Club Cooke: Wednesday, May 13th, 2026

6:14Jackie Oshry:I don't know. I could see myself being so overcome at the Jesse Solomon Troubadour show. I actually could see myself sort of getting weak at the knees.

6:26Claudia Oshry:Yes, perhaps, because he is a modern-day Elvis Presley. But I just wonder what the circumstances were, because sometimes people think at concerts they're on drugs, or it's very hot. I didn't think that this person was on drugs. Or it's a mosh pit. No, no, no. Those, like, Jesse Solomon concerts don't go so hard. So obviously the person who was suffering had their own things going on. She had low blood sugar, obviously. Yes, so it's just, you know, it's not what you would think is happening at the Jesse Solomon show at the Troubadour.

6:54Jackie Oshry:Absolutely. you don't think she's rolling for the Jesse Solomon show maybe the Molly hit her sideways guess I'll start falling period yeah seriously funny stuff I also feel we'll get into in the recap but I do think that part of the fight last night was like largely Jesse Solomon's fault and nobody was pointing the finger at him why would he do like literally he's gassing up they kept doing flashbacks like the wedge between Carl and Kyle all summer and every time someone was telling Kyle like something Carl's upset about it was Jesse like Jesse was really upset you didn't invest Jesse was really upset you didn't say anything about his brother Jesse wrote out a whole email not Jesse I'm

7:35Claudia Oshry:sorry yeah I'm like what Carl

7:36Jackie Oshry:Carl was upset about that you didn't say invest in lover bar Carl was upset that you didn't say anything about his brother Carl wrote a whole email because he was so upset but then he did he literally was like starting stuff between the two of them the whole season I just want to say I blame Jesse Solomon for

7:48Claudia Oshry:last night oh no I fully blame lindsey hubbard period trying to hold a marriage counseling session in front of the whole house after a day of day drinking uh just a little bit about me i would never blame lindsey hubbard it doesn't change how i feel about lindsey hubbard like she's creating television she's doing her job but like if i'm just evaluating the situation like why was she pushing that conversation so hard and having a very hard time understanding the term management does not mean residency

8:18Jackie Oshry:yeah the residency maybe the residency is the friends we made along the way like he signed with

8:22Claudia Oshry:management no i actually really appreciated ben because he was the only one who could like have a cohesive thought but he was just saying like because i'm with the management i'm gonna be playing bigger better shows i actually will have to travel less i have one big show in vegas everyone's like he's doing a residency in vegas and he didn't tell his wife like what part of that was residency

8:43Jackie Oshry:so I assume our fifth and final story will be a summer house recap we have like five little

8:48Claudia Oshry:stories and then a separate summer house recap

8:50Jackie Oshry:I'm okay with that so we will save all of our thoughts and feelings for a lot of

8:56Claudia Oshry:thoughts oh my god last night I was actually wheezing in bed because I found the funniest twitter account called justice for Kyle Cook

9:06Jackie Oshry:and it's quite literally authored by Kyle Cook no it's like

9:10Claudia Oshry:literally like the club Chalamet version of the kyle cook fandom where it's like deranged takes from kyle cook's number one fan

9:19Jackie Oshry:and talking about the alleged rumor that i've never heard that kyle cook is hung like a horse

9:26Claudia Oshry:i was like i've never seen you laugh so hard i couldn't even speak and it was so stupid like the girl obviously hates amanda she actually has accused her of like trying to gone girl Kyle a year long a years long gone girl process that she almost got away with if she had just gotten divorced and not fucked it all up because she would have been like Kyle's victim and of course she club Chalamet thinks that that would be so like not the club cook club cook keeps calling her Amanda but to love like And then she called her Amanda Butt Cheeks. This is so stupid. This is so stupid.

10:08Jackie Oshry:That's funny.

10:09Claudia Oshry:Who is this deranged individual?

10:11Jackie Oshry:I was crying laughing. Oh, who's the deranged individual? Her name is Kyle Cook.

10:16Claudia Oshry:Kyle, Kylie Cook.

10:18Jackie Oshry:Kylie, Kylie on Therapist.

10:20Claudia Oshry:Kylie on Therapist, set your alarms noon today. Might have to move my mage game. Literally. I just want to say, like, I love Kylie.

10:26Jackie Oshry:I'm sorry I mean Kylie on platypus platypus as Dave Voronoi lovingly calls him that's such a

10:34Claudia Oshry:fucking sleigh no I can't wait and he gets amazing guests and like every guest he has I'm like oh that's gonna be a great episode but I'm I'm never like pulled it takes a lot for me to listen to someone's podcast considering we podcast all day like I'm a mother of three it just

10:47Jackie Oshry:I've cleared my schedule for this and you know she like doesn't do podcasts she but she's like dabbling she just did that kid cutty one yeah yeah and so whatever podcast she goes on like is going to get listened to. She doesn't need the platform. She brings the platform. So she's just choosing shows she wants to go on.

11:01Claudia Oshry:And like conversation she wants to have because like the Kid Cudi, when I saw some clips and stuff, but like it's not super swirly. Like the Jake Shane is going to have a swirly conversation, which is the, you know, it's like when Kim goes on those random podcasts to talk about like women's health or something. Like that's not what I'm clicking into or like criminal justice. But if she went on, I guess she did go and call her daddy and I don't think I listened, but you know what I'm saying.

11:24Jackie Oshry:Yeah.

11:24Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Well, maybe I'm just, she's not Kylie right now.

11:27Jackie Oshry:Such a flattering choice. I'm sure Jake Shane was just, like, flattered. Because, like, she chose. She's not promoting anything. He's the chosen one. It's a really big deal. I wonder if, no, you know what? Like, I just love that. I can't wait to watch.

11:43Claudia Oshry:Also, speaking of, like, not promoting anything but going on podcasts, like, I actually am starting to, like, believe the rumors about you. That, like, you're promoting something. Because I organically saw you on a podcast. I didn't even know you were. Like I knew you did two podcasts because like Amanda Hirsch is your friend and Susie Weiss launched a podcast. So like, OK, it was like, you know, when it rains, it pours. You just happened. It was a coincidence. But then I just saw you on a third podcast.

12:04Jackie Oshry:Yeah. And I feel like I really haven't made a big deal of the fact that I am one of the new faces of Dolkalax and their new Daily Gut Support Gummies. This is not sponsored. I mean, I am sponsored, but this episode is not. And I just feel like, yeah, being the face of a major, major brand, I have to do press. You're sort of like going on a press tour. yeah I'm sorry like I'm genuinely sorry but that's what happens when you're like a major

12:26Claudia Oshry:mover and shaker it's like Alex Earl is just sports illustrated what you are to don't relax

12:31Jackie Oshry:like going on a press tour it's a good analogy except that obviously like my cultural impact is much larger but yeah if you wanted to and I'm one of one actually I'm a don't relax face as well yeah but yours your campaign like hasn't started yet so like right now I'm the face

12:45Claudia Oshry:oh my god I wonder if I'm going on podcasts you probably are and I just want to say like get ready

12:50Jackie Oshry:the life of being like a brand spokesperson it's not easy obviously I make it look easy people look at me and they say oh my god when I was watching those clips I was like wow she's having an easy time and it's right you know I was sweating so much in that clip like I it I make it look easy and that's what I feel like is my responsibility as like one of the world's hardest jobs like I'm a podcaster and content creator you try doing it for a day I literally just got off of work and it's 519 try being an influencer for a day try it like when you go on

