Claud and Friends with Margo Oshry: Monday, October 27th, 2025

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22:55fast five stories no game time I forgot you don't listen to this show also why would you know our inside jokes I'm getting used use code Toast and sent you a holiday card of me and Magnolia fermented yeah and you wanna trigger me yeah exactly okay And you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to bark at it. Bark, bark, bitch. Okay. So, Fast Five Stories. Nothing major happened over the weekend except a lot of things that just made me raise my eyebrows. Okay. The first is that Sophie Turner went on a date with someone. And I'm shook at who it is. Do you know who it is? Chris Martin. Yeah, she went on a secret date with the Coldplay frontman, Chris Martin.

23:25So, apparently, they went on a secret date. They had a night out together a week after her on-again, off-again relationship with Peregrine Pearson ended in late September. So Sophie Turner and the British Aristocrat split after attending a high society wedding together where they were seen bickering and arguing between feverish snogs on the dance floor. And then a week later, Sophie Turner and Chris Martin apparently went on a date. There's really not a lot of information about who, what, when, where, why, how. But just the sheer fact that they went on a date, let's discuss. That is so interesting.

23:55It's really crazy. Everyone in Hollywood dates each other. I know. I just want to say I'm not down. Me neither. Not because I don't like this pairing. We could get into the pairing. But I liked her dating the British Aristocrat. I thought that was like really unique, different, not like other girls. And I like him and Dakota Johnson. I know they were on again, off again, but to me, they're endgame. I like him and Dakota Johnson and I like Sophie Turner and Joe Jonas. I'm still at the restaurant. Oh, girl, get up. I'm still at the restaurant. Like I know like they got divorced. Like I understand.

24:23I love him. I love him. I just want to say I've always been like obsessed with Joe Jonas. No, you have. You've always been a Joe girl from day one. And if you read my book, you know that like he was the first famous person to follow me on Instagram. And DM'd you. yeah I also need to like write a second book to let everybody know that he unfollowed me and I'm not entirely sure when and I was really upset I feel like you guys had like a friendship I literally saw him like a little while ago and like I was like oh he unfollowed me I'm not saying hi to him and he came up to me I'm like but you unfollowed me I don't think people like no I'm sorry I don't and also like I feel like he has like a social media manager and like 1000 % he consciously unfollowed me just like thank you for making me feel better trying to make me feel better but he unfollowed me whatever I didn't mean to make this story about me it just kind of happens sometimes Yeah, I understand.

25:06Do you think that Sophie Turner is going to be, like, co-parenting with Goop? You know? Because that's what Dakota was doing. Right. Well, I mean, but Chris Martin's going to have to be co-parenting with Joe. Vice versa. Wait. Coldplay ex-Jodas. By the way, I'm going to say something big. Jonas Brothers are the Coldplay of our generation. By the way, I agree. I'm obsessed with this story. Also, can we talk about them for a second? Let's talk about Kevin releasing a solo song. No, obsessed finally. Finally. You know, I actually meant to text her husband. They are coming to the Prudential Center with All American Rejects.

25:32like they added new dates. Oh my God, you have to tell Ben. No, I will. I'll go. I will. I will. Ben wanted to go see the Jonas Brothers just so he could see the All American Rejects. And then I had to break the news to him. And then I told Ben he could just go to an All American Rejects concert. Well, I also had to break the news to him that they actually weren't opening. The last time they played New York, All American Rejects weren't opening. Yeah. Yeah, I have to say this tour, like the marketing, it's working. In the Crayab. And it's working. And like, I feel like they learned a lot because they've like chronically been on tour since they came back together.

25:56Yeah. And Happiness Begins tour rocked. We saw it. It was fun for me. And now we're older. In the suits. Like, amazing. Yeah, so cute. Then they had a second tour. I'm pretty sure it was kind of a flop. Their comeback has been very interesting. It's been filled with, like, lots of peaks and lots of valleys. Like, Sucker being the biggest song ever. And then I feel like they couldn't get arrested for a little while. Yeah. So I'm happy that this concert is really paying off for them. Same. So to the point, like, I'm buying tickets. I want to go. And also their choices in people to bring on has been incredible.

