Brianna, Grace and Terri Schuester: Thursday, December 12th, 2024

12 Dec 2024 · 1 h 19 min

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Podcast Summary: The Toast - Episode with Brianna, Grace, and Terri Schuester (December 12, 2024)

Episode Overview In this episode of *The Toast*, hosts Jackie and Claudia Oshry discuss several trending topics, including celebrity engagements, podcast drama, casting news, and the reboot of a classic show. The episode features a variety of segments that touch on pop culture and personal anecdotes, with a focus on a recent engagement announcement, friendship dynamics in the podcast world, and new film projects.

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Key Topics Discussed

  1. Celebrity Engagements
  2. Selena Gomez and Benny Blanco
  3. Announced engagement after dating for over a year.
  4. The hosts speculate on the implications for "Jelena" fans (Justin Bieber and Selena Gomez's past relationship).
  1. Podcast Drama
  2. Brianna Chickenfry and Grace O'Malley
  3. Discussed the end of Brianna's podcast "Plan Bri Uncut" and the dynamics of her friendship with Grace.
  4. Brianna addressed the backlash from fans regarding her relationship with Grace and her boyfriend Zach.
  5. Grace released a statement expressing her feelings about the situation, leading to further discussions on the podcast about their friendship and the impact of social media narratives.
  1. Shawn Mendes and Love Triangle
  2. Shawn Mendes Comments on Past Relationships
  3. Seemingly addresses his past with Sabrina Carpenter and Camila Cabello.
  4. Mendes reflects on unresolved feelings and the repercussions of reconnecting with an ex, leading to speculation about the dynamics between the three.
  1. Austin Butler's Casting
  2. Austin Butler as Patrick Bateman
  3. Cast to star in Luca Guadagnino's new adaptation of *American Psycho*.
  4. Discussion on Butler's career trajectory post-*Elvis* and the expectations for his role.
  1. Friday Night Lights Reboot
  2. Reboot Announcement
  3. A new reboot of *Friday Night Lights* is in development at Peacock.
  4. The plot will follow a high school team after a hurricane, echoing themes of resilience.

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Key Takeaways

  • Engagements and Fan Reactions: The hosts highlight the mixed feelings in fandoms regarding celebrity relationships and how past associations still linger in public perception.
  • The Impact of Social Media on Friendships: The Brianna and Grace situation illustrates how easily misunderstandings can escalate in the public eye, particularly among young women in the entertainment industry.
  • Celebrity Self-Perception: Mendes' reflections on his past relationships suggest a deeper conversation about how celebrities manage their public images and personal choices.
  • Career Pathways for Actors: The conversation around Austin Butler stresses the importance of diversifying roles beyond iconic figures to avoid typecasting.
  • Nostalgia vs. New Directions: The reboot of *Friday Night Lights* evokes a sense of nostalgia while raising questions about the handling of classic narratives in modern contexts.

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Closing Remarks The episode encapsulates the hosts' humorous and insightful takes on current events, blending personal anecdotes with broader cultural discussions. The dynamic between Jackie and Claudia brings a playful yet poignant perspective on the complexities of fame, friendship, and the entertainment industry.

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Links and Resources

  • [The Toast Patreon](https://www.patreon.com/thetoast)
  • Merchandise from *Girl With No Job* and *The Toast*
  • Follow the hosts on social media:
  • Jackie Oshry: [@JackieOshry](https://twitter.com/JackieOshry)
  • Claudia Oshry: [@girlwithnojob](https://twitter.com/girlwithnojob)

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0:00Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday. Like normally Thursdays have such a great energy. She knows it. But it is our second to last regular episode of the year. And like there is sadness abound. There is sadness abound. It's very bittersweet to be saying goodbye. But for you guys, it's actually great because I really feel called to give you an amazing episode. You know, it's so true. So with the stories and just with everything that I'm bringing to the show today, I'm putting my best foot forward. Not that I ever don't, I just want to say. I don't know. Some days I don't, like if I'm being completely honest.

0:35It's hard to be like your best personality every single day. No, it's true. But I don't know. I feel like some days I'm so tired. I just have a lot going on. But I feel like whenever I'm sat in this chair, like I am putting my best foot forward. Nothing else exists. You will not know that we're going through a sleep regression unless I decide to share that. Nothing else exists besides these four walls. These four walls. It's so true. I actually didn't even talk to you about this like privately because I've been so busy. Yesterday, I spent the afternoon with Jay Shetty. I recorded his podcast. And you know, I don't know if you are familiar with his podcast, but it's literally like therapy.

1:12Yes, like inner child work. Yes, exactly. And like in my current state, like I'm just really susceptible to like crying. Yeah. Oh my God. I'm actually embarrassed at how much I cried. Like he actually asked me a question. I was like, I can't answer that without like seriously falling apart. he was like okay don't worry we'll cut it out I'm like thank you so much it wasn't even a particularly titillating question it was just can you tell us the question we're talking about grief and he was asking like losing a dog losing a parent like just that journey like the differences and he was like what's your favorite memory with your dad and I was like I can't tell you that like sorry I can't I literally can't if you want me to keep sitting in this chair and my coxedinia was acting it was not a coxedinia friendly chair my ass was hurting me the whole time crazy it's like years worth of therapy and what like never goes to therapy does it live on a podcast so I said that I don't want to spoil it was two hours long and I was just like by the way like I don't go to therapy not that I'm against it at all I'm just not a person who has trouble communicating like I actually have a lot of people in my life that I open up to about like all different parts of myself and I'm very blessed and I don't feel like stifled and he was like that's so great I'm like but like I never talk about this shit that you're talking about like I don't know where you're coming up with these questions like where do you get your confidence from and not me literally starting crying like I literally was crying the entire time I'm so embarrassed like and it was You're like Ari and Cynthia.

2:23Did you do it with Ben or alone? Alone. But Ben had driven me. He was in the car downstairs taking a call. And so I was feeling like particularly grateful to Ben for like, you know, he literally like moved his whole day around to drive me to Brooklyn. And then Jay was asking me questions about Ben. And like pretty much every time I was asked about Ben, I was hysteric. Like hysteric. Like so embarrassing. I am hysterically crying. Is that a normal thing that he says happens on his show? Well, that's like his thing. You know, everybody cries. He's an excavator. before we started i was like i'm not gonna cry he was like okay hey tears see you later literally i don't know if like i would have cried not pregnant but he was also just asking questions about like parenthood like ben as a dad like seriously it was it was so messy like i don't even ask you when it's coming out but is it weird that i would feel weird like listening jackie like i'm begging you it's not for your family jackie if you listen to it i will die like seriously do not listen to it but the whole world should but like not those closest to you I understand that like it's just I can't explain it I feel like I'm always trying to put this into words I feel like even I can't put it into words like for literally a decade I've been like trying to articulate how sometimes it's easier to share emotional things with people you don't know thousand percent then with like people who know you and are there for it might actually be going through the exact same thing there's like a weirdness in the in the intimacy it's just like it's weird that is so funny I will not be no please don't like seriously I will die if you have a question I'll answer it but like don't don't watch but everybody else should I don't think it comes out for like months though so don't get too excited it'll be a while definitely not this year um that's so funny well my episode of the good guys dropped today so that's on my watch list because I hear you guys like literally exclusively talked about me so I have to listen I actually think whoever told you that is like setting you up for Disappointment because we did talk about you a lot but like if you're listening Thinking we talked about you the whole time you're gonna be like they didn't Talk about me at all oh just so you know oh okay like literally if that's why You're listening like don't that is why I would be listening because we talked About you like a good amount but it's not in it's not the whole episode so you Would just see the glass half full oh okay and even though I don't want to like fuck with the good guys numbers listen to it next week when we're off wow ben is you're gonna get a call from ben okay wait i'm gonna get another positive call from them because today's a very exciting day because spritz society just announced their new q lab flavor this is what we were talking about last week when we said we did a collab at spritz society that was made for our sister olivia what did i say last week you tell that was not five weeks ago no but it was not last week i feel like actually it was two honestly two and a half maybe i think i'm closer than you are v8 spritz it's a bloody mary spritz it's made for our sister olivia who literally she used to chug v8 when we were like six like she was obsessed she still is but like i can't think of v8 without thinking of olivia ashray no same and that's why this is so full circle everything that we do like ties back to our childhood i think that's true just like you know life but bloody mary spritz like we needed this it's a blood it's literally it tastes just like a Bloody Mary.

