In short
The Toast hosts discuss allergies/brain fog, influencer culture, and then do pop-culture/news recaps: Taylor Swift at the iHeartRadio Music Awards, Mormon Wives drama involving Jesse Draper and Chase McHorter, Summer House hookup/feud rumors between Amanda Batool and Sierra Miller, Shaquille O’Neal denying “horny DMs” to Sabrina Carpenter, and Sarah Michelle Gellar criticizing Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
Guests
No guests appear in the transcript; the episode is hosted by “Jackson Claude” and “the toast” co-host (they reference “cojourner’s sister’s truth” as a segment name, not an actual guest).
Key claims
TikTok fame is unhealthy; Taylor attends “controlled” radio-industry events; Mormon Wives drama feels staged to keep filming going; Summer House friendship is too strong for a real Amanda/Sierra fracture; Shaq’s Sabrina DMs rumor is fake; Andy/Radio Andy is more upset about clipping/production than Gellar’s opinion.
Notable examples
Taylor’s “best tour style” award; Jesse kissing Chase; Sierra and Amanda not liking each other’s Instagram posts; the fake Shaq message about “farts in a cologne bottle”; Gellar calling the RHOBH season boring.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOFriday Vibes and Personal Updates
0:45 to 2:30
Hosts share their feelings about the week and personal health updates.
“Plus, I have like a tickle in my throat of whatever's going around.”
Brain Fog and Allergy Management
2:30 to 4:32
Discussion about allergies, brain fog, and personal experiences with medication.
“Today the brain fog was from Zyrtec, which apparently causes brain fog.”
Life After Death and Cadaver Conversations
4:32 to 6:30
Exploring what happens after death and humorous cadaver anecdotes.
“I feel like a lot of people think they're going to be a doctor.”
Influencer Culture and Personal Identity
6:30 to 8:35
A deep dive into the struggles of influencers and personal definitions.
“So if you ever are jealous like that you didn't blow up on TikTok, just know.”
Binge Culture's Effect on TV Viewing
8:35 to 10:34
Hosts discuss the impact of binge culture on their TV watching habits.
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey at the iHeartRadio Music Awards
14:15 to 20:40
Discussion on Taylor Swift's recent award show appearance with Travis Kelsey and its implications.
“Our first story, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey have their first award show date night at the iHeartRadio Music Awards.”
Mormon Wives Drama Unfolds
20:42 to 28:00
Analysis of the social media drama involving Jesse Draper and Chase McHorter amidst the Mormon Wives series.
“So allegedly Mormon Wives Jesse Draper kissed Chase McHorter at a party.”
Insecurity and Attention-Seeking in Relationships
28:00 to 29:06
Explore the dynamics of attention-seeking behavior in relationships and its roots in insecurity.
Amanda and Sierra's Feud: Rumors and Reality
29:07 to 33:08
Discuss the rumors surrounding Amanda and Sierra's relationship amidst a potential feud and its implications.
“Apparently, besties Amanda Batool and Sierra Miller are feuding amid West Wilson hookup rumors.”
Shaquille O'Neal's Viral Rumors about Sabrina Carpenter
33:09 to 35:08
Dive into the absurdity of Shaquille O'Neal's viral DMs rumors and the impact of misinformation.
“on his instagram to the next wife i saw that's maybe i will go back to watching yeah our next story is the craziest headline I ever read.”
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Sarah Michelle Gellar's Critique of Real Housewives
38:08 to 42:01
Analyze the implications of Sarah Michelle Gellar's comments on Real Housewives and the reactions they sparked.
“Are you ready for our fifth and final story?”
Analyzing the Drama of Real Housewives
42:01 to 43:50
Explore the dynamics and conflicts in a recent Real Housewives episode.
“That's, you're still in a workplace environment.”
Business and Friendships: Competing Courses
43:51 to 45:55
Discuss the implications of selling courses in the context of friendship and competition on the show.
“But people with their own money and their own free will are buying them.”
Trust Issues and Emotional Struggles
45:56 to 49:20
Delve into the trust issues and emotional debates among the cast members.
“Bose as saying them and Rachel saying them and the whole group is saying them.”
Friendship Dynamics in Reality TV
49:21 to 50:18
Examine how new friendships affect existing relationships within the group.
“And it's like weeks, months on campaign.”
Wrap-up on Current Events in the Show
50:19 to 52:56
Conclude discussions on the latest happenings and performances of cast members.
“for so many years, like might just be a little bit at her wit's head.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:03Jackie Oshry:Good morning, girlies. It's the toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show. The fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly.
0:21Claudia Oshry:It's the toast. I sound amazing.
0:24Jackie Oshry:Welcome back to the shows and happy Friday. Yay. It is Friday. The last day of the week. Bye dairies. Bye dairies. Hope everybody had an amazing week is ready for an amazing episode and an amazing weekend. I feel like it's going to be in the lofty today. I don't know why we have real housewives of Beverly Hills. We have Queenie and Weenie.
0:40Claudia Oshry:I'm just good stories. We've got a lot to talk about. We obviously have to talk about ourselves. Right. I feel like we're like both a little.
0:46Jackie Oshry:Correct me if I'm wrong.
0:47Claudia Oshry:I'm feeling like slow moving. Yeah. I'm a little bit sick. Yeah. I cough a little. She's a little bit country. I actually sneeze a little. I can't be outside. My allergies are so bad. Plus, I have like a tickle in my throat of whatever's going around. So like this Friday is all I have left. I mean, gas in the tank is on Friday mode.
1:05Jackie Oshry:Something I'm not like I don't talk about enough and that I really should like kind of journal about and gratitude journal is that I don't have allergies. I feel like there are two types of people in this world living completely different existences, like people who have seasonal allergies and people who don't.
1:19Claudia Oshry:It's just a couple week stretch. You know, the rest of the year we're having the same existence. Don't worry too hard. But like you can literally see like pollen on the cars. It's falling off the trees. I was like outside yesterday talking to someone. I'm like, we've got to bring this inside. I was sneezing up a storm. Yeah. But it's because you just like go inside and you're okay-ish. That is crazy. Yeah. Just like you can't spend QT outside at the moment.
1:41Jackie Oshry:Maybe like I feel like it's a bigger deal because I live with Ben. Well, Ben, like everything for Ben is allergies. And I don't know if like Ben has talked about it. Maybe he talks about it on The Good Guys and you guys know. he um is he talking about his zyrtec withdrawal yeah and brain fog he's oh my god brain fog is actually a trigger word for me because it's now like a talk about it's a word now i feel like it's in a lot of our ads like it's like a sponsor he was actually here that day it's a buzzy word but like ben has been talking about brain fog for like 10 years but he didn't know the right medical phrase for it so he was always trying to describe to me how he felt just like blurry and i'm like Like literally I have memories of like us in our first apartment like being just boyfriend or girlfriend.
2:20Jackie Oshry:Like when I tell you I can't talk about brain fog. Like it's so deeply personally triggering for me.
2:25Claudia Oshry:But it turned out it was the Zyrtec he was taking every day.
2:27Jackie Oshry:Well, he thinks. It's always like every day Ben wakes up. He's like, I found the source of my brain fog. Today the brain fog was from Zyrtec, which apparently causes brain fog. Like I can't. I literally can't. Please don't say that word in front of me.