26:22Like, yes, Demi Lovato, for sure. Jordan Sparks love. They brought on Ben Rector and they sing brand new. I love that song. I love that song. I just know people in the audience were like, thought they were getting Temi Lovato and they got Ben Rector. I would have been happier with Ben Rector. Whoa. It's a Carnival Cruise commercial. Yeah. It's so good. So good. They brought up Bright Young. I feel really effective also in, I haven't really been keeping up like in the last couple of years with like new Jonas Brothers music. I like listen to the hits. I have added some to my liked. Oh, like what?

26:55celebrate tonight. That song is so good. So good. We made it through all of the years and all of the tears. And then also, Love Me to Heaven. Are you familiar? Oh, so good. Give me everything but it ain't enough. Gonna win a round like a stupid duck. So good. So good. So I was about to say Sophie Turner and Chris Martin allegedly went on a date. I actually feel like they're not compatible. I don't think they're compatible. I think she's just, you know, post-breakup, going out with people, All figuring out what she wants, what she likes, what she doesn't like. Yeah, I feel like he's, like, really low-key.

27:29Yeah. And, like, calm. And she's, like— And she feels, like, really fun. Yeah. And, like, wild. But that—I feel like wild has a negative connotation. I mean it in a positive way. I don't feel like I could see them—I could see them going on a date and, like, not liking each other. Like, her going home texting her friends being like, he was so weird. But, by the way, like, that is so annoying. Like, you go on one—like, a first date, and it's in the fucking news. Like, that is—I know you don't like to talk about your dating life publicly, but can I tell everybody the funniest thing that you told me?

27:54Which one? Oh yeah that one because that's not in play anymore. Okay Margo went on a date and they got what was it like cocktails? Cocktails. At a bar and like the seating set up was like a high top table. Not a high top. Oh so just regular top? Yeah regular top. And on one side was a booth and the other side was a stool. Correct. And the guy took the booth and like It feels a little faking gay. It feels a little faking gay and it is weird that the other chair was a stool and not a chair with the back. You should never go back to this place again. And also like you should offer to give it up. And by the way, we had played pickle, not to make matters worse, we had played pickle that day.

28:31Pickle ball? Pickle ball. Yeah, okay. And I had kind of like thrown out my back a little bit. So then I was injured. I was injured and then I was like sitting on the stool. And the stool had no back? No back. And I should have just said something like, hey, can I sit? No, you shouldn't have to say it. Okay, yeah, fine. I agree. I thought I was like maybe being bitchy. And then after sitting there for two hours with my back like that, I got up and I said to him, I was like, oh, my back is killing me. He didn't even pick up on it. Oh my God. And you never saw him again. I never saw him again. There are other reasons too.

28:58That's honestly, you don't need other reasons. I know, I agree. I didn't know if I was being like so picky. Yeah. But every person I told was like, that's crazy. That's insane. I know. That's such a bad note to start out. And I do have to say though now that like I've never really thought about that. And now when I go on dates, I like, it's like the first thing I think about when it's that sort of situation. How does the person react? And every person has been like, hey, do you want the booth? No, but also that means that he like sat down first. Oh, sorry. He got there first. Yeah. So he sat in the booth first.

29:26I got there. He was sitting in the booth. And like sometimes that'll happen and then they'll get up and be like, oh, you want the booth? And I always say, yeah, I do. Of course. But that didn't happen. That's really insane. At least he was on time if I'm like looking for, you know. Yeah. Some redeeming qualities. Are you ready for our next story? Yes. Haley Bieber went on a podcast and it was like, this is your random podcast. She must be friends with this guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's actually, like, a lot of cute clips going around. And one of the clips that's going around is her, like, being really open about what procedures she's had done.