5:32Keep in mind, these are a lot less carbonated than our OG spritzes. It's still like a light sparkling, but it's not as carbonated as our usual spritzes. So keep that in mind. And it's our new cans. They're huge. How many ounces? They're huge. I think our old ones were like eight or nine. So this is significantly bigger. And the packaging is so pargy. Yeah, not us working with V8 owned by Campbell's. Like we are literally so legit. It's crazy. So legit. Get them now. I feel like Bloody Marys are such a great holiday drink around the season. like you're hung over it's just a great vibe if you have people over for brunch like don't be you getting the blender out yeah use the Spritz Society VA Bloody Mary it is exclusively being sold at SpritzSociety.com while supplies last and like that's it so get them all out there hot SpritzSociety.com update in my journey of life I have as of yesterday actually found a coffee that doesn't make me hurl if you guys have been like watching my coffee drinking journey even on the podcast like some days I have a coffee I take one sip yesterday for the first time since conception I finished a full coffee would you like to know the recipe it's quite crazy is it from blank street no I just get a cup of ice from the place they hate me there I get a cup of ice and half an F and I don't pay for anything by the way blank street is owned by BlackRock they'll survive okay yeah it's a front I just want to say I'm so ready to be owned by BlackRock I feel like BlackRock buys everything I was just talking to some guy and Ben was like by the way you know about his company I'm like who he's like Black Rock are you fucking kidding me like I can't okay I need Black Rock to invest in the Mark Schoenweiler Holocaust Education Foundation but like okay so here is my coffee for a girl who doesn't like coffee but needs it and especially during pregnancy like could die from the taste of coffee of course my Starbucks jug medium iced coffee uh medium roast unsweetened immediately add two packets of Splenda Stevia I'm telling you it's a little sweeter, the Splenda Stevia, than Stevia or Splenda.

7:30I've been using Splenda Stevia. It's delicious. Two. Then, not a crazy, like a little splash, half and half. Never really had half and half before. It's delish. That's what I use at my house is half and half. That's what I use at my house. I've been using, like, I'm shocked that you use half and half. That's the most shocking thing you just said. You always are making me get, like, special creamer for you. Well, I'm not allowed to have my special creamer. Wait, like Chobani creamer. I'm having a aversion to Chobani creamer in my pregnancy. It was something I really liked before. And now like that and my way hand soap.

8:06If I never see either of them again, I will be so happy. Understood. Well, I'm on my Nespresso grind. Whenever I'm sat for the show, it's my second. You're on your hot coffee grind, which is so crazy because you live in Florida. I know. Well, the place that I used to like to get my iced coffee jugs from, they close their Floridian location. So I turned back to my Nespresso machine. That's really always there for me. yeah and we're back at it they're so caffeinated i drink two cups a day so i'm cracked out for you guys we love crack yo what do we want is my and who makes this cup i feel like reese witherspoon in sweet home alabama who makes this glass is it amazon no the ones that everybody has from amazon no it's i only have like two of them you're gonna spill be careful Villaroy and Bach, please.

8:51Oh my God, I can't with you. You're so fancy. You're literally Heather Dubrow. Amazon, Villaroy and Bach. Villaroy and Bach. So that's having coffee with my swirly this morning. Cheers. Morning. Can we try and do a cheers? Okay. That's easier. Three, one, two, one. Cheers. I'm going to the doctor today. I haven't been to the doctor in forever. And let me tell you something. So weird not going to the doctor. like I'm just supposed to believe there's a baby and I don't have a bump you know so I'm just supposed to believe there's a baby in my belly so how about bump watch like do you sense a bump at all oh yeah first of all my skin is itching me which means my skin is stretching like seriously kill me um and yes I'm puffy like I it's just not like a perfectly round bump but like there is new uh diameter you're popped it doesn't look like a conventional bump if you will um and the weird thing is that because I go to a high-risk doctor even though I'm not a high-risk god you know knock one knock one knock one um not a high-risk patient but I just love Dr.

9:54Fox I think I get seen more than the average person like I have double the amount of scans that most people do also with the cervix drama I will be getting more scans and it still feels so weird like the last time I went to the doctor was like three or four weeks ago and it's just like because I don't have a bump and I'm starting to feel a little bit better obviously like I'm like are we sure yeah no I guess I would get my period but like are we sure like how do we know for sure obviously my second pregnancy I was at the doctor there was one week where I was at the doctor every single day like I was getting so much information scans images but even my first pregnancy weirdly I had like elevated alpha fetal protein like a little bit elevated so they saw me more throughout my pregnancy I think I got images once a month and people don't you literally only get images like if you have a standard pregnancy like maybe two or three images the entire time and I don't know and so I know that people buy that machine where you can like hear baby's heartbeat um my friends when I was like talking to them about it I'm like I feel so weird like how do I know that like I'm pregnant and I'm like I think I'm getting that machine they're like don't do it first of all don't do it a lot of times it just doesn't pick up the heartbeat so you take yourself to the emergency room because of this stupid machine from Amazon Claudia say no more don't do it and then sometimes you hear your own heartbeat oh yeah so yeah but like you think it's the babies and it's not and so it's beating really fast and so like I'm not getting it but I just think it's like a weird part of pregnancy that you can't like check on the baby unless you go to the doctor or unless something feels wrong that's why you really have to listen to your body yeah it's so true I'm not good at that because like I always feel like shit you know yeah but in this case that's working in your favor if you feel like shit it's going it's going there are like a couple of things that people say to pregnant people that really piss me off no no i i wasn't saying that by the way i was just saying like but it's a good conversation sorry i'm not attacking you and that has to be one of like the top three oh i feel like shit well that's good well no i i actually was just talking to someone who said that in earnest and she was like when someone told me that it made me feel so much better like the worse you feel the more it means baby second more from you that's baby is getting I get it.

12:00And like. I get it. It's annoying to say. Also, what's annoying? Like if I'm complaining about an ailment. Just wait. Okay. No, but I don't even feel the just wait. Because yes, things get, certain things get harder. But other things go away. Right. The pain and discomfort changes. It morphs. It doesn't grow. It just, it's a different experience. Oh my God. And you know what's so funny? I actually remember when Olivia got pregnant for the first time. My mother-in-law like passed on a piece of advice to me, to Olivia from me. and I remember thinking I'm like that's kind of harsh honestly let me tell you she was so right she's like people are gonna come up to you and tell you about their experience and you need to just touch them on the shoulder and say I don't care like like when people when I I don't give a fuck like seriously I don't give the tiniest little shit of a fuck like I don't care and she was so right for that like please do not share with me like what you went through like I'm dealing with a lot and I can't take on your shit right now pregnancy is more personal than comedy more personal than food more personal than poetry so true so there's your little update from la turt bump date even though i don't have one i'm so ready for my bump like because if i steal one more seat from like an elderly person without like a proper bump i'm gonna start getting attacked like for real i also feel like when i'm crossing the street and stuff people aren't being extra careful with me because i'm not like so visibly pregnant i just look like a chubby girl and i need them to like start treating me with a little bit more tension like i got honked in the street yesterday like right up front I'm like I'm literally fucking pregnant like my baby can hear that move bitch I get out the way I'm about to like Terry Schuster this shit and put on a fake bump just so I get a little bit of like grace yeah nobody don't talk about the struggle of being pregnant without a bump like if you're like it's just a chubby girl who carries weight like her whole life I'm not gonna have a bump for like eight months I think it's a Terry Schuster situation sometimes you got a terry schuster slash brie van to camp it up slash