2:40Claudia Oshry:I haven't been taking allergy medication because he like kind of scared me off of Zyrtec. I also feel like I read something else about, and I don't know, I just feel like less is more. So I'm just, I'm hitting the Advil. Yeah, I take a little Advil.
2:51Jackie Oshry:One thing about me, like when my time comes and they like open up my body, because obviously I will be studied by science, like I'm going to be all Advil. Will you dedicate your body to science? Religiously, I don't believe we are allowed to like become cadavers. Like we have to be one with the soil. Like we can't be cremated. There's a lot of rules actually in Judaism about how you... Die? No, not die. How you like... Be dead? Live after death. How you be dead. How you be dead. And I don't think we can become cadavers. And I just know if I was a cadaver, like the medical student who got me would be a toaster.
3:23Jackie Oshry:And like, you know, it would be exciting. You would hope. Do you think anybody has ever recognized the cadaver and be like, oh, my God, this was my third grade middle school teacher or whatever?
3:31Claudia Oshry:Yes, I think anything is possible. So I would say in the history of the world, one time at least someone recognized their cadaver. I want to interview that person. But you could donate yourself in other ways.
3:43Jackie Oshry:Although I feel like when you donate your body to science, like they move you. Like you never are like. Out of state.
3:47Claudia Oshry:You're never like at the medical school of your local town. 1 ,000%. Definitely odds are slim, but I imagine that it's happened. Oh, for sure. Yeah. I feel like that would have been like major news. I don't know.
4:00Jackie Oshry:I don't know. Doctor-patient confidentiality. Does that also apply to the cadavers?
4:03Claudia Oshry:And it's like if it was just your third grade teacher, it's like, is that major news?
4:08Jackie Oshry:I feel like that's got to be one of the worst parts of being a doctor, like going through the process. the cadaver era. You're just around dead bodies so much. Do you think you would be affected?
4:21Claudia Oshry:Yeah. I'm not a doctor. Why not? It's not for me. I'm more of a teacher.
4:27Jackie Oshry:You are so a teacher. Was there ever a time in your life where you thought maybe you would become a doctor?
4:31Claudia Oshry:No, never. Not once. Me neither. I feel like a lot of people think they're going to be a doctor.
4:35Jackie Oshry:Yeah, like they're on that pre-med track.
4:36Claudia Oshry:Yeah, they have to do something with all their smarts. I never experienced that sort of crisis. Being smart, yeah. because I was an idiot. Yeah, yeah, I feel that in me as well. No press. Yeah. But I'm sure like Olivia, she probably felt torn like, should I be a doctor? Should I be a lawyer?
4:48Jackie Oshry:Yeah, Olivia was like very, very scholastically smart when we were growing up.
4:52Claudia Oshry:She was like an A plus student. I would imagine like she had considered at some point being a doctor. Like even for a brief moment, I never not. It never came up. Like I didn't have the grades. For me, it was like
5:03Jackie Oshry:you're going to be a doctor. podcaster or influencer.
5:05Claudia Oshry:Yeah.
5:06Jackie Oshry:Podcaster. That is crazy also how like kids these days, like when they, what they say when they want to be when they grow up, We're so inspirational. Influencers for now.
5:15Claudia Oshry:Everyone's having a hard time with it, don't you find? With influencing or with us? No, not us. Everyone else. Influencers are having... Expand. Influencers are always having a hard time. Try being an influencer for a day. Try it. I don't feel that way. Who are you referring to? I feel like all influencers are unwell. You mean like mental health? Mental health. Oh, for sure. You know, they're struggling, this and that. Yeah. Unless they find that like struggling is good content. So they just like share that more. but I do feel like they're not overwhelmingly like happy and fulfilled. Don't you find if you think about influencers at a glance or like, I'm looking at influencers that I know.
5:50Claudia Oshry:I can think of a couple influencers who I feel like are happy influencers.
5:53Jackie Oshry:What it is. I actually, I think what I think of the people that I know who are like happy people and also influencers and like are happy in their lives. It's the people who have been doing it for like a hundred years and who like very slowly over time became really successful. I think we're like the girls who are struggling or the girls who blew up on TikTok. Like that's so bad for your health. TikTok is so bad. It happened too quickly. Like the younger people who it happened kind of unnaturally for. When I think about like my friends who are influencers, like Lauren Elizabeth. Like over time, years and years, been in the game.
6:19Jackie Oshry:I think she's like very headstrong. Taylor Strecker. People who just developed not like slowly. Brick by brick. Yeah. I think the girls who like blew up on TikTok are like in hell. So if you ever are jealous like that you didn't blow up on TikTok, just know. Like it's not all it's cracked out to be.
6:35Claudia Oshry:Check on your local influencer.
6:36Jackie Oshry:Check on your local TikToker.
6:37Claudia Oshry:She needs a hug. try being an influencer for a day try it we have each other you know oh you and i yeah we are not
6:45Jackie Oshry:talking about us no not no and also i really i don't consider myself an influencer you're so silly like what like i do brand deals and stuff obviously but that's not what i get up every day
6:54Claudia Oshry:and do i'm a podcaster you're an influencer like sorry to tell you i'm not like i'm not really are i'm an author i'm a singer obviously because all of those things because you're an influencer
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7:04Jackie Oshry:because I'm a podcaster because you're an influencer like I was cast on the mass singer because like I have such a successful podcast Claudia why don't you want to be an influencer
7:13Claudia Oshry:I would in addition I'm obviously a tiktoker too you have a podcast you have a book like yes
7:19Jackie Oshry:like I guess the way I came up like I have a podcast because I'm an influencer but like now
7:23Claudia Oshry:the podcast has eclipsed everything yeah but even people who are podcasters except for like Joe Rogan would you say you have to give me an example like Alex Cooper is an influencer no would you I don't I never thought about it she ain't she don't do brand deals she actually doesn't
7:38Jackie Oshry:she doesn't do brand deals she is I think she would call herself like a founder you know right a leader um a thought leader but I think she's a podcaster and I don't think that's crazy to say and Jackie we podcast every single day sorry we're actually not influencers rats I know I just want to say I am a tiktoker oh oh okay but outside of that like yeah we're just podcasters who do other things, of course. But like, sorry.
8:06Claudia Oshry:Multi-hyphenate. Correct. We're influencers. I just want you to know.
8:10Jackie Oshry:I mean, we do influence like generations, of course. Yeah.
8:14Claudia Oshry:Okay. Sound off in the comments. Are we influencers? Don't. Don't sound off in the comments. Smile. Don't smile. I feel like anytime I've asked someone to sound off in the comments, like they just don't.
8:25Jackie Oshry:Oh, yeah. Whatever happened to sounding off in the comments?
