But They're Not Filming: Wednesday, April 8th, 2026

8:36Claudia Oshry:And so they certainly chose an interesting bunch.

8:41Jackie Oshry:My overall take is that I heard a lot of really good things about it. I haven't watched a second episode yet and I didn't think it was like that amazing, but it's good. And I think that there's, they're there. I think that women have like a lot of interesting backstory and they all really know each other, which is great. Except for Ashley. She doesn't know anyone. That's one. Two, I do feel like it's kind of a replacement for New Jersey. I can't see a world in which Bravo needs both of them. When I thought of Rhode Island, I did not think, maybe I know nothing about Rhode Island clearly, because I think of it as, I don't even know what I thought of it.

9:10Claudia Oshry:You think of it as like Newport, the Breakers, the Vanderbilt. Yes, yes, very posh. Like, you know, field trip.

9:16Jackie Oshry:The show was reminding me a lot of the five minutes I watched of Members Only Palm Beach. That's not a good endorsement. So I don't feel, especially then Dolores was on the episode.

9:27Claudia Oshry:Well, because her twin is on the show.

9:28Jackie Oshry:Her twin. I don't know. And they're not related.

9:31Claudia Oshry:Or Alicia. They're not related, but Alicia's related to her husband. Oh, yeah, that was funny. But not Dolores.

9:39Jackie Oshry:Yeah. I don't think, I think, like, time will tell. One of these franchises is going to shake out. Like, they're really, it's so similar. You know, like, the big extensions. Very, like, sort of, like, sparkly, tacky kind of taste, you know. There's not a lot of money, which, you know, I guess, like, Real Housewives has left that.

9:59Claudia Oshry:nice homes i saw like a couple castle looking establishments there were two nice homes and one

10:04Jackie Oshry:of them is the girlfriend who her boyfriend doesn't she's on a rail kicked out yeah and then the other girl yeah lives on the water she was barely in the episode the one in the prada boots on the boat yes liz um but like that's no longer a requirement to be a housewife like i think they had a really hard time finding people with actual money even though i found that to be the most interesting part. So you sort of have to let that go. It's not aspirational anymore. It's just a reality show. You know, it could be on any franchise, any network. So I'm going to continue on with it. I like that. Ashley Ikinetti is on it.

10:41Jackie Oshry:It makes it feel like you have a familiar. It's like a friend. You have a friend at school.

10:46Claudia Oshry:At least I know her name. Yeah. Like I don't know any of their names. It was good. OK, yeah, maybe I'll get swindled into watching it again via my television.

10:55Jackie Oshry:I also watch Summer House, which we can do in the TV recap.

10:58Claudia Oshry:Actually, programming like I've sort of reprogrammed, recalibrated the show for today. And the Summer House recap is going to be within the first story. That's the first story is like Summer House in the city. And like, that's what everyone's talking about. It's like, why would we move it to the end?

11:12Jackie Oshry:And then one more absolutely bonkers thing happened to me last night that I didn't even tell you about.

11:16Claudia Oshry:OK, it better be.

11:18Jackie Oshry:No, this is actually fucking crazy. Ready? Guess who commented on my TikTok. You're never going to guess.

11:24Claudia Oshry:Man or woman?

11:28Jackie Oshry:I can't answer that question.

11:30Claudia Oshry:Ooh.

11:33Claudia Oshry:Caitlyn Jenner? No. I'm fucking crying.

11:39Jackie Oshry:I can't answer that question. Not because of any gender issues. More so because it's not necessarily a person.

11:47Claudia Oshry:It's a concept. The brown bear official Instagram

11:52Jackie Oshry:it's a program it's a program max and ruby oh i wish no ready four words for you chat gbt what yeah so i made a tiktok i thought it was really smart of me actually i was doing my makeup and i got the new house labs foundation and concealer i've never bought it before had no idea what my shade was so i asked chat i'm like this is my face and this is like some other foundations that are pretty good and they told me exactly what to get so I did a tic tac like letting chat gbt do my makeup and it worked flawlessly I'm wearing it today I was wearing it yesterday I'm obsessed with both of the products um and people in the comments were sort of lauding me as just a pioneer of AI and then chat chimed in obviously it was a big enough video that chat it came across her desk

12:38Claudia Oshry:and yeah chat commented on my tic tac very cool you know I wear house labs foundation did you

12:43Jackie Oshry:know that about me um I remember we had a conversation about it and I remember you were talking about how it was like this sort of kind of challenging time for you switching from your OG foundation I don't I didn't know that you like stayed there I stayed there and it wasn't even

12:55Claudia Oshry:intentional I was gonna go I wanted just like a little bit of a lighter foundation and I wound

13:00Jackie Oshry:up like I use it every day I feel like it's been a while since we had a state of the union I feel like people didn't know that about me it's very it's very gen z of you honestly it is very gen I feel like we haven't had a state of the union on celebrity makeup brands in such a long time because like the ever changing landscape. Yeah. House Labs really like dug themselves out of like when she first launched that brand, it was like an Amazon brand. And then Sephora got involved in like very slowly. It's become like a pargy brand. I would say it's up there now with like I feel like Rare Beauty has taken a little bit of a dip.

13:29Jackie Oshry:There was a time where it was like the biggest. Yeah. Road is there now. Like some some brands come and go. Some are, you know, some will always be like Fenty. and some will never take off like rem beauty yeah yeah correct well are you ready to get into the stories and j-lo beauty yeah yeah is that real no skincare i don't know if they're still in business because i was it glow no it's called j-lo beauty wasn't maybe that was one of the products it was j-lo beauty um it was skincare i think like for mature women no i think you're

14:06Claudia Oshry:confusing it with like a rugs men's skincare because they were dating at the time no i'm not checking she had a skincare line no no but like i don't know about the maturity i don't think they

14:14Jackie Oshry:ever had one sale so i think that's probably why they closed down interesting well that hasn't

14:20Claudia Oshry:stopped other brands like who name them name them who hasn't had one sale i have to circle back with you on that but i'm not afraid to say if i can think of i don't think i didn't think you were

14:34Jackie Oshry:afraid i'm never afraid never don't be afraid jackie i'm not afraid something so random that our family like quotes and it's funny because every family has like different movie and tv show quotes that like resonate and they always reference in their modern lives and for us some like the weirdest thing that we always quote you can't say the word afraid without no i'm afraid

14:58Claudia Oshry:What's it from?

14:59Jackie Oshry:And it's from this episode of, no, Suite Life of Zach and Cody, where London is learning how to swim. And they're like, oh, my God, I can't believe you don't know how to swim. And so she's learning to swim. And they're like, okay, now take your hands off the wall or whatever. And she's like, no, I'm afraid. It's like the most random episode I'm talking about. We say it all the time.