29:56Yes. So apparently Haley Bieber confirmed she has never had Botox in her face, but she has revealed the treatments that she does get. So the Road Founder appeared on the In Your Dreams podcast Friday to discuss her parenting journey, her Nepo baby, internet theories, and, of course, all things beauty. She said, I don't have any Botox except in my jaw for TMJ, which, like, doesn't affect the way you look. Agreed. But I have no Botox in my face. I made a commitment to myself that I wasn't going to do any Botox until I was in my 30s. When I get there, I'll see if I even want to do it. So this is me finding out Hayley Bieber is younger than me.

30:24That's very interesting. Yeah, I mean, she got married at 21. Bieber also added...

30:32What'd she add? That she's following the lead of her mom, who's never gotten any wrinkle-relaxing injections. My mom does nothing to her skin, and she looks insane. But she said she's very diligent with her skincare routine, which, of course, she has to say is the founder of a skincare brand. There are a couple of treatments that she does that she really likes. I want to start doing them. Apparently it's so painful. PRP, which is platelet-rich plasma. Everyone loves that. They take blood from your arm. They spin it. And then they microneedle it back into your face. That's when you see pictures of celebrities that have blood in their face.

31:06Yeah, I think Kim does it. In addition to getting her own plasma needled back into her face, she's also a fan of PRF, platelet-rich fibrin injections, where they take your blood. It's called Easy Gel. Basically, they heat it and then cool it. It kind of makes your blood like a gel consistency, and then you inject it. So I've done that, which I love. I've injected into my smile lines. I've injected it under my eyes. The substance is from your own body, so you can trust it, unlike other injectables like Botox. I saw her say that, and that makes sense. It's kind of like making your own Botox out of your blood.

31:34Yeah. Genius. Yeah, so like... It's not like she's had nothing done, which makes me feel better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's so pretty. She is so gorgeous. One thing about me, like, if Haley Bieber... Has no fans. I'm dead. I've passed away. No, I'm so with you. I just love her. There's like nothing about her that I dislike. That I dislike. Like I think she is so cool. I think she is so like low-key funny. Funny. Funny. Like I just like want to like, I feel like you can. Like I want, like I need you to hang out with her. You know, not to be like the most annoying girl on the planet. I have. But like I want you to hang out with her in like a more relaxed setting.

32:11I felt really relaxed when I hung out with her. I feel like she felt relaxed too. Yeah. No, she likes you. she does she and she is so sweet and like not to like be that person but i have met her a couple times at these road events and like obviously every time like you have no fucking idea no and it's also her brand so like she's gonna be like so nice to everyone and like at the most recent one like we like made eye contact and she's like look i mean she's like and i'm like that can't be to me i like go like that and she and i was like no it was to me and then she's like oh my god hi how are you it's so good to see you and i was like i don't know if you're saying that to everyone but it feels really personal and like i'm just gonna pretend that you remember me and don't don't yuck my yum.

32:42Don't yuck my fucking yum. Because she's obviously here at this event. She knows everybody's been invited, so she's always saying that. And that's what celebrities do. They say, nice to see you. No, I know, but it felt like she remembered that we've met. She definitely did. And I think she remembered that I'm your sister. She definitely did. Like, I'm making it about you now, so you should agree. I just love her. I just love her. I just want to be her? In every sense of the word. Did you see she went to a concert over the weekend with Justin and he finally shaved his beard and everyone's so excited about it?

33:07And then Kendall was there, too? Yes. And did you see Kendall also opened the Vogue World fashion show wearing the life of a show girl. No, literally. Can we talk about Vogue World also? Yeah, we can. But like, what is it? Actually, I can't. No, that's why. I can't talk about Vogue World because I don't know what it is. I do have to say one mean thing. I love Gracie Abrams. Everyone knows I love her music. Bitch can't sing. It wasn't good. It wasn't even that outfit. That's not her fault because Vogue puts you in whatever, but every time I see a video of Gracie Abrams singing, it's bad. It's weird though because I've seen her many a time and she was good.

33:36I know, and I feel bad for her because she's never been the Nepo Baby allegations because like she can't sing and then it turns out that like Audrey wrote that whole song, you know? But like she can sing. She can sing. But can she? But I don't know. Also, you see that video of, oh, I watched this 100 times before I went to bed. The video of Hayley Bieber like getting there sitting down and saying hi to Miley Cyrus and then Gwyneth Paltrow. I did. I like loved it. Also like everyone's obsessed with Hayley. Like everyone wanted Hayley. Hayley is this generation's Gwyneth Paltrow. I feel like people aren't ready to talk about that yet.