8:28Claudia Oshry:there was a question I posed the other oh I guess nobody saw my Instagram I saw one person say she
8:34Jackie Oshry:was looking for your shirt and she ended up on the Colgate alumni website I saw one girl being like yeah I thought it was a cute shirt next thing I know I'm like signing up for courses
8:45Claudia Oshry:okay yeah thanks for letting me know yeah and did she think like it was a glitch or she recognized
8:51Jackie Oshry:my error she and then she said she didn't want to be like annoying and send you a message because
8:54Claudia Oshry:that's also annoying and i hate like my stomach dropped yeah of course girl you might you post that yeah oh my god i'm glad that i experienced it the way that i did because i just had a chuckle as opposed to someone be like you posted the wrong link right and it went to like a dark tweet or something oh my god that's a new nightmare like unlocked totally the wrong link totally so many sensitive materials out there it honestly could have been so much worse you watched your house at beverly hills last night no i didn't i didn't we were texting about this morning no i shared my thoughts about what you guys were texting about but i actually was gonna try something today and like pretend like i watched it and see if i could get away you
9:28Jackie Oshry:definitely could have because i would just like talk the whole time a fake recap and i could be
9:31Claudia Oshry:like that was crazy i'll tell you what happened but the last few weeks i've like killed myself to watch it on thursdays and you haven't even watched it yeah no i'm all caught up sorry i i um i fear as though like binge culture has affected my viewing of real housewives of beverly hills like it's not passing muster for week to week viewing i'm like we're still talking about this like i don't always that's what ben said he was like we're still in italy i don't always feel that way about my weekly shows like traders i but tell me lies fail to like keep up pace and not enough is changing week to week to justify watching it once a week so and i think we probably have a
10:06Jackie Oshry:story today about sarah michelle geller we do she a lot of people are saying that it's like a boring season i'm having like to really enjoy it and i'm the first person to like call things boring maybe I'm just in like a slow season of my life and so like a slow show with just like interesting
10:18Claudia Oshry:women and the people that you like and it's not that it's boring I just like I'm not like captivated by it like on the edge of my seat what happens next if I were binging it at the end of the season like watching it on Peacock or whatever I think I would be like oh my god this is amazing yeah but watching it week to week is just like not pulling me in but yeah let's talk about that's a story so and that will lead into the tv recap that you'll do yes yes yes because I'm not gonna lie and pretend like I watched it just to see if I could get away with it because you're not a liar
10:42Jackie Oshry:and that's why people believe you.
10:43Claudia Oshry:Right, and it's important not to lie. I agree. Because one day I'm going to tell my truth. Oh, God, I'm afraid.
10:49Jackie Oshry:My cojourner's truth. And I hope you'll believe me. I feel like when the time comes that you write a memoir, for a while we thought it would be like memoirs of a Streisand. But I think like now if you were to write a book, it has to be like my cojourner truth.
11:02Claudia Oshry:Yeah, or like cojourner's sister's truth. I love that.
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14:17Claudia Oshry:Our first story, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey have their first award show date night at the iHeartRadio Music Awards. So the iHeartRadio Music Awards were last night. Allegedly. Taylor Swift attended. She walked the carpet without Travis, but then Travis joined her in the audience. It was the first time that they were spotted together at an award show. Very Kylie and Timothy.
14:35Jackie Oshry:Yeah, like never the obvious choice. Like an award show, people know what's happening. david right right exactly um it felt really crazy to like see them together the thing about taylor that i will genuinely never run i think i do understand it but it's so weird how famous she is i would say this might ruffle some others but like just for context would you say she's more famous than beyonce uh i don't know no they're the same okay so they're in a tier like kim
15:03Claudia Oshry:Kardashian where globally the entire world knows who they are.
15:06Jackie Oshry:Okay. Beyonce goes to nothing. Literally, she went to the Grammys and I still thought it was crazy that she was there. It's like, why is she like lowering herself to attend the Grammys? It's so crazy. Why Taylor goes to like all these Fakakta award shows? Like she goes to like the teen choice. Like she has so many weird attendance at random award shows when she's so much better than that. And I think it's because she's like a smart business woman. I heart radio controls all the radio. She releases singles. She wants big radio hits. She would have it without it. Like she really would. I think she's also very like grateful to them for, I think they were one of the first big radio stations to like commit to playing exclusively Taylor's version.
15:38Jackie Oshry:So she just like honors relationships. And I think that's like really admirable, but it is really crazy for her to be at this like low bar award show where like the other most famous person was like Alex Warren.
15:48Claudia Oshry:Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I also think she likes being in like safe, controlled environments. And there's not going to be like a bunch of big stars there that she has like beef with. It's just like, I'm going, I'm going to get my picture. I'm going to get my award. I'll be able to make a speech if I have something I want to promote, if I'm test driving Travis and I at an award show, this is a good one to do it. There's not like a lot of factors and variables that she can't control. Like, I feel like this is a nice way to get your photo taken, wear a nice dress. It's just so unnerious. And you're going to win.
16:16Claudia Oshry:Like, it's just a very controlled and safe environment. She accepted an award for best tour style.
16:20Jackie Oshry:Like, it's just so not serious. Yeah. It's almost like a high school superlative. Yeah. Most likely to slay the Irish tour. Taylor Swift. Like, it's so random. Yeah. I get it though. Like I get it. I also think like a stat she really prides herself on is being like the most awarded female artist in history. And like these when you go, she won all eight of the awards that she was going to win. Maybe she would have won two or three if she wasn't there because like she sort of like is the obvious winner. But like now she's whatever. I think she has like 300 awards.
16:48Claudia Oshry:I actually am going to give her more credit than that. Because that would be incredibly stupid if it's all about being the most awarded. You know, she does love like holding these benchmarks. So why doesn't she go to the Shorty Awards and the Webbys? She literally did last night. Like, yeah. No, but like I'm going to give her more credit. I think that if that's really how she's measuring herself, like she's lost the plot. And I don't think that she has. I think it's more so about like relationships in radio and like a controlled night out with her mans where you're not walking over landmines everywhere you go.
17:15Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Ex-boyfriends, ex-friends. Yeah. It's just like the Taylor Swift show. That's fun. It is the Taylor Swift show. And it was. The I Heart Taylor.
17:22Jackie Oshry:But she's at the level that like wherever she goes is the Taylor Swift show. She can be in a room with all the most famous people.
17:27Claudia Oshry:Always the Grammys. Not always.
17:29Jackie Oshry:Like, yes, always the Grammys.
17:30Claudia Oshry:No, she went to one Grammys where she was just sort of like, what's she doing here? Which one? What did she wear? I think it was the Midnights one. Where she wore all blue? Yeah. She literally won.
17:39Jackie Oshry:So like.
17:39Claudia Oshry:No, no, no. But like, she was just like random in the audience.
17:42Jackie Oshry:I think like for that, like she was just craving a night out.
17:45Claudia Oshry:Yeah. But the Mecca, like the biggest events, she's not always going to be like the top dog, even though she pretty much is. But like, she might not feel that way. You don't know how it feels to walk into a room filled with like the most famous people in the world. And like she has, you know, I feel like she has her insecurities.
18:01Jackie Oshry:No. And people are like in the industry, like always trying to make statements about like whatever waste. And like they use Taylor Swift, like Fabissina and her brother. Yeah.
18:09Claudia Oshry:She doesn't want to go and see Billie.
18:11Jackie Oshry:Right. Like people who are just like literally like only get attention and clicks when they're like slamming her.
18:16Claudia Oshry:Everyone wants to make their bones on her.
18:18Jackie Oshry:They do. That's true.
18:19Claudia Oshry:You don't know what it's like to walk in a room as her and like all the things that are running through her mind. Yeah. This is an easy night out where she doesn't have to worry about those things.
