then by the end I was like I've had my fill I never need to do this again

30:57Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I have been on like a couple of roller coasters. Upside down? No.

31:01Claudia Oshry:That's like, that's when you've leveled up.

31:03Jackie Oshry:I'm sorry. I think that's so unnecessary. Like in this life, what are we doing? And anytime I've gone on a roller coaster, like right when I'm like at the apex, I'm like, why the fuck did I do this? And like, I don't even like it afterwards.

31:13Claudia Oshry:Like, I'm sorry. No. It was called Spider-Man. That was the one I went on. Anyone been there? Six Flags.

31:19Jackie Oshry:What's the Funtown Splash Town? Like the big one. It starts with an eight. Excelsior. Yeah. It was made of wood. And I do feel like it's probably like condemned now. I need to look up pictures of Funtown Splash Town just to like remember.

31:30Claudia Oshry:And it had like a little town, right? It felt like you were in the Beast.

31:33Jackie Oshry:Kind of like how Disney has like Main Street. Yeah. Funtown Splash Town. So it is still open for business. I wasn't big on the Splash Town. Oh no, temporarily closed. That's really upsetting. Yeah. Creates memories that will last a lifetime. Apparently not. Well, you could go to Six Flags now.

31:50Claudia Oshry:No, Funtown Splash Town like is. Well, I guess now the adult version of going, the parent version of going to Six Flags is like going to Disney with your kids at this age.

31:59Jackie Oshry:Excalibur, not Excelsior. I'm sorry. And yet it was literally made of wood. That does not look safe.

32:05Claudia Oshry:You look like a piece of wood. You look like a piece of wood. But it was like the biggest wooden roller coaster in the country. So it's actually insane that we were going on a wooden roller coaster. Yeah. You had to do it.

32:17Jackie Oshry:You just had. You had to.

32:19Claudia Oshry:With a little funnel cake to top off the day. Works for me. Anyways, Travis is going to be experiencing all these memories and more as the new ambassador of Six Flags. I can't wait to see Taylor there. And I'm sorry if he doesn't bring Taylor to Six Flags. He's not serious about the brand.

32:34Jackie Oshry:I hope they bring back their commercials. That was like a core part of our childhood was all the commercials. And they were kind of very culturally iconic and relevant. Yeah. Let's see what's in store. I like this. And I think we should bring back theme parks. I don't think they ever went out of style. But kids are just always on their phones. Like, you know what? Why don't you leave your phone at home and go to the theme park for the day? Eat. Get sick from eating. And that's good old-fashioned fun. It's true. good for the mental health. I know kids are all obsessed with mental health. These days, go to the theme park.

32:57Jackie Oshry:It'll fix everything. It's true.

32:59Claudia Oshry:Are you ready for our next?

33:00Jackie Oshry:I sound like one of those toxic adults. Oh, you're anxious? Just calm down. Don't worry. Oh, you're fine.

33:05Claudia Oshry:Don't worry about it.

33:06Jackie Oshry:Drink some water. How about this? Don't worry about it. Don't worry

33:11Claudia Oshry:about a thing. You ready for our third story? Mm-hmm. Livvy Dunn is joining the Baywatch reboot. She's beginning a new acting career and And it will begin with a role in the Baywatch reboot, which is a great way to begin an acting career for Livy Dunn.

33:27Jackie Oshry:Yes. Unfortunately, I feel this is absolutely zero shade to Livy Dunn. I think she's great. And like, I love this for her. But I already have like a lot of suspicions about this sort of cursed franchise. And I do feel like they're doing a little bit too much. And I'm more sure than ever that the show is going to be bad. Sorry.

33:46Claudia Oshry:Is that a set that you're wearing? It is. It's very cute. Thank you so much. Little cable knit. Yeah. Shorts. I would get up, but I don't want to. No, no, you don't need to.

33:54Jackie Oshry:Yeah, so I'm wearing, it's from Aloe. It's a cable knit. It's actually cashmere. Like, Aloe doesn't make athleisure anymore. They, like, switched to making high fashion. You say they make, like, leather purses now? Oh. Yeah, it's weird. It's, like, not a store for, like, leggings anymore. It has matching shorts, yeah. It's so cute. Thanks so much. I'll be sure to link it on my Shop My.

34:11Claudia Oshry:Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I'll take one. Yeah. Anyways, back to Olivia Gunn. You know what? But I'm really into not just like the watch reboot, like whatever the show is going to be. I'm loving the news. You know what I mean? Yeah, of course. Like we're more excited about like the releases. Who else is going to be in it? Also, I need to say Hasse Harrison is in Yellowstone. Did you see our comments? Yes. I saw like one comment and I know who she is now. And she married the guy. Yeah. I know who she is now too. I'm surprised we didn't recognize her. She's whatever. What did they used to call? The bunny.

34:42Claudia Oshry:Bunny hopper.

34:43Jackie Oshry:Yeah.

34:43Claudia Oshry:She was like a bunny hopper who found love in the Yellowstone barn. It was a little bunny hop, hop, hop.

34:47Jackie Oshry:And then they're married in real life.

34:49Claudia Oshry:Bunny barn. Bunny. Okay. Bunny. Babe. Okay. What's the word?

34:58Jackie Oshry:I thought we decided it was a bunny hopper. No. It's a bunny hopper now.

35:02Claudia Oshry:Okay. But you guys know. Yeah, you know what we're talking about. I'm some really excited. What? Bubble bunny. Buckle bunny. Yeah, buckle bunny. Because you just like. Undo the buckle.

35:13Jackie Oshry:I don't know. You just like do stuff. Of the rodeo? Yeah, like you only date cowboys, like for fun.

35:19Claudia Oshry:Yeah, but you also are in the rodeo yourself? Yeah, like you're like a groupie. It's a groupie for the rodeo. Okay, love it. Yeah.