13:19Claudia Oshry:other podcasts like what do you like to talk about what do you like when do you feel like

13:23Jackie Oshry:when do you feel like you're in your flow state i'm right well obviously turn south like but like

13:29Claudia Oshry:what what facet of your life do you like when people talk about pop culture with you hate yeah

13:34Jackie Oshry:and that's my personal life as well if i see you in person don't try to ask me about last

13:39Claudia Oshry:next episode oh my god if i see you in person don't be like wait tell me what's going on with

13:43Jackie Oshry:oh oh if it's you in person and you ask me for an explanation it's like well the clock i i charge are like$3 ,000 an hour. So I hate when people ask me about pop culture. And what sucks is like my friend group, like the reason why they are my friends is like they love pop culture and they love Bravo. So whenever we get together, like that's what we do. And it's not my favorite topic of conversation, but I'm not going to bring like my baggage to the table. I'll just partake in the conversation and shut up. Oh, I didn't even tell you what I did yesterday. I played in a charity mahjong tournament.

14:09Jackie Oshry:It wasn't a tournament. It was just like, just an event.

14:12Claudia Oshry:So how did it work? I saw that you did that, but like, was it around Robin? Was there a winner?

14:17Jackie Oshry:So you had to sign up as a table, like a foursome. So it was just like a fun social way to play matchup. So like friendless losers need not apply? Correct. So you wouldn't have been invited. Wow. I'm kidding. You can't call me friendless.

14:29Claudia Oshry:You can't stick with me with that.

14:30Jackie Oshry:I'm kidding. I'm absolutely kidding.

14:32Claudia Oshry:I have a lot of friends. I feel like I'm on a zinger.

14:35Jackie Oshry:You have about 60, right?

14:36Claudia Oshry:I have a lot of great girlfriends.

14:37Jackie Oshry:Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I heard they're all buying you a Gucci purse for your birthday.

14:41Claudia Oshry:They would. They would.

14:42Jackie Oshry:Because they love you so much, yeah. So it was really fun. I wouldn't want it.

14:46Claudia Oshry:I wouldn't want it.

14:46Jackie Oshry:I take Mahjong like so seriously and like I play competitively and this was very much like a social affair. Well, it was nice to see everyone. I just wanted the games to like move quicker and everyone was like stopping for lunch and like chatting with friends and was like, can you bitches just stop eating and play? So then I did get a game together last night after bedtime because I hadn't gotten my fix. And I did get my fix.

15:07Claudia Oshry:Oh, good. I'm playing today.

15:08Jackie Oshry:So am I.

15:09Claudia Oshry:And tomorrow.

15:09Jackie Oshry:like the way I've neglected my job my children my dog my husband since I became like a full-blown mahjong addict um I don't even think it's necessarily a bad thing because I'm just like stimulating my mind and you know building friendships that'll last a lifetime yeah but I definitely do feel like the business is suffering my family is suffering like when I get off my phone like seriously like so much going on like emails not it like it's insane but like I don't

15:38Claudia Oshry:care well on the days that I don't play so I probably play like in a two hour window when it's like relatively quiet around here so I try and think of like what I'm doing that I that I'm not doing so I would say the things that suffer on the days that I maj like probably home cook dinner because whatever I didn't do in those two hours I'm doing in the following two hours you

15:56Jackie Oshry:know yeah and to be clear I'm 100 % kidding I actually slay I go two and a half hours during

16:01Claudia Oshry:nap time and it's like actually perfect and like I'm probably behind on some ads you know

16:06Jackie Oshry:probably got some content to shoot my house like isn't as clean as i would like it to be but that's

16:10Claudia Oshry:okay like i've missed out on probably 30 minutes of puttering around and putting away laundry i love puttering now i'm always puttering walking back and forth and back and forth and like moving things

16:20Jackie Oshry:and then like oh i had to bring that one scooping things like everything i used to go to the kitchen

16:24Claudia Oshry:come with me little pile here and then distributing the pile to the various rooms so some of that time

16:29Jackie Oshry:is lost and you know what i'm happy to lose it absolutely yeah well let's get into the stories

16:35Claudia Oshry:because we haven't even yet and we have a summer house recap and we have Dimash. So without further ado to do to do, here are the Fast Five Stories that you do need to know.

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21:30Claudia Oshry:Our first story, get out the whiteboard. We're talking about it. My first period. We're talking about it in a formal capacity. Alex Earl dodges a question about Alex Cooper feud live on today's show. So Alex Earl is on a press tour right now for her one of four Sports Illustrated covers. and on the Today Show yesterday, Craig Melvin was feeling brave. And I just want to say, Craig, thank you. No, that was wild from Craig because you could, let me tell you about the exchange, but you could tell that she did not know that he was going to ask this and she was not happy.

22:04Jackie Oshry:I also feel like he didn't really know what he was talking about. He was just like, he knew he had to ask this question.

22:11Claudia Oshry:He wouldn't have asked the question because like he would know that it's like, you know, she doesn't want to talk about it. So they probably just told him to do it and he didn't know it was a big deal.

22:19Jackie Oshry:He couldn't even say, and I actually found it quite misogynistic. Like Craig who? Like he couldn't even say Alex Cooper's name.

22:24Claudia Oshry:They definitely had like an agreement for her to go on that you could not ask about Alex Cooper. So then like the producers probably wrote him this question in a roundabout way. That's what I don't think it was out of disrespect. I think it was like. It was giving misogyny. It's like. It was giving Alex Cooper is a no go. Got it. The words. So this is what Craig said. There's been this back and forth between you and another internet personality, a podcaster as well. And there seems to be a bit of online beef there. What's actually happening? What's really going on?

22:52Jackie Oshry:So boomer. Like, so boomer. Of all the places, we're all waiting for her. We're like, is it going to be TikTok? Is it going to be Get Reale? Is it going to be Netflix? It ain't going to be the Today Show, first of all. So while I respect Craig's delusional hustle, I didn't expect much from her.

23:08Claudia Oshry:I actually don't even think. I think they set Craig up, the producers, because nobody who knows anything about the situation would have asked the question on her big day. And this was her response. You could tell she was pissed. She said, you know, well, I'm trying to keep things pretty positive today. We don't actually have that much time here, honestly. And also, it's like, why ruin such a good day with something not so great? Let's keep the positive vibes going.

23:28Jackie Oshry:And Craig could not be deterred.

23:30Claudia Oshry:He kept going. He hit her with a follow-up. He asked if there was legitimate contentiousness or if the beef had been exaggerated. and then she like sarcastically said no it's exaggerated I love everyone and then Craig said

23:43Jackie Oshry:Craig said he wasn't buying it he's he's a smart cookie oh my god Craig is like so crazy yeah I

23:49Claudia Oshry:actually don't think that he like knew that much about the situation because if he did he would never he looks so silly he kind of looks like crazy I know but how do you have Alex Earl on right now and not ask about it but I am sure that her team said you cannot talk about it so this is was their solution the today show and i'm sure she's pissed about it yeah it's just funny that

24:11Jackie Oshry:like the today show is like always running out of time they're cutting people off they're cutting to commercial but meanwhile they had time for this two follow-ups yeah i understand all parties

24:18Claudia Oshry:here but like i don't know how she could expect to not be asked about it like two weeks after the biggest news in the country um but i'm sure her pr team was like we're not coming on if you're gonna ask about it so they said we won't ask about it and then they crossed her i actually

24:31Jackie Oshry:don't feel like she had a choice as to whether or not she could go on the show because like all the before cover stars went on the Today Show. And like, it's just a prerequisite that you have to do the press associated. So I'm sure they said like, you know, friendly publicists, like, hey, let's not go here. And I honestly wouldn't have expected that they would have, like, but they did.