13:56i'm not saying it beyonce

14:01that's one of my absolute favorite conspiracy theories there's probably the first conspiracy like celebrity conspiracy theory i like i got into yeah yeah because of all the stuff that's happening with jay-z like all the theories are coming out of the woodwork so i recently like just this week saw that clip of her doing that interview where the belly the belly flipped it's you know I'm gonna shout to Dr. Fox today and ask him like if it's possible can you record his reaction even though what he will say is anything is possible everybody's different everybody is different and that is the truth and like anything it could be like a real belly but like also it could be styrofoam oh my gosh that was such a crazy time yeah and what else is going on with you I'm gonna stick with you forever I am working so hard on my project on my personal project which you guys will see next week on patreon.com slash a toast I literally like I'm up all night on my computer like my eyes are gonna just fall off from all of the scrolling that I'm doing but I'm in such a good place and I need to shout out one of our sponsors I don't know if they're a sponsor today Wayfair you've got just what I need I know I don't even know why I go to other websites to to start in earnest it always comes back to Wayfair like their delivery is insane the selection like oh this one's not deep enough I need a five more inches Wayfair's yeah it's a it's an it's a marvel we talk about Amazon a lot and Amazon is but Wayfair is in that category of doing the impossible you just checked the words right out of my mouth Wayfair is the Amazon of the furniture space their shipping is fucking crazy my nightstands are here and oh I need United States.

15:36They also have amazing customer service. They do. Oh my gosh. Remember what happened with my outdoor patio furniture? So I ordered a circular couch. You're like two years ago. When I first moved down here, I ordered a round couch for my patio and instead they accidentally sent me two armchairs from the same collection, but they were armchairs and that's not what I ordered. So they, I called them. They then got my couch on the truck and they said, and you know what? And you could keep the armchairs. It's like our gift to you. like they are the best and now I have the whole set and it's amazing I actually know that story and every time I order from Wayfair like secretly hope that they fuck up and let me keep whatever they send and then also send me what I ordered you know what else I've been leaning on a lot and I just want to thank my fellow comrades in Wayfair are the reviews like the people who post reviews with photos you are the unsung heroes of our country and I hope that Wayfair like they I'm sure they incentivize you to leave a review maybe you get a credit or something because I've never done it but I use it all the time so I've actually been noticing that a lot on Amazon so because I especially like in my maternity era my outfit right now is completely from Amazon I was gonna ask you I love your outfit it is from Amazon it is so comfortable I'll post a link an affiliate um they have tons of reviews for like popular items with photos I actually think that it's people's jobs too because they're like creating premium content with these review photos I think Amazon pays people to create reviews of their items just like in a bedroom it's like a mom of four like it's not a model it's so fucking helpful like the amount of stuff that I have with furniture too on Amazon they crush it they crush it so I'm just so thankful to the people who leave reviews so much so that I kind of like I want to give back maybe I'll give a review one day to let people know because there are certain unsung heroes like of our society like those who put back the grocery carts from the parking lot like that we don't think of every day and people who leave photo detailed reviews of furniture and clothing on Amazon and Wayfair and websites of that nature are a part of those unsung heroes they're literally what did we call them during COVID like truck drivers essential workers essential workers and I think I don't know if Wayfair does this but they should do an incentivization program where they give you a credit because those reviews certainly are helping me make purchases and not like dilly dally for too long though and even if it's not like perfect you know oh the canopy is a little short for anyone under five seven I'm like okay I'm five one yeah and that's the other thing like I feel like reviews in general online like get a better app like when it comes to restaurants and stuff like I never take it seriously because only people who had a negative experience will leave a review but I feel like now we're taking the power back of reviews like Yelp to me is such a useless platform because it's only for complainers whereas individual item reviews are so detailed and they're not really coming in with a an agenda right I feel like reviews are now for me like at a place in culture where they're helping people and for many years they weren't I agree as they should what they were meant to do you know they're doing what they were meant to do yes exactly and you love to see that so that's sort of where I've been at also I've been shopping so much Amazon they have like amazing maternity shops like the the maternity websites that you shop from like bump suit and like hatch they have shops on amazon and you get prime shipping hard you wish i just sent a bunch of stuff to your house yeah i got a pair of white i got a pair of white trousers so you bitches better watch the fuck out this season okay oh yeah no i think that's where really the only two places i had shopped from was like bump suit and hatch for maternity wear like a bump suit and then a hatch cardigan done.

19:08I don't have a bump. A bump for a bump suit yet. But I have been dipping my toe into maternity wear and I just slept in a pair of hatch maternity pajamas that have like, like it goes up to your boob, you know, like that belly band. And of course I don't have a bump, but I loved it. I used to get maternity pajamas from The Gap. Oh, I'll check that out. I'll check that out. Yeah. And then eventually I just switched to a nightgown. No waistband. Yeah. You're not doing the waistband. Oh yeah. I'm like a couple of weeks away from just sleeping in one of Ben's like t-shirts I can't keep buying stuff that too waistbands are the enemy yeah I actually took a pair of scissors to expensive pajamas to cut out the waistband only to find that it was completely sewn in and I had to like I destroyed the pants for nothing like I should have just kept them cut cut a slit I cut a slit in a couple things yeah it's just this very project runway over at my house yeah for sure what else is like just nap dresses yeah how's uh how are the stories today oh my god there are so many stories today there's like three big stories and then the rest are kind of interchangeable and some will probably get pushed till tomorrow I think fifth and final I'm gonna do a choose your own adventure 30 I love being given a choice like that to me I so exciting Especially because we're not rushed today.

20:25No deer toasters, no recap, no segments. So the stories are going to get a lot. So A-O-S. A-O-S. All of substance. A lot of stories. I kind of like what mine said more. I agree. Without further ado, here are the Fast Five stories that you need to know. And the Fast Five stories that you need to know are brought to you by Built Rewards. This is a PSA for anybody who rents. If you haven't heard of Built, you're about to thank me. Earning points on rent is now a reality when you pay your rent through Built. You don't even have to check with your landlord to start earning points that you can use towards flights, hotel stays, fitness classes, even your next rent payment.

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25:41They take themselves so seriously. They're under lock and key. But it did get leaked. Although the photo that was released wasn't the photo they ended up using, but the person. The photo was from 2016, I believe. Oh. That was confusing. I saw it too, and I thought that was like this year's cover. I was like, damn. But no, I think it was just 2016. Got it, got it. And then this morning, the cover dropped and an interview, and he's the person of the year, as he should be, as he was the person of the year. Yeah. So that's that on that. Are you ready for our first story? Actually, shocking news that I didn't learn until I opened my iPad.

26:16What? Selena Gomez and Benny Blanco are engaged after dating for over a year. Selena and Benny are engaged. She announced on Instagram Wednesday night. Forever begins now. She captioned a carousel of photos showing off her diamond ring. One picture captured her beaming while sitting on a picnic blanket, happily staring at her ring. In another, she and him are cuddled up for a sweet embrace. race I do of course wonder what this means for those last remaining Jelena stands because I feel like can they disperse now right like Jelena has never been a remote possibility right he's literally married but I feel like Selena was like kind of like not that she championed the Jelena movement but like she was still it was kind of possible because of her yeah for as long But now she's available, like Jelena's had hope.

27:05But if she becomes like a happily married woman, then it's so, not that it wasn't already disrespectful to Haley and Justin, but it would seem to care about that. It would be like so disrespectful of her. And they're her fans. So like what, you're gonna invalidate her marriage by saying she should be with Justin? Your wires are getting crossed. So I do wonder about all the people whose usernames are literally JelenaStan807, like what this means for them and their usernames. So that was my first thought, but maybe that's because I'm so toxic. That's so funny. I did not have that thought whatsoever.

