In short
The Toast’s Friday episode mixes pop-culture recaps and “Fast Five” news. Main lead story: Alandria “breaking her silence” after Nicolandria dating rumors circulate, plus commentary on why her response looks petty and not legally meaningful. Other stories cover Kylie Kelsey’s take on Taylor and Travis’s wedding, Kim Kardashian promoting her energy drink brand “Update,” and a few additional entertainment/social updates.
Guest backgrounds
No guests appear in this transcript; hosts are Jackson Claude and Margo (referred to as “Miss Margo”).
Key claims
- Alandria commented “I hope you have your lawyers ready” after a Dumois DM claimed she was dating Travis Scott for months and that a PR relationship ended; the comment is later missing because Dumois says Alandria blocked her.
- The hosts argue threatening lawsuits over an innocuous rumor is a bad look and distracts from the “fraud” scandal involving Nicolandria.
- Kylie Kelsey says Taylor and Travis’s wedding was intimate and that they’re already close as family.
- Kim’s “Update” energy drink campaign is framed as a high-production promo, not real news.
Notable examples
Dumois DM/submissions; Travis Scott rumor; Taylor/Travis wedding “family” hangout; Kim’s “bar exam failure” jokes in the Update ad; Outshine frozen snacks ad.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOWeekend Kickoff and Margot's Arrival
1:08 to 2:29
Hosts discuss the excitement of the weekend and Margot's presence.
“I know, but it always feels like summer's just about to get started.”
Nicolandria Scandal Update
2:29 to 3:32
Discussion of the Nicolandria scandal and the hosts' thoughts on it.
“One thing about me, it's like I get the bills paid here.”
Vlogging Adventures
3:32 to 4:21
The hosts talk about their recent vlogs and upcoming content.
“Sorry, I'm keeping us on track in that sense.”
Back Pain and Co-Sleeping
4:21 to 5:36
A host shares their experience with back pain and co-sleeping issues.
“But it was the co-sleeping that did me in.”
Television Recap and Characters
5:36 to 7:35
Hosts discuss character developments and storylines in a TV show.
“So what's weird to me, it seems early in the show, but they're like very much a couple.”
Music and Relationships in TV
7:35 to 8:13
Discussion on music, relationships, and character dynamics in the show.
“We didn't waste so much time on like a miscommunication where it's like he thinks she doesn't like her.”
Guest Appearances and Concerts
8:13 to 9:10
Hosts share anecdotes about guest appearances and concert experiences.
“She reminds me of Trina Vega plus Jeanette McCurdy.”
Concert Cancellation and Special Guests
14:00 to 15:20
Learn about a Bon Jovi concert that was partially canceled and the surprise guests.
“Ben was like, I saw every song I wanted.”
Fast Five Stories Introduction
15:20 to 15:34
The hosts introduce the Fast Five stories segment and discuss their vlogs.
“Okay I think with that we can get into the Fast Five stories.”
Fast Five Stories Introduction
15:37 to 16:43
The hosts introduce the Fast Five stories segment and discuss their vlogs.
“Claudia, I was looking at my phone this morning and realized my home screen is actually embarrassing.”
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Fast Five Stories Introduction
18:06 to 19:16
The hosts introduce the Fast Five stories segment and discuss their vlogs.
“So you guys are definitely familiar with Spindrift, the beverage company.”
Fast Five Stories Introduction
19:39 to 20:44
The hosts introduce the Fast Five stories segment and discuss their vlogs.
“They have 80 locations, and they're growing to 100 by the end of the year.”
Alandria's Dating Rumors and Legal Threats
22:24 to 25:01
Discussion surrounding Alandria's alleged relationship with Travis Scott and her reaction to rumors.
“Well no not humorless because it's not a joke.”
Nicolandria's Impact on Pop Culture
25:01 to 28:00
Analyzing the cultural significance of Nicolandria and its reception in pop culture.
“And like when we think about, like there have been certain moments in pop culture.”
Cost of Living in the City
28:00 to 29:00
Discussing the rising costs of food and drinks in the city.
“like are 20 so crazy i don't even know like when when you come home and say like my blowout was 85 I'm like, is that good or bad?”
Heartbreak and Public Perception
29:00 to 30:20
Exploring the dynamics of heartbreak and its public implications.
“whether things people are like we're supporting you or whatever it's a press moment so like Like now we're just like reading about how like you're being bitter, you know?”
Updates on Reality TV Casts
30:20 to 32:00
Sharing updates on various cast members from reality TV shows and their lives.
Friendships and Relationships Post-Show
32:00 to 36:20
Analyzing friendships and relationships among reality TV participants after the show.
“And honestly, I just feel like Nick's gigs are going to go to Bryce.”
Kylie and Travis's Wedding Insights
36:20 to 39:20
Discussing Kylie Kelsey's insights on Taylor and Travis's wedding.