35:30Claudia Oshry:So, Libby Dunn will be in Baywatch. Amazing. Great, more. I love the stories about Baywatch casting. Great job. Is it your new Annie Live? It's the new Annie Live. it's sexy Annie Live yucky it's the sexy version of Annie Live it's Annie grown up it's Annie after dark you guys if you were not there for Annie Live and by we mean there by there we mean here here at the toast for the year leading up to Annie Live

36:02Jackie Oshry:like you missed out on the experience I was actually on tour when Annie Live was playing was live yeah when they were actually broadcasting the live performance I was on stage and we were talking about it the whole time I was like, what's going on on Annie Live? It was like the Super Bowl. Oh, my God. Seriously, take me back. Yeah, right. That was the last time I was truly happy. Take me back.

36:27Jackie Oshry:That was so funny. We just, like, couldn't stop reporting, like, all the updates. Like, you would have thought we had a gun to our head. You would have thought we were being... The castings, the drama, the relationships, like, everything. We were the leading source, the leading news network on all things Annie Live. And I don't know why. And then we did watch it. Of course, I had to watch it late because I was on stage when it was being broadcast. And it was live. It was amazing. I loved it. The dog was amazing. What about three bucks, two bags, one me?

36:54Claudia Oshry:Three bucks, two bags, one me. That was good. Harmony. Yeah. You guys. Oh, my gosh. We need more lives. Yes. I miss that era so much. Grease live, rent live. I know it's so bad. It never goes well. Everybody hates it. Except everybody loved The Wiz. That was like the one that wasn't bad. Thankless. Yeah. You will get nothing and you probably won't get another role.

37:17Jackie Oshry:Vanessa Hudgens literally like performed it the night her father died. Like it was so high stakes. It was, I think, uh, what was the other live?

37:25Claudia Oshry:I was just thinking of. Hairspray. Oh, Hairspray. Ariana was Penny Pingleton. Like you had to be there. And it was so bad that I actually don't think there's like a version you can watch now. Like unless you DVR'd it. Peter Pan live starring. Alison Williams. I think that ruined her career. definitely didn't help it's a career and the girl who played tracy termlad for hairspray live never saw her again well the thing is about the role of tracy termlad always like after the original role

37:52Jackie Oshry:of ricky lake whose career it made it is a cursed role that's why i actually don't ever always cast

37:57Claudia Oshry:an unknown so it's like this might be the only role you get yeah um and it's not a particularly

38:02Jackie Oshry:flattering role like tracy's sort of like the butt of the show you know but you get to show off your chops yeah so it's actually insane how good nikki blonski was like i know it's like a joke hey it's nikki blonski from hairspray and she's like a toothless wonder now but like it's actually insane she was operating at a level unbeknownst to the culture like it took everything from her you know it left nothing yeah like it is the best singing acting dancing just like overall performing

38:31Claudia Oshry:i've ever seen yeah that's what's so crazy about it yeah so please bring back lives

38:38Jackie Oshry:Yes. And, you know, I long to be a part of something. And everyone watching something live, the live element, you had to watch it live because it was so high stakes.

38:44Claudia Oshry:And some of them went off without a hitch. Like, no one's career was ruined. Like, Carrie Underwood and The Sound of Music. Oh, yeah. That one was sort of like, I don't think a lot of people watched it.

38:53Jackie Oshry:Like, it wasn't newsmaking.

38:55Claudia Oshry:Yeah. But it went off okay.

38:57Jackie Oshry:So it can happen. It was an NBC thing, right? They should do Wicked Live. Yeah. Oh, my God. I love that.

39:01Claudia Oshry:They should do The Greatest Showman live.

39:03Jackie Oshry:They should. We have ideas. Hire us. We'll be consultants for the project.

39:08Claudia Oshry:And then we'll report on every single cast. Built-in promo. It's amazing. It's a win-win. Are you ready for our fourth story, which is going to lead into our Beverly Hills recap? Yes. Because so funny last night, The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills stars attended an opera. You're kidding. Oh, on the show?

39:23Jackie Oshry:Oh, I didn't watch. Wait, you didn't watch? No, I asked you last night, are we watching Salamo or Real Housewives of Beverly Hills? You said Beverly Hills, and I said, okay, I'm watching Salamo. Oh, I figured that meant that you were just watching both.

39:33Claudia Oshry:No, and the last couple of episodes were like sort of meh. Well, now they're in Italy. Okay. Oh, my gosh. And they went to an opera. Well, the villa has its own theater. Yes, it does. And not just a movie theater. A stage. And they put on an opera, which was just so funny considering opera is so in zeitgeist. And we see like Sutton. It's kind of like an amazing. Yeah, I thought it was hysterical. Amanda Francis is like on her phone. Sutton was. That's so rude. Sutton said that she falls asleep at the opera. And she's like a fancy lady. So she's just not for the opera, which is fine. I also want to say, I feel like opera.

40:03Claudia Oshry:Oh, and Bose is saying, she's like, I love the opera. I'm actually on the board of the LA opera brand board. And I literally felt like this episode was put together in the last week in response to Timothy. That's so funny. Kyle's like filming. We're seeing everyone, how they engage with the opera. What about Kathy Hilton? Kathy Hilton, you know, she sat. Yeah. Erica loves. Yeah. Jennifer Tilly's mother was an opera singer. So she said she loves the opera. I believe that. We literally got every single woman's thought on the opera. Before Timothy, like that unbridled thought. I genuinely think they had to have edited the episode this week.

40:37Claudia Oshry:It was so brilliant. Then Jennifer Tilly comes out singing. She sings like an opera singer. She used to sit at the piano with her mother and sing opera. Everyone has a connection to opera, positive or negative. Do we have a connection to opera?

40:50Jackie Oshry:Aside from the fact that I could have been an opera singer in another life?

40:53Claudia Oshry:No, maybe we should go to the opera.