15:17Claudia Oshry:That's so crazy. That's like, I can learn from. But I can learn. That was like a really sad scene.

15:25Jackie Oshry:Yeah, actually. It was from Law and Order. where this girl was like, I think she was like mentally handicapped, right? And something with the scissors? No, that was a different episode. Wait, which is the scissors? Olivia's gonna know.

15:36Claudia Oshry:Oh, I stabbed her in the back. I stabbed her in the back. I put her in the back.

15:43Jackie Oshry:No, but there's like a whole monologue with that one. Hold on. Were they stabbed in the back? Law and Order episode, scissors stabbed in the back. It's like this little girl with a black bob and she like kills someone skin deep.

15:57Claudia Oshry:I stabbed him in the back. I hurt him. So then I grabbed the scissors and I stabbed him in the back. I hurt him in the back.

16:03Jackie Oshry:Grabbed the scissors. And then she takes a juratic pause. I took the, grabbed the scissors. Then I stabbed him in the back. And I think she was from Long Island. She's from Pensacola. That's not much bigger than Maysville. Law and order. Like I'm never going to find this random quote.

16:20Claudia Oshry:Why would you? Unless it's stuck with anyone else.

16:27Jackie Oshry:yes this quote appears in law and order special victims unit episode alien the lines are spoken by a young girl named emma boyd during a tearful confession i was mad i was so mad i grabbed the scissors and i heard him in the back with them he fell down and hit his head cracking the fuck up the boy was i was mad i was so mad oh my god and i think the girl correct me if i'm wrong i'm gonna double check the actress is the little girl from jersey girl with ben affleck oh that i don't know about that that i don't know i never saw that movie i'm 90 sure oh 1000 yep i'm right confirmed like we're constantly delivering facts on this on this podcast yeah okay now that we've

17:12Claudia Oshry:quoted enough random episodes of sb emma boyd the great emma boyd we can get into the fast size stories that you need to know.

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22:59Claudia Oshry:Thank you, Tert De Laurentiis. You're welcome. I like that. Our first story, In the House, In the City trailer drops. That's also a good title. In the House. So In the City, the show that follows the Summer House cast and Friends into the fall in the city. The trailer has dropped. The show is centered around Lindsay Hubbard, Kyle, and Amanda, along with some new cast mates it really focuses on like couples and married people in the city now Carl has spoken out about why he was not on okay I saw that clip today it was kind of sad yeah but he said like they're they weren't really focusing on single people and he was like he said he did

23:39Jackie Oshry:film though and he was kind of cut out yeah and he's hoping to like maybe be in the second season

23:43Claudia Oshry:I think he's gonna need to get a girlfriend like I right I mean it makes sense like the valley doesn't have like actually single people they may have divorced people or with children who are navigating that season of their life but it's not for singles like sorry singles no I know

23:56Jackie Oshry:and I feel like for so many years reality tv really like was exclusively for single people if you were like in a relationship you were considered boring and sort of like set to the side out to pasture yeah I love that Bravo has this like genre of shows the valley Persian version now in the city which is like housewives is older and then summer house like those younger shows where everyone's single like southern charm is younger and i feel like now they have this sort of in between genre which i really like and i'm sorry carl like i when he was watching while i was watching his podcast today i thought it was really sweet and i felt bad for him but it's like it's time for the married people to finally get some attention yeah get some love

24:32Claudia Oshry:people with young children but it also makes sense because it's like and that's like our age right now and it feels like very convenient like oh these shows are happening when we're in this moment too but i think it's also successful a lot of their viewers like are you know millennial women who started watching Vanderpump Rules and were like living for it and now like are settling down and having kids and like we find this sort of content interesting and also like their lives of Mormon Wives has been like huge for the genre and the valley I would say the valley sort of like invented the genre yeah and I think it's great and also like those people who were on Vanderpump Rules like yeah eventually they got married and had kids and I want to say this is such a credit to Lindsay Hubbard because I if she didn't go and have a baby like this show would not exist they literally made a show for her because she had a baby and they wanted to go to summer house on

25:16Jackie Oshry:television so like and slay mama i caught up on summer house she's such a bright spot like she's the she doesn't add to the drama at all but like she's so fucking funny that it really would have been such a waste for them to not have been able to utilize her in any way so i love that the show was built around her i do have a couple of notes when it comes to like the cast and crew i think like i think the summer house audience like really doesn't like danielle and i don't think we needed her um Danielle's back and Andrea's back which I think people have really missed him and loved him and there is this like mystery around the girl Lexi that he like left the show for like I think that he's perfect for it it looks like a enormous cast the cast photo it must have been 20 people I like couldn't even didn't know where to look that's a little overwhelming and I feel like I don't love that but all in all I don't know if the show would have been as I mean it's not a success yet but the trailer like everyone's obsessed with it this whole Scamandoval thing is kind of the best thing to happen to Summerhouse.

26:15Jackie Oshry:I don't know what the future of In the City would have looked like. I think maybe it would have been like a smaller valley, but I do think now it's huge because we're all watching this season of Summerhouse looking for clues. The city was filmed after that, so we're all looking at clues there.

26:27Claudia Oshry:I think already they had a season because like Kyle and Amanda got divorced on the season. Right, right. So it was already like, okay, that's where we'll go to like actually the relationship will end in In the City. Like when they're done filming, I think they're officially separated. So yes, more clues for like Wes Amanda in the trailer, like Wes is in it and they're hugging and we can look for crumbs. Some of the other cast members include Nick Barber and his wife, Yvonne. Then do you remember Whitney Franzway? Of course I do. On The Bachelor and she's on it. I weirdly like keep up with her sister on TikTok.

27:03Claudia Oshry:Oh yeah, they're both like influencers. influencers.

27:06Jackie Oshry:But her sister's a really big influencer. And she has, like a TikToker, she has a baby and her and her man do like cute couple content. I think he cooks. They remind me a lot of me and Ben. Oh, cute.

27:14Claudia Oshry:Well, Whitney's boyfriend Kenny is also an investor in Loverboy. Oh, interesting. Yeah, he's Kyle's friend and a fellow Loverboy investor. So that's like a real tie. Plus she's like, has reality TV roots. So that's actually a pretty good casting. I agree.