18:26Jackie Oshry:It's really crazy that she brought Travis. Like, obviously that's her fiance and he's different than all the men from the past. But like, there was literally only one other time that she brought a boyfriend to an award show. It was Calvin Harris.
18:35Claudia Oshry:Well, because he was probably going anyway. He was probably nominated. Yeah. That's cute. He should do it more. Like, I don't know why they make us, her and Kylie make us wait three years to see you on a red carpet with your mans. Like, you guys are together every day. Like, why are you starving us?
18:47Jackie Oshry:Yeah. I think a lot of it is about like not wanting to pull attention from the person and the project. I agree. I agree.
18:53Claudia Oshry:I agree. As if Marty Supreme didn't get enough attention. as if Taylor doesn't get enough attention. No, and as if like Travis could steal attention from Taylor. I just want to say I'm no longer accepting that. I agree.
19:05Jackie Oshry:Like, well, I think like in her previous relationship, like it was definitely a point of contention that like he wouldn't. Like he had his own ego things because he actually wasn't famous or known as anything other than Taylor's fiance. So he like really felt like he needed to make it. And so I think maybe she has like trauma from the past relationship from that.
19:21Claudia Oshry:But that's not fair to like put on Travis. Dump your trauma. Like it should be tabula rasa. She looks pretty.
19:26Jackie Oshry:She does look pretty. She never slays the house down boots style-wise. I actually thought that this was a slay. And a perfectly appropriate outfit for this weird mid-level award show.
19:35Claudia Oshry:And for, it's kind of T-Low-Us colors, mid-green.
19:39Jackie Oshry:Yeah, and I was thinking that it was honoring, and also the corset is very showgirl. Sometimes her outfit signals that a new era is beginning, but to me this outfit said, girl, sit down, another album's not coming for a while.
19:50Claudia Oshry:Yeah, or it could be the segue between showgirl and the bridal album. Right. Which would be like corset. Yeah. You know, there is something. Bridal. A wee bridal about this. Right. It's not not. That's like the after party dress. So perhaps that's what's next. She needs to write an album of love songs next.
20:08Jackie Oshry:She writes like mostly all love songs.
20:11Claudia Oshry:But there are also like hate songs. Yeah, of course. But like just like a love letter.
20:16Jackie Oshry:Yeah. That's what it should be called. That's like what lover was. And it was supposed to be. Because like at that point when she wrote it, like she wasn't ever going to date again. Maybe they weren't ever going to get married. That was about Joe. Like lover was.
20:27Claudia Oshry:Okay, but it's fine because that's not how I see it. So don't worry about it. And she also had I forgot that you existed, which is a hate song. So it wasn't entirely just like a love letter to Travis.
20:36Jackie Oshry:It's nice to see her out on like a random Thursday night. Yeah. She should leave the house more.
20:41Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Mormon Wives drama with Jesse Draper. So allegedly Mormon Wives Jesse Draper kissed Chase McHorter at a party. That's Miranda's ex-husband. Chase is now in Dad Talk. He's on the show. If you watch the show, you know these people are.
20:57Jackie Oshry:All of this drama unfolded on social media last night. And we're all just like using context clues to piece together what we believe happened.
21:02Claudia Oshry:Yes. So Dumois posted that Jesse was spotted kissing Chase. And then Miranda posted that Jesse sent her flowers, like sort of like apology flowers, that these came out. And then I read somewhere this morning, and I have no idea where I read it and if it's remotely true, that like Chase had come clean to Miranda, that like he had been talking to Jesse and that they kissed. And then Jesse only reached out to Miranda. Once he found out. I read that too. Okay. So I think that that's true.
21:25Jackie Oshry:To me, this is giving really manufactured. It's giving we want the filming pause to return. I think they think maybe they don't get to continue filming because even Jesse was saying, like, if the show continues, like, I think they think that the show might not ever come back. And like they want to prove that, like, without Taylor Franke, like, there's still a lot going on. We're still all hooking up with whatever. And it felt so manufactured to me, not doubting that it didn't happen, but like all the drama, like sharing the flowers and the note on Instagram is like really crazy. I hope that's what it is this isn't doing it for me
21:57Claudia Oshry:I just I want to say I hope that's what it is because if Jesse really left Jordan to go smooch Chase yeah who's awful
22:04Jackie Oshry:stay with Jordan Chase does not get enough hate we said it when we were recapping the show but like so much has happened since then when they replayed that clip of what he went on a podcast saying about Macy it was his podcast sorry his podcast he started a podcast what did we say only dad right to like rebut all the success the clown on the girl and no and ride their coattails like he is truly awful so I mean Jesse obviously has bad taste in men like Marciano Jordan um but like you would think like she would learn if true like big L for Jesse yeah because Chase and I feel like Chase has tried to rebrand himself like it happens a lot on TikTok so I know you don't know but like he comments on all the girls Stephanie Lee's like really funny comments and it's like he's becoming like everybody's like looking the comments on the Mormon wise Instagrams are like looking for Chase's comment like making it about himself making it about himself and I just want to say like he is awful Like I don't forget.
22:51Jackie Oshry:I don't think his content is like cute or funny. And he like makes a lot of like pro Miranda content because people love Miranda. So it's like you fumbled it. Like I just he doesn't get enough hate. He sucks. Like don't let his rebrand wash over you.
23:03Claudia Oshry:He's doing just like whatever the audience wants. I think when he was like clowning on the girls and starting his podcast, he was like trying to like take attention and like, you know, be above them. But now he realizes he can just like ride their coattails into the sunset. And I'm not fooled. And are there no other men in Utah? I hope this is manufactured because I would be like, wait, Jesse, seriously, you're leaving Jordan for more of this? When I say manufactured, like I do believe it happened.
23:27Jackie Oshry:But I think like with the intention of blowing it up. Like it's so like you have to remember these are like women with multiple children who are like in their 30s. That's not how you don't like post your flowers. You know what I mean? Like the posting of the note felt so breaking the fourth wall. I think that they're worried that the filming pause is permanent.
23:48Claudia Oshry:Okay.
23:49Jackie Oshry:And like now they're talking about new spinoffs. Okay. So leaving them behind.
23:52Claudia Oshry:So then do what you need to do to get your show back and running.
23:54Jackie Oshry:And to anyone at Hulu listening, like stopping the show in its entirety because of Dakota and Taylor Frankie Paul and punishing everyone else is a bad idea, especially given like the platform the show is on now. It's like national news. They're talking about it everywhere. There is definitely a show without Dakota and Taylor. They have recently become like my least favorite parts of the show. I don't need either of them. I don't need you to take a stand and film with just Dakota or film with just like I want neither of them.
24:15Claudia Oshry:But I also had heard that the women were the reason why production at first.
24:19Jackie Oshry:So she was talking about it on Call Her Daddy. She didn't explain it well because I still don't understand it. But there were like two pauses. The first was the girls asking because they were afraid about like stuff coming out. They didn't want to. And then the executive said yes. And then they're like, let's do a bigger pause when the video came out.
24:34Claudia Oshry:Okay.
24:34Jackie Oshry:Now it's like now they're waiting to be told. Cameras back up.