34:02Oh. Because everyone loves Gwyneth now, right? But I remember what it was like to be a Gwyneth fan when everyone was hating Gwyneth. Conscious uncoupling, vagina smelling candles. Everything she did was like crazy whatever. But now everything Gwyneth used to do 10, 15 years ago is the standard of wellness. Like being gluten free, grain free. Totally. She was doing that stuff first. And Hailey gets so much hate. Like we talk about it all the time on the podcast. She's like literally the most hated woman. It's insane. It's insane. And she really is this generation's Gwyneth Paltrow. Oh, I'm aligned.

34:28I mean, I love her. Like seriously. What's your favorite road product, Sachi? Ooh.

34:36the glazing milk the glazing milk I would agree so Queen looked gorgeous on this podcast I feel like that outfit I need that shirt now it's just like a regular shirt you would see that shirt at like H &M and you would not buy it but now I need it are you ready for our third story that's actually really shaking me in my boots and I have to kind of like unthink and unlearn everything I've already known because Katy Perry and Justin Bieber Justin Trudeau have made their first public appearance they're celebrating her birthday in Paris and I don't know if you saw the video of them leaving the restaurant and the paparazzi going wild.

35:09I should. Unfortunately, I should. You should. And I've been really tough because I feel like Justin Trudeau is a big loser and so is Katy Perry. But so, it makes sense. First of all, I just, I loved, I saw the video. It was? I know. Did you see the video? I did. When she took the flowers? Yeah, maybe I think she took flowers. Yeah. But I was more so looking at them just getting into this van and I don't know, it was giving ship. Is he currently the Prime Minister? No. Is that stupid? No, it's not stupid because when I first heard this story, I was like, don't you have better things to do like run your country?

35:38Right. Well, actually, he doesn't have better things to do because he is not the active prime minister. Yes, he is. Some could say he's unemployed. He's a boy with no job. Got it. I mean, listen, I feel like Katy Perry is really in this era of like finding herself and like going on these, you know, side quests. Yeah. And Justin Trudeau is her current side quest. And you know what? All I have to say is justice for By the Grace of God. Bye. By the grace of God, there was no other way. Sure. I also like that she's 41 and he's 53. Like very age appropriate on both of their behalves. She was dating Orlando Bloom, who's like universally beloved.

36:18Everyone in Hollywood loves him. I forget what is he, like Lord of the Rings or one of those like Pirates of the Caribbean things. And I just feel like it's hard to date someone who's like so beloved and like you're kind of hated. Yeah, totally. So where does she go from here? Right. And she went like so sideways. Okay, ex-prime minister. But you know what? I'm telling you I feel like it's the beginning of a comeback for her I saw first of all she's also so skinny she's so skinny she's never looked better she's having like the Ozempic Steve Levine moment and and by the way my Ozempic Steve Levine moment is coming you bitches better be fucking ready I saw a clip of Kim like talking about how good Chris looks she's like I'm just so glad like now I know what to do like when it's my turn Steve Levine Steve Levine and Ozempic like same speak of Steve Levine Lindsay Lohan I watched Freakier Friday last night oh I haven't I've been meaning to how was so let me tell you it was so cute I feel like they really honored the old movie Jamie Lee Curtis is hilarious I guess it's a comedy she's hilarious did you know that?

37:12we knew Jamie Lee Curtis was funny yes isn't Jamie Lee Curtis do Sylvester? get out get out get the fuck out this is a pop culture podcast hold on get the fuck out Please get the fuck out. Who plays Sue Sylvester? How? Oh, only the hardest working woman in Hollywood, Jane fucking Lynch. Okay, can you see how I would maybe get out? Maybe get a little confused. You come to me on the day of my daughter's wedding. Are you kidding me? Sorry, sorry. I get confused sometimes. No, she's not. It's Jamie Lee Curtis. But I do think we thought, who's the one that's friends with Ariana Grande? Jennifer Coolidge.