40:55Jackie Oshry:I just feel like opera singers, female opera singers, are busty by nature. I don't know if it's something about the breathing or the corset. and I do feel like if I was born in another era like I would have sort of had to have become just due to my voice and my breasts like an opera singer

41:07Claudia Oshry:we should see an opera

41:09Jackie Oshry:okay actually with all this opera chatter I did see a DM I didn't open it from the Metropolitan Opera in the city asking if we wanted to come

41:15Claudia Oshry:well if there's like

41:16Jackie Oshry:I meant to respond to it but I forgot

41:17Claudia Oshry:a South Floridian Opera that would like to have me no I'll be back in New York soon so I'll go would like to have me I would like to do we have to wear a gown or like can you wear leggings to the opera you like can't I don't think you can I think that's what's great like even when we went to the Nutcracker everyone dressed up. I wore a Hill House. It was really amazing. And everyone else was so dressed to the nines. Maybe I'll put on like trousers. Yeah. Like that is we need to bring back that. Agreed. And we also need to thank Timothy. It's true. I also saw a theory that whoever unearthed this clip from the interview that was like two weeks ago that came and went.

41:46Claudia Oshry:And it was such a long interview where like a lot more buzzy moments happened. That it's one of his ops for best actor that sort of dug this up and disseminated it to cancel Timothy. I'm sorry. If this is the thing, does this sort of impact Oscar voting?

42:01Jackie Oshry:Oscar voting's over, right? Well, look at Carla Sofia. Yeah, I guess. But did Carla Sofia sweep every award before the Oscars? Timothy has won every single award except for the SAG award. And BAFTAs, he didn't win.

42:14Claudia Oshry:Yes, I thought he won everything. No, the last couple he lost. He won the Golden Globes. He's still poised to win, but if he had a major scandal right now. But it's not a major scandal. No, but if he had like a major scandal right now, I do not think that the Oscars would have him win. Right, like if somebody like came out and like accused him of something. It was like really terrible. So I guess like he must be a perfect person if this is the worst thing that they could find on him. Yeah. But I just thought that was an interesting theory. Yeah. That someone's trying to cancel him so they could win the Oscar.

42:43Claudia Oshry:I mean. It's giving like Nancy Kerrigan. A bat to the knees. You know, like he's Nancy. Yeah. This is so Tanya. and there's a Tanya out there that we need to find. I, Tanya. I, Tanya. Yeah. It was a crazy movie. Yeah. I saw that one. It was good. It was good. Why do you think it was crazy?

43:02Jackie Oshry:It was a crazy story.

43:03Claudia Oshry:It was just like crazy that we need, like Tanya Harding, like, Yeah, no, it was kind of like, put a hit out on Nancy Kerrigan's legs so that she couldn't win.

43:12Jackie Oshry:It was like trying to garner sympathy for Tanya, being like, oh, well, she's poor. Okay. Like, so poor people don't bash into other people's knees. is a herping port. It was all about how like she had to grow up skating, practicing at the mall for the free, and like Nancy had a private coach. So she deserved her knee bashing.

43:28Claudia Oshry:Yeah, that was kind of like a big flop in Margaret. But that's like classic Hollywood. They want you to see the other side. The other side. Yeah. The evil person side. I'm good. It's just like not my favorite.

43:36Jackie Oshry:That's kind of how I felt about the Aaron Hernandez documentary. It was like, well, he's gay and he couldn't tell anyone, so that's why he killed his friend. And I'm like, okay, I feel like there are other ways to, yeah, come out. To cope. And I actually feel like the gay community was like, please exclude us from this narrative. Like it was just kind of blaming the fact that he was like closeted and football is like toxic for gay people. And that's why he had to kill his friend.

43:58Claudia Oshry:I didn't like that documentary in terms of that, but I learned a lot. Yeah. That's one of my least favorite tropes. Oh, also I was thinking of you on Beverly Hills last night because Erica referenced your favorite documentary. Very identical strangers. No, that's my favorite.

44:10Jackie Oshry:What is my favorite Joan Rivers piece of work?

44:12Claudia Oshry:No. Wait, let me think. True. Think Blackfish. No. I have a lot of favorite documentaries. Like think like cult, cult. Because they're talking about Amanda being in a cult.

44:22Jackie Oshry:What's my favorite cult documentary? Eat, Sweet, Pray, and Obey, whatever that one's called. Mother God. Oh my God. She's like a silver woman. I literally blocked out that documentary. That was like turn and I watched it pregnant. I was obviously like scraping the bottom of the barrel because when I was pregnant, I watched everything. So I had like nothing left to watch. And somebody, Remy Dater, was like posting on the stories about this HBO Max.

44:48Claudia Oshry:Mother Earth. What did Erica say? Oh, my God. She was saying how Amanda Francis was talking about being in a cult. And I don't know what the women were trying to say in their confessionals. But just sort of that, like her story sort of ends. She ran away in the night. And that's that on that. And she just had to like threaten the pastor to get him deordained. And they stopped bothering her. And then Erica was like, you know, when you think of cult, you think of Charles Manson. And, you know, I saw Mother God, the woman turned silver and they're carrying around her dead body in a station wagon wrapped in Christmas lights.

45:18Oh, my God.

45:19Jackie Oshry:Erica is so fucking real for that.

45:21Claudia Oshry:She's so funny in her conventional.

45:22Jackie Oshry:I wish I watched this episode because also, you know, Ben's obsessed with The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. So I have to watch every episode with him. And he watched that documentary with me. And he actually did not forgive me for like four days for making him watch it.

45:30Claudia Oshry:Well, now it all, oh, your hard work pays off because you'll have a nice laugh.

45:34Jackie Oshry:The silver woman. Yes. And they did. They like kept her body alive in a hotel room. And then the hotel was like, we're a little suspicious. Like, can we come in? And they were like, no, you can't come in. So they smuggled her body out in a tarp and buried her out in the woods. And they were waiting because like, obviously, the point of the cult was that when Mother Earth died, we give her back to the earth. And then like basically like the Messiah comes or whatever. And they like left. Like she died. They gave her back to the earth and nothing happened. And we just had to like, it was just like awkward.

46:02Jackie Oshry:It was just like it was very disappointing for those people.

46:06Claudia Oshry:Yeah. So I don't know if they were trying to say like Amanda. I don't know what they were trying to say, but just that her cult story is like not that crazy. Yeah. And I think maybe they were expecting like just something crazier.