24:36Claudia Oshry:Okay. Yeah. Well, I do feel like we're ready and not just because Jesse kissed Chase, but like. No, like in spite of it. Yeah. Like I don't care. But for other people, like maybe they need these sorts of things.
24:46Jackie Oshry:Well, people are eating this up and I feel like, am I being cynical? This is so staged and like silly to me. Like they're being so not subtle in their motives. Yeah. But people are like, oh my God, you have to talk about this on shows. I'm like, I feel like it's not that real.
25:01Claudia Oshry:Yeah. I don't know why. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm just not like that invested in this in particular, but I'm invested in the show.
25:09Jackie Oshry:So I also hate like Jesse giving Jordan like anything to say. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Like he, she kissed Marciano. She's so funny. She's like a third grader just kissing everyone. She kissed Marciano and he held it over her and blackmailed her for literally two years. And now he's commenting on TikToks. Like, you know, like he feels justified. Like, I hate that she did that, you know.
25:29Claudia Oshry:I wonder what it is then because she has like a good head on her shoulders. Have you seen? I think she's got a plan.
25:34Jackie Oshry:It happens on TikTok. So I have to. There was a clip from this season of Jordan. All the girls are talking about to me coming to the premiere of Secret Lives and Mormon Wives, but then like not staying in the house with them, not filming with them and how it's like annoying that like she's sort of using the name and the mom talk without actually participating. And Jordan, of course, like interjects in the conversation and honestly gives like a really sort of like queen, like fruity, like performance, like monologue and sit with the secret lives of Mormon wives. But she's not filming. Have you seen that?
26:05Jackie Oshry:I have to show it to you. People are recreating it now. I have to tell you, I thought it when I was watching it. I'm like, that's like a really weird Jordan Salamo.
26:13Claudia Oshry:now theatrical yeah okay i think i know exactly the moment you're talking about but i okay ready i want to watch it give me the phone put the thing in the microphone though
26:39Jackie Oshry:isn't that crazy it is one of my favorite things that's happening on the internet right now and checking she has no problem coming out and sitting with the secret lies of mormon he's like whitney on broadway like but she's not filming like he and the thing is and i saw somebody say this in a comment i was cracking up all the girls were sitting there like saying that he just like repackaged what they had already said and like steamrolled over the conversation and like thought he slayed and layla's like yeah we just said that like he's so crazy but she has no problem coming out and sitting with the secret lives of mormon wives but she's not filming we have to make that tiktok after this the best thing i've ever saw let's make that TikTok after.
27:26Claudia Oshry:Oh my god, I'm cracking up. That's a rare W for Jordan. Correct. Oh my gosh. Well, also, like, Jesse and Harry Jowsey. Yeah, he
27:37Jackie Oshry:was then sharing their DMs where they were just, like, voice memoing each other back and forth, like, flirtatiously. Nothing happened, but it was kind of a bad day for Jesse.
27:45Claudia Oshry:Yeah, because she had cited that conversation with Harry Jowsey on Call Her Daddy just being like, he broke into my Instagram and was looking at my DMs with Harry and then, like, berate her because of it and um then harry jousey posted their voice notes which i don't know why he did i didn't get a chance to listen to all of them but yeah i guess if like you're married and you're back and forth thing okay but you're married to the devil right right right but like you're still married you're married to like the prison warden but you're married and you're like dming back and forth with like an eligible single guy jesse like is an elementary schooler like she loves to flirt and kiss crush on harry jousey but like i think she likes attention from boys husband would be
28:24Jackie Oshry:like but that's inappropriate she also speaks about this a lot in regards she sees harry jowsey like a son no like you she speaks about this a lot in regards when she gets questions about like why she gets so much work on her face and plastic surgery she has like like deep deep-rooted insecurity like self-esteem issues and like i feel like that really does manifest itself a lot where like you just seek out attention from other people like for her it wasn't about like stepping
28:47Claudia Oshry:out on her marriage it was just like about getting attention with a cool guy yeah yeah Yeah. Yeah. Our next story. But she's not filming. Oh, my God. That seriously made my day. Yeah. Like, that's when the internet. It's the best. Yeah. It's worth it. Yeah. AI, like, destroys the world. At least we saw that. We saw that. Yeah. Our next story. Summerhouse feud rumors. Apparently, besties Amanda Batool and Sierra Miller are feuding amid West Wilson hookup rumors. So we said this last week. There was rumors that. It was debunked almost instantly. But there was rumors that Amanda and Wes had hooked up and like were spotted together.
29:23Claudia Oshry:And we were just like, there's literally no way because I was thinking about Kyle. But Sierra. But Sierra is her best friend.
29:31Jackie Oshry:But now the rumors are recirculating. And even more so that it's really fractured Amanda and Sierra's relationship. Yes. Also, they were scheduled to film a joint Amazon Live. That's really fueling a lot of people. It was announced as like this joint project. And they ended up doing two separate lives separately, like in different locations.
29:46Claudia Oshry:Yeah. I feel like I feel like that's not necessarily a smoking gun because I feel like if they were feuding, they would actually just put it aside and do the live because like you're not going to be like, oh, we're not talking right now. We can't work like you signed a contract. So maybe just like scheduling things happened.
30:01Jackie Oshry:And it would just be really easy for this to be debunked. Like one person, like literally page commenting on E! News, you know, like it would be not that she has to. I'm just saying like there are a lot of people who could just be like, this is hardcore non-true. And the fact that it hasn't and it's now resurfaced again. I want to talk about it as if it's true.
30:16Claudia Oshry:They haven't been liking each other's Instagram posts in recent weeks. And they seemingly unliked many from the past.
30:22Jackie Oshry:So if this is true, I want to talk about how crazy it is. Because like these girls, like they're obsessed with their friendship, right? I feel like they, on the last couple of seasons of Summer House, like they're always just laying in bed, like crying about how much they love each other. And how about they hate men and they don't really want men to like infiltrate. So if a man really did successfully like come between them, like that would be so crazy.
30:43Claudia Oshry:That would be. Just because they are better than that. It would be so crazy to the point that I actually don't believe it. Yeah, I can. They will have to yell at me in my face. No, I mean, I was hooked up and she betrayed Sierra in order for me. And I still probably I would say you're covering up for something else.
30:59Jackie Oshry:Because these are like such deep friendships like they and they're really based on like their friendships are built on this like sort of forever like mentality. Girlhood slumber party, you know, like when Amanda and Paige last season had that fight over Kyle. and they were like so mad that Kyle was making them fight. And that's a husband. Right. I just, you're right.
31:21Claudia Oshry:It's so not believable. I do not believe it. And if Amanda and Wes are getting together, like that is such a betrayal on so many levels. And sorry that I keep bringing it back to Kyle. Who cares? But they were married. No, I know. Wes and Sierra, you think that's a bigger betrayal? They had a... Kyle and Wes are not like best friends. They're castmates.
31:40Jackie Oshry:And I think they're friends.
31:41Claudia Oshry:But they're like in... It's like Raquel in Sandoval. She was just like a random new on the cast.
31:46Jackie Oshry:Well, no, she was Ariana's best friend. It's more akin. It's Sierra West and Amanda. I'm sorry. I know you see it through Kyle's life.