“Yeah, it must be nice to get new people you can completely trust.”
Kim Kardashian's Energy Drink Promotion
39:20 to 42:01
Kim Kardashian's marketing strategy for her energy drink called Update.
“Kim Kardashian is using her bar exam failure to sell energy drinks.”
Debating Legal Legacies
42:01 to 43:00
Exploring the significance of JFK Jr.'s legal career and public persona.
“Aside from being JFK Jr., what did he do great as a lawyer?”
Debating Legal Legacies
43:07 to 44:30
Exploring the significance of JFK Jr.'s legal career and public persona.
“Alchine is a refreshing frozen snack made with real simple ingredients like real fruit and fruit juice to help you snack brighter.”
Debating Legal Legacies
44:33 to 45:51
Exploring the significance of JFK Jr.'s legal career and public persona.
“So my cardboard cadets, it's time to lock in.”
Debating Legal Legacies
45:55 to 47:14
Exploring the significance of JFK Jr.'s legal career and public persona.
“So most people just assume that if they're taking supplements every day, they're getting the benefits.”
Debating Legal Legacies
47:30 to 48:39
Exploring the significance of JFK Jr.'s legal career and public persona.
“Change up your routine for the spring sunshine.”
Jerry O'Connell's Relationship Revelations
48:51 to 56:00
Discussion on Jerry O'Connell's admission of being a bad boyfriend to Juliana Rancic.
“So Jerry O 'Connell is making news, admitting that he was a terrible boyfriend to his ex, Juliana Ransig.”
Legacy of Julianna Rancic and Ryan Seacrest
56:00 to 57:24
Exploring the impact of Julianna Rancic and Ryan Seacrest on media and celebrity culture.
“And Ryan Seacrest left some little ones.”
Tom Holland's Upcoming Biopic
57:24 to 58:22
Discussion about Tom Holland's casting in a Fred Astaire biopic and his potential.
The Risks of Biopics
58:22 to 1:00:02
Debating the impact of biopics on actors' careers and public perception.
Anne Hathaway and Media Controversies
1:00:02 to 1:02:20
Examining Anne Hathaway's past controversies and her recent apology to a reporter.
“You know, did you see the Hollywood Reporters, like, or Variety, one of them, is getting shit because they wrote up a thing on the Odyssey, like, ranking the performances of all the actors.”
Ethics of Celebrity Gossip
1:02:20 to 1:03:42
Discussing the ethics behind sharing celebrity gossip and rumors in media.
“like sent her a million dollars, got her a gift and like it was diffused.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Jackie Schimmel:Today's episode of The Toast is brought to you by Starbucks. At Starbucks, full and part-time baristas can build meaningful careers while getting industry-leading benefits like comprehensive health coverage and up to 18 weeks of paid parental leave without missing a step in their careers. Because at Starbucks, great benefits and opportunities to grow are just the start. Learn more at starbucks.com slash partners.
0:34Good morning, girlies.
0:36Jackie Schimmel:It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show. The fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Friday. Hope everybody's having an amazing kickoff to the weekend. Period. Kickoff. Kickoff. Kick it off, girl. Gotta kick it up. It's summer kickoff. It's the weekend kickoff with The Toast. It's the summer kickoff even though summer's in full swing. I know, but it always feels like summer's just about to get started. Summer. Summer. Summer. Yes, it's Friday. It's very exciting.
1:18Huge news for the community.
1:20Jackie Schimmel:Yeah, and it feels like Friday because Miss Margo came to the house and she's our weekend warrior. She's our weekend ward. So wet. And that too. But you know they call them weekend warriors. Like the young professionals. City slickers. Who like live for the weekend. Are always like traveling and such. That's so Margot. So she's a weekend warrior. And that's how you know it's the weekend when Margot has landed. Well, the eagle has landed. The statue's landed. We haven't seen her. No, but she's allegedly in the house. I haven't seen her though. We heard her stomping around last night. We did. She actually woke me up with those big feet.
1:50Stomping around with those big feet. But yeah, legend says she's somewhere in the house. I didn't see her car, actually. I didn't either. I didn't look for it, though. Not that the driveway is so huge, but. But I didn't see it either. The ghost of Sachi's past. Maybe she caught a ride? Maybe she left early this morning and, like, went somewhere? No.
2:11Jackie Schimmel:I didn't see it. Sachi Lou, where are you? Where are you? That's a good point. I really did not see her car. No, me neither. It was actually, like, nice. I was able to, like, breeze out of the driveway. No one. Unencumbered. No obstacles. unencumbered you're so unencumbered by the family vehicles yeah um we have a lot to discuss because obviously things are happening things are developing as the leading source on nicolandria incorporated colon the most fraudulent scandal of the 21st century um things are happening alandria's you know fighting back yeah fighting back against what i'm not sure i'm not sure punching the air as the kids say of course that's our lead story and i don't want to i don't want to dive right in because i don't want to like give air to the allegations that we're hiding our personal lives of course of course sorry i didn't mean to skip ahead and dive into the allegations people love the pffb so like much like you won't let queenie and weenie die i won't let the preface that's my favorite part of the show only thing is that like you like are actively trying to get queenie and weenie to die i'm not trying to get pffb to die no i feel like you do it subtly no i You're subtle in your ways.