27:30Jackie Oshry:I love Bravo tapping old Bachelor contestants. I feel like that's an untapped market. And I think that it's a really good idea they these are professionals those girls when they were that was like oh gee remember unreal like it was cut the road they know how to be on tv yeah especially

27:45Claudia Oshry:someone like ashley i she's a veteran oh yeah veteran um whitney like i think sort of coasted through her season and like she was very forgettable i think she still is like around

27:55Jackie Oshry:because she's friends with a lot of the girls she's very like non-controversial so like i don't

27:58Claudia Oshry:think she's actually like been had the experience the reality tv experience yet so i wonder how this would be for her but like jasmine good is on the valley i feel like people forget that she's also from the bachelor yes i like her that's so funny yeah then we have danielle alivara who's formerly from summer house with her man's ian heavey i feel like she got a boyfriend just so she could like be eligible for the show yeah you know what i don't mind that she's here i'm gonna give her space and the opportunity because every show needs a villain first of all yeah and now she's having a moment because she said five years ago she didn't trust amanda like oh please i haven't seen anybody

28:36Jackie Oshry:giving her like she was just saying mean things about everyone sorry a broken clock is right twice

28:40Claudia Oshry:a day no you haven't seen that clip like dang oh no i haven't this is what everyone's doing now which is so frustrating to me they're clipping old stuff from summer house anytime someone looks

28:49Jackie Oshry:sideways at amanda dang i'll clocked amanda yeah right okay page i did clock amanda in that reunion

28:57Claudia Oshry:clip that was kind of crazy yeah i feel like she was giving a dirty look at west to west of course but not i don't know but now with the craig stuff like maybe maybe she was a little like disloyal yeah but like but then they continue to be like best friends bed bugs etc so bless you i have heard

29:18Jackie Oshry:that a lot of the friendships on summer house are a little like exaggerated in the sense um when it comes to Amanda I've heard that like she actually like goes really MIA during the off season and a lot of the girls are like really really friends and I think that's why Paige said on Giggly Squad she like was speaking in code and everybody's like decoding it she's like well Sierra's our real friend so Amanda's not yeah I've heard that like um Amanda like doesn't talk to any of the girls when she doesn't like they're not working I don't know it's just like convenient like oh

29:50Claudia Oshry:And now all of a sudden that she's on the outs, like none of us ever liked her. We're friends with her.

29:54Jackie Oshry:It's true. Oh, of course. But it does kind of make it a little bit more understandable how maybe she could stab Sierra in the back. Like maybe they weren't that close. Yeah,

30:02Claudia Oshry:for sure. But it's just like now even all the fans, every, and I would have loved to seen last night's episode and the reaction to it. Yes. Yes.

30:10Jackie Oshry:Before Wes Mandeval, because of that, my jaw hit the floor. It actually takes a lot to shock me. Like when I heard Ben reiterating the story, of what Sabrina said, I was, I was floored. And I love his directness being like, why did you say that?

30:27Claudia Oshry:Yeah. He was like really upset, but also like he moves kind of weirdly because yeah, like he did go skinny with him with Amanda. And then this summer when like Bailey made a joke that Ben was in love with Amanda, like he got so mad, more mad than Amanda. Who's like the one who's married. And he's like, why would you think I'm going after my mates, missus and not my mates, missus, the mates, missus. and um I would have loved to see how the audience reacted to last night's episode and like thought like if Ben was in the wrong and Amanda was in like now that Amanda you know nothing she can say or do is right like everyone's gonna pile on but I just feel like I don't know if everyone would I feel like people would have like defended her and just thought Ben was like weird and the new guy being weird or like she didn't say it no I think she said it obviously because also next week like the girl confronts her that girl was just like she's she hit the ground running you

31:18Jackie Oshry:She wants a career and she's going to get it. Yeah. Yeah. It was a good episode. I'm like, so I haven't watched week to week. So just like a big catch up. I want to say a few things. You're caught up or you like aren't jump back in. I skipped a couple episodes. That's fine. The way I like need Carl and Bailey, like, I don't know why he's so resistant to like hooking up with someone in the house. She's very sound of mind. She's not like a crazy drinker. I think that has to be like a consideration for Carl. and I like her a lot. I think she's like really honest and funny. She's definitely a shit starter.

31:52Jackie Oshry:She like exaggerates. I like how she said I don't lie. I exaggerate like she does and I kind of like them together. Yeah. Even though I don't know why he feels so much older.

32:01Claudia Oshry:Yeah. No he doesn't feel so much older. I actually I like them together too. I think he's just like scared period and she's like you know a little bit awkward and so like no one's gonna like make the move but I think that they could be nice together. I think she's really adorable and like earnest. adorable i think she's a nice girl her friend levi like levi levi can come on namesake

32:25Jackie Oshry:yes levi can come i don't know if we want her but she can well i feel bad for levi because

32:30Claudia Oshry:there's no reason why levi shouldn't and like i think levi is just like a very like strong self-assured person because like she doesn't care that she's not on the show sometimes she's not starting shit to be on the show more she loses her spot in the house when lindsey comes like Like it's either Lindsay or her every weekend. And she doesn't like desperately cling to her spot, like starting drama to stay in the house. Like I kind of like her energy. She's just like a supportive friend. And she's like, yeah, I'll come on your show. Sure.

32:56Jackie Oshry:Yeah, agreed. And you might have to help me like fill in some blanks because like this girl, Dara, who's coming in at the second to last weekend as a full-time castmate and has a boyfriend already. Like I'm so confused.

33:06Claudia Oshry:So there was a singles event in the city. I saw that. Everyone had to bring a single friend. And Wes invited Dara, this girl that he used to hook up with. And I think she was meant to be cast on the show. I think that was him like bringing her into the show. So late. No, no, no. This was like a few weeks ago. Okay. And then that following weekend, she came out to the house like for the day party. And she was flirting with Ben and KJ. She thought that they both were cute. I remember the big flirty day. The big flirty day. She's like checking out her options. Everybody likes her. And then literally that week, her and KJ start dating.