46:19Jackie Oshry:She might have just sort of been a part of like a deeply religious zealot community. Yeah. And like made the choice to lead, which I'm sure was really hard, but it's not necessarily like a cult. Yeah.

46:29Claudia Oshry:Yeah. I guess like a cult is like, you know, an open and determined people use it like very generously. sometimes you know they call this show a cult they do call the show a cult and we are be sure

46:39Jackie Oshry:to head over to patreon.com to buy your membership into our cult um also so they're in italy the villa

46:48Claudia Oshry:is so so gorgeous it's so gorgeous and you know i don't have like wanderlust at all but it was like actually making me want to go to italy they were eating olive oil right off the olive tree like right over there and like i want to taste that now are there any olive trees in the u.s

47:02Jackie Oshry:I'm sure there are but I'm sure they're disgusting

47:04Claudia Oshry:why would they be disgusting if it's an olive tree it's not the same I'm down to clown it's not the same if you're asking me to go to Italy I will go with you it looks so amazing Rachel and Dorit are just like my faves yeah right now Rachel was sharing house so she's gone Roger's with the one son the other son is at his best friend's house the younger son is with Roger and he like sat him down and told him that he has a girlfriend like while she's gone and then the son like calls Rachel but she's sleeping because of the time difference and then when she finally sees his thing then he's sleeping she's like gonna jump out of her skin her injury are flipping yeah that this happened i just like i felt so so bad

47:38Jackie Oshry:roger's like not a good guy yeah it's actually insane how like crazy people become when they get divorced that's sort of the theme of real housewives of beverly hills it's like these men having midlife crisis and they're all very wealthy men so they do then go on to like date young hot things and it's not because they're interesting or good looking it's because that they're wealthy um and it just like is a real you know how uh do you ever see that adam driver scarlett johansson movie where like a marriage story where they walk you through a divorce. I didn't see it, but I, well, people say it's like, it was so well received because it was very relatable.

48:08Jackie Oshry:How like when you decide to divorce someone, you become, they become, and I'm sure you to them, a completely different person, an actual enemy. Um, and it was very hyper realistic. Like you almost wish that person was dead. Like you hate them so much. And I feel like Real Housewives of Beverly Hills recently has become like a marriage story. Like you're watching these men and then, yeah, we're only seeing it from the women's perspective,

48:28Claudia Oshry:but I believe it, you know? But I just like the blatant, like go divorce and like move on with your life and have a girlfriend, whatever. But like protect your kids as much as you possibly can. Insulate them from everything as much as you can. Yeah. Like don't bring the girlfriend for camp drop off. They're about to go away for a month and you're about to drop this on them. Yeah. Why? No, that's bad guy. Why? That's bad guy. You can have your summer with your girlfriend. Just wait five more minutes and leave her in the car. Yeah. So, okay, I guess we'll recap it. Whenever. Yes. Whenever you watch.

49:00Jackie Oshry:Before we go on, let me let you know that the remainder of today's show is brought to you by Gold Bond and their fabulous line of scented hand creams that I actually have here. Yes, we have all four scents.

49:10Claudia Oshry:I'm in a citrus mood. This is citrus pop. It has vitamin C and green tea.

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50:14Jackie Oshry:I feel like people who work in offices always need hand cream. The air conditioning can be very drying.

50:18Claudia Oshry:And if you have a desk, like you need to be keeping a hand cream in there.

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51:39Jackie Oshry:The Cedar Rain. Yeah, I guess like it being I guess that's why I like it. You know I love a massage and this feels like

51:44Claudia Oshry:what they use in a spa. And like a mini massage. You can't have a massage all the time. Skin care tip when you take a little too much which I just did. elbows. Don't forget the weenus. Oh, I always do my elbows because they're really dry and my self-tanner gets stuck there if I don't moisturize. Harji. Well, thank you, Goldmine, for sponsoring today's episode. Thank you so much. I love the hand cream break. I always love it. It's kind of nice, built in. Yeah. And today, like I said, bombshell episode, we need to be hydrated. Our fifth and final story, Slamu recap and news. Couple things, couple things.

52:13Claudia Oshry:They dropped all 10 episodes. I've only watched one. I'm going to watch a bunch over the weekend. I've watched 20 minutes, but the stage is set. Mormon Wives star Michaela Matthews splits from her husband, Jace Terry, amid their intimacy issues. So I'm sure this season will show us more of the devolution of their marriage.

52:28Jackie Oshry:Which is just crazy because if you had told me you're like, once they drop the new season, we're going to find out a couple get divorced. I'm like, well, it's obviously Jesse and Jordan. And I'm so champion. I know they have young kids and I do think people should work as hard as they can at that stage to stay together. I do feel like they work hard. I do feel like he's actually just a bad guy. And I do really want her to get away from him. He really scares me he has really sinister energy and the first episode he's like taking it upon himself to like make dad talk a thing and i know they all started making tiktoks together i think just like for fun and like maybe to get a couple of brand deals like to start earning money um but he's

53:00Claudia Oshry:like no he really thinks he's doing something no but not only that his reasonings for it is like really like stanister i we're doing it so we can show the stand on our own two feet so we can show the girls that they don't have a monopoly on social media they do actually and go get a job So fucking lame. You're doing it to show your wife that she's actually not that cool and everybody can do this.

53:21Jackie Oshry:And I guess like his big get was that like he got his manager to like call whatever to organize a trip for all the boys to go to Vanderpump Villa.

53:28Claudia Oshry:Which is so loser because I don't need him to hate Marciano or. But like I'm sorry if someone had an affair with your wife like you don't need to go on their show. I mean he's like so proud that he got this and he's like trying to convince all the guys.

53:39Jackie Oshry:And a lot of the girls like don't want their husbands to go. I do think a big group of them end up going. And if I was one of them, I would like, first of all, I wouldn't encourage Jordan and his weird dad talk like chip. He has a chip on his shoulder.

53:49Claudia Oshry:You want to be famous so bad that you'll go to Italy to do the show with like the man that your wife was in love with because you want to be on TV and you don't even care how.