31:52Claudia Oshry:But they were dating for six months versus Kyle and Amanda have a relationship for 10 years. And that's his buddy. What's also weird is that Sierra and West. And that's his mate's missus. Sierra and West were also recently spotted out together. Well, they could be friends. They could be friends. It was after the first rumor. No, Claudia. I can't believe. We have to. We really cannot believe it. I'm not going to pass judgment until we get more confirmation. But things. Maybe they're just in a fight for something else. Right. But them not liking each other's Instagrams. And like, what is that? Like, how does Paige, whose side does she take?
32:23Claudia Oshry:Does she even have to take a side if she's not filming? Why can't she hang out with Amanda sometimes and Sierra other times?
32:28Jackie Oshry:I think that they're just all best friends. And I think she has a longer friendship with Amanda. But technically, like, Amanda would be in the wrong. So, like, how do you side with Amanda? I don't envy the position she's in.
32:39Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Or maybe she's able to keep it separate, just like Hannah. Hannah and Amanda. Seems like Amanda's a problem. All of her friends are just separate. yeah no that sucks and she doesn't seem like she has a lot of free time so right who you get hang out who you choose first i don't know yeah let's just say it's not true until we know more yeah but that would be juicy if true it would be good for summer house it would be i'll or the city the city i'll go back to watching yeah same i'm just i just missed like one or two episodes apparently this week's episode was really bad for kyle he had to post an apology on his instagram to the next wife i saw that's maybe i will go back to watching yeah our next story is the craziest headline I ever read.
33:16Claudia Oshry:Okay. Shaquille O 'Neal explains the viral rumors that he sent Sabrina Carpenter horny DMs. Yes, I saw this as well. Shaq wants to set the record straight about a viral rumor that he sent horny DMs to Sabrina Carpenter. He said on his podcast that the alleged messages between him and Sabrina are fake, sadly. While talking with his guests, he said he would read the messages aloud and told them, I want you to tell me if it's me or not. He then read a fake message that told Sabrina Sabrina that he wanted to keep her farts in a cologne bottle and spray it on me every day.
33:50Jackie Oshry:I'm cracking up. I just want to say I ship. Ship. Ship. All heartedly.
33:57Claudia Oshry:So he's 54.
33:59Jackie Oshry:She's what, like 25?
34:01Claudia Oshry:Yeah, something like that. Maybe like.
34:03Jackie Oshry:It's not even so much about age. It's about size. Like, I do think she's probably the size of his foot.
34:09Claudia Oshry:Yeah. And that's why it's so perfect. I deeply ship. Now with age of attraction, I'm just like ages, ages, but a number. Yeah.
34:17Jackie Oshry:And I feel like Sabrina is like very of her own mind, you know, because obviously the danger between, you know, a relationship with a huge age gap is like the power dynamic.
34:26Claudia Oshry:She's frontal lobe developed.
34:28Jackie Oshry:She's frontal lobe developed. I think she would be running that house. And, you know, Shaq really loves a tiny woman. Have you ever seen, I guess everyone looks tiny next to him, but have you seen this like most recent, like long-term partner?
34:37Claudia Oshry:No, but everybody would look tiny.
34:39Jackie Oshry:But she really was like us.
34:40Claudia Oshry:I'm cracking up.
34:43Jackie Oshry:ship ship i'm glad he addressed it because i didn't know this was happening me neither and if i would have seen it like i'm media literate like i would know that that is fake mostly because like sabrina would never screenshot it and like put it out there yeah that's really funny i like ai is so crazy like the concept of being able to generate fake messages is crazy but like somebody had to have the idea first right and that's why ai will never beat us because somebody thought of this to generate. Yeah, it's so true. Are you ready for our fifth and final story that will lead into our TV recap? Oh, no, I'm not.
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38:12Claudia Oshry:Are you ready for our fifth and final story? I'm actually like so excited to talk about this. Okay, so Annie Cohen is clapping back at Sarah Michelle Gellar's brutal criticism of Real Houses of Beverly Hills during her Page Six radio interview.
38:22Jackie Oshry:So I feel like that headline's a little misleading. It's not brutal.
38:24Claudia Oshry:Yeah. And he's not really clapping back at her. Here's the story. Sarah Michelle Gellar went on Page Six Radio, which is a part of Radio Andy's Sirius XM channel. And she was talking about her thoughts on this season of Beverly Hills. She's a fan of the show. And she said— She had just been on Watched Rebens Live the night prior talking about it. Yeah. And she said that she found the season to be a little boring. And they clipped that and posted it as a reel on Instagram. Instagram. Tic-tac. Tic-tac-toe. So he said, I guess Page Six Radio interviewed Sarah Michelle Gellar.
38:55Jackie Oshry:Sorry, then the next day he went on his radio show and spoke about the clip.
38:59Claudia Oshry:I guess Page Six Radio interviewed Sarah Michelle Gellar and it was in our studio and then they posted. Sarah Michelle Gellar is bored. That title of the post was Sarah Michelle Gellar is bored by this season of Real Houses of Beverly Hills. The interview took place in the Radio Andy studio. He went on to slam the idea of a radio show guest criticizing a Bravo show he executive produces in his own studio. He said she's wrong, by the way. And then he responded to her assessment of Beverly Hills.
39:22Jackie Oshry:Um, so it, to me, it seems more like that he was angry at production and he's not wrong. Like when you run such a big channel, like, but anyone talking about your show is good. I just want to say, but yeah, I get the concept of her sitting in front of a big radio Andy sign bashing an Andy show. Um, maybe shouldn't have been clipped for social media. She is entitled to the opinion and what she said isn't that bad. And he was like, and she was on the show the night prior saying good things. Well, of course, like what's she going to tell you to your face? It's boring.
39:50Claudia Oshry:Yeah, and you can also find the season boring, but find things that you like about it. I just want to say that's exactly my experience. It is a boring season, and I'm enjoying it. Yeah, she likes the cast. So if she's going on Watch Your Heaven's Live, she can share all the good thoughts that she has. And if she's going on a tea-filled podcast, she can share her negative thoughts. The clipping it and posting it is wild.
40:09Jackie Oshry:It's just bad management. And I think that's more his frustration than directly at Sarah Jessica Keller. Yeah, she's allowed to think the season's boring.
40:17Claudia Oshry:that's not even a big deal or a nasty thing to say. Or like a hot take. But the fact that they would clip it, like highlighting this moment where she's criticizing essentially their boss's work, is very stupid.
40:30Jackie Oshry:No, and so I think, and when I listened to him, he felt like he was more mad at whoever let the clip get clipped rather than her saying it. Right. Because like the headlines are making it seem like he's beefing with Sarah Michelle. And I feel like she probably has like a huge pit. Like she really didn't do anything wrong. I hope that like, I think she thinks like she's blacklisted from Watch What Happens Live. Like I hope she reached out because the only thing is like Andy maybe shouldn't have said it on his radio show. He should have said it in like the corporate meeting. Like you know what I mean?
40:55Jackie Oshry:Yeah.
40:56Claudia Oshry:But I don't think that's how he rolls. And if she had said that and they didn't clip it and even if it's still like surface somehow someone else clipped it like they wouldn't be at fault. She's allowed to talk about the show and say something like this isn't like Kim Jong-un's North Korea where we can't speak.