24:49Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Also, did you see Dave's latest Tea by the Sea talking about how he isn't thrilled with how Alex has handled this so far? Sort of like skirting around the issue. That's when he brought Platypus into it. yeah um what are your thoughts my thoughts are that like once again i'm deeply biased

25:11Jackie Oshry:so like i just ride for alex earl and like she wins she's my queen but if i were to like take my biased hat off which i don't want to but i'm just gonna temporarily set it down and put it back on like and i think that the internet is also having the same thing as me like we just like alex earl and so we like we're rooting for her yeah but like can you just say it it's like getting

25:32Claudia Oshry:annoying yeah I think that and Dave said this he was like I'm not like in my world like if you start a fight with someone like you better come correct you better say with your whole chest like Mimi in the parking lot and so her like you know just like throwing these like darts and like running away is not like the school that he comes from and and not for me either like and and I've said that like the way that she's handling it is so I guess Gen Z like it's just every move is just not what I would expect but I do think it's working for her and I don't know if it's because the moves are good or just she has so much goodwill that it doesn't matter what she does that's what it is but um it is it is working it's not my style of feuding you know yeah and I guess it's not Alex Cooper's either because she was sort of like a let's let you know let's confront one another yeah and I

26:20Jackie Oshry:think that Alex Cooper no one will give her the credit because we're just like the internet's in an I hate Alex Cooper mode. But she did sort of like shut the whole thing down. She like posted this sort of aggressive video wanting a response and she didn't get one. And like, if you were to look at it more and I'm not, I'm not looking at it more unbiased, but if you were, it does look like Alex early sort of ran scared. Now I know everyone's saying like, she's going to put it on her show and it's like, maybe she will. But like for now, can you just tell us?

26:48Claudia Oshry:Also like, as long as she doesn't say what happened, like, you know, Alex Cooper remains unchallenged. Yeah. And, you know, for a minute there, it felt like there was a singing ship over there. But I don't know. With Alex Cooper. With Alex Cooper. But, like, she's still doing her podcast. Like, the more time goes by, the more people, like, move on from it. I feel like she's sort of, like, dip, dock, dodge, dived. Absolutely. Dived from this. And she's, like, and she's staying afloat. And this is not going to take her down. And so.

27:14Jackie Oshry:No.

27:14Claudia Oshry:Now, whatever comes out on Netflix.

27:16Jackie Oshry:And this big, mysterious Vanity Fair article, which, like, hasn't come out yet.

27:20Claudia Oshry:Right. Which, so, until those things happen, like, She's afloat. And I do think the more that time goes on, the less power those things have. Power, absolutely. That's what I think.

27:30Jackie Oshry:I agree. And I think now with like the perspective of hindsight, even people who were like eating it up at the time, like she did eat the fuck out of Brianna Chicken Fry. Like, I'm sorry. She literally ate her up, chewed her up, and spit her the fuck out. Yeah. So at the time, everybody was like, it's weird that she's sending the messages. But now let's all take a look back. Like, no, like Brianna Chicken Fry inserted herself right in the middle of it. and Alex Cooper's like, what are you talking about? We have this actually quite long history of me being lovely and gracious to you. What is this?

27:58Claudia Oshry:And if I'm chicken fry, I'm mad at my friend Earl for leaving me out to dry. Absolutely. Because she looks stupid.

28:07Jackie Oshry:Yeah, but she shouldn't have put herself in the middle of it anyway. I think she probably did that without Alex Earl's permission. So now it's like, I don't have to come rescue you. You put yourself here.

28:14Claudia Oshry:Yeah, yeah.

28:18Claudia Oshry:Yeah, what else was Dave saying? I forget. But he also said that he wanted to go on Platypus to promote his book. But Jake Shane wouldn't have him on. Like he said he declined. That was at the end. That's when he started. I don't think he has like beef necessarily with Jake Shane. But he was saying like Jake Shane is so brand safe. I don't know how Jake Shane got involved in this. And then.

28:36Jackie Oshry:And also I don't think Jake Shane is brand safe. No Claudia.

28:40Claudia Oshry:He is.

28:41Jackie Oshry:Yeah but brand safe implies like boring and like bad takes.

28:44Claudia Oshry:No like you can be brand safe and be cool. Like some people can do it. it's very hard because I feel like

28:50Jackie Oshry:brand safe quickly becomes like not entertaining.

28:54Claudia Oshry:Yeah but brand safe can also just be like great hasn't had controversy yet everybody loves them popular and also talented. It could be talented doesn't necessarily mean untalented

29:05Jackie Oshry:but like Jake Shane does have I mean sorry I'm just let me acknowledge my bias to like I'll defend Jake Shane till I die but he does have like controversy

29:13Claudia Oshry:the little things they have not bubbled up to the surface in any meaningful way.

29:19Jackie Oshry:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

29:20Claudia Oshry:So I guess, yeah, Dave wanted to go on, like, or his team was putting out podcasts for when his book comes out, and he was like, what one said he'll go on, and he, I guess, was interested in Jake Shane, and then Jake Shane didn't, like, want to do it. Well, I don't know if Jake Shane's refusal

29:37Jackie Oshry:of Dave Portnoy has anything to do with Dave being too, like, radioactive, or Alex Earl.

29:45Claudia Oshry:But Dave Portnoy and Alex Earl are fine. and he has not yeah according to Dave no but he has not taken a position and in some breaths he's critical of Earl and in some breaths he's critical of Cooper I feel like he's really played the fence and played it well while still being a very interesting commentator yes

30:02Jackie Oshry:but he is Alex Cooper's like friend, mentor, confidant, whatever so like yeah he's not gonna go on he's not gonna go on Jake's podcast like yeah no I understand I could see Jake declining it like in defense of Alex Earl even though yeah he hasn't done anything i don't think alex or loves dave portnoy to be honest

30:20Claudia Oshry:i think they're fine i don't think he said anything that he wouldn't be able to look her in

30:24Jackie Oshry:the eye no for sure but like when you're coming up with that conclusion like based on what dave says like dave's like we're great yeah she comes apart no but even in when he's talking about the

30:34Claudia Oshry:situation i've not heard anything like unkind he keeps saying like she's the girl's girl and everybody loves like positive things about her i don't know i don't think it's become negative

30:46Jackie Oshry:no but I think Alex Earl hates state porn and I also think like Alex Earl probably hates state porn really yeah just a feeling just a feeling

30:55Claudia Oshry:interesting well I wonder what podcasts he will go on for his book I want to read his book cancel me if you can it's the story of Barstool and it's a great title

31:05Jackie Oshry:it's a great title but I don't know if I'm going to read it I think I will I can barely pick up Strangers Bell Burden

31:11Claudia Oshry:I know I think it will be funny

31:14Jackie Oshry:yeah no I'm sure it'll be interesting but like I just don't know if I'm personally gonna read it

31:18Claudia Oshry:I think I'm gonna give it a shot there was something else coming out that I wanna read are you gonna read Lena Dunham's book

31:24Jackie Oshry:you know what I really want to

31:27Claudia Oshry:I know she's really doing the most I'm really like all this like propaganda I'm starting to forget

31:36Jackie Oshry:it's working on me I was talking about that I'm not skinny me off at that like I think that if I were to be able like if I were to be able to take off my I hate Lena Dunham goggles, I'd probably be her number one fan. And like, I would be defending her like I defend Blake Lively, like for real. Because the thing is, like so much of the Lena Dunham hate is forced. It's because she's fat. Like, sorry. Like, people hate fat people. So like, it's like she gets more hate for the things that people hate her for. It's like outsized. I believe it's largely rooted in fat phobia, not to be like so woke, but it's true.