27:33I was kind of surprised by this. Me too. Even though it's like, yeah, the timeline is totally fine. Yeah, in like a normal world. Like, and, you know, she's like my age, I think. So, yeah, if I had a friend that was dating someone for over a year seriously and they got engaged, like, oh, that's beautiful. And how would you feel if your father was dating someone your age? That would be different. Yeah. I don't know that I would say that's beautiful. I think I might say screw sisterhood. Yeah, I might. And I thought it was you walking through the front door. So regardless, this is a little bit surprising.

28:03I also feel like celebrities take their time with stuff. They're not like the first to get engaged. Also marriage in like California and with celebrities and all that money is just like a weird institution. I thought you meant like that they, it seems like they shared it the day that it happened. I thought you were gonna say celebrities take their time. Like with the Hailey Steinfeld, she made it a whole week. And then she said, look, we got engaged last weekend. Oh no, I just meant like, we're always shocked when they do things in a traditional timeline. Yes. So the fact that this was traditional airing on the side of Quick was surprising to me.

28:33I wasn't like on ring watch. No, but if this was your friend, you wouldn't think it was weird. Not at all. No, no, I think this is like a beautiful and healthy relationship. Yeah. I agree. Which I just want to say, that's what's surprising is a beautiful, healthy relationship in Hollywood. This isn't a relationship that I particularly like champion or really understand. It does feel like kind of random to me, but I do think that they are well suited for one another. And I think that they have potential. And it's not like Selena Gomez actually is not, she's not like always dating a million people.

29:01She's never been engaged before. She's not one of those celebrities who like kind of takes relationships and specifically like engagements for nothing, you know? She's never been engaged before where I feel a lot of her compatriots have been engaged a couple of times. So does this mean they'll actually make it down the aisle? In celebrity world, no. But I don't know, she's kind of a serious girl when it comes to relationships. So I feel like maybe. Yeah, that was gonna be my next question. Like, do you think that they will get married? This happens all the time. Just because a young Hollywood thing gets engaged does not mean she's getting married.

29:30It's a piece of jewelry. But these two feel different to me. He doesn't have a million girlfriends. She doesn't have a million boyfriends. They haven't been engaged multiple times. I don't know. I kind of feel like they might. Yeah. Do you know what popped into my head yesterday that now is coming back into my head? But it came into my head before this. So I don't want it to invalidate this. But remember when Demi Lovato was engaged to that guy? Jackie, of course. That's what I was thinking of when I said that. Like how, um, like, so like young Hollywood things that get engaged, like for jewelry.

29:57Yeah. But like, he turned out to be just like such a loser grifter. Loser. She was literally like swindled. He should be American greed. And I don't, I, I just want to say for some reason, I thought of him yesterday, not after the Selena news drop, but now I'm thinking about him again. But obviously Benny Blanco is not that. No. Sometimes celebrities like get engaged and like, who doesn't want to feel like loved and proposed to? Right. Right. The odd thing, not odd, but Benny Blanco also does have, like, a working and personal relationship with Justin Bieber. Now, I'm sorry to keep bringing them into this because I'm so toxic like that, but, like, some of the biggest hits from Justin are Benny songs.

30:35Some of the biggest hits in the world are Benny songs. From back in the day? Like, no. Okay, Benny Blanco, Justin Bieber songs. Lonely, I feel like, is their song. When did that come out? in 2020 okay I don't know at a certain point everyone works together you know earth I don't know that song and cold water cold water sounds familiar um like would I under different circumstances like Justin might be invited to Benny Blanco's wedding not his wedding to Selena Gomez but yeah interesting I think it's nice and obviously like all the celebs were commenting on her post Taylor saying I want to be the flower girl um so it seems like legit I don't know why it's just like these two exist in like a universe not of my own do you know what I mean I don't think about them a lot but I do think they might end up making it down the aisle I hope that they do I hope that they do I hope that they do um and so for now I don't know why we keep talking about it like it's like not happening because that's not like because that's just like a hollywood thing like yeah it's such a pessimistic outlook i don't know where it's coming from but this is what this is what it's all about folks love love is the thing you know ring love is a thing you know the ring is beautiful yes what shape is that diamond is that a marquee uh it's a diamond shape like it's a I'm pretty sure it's a marquee that's what it's called but it looks like a die you know like the shape of a diamond right the stone yes it's a marquee um the weird thing is that like when a like no matter everybody has their own like diamond shapes that they like but at a certain size like they're all beautiful do you know what I mean yeah oh yeah I think like I happen to think probably when I was getting engaged like marquee would have been last on my list Selena's big ass marquee I'll take it yeah no it's very very he did as they say and I hate this he did good he did good but he did do well um are you ready for our next story yeah it's also incorrect incorrect grammatically he did good he did good he did well our next story is some podcasting drama that's been bubbling for weeks that has now hit a fever pitch because Brianna Chicken Fry is back in the news BFFs is back as a drama podcast because Bri and the gang are addressing what's going on with Plan Bri her other podcast that she was doing with her best friend Grace so if you've been following like Zach and Bri and Dave and Josh and the gang like then you know this and Grace if you if you haven't like we're not speaking English I just want to say like yeah okay I'll give like a little bit of backstory for the grands So Brianna Chicken Fry got signed to Barstool a couple of years ago.

33:31And she brought with her a podcast that she had started in her college dorm room called Plan Bree. It's obviously a play on Plan B. And her name Bree. And Brianna. The podcast was doing well. It was a bunch of different. I wouldn't categorize it as one particular thing. It was just like a show by her and her interests. And at some point when she started to do really well at Barstool, she started to do BFF. she was becoming more well-known she brought her friend brie from home this is i'm excuse me grace this is her best friend from childhood friends since they were 10 she asked if she wanted to a move to new york with her and b like try to get her a job at barstool they would like bring her into the office bring her on plan brie and it actually i i remember watching it happen very organically like she would come on one at a time and then people in the office started to like her and asked her to come on this podcast and she ended up getting a job like a salaried job at Barstool through Brianna and ended up being like the full-time co-host of the Plan Brie show.

34:28The Plan Brie had went through like a bunch of different iterations, but then it ended up being like a swirly show with two best friend swirlies. And the internet, like Grace very quickly gained an audience of her own. She's super different from Brianna. She's very self-deprecating. Her goal has always been comedy. She loves, you know, standup. And so they're actually quite different, but their best friends have always really complimented each other. And then when Brianna started dating Zach there was clearly like a separation between the two now anyone who gets into a serious relationship like you are gonna change your relationship with your best friend but now of course knowing what we know and what abusers do he was clearly trying to isolate Brianna so her not being spotted around with Grace like she used to be and they were like you know typical young 20 best friends sleepovers all the time to then nothing people started to to be suspicious.