38:07Wait, no. That's not who I'm thinking of. I'm telling you, Jamie Lee Curtis and Ariana Grande have a relationship, and Jamie Lee Curtis is funny. Anyway. Let's just move on. All I have to say, I actually thought the movie was really cute, except that the plot, obviously people are switching bodies. In the original movie, it's Lindsay Lohan and her mom. And in this movie, Lindsay Lohan switches bodies with her daughter. Jamie Curtis switches bodies with Lindsay Lohan's future stepdaughter and it's so confusing it's four people switching bodies it was too many people but I feel like they honored the original movie in such a funny way Chad Michael Murray was in it it was so hilarious they had the original music except they didn't play you're it you're the ultimate it's automatic I'm sure of it they played the other song what's the other one?

38:56you got it

39:00yeah just give me a second yeah okay you played the other one

39:08the other one do you know the other one uh i'm sure i'll know the other one when the band was called pink slip inevitably start singing it

39:19take me away I wanna shout out take me away away I mean you obviously don't know what to stop singing no no I do I do you're just like singing different verses so they should have sang Ultimate but other than that like I thought the movie was like really fabulous okay I watched it a little boring like it went on a little long in the tooth yeah but it was really good back to Steve Levine Katy Perry's and her Steve Levine-O's Empicara wow that was good and we all should strive to be there I yeah no I'm I mean I'm happy Because I was a hater, but seeing this picture. But Katy Perry has a way of just like posing with her boyfriends that makes me believe it's like the greatest.

39:53Let me see. Okay. So because look at this picture. Oh, like OTP. Right. Right. And if you ever see the picture of Katy Perry wearing that green seafoam dress at the Grammys when she was dating John Mayer and he's wearing the blue velvet suit. Like no two people have ever been suited for one another in a better, more impactful way. Right. So I just think she like poses well. Where is John Mayer? Dating an influencer. And it's not me. like it's devastating right I forgot about that yeah yeah we have two more stories okay about two of your boyfriends I feel like tell me if I'm right and I'm gonna cut to ads in a second but just give me a second are your boyfriends confirmed Hugh Jackman and Zac Efron like both of your greatest showmen Hugh Jackman and Miles Teller okay don't tell Kelly no I know I know and I love Kelly I do and so sounds like you don't no no sorry sorry no like I do love her I was gonna be like I like saw her over the summer cause you're like annoying yeah yeah No, I love her so much, and so I'm happy for her.

40:47Does she know that you want her man? No, I don't want her man. She listens to the toast, so Kelly, stay away from Margo. No, no, no. Literally, I feel like Kelly's used to everybody wanting her man. No, by the way, I saw her, and she was like, snatch her! Like, dead ass. No, she's an OG toaster. No, I love her, and for that, I'm literally so happy for you. I'm having a coccidinia flare-up. Where's your pillow? Satchy. Did you like my video I made this morning about my clue? Yeah, I was cracking up when I was watching this. I thought it was going to be hard, not everybody getting it. Obvious. Why the fuck would you have a satchel?

41:14I know, but like it was also giving briefcase. I don't know. Yeah, well, also corporate. No, but I was watching it. I was like, oh, God, this could go so many ways. I didn't know where you were going. And you liked it. I liked it. I thought it was funny. Today's episode is also brought to you by Bear Bells. So the protein bar that you know and love, I talk about all the time here at the toast that really got me through my post-ozymbic slump. They have launched a protein soda. So Bear Bells is known for their ability to strike a perfect balance between flavor, texture, and function. Well, the new protein soda brings that unique combination to the beverage.

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43:08Yeah. And so while you don't have to dedicate it to Zach, but your sister's there, so why wouldn't your brother be there? Right. So Dylan Efron has revealed why Zach has been absent from the Dancing with the Stars ballroom. And let me tell you, he's saying a whole bunch of nothing. I know. Dylan Efron can bet on his brother Zach Efron's support even from afar, according to E! News, who's buying this, and I'm not. Right. Dylan has two-stepped his way into week seven of Dancing with the Stars, but during his journey so far, his older brother has been consciously absent from the ballroom. As far as a Traders alum sees it, he still feels the love from his high school musical brother.