53:59Jackie Oshry:But he wants to be on TV and like feel like he earned it outside of his wife. And he didn't. I think a lot of the guys actually the show is really interesting because it's totally flipped like traditional gender roles. And it's very cool to watch like a lot of these girls slay, slay, slay, make all the money. and their husbands sort of slide into this sort of provider role. Like a lot of times when we're watching, the dads are like holding the babies. Sorry, caregiver role, like domestic. A lot of times we're watching scenes and the guys are the ones holding the babies feeding them. And it's like nice to see that, how they've all, maybe they didn't envision that for their life, but I feel like Zach Affleck, Connor, they've all like sort of slowly, I forget his name, but Macy's husband, who I really like.

54:32Jackie Oshry:They are more than happy to like play that part of being sort of like the stay-at-home dads and just like letting the wife make the money and them supporting in other ways. and Jordan like will not have it. Yeah. He will not have it. And I think he was the only one whose wife was out earning him before. The show. No, not before social media. Like, cause she was the one with like the successful business. He should be used to it. Yeah. He like, he's not going quietly into like the sort of caregiver role. Yeah. And he's being so toxic, so beta. He got hair plugs. I hate him.

55:06Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

55:06Jackie Oshry:I hate him. I need Jesse to get away from him now.

55:08Claudia Oshry:Did they wind up going, well, I don't know if I feel that way because and we'll talk about this with Michaela and Jace so during last season viewers watched as they discussed intimacy issues they were experiencing in their marriage while she was extremely pregnant and they're trying to work on this yeah not the time um in season four it has Michaela sharing that there hasn't been a great deal of progress in working on the problem as she just had a baby and now is breastfeeding baby and they're still having intimacy issues it's like just fuck off as she was newly postpartum and experiencing flare-ups of her chronic illness now they have shared that they have split.

55:39Claudia Oshry:But does this mean separated? Does this mean divorce? Like, is it final?

55:43Jackie Oshry:It's not giving final. Okay. But it's giving like that they've decided to take a break.

55:49Claudia Oshry:Like Whitney and Connor and Jen and Zach Affleck have shown me that anything is possible. It's true. And that change is possible. And it makes me want to root for these like young couples with young families to stay together.

56:04Jackie Oshry:I agree. I feel that way about literally everyone except for Jordan and Jesse. The thing with Michaela and Jace is that the intimacy issues are rooted in her childhood trauma. And because they're both so young, she hasn't fully worked through it. And he does not have the emotional intelligence as a partner to support her in that way. To be intimate with somebody who experienced childhood sexual trauma, like you have to be a very thoughtful, intelligent, emotionally intelligent type of person. And I just feel like he's not willing to put in the work and be that. He just wants her to get fixed. And once she's fixed, we can go back.

56:36Jackie Oshry:But he doesn't realize he has to be a part of the healing. So they are definitely at a little bit of a standstill. Well, I feel like he's been, you know, patient with her and they've been together for a long time.

56:46Claudia Oshry:He is a lot older than her. So he should be like more. Oh, is he? Yeah, mature. He should be, yeah. And also people like sort of red flag their relationship. I think they got together when she was young. She was underage, yeah. But they have three kids. Like, okay, they're married. Yeah. But so I just don't understand like why now, like if she's always like had this sort of guard up, like why is he giving up on her now? In the throes of pregnancy, postpartum, when like no one is at their best intimate life. Most intimate self. Yeah. Like why can't we like put this on the shelf for the moment? Yeah.

57:18Claudia Oshry:And then get back to like working on things. I don't know. Maybe I'll watch a season. I'll be like, oh, they had to split. But things will have to be really, really bad between them for me to think that they should split up. when they just had a baby. When they just had a baby, they have three kids. All throughout the show, they've seemed to be one of the better couples. And of course, you know what you see, we don't know. But like they seem just like happy and sweet and loving towards each other. And if he like really loves her and she's going through something like so difficult, like you be there for her.

57:45Claudia Oshry:Yeah, no, it's definitely a red flag. Like I'm really annoyed with him. Agreed. And I understand it's probably hard for him. He's in a hard spot. But like not only has she been through so much, last season she was pregnant, this season she's postpartum breastfeeding bread winning can you fuck off for a second i agree just can you fuck all the way off for a second and like well let's circle back let's circle back next year yeah you know when i was not expecting them to be the ones the ones and i remember last season when jesse and jordan like had their bragus and everyone was like shook you know shook the montauk world and those girls were saying like it makes you like look at your own marriage and make sure like your home is in order and i was like macy you don't have to worry like yeah it was like Sorry, it was Macy and Mikaela saying that.

58:28Claudia Oshry:Like, now we're, like, all worried. And I'm like, well, you guys are fine. Yeah, I do really like Mikaela and her husband. I'm sorry, Macy and her husband. I think he's a good guy. That's what you think. Jacob. Jacob, yes. And I think so, too. But I thought, like, Mikaela and Jace were, like, good. I thought we didn't have to worry. Yeah.

58:45Jackie Oshry:I think more so, like, I think maybe I thought that they were good, but I didn't think he was, like, an amazing good husband. And I feel like with Jacob, I actually think he's, like, a very, very good husband.

58:53Claudia Oshry:Yeah. And Macy's been through a lot, too.

58:56Jackie Oshry:Yes. And when I hear her story, I'm like, oh, she got a good guy. Like, I'm happy for her.

59:01Claudia Oshry:Support your partner. So it's hard for me to say without having watched this season, and maybe I'll see things differently. But right now, I'm just like, please, like, we can work it out.

59:09Jackie Oshry:Oh, and, like, Jordan's, like, the one who's, like, really, really friends with Dakota, who I think is, like, a really toxic guy, too. I mean, he's always the one, like, including, and, like, they are, like, the dad talk. And I'm like, well, they both have, like, such bad motives to me. No, and it's like Jordan can't really align himself with Dakota because Dakota's single. So Jordan can't move. Well, Jordan is obsessed with like getting all the guys to go to the villa and especially the single guys. He's like, oh, well, Mason's coming, but he has a girlfriend. It's like, dude, you're married.