32:06Jackie Oshry:I personally don't care that she's fat.

32:07Claudia Oshry:But people loved her for a really long time.

32:10Jackie Oshry:Yeah, yeah, yeah. They did. But like, you know, you can only tolerate Society only tolerates Fatty for so long. So you think that she expired? Absolutely. Okay. Now, my hate of her obviously has nothing to do with her weight because I would never. It's more so just to do with like her insides.

32:25Claudia Oshry:Mm-hmm.

32:26Jackie Oshry:But I do sort of want to read the book. She's talented. I'm very complicated. She's very talented. I have complicated feelings. Yeah. Yeah, I have complicated feelings. Ben Platt released

32:34Claudia Oshry:an amazing song. I guess I have to listen to it, you know?

32:38Jackie Oshry:Yeah, of course. I'm just like afraid that like a book is so personal. like Ben Platt can release a song and I'll listen to it and I'll still hate Ben Platt but I'll love the song if you read someone's book that's like their insides like yeah you have if you love the book you love the person yeah yeah and I'm afraid to start loving I really am loving Lena I don't know if I can do it I feel like you could I'm fine with that you know sometimes you have your guilty pleasure yeah like I think she might be guilty pleasure honestly that's fine don't like but I I don't know if she's my guilty pleasure because I don't even let myself be curious.

33:12Jackie Oshry:Like I don't even let myself go there.

33:15Claudia Oshry:Don't deny yourself, you know, because who are you hurting? She doesn't care. You're hurting yourself.

33:20Jackie Oshry:Postpartum, like one of the shows we started was Girls. Ben had never seen it. And like I obviously watched it once when it was out. And people talk about it prolifically, like it's the sex in the city. And like it kind of is.

33:34Claudia Oshry:To a point.

33:35Jackie Oshry:Of course. It's like it's Brooklyn.

33:37Claudia Oshry:maybe like no maybe to like the end of the second season but then it got really bad and it's like

33:43Jackie Oshry:indie and it's not like it's not fabulous at all like the apartments are dirty and the clothes are ugly like it's not like a ratty shirt with holes in it like a hundred percent and it's like it's

33:53Claudia Oshry:television you know and it's like i sure wear a shirt with holes in it just like i don't care what you wear to sleep but like i'm watching television even jessa who is like the quintessential

34:03Jackie Oshry:like fabulous character like she's the one with you know worldly wisdom and travel and clothes

34:08Claudia Oshry:like it's all just like gray like yeah no and it's like if jessa is the fabulous character that explains why i don't like the show yeah because that's like not my idea of fabulous i just want to warn everyone that i'm definitely

34:23Jackie Oshry:like dangerously close to entering you know what i'm gonna i give you my support okay you know that actually really helps because i do feel like fear of judgment from you like it has stopped me

34:31Claudia Oshry:from even picking up the book you know what i mean be curious it's also good to like like just engage with things even if you wind up not liking it's just good to like engage with things not everything has to be like so you know an echo chamber you're right you're right okay so now i have two books to read oh great i don't think you're gonna read strangers i am okay i am okay it's okay if you don't there's just like a lot going on i gave my recap to the redhead so like I have closed that chapter of poppers.

35:02Jackie Oshry:I want to. Like I have a desire. And it's just been like a lot going on with pop culture that like when I get into bed at night, like I have to watch stuff so I can talk about it on the toast.

35:10Claudia Oshry:I know. Also.

35:11Jackie Oshry:My nights are not mine anymore.

35:13Claudia Oshry:Have you heard about this Trad Wife book yesteryear?

35:18Jackie Oshry:Sounds familiar.

35:19Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Rebecca chose it for next month for the Redheads, which is like good because it's buzzy and everyone's talking about it, but I know I'm going to hate it. We talked about it.

35:26Jackie Oshry:Yeah, because it's like the Trad Wife life is not the life that you think it is.

35:29Claudia Oshry:And it's like making fun of influencers and like tradwifes and like ballerina. It's like definitely anti-ballerina form. Basically, it's like a tradwife influencer like wakes up in 1885 and actually has to live the life.

35:38Jackie Oshry:Oh God.

35:39Claudia Oshry:Yeah, obviously she's like glamorized like a horrible thing. What she's cosplaying. Like I could throw up.

35:44Jackie Oshry:Yeah, yeah.

35:45Claudia Oshry:And like from the reviews I've read, like it's very like, you know, anti and like makes a mockery. So check us out on the Redheads, but also already Anne Hathaway, it's being turned into a movie and Anne Hathaway is playing the drag wife.

35:59Jackie Oshry:Oh my God. She is the new Daisy Edgar Jones. Like, oh, there's a book? Let's call Anne. Daisy's sort of been left in the dust.

36:05Claudia Oshry:Well, these are like older characters. And like the two of them, one of them could play the younger version. Younger version.

36:11Jackie Oshry:I love that.

36:11Claudia Oshry:There's space for both.

36:12Jackie Oshry:Yeah.

36:14Claudia Oshry:Okay, let's get into our next story. Because again, like it's only story number two. I don't know. Wow, that's really crazy. Olivia Jade launches her own beauty brand. So Olivia Jade has launched her brand called Opecola.

36:27Jackie Oshry:Opicola.

36:28Claudia Oshry:Opicola, thank you. Salma. I only watch the videos without sound. So Opicola, on May 12th, she debuted her hero product, the Bronze and Glow Balm, which she has been teasing on social media for the past few days. She spoke to People Magazine exclusively, saying, I'm just so nervous to put something out for the first time, and I really want it to be perfect. She said that this product was roughly five years in the making. Five years ago, she started the process of building a brand in uh with a manufacturer i think in california and it was just like not going well and she like scrapped the whole project and then after years of back and forth she found a manufacturer in south korea that she was able to work with um and she has like her dream products of a dual ended it's like a little contour stick like a bronzing stick and a highlighting stick but it's dual ended each one has two sides and there's three different shades so one thing about me is i'm an

37:24Jackie Oshry:OG Olivia Jade fan. I used to watch her YouTube videos. I never turned on her in the college admissions scandal. Like I I've always been ride or fucking die. Like she just wanted to get an education. I'm like just sorry I don't give a fuck honestly. I just don't. Yeah. And I will ride for her probably till the day like she and I both die. But actually I have nothing in common with her. She's one pound so young and has perfect skin. And so when I see her do her makeup tutorials I was like, oh, that's fun to watch. I'm not picking anything up because I need layers and layers and layers of foundation and concealer cake ton.