33:41and now they're like serious and they're still dating today that's nice yeah so like now she's

33:47Claudia Oshry:coming in as like kj's girlfriend but i think she was always meant to get cast on the show got it i feel like they are there's the room is at the house is at capacity so unless someone's not there like no one's getting a room but now that dara doesn't need her own room like right right that works but yeah i think she was meant to be on the show and then she wound up like actually dating a cast member and i say this every time we talk about summer house over the

34:09Jackie Oshry:last 10 years I'm just like I will never get over it maybe it's just because like it would never fly if I was there but like the way that Kyle and Amanda get the master every season like without question like I think it's so unfair like since season one I think there was one or two seasons where a couple of the girls like three girls shared one room the master but like excuse me

34:30Claudia Oshry:yeah then I think they didn't like it I I feel like I remember like the AC doesn't work as good there and I'm sure it's also really loud on the main floor yeah usually like the boys the new boys sleep on the main floor and like the girls sleep upstairs i think it's quieter but i agree like you get the master you know you just got married fine no for sure and i think for a while i was

34:48Jackie Oshry:like well we're two people in a room but like now there's other couples a lot of the girls share

34:52Claudia Oshry:rooms yeah no i don't like i don't care and also like you guys you're not like mom and dad of the house like you're seriously like scary and scarier of the house a crazy aunt and uncle go in the

35:02Jackie Oshry:addict agreed um so i will now start keeping up weekly because obviously we have so many clues to

35:09Claudia Oshry:look for yeah we have to look for clues i wonder if they'll change the edit at all i don't i felt like they did that too late i don't think so i felt like they did that with scannabal but there was also just so much of the air and markel was just like spinning they were so not smart about it like yeah they when she said to lala like good thing you don't have a man for me to steal like she's queen sorry she ate down with that that was crazy it was amazing um so what else happened last night on the summer house lindsey's apartment we need to talk about lindsey's

35:43Jackie Oshry:apartment i had seen it before when she moved into it i was like following very closely it's

35:48Claudia Oshry:an insane apartment it's an i've seen her apartment on instagram i've seen her like but every corner of the apartment is done to the nines and she has like a foyer she has so many bookshelves she had a piano player which means she has a piano piano it's an insane apartment do you know like what

36:02Jackie Oshry:neighborhood it's in they said financial district i don't know if they tell the truth it's like crazy to tell people where you live oh yeah but it's in manhattan it's not i thought maybe it was like in brooklyn or something like somewhere it's incredible incredible every time i see it on her stories I'm like in shock and she's like it's all for my Gemma girl I fucking love her like I'm sorry

36:25Claudia Oshry:I love her so much and I feel so vindicated because when she was getting so much shit so many years ago when we just like popped into Summer House to see what was going on and we were like yeah I don't know what's the very beginning we took like five years off and then we came back with Carl and Lindsay I'm like I don't know what's going on here but like I'm like I agree with Lindsay like sorry it just is what it is good we never turned on Lindsay like when everyone did that's so awesome what's also so funny is I remember when we used to recap it we'd be like I don't like Lindsay like she's not my kind of girl I don't want to be friends with her I don't like her personality but she's right yes right and now I feel like she's matured so

37:00Jackie Oshry:much that we've met her she's been on the show but I think if I like went out to dinner with her

37:04Claudia Oshry:I would have a blast yeah no it's funny how you like we've like grown to be like more speech thing

37:10Jackie Oshry:she's literally Olivia Asher with the speeches like hysterical I could not get over her place

37:14Claudia Oshry:It was done so beautifully. Like, yeah. Oh my gosh. I need to know more.

37:20Jackie Oshry:I only want the best for her and Gemma girl.

37:21Claudia Oshry:I need a house tour. Can she take me to the first, second, third floor? I saw about the music video.

37:29Jackie Oshry:Madeline Klein, Margaret Qualley shaking their tissues. Very 70s. Like, you know.

37:34Claudia Oshry:I heard about, I saw about it. Like I saw the headline and I was like, good.

37:37Jackie Oshry:I saw some clips. It made me feel bad about myself. Good on you girls. Yeah. I like felt fat. So I didn't watch the whole thing, you know? Yeah. It's called protecting your mental health. Oh, I want to talk about mental health.

37:50Claudia Oshry:Okay. Switching gears. I posted a TikTok yesterday. Switching gears.

37:55Jackie Oshry:Actually, I take it back. I don't want to talk about mental health.

37:58Claudia Oshry:Oh, switching gears again. Back to summer house. Back to summer house. That was all in the summer house. Oh, we're getting to know Mia Moore. I think she's great cast. Oh, I love that girl. Yeah.

38:11Jackie Oshry:Oh, I love that girl. When she was sitting down for brunch with Lindsay and Amanda, she said something so deeply. Oh, oh my God. I actually started crying. She said her mom died a year and a half ago and she just feels so untethered in this world. And she like, oh, I like, I just love her. Like, I love her. I don't really like her boyfriend.

38:30Claudia Oshry:No, me neither. And like, she needs, like, I think she would like be an amazing mom. She's already like a mother to the group. And I think a baby would make her feel so tethered to this world. So like, we need to give her a baby. Someone needs to give her boyfriend like a restaurant contract in New York City so that like he can be local and she can have a baby.

38:45Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I completely agree. Like having a baby will heal her. Like hearing her talk about all that. I love her so much. Like I just I don't know where they found her. She's amazing. She's like Sierra's real friend. Love that.

38:57Claudia Oshry:Love. Yeah. Oh, and Sierra like bought her grandparents house. That was so crazy.

39:02Jackie Oshry:The thing that she had to go to court and she did it all under a land trust and her dad doesn't know.

39:05Claudia Oshry:At first, in the last episode, I watched the back end of last week's last night. So I don't know which is which. But she's saying how her grandparents' house came up for sale. And so she bought it. And I'm like, okay, great. And then it turns out, in this episode, we find out that, like, her dad was the one selling it. And so she, like, bought it anonymously from her dad. But I didn't realize that, like, it was from her dad. And that, like, I guess.

39:28Jackie Oshry:And she doesn't talk to her dad.

39:30Claudia Oshry:Right. I wonder what would have happened if, like, she had wanted to buy it from. Like if she said like, dad, I wonder why she didn't do that. Like what he would have said. Would he have said no? Because they don't talk. Would he have said no?

39:39Jackie Oshry:Probably.

39:40Claudia Oshry:Or maybe like hiked up the price.

39:42Jackie Oshry:Because she's a big star.

39:44Claudia Oshry:Yeah, because she said she didn't want special treatment. But that could be like positive or negative.

39:48Jackie Oshry:She was spotted out last night at the Euphoria season premiere. Right. She did an interview, listen, with Sydney Sweeney. Just listen to this.

39:59Claudia Oshry:It's not good. What do you think is the next step?

40:01Jackie Oshry:I honestly, I feel like you have to get married. I mean, I would hope so. You got to make it worth it. You got to make it worth that. I don't know what they're saying. Make it worth something. Yeah. Just worth too much pain. Yeah. If you steal your friend's ex-boyfriend, it's not good. She was asking her, like, if you steal your friend's ex-boyfriend. I think that's also a plot line in Euphoria. Oh, she does. She steals Nate from Maddie. So, Sierra was doing red carpet interview.

40:24Claudia Oshry:Yeah, that's, like, been a big thing for her recently. Yeah. That's very cool. Well, actually, that's a great segue to our next story, which is the Euphoria season three premiere. Headline news is that Cindy Sweeney and Scooter Braun were spotted kissing at the premiere.