59:35Jackie Oshry:Right. What are you talking about?

59:36Claudia Oshry:He's like aligning himself with the single people and then he'll start to behave like them. Like if he was wanting to go to Vanderpump Villa with Jacob and Zach Affleck, then maybe things would be kosher. Oh, wait, something really crazy.

59:48Jackie Oshry:So they go to L.A. and Whitney is set up in her house and they're getting ready for Dancing with the Stars. and they were talking to Jen and Zach and they like can't find a place to live, like all the Airbnbs, whatever. They're like, their plans are like just not working out. So Connor like sort of offhand is like, well, if you need a place to stay, you can stay with us for a couple of days. And so Jen, their kids, their nanny, her assistant, all move into Whitney's rental for like a couple of days. So I don't know what ends up happening with them, but I know that like Jen hates Whitney and it's actually crazy because Whitney, at like a very important pivotal time in her life and she made the arrangements, like this is important to her.

1:00:19Jackie Oshry:She got herself a house. Like I don't know if the show pays for it. I think the show gives you a stipend, But I think they need, you know, more than a typical apartment.

1:00:25Claudia Oshry:Like Masked Singer.

1:00:26Jackie Oshry:Exactly. So, like, they made their own arrangements. And Jen just sort of, like, moves in, like, with the biggest moving truck you've ever seen in your whole life. Like, I thought that was really crazy. That is crazy. Do you think it was for the show? Sometimes Conor's generosity, like, gets us in trouble. And I don't know if it was for the, but it's actually insane that, like, Jen hates Whitney so much. When, like, that's an incredibly generous thing to do. I would never.

1:00:49Claudia Oshry:Yeah. That is very nice of Whitney. I can imagine Jen, but I'm sure stuff happened behind the scenes, but like they just had such different experiences on dancing with the stars. Like I could see her hating Whitney just for like thriving in a way that she could jealousy, but it's like frustration at this show and the fans circumstances and the circumstances. And yeah. And if, and I'm sure other stuff also happens. I don't think Jen would just be like, Oh, well she thrived and I'm jealous. Yeah. Um, but that is nice that to start that they offered them. It's so crazy. And I just can't believe like Jen, we already said like especially when now I can speak my truth when Claudia was doing Masked Singer that was when Dancing with the Stars was airing and we were watching Jen and I'm like this girl

1:01:33Jackie Oshry:has two months behind me so I had a four and a half month old and I was in hell she had a two and a half really yeah she's behind me because she just posted like eight months postpartum I'm almost 10 months postpartum got it so she was two months postpartum she has two other kids

1:01:50Claudia Oshry:she's moving her whole life and dancing with the stars is like so it's every single day all day every day just had two kids and you're telling me they didn't even have a home insane i thought they did it you know they were set up like that not that it's ever going to be easy but like if you're set up and you're parked and your kids have a house in a backyard and you can go to work like it's okay they didn't even have a house insane it's harder than i thought and that's why i was like trying to just like give jen so much grace because i'm like this is so hard what she's doing and I feel bad for her and I felt like she could never have passed up this opportunity but it might have not been the right time agreed so that's just the empath in me yeah no 100 % she's an empath oh and crazy Dakota says that he slept with Taylor the night before she left to film for the next and then there's a scene

1:02:36Jackie Oshry:in like the upcoming trailer where it's like coming up this season is like it looks like they're in bed together and at that point like I do have to unfortunately stop defending Taylor Freaky Paul like if that's the case after last season like the fact that she hasn't washed her hands of him is the biggest red flag. And that doesn't make me, that doesn't bode well for her.

1:02:53Claudia Oshry:It doesn't bode well for her openness to find the love of her life committed partner. Not even openness.

1:02:58Jackie Oshry:I believe she's open. I don't think she's ready. Like I don't think she's emotionally mature enough.

1:03:02Claudia Oshry:No, she couldn't even if the perfect guy came right up to her. Oh, and introduce himself. She would be like, where's Dakota?

1:03:09Jackie Oshry:And then she's like starting to see someone. She met him on Tik TOK live. She like was scrolling Tik TOK. Saw this guy singing. Yeah, really bad. But I do feel like he's one of the contestants. He looked like one of the pictures. Yeah. She picks him up at the airport.

1:03:19Claudia Oshry:And Chase. Chase.

1:03:22Jackie Oshry:Question mark.

1:03:22Claudia Oshry:He's like in love with her, helping her move out. Yeah, I don't know. I'm surprised he didn't go on The Bachelor. Yeah. Maybe he tried. He should have. That's what I meant when we got her cast. I was like, I'm surprised there's no like other storylines here.

1:03:33Jackie Oshry:Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they're really doing a good job or at least trying all the Hulu shows to like connect them with one another. And so the Vanderpump Villa. But I do feel like Vanderpump Villa is not a popular show. And they kind of need to stop forcing it. If it weren't for that one episode where the Mormon wives went, I don't know if they even would have gotten renewed. so now it's like the guys are going and it's like I appreciate the synergy but with this particular

1:03:52Claudia Oshry:show like nobody cares yeah and it's like all I want to know is what happened at Vanderpump Villa but I can't just watch it I won't I won't it's like even last season when all I wanted was like more housewives Mormon housewives I was it never even occurred to me just to watch it just watch

1:04:06Jackie Oshry:our episode Demi was on this episode it was like weird even though I was under the impression that she's not a part of the show anymore maybe she lives in the middle also did you see the opening

1:04:14Claudia Oshry:credits. Yeah, Taylor's up. Wait, but I thought it was so weird. First, they're like in cream dresses. They do half the cast and then they change into these like blue dresses.

1:04:23Jackie Oshry:And I thought it was weird because they do like how in Housewives, like there's everyone's holding an apple and every season it's like Taylor's always in the middle, but they're all like at this one, Taylor's up on a platform and they're all underneath her. Like I thought it was weird.