43:36Hey, he's doing his thing, Dylan told Extra. Fans of the show were perhaps more shocked to not see the brother for dedication week. The younger brother, Henry, was there. The sister was dancing. But he just says that, like, Zach is doing his thing. Busy. Busy, but supporting from afar. Okay, but here's the thing. I mean, obviously, I don't know what's going on with Zac Efron. Like, maybe he's, like, on location shooting something. I don't know. because from what I gather, I do think that they spend a lot of time together like doing like nature stuff. Right. They have that Netflix show, Zac Efron, Edge of the World or whatever.

44:13I do think they have like a pretty good relationship. I think they are together a lot, which is weird that he's not there, but like maybe he's like filming something. Like, I don't know. So I agree. I feel like up until recently, they had a good relationship because maybe like the dynamic of Zac being the star and Dylan being like, you know, subplot, that, you know, Zac was comfortable with that. But Dylan's a big star. You know, he was on The Tonight Show. Is that, like, what would happen with us if, like, I became really famous? Yeah, like, I wouldn't be able to handle it. Yeah, no. Like, they've had this dynamic, right?

44:42Yes. And it's easy for Zach to, like, be magnanimous and have his brother on his show because his brother wasn't threatening his position. I'm telling you something where it's going on. Or Zac Efron is, like, so, like, I don't know, he doesn't give me, like, the snob vibes. Maybe he just, like, doesn't want to be on Dancing with the Stars. He thinks it's lowbrow. But, like. But it's not, actually. It's the biggest show on TV. It's not. Everyone's talking about it. like huge stars go on it like but that's also where I'm like what does Zac Efron have going on right now? That's the other thing he's not sort of it's not he's like booked in busy as far as we know unless and he lives in LA like yeah no it's weird you won't convince me people are like no it's not weird you won't convince me that something like fishy is not going on or like listen I don't follow Zac Efron on social media so I don't really know his social media activity but like is he posting?

45:25I just feel like he's not text Dylan 21523 who are you voting for? because everyone knows I'm voting for Andy I vote Alex I vote Robert really he's so cute what do you know about Robert? Irwin? yeah I know all the things like what? he's also part of the Dead Dad Club oh that's why you vote for him yeah no because you're sticking the head like that yeah yeah yeah I'm sticking the head yeah I vote Whitney and I vote who am I forgetting? like Andy sometimes but part of me is like I think he wants to go home oh Margot's convinced like we're holding him there like hostage and he wants to go home. I don't think that's the case.

46:02I think he wants to do it. It's fun, blah, blah, blah. But I'm sure his knees hurt. His back hurts. It's hard. Okay, ageist. I'm not. He's wearing two knee braces in every fucking thing. Ageist queen. That's my sister. I know it's his birthday tomorrow, so now everyone's going to be trying to keep him there for his birthday. But I think a birthday gift would be like, hey, we love you. You can go home now. Did you see Jen Affleck? You know Jen from Dancing with the Stars. I know. I love her. I feel bad that everyone's forgetting she's on. I know. Well, she, I guess Ben, who's been watching Dancing with the Stars with me, has been talking about Dancing with the Stars on his podcast.

46:31So when they had John Stamos on last week, Ben just started talking about Dancing with the Stars and they were talking about Jen Affleck. And Jen saw it and posted it on her Instagram story. She was like so excited. Not Ben being on Jen's story. No, literally. And I responded she didn't answer. And also Ben was everywhere because of the John Stamos. I know. One thing, Jackie calls Ben Forrest Gump. Just finds himself in the middle of like historic events. It's so true. That's literally Ben. That's literally Ben. Not him being in the middle of like Selena. Remember Selena Gomez and Kidney? Francia.