40:37Jackie Oshry:I think that they're cute together. I can't believe Euphoria season three is premiering. It's actually been 83 years. It's so crazy. And everyone like hates it, right? Zendaria doesn't talk about it in press, has not said one piece. Jacob Elordi, who's like actively doing press for Wuthering Heights and stuff, has not. There is something so sinister about the show in general. If you watch it, it's a very dark, anxiety-inducing show. But then also knowing that everyone seems really unhappy on the set, there's something very spooky about the whole thing. And I know that the premiere is like all bright, light.

41:07Jackie Oshry:We have Ciara from Summer House. But I don't know. I can smell it.

41:11Claudia Oshry:Yeah, this will probably be like their last hurrah. Oh, and then Barbie Ferreira leaving. Like, it's weird. I feel proud that I'm not engaged in this whatsoever. I clocked it. Even though, if you're going to be. I tried to watch one episode a million years ago, and I was like, this is like so dark. and not the way I want to feel when I'm trying to be entertained.

41:30Jackie Oshry:Of course, but as like a mother to, you know, future teenagers, you've got to know what the kids are up to because the kids are not fucking okay.

41:38Claudia Oshry:Sure, but like this is Hollywood. Like that's not my life. It's not my life. Like that's not my life.

41:47Jackie Oshry:When I saw it, it really made me concerned for the younger generation if it's even remotely relatable and like based on.

41:55Claudia Oshry:Well, first of all, it's no. Like, no. See? No. Okay, she says no. Like, definitely have concerns. Definitely keep your eyes and ears open, but, like, no.

42:05Jackie Oshry:It's such a crazy show. And now it's no longer about high school. And I don't even know what happens.

42:08Claudia Oshry:I just, like, it doesn't have to be that way, you know?

42:11Jackie Oshry:Yeah. Whatever it is. And it's not about high school now. The show jumps to the future, like, five or six years. You know, Nate and Maddie are married, or Nate and Cassie are married. She's an OnlyFans model. I'm excited. Okay.

42:24Claudia Oshry:Let us know how it is.

42:26Jackie Oshry:I do think it's going to be like a better show in post grad. You know, it's too dark to be kids. It's very upsetting.

42:35Claudia Oshry:I agree with that. It already sounds better the way you're describing it.

42:37Jackie Oshry:Yeah. It has like a very underlying spooky tone because all of this disgusting pornographic and like violent things are happening to kids in high school.

42:45Claudia Oshry:Ooh. Yeah. Well, on the bright side, Sydney and Scooter took their, they didn't walk the carpet together like, which is fine. No, it's her big night. He's more of a BTS kind of guy anyway. Yeah, but they were like kissing in their seats. So cute.

42:57Jackie Oshry:It's funny. I'm like really able to compartmentalize the different parts of Scooter Braun. There are so many eras of him in his career. Of course, the Taylor Swift, but then also the Justin Bieber, the manager. But now I really see him because he did like such great work for the Jews. I see him as like this businessman philanthropist who's dating Sidney Sweeney. Like I've literally forgotten everything I know about him up until this point. It's like all been erased. And it's like, yes, that's exactly who she should be dating.

43:21Claudia Oshry:Yeah, she loves a businessman. She's been very consistent in that.

43:25Jackie Oshry:And so in that interview with Sierra, she said she does want to get married.

43:29Claudia Oshry:I wonder if he's open to marriage again.

43:32Jackie Oshry:I know. Oh, did you see that his wife?

43:35Claudia Oshry:I feel like for Sydney, yeah.

43:38Jackie Oshry:Oh, did we talk about this, that his wife was on Real Hospice in Beverly Hills?

43:41Claudia Oshry:No, we talked about that she was spotted with Tom Brady or like rumored to be dating Tom Brady.

43:46Jackie Oshry:Oh, yeah, I think she was also at Rachel Zoe's party.

43:49Claudia Oshry:I saw a still image of her. Yeah. Very beautiful woman.

43:56Jackie Oshry:Very beautiful woman.

44:00Claudia Oshry:Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Secret Lives of Mormon. The Secret Lives. But she's not filming. Speaking of, Jen Affleck posted a video that's got rumors of swirling. She's very teary and disheveled saying she's very hopeful for a new life chapter in a tearful video. So she posted a video sort of saying it's a new chapter. It's a new dawn. It's a new day. It's a new life.

44:25Jackie Oshry:Lots of vagueness.

44:26Claudia Oshry:Lots of like rubbing her eyes and just saying, you know, she's got married at 19 and she had a baby at 20 and she hasn't discovered who Jen is and she's going through a hard time. And usually when she's in a hard time, she doesn't like share, but she's trying to share and she'll share about the hard time. And people are also saying she's very clearly not wearing her wedding ring. Her hands are all over the video. I want to say she's not wearing any ring. she's not wearing makeup she is wearing hoops which means she did put on a little jewelry and skipped the ring but I don't think she's getting a divorce I don't think that's what she was trying to signal but maybe that's me being naive but like that's I'm sorry so they just had a baby like

45:02Jackie Oshry:seriously what are you doing but that doesn't stop these people I know but like they're getting

45:07Claudia Oshry:divorced like as if your life isn't hard enough right now now you have to give your kids up for half the time and also now you have to like go through a divorce or a separation and all this like just stop for a second I saw a really like a tweet a while ago that was like do not make big decisions before your kids turn two you're not in a position to make big decisions whether it's separating or like give yourself time and this is all like barring abuse which we've not seen we've not seen that from Zach Aflac and we've I mean I know he did go sit down with Whitney but Like I'm going to not hold that against him at the moment.