37:58Jackie Oshry:So I actually feel like this product is not for me because she's such like a sheer natural glam girly, which is like what the young kids love now. And it's like, yeah, it's easy to love that when you're young. Yeah. Sorry, I need more. I need, you know, old lady makeup. Well, she did say her mother tried it and she loves the product. Once again, Lori Loughlin, like a perfect angel among us. No offense. like you and I have more needs than Lori Loughlin like she has a perfect face like she went to jail and she still looks better than me like sorry so yeah while these are people I deeply love and admire when it comes to actually following trends I am watching the tutorials of like beat down ugly old ladies with wrinkly skin and like facial hair not the Loughlin Jade family unfortunately but I love them and I'll purchase it because I'm a supporter yeah I it's a cute

38:45Claudia Oshry:little product she said you know throw it in your bag just give a little spritz by the way does anyone ever do that like or maybe i just like maybe my lifestyle right now i'm not like touching up in the bathroom oh i am what do you mean i leave the house and i come back i oh no my purse has a bronzer a blush and a brush and when do you and when do you redo it so i do my makeup in the

39:05Jackie Oshry:mornings and then i have like two hours before i actually leave the house where i'm like doing breakfast and like you know doing a lot of stuff then i get here i touch up but that's because i'm on camera and then if i'm out for the day my purse like in the bathroom i do touch up bronzer and blush always it like doesn't stay on my face powder both creamy powder powder blush bronzer

39:25Claudia Oshry:road like creamy blush i guess i could add a little more blush throughout the day bringing

39:30Jackie Oshry:one of those road it's called a pocket blush because it's supposed to stay in your pocket for lip and cheek touch up it's kind of parchy i don't know it doesn't appeal to me right now

39:40Claudia Oshry:I like to put on more makeup. I just sort of put it on in the morning and, you know, it.

39:44Jackie Oshry:Like, that's crazy to me that you put it on in the morning and that's it.

39:47Claudia Oshry:But like what I need at four o 'clock when I'm just like running around.

39:50Jackie Oshry:Oh, no, no. I don't need it at four. I'm saying if I have stuff to do, like if I front facing events.

39:55Claudia Oshry:From a pile of stuff.

39:58Jackie Oshry:Correct.

39:59Claudia Oshry:Well, this is cute. Oh, Piccolo. Did she say why she called it that?

40:03Jackie Oshry:Yes. Such a fucking slay. You know what it means? In like Italian or some shit. And like this is why my brand I need to find like it could never be called this. Ready? It's called Petite. O dot Petite. It's giving like no. Oh, Piccola means petite in like some language. It just means like you're fat and I'm skinny. Like that's basically what she said.

40:24Claudia Oshry:And the O dot.

40:27Jackie Oshry:Is there a dot?

40:28Claudia Oshry:Yeah, it's O period Piccola.

40:31Jackie Oshry:Is that just the Instagram username? No, no, no.

40:33Claudia Oshry:Everywhere on this article. Oh, Piccola.

40:36Jackie Oshry:I saw a video of her talking about that it means petite. and it's like a little petite little makeup thing founder opicola odot picola yeah it's like very um yeah i saw um acquired style and page lorenz like wearing it it's like yeah exactly exactly like perfect but acquired and page need makeup too claudia not in the way

41:01Claudia Oshry:that i do yeah but also what's interesting is that she funded this herself it's not like a a big venture firm.

41:09Jackie Oshry:Sephora, yeah.

41:10Claudia Oshry:So it's an interesting move for her considering I felt like she was retired, you know? She like, I know.

41:16Jackie Oshry:And who would want to get back? Because like the beauty space already, the comments, it's overpriced, cheap packaging, looks like Pixie. Like who the fuck would voluntarily like put themselves in this world? Like she doesn't have to.

41:29Claudia Oshry:Yeah, she doesn't.

41:30Jackie Oshry:I think she genuinely loves makeup. Like this is a true labor of love. And so like that's admirable. but like I can't imagine somebody wanting to get back into this game.

41:38Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Yeah.

41:39Jackie Oshry:She made it out with her life.

41:40Claudia Oshry:It sort of is a surprising move. Like, cause she doesn't need to work this hard, especially if she's not being funded by like one of these real activist firms that does brands for people. Venture capital. Like why putting all your money into this?

41:54Jackie Oshry:No clue. Well,

41:56Claudia Oshry:are you ready for our next story? I am. A dancing with the stars cast member has been revealed. So as reported, We have Maura, Rob, Sierra Miller, and now Savannah Bananas, Jackson Olsen.

42:12Jackie Oshry:It's actually such a good casting. Yes.

42:14Claudia Oshry:So the Savannah Bananas are a minor league baseball team that go viral all the time for videos and dances that they do. They've like incorporated like a bunch of like dancing and choreography.

42:24Jackie Oshry:I don't know if they ever play baseball.

42:26Claudia Oshry:They do. They do.

42:29Jackie Oshry:But they're literally a traveling performer.

42:31Claudia Oshry:But they're also like, yeah, the founders of the team, they mix standard baseball with additional entertainment, incorporating choreographed, dance moves, sing-alongs, and even a player taking the field in stills. Yeah, and they have amazing content that goes viral. And Jackson is like their number one dancer.

42:48Jackie Oshry:But is he the one who did the backflip on TV and broke his neck? Do you remember that? I remember that.

42:55Claudia Oshry:I don't think, I don't know.

42:56Jackie Oshry:I actually think it was him. Can we get a fact check on whether or not that was Jackson? yeah because remember when we were talking about that like that story pained me deeply

43:05Claudia Oshry:it was really hard but in general i don't follow the savannah bananas but sometimes they come up for me like i love what they do i think it's like so joyful family friendly it's joyful people

43:13Jackie Oshry:fucking love them i actually saw the founder on a podcast it was like an entrepreneur's podcast because this company is like worth close to a billion dollars like they crush and they were like asking all these entrepreneur questions he was like who gives a fuck like i just he's like he doesn't really raise the price of his tickets it's always going to remain like this family friendly affordable he doesn't care if they go you know get a billion dollar exit he was like i'm just having the time of my life he was like this crazy guy wearing like a yellow blazer and a yellow hat like it's really sweet and i actually think it's an amazing casting for dancing with the stars it brings up family friendly energy they're dancers also i think he would be a really good

43:44Claudia Oshry:dancer i think people would like him and his personality not that i know him but like it just is a really good energy and i think he'll go far and i'm excited i want more people to know about savannah bananas and also i want to know more about myself i only like passively see them sometimes i

43:57Jackie Oshry:I can't believe you have never been. That's something you would go to with your kids.

44:01Claudia Oshry:But they're in Savannah.

44:03Jackie Oshry:But they travel, right? They do shows, literally at stadiums.

44:06Claudia Oshry:So they play the minor, I need to find the minor Florida team.

44:10Jackie Oshry:I love that the minor leagues are getting their moment.

44:13Claudia Oshry:They deserve it. They deserve it.

44:19Jackie Oshry:Also, they have a really large fan base, and I think that'll be good for votes and stuff.

44:24Claudia Oshry:Yeah. No, I think it's great. Very cool. Me too. So out of the box thinking.

44:28Jackie Oshry:Agreed.

44:30Claudia Oshry:Are you ready for our fourth story?