35:19Not nothing because they were still doing their podcast together and I remember doing it but like Grace moved to New York and like literally Brianna left New York and she was doing it remotely and she was building a studio in Massachusetts like the the space between them was widening. Yes it was widening I feel like we talked about it on the show because there was conversations like on the internet maybe a year ago at this point about how like Brianna like left her friend Grace because she got a boyfriend and we were just saying like that's kind of what happens sometimes in in serious relationships so there have been like conversations about their friendship on the internet for a while for a long time and the general consensus and when Brianna started dating Zach like the internet just like hated her and so really people took up for Grace and Grace is like not of you know she's never been can't Grace doesn't have any drama doesn't there's no no reason for somebody on the internet not to like Grace right she's never done anything whereas Brianna like because you're an internet personality of a bigger size and you've been doing it for longer you have scandals you have cancellations so people have reasons that they think that they should hate you right so when Brianna started dating Zach she automatically got this like huge target on her back people hated her for a million different things mostly because they were jealous but then when it came to the Grace stuff like the the fans of the show like really took Grace's side because it appeared as though like Brianna you know got a boyfriend and never talked to her best friend again she thinks she's too good for the podcast she's moving out of New York she thinks she's too good for Grace and she's leaving Grace behind and when the the news came out about Brie and Zach I think everybody was like okay well this is obviously way more complex than we thought and maybe the Brianna Grace thing is like not really what we thought it was and and they weren't sharing a lot of their friendship because Grace couldn't really share what her friend was going through so like people were like okay we've had we actually have it all wrong yeah and it wasn't like Brianna coming between their friendship it was really like Zach and now that he's gone they'll come back together because he was keeping sense except that plan breathe the podcast hasn't returned since October so people were like well no I think there is something going on between those two and for as long as people have thought there's something going on between them they both have individually maintained mostly Brianna like when asked like it's all good yeah and Grace hadn't said anything we even were talking about a few weeks ago how like there was rumors that people thought maybe she signed the NDA and took money to not share the video from what had happened um but not good not bad she didn't say anything in all this time that Brianna has been the headline story her best friend she wasn't speaking on the situation so we're like I thought that was maybe like out of respect sort of thing it's like what can you say and it's not it's Brianna's telling her story then Grace we literally said that it's not about Grace right now it's about Brianna after Brianna had shared her story then like grace would come in supplementally share hers that's not what happened so then last week i guess when spotify wrapped came out brianna shared that like somebody tagged her in like plan brie was my number one show of the year and she was like oh you know i'm really trying to figure out a way to get plan brie back to bring it back in in some capacity yes and i guess that set grace off and for the first time ever grace has spoken out she released a three slide slide statement I'm basically saying that like they have known for a while that the show was ending and for the last couple of months they've been working out on a way to tell people whether that's a video together a statement they haven't been able to like fully come to agreement on how they want to announce it but Grace felt like Brianna posting that Spotify wrapped thing was like the biggest slap in the face like blindsided her and she was like well now I'm speaking my truth and she released that three-slide statement being like yeah the show's not coming back we've known for a while and I had no idea that Brianna was like working on bringing it back without me right and And also while also being like I've never posted a statement like this.

38:58I never want to post a statement like this. Like it kills me that I'm even writing something like this. I feel so awkward. Like very much like couching everything by like being like not like this was her last resort that she had to post. She was pushed to this point. Right. So she posted that. And it's like so right now we're thinking like oh they decided not to do plan Brie. But Brianna is going to bring it back without Grace. Like right. Stab in the back. so then finally they did a whole bffs pod about it yesterday i watched it where this morning they did like 15 minutes at the end of the episode dave literally was like just say what you have to say brianna got really emotional and she had a couple of key points but she overall said that there has definitely been a fracture in their relationship like for as long as people have assumed and for brianna and you know it's hard for me to only hear one side of someone's story because i always take that person's side like you've given me no other yeah so and i really do believe Brianna and people hated Brianna's response they think she's the devil they think her ego's out of control it's it's uh Grace's statement the fans already had been on Grace's side yeah Grace's three slides statement incentivized them even more and then when Brianna releases episode like people are not buying anything she's saying but I do think she raised a couple of valid points agreed the first was reminding people that plan Bri was started by her in her college dorm and if the show worked out with grace great if it didn't like it is her show to continue on without like a lot of people are comparing it to call her daddy right they started it together totally different this is a show that existed before grace and so she reminded people of that and i think that like people didn't like her saying that but it is an important fact but also what she said was when she said we're bringing it back in some capacity she was going to bring on new hosts and and so that the fans could still have like a plan b which was very much like a college show like she was gonna like reboot it with new people she wasn't like doing it now alone without grace and kicking grace to the curb so great grace kind of like jumped the gun on thinking that um but then brie also said but if i wanted to be on it like i can do that it was my show right so i think a lot of people heard their takeaway from brianna's interview was like she sounded really egotistical but because saying that like it's my show well you know what it is and that's an important fact and i think another thing she said that really rubbed people the wrong way was that like listen I brought Grace into all this like I was on the up and up I was having this I wanted to work at Barstool I wanted to work in media I started this podcast I started to take off and I brought Grace into it I let her stay with me like I got her the job I've been so such a champion of her so people think that like because Grace's you know career started to take off and like Brianna couldn't handle it no that was actually by design and so people think she like sounded like a bitch on the podcast she didn't say like I invented Grace but she said like how you guys can think that is so crazy I have seen in her what you all see in her since we're kids and like I brought her like do you know how hard it is to get recognized in media and like to bring on your best friend on the up she wasn't even at a level yet where she could just like you know do favors for her friends she brought her friend in at the ground level and people did not like the way that she sounded but I totally understood what she said she was like you guys think I'm this sort of like devilish jealous monster but like it was it was me I brought her in like I agree with you guys she's a star that's how people heard it but no what she was saying was you I couldn't be jealous of her success this is what I wanted for her from the beginning and here and just like she's telling these anecdotes to prove how she did or tried to do that for her yes the the biggest thing she said that people had the biggest issue with too because i was reading the comments and everyone hated everything she said the biggest thing was that like the internet has played such a big part in their friendship and the pitting of two women against each other like it actually created division between them because how brianna feels is that Grace just sort of like let the internet take her side, prop her up, beat down Brianna without ever like speaking out and defending her.

42:44That was her biggest gripe with Grace is that when people started to pit them against one another, Grace never said stop. Grace never said, guys, Brianna's a good friend. Like, and she just sort of let people pile on Brianna, especially when Brianna was going through that abusive relationship with Zach, which Grace knew about. So Brianna feels like she knew what I was going through. The internet was hating me partially because of Zach, partially because of her, and she didn't like nothing to stop it. And people were like shocked that she said that out loud, like that it was so shallow. Like your friendship since your best friends has to do with the internet.