45:45Claudia Oshry:No,

45:45Jackie Oshry:he's obviously like a bad guy, but I think a lot of what this season looked like was like really her more so being like a kind of a rational and a bad decision maker and him just like going along with whatever,

45:59Claudia Oshry:whatever she says. Yeah. She sent him to go talk to Whitney. So she can't be mad at him for that. He also said like production was like wanting him to, I guess they wanted someone to talk to Whitney. And if Jen wasn't going to go, cause she was like grieving dancing with the stars. He had to go, whatever. I'm not gonna hold that against him I feel like he's been really supportive he's sort of like a puppet no and he like he was really awful in the first season but I feel like he actually over the last few years has like understood what his role is going to be how he can support his wife and like he's been a good partner and so I just think the idea of them separating right now to me it sounds like so fatiguing like as if the last six months haven't been stressful enough for her even before she had this baby she had pre-partum depression like just sit down so i didn't see that

46:45Jackie Oshry:tweet but i saw a tiktok and it was like all these different girls commenting um it was so interesting i'd never thought about it before and this girl was like a lot of times i just wish i stayed married and again barring abuse or anything really bad but it's just like not it's not your guy because she was like the idea of having to drop my kids off every sunday

47:07Jackie Oshry:is so big compared to just like sleeping with somebody who I'm not like majorly in love with and I had never really like thought of it like that and then of course someone was kind of well my abuser that's not what we're talking about of course just like uh you know people get divorced for just like you know maybe we rush into things maybe we're not compatible we're not happy and so it was just a bunch of girls being like I think about this all the time like because it's so heart-wrenching doing those drop-offs and it's just like it never goes well

47:35Claudia Oshry:even with two well-intended people like it's just never that's the nature of divorce and even if it goes well it means you you don't have your kids 100 of the time and she was like being in a bad

47:45Jackie Oshry:marriage is nothing compared to having your kids 50 of the time and I feel like that's kind of Jen and Ben I don't think that there's anything nefarious going on I do think they got married too young I do think they're not compatible but like at this point is it worth the alternative I don't know. Yeah.

48:00Claudia Oshry:She also was saying like that. She's like frontal lobe is developing. She's like recognizing new parts of herself.

48:06Jackie Oshry:Well, that's so true. Getting married at 19 and having a baby at 20 is whack. Like it's seriously whack. I think it leaves a lot of room for like her to be like struggling with her sense of self. But I don't buy into the illusion that you have to leave a marriage or a relationship to discover new parts of yourself. I hate that shit. And I hate to quote the awful Ben Platt. but his song grow together is about that it's like why can't we grow together like we all we have a lot of growing up to do i don't i don't really buy into that and i think that like

48:37Claudia Oshry:you can do both yeah but i also i don't think it's a blanket statement what you just said like getting married at 19 and having a baby at 20 is whack like like no no i think it can be

48:45Jackie Oshry:really hard for a girl who frontal lobe has not been developed and then throwing in all the fame yeah some people it doesn't affect but i think it's more often than not like you're going to go through a rough patch when you start to like really understand who you are yeah but i think

49:00Claudia Oshry:everyone's gonna go through a rough patch so like that's just your reason why that you did yeah but

49:05Jackie Oshry:i think like the exception to the rule is like it going perfectly but more often than not if you get married super young both of you guys that's why they say like you know you're not supposed to get married so young it is gonna be bumpy yeah yeah and then you have to think of all the things on

49:24Claudia Oshry:top of it if you're committed and like you can navigate it together yeah but there's so much

49:30Jackie Oshry:they're navigating so much they are navigating so much and they keep like adding to their plate and

49:34Claudia Oshry:that's what i don't like sit down like put roots down be near family focus on like you know a couple things not like not to say she shouldn't have done dancing with the stars but then like she said she's moving to la like what what and now she's like spearheading that spinoff right be with family

49:51Jackie Oshry:yeah it's it's true they're not their situation is tough i believe that and they probably are going through like a little bit of a marriage rough patch i don't think that they're going to get divorced and like this also is a business so you know they're not filming right now i think a lot of them feel like they've been eclipsed by west mandeval so yeah maybe she's just starting

50:07Claudia Oshry:stuff by wearing hoops and no ring i thought so too and i'm fine with that and i just like i just don't think that they should separate right now like what so that she then is like either not with her kids or is with her kids and doesn't have her co her partner to like help her right like that's also hard being a single mom like and just sit down sit down she was like stressing out in that video like not everything needs to be like figured out right this second like you're she's has how old is her baby like eight months younger than ruby she's two months behind me yeah just calm down just take a breath just calm down take a breath you know yeah um so that's the latest with the secret lives mormon wives but they're not filming sorry like that one sound bite is going to

50:57Jackie Oshry:rehabilitate his career oh absolutely that plus like the marciano yeah it's kind of been a bad

51:04Claudia Oshry:week for jesse draper formerly she doesn't care because she doesn't is like polite she's like writing a script of her her life like for her show i just hope internally she's actually okay you know i don't think she is damn because she's also now having to like drop her kids off yeah but it sounds like she's been living that way for a while because in the car daddy interview she was saying how she would like stay at a hotel hotel like days and it's just been messy for a while. I don't know.

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57:20Claudia Oshry:Oh, no, you never know what you're going to get. You know that? I meant to tell you that Mikaela Naguera, I told you she has a boyfriend.

57:29Jackie Oshry:She was dating her as a sweetheart.

57:30Claudia Oshry:heart it was the first thing this morning she hard launched her boyfriend she said stop making fun of his looks you fucking bitches and i agree they made fun of his looks he's so normal she said that people were like surfacing bad photos of him and like making fun of his looks

57:44Jackie Oshry:i love her more than anything and i need to get this message to her like in such a like an urgent manner stop sharing your personal life on tiktok like seriously she's so young she's just getting divorced like just stop like and because obviously everyone's commenting you're moving on too fast like who cares you make your own choices whatever but like i actually think you really need to stop sharing elements of your personal life although she did post something so she posted two hilarious things she's so funny one was she was like i'm starting a new series um things my haters bought me because she gets so much engagement from her haters that ultimately it just makes her more money and she bought a birkin black so she did an unboxing her like hater she said she's gonna start making it she's gonna start making a series of all the things she can afford because of her haters and then two she did a reale activiste try it try on but she was so funny can i actually find it yeah oh gosh what are we gonna hear this time she was no no she was basically saying that um she knows it's gonna be good because all the people who work on the brand work on her brand too yeah well we said that no of course but it was just like a very like turning like making it so much about herself when i think a lot of people would have um actually really wanted to hear from her because she is uh has acne prone skin and she's like known for

59:03Claudia Oshry:having really um bad skin and like huge transformations okay let's see if i can find it

59:11Jackie Oshry:real review on alex earl's new line real actives now i bought this myself i was not sent this in PA and I really want to test this line because as someone with acne prone skin, I actually am so excited about this. This sounds right up my alley and this is the exact routine that I like to do in the evening. I know this shit is going to be good because Alex Earl has the same exact investor as me, the same exact designers and works with a lot of the same people that I work with to make my brand point of view so if I ain't putting out shit she ain't gonna put out shit either trust me but yes Sam if you're seeing this he designed my packaging and Alex's you killed it on this I absolutely love the packaging genuinely I think that this packaging is so freaking cool it is beautiful it feels luxurious so we have the cleansing balm we have a cleanser i don't know i can't explain like i thought the whole thing was a little shady shady yeah because you know they're both beauty tiktokers and you know michaela like launched skincare first i don't know maybe i'm looking into it too much but

1:00:27Claudia Oshry:it felt like a little drama well what was her overall review positive or negative oh i didn't get to that well if it was positive then it wasn't shady because she just gave her so much price Okay, should we continue watching it? No, no, no. I don't want to watch it anymore. But she's like the most influential, you know, TikTok influencer of our time. And so if she gave a positive review like that, and she has acne-prone skin, like, sorry, not shady. But I think she wants to just be like, hey, don't forget about me. My shit's premium too. Don't forget. Yeah, yeah. She got to look out for Michaela's self.