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47:25Claudia Oshry:Thank you. Such dirt. And welcome. And tert G one. Our, our sponsor. Our fourth story, Katy Perry mourns, Josh Groban romance after he announces his engagement. So Katy Perry, just, I don't know, speaking to me directly. Yeah. She posted a video of herself drinking alongside the news of Josh Groban and his fiance getting engaged with the song The One Who Got Away playing.

47:53Jackie Oshry:So I'm not sure if I knew on a conscious level that the one that got away was about Josh Groban. I'm not even sure if I knew that these two dated.

47:59Claudia Oshry:I knew that they dated.

48:00Jackie Oshry:That devastates me that I've been walking this earth without this information.

48:04Claudia Oshry:No, I know. But it's like once you know it, then it just hurts so bad that they didn't wind up together.

48:09Jackie Oshry:Obviously. Think of the music.

48:10Claudia Oshry:it really really hurts and like the fact that he's the one that got away and like she's like bummed that he's engaged like it's not too late for them i do want to say i think the video is

48:22Jackie Oshry:insanely inappropriate and beyond crazy thing to post when you yourself are in a long like serious relationship with a former prime minister uh and josh groban who literally you haven't been with in 20 years is now engaged like beyond inappropriate but i just want to say like you only post a video

48:39Claudia Oshry:like this when you seriously don't give a fuck about the guy oh yeah oh no this just confirms like these two are never getting back she does not care what he thinks of her how embarrassing this is because like if you actually held a candle for someone like you would not behave this way like this is what you do when you actually don't give any fucks absolutely positively this like this trope of her him and the one that got away like does remind me of taylor taylor lautner and back to december where like that's her one that got away but it's like i'm sorry i just don't like

49:07Jackie Oshry:you you know yeah it's a great analogy too because both back to december and the one that got away are respectively each of those artists like most devastating songs like it's funny that we're being so light about one of the saddest songs ever the one that got away is like a true heart wrencher

49:22Claudia Oshry:but it is but it's like you're an amazing person in another life i would be your girl i just don't like you ugly you know i i can't yeah i can't love you like you are the one that got away i let you get away because i don't like your ass but back to the same back to december like no back to december

49:36Jackie Oshry:was like I kind of like gave you no time of day and now when I look back on that like that was

49:41Claudia Oshry:wrong for sure but like if I could do it again I would do it the same way because I don't like you

49:47Jackie Oshry:no but she's saying in back December like she wants to go back to December so she can redo it because I think she actually realized like never mind I actually do like no so she could dump him again she wants to go no way do you think the Lautners are going to be at Taylor and Travis's

50:01Claudia Oshry:wedding oh yeah one of my favorite games to play he did the backflip one of my favorite games play

50:07Jackie Oshry:like who will be at taylor and travis's wedding because also when she was on the graham norton show she very much was like it's a free for all everyone's invited but i don't think that's true and i think just because you were invited to the arrows tour literally everyone was invited to the

50:17Claudia Oshry:i don't think no but on stage at the arrows tour yeah yeah if you were at the tent everyone's at the tent but if you were on stage doing a backflip and you like literally almost broke your back for the hours tour and you're in the music video like i think you're invited and you're back to december

50:31Jackie Oshry:Well that would mean that there That would mean Florence Welsh Which I do feel like she would be there Do you think Marcus Mumford? Sure You know what? I wonder if this is on Polymarket Phoebe Bridgers Phoebe Bridgers Hold on I wonder if it's on Polymarket Gracie

50:48Claudia Oshry:Gracie Abrams

50:50Jackie Oshry:Definitely Sabrina

50:51Claudia Oshry:Oh maybe she'll bring a new boyfriend Okay wait here look

50:54Jackie Oshry:Who will attend Taylor and Travis' wedding? Jack Antonoff 94 % I feel like yeah Patrick and Brittany Mahomes are also up there Selena Gomez Sabrina Carpenter all like 80 % Max Martin are people okay of course

51:05Claudia Oshry:and Shellbach

51:06Jackie Oshry:no way

51:07Claudia Oshry:they did there's a co-worker you invite your co-workers to your wedding I invited you Alana Del Rey

51:13Jackie Oshry:Alana Haim that's mean Blake Lively I love that you can predict this stuff on Polymarket like seriously finally putting my my skills

51:22Claudia Oshry:Polymarket

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51:28Claudia Oshry:ooh I love that Okay, listen to this.

51:30Jackie Oshry:Okay, I'm listening.

51:31Claudia Oshry:I'm so glad you made time to see me.

51:34Jackie Oshry:Oh, sorry. I didn't realize I was still reading this. I didn't realize we were doing a performance.

51:37Claudia Oshry:How's life? Okay, tell me how's your family? Okay, let's get to the chorus. I haven't seen you in a while. Okay, see, this is it. This is it. So this is me swallowing my pride standing in front of you saying I'm sorry for that night. And I go back to December all the time. It turns out freedom ain't nothing but missing you. wishing I'd realized what I had when you were mine. I'd go back to December, turn around and make it all right. I'd go back to December all the time. Then at the end of the song, she says, I'd go back to December, turn around and make it all right. I'd go back to December, turn around and change my own mind.

52:15Jackie Oshry:Yeah, right. But. Because in December she said, I don't like you, but she wants to go back to December, change her own mind to say, actually, no, I do like you.

52:22Claudia Oshry:No, I think it's like, I think that's classic. Like when you end things with someone and then you like look back and you're like, actually it was good. Like I wish I could have just like liked it, you know, you know, the streets by the streets.

52:32Jackie Oshry:Of course, I mean, the TikTok comment section. I've gotten some some personal information and then I've seen it reflected in like other rumors that Taylor and Travis are actually getting married in Big Sky, Montana.

52:42Claudia Oshry:I've seen that as well.

52:44Jackie Oshry:And she was also just out and about recently, like today and yesterday, wearing white. And people are like, the wedding is imminent. It's like, why? People just think that because she like wore a white dress.

52:53Claudia Oshry:No. Seen Montana, New York City. now the Hamptons of course Rhode Island I think they're I think they're also putting out a lot of fake news and I think that they should south of France you know the girl who's getting married June 13th and they moved her wedding like it's been going on for so long I think they're putting out a lot of Arrowhead Stadium yeah they I don't think maybe they won't even get married at any of

53:15Jackie Oshry:these places right and it'll be like a living room wedding with just Scott Andrea and Donna and Jason and Kylie go birds women supporting women

53:25Claudia Oshry:um are you ready for our fifth and final story a little more love news yeah

53:30Jackie Oshry:because Sydney

53:30Claudia Oshry:Sydney Sweeney has posted a loved up video of her and Scooter Braun on vacation a montage a montage she made a little video montage of their week in Australia lots of kissing dancing beach going hand holding oh I didn't realize

53:45Jackie Oshry:it was like a week recap of their trip I just thought it was like a vlog I thought it was like

53:49Claudia Oshry:at first I was like oh it's a vlog of like a lot of moments in their time together. But no, it's from their most recent trip to Australia. So this is just like one week of their life.

54:01Jackie Oshry:Their romance is very much giving like one of my novels where it's like really handsome billionaire who's obsessed with this girl. And she's just like a bombshell, but she's like just a normal girl.

54:14Claudia Oshry:With a heart of gold.

54:15Jackie Oshry:Yeah, no, it's giving like Megan Quinn, if you know, you know.