46:55Yeah, yeah. What do you think happened with Selena and her kidney donor? Because you know the kidney donor wasn't at the wedding. No, I know. I don't, okay. I think that they really like kind of fucked up by like saying that they were like best friends when this happened. Oh, you think like they wrote a narrative that was not true. That was not true. Because I think if it was just like Selena really needed a kidney and like she, someone who was like an old friend, someone in her life like was a match and gave her a kidney. That's an amazing story. That doesn't mean necessarily that. And I'm sure she was well compensated for it.

47:23Like, I don't think she, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I don't think she gave her kidney for free. I'm sorry. I don't think she did. And so, like, I just want to say, like, you're actually not allowed to receive money for a. You're not? Yeah. Like, it has to be a donation. You go through a lot of, like, therapy, social work before you donate an organ to someone. You cannot be compensated financially. Oh. Even if it's, like, private? Yeah. Like a private donation? You're not allowed. Oh. So then, I don't know. Interesting. I don't know. I just think they made it seem like they were best friends.

47:52And so then everyone, anytime that it feels like a best friend should be involved, they're like, but where was Francia? Sure. Yes, I agree. Like, that's why one time when Selena said, like, her only real friend in the industry is Taylor, Francia was like, well, this hurts. Well, it's like, are you in the industry? Well, that too. But not inviting your kidney donor, the woman who saved your life, to your wedding. Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't know. Your wedding is like a celebration of your life. I just feel like if it was, like, such a big deal, like, why wouldn't Selena? Because Selena knows that that's going to be a big thing.

48:21so why wouldn't she just invite her? Like she knows people are going to say it. Yeah, because I think they have beef. That's why. But like about the kidney? Or do you think like Francia— Do you know that the theory is? No. And this is all alleged. Because I have to say like I— You don't mess with Selena. No. So this is all alleged, but apparently what people say online is that Selena got the kidney and then didn't treat her body in a way that you should after you receive a kidney. you know she vapes and she drinks liquor they say does she though? I don't know she's like not a party girl she does vape I saw her vaping on her wedding day so real so jealous so real stressful okay now can we talk about the metal story of your boyfriend yeah so we've been following Hugh Jackman and Sutton Foster's like very low key relationship like the timeline maybe is not great but they have made their first public appearance they walked a red carpet together nearly a year after going public with their romance so they had a very special date night over the weekend the Tony award winning actors made their red carpet couple debut at the L.A.

49:20premiere of his new film, Song Song Blue. Dressed in coordinating black outfits, or it's not coordinating, they just both were black. She wore a slip dress with spaghetti straps. He kept it crisp in a little black suit. He stars in a movie alongside Kate Hudson. I didn't know that. The two were playing real-life Milwaukee area couple Mike and Claire Sardina, who formed the band Lightning and Thunder in tribute to Neil Diamond. I have literally no idea what this movie's about. I didn't even know Kate Hudson had a new movie out. But he walked the carpet with his girl. I mean, I think them as a couple makes the most sense.

49:51Yeah, but what about Debra Ann Furness? Well, I mean, I never understood that. Relationship, why? And that's where I'm going to leave it. Why? It just— It was nice that, like, he had this, like, OG wife. For sure. No. Yeah, for sure. It just, like, really didn't make sense to me that, like, he started dating someone, like, 20, 30 years his senior when he was, like, 20. Well, it's admirable. That they never broke up, even though he became the biggest star in the world. No, no, no. By the way. Yeah. Is she that much older than him? Yeah. It's like a, it's a crazy. It's kind of like Aaron Taylor Johnson.

50:27Yeah. No, that's exactly what it is, Debra. Free Alan Taylor Johnson. Am I right? Free him.

50:38Oh, sorry. I'm being so dramatic. I take back everything I said. She's 69 and he's 57. That's not that crazy. Right. I thought it was literally 30 years. Yeah, no. I think people just like expected him to like get famous and dump her. No, and he didn't. Until he did. Until he did. I know, but they seemed so strong. Yeah, well, because despite everything, you saw his concert, right? Yes. The fact that Hugh Jackman's on tour is so weird to me. He's singing songs from his life. Random sporadic residencies at Radio City. I don't think he's leaving New York. He sang, I actually think he is leaving New York, first of all.