41:08Jackie Oshry:No I think if it went viral on like a T channel and like the page six official didn't post it I don't think he would have been upset.
41:14Claudia Oshry:The fact that they posted it, something that's like negative speaking about their bosses is bad form. It just is.
41:21Jackie Oshry:Here's the equivalent. It's been using Toast Studio to record good guys talking about our merch being poor quality or something. You know, like that's really the equivalent. And you know what? Andy's right.
41:32Claudia Oshry:Or it'd be like. Like someone at Unwell. Oh, that's a better example. Like saying that they didn't like the Hannah Montana special. At a clipping. like say someone had a guest. Right, right. Harry Jousey had a guest that didn't like the Hannah Montana special. But then unwell posting it. Yes. Yes. Or Harry Jousey's podcast.
41:54Jackie Oshry:But if Harry Jousey had someone on who said they didn't like the Hannah Montana special, that's fine. They're entitled to their opinion. But if he clipped it.
41:59Claudia Oshry:If he clipped it.
41:59Jackie Oshry:That's a great example. Yeah.
42:01Claudia Oshry:Like embarrassing his boss. Yeah. That's, you're still in a workplace environment. Like you still have bosses. But the guest is allowed to say
42:08Jackie Oshry:what the guest wants.
42:09Claudia Oshry:But like don't highlight it.
42:10Jackie Oshry:No, that's a really good analogy. I like that.
42:13Claudia Oshry:Thank you.
42:14Jackie Oshry:Okay, let's talk about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. It was kind of a weird episode.
42:16Claudia Oshry:Yeah, it was a weird episode.
42:17Jackie Oshry:There were two or like three benchmark fights. And like it was - I thought there were two or three. I thought there was - Like three or four. It was just a tough night to be like a Bose apologist because like up until recently, she's done nothing wrong. Yeah. So it's like she's very easy to stand. She's just going like a little hard on Amanda. And her and Erica were in the car. This happened last episode, so you might have seen it. chat GBTing Amanda Francis and like reading a lot of the criticisms about her. You know, chat like just sums up. And Sutton was like, this feels really mean-spirited because they were just sort of alluding to like her business being a scam.
42:52Jackie Oshry:And Sutton was like, this feels really mean-spirited and she went and told Amanda. And Sutton's like getting really emotional about this. She's like, you know, when I was in this group, I had just launched my store and everyone was really supportive and so like I just wanted to, she started crying and I'm like, okay, calm down. She told Amanda. So Amanda finds out and Amanda's like really pissed and they split up for the day. everyone except for Dorit, Erica, and Kyle goes to this vineyard. And that's where they have this sort of like moronic argument where I don't even know what they're talking about.
43:17Jackie Oshry:I don't know what Bose is upset with Amanda for. Amanda's now upset with Bose for the mask comment and for now like reading negative reviews. Like she's like, what are you implying? And well, Bose is like, put your walls down. Like we don't know you. Yeah, let me put my walls down with these people who keep making fun of me. And like her gripe is that like Amanda's walls aren't down. And I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? Like Like, it's the first time I've ever been like Bo's. And then what gets even crazier is there's something weirder going on here. Because, like, Amanda's business is that she sells digital courses.
43:47Jackie Oshry:And those digital courses help you manifest things in your life. So, yeah, it does sound very scammy.
43:51Claudia Oshry:But people with their own money and their own free will are buying them.
43:54Jackie Oshry:We think it's stupid.
43:56Claudia Oshry:Yeah. But people buy whatever they want. Some people think buying bags is stupid. They can buy whatever they want. Right. So it's not a scam. It's just, like, dumb. It's not like she's selling courses and then you don't get the course. Correct. or like an ML, MLM. Yeah, but again, you have free will.
44:11Jackie Oshry:Agreed. Then the weird thing is that, so Amanda's like, well, let me ask ChatGBT about Bose. And it's the same thing. You know, Bose is XYZ, but here are criticisms of her. You know, she has really short tenure jobs. People have accused her courses of being, I'm like, wait, Bose sells courses? Because to me, well, yes, I think anybody can buy whatever they want. To me, the sort of benchmark of a grifter is someone who sells courses. like digital courses. When I see people shilling them online, I'm like, oh God, it's the modern MLM. It's a pyramid scheme, like it's insane. So Bose, who up until this point to me had like quite literally never done anything wrong in her entire life, is being really hard on Amanda.
44:50Jackie Oshry:And then I'm like, wait, you also sell courses? So now the whole thing feels like competitive and then Amanda realizes it too. And she's like, everything she's accusing me and my courses of is what her and her courses, like it's so stupid. I felt like I was losing brain cells the entire argument. And it didn't end. I don't know where they winded up. And, like, honestly, it was a bad look for Bo's. Then, while they're going winery, whatever, Amanda, no, Erica, Dorit, and Kyle go for gelato. And I guess Erica and Kyle sort of agreed to have, like, an intervention with Dorit. But it was such an ambush.
45:25Jackie Oshry:And I have to say, I'm obviously team Dorit, so, like, maybe you guys want to agree with me. It was such a bad look for Erica. because up until this point, she's tried her best to mediate while also always leaning. Like, you know, she's like center right, you know, center Kyle. She went full. And I thought to read, handled it like a queen. She just straight up left. Like she got in the car, even though they took one car to town and the girls were stranded there for 30 minutes. She just went home. It was so not conducive. And Kyle was just basically saying, you're mad at me for saying all these things, but everyone's saying them.
45:55Jackie Oshry:She made sure to cite Bose as saying them and Rachel saying them and the whole group is saying them. so it's bows rachel to read erica and kyle everyone's saying you're dead you know so then she leaves like she's like i'm not doing this then that night they have dinner and like they know they're gonna have to talk about it and kyle is talking to the girls at drinks before to get there she's telling everyone she's trying to orchestrate this huge intervention and bows and rachel clock it immediately they're like why are you saying us all like yeah i said we run on to time like she cited one thing that kyle said in the hamptons and yeah rachel was like yeah i have friends like who just run on their own time it's like annoying and rude but like i wasn't like concerned i she said i just meant to read i didn't know that this is what she's not always been like like what are you talking about and she and eric uh uh kyle was like and bose when i called you from the hamptons you agreed like and bose was like well you called me and i was just like talking to you like what are you talking about so i like that they all like immediately didn't she was really trying so it was a very failed orchestration and everybody saw right through it which i really appreciated but it's just like her and erica and it's a bad look for erica something about dorit bugs kyle so much so when they start the conversation at the dinner and of course the episode ends like the second the dinner starts um dorit's like why are you just so obsessed with what i'm doing like my spending like and kyle's like i don't mean i don't care that you spent your book advance on uh kelly and she's like i think you do like why are you even bringing that up and kyle like kind of flips like you see like something about dorit is really pissing her off And even to Kyle was like, Kyle was like, you know, I'm also separated and going through a hard time.
47:24Jackie Oshry:And to it's like, yeah. And you tell us everything's perfect. Like, well, well, I need to now be concerned for you. You tell me everything's fine. You don't want to share anything. Even when you were going through like your, your manic episode, you didn't tell anyone until after, like we were all asking for it. Like, and she basically said at the end of the day, like you could say whatever you want, but I don't trust you. That's why you get mad when I say something, not bows, but I don't trust you. Like, yeah, that's it. And if we don't have trust, We don't have anything. And she's just so bothered that like now two years in a row, the new person has come in.