54:17Claudia Oshry:Who wants love and has found it.

54:20Jackie Oshry:Yeah, no, it's like it's kind of crazy.

54:24Claudia Oshry:Like it's really become like the cutest romance. They're going to get married. The cutest ship out in the sea right now.

54:31Jackie Oshry:They're going to get married. And I feel like she has a lot of business ventures that I feel are benefiting from her relationship to. You know what I mean? Because I feel like a lot of her career is like being a brand ambassador, launching all these companies, the bathwater thing. Like I feel like actually up until recently, her career was kind of messy. like she needs someone to come and sort out her she needs a manager yeah she needs a business

54:53Claudia Oshry:manager i think he is available yeah and then she was like launching siren and it just felt like kind of all over the place it's very disjointed she needs someone to manage her affairs and now

55:02Jackie Oshry:it does feel like she's sort of getting her affairs in order yeah um siren appears to be like a much more legitimate venture i loved their pop-up at stagecoach like i feel like that has to

55:11Claudia Oshry:be his influence and involvement yeah and i do think this season of of sephoria euphoria that was filmed like probably almost a year ago at this point um it's sort of like getting in the way because her character i i'm seeing so many clips of her character she's really wild and out

55:30Jackie Oshry:but she really is like the main character of this the entire show is like about her well from my

55:34Claudia Oshry:perspective it's the show should be called cassie cassoria cassoria because it's just her she grew into a monster did you see that i saw that she's like godzilla taking over the city she swatted a helicopter with her hair and then she like showed her boobs to the people in the window did you see that part no i didn't i must have missed that reel yeah no last episode looked really crazy there's been a lot of talk about it but anyways yes um so i think she'll be like glad she booked la night oh she was on the podcast with um oh yeah yeah yeah she made it with she booked she booked la nights what's that oh you didn't see those clips i think it's like a role she really wanted she got it i have no idea what's going on in the show i'm happy but i think she like also

56:19Jackie Oshry:stepped on maude apatow's like toes like maude apatow i think is a writer for like this low level tv show and cassie is like staying with her couch surfing i don't know i i really kind of like

56:28Claudia Oshry:want to watch the show now it looks really good yeah i haven't seen zendaya oh i saw zendaya at the wedding oh no like zendaya was like buried do you see that clip wait what it was really disturbing i think zente might be dead i think they might have killed her or like you know they're always to be like dream it's a dream yeah like how did she be grow so big cassie yeah i don't

56:53Jackie Oshry:what does that have to do with the show i don't know like i need to watch i need to watch but also

56:57Claudia Oshry:the outfit she was wearing was the same night that she did drugs so maybe it was like a hallucination

57:02Jackie Oshry:yeah that's what i mean they do and there's a lot of drugs in the show so like i don't know if rue is sober but like when she was actively in drug addiction she was always having these like

57:13Claudia Oshry:dream sequence like hallucinations I think maybe um I think Rue is maybe dead or she like overdosed in her dreams or something yeah but it was a really crazy scene that I saw it's so funny I see the clips literally the show comes out Sunday night right yeah and then Monday morning Monday morning I love it yeah no I'm really enjoying the season of euphoria as am i and enjoying the season of scooter and sydney i hope they get married and live happily ever after totally do you think they'll be invited to the wedding yeah

57:49Jackie Oshry:i do let's get into summer house okay so the big driveway fight um i just have i have one word

57:55Claudia Oshry:to say when it comes to the driveway fight three letters loser on loser crime one word three

58:01Jackie Oshry:letters. Like seriously, Carl, like, and I love Bailey. Cause like, she's a sweet girl and I actually really like her and her saying, yeah, Carl getting his veins popping out. It was so hot. He was being so angry. It was so sexy. There are a million words to describe what I felt when I was watching Carl, like call Kyle a loser, but not one of them was like hot or sexy. It was giving so like cringe. No,

58:27Claudia Oshry:but I actually love Bailey so much and she's so sweet. the way she described Carl. Carl doesn't deserve her. Carl does not deserve her. But you know what? Like if she was really meant that, like there really is a lid for every pot. Like maybe she did think that was sexy. Like I want them to be together. She's so cute.

58:44Jackie Oshry:I believe that they are not together and it's because Carl doesn't like her. That's just what I feel like based on what she said on Watch Happens Live, they're not together. They didn't take it any further.

58:52Claudia Oshry:But I hope, I don't know what happens after the summer, but like, or maybe it's not too late. Maybe they're just like both sort of awkward and it's going to take a while to get them off the ground. but um he doesn't deserve her and he he should he should strike so the fight about amanda and

59:08Jackie Oshry:kyle ended up becoming carl and kyle it was so stupid like i seriously and i do blame jesse solomon like he was largely responsible for what happened in that driveway it was cringe they made up and like i don't know where we got left with amanda and kyle like it was like no no resolution but of course there are a couple of nuggets worth discussing when it comes to west's involvement in now i am firmly right now believing that they have not started their affair yet but i do see the trappings it's damsel in distress it's hero you know victim up in the tower like she when she was like when you moved your chair and she's like on like the verge of tears talking to west like when you moved your chair and then they had that really long hug and she's like she's been holding it together the whole time.

59:56Jackie Oshry:And then the second she's in Wes's arms, she starts to cry. Like, no, no, they literally fell in love. It's kind of romantic.

1:00:02Claudia Oshry:Well, it's really hard not to like watch the whole fight like through the lens of like Amanda's a villainous, traitorous, disloyal liar. Because if all of this Wes Mandeville stuff hadn't happened, we would watch a fight and been like, wow, Kyle is awful. She is, you know, mistreated and this is terrible. But then when you watch the fight with a little bit of a shrewd eye towards Amanda, she's she is sitting there snickering when everybody starts to pile you know what the she like is living for at the moment where everyone starts to like descend on Kyle and then she sits back and lets it happen and of course she doesn't need to defend him because what they're saying are how she feels and things that she's voiced to the girls and now they're taking up for her but when he said like I feel so deserted like who would ever sit there at a table while someone piles on your husband.

1:00:49Claudia Oshry:That's your husband. That's your family.

1:00:51Jackie Oshry:No, even if I agree with everything they're saying, you ride or die.

1:00:54Claudia Oshry:If I can't defend you, and I don't want to defend you in any situation ever, like, that's not love. Like, that's not support. That's not partnership. And so, like, I understand why she has issues with him. I do. If my husband, at 40 plus years old, like, wanted to be a DJ traveling the country, like, I would not like it. I wouldn't. But there are ways to, like, deal with things. And it's just so weird how they go the whole week in their apartment, I guess, together. And they probably don't speak at all. When Mia was like, I can't imagine what he does at home and no one's here. I think it's nothing.