1:04:36Claudia Oshry:But why did they switch color dresses? It was like going really party aesthetically. And then they went into these like corny princess dresses first it was like cornfield like you know of the

1:04:46Jackie Oshry:land natural and i would have thought like maybe in the beginning seasons like taylor was so much but now like especially whitney's there i really see them all as equal now yeah some maybe less than others i feel like miranda maybe layla like is on a lower tier but like for the most part they all are fairly and actually layla was slaying last night she was like i just don't know how to tell Jessie I fucking hate Jordan and she just did like I loved it like actually she's the only one who's doing anything um about like this really just bad guy in our midst yeah um so we'll see

1:05:22Claudia Oshry:about tailored and Dakota because at this point it's like maybe just be with Dakota yeah if you can't not if you can't not like be together that's great forever like great and you love him and you I can't quit each other. So just be together. Yeah. Forgive each other. Truly. Move on. Tabula rasa. And be together because you love each other and you have a family. Like maybe try that. But let's see how it goes on The Bachelorette.

1:05:44Jackie Oshry:Jackie and I will watch the remaining as many as we can this weekend. So come back Monday for like a big recap. But let's dive into Queenie and Weenie, which I'm really excited about. Queenie and Weenie, our weekly segment. Every Friday, we like to wrap up the show with a little bit of a Queenie and Weenie where we give out two awards to people this week who acted in Queenie and Weenie like behaviors as always let's start with Queenie Jackie would you like to go first yes my Queenie

1:06:06Claudia Oshry:is something that happened to us this weekend that we didn't even talk about but I think it was like taking over the internet and we haven't even where did we address it I don't know but my Queenie is the toaster who got us foot massages at the beach yes we didn't talk about it but her TikTok went viral her TikTok went viral and we experienced it on the other end we were just like at the beach we didn't even know that this was a service but a masseuse came over and she was like I'm here to give you a massage so we were ready to book we like got our wallets yeah we were like oh cool like yeah we'd love one and she's like two hour back rub she's like i have for jackie and claudia she gave us this note like a hand we were like oh my god our husbands got us massages she was like we felt so special like someone who loves you and then she gave us this note it was from a toaster and the masseuse was telling us like that she wanted to gift us a massage and she also like wanted to come over and say hi but it didn't seem like a good time we had all the kids with us so she was gonna wait and come over later we're still like yeah tell her to come over later and she never came over and said and introduced herself she just gave us each 15 minute foot rubs.

1:06:59Claudia Oshry:And it was so amazing. It was. She is my Queenie because that was just like the highlight of my weekend.

1:07:05Jackie Oshry:I love that. I'm so glad you brought that up. My Queenie is a woman named Michelle Fox. Do you know her? You're going to love her. A New York woman dug for three weeks to find her own diamond for her engagement ring. So what would you do to find your perfect engagement ring? For Michelle Fox, a 31-year-old strategy consultant from New York City, it meant camping out for three weeks at Crater of Diamonds State Park in Arkansas with a shovel. and a mission to dig up her own diamond. Can anybody do that? I guess. She said she'd been dreaming of finding her own ethically sourced gem about two years ago.

1:07:36Jackie Oshry:But not lab grown. And she said, we're not getting engaged until I do that. That's what she told her boyfriend. They come from the ground. What's stopping us from just getting one ourselves? She's like Miles Teller's grandma. After researching, she discovered that the only active public diamond mine in the world wasn't overseas, but just a short flight away. Fox headed south after finishing grad school, staying in a tent and digging daily from 8 to 4 p.m., taking only one day off. The summer heat was brutal. She admits she was physically unprepared. There were days where I wouldn't shower for several days, she said.

1:08:03Jackie Oshry:By the time I got out, I was so tired and hurt I couldn't muster the energy to spend 10 minutes undressing and taking a shower. She says her shovel was even stolen at one point, forcing her to walk three hours round trip to the nearest hardware store. On July 29th, her final day, she went out. She couldn't Uber? She's in the middle of like this random field. She went out one last time and noticed a glimmer by her foot. I thought it was due, she said. I potted it with my hiking boot and it didn't move. It turned out to be a 2.3 carat diamond, the third largest ever discovered in the park. Creator of Diamond State Park averages one to two diamond finds per day.

1:08:35Jackie Oshry:Most are small, only about a dozen exceed one carat annually, according to the assistant park superintendent, Wayman Cox. She hasn't had her diamond appraised yet and doesn't plan to. For her, the value lies in what the stone represents.

1:08:45Claudia Oshry:Yeah, that's really great. And here, that's it. That's it, like, raw. I see. So, yeah, two carats. I was going to ask, like, what the size was. I just have, like, two questions. She's very pretty, too. Her boyfriend's name is Trevor. Why didn't she make him dig? Like that's love. Go dig me a diamond. I'm cracking up. Why is she digging her own? These women do too much. Did she propose to herself too? The women do too much. And like what's wrong with lab grown?

1:09:08Jackie Oshry:Well, I think that a huge reason why lab grown is so popular is because how diamonds are sourced is really.

1:09:14Claudia Oshry:I saw the funniest meme that was like a person with a huge diamond ring and they're like, you'll never know.

1:09:27Jackie Oshry:Oh my God. Well, part of the reason my lab is so popular is like, because there's not any, you know, nefarious origins. So I saw that movie, Blood Diamond. Oh my God. I saw that movie too. One of the worst, like a great movie. Wish I never saw it. Like stuck with you. Of course, the scene of the kid getting injected with heroin, like seriously kill me.

1:09:46Claudia Oshry:One of the worst movies. Maybe that's what she saw the movie. I was like, I will not. We're heading to Arkansas. Yeah. I'll get my own. That's a queenie right there. Yeah. But did she say why lab wasn't good enough for her?

1:09:57Jackie Oshry:Maybe she wanted natural. She didn't want the strings that come with perhaps this being a blood diamond. So she minded herself.

1:10:04Claudia Oshry:Yeah. She should have sent her Manson. That's my only critique. Do what you want. For weenie, two things. My weenie is Jordan because the way he was acting on last night's episode was complete weenie behavior. Like trying to outshine his wife. It's like, bro, no. And even if you could, who wants to do that to their wife? Yeah, right. Take away. You know what I mean? He's a real narcissist. But what was so funny is last night on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, Sutton called Amanda a weenie. You're kidding. I was like, I was listening and I was like to Zach, like, what did she say? Call her. And he was like a weenie.