47:50Jackie Oshry:The new person who was very well received by the audience. Everybody loved Bo's. The second she came, everybody loves Rachel. And both of them just immediately.
47:57Claudia Oshry:Like Dorit.
47:58Jackie Oshry:Like Dorit. And I believe those friendships are really genuine. I think Kyle sees them as like Dorit being strategic. But I don't think. I don't think Dorit has time to be strategic. Correct.
48:06Claudia Oshry:I don't think she has a moment to be fake or think like take a step. That's not the one that she wants to take because like she's just trying to get through. And it's funny. It's like, yeah, you don't seem okay. she's not okay yeah and she's not okay her life is in shambles she said that also do you think that like kyle's beef with dorit is because of mauricio and dorit i mean it definitely is not like helping for sure mauricio loves dorit also very quickly at the beginning of the episode
48:31Jackie Oshry:they just remarked on natalie because i guess last week she like lied and then she like came to breakfast and she was like oh i just feel like i really handled last night so poorly i just want the network invested in her they brought her on all the trips they thought she might be a friend of her all her scenes were cut her one thing that wasn't like just bad and she i saw she posted on her instagram being like this is my first time like it was just like l she gotta go i don't even
48:57Claudia Oshry:care about the mask no mask because like i live in a world where like you don't i guess if you're on a tv show it is your job to remember everything that you said that was said you're gonna be asked about it because like sometimes it's an offhand comment just like forget it yeah except now it's
49:11Jackie Oshry:Did I say that? Now it's like a long list of things that just Bose keeps putting on Amanda. And it's like, it's mean. And you know me, I don't even like Amanda. But like, she needs to lay off a little bit.
49:20Claudia Oshry:I agree. And it's week after week after week. And it's like weeks, months on campaign.
49:24Jackie Oshry:Bose doesn't have a legitimate issue with Amanda. Tariq does. Tariq can say whatever she wants about Amanda. Like, Amanda came for her first.
49:30Claudia Oshry:Yeah. What is... She's not like sharing or opening up in the way that she would want. Well, first of all, no one wants to open up to people who they're not getting along with. Yeah. Even people that you are getting along with. It takes them people every time to open up. like big fucking whoop yeah it was kind of a bad episode for bows so i'm just gonna erase it from
49:45Jackie Oshry:my memory it happened because i still stand yeah of course and like i'm team whatever couch dorit bows and rachel are on dweem team dweem team and erica wants to join she's more no erica's like so deep in her friendship with kyle which i respect like she's loyal to her friends but like it's
50:01Claudia Oshry:it's it's not good anymore what i'll say is i imagine that it is exhausting to be good friends with Dorit for the last few years. And Kyle, Erica has been doing it for a long time and maybe she's tired. Bose and Rachel, they're new to all this. They might have a little bit more stamina and patience for Dorit at this moment. But like Erica, who's like seen this show for so many years, like might just be a little bit at her wit's head. Over it. That's fair.
50:25Jackie Oshry:All right. Let's dive into Queenie and Weenie, our final segment of the week, where Jackie and I give out two awards. Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week, they're exactly as they sound. If you did something great this week, you might find yourself Queenie. And if you did something really lame as fuck, you might find yourself weaning.
50:39Claudia Oshry:I feel like we have the same queenie. My queenie of the week who's one of the queenies of my life that had just a banner week was Miley Cyrus. Okay, mine was actually Alex Cooper. I feel like she did a lot
50:48Jackie Oshry:for the world this week.
50:49Claudia Oshry:She did a lot.
50:50Jackie Oshry:The Hannah Montana special like was objectively good. Her interview with Jessie Draper like I was sat the fuck down. I feel like a lot of news was made this week. Our lives were made our job was made easy. Yeah, she was like stirring the pot. She was doing the work. And I appreciate that and she also gets like a lot of people are really hard on her like because she's not like you know uh Diane Sawyer and it's like it's fucking call her daddy I don't know what you're expecting so I feel like she deserves to be queenie okay so we're simpatico in yeah Montana but I do want to say just like a small honorable mention my queenie
51:20Claudia Oshry:was almost Justin Timberlake I thought the same thing because like but I'm sorry he's still got a DUI yeah of course that is weenie behavior if there was a category of like someone who's emerged from the weenie box Justin Timberlake yeah is moving up in the world now I roll my weenie and I don't know what I meant by it. Well, I'll share my weenie of the week is Pascal. Love that. Love that. He's so the weenie and people are thinking that like Chapel paid him to like say this. Because his reputation is already sullied. Like what does he have to lose? Yeah. And to take the heat off of her. And I think everyone just wants to find a way to blame Chapel.
51:51Claudia Oshry:And I just want to say like, I'm so down.
51:53Jackie Oshry:Yeah, me too. But this is a little. But it's a reach.
51:55Claudia Oshry:Yeah. And don't worry, she'll do something again next. Like it won't be long.
51:58Jackie Oshry:What do you think I meant by executive? when I wrote down my weenie of the week.
52:03Claudia Oshry:Maybe like an executive who made a poor decision. Yes, that's what I'm thinking, but who? ABC, like if you think that they shouldn't have pulled the season. No, that's not what I was thinking. And the executives at Hulu. Or maybe like Netflix, they just raised their prices again.
52:17Jackie Oshry:They did, that's extremely weenie like behavior. But I'm thinking maybe I was thinking the executive who like won't like put the cameras up for Salamo.
52:25Claudia Oshry:I don't think that's what you're thinking.
52:27Jackie Oshry:What the fuck did I mean when I wrote that? It'll come to you, update us. Share it on Monday. Yeah. That's our show, y 'all. Yeah, y 'all. Thanks so much for listening to the show. I want to share with you a little bit of a podcast. Turned out to be a Narafi after all. So true. I jinxed it.
52:39Claudia Oshry:A nice regular one. I know. I think we were just talking really quickly and we got all our fire points out like we didn't circle the drain.
52:44Jackie Oshry:That's like on. We are habit stackers. We are time managers. Like efficacy is everything to us. So, yeah, that makes total sense. Like you got your day back. You're welcome. Yeah.
52:53Claudia Oshry:We just got you a couple minutes back. They're like, no, please don't. No, but Ben and I were talking about how like when we're driving and we're speeding, like we're like you can literally shave the minutes. You can get time back. Please don't. Ben is so crazy like that. Like and I don't want to become like him. But like, yeah, no, you could like have an extra three minutes. You know what you could do with those three minutes? Poop. A poop. Like I could post to my Instagram, like change a call. I can answer an email that I otherwise would take 12 hours. Like, right. So don't even tell me what it could be done with three minutes.
53:23Jackie Oshry:Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast of the Millennium Morning Show, where we deliver the fast five stories. you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give us a video a thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast and every podcast can be found. So that's Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher, Public Radio, I already cast box all the places we have. You can find us a totally five-star review about a beautiful setting and wickedly talented we are. Hope you guys have an amazing weekend and we'll see you on Monday.
53:38Claudia Oshry:But she's not filming. Love ya.
53:41Jackie Oshry:Bye.
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