43:13And it's really easy for people to like think it's so stupid. Like, oh, shouldn't defend me on the internet? Like it sounds trivial. Although when you are going through it, like somebody standing up for you means a lot and it can make a difference in the reception, the perception of you. The person who's good in their eyes. I didn't think it was trivial at all. I mean, it's easy for us to put ourself in their shoes because we do a podcast together. So immediately I was like, if there was this narrative about me for like a year that I was this bad person that we I was a bad friend like and it was affecting some people might might not hit the level where it registers that you need to address it but you could tell it was affecting me like in two seconds you would be like leave her alone that's and especially when they were doing it in service of you right to prop me up right like you're like it's not even like it's someone else who who wouldn't defend you but it's like they're pitting us against each other and you're my best friend and like you have the power in their eyes to shine your light on me and that you wouldn't do that not once and you see how much it's affecting me you also see that I'm just like I'm not going through things personally well right like the and that and that she even had to like I think she said that she asked Grace to like say something and that Grace never did like I understand I was able to like understand and be like oh that would that's upsetting now it's easy for me to have this POV because I haven't heard from Grace and the only thing I've heard was that statement which I felt like was jumping the gun a little bit um I would love to hear from grace like what her pov is because i didn't think brianna said anything that crazy even though people are gonna this is gonna be like a hot take people think everyone's team grace um and i'm not team anyone i heard from brianna and i thought what she said was compelling and i understood it i would love to hear from grace because maybe her her version of events is compelling and truthful and i would find it you know uh truthful as well so i think when grace and there's a lot of history there but then when grace saw that statement like we're bringing plan Brie back when like she's been on just the side of like Pran Brie is over how are we gonna announce it and then it looks like Brie's doing all these things behind your back like that would be the time to call to text her but there weren't really speaking and I think she just like saw red and was like oh I have to after everything that's happened how she left me like I need to say like I think she and you guys don't understand her releasing a statement was so crazy she like never speaks out never speaks out I think she like just jumped the gun like I just assumed a misintent that like wasn't there and that's what has made all of this explode was that statement and I think you know in hindsight her releasing this statement like wasn't the right thing to do and even Josh and Dave who love Grace and work with her and like our friends with both of them were like that wasn't the right thing to do especially when you're like especially because they haven't handled their relationship issues privately at all so if the first time she's like grace is sort of going to speak up for herself for it to be public when these are people who have been best friends since they're literal like in elementary school I think it was kind of the nail in the coffin it's so sad to see these two like not be friends anymore like I don't know if I was like doing my water line but like when and I was saying this on the podcast a few weeks ago how I got choked up how I was looking at grace and breeze instagram a few weeks ago when I was just like in this drama and like thinking about how zach bryan came between their like 20 year friendship like like seriously like was making me so emotional and then I was listening again to it today and like it it makes me so sad and I think if we heard from Grace what she would really say is how she felt in that moment when she posted the statement like how she just felt like completely left behind this that this that and like what led her to post the statement even though maybe overall it wasn't the right decision like I think the way she felt in that moment like nothing could it's relatable nothing could have stopped her yeah right if she could if she could identify that maybe she would stand by the statement now I don't know um it is so sad and I think one of the cool things that like at the time people liked and now people just like hate Brianna for everything she does so like it's but the fact that she like you know had this opportunity and decided to take her best friend with her like a lot of people wouldn't do and it has worked out so well for for Grace not only is her barstool career popping off everybody loves her she does all the shows and she has tons of followers but her TikTok career really took off her comedy career took off a lot of people know she's on a national tour right now opening for Whitney Cummings she's like one of the biggest female comedians so that's kind of what Brianna was saying and and people thought it sounded like so pick me and like I did it but like look at the opportunity she gave Grace created all of this now Grace is talented and if she wasn't she wouldn't have gotten all this but some your best friend giving you a leg up like yeah that counts for something and that's someone who loves you and supports you so the fact that they were that type of close because not a lot of bitches would take their best friend with them it had to be a special type of friend like the fact that they were that close and their families are close like a sisterhood oh my god it's this is actually the saddest thing and that's why it's not call her daddy like alex and sofia were friends for like two three years they met in an uber pool like today yeah that's what i that's so funny i think so i think no that sounds right like they were so crazy back then like that's shit that they would do right something like that there was like a third person too who like put them together um these are girls who are friends since they were 10 like even in the stories that are written about it like they have all these photos of them like going to prom together like it's a sisterhood and like that's really really sad so I think a good example of why they they stopped the show and it was Brianna's idea to stop doing the show because we had talked about this remember the Menendez brothers thing yes so like that was the month where like people were just so fucking done with brianna and brianna told a story of her and grace going to atlantic city when they were like 15 and they ended up like giving like hand jobs to like these 60 year old guys or something they didn't say that exactly they didn't say exactly like what happened between the men and the girls but that like it was a situation where they were taken advantage of oh i'm sorry maybe not me just making up hand jobs i don't know maybe you didn't but i watched the whole clip and i I don't remember a handjob, but maybe I'm misremembering.

49:04So they were telling the story, honestly, as like a cautionary tale, but also like how they just used to be so crazy. Like, and now they look back as grown women. Grace was doing her show in Atlantic City. And so Brianna's like, I hope it's different for you this time. Girls out there, like if someone is, an older man comes, like kind of like, you know, saying a hypothetical cautionary tale that like clearly happened to Grace and then also to Brie. So the internet perceives it as a story that only happened to Grace and that Brianna was like victim blaming her. And like that was like as big as the Menendez in their like podcast community.

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49:37They were like, she told a story that Grace was not comfortable with and then victim blamed Grace in the story of her trauma as a kid. And I think that one, it's a story that happened to both of them too. Grace was okay with it being kept in the podcast or else she would have asked for it to be taken out. Like things are prerecorded. And that was like another thing that like the internet descended on Brianna for. And Grace could have just said, no no guys like it's fine first of all and it's true and it happened to both of us but she didn't and so they were just getting into a pattern where they would record an episode and like try and Brianna would try to like not say anything crazy but people were just like hating her and loving grace and that's such a toxic dynamic especially when you're trying to be funny and interesting and insightful um so it makes sense why Brianna wanted to stop doing it that type of way because that's not a that's not a way to live no and she said the comments would just become a forum for bullying me and like why am I putting myself out there just to get hated nobody wants to do that and she has other things that she could be doing I would love like I kind of need in a biblical sense to hear from grace I think that we will hear from grace in what format grace is welcome on the toast grace is welcome I think she's a toaster I think she is too and like she's a swirly and that's the thing it's like I hate when people like take credit for other people's success right because like you can give someone a leg up but if they're like unfunny it happens with the Nepo babies all the time right like how many unsuccessful Nepo babies are there like you need to have the star quality and people love Grace for a reason like she's so relatable she's so real she's very funny and I don't feel like Brianna was taking credit for it I think Brianna was just trying to paint a picture of herself I think she feels very misunderstood yeah being like you guys think I'm like this jealous evil like spiteful Grace no no not I invented Grace but like I love Grace just as much as you guys I see in her what you do like I and I wanted this for her and I did everything I could to help her get where she is and it's hard to like did when you're back but Grace also did it herself but it wouldn't have happened without that push from Brianna yeah everyone has somewhere that they got their start someone who gave them a little something along the way Steve Harvey Steve Harvey is your Brianna chicken cry Steve Harvey is my

51:50but it's also like you can't win when you're backed into a corner a picture is painted of you of being like a jealous person and then so in in order to say like no I'm not jealous I I wanted this for her and I helped her then it's like you're making about yourself because you're you can't win and that's why at a certain point you have to like just make peace with people misunderstanding you you know who you are know thyself but it is a very hard harsh world yeah because I had a thought and I actually thought about like maybe even dm 'ing it to Brianna chicken fried like nobody wants to hear like because I know she knows this but one of my takeaways from the episode was she puts a lot of stock and a lot of inventory in what the internet thinks about her and it's so hard not to and I'm sure she's working on it but and by the way I because I'm now like interested in this story it's all over my TikTok and there's a million like mean bitchy ass drama channels like and they hate Brianna so I've never had that level of of interest in a negative way so I I speak humbly but she needs to for her own health like she needs to let go yeah it's so hard it's so hard I don't know how to do it but she needs to actively I'm sure she is but I hope she's actively working on that because you put so much stock in what other people think about you it's such a losing game especially at the level that you're at with the internet that if you're happy with yourself that's literally all that matters and you're the people around you your family your co-workers if everybody around you speaks well of you like that's what matters yeah I think that will come it takes time and age and that's also what's hard for them is they're at this like such a delicate age where like you're learning who you are about yourself and the internet's also telling you who you are and you're like wait I don't think that's who I am but like and you just start to question yourself and I think over time that she'll like harden and be able to tune that out but it's something that you really have to learn the hard way and everyone could tell you you know it doesn't matter don't listen to the haters but like you have to learn the hard way that's the other thing you have to remember these girls are 25 like when you were 25 and you had a fight with your friend like you probably didn't handle the whole thing perfectly like yeah but it's not it's not at the level that this is and it's not you know scaled but so it's so important to keep that in mind it is very important to keep that in mind and I think in time like she will emerge from this and like you know be able to tune out the noise but also when you're a public figure and more so an influencer creator like your job is currying favor with the public and being liked and like when it feels like you have all this and it's like wait do I even have a job if everybody hates me like you do also have to like listen to it just a tiny bit just to make sure like that you have enough to pay your bills right so it's a very very hard line to walk I do feel like it's beyond this point but I really hope these two work it out like and I don't think that like once you take it public like it's over but it's the beginning and I just I think they could work it out right now in time if nothing more happens and just like say grace shares how she was feeling in that moment i think that they could forgive each other for this incident into build back and i think that they could work it out if nothing worse happens because i remember when we were doing the call her daddy things we were like the whole time we're like get back together we were imploring them to get back together like from a business pob because like it was so valuable we knew what it was for this like for your soul yeah i think if nothing for business the podcast wasn't ever like huge like it was a successful bar so but it wasn't like you call her daddy for their souls for like they need each other i am imploring them to work it out i think if nothing worse happens and this is like the worst it got we can come back we can come back we can come back a thousand percent great we'll see what happens yeah are you ready for our next story our third story yeah actually one of our favorite pop culture tropes sean mendez is seemingly addressing the sabrina carpenter Camila Cabello love triangle for the first time and honestly like and by seeming what I I didn't know if that he had never spoken about it but also like I kind of don't need to hear from him on this like no but I need he's not the sharpest tool like I just I need to hear from Brina and like I'm interested from Camila but like Shawn Mendes like I actually don't care the information that he's sharing like does just you know tell paint help paint the picture that Sabrina was talking about because I feel like we did hear about Sabrina because low-key short and sweet is like a Shawn Mendes slam album.