1:10:34Claudia Oshry:She was like, don't be a weenie. I don't believe you. Yeah. Sutton. That's Queenie Sutton. Queenie Sutton. And I'm not going to make Amanda my weenie. No, no, no. But that's so funny. I'm so fatigued by Amanda Francis. Me too. And the conversations around her. I know you're about to drop your bombshell. But I just I wanted to know last night watching Amanda like I'm I'm very tired exhausted by it. Like the storyline has run its course. I feel bad for her. I don't know what she's doing there. I guess people online are being mean to her. I don't have anything like mean to say. And you're just I don't mind her at all.

1:11:03Claudia Oshry:I just like she it's like two separate complete separate storylines are happening. And I just like she seems tired, too. I felt that it's not a good fit. I don't think so.

1:11:13Jackie Oshry:So my weenie, a.k.a. my bombshell goes out to the person who left this note on my windshield yesterday. Many three-year-olds have trouble staying within the lines. Maybe if you practice coloring this cat, it will help you with your parking. Wow. Here. Here. So, let me tell you. Is it anyone in this room? Well, I did come in and I started asking questions. And let me tell you, you're going to love this. So, yesterday, I actually, I parked here and then I was driving around all day. I didn't park anywhere else. a few hours later. I didn't even see the note until two hours later. They put it at like the top of my windshield.

1:11:51Jackie Oshry:I don't know if they didn't want me to see it or something. And then it started raining and it started sliding down. I said, what the hell is that? And I was like, oh my God, the only place I parked today was here. Now, when I left, I did notice my wheel was on the line. I'm sorry. If you're on the line, you're fine. It was not veering. My wheel was on the line. So I'm like, is that what they were referring to? And it was parked between two cars. One car was a blue Mazda. We know that's been from the studio. the other and I remember thinking was a white Tesla no no no it was me Jackie I remember walking by this car and like actually being like it was pretty much totaled like it was the bones of a vehicle it looked like it had been through an incinerator it had no handles on any of the doors it was covered in rust the entire like left side the side that I walked by looked like it had been hit in like maybe six or seven accidents the bumper was completely half off I was like Like, how did this car even get here?

1:12:41Jackie Oshry:So I presume it was the owner of that car who left this on my windshield. And I just, I'm shocked that, first of all, I didn't know that we were, like, actual losers who walked around with cars. Because he must have had them on in person. That's the thing.

1:12:52Claudia Oshry:It's not like he wrote you a note, like, park better. Like, you placed an order. He placed an order for these cars. You carry these around. To let anyone know who's remotely outside the line. He's using them too liberally. He's going to run out. He's using them too liberally.

1:13:03Jackie Oshry:And the crazy thing is that, like, you thought about all of this. You bought the cars. You literally have so much time on your hands, but you don't have the time to get your car fixed. Like fix your car. Put a handle on.

1:13:13Claudia Oshry:All those accidents on your car, like weren't just the other person.

1:13:16Jackie Oshry:They're not an endorsement of great driving. Right. So, and I've actually never had anybody put a thing on my car. So I've never experienced what it would feel like. And I can tell you, it actually felt like very invasive. Like there's my car seat in there. Like that's my car. That's like, I felt like I'd been burglarized. Like I wasn't aware of the drama. Okay, drama.

1:13:34Claudia Oshry:I wasn't aware of like the feelings that it would feel like to have somebody touch my car. And obviously such an unhinged person. Now, let me ask you a question. Do you think that came from a man or a woman? We're saying he. I kind of think it's she.

1:13:46Jackie Oshry:No, because you want to know why? Look, it has this thing. So that means he kept them in his car. And it has like a line down the middle. So it was kept in his wallet. And only men have wallets where like you need to fold. That's true. But like only women. No, this is absolutely man. With a cat. With a comic sans. A cat is giving woman. the cat is giving weenie actually so i don't care it's a genderless non-binary i'm just wondering if we could potentially and then today when i got here cameras today that's what i asked if we had cameras we don't today when i got here i drove around the parking lot a couple of times looking for the car because it's so recognizable and i was gonna put this back i'm gonna keep it

1:14:20Claudia Oshry:actually no when you see the car again you will leave it on his car yeah of course um i drove

1:14:27Jackie Oshry:around today looking for it but i couldn't believe i got my first and let me tell you i have parked some really annoying bad ways. Actually, I'm always remarking on how the spots here are very generous.

1:14:37Claudia Oshry:Yeah, there's not really a bad way to park here.

1:14:39Jackie Oshry:I did not park badly. Like, I didn't deserve the note. And there are times when I deserve the note and I would have laughed. But I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? Get your dirty fingernails off of my car. Mind your own business. Take your car to the shop and fuck all the way off.

1:14:50Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Weenie. So what he said was, good luck trying to drive. Good job trying to drive. Yeah, and I want to say - Remember when that kid said that to me? No. When I tried to parallel park here and her mom had to come and do it for me. And get in the car for you. She got in the car for me and left me with her kids. And I was like, well, she's not going to steal my car because I have her kids. And then when it was all said and done, the kid was like to me, good job trying to drive. That's what she ate with that. Bestie. And I said, say less, bestie.

1:15:19Jackie Oshry:This concludes a very long episode. So we are going to let you guys go. Thank you so much for listening to The Toast on Land. I'm running your way to deliver the fast-paced stories you need to know.

1:15:26Claudia Oshry:And a lot of fun.

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1:15:29Claudia Oshry:When everything is a lot in the lofty, is anything in the lofty?

1:15:35Jackie Oshry:I don't know.

1:15:36Claudia Oshry:You know, if they're always a nice long one for you, then are they even long anymore? If that's standard. Are they just being?

1:15:47Jackie Oshry:Happy Friday. Have an amazing weekend, guys. And we'll see you on Monday.

1:15:50Claudia Oshry:Love you. Bye.

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