3:20One thing about me, it's like I get the bills paid here. I do the advertisements. You're just eager to read your ads. I'm not eager. I'm just always keeping top of mind for the flow of the show. We can't let too much time go by. We can't let too much little go by. Sorry, I'm keeping us on track in that sense. I understand, but the PFFV is why they come to see us. Of course, no, and the PFFV will never suffer.
3:41Jackie Schimmel:No, no, never. However, yesterday we did vlog pretty much the whole day. We did. We're such vloggers. I'm about to get like. I don't want to give away too much of the vlog, but it's giving vlogmas up in here. It is. We're at a vlog a day because we did one on Wednesday. We did one yesterday. And we actually are filming something today. It's a vlog. But it's different. The Hamptons are ripe for vlog. There are so many viral establishments. It's so pargy. You could go the Ina route. You could go the Surf Lodge route. Go Rage. We're obviously not doing that. But we're actually filming a documentary tonight.
4:14That's the format of the vlog. let's yeah we don't want to spoil it but like big things coming to patreon yeah including the vlog
4:21Jackie Schimmel:we filmed yesterday so i don't want to give away too much of what we did yesterday because it's in the vlog right so we won't pff be too hard we won't however since i wrapped the vlog here's what's happened to me i've thrown my back out what i didn't know that i know i'm like fighting it it's like if i make one wrong move it's gonna rip you're on the edge when i was driving today i actually like wanted to self-drive because i was like this is too hard you put your heating pad on I did and that really helped. But it was the co-sleeping that did me in. I must have hit a weird position. Yeah. There was a lot of co-sleeping going on last night.
4:54Jackie Schimmel:That'll do it. With a lot of different children and different ways and it got me. And so I think I might have to take a back seat tonight. Wow. You know, might stay behind the camera for the documentary. Oh, I thought you meant in your bed. You might have to take a back seat to the co-sleeping. And I also finally was able to resume off campus. I've crossed the hurdle. The personal boundary that was crossed. And you know what? It was hard. It was just such a shame it was that scene that came next. Of course. If it was any other scene. Just seeing it through the landlord's eyes. But once I got past that, I was able to resume festivities.
5:33Jackie Schimmel:And it's actually crazy because now I'm at the part where they're about to go home for Thanksgiving. Oh, yeah. So what's weird to me, it seems early in the show, but they're like very much a couple. It felt like what would happen at the end. Now, I know there are still a few things that have to happen. Of course. Like the scholarship. Oh, but of course, the performance. Yes. The showcase, excuse me. The showcase, yes. There's always a showcase. And then, like, you know, Logan's in the background, like, pining for her. I will say, there are, like, a couple of storylines that just, like, straight up die.
6:02And Logan pining for her is one of them.
6:04Jackie Schimmel:Is there a lot more of show left? And also, what's so crazy is they showed their romance. So, the episode ends with that loudspeaker scene, which I loved. I love when she got on loudspeaker. What did she say on loudspeaker? When she was singing to him in the hockey. Yeah. Now that. And she actually, you'll love this. They just released. People have been begging. So many of the songs that she sings, like Cherry Pie, go viral. She just released a version of that song with Niall Horan, who I guess is a fan of the show. Love that. Yeah. So that was so great. I love the loudspeaker. I'm like, I'm back.
6:32Jackie Schimmel:Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the next episode, they have this whole montage of them screwing. Screwing. And then the opening credits. and like that's their whole relationship it literally happens before the opening credits and now it's like thanksgiving and we're back to i don't know what's gonna happen but like you'll see i hate when they fast forward through the good stuff yeah the book it's pretty true to the book um because i recently remembered i actually did read it and it's there's a lot of you know personal development personal storylines like that are going to happen thanksgiving is a big part of it like that sort of like brings them together and then what eventually like wait hey yeah hey oh you and there's just a lot like there's a lot more like the best is yet to come i feel like i'm not even halfway through and like and they're in a relationship and like the deal worked i kind of like want to stop watching now because i like how it's how it's ended no they have to grow like they have growing pains you'll see you'll see it's great okay but i'm like if i never picked it back up and like we we called it here i really enjoyed this show they're very cute they have to throw like a hurdle in i was so glad that she didn't waste too much time on justin i was so glad that We didn't waste so much time on like a miscommunication where it's like he thinks she doesn't like her.