56:03Slander, yeah. In a preview for Thursday's episode of John Mayer's SiriusXM show called How's Life, Shawn Mendes says that while he was, quote, dating someone, he reunited with an ex-girlfriend due to some unresolved feelings. He says - Okay, by the way, not him actually validating Briner. Yeah, he said, two days before going to hang with my ex, I express I'm going to hang with my ex because I have some unresolved feelings. In hindsight, he says that maybe instead of two days, he should have told her two weeks ahead of time. Not the right lesson. um a hundred percent uh he should not be going to see an ex period and if you have unresolved feelings like work them out within yourself there's nothing that your ex can say or do that's gonna like make it better or worse facts um john then asked sean is there something in all of this that you could say yeah i played that wrong he reacts by saying the biggest lesson he learned in life is no one gets out of this life without getting hurt and no one gets out of this life without hurting someone yawn no i just know if me and sean mennes went to high school together we would hate each other like he's so lame like so this you know does hark back to the time he was spent you know valentine's day with sabrina palm springs and then a few months later he's kissing camilla at coachella so and what's the line in her in her album um

57:22that's that day made sure that the phone was phased down seems like overnight night I'm just a bitch you hate now devastating devastating for the brain I cannot believe all those songs are about Shawn Mendes it's actually the craziest thing and I can't believe you didn't like know that upon once I heard sharpest tool I'm like oh that's so Shawn Mendes and then I listened to the rest of the album most of it except for like bed chem which is clearly Barry Kogan like a lot of the like the love triangle things I'm like oh it's totally Shawn Mendes yeah and this is just like that this happened this exact way like by the way Briner is a truth teller not that we ever thought she wasn't and that he had to like see his ex to deal with unresolved feelings and winds up falling back in love with her like yeah short and sweet dropping soon they had been broken up for so long him and Camilla like where were the unresolved feelings when you were single yeah I'm sorry like I just don't like that period no but I do find the Shawn Mendes John Mayer friendship to be so interesting because I feel like they wait and then John Mayer and brainer oh that yeah but i also think that like john uh sean mendez and his team like definitely try to position him as like a young john mayer and i feel like john mayer has kind of given his blessing to sean mendez to do that although do you feel like sean mendez has kind of fallen off a little bit like when it comes to popular music and just popularity 100 but i think it's sean's choice intentional i agree i think he does not like being famous choice choice it's a sean it's shawnee's choice i love that like i think it got too much for him i think he took a step back for his mental health i think whenever he wants to be more successful like he can turn it up or down the fans are waiting for him he's very talented and so i think this is like an addison situation yeah i agree i think he like fell off by his own by design um but it did remind me something an interesting conversation we had yesterday about like renee rap and celebrities who leave like popular things while to pursue other projects a lot of people in the comments had some great comparisons to people who left you know very popular shows I didn't realize because I'm not into the office lore but Steve Carell left the office like at its peak they say it was her despicable me but I think also like he was over the role and that did not affect him whatsoever and he went on to flourish and maybe he wouldn't have if he was still like doing tv all the time and a lot of people in the Renee Rapp analysis who people agreed with me they had this thought also a lot of people blamed Mean Girls the musical movie um because I did forget that in between all of this she went on a big press tour for this huge movie that was horrible and flopped and I think that um that put a dent in her momentum as well I forgot about that because I never saw the movie yeah but also like in the industry it's like oh we thought Renee Rapp like you're gonna get people to theaters plus it's Mean Girls it's musical like this should have been a slam dunk you should have been a band-aid for the whole thing and when that doesn't happen it's like oh you don't have that selling power like it would have elevated her that was the thing and it didn't go that way so then it decreases your stock I think the stock was decreased and that is a very good oh she finished her coffee that is your coffee I think that's a really fair analysis and that feels right that does feel like what happened yeah it does also don't forget the lyric in taste back to the story heard your back together and if that's true you'll just have to taste me when he's kissing you which like yeah that explains and then also the music video with jenna ortega who's so camilla cabello coded and it was so clearly it was a duh no but what's the other line that like people really didn't like but i thought it was like from taste you drove from la straight to her thighs like she's fucking funny i'm sorry which song is that it is is that found god at your ex's house i think so

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1:06:57Austin Butler will star as Patrick Bateman in a new take on American Psycho. So Austin Butler's got the role to star in Luca Guadagnino's new interpretation of the book. Vinny's cousin? I was thinking the same thing. New interpretation of the book American Psycho. While there had been rumors that Jacob Elordi was being eyed to play Patrick Bateman, that casting didn't come to pass. Oh, you just know those two hate each other. They date the same girls. They both played Elvis. they look for the same roles like they can't get away from each other it's true maybe one day like austin will play jacob in a movie it's literally so weird how they can't get away from each other austin butler has not done like a major movie since elvis and i just want to say i'm like really not looking forward to like him being back on the press circuit like with a knife oh yeah now he's just like he's just gonna be so crazy and i like kind of hated it like elvis the movie was amazing and so i'm not knocking his talent i'm actually knocking him as a person in a worse sense like personally um he seems insufferable and i don't want to see it every news story like austin butler shows up to your house with a bloody knife like fuck off i know but i am happy for kaya gerber because i feel like austin butler was getting to a place of like he lays around the house what is he gonna do next can he do anything next like he was supposed to be the next elvis and now he's just like unemployed sitting on the couch.

1:08:18I kind of have a hot take. Okay, this is good. Like, it's a good role. Obviously, it's the job a million girls wanted. What's his name? Jacob Elordi, like, wanted it. So this is like a good role, obviously. But I do think after this, he needs to play someone who, like, he's not imitating because he's kind of becoming like a clown, like where you just show up and impersonate like a thing. Like a professional clown. He's becoming like an impersonator. An impersonator. like literally he needs to move to Vegas yeah so he needs to after this because this is I think like a big it's obviously like a good role but I don't want him to be put in a box where it's like where he only comes out to like play someone who's dead yeah yeah he needs to like at this point he's just copying to invent yeah so because obviously he's an impressive actor but if you're only just copying what other people have already done like you're just sort of a xerox machine you're not an actor do you know it's true this movie does have the makings to be like you know a big thing the director guadagnino he did call me by your name challengers so it should be of that elk oh oh okay of that elk that elk is not of the elvis elk like no that was more commercial and this is more like artistic but also like commercial and he austin butler has got a face for commercials Like I think people will come out to see this.