1:00:55Jackie Oshry:Number one.

1:00:56Claudia Oshry:Our next story is for you. Me? Adrian Grenier gets justice for his Devil Wears Prada character in a new Starbucks commercial. Did you see this commercial?

1:01:08Jackie Oshry:I did. I did. Adrian Grenier. And what's so funny is that like the opening video of it was like, you guys might have heard I was, you know, not asked to be in a certain sequel. And I was like, what sequel? I'm like, Ansaraj has another movie. I literally could not like place what he was talking about until the very end.

1:01:28Claudia Oshry:Yeah. So he said, you might have seen the headlines. I wasn't asked to be a part of a certain sequel, but I'm good. Really, it's all good. Then it turns out he's talking to his barista at Starbucks. And so he makes a toast to Nate. He said he made a mean sandwich. He loves his girlfriend to a point. He wasn't perfect. So let's leave Nate in 2006 and keep this good energy going. And this is for the good energy beverages at Starbucks. They're energy refreshers.

1:01:55Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I'm not like totally under, like seeing the product alignment. but I do think conceptually like getting Adrian Grenier in your ad to talk about how terrible his character was like obsessed toasty lions, even though I'm really not understanding how it connects.

1:02:11Claudia Oshry:I think if we reverse engineer it, like this is an ad for Starbucks and devil wears Prada. Like at the end there's a promotion for devil wears Prada. So like it's, Oh, it's like, it's an, it's so, so say like devil wears Prada came to Starbucks and said like, we want to run ads with you guys. And so like, then they were like, okay, thinking of ideating who can we do maybe it's miranda getting her order i think that would have been great but maybe they couldn't get miranda's budget so they say what if we bring nate to talk about having good energy lore even though he didn't get cast the lore of adrian grenier and

1:02:49Jackie Oshry:starbucks he's like a long time something like he was part of the straws the driving force behind straws being like quote removed from starbucks even though they're all still there you just have to ask for it um and then doing those dumb plastic lids that like have even more plastic um he's like a big plastic guy and he spearheaded the campaign to get starbucks like to naturally like globally remove their straws so he has worked with them before i believe like they're

1:03:13Claudia Oshry:there's some a relationship there yeah so that's something like why they thought to tap him um i

1:03:18Jackie Oshry:loved it i just feel like that like we're speaking negatively about nate i feel like adrian himself

1:03:23Claudia Oshry:like doesn't get enough hate for like what he did to the straw industry like really so fruitlessly like they didn't move the needle on plastics whatsoever it just made everyone's everyday lives like more inconvenient and don't forget how ableist it was I never forgot it's ableist to insist that we not use plastic drawers and don't get me with the paper don't get me now

1:03:48Jackie Oshry:Now, Adrian Grenier is either the greatest actor of all time or one of the most genuinely insufferable human beings of all time. Because the roles that I know him from, Vinny Chase, an absolutely fucking dreadful human being, and Nate Jarlsberg, one of the worst boyfriends of all time. He's either like he may be an amazing person, in which case he deserves like several Oscars because he's such a convincing actor or he's just like that.

1:04:17Claudia Oshry:but we're supposed to like Vinny right he's like the carry and even though we don't like love him and he's our protagonist so that's a really good comparison of him being the carry

1:04:29Jackie Oshry:but if you do like I don't know how you ever could like him he is so self-indulged he's such a terrible friend such a poor decision maker so reckless he actually makes the show unwatchable honestly.

1:04:43Claudia Oshry:I agree.

1:04:44Jackie Oshry:And I've rewatched Entourage like several times. I'm deep in the fandom. Oh my God. So funny. Speaking of Devil Wears Prada I ended up on like this thread. People are really upset because I guess in the new movie Emily's married

1:04:55Claudia Oshry:to a man

1:04:56Jackie Oshry:and I guess like it's just been clear like this entire time that she's a lesbian.

1:05:01Claudia Oshry:Oh everyone just assumed from the first movie that she's a lesbian.

1:05:04Jackie Oshry:Yeah. Oh. And that like maybe Giselle was like her

1:05:08Claudia Oshry:Oh I think people might have just gotten carried away.

1:05:11Jackie Oshry:that's like a fever dream obviously and I feel like people like obviously like made up this like

1:05:16Claudia Oshry:backstory for her and then are just like mad that producers didn't like didn't align with it right fan their fan fiction but that's really funny I never I never thought that I think like lesbians

1:05:27Jackie Oshry:just identified with her and assumed that she was probably just a lesbian interesting so then like for that to have not been their reality it was difficult for them to digest oh okay I didn't know that was happening much like cynthia revo but i'm one thing about me i'm gonna tell you things you don't know are happening are you ready for our fifth and final story

1:05:45Claudia Oshry:mm-hmm kylie jenner and timothy chalamet get dinner with kendall jenner at sushi park

1:05:50Jackie Oshry:and we also ran into ashley benson they did everyone was at sushi park

1:05:55Claudia Oshry:the uh strip mall sushi joint beloved by hollywood's elite yeah everyone's always there We have to go if we're ever in LA.

1:06:02Jackie Oshry:I don't think you can go. Really? It's literally in like a shopping plaza on the second floor.

1:06:11Claudia Oshry:Yeah, like you have to take the stairs or the elevator. Like it's not.

1:06:13Jackie Oshry:Like you know how motels that have like two floors? It's like. Outdoor staircase. In Raising Helen when Joan Cusack goes to get Hayden Panettiere out of that like turnt motel room with her boyfriend on prom night. And she like bangs down the door. It's just like that. But one of them is like a hair salon, a nail place, a sushi restaurant. Like a pizza place.

1:06:30Claudia Oshry:Joe's Pizza. Tattoo Parlor. It's so strange. I need to get inside.

1:06:36Jackie Oshry:I know. Are there photos of the inside like on the internet? Yeah, go to the geolocation on Instagram. Oh, yeah, like Yelp. Sushi Park inside.

1:06:48Claudia Oshry:But they're just like so real, you know? Oh, yeah, so real. Oh, it's literally? Kind of looks insane per use.