1:01:27Claudia Oshry:I think these things only reach this level when they're with other people and they have to talk about their issues. I don't think they talk about anything when it's just the two of them. And it's like, is it that he's always she's like mad that he's always leaving, right, to go and do his shows. But then also she wants time separate from him. Sierra is like they're on top of each other. They're together all the time. But then she also says he's never home. so I don't know which one it is and so watching the fight like just for you know giving Kyle a little bit of like the benefit of the doubt grace he is spiraling he is so emotional he's so hurt the idea of separating is like so painful for him because like he actually like loves his wife

1:02:02Jackie Oshry:yeah she is a weird way of showing it but he does have love for her she hates him and what's that

1:02:08Claudia Oshry:like to be with someone day in and day out who hates you who's always on the other side of things who doesn't have your back and then when the rest of the house is sort of piling onto him about other stuff and he also is literally on the hook for almost five million dollars like and his company is going and he can't dj fast enough to pay his bills and then he's getting yelled at for djing and they're like why aren't you home having babies with her and he's like she doesn't even want babies like and she says one thing and then does another and it's like that i i am very frustrated for him now he should not say fuck you to his wife and certainly not at a table in front of people and the way he goes about everything is wrong and he cannot manage his emotions and like you i don't have time for people who can't like control their no the only time he opens up is in an angry way like that's bad no and like that he could not calm down like excuse me sir like you're in your 40s regulate please like let's but yeah also drinking doesn't help they said he was like on the verge of blacking out so like stop drinking so much if you're like in such an emotional fragile state but i did have like i felt bad i felt sorry for him because he he's so distraught yeah and i do

1:03:10Jackie Oshry:want to say like it's just so obvious like obviously he's bad he's wrong he's yelling he's djing but to a certain point and i certainly don't want to victim blame but like in a marriage like that like people like kyle gets away with all this stuff because there's a precedent here right it's six or seven years of her like really not demanding anything from her husband like not that it's a woman's job but like men are just sort of aimless and i feel like when they get into a marriage like they really become men and they get their lives together so to speak and they know how to act and it's like this is a seven year long or 10 year long relationship where it's like there's been really no accountability on kyle for any of his actions he has not been like demanded to be a good partner or a good husband so obviously he keeps doing shit like this like

1:03:56Claudia Oshry:seriously what do we expect yeah also like i think last season they had that conversation where she like said for the first time on camera that she didn't know if she wanted kids and I imagine for him like that was a major betrayal not betrayal like a big turning point for him like where it's like because if they had had started to have kids like last summer then they would have all of these issues while they would still be there they would have been on to the next you know they might have like moved out of the city and started a family and been focused on those things and and he you know he's not gonna actually dj multiple nights a week when you have a child that would be like insane insane um and so if we're not doing that then why can't i go and dj all the time and try and make money and work on my career like seriously why do i need to sit at home and look what else are we doing yeah and it's not like there's other things that she wants me it's not like you have to have a kid or you have to go be a dj but it's like what do i need to stay home for why can't i go out and work but like to have that conversation for the first time

1:04:51Jackie Oshry:like that revelation on tv that's what i meant when i said betrayal like that's insane oh to

1:04:56Claudia Oshry:have that on tv but also like i think if anyone not on tv or in general like if you marry someone and it always is like we're gonna i'm marrying someone who wants to have kids because i want to have kids and whether it's the man or the woman who at some point says like i don't know if i want to have kids like that must just be so destabilizing devastating yeah so i i just think that now all

1:05:16Jackie Oshry:those all that to say i don't think kyle cook is like itching you know to get pregnant right now

1:05:19Claudia Oshry:no no but if that it once that was sort of taken off the map and that's not your north star well then sure let's go left right down back forwards right no but seriously like what does she need she doesn't like him so why do you want him home every night you don't you don't actually you don't want him every night so you just like want to complain that he's out DJing like trying to like

1:05:40Jackie Oshry:piece together a living yeah so I also say what I also say like I actually when he was like seriously

1:05:49Claudia Oshry:like frantic in the closet like breaking down the closet putting on the ugliest outfit I ever saw in my life to go and apologize to her. He couldn't even put together an outfit. Just want to say, I actually felt sorry for this person whose life is falling apart on every front. And I'm sure Amanda handles her emotions differently, but I also now have to look at her through the lens of I don't even know. A crazy person. Like you literally, I just saw the scene where she said, out of nowhere, like nobody, nobody, Amanda, I would die for Sierra. If she told me to kill Wes, I would kill him on sight.

1:06:18Jackie Oshry:Yeah, but what she actually said was that I would never talk to him again if she asked me not to. and it's like okay but you had sex with him I think she said

1:06:24Claudia Oshry:she would kill him

1:06:26Jackie Oshry:no no she said she would cut him off

1:06:27Claudia Oshry:oh I thought I thought she said maybe she meant like

1:06:29Jackie Oshry:cut his head off

1:06:30Claudia Oshry:yeah I thought she said like if Sierra looked at me like gave me the sign I would kill him like

1:06:34Jackie Oshry:oh I thought if Sierra gave me the sign to cut him off like I would stop talking to him and never like speak to him again

1:06:39Claudia Oshry:oh whichever one they're both very extreme it's like nobody even asked her to say something like that to like so to go from that to like six months later that you're falling in love with him is just really crazy so when she's in bed with like Mia and um Sierra Sierra and it's hard not to like you know look deeper into the way she's reacting you know yeah I know before Wes Mandeville I would have just been like wow she is just so numb yeah she must have been through this so many times your husband says fuck you at the table and

1:07:08Jackie Oshry:I didn't even see a tear you know yeah she was just sort of like yeah oh but it did also

1:07:15Claudia Oshry:justice for kyle cook says that it was part of her big you know gone girl that she like justice for kyle the twitter starts these little fires she knows kyle's gonna explode and give her the exact reaction that she wants on camera and then she walks away like that woman coming home drenched

1:07:34Jackie Oshry:in blood after staging her own kidnapping i respect justice for kyle cook's like creativity Although I think they're giving Amanda Batula like far too much credit.

1:07:44Claudia Oshry:Because justice for Kyle Cook. Oh, she also calls Kyle Cook America's dandy. What? Like that he's America's dandy.

1:07:54Jackie Oshry:What does that mean, dandy? Like, I don't know.

1:07:57Claudia Oshry:Like his like our like handsome boy.

1:08:02Jackie Oshry:And when she says our, who is she referring to? Because that's not me.

1:08:05Claudia Oshry:The country. He's like America's sweetheart, she thinks.

1:08:09Jackie Oshry:Okay.

1:08:11Claudia Oshry:okay justice um yeah but so she justice thinks it's like a years long griff that amanda's been playing long play this game to walk away from her marriage to kyle cook with him looking like the villain and her looking like the victim just like in gone girl just like in gone girl like leaving these breadcrumbs that's beautiful what else happened jesse solomon made me sad like he needs a girlfriend and he had one I know so why would anyone like give him the time of day yeah I like

1:08:44Jackie Oshry:I love I simultaneously love him and can't stand him you know what I'm back to loving him I will always be Alexi truther after the video of the girl falling like I love he needs our support you know I will always be Alexi truther and I would love to we should have him on on namesake because we can um and I was our aunt yeah because of our aunt so we're we're no longer having guests

1:09:07Claudia Oshry:on the toast like if we're ever having a conversation with someone they will come on

1:09:10Jackie Oshry:namesake it will be like a separate namesake won't be released monthly or weekly it will be released

1:09:15Claudia Oshry:as when it has to be it will be released as needed yes and like some episodes could be as short as five minutes it's like i have a couple questions for jesse solomon you know and one of them like would be like do you regret like do you have any apologies for lexi do you have any i would just like like i don't think that he does i would like an awareness that he like ruined that girl's life and then we can move forward in harmony

1:09:41Jackie Oshry:that's beautiful

1:09:42Claudia Oshry:so I just would like to know that so let's get namesake up and running

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