1:09:39Plus it has the original fans who never want to see their favorite movie redone. So they'll be skipping it. They'll riot. Um, I think it's, I think it's what, you know, he needs to do something next and this is a good idea. He definitely like took a long break. I'm sure Kaya Gerber is like, what if you went for an audition today? Maybe a walk around the neighborhood. I think he like lays at home all day. Yeah. And ever since you were the one who like told me, I don't know if you had proof of this, but just the vibe that like he's a social climber and like follows Kaya around to like her fancy like parents parties and like I see it a hundred percent I don't know how she's still with it was like hey Kaya what are we doing this weekend yeah yeah I and they're another couple like how long are you gonna be engaged I took engagements in Hollywood like they're so they're engaged right no they are yeah no Kaya Gerber engaged I don't think so because she's also younger she's 23 she doesn't like she could be dating for a few years before like Selena is 32 33 oh okay I'm sorry they're not I just I just made no oh my god I'm honestly glad she still has time to run to run yeah I actually don't like him for her and I'm clowning on him a lot but like I actually like him the Carrie Diaries is great I'm just he's fun to make fun of ever since that Elvis thing um but I don't like him for her yeah I thought it was a cute moment especially when he was having a moment with Elvis but I think my my actual disdain for him comes from the Vanessa of Hudgens of it all like I think that was like so disgusting like I think he's like the lowest of the low from that and I think Kaya is like if in my dreams like slowly realizing like the man she she fell in love with you know what I mean yeah and he's like older he's very attractive she fell in love with him at his peak but the thing about him is like you thought when Elvis came out like Austin Butler's the next movie star it's been a quiet on the Austin front and now it's like okay he never got back to work when American Psycho comes out like Austin Butler is the next movie star he's like he probably has a dark word of like glenn powell where he's just like throwing that should be me that's the difference he takes himself so seriously he would never do a top gun because it's considered like lowbrow commercial he would never do twisters but glenn powell is over here understanding how america works and like the movies that americans watch and like he's on his way to becoming the next tom cruise you don't have to only do artsy films to be taken seriously as an actor yeah i just feel like he keeps waiting for his big break he keeps getting it and then it just like it didn't break yeah you're talking about austin no glenn is well on his way.

1:12:02Glenn is a working actor. You have to work. Between movies, I don't think he's on the couch with a bag of chips. No, definitely not, but Austin 1000 % is. And then when he gets the role, he becomes toxically involved in undoing all those chips. And he acts like he's the first person to have a job. Right? He's like, babe, I can't. I'm seriously studying my papers. Or whatever actors do. I don't know. I have to read scripts tonight, babe. And it's like, girl, we've all been reading scripts for years. You just got here. No, that's so the vibe. It's giving unemployed. Based on nothing, I'm telling you that's what's going on.

1:12:36One thousand words on. Our fifth and final stories is to choose your adventure for Turdy. Would you rather hear reboot news or live action remake news? Is there a third option? Sure, I could pull up a third option. No, I would rather hear reboot. No, excuse me. I actually think the other one. The reboot news would be like more pertinent to you. Okay. Which is that Friday night. I'm also just checking page six. Make sure you know no breaking news. Friday Night Lights reboot is in the works. 13 years after the hit shows finale aired. Oh, that's something. Friday Night Lights reboot is in the works at Peacock with Universal Television.

1:13:19So executive producer and showrunner Jason Cadams and then writers Peter Berg, who directed the 2004 film. So don't forget. It was a movie first and then the TV show and now will be a show on Peacock. Following a devastating hurricane, a ragtag high school team and their damaged interim coach make an unlikely bid for a Texas high school state championship. Oh, it sounds like the Mighty Ducks, the stupid movie I just watched. Becoming a beacon of light for their town. Okay, I mean, what we need in this world is more shows like Friday Night Lights. And knowing that the Friday Night Lights TV show that I loved actually was a reboot makes me, I think you said live action remake.

1:13:54That was the second choice. Oh, so you went with the reboot story. Oh, okay. because I felt like the subject matter was more turdy in interest do they have anyone from the original show like tapped no because in in in in real you know East Dillon you know Jason Street would have lived in town and become the coach maybe that this is all this seems like very early stages like they probably just got the right and Scott Porter is still working like he was available he would be amazing and then I mean as far as who would play the high schoolers like i think we need fresh faces i think we're ready like this could be the next what friday night light was however like i just want to let you guys know it won't be and like no of course not they're gonna ruin the show and the legacy is gonna come out and like nothing will change like well i know but they really do have an opportunity they just need your now that i'm thinking about it they just need scott porter because the whole show like the heart and soul was kyle chandler like and how he loved them kids ain't it good to be the coach and Scott Porter like was that as Jason Street and he totally could be that as like Mr.

1:15:01Street Coach Street and then a fresh cast fresh faces people from all different walks of life and they're not gonna do it and if they are it's gonna be like a woke high school where like everybody's fighting over their pronouns and stuff but like they should just do a regular ass reboot they should I'm just saying like even if they are gonna reboot it I I feel like this happens all the time. Like it will not make, it's going to come and go. We're going to forget that. We're never going to watch this just because that's how things go. Now. I hope that it's the next big, it's the next Friday night lights.

1:15:34I just know that it won't. But we'll always have the original show. And I actually rewatched it like somewhat recently. I'm definitely due for a rewatch, but the first time I ever watched that I watched it. Do you remember when portable DVD players were like the most important thing in our lives? Like I can, I watched Friday night lights. in like the summer of 2000 and waitresses 09 I was yeah in 09 on a portable dvd player with the dvds like somebody had it in a cd case where like we would all pass around the different and I actually don't know if I've ever been happier in my life like being at camp watching that show like it just like that's that's the best time of my life yes because I loved camp like I didn't watch the show when it was on but I think like about six years ago when like Zach and I were dating we we watched the show together and it was so so good and I actually watched it at the same time that spoiler alert for the show Nashville okay I watched it the same time that they killed Raina James on Nashville and I never had to mourn her because I just went back I just switched the input on my tv and watch Friday Night Lights and there she was and I really feel like I usurped the grief.

1:16:44Friday Night Lights was actually also like a breeding ground of talent development. Connie Britton, Jesse Plemons, Minka Kelly, so many stars. Kyle Chandler, of course. So many stars came from that show. Was she on that show? Or was it Montreel? No, I think she was. She was on Montreel, you're right. No, honestly, I feel like we've done this before. I feel like she was on both. I actually don't think she was. Donna Kramer, Friday Night Lights character. She played Noelle Davenport. in the following episodes. Okay, three. So it's actually just a fluke that she was on it. You don't really remember her.

1:17:20It's so true. It's just a happy coincidence. Yeah, no. Oh, who's? Oh, that's Minka. And just Lila Garrity. Like, it's the perfect show. Yeah, maybe she'll be in it. Remember when we were saying, like, Desperate Housewives and what are the, like, the perfect television shows? What was the other one we were saying? did we say that i think i did friday night lights is on that list too yeah i don't i don't remember like the late seasons ever really ruining it like i think it ended no it didn't go on forever it actually ended early and like it ended on its own it ended with dignity i think it was six seasons good times oh i mean i can't believe i have talked about this whole thing without talking about my boyfriend tyler kitch oh my gosh waco he is he's the show he's the show Texas forever so there's something to look forward to potential and I'll just give you guys a teaser of what could have been it's a tangled live action remake oh you know what I actually heard about that and I'm curious to see who they cast as Rapunzel yeah hopefully like a big star-studded affair and it's being wow Nalafi today Nalafi and it's being directed by the director of Greatest Showman which huge for the community.

1:18:36So that I actually, if I had to place a bet on what would be more successful, I'm going Tangled live action remake. Okay. I'm starting to realize why yesterday I had to run off the show to poop and today I also do because of the coffee. The coffee and the, it's the coffee. Coffees plus Nalafi equals bad news. Duty emoji. You guys, thank you so much for listening to the Toast on Monday morning show where we deliver the Fast Five stories you need to know every Monday, Friday and YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and visit our thumbs up. All available is podcast and where podcasts can be found.

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Selena Gomez and Benny Blanco are engaged after dating for over a year (Page Six) (27:17)

Brianna Chickenfry Discusses Friendship With Grace O'Malley and End of Plan Bri Uncut on BFFs (33:00)

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