1:06:57Jackie Oshry:shooj. Jackie, it literally just looks like a run-down sushi joint, like with wooden chairs. It must be so good. There's one in Paris.

1:07:07Claudia Oshry:Ben has to go. Ben has to go. Kylie's looking cute. I mean, Kendall's looking cute. Oh, no, no. I'm sorry. It's Pardy. It's Pardy on the inside? Actually,

1:07:17Jackie Oshry:I don't think it is. There's like a lot of conflicting photos on the internet. Like,

1:07:22Claudia Oshry:it's so mysterious oh my god this just jared article is so pick me listen to this taylor eats there like it's insane yeah everyone okay i'm ready for the pick me if you are not aware kylie and timothy have been together for over three years we actually posted the very first piece of gossip that led them together back in april of 2023 so fucking funny everyone's just worried about number one i mean i get it except for levi from summer house it's so true she's like a comfortable two maybe even three yeah and i think she has a lot of just like peace everyone's so worried like do they know we were the first to report about kylie right right give a fuck no no we don't do we know mikaela's designer is the same as that not that i would ever clown on

1:08:13Jackie Oshry:kaylor me neither like if she has no haters i've died she has no love if she has no lovers no if ben platt has no haters like actually check on ben's offer because i probably died

1:08:25Claudia Oshry:check on me yeah check on you because i died who do you think hates him more

1:08:34Jackie Oshry:you who do i hate most oh mark ruffalo yeah like you hate mark ruffalo more than i do

1:08:40Claudia Oshry:yeah I hate a lot of people yeah but it's so funny how like when you're obsessed with pop

1:08:45Jackie Oshry:culture and celebrities like it ebbs and flows so much that's how I was feeling about Carl because in Carl's like season with Lindsay oh my god it was painful like and soft bar and now it's like soft bar is kind of a good idea I think it's doing like decently well I think his podcast is really sweet I think he's a very nice guy like I don't know and when he talks about his brother like I just like love him like yeah it's so crazy it is so crazy that's just you know seasons change

1:09:10Claudia Oshry:and we're capable of change I don't like and hold it forever no I went through that with Selena

1:09:18Jackie Oshry:Gomez you know didn't like and then I really liked and now I'm back to not liking that's like

1:09:22Claudia Oshry:yeah not a great example that feels kind of permanent um who else oh who else like yeah it happens all the time all the time i don't see it changing for ben platt but zero crazier things

1:09:38Jackie Oshry:have happened it's crazier things have happened yeah like remember nick vile

1:09:45Claudia Oshry:who could forget the great nick vile our origin we're like literally our nemesis for no reason

1:09:51Jackie Oshry:we like never even met him we just like didn't get we didn't like his like character from the show where like so basically he's the villain yeah but he was but he was did you see sean booth was

1:10:00Claudia Oshry:on a podcast like talking about um his beef with nick vile oh my god no but i have to say that

1:10:06Jackie Oshry:like sean booth is my roman empire like i've never moved on from caitlin's season of the bachelorette like and i know they've both gone on he's a kid now caitlin's been in like two long-term relationships like i know yeah but like you're still there when like she was on his back

1:10:22Claudia Oshry:at catch like doing their like post uh after the final rose press when she accidentally spoiled her

1:10:29Jackie Oshry:own season on snapchat like you kids these days think they know crazy reality tv you don't know and if you ever want to see like actual true love like you have to go watch sean proposing to caitlin when he realizes that like she's already sent nick vile home like the relief like it's it's crazy that they didn't end up together like that is true love and like that was the best time to

1:10:51Claudia Oshry:be a fan of reality tv that was the best time to be a fan of the bachelor yeah yeah that was real

1:10:58Jackie Oshry:you have to go watch your proposal like because both guys like if you didn't watch a bachelor like the final two would like go and propose and she would only say yes to one of them and like most more often than not she wouldn't let the loser propose because like it's rude so then the guy who gets out at the limo second that's the guy who like won but he doesn't know that guy number one has already been sent home he could be guy number one and so she like sort of tells him and It's just, it's actually chilling.

1:11:22Claudia Oshry:I have chills. Just thinking.

1:11:25Jackie Oshry:It's so beautiful. Meanwhile, they fucking hate each other. Yeah. They had like a custody battle over their dog. It was such a bad breakup.

1:11:35Claudia Oshry:Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I thought you meant Nick and Sean also hated each other.

1:11:40Jackie Oshry:They did. The two finalists.

1:11:42Claudia Oshry:But he was saying how like the beef was real, but it was also definitely like, you know, people were in his ear. No, like, like, you know, being like, you've got to take down Nick. this bad guy like producers were producing him to like make it bigger than it is now there's no beef but like at the time like that was very real and it was a lot of the tropes about reality tv

1:11:58Jackie Oshry:and like production people setting you up editors is based in reality and rooted from the experiences people had on the bachelor like production that was all the bachelor it was so sinister i do believe it's much better now jesse draper was saying i'll call her daddy like production like they're so

1:12:14Claudia Oshry:nice yeah you so you think bachelor production is better now oh no no no I don't know what goes on

1:12:20Jackie Oshry:there I don't watch but like but I mean like a lot of the reputation that people like and the understanding they currently have of reality tv and how you always think like you're going to be set up and like people are going to trick you that was happening on the bachelor and I don't

1:12:32Claudia Oshry:believe it happens on shows a lot anymore I think it's just like different you know especially like I feel like those bachelor contestants are like so disposable to the producers it's like yeah let's ruin your life I never have to see you again and like we need a good television whereas like on a show like summer house it's like well they won't come back if they you know what i mean like they have to like sort of like foster more of a relationship relationship um you can't just like discard them and and set them up for one-time use that's true like you're never gonna see these contestants again yeah and you don't have to worry if they had a bad experience like great

1:13:02Jackie Oshry:so don't come on paradise so don't come on paradise um all right that's our show nalafi hope you guys enjoyed thank you so much for listening to the toast so i made it through by the way and I'm feeling okay so if you see me tomorrow I think I'm like out of let's just one step at a time

1:13:18Claudia Oshry:one day at a time I'm staying

1:13:20Jackie Oshry:if you see me like walking the streets in New York today just know I can't go home

1:13:24Claudia Oshry:no you can't maybe send Ben to a hotel

1:13:28Jackie Oshry:so I am currently making up the office into like a little retreat for him because it has its own bathroom and it has a pullout couch which is like all you need when you have notovirus doesn't have a TV but he's not a big watcher of TV anyway and like I can't be displaced from my bedroom he can finish his book that's a great idea

1:13:44Claudia Oshry:yeah actually

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1:14:02Claudia Oshry:love ya, bye

1:14:14Claudia Oshry:Bye.