51:10He sang a bunch of songs from Greatest Showman. A bunch of songs from Les Mis, a bunch of songs from Music Man. and then it really was it was like a one man show but it was really like he like dances and sings and throws fire in the air and does like jump rope like it's like a whole thing as a consumer of like the greatest showman I was in heaven how many greatest showman songs did he sing? he sang the other side he sang from now on I do feel like he sang this is me even though it's like not his song to sing right exactly and a million dreams and then he had brought someone out to sing Never Enough with him or just No, just like he gave someone a moment.

51:47He needed a break. He needed a break. So yeah, he's dating, set, and foster. We know this, but they are out and about now. And while I'm not like crazy about the timeline of things, I am choosing to look past it because these two are perfect for each other. They are perfect for each other. Like they make so much sense. Like OTP. I, yeah, like love them. You went younger. Yeah, I did. Are you Charles or Josh? Charles. Yeah. So we always talk about this on the toast. Peter Herman. Yeah, of course. Like Gen Z, like people your age, like they want Josh. And, like, she chose, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert.

52:19Charles. Josh. Wait. Oh, did I not finish the show? Well, she chose Josh. She chose Josh? Yeah. By the way, I know. Oh, my God, dumb bitch. Yeah. Obviously, like, Charles was the one. Charles was the one. Oh, I love Charles. Peter Herman has acted in, like, all of your and our favorite shows. Like, if you could marry any version of Peter Herman, which one would it be? Is it Charles? Is it Peter himself? Mariska's husband? He plays the lawyer on Law & Order SVU. Right. He was also in Sex and the City. Like, which version? The Charles version. You know who has been, like, taking over my Before You page?

52:51Who? Edits of Mariska and... Peter? No. Stabler? Stabler. But, like, their friendship. I guess they both went on Amy Poehler's podcast. And it was, like, side-by-sides of it. That's really cute. And it was, like, they're so funny. Like, she just, like, he, like, was doing the podcast and she kept trying to FaceTime him. And she texted him, like, why the fuck aren't you answering my FaceTime? And then they, like, FaceTime. and she's like, are you naked? Like, they're just funny. My For You page is currently filled with edits to Taylor Swift's father figure of Desperate Housewives, mostly Marsha Cross.

53:23I will protect the family. Speaking of, I cannot believe we've done this whole podcast. We haven't talked about Tee Loas. And we haven't talked about Tee Loas and have you issued a statement yet? I don't know if I said it on the podcast, but on the podcast I did make fun of Margot for six. Like, she ranked her top five Tee Loas, Taylor Swift, Life of a Showgirl songs and she put Honey on there. Me and Jackie were like laughing at her because Honey's like the worst song. And you know what? I've had a change of heart. It's actually pretty good. Let's say on the count of three what we think the worst song on Tee La Less is.

53:47Wait, I need you to give me a second. Because it changes.

53:55Can I look for a second? Thank you. We're going to do our best and our worst. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's easy. Jump back in. Life of a show, girl. It's going to be... Honestly... Oh, okay. Three, two, one. Elizabeth Taylor. Okay. And the best song? three, two, one. The life of a showgirl. Okay. Yeah. So we're not aligned. So we're not aligned at all. Sachi, I know you have a busy day, so I am going to let you go, but I cannot thank you enough for starting this maternity leave with such pargy energy. I'm so happy to be here. Please promote. Do what you have to do. I will come back whenever you want, especially if it's in the studio.

54:32Sachi will be back. Because it couldn't be easier for me. Yeah, just like follow me on Instagram at Margoshri and TikTok and just like engage with my things and click my links and just like love me forever. And just like love me forever and like if you see my Reels videos that are ads, like please engage with them because they've been flopping. I'm not the begging for ad likes. No, it's been really bad. It's been really bad. Satchy, you should have told me. Yeah, help me. Guys, day one maternity leave, we kind of crushed. Crushed. Thank you so much for listening to the Toastlon Monday morning show where you deliver the fast life stories you need to do every Monday through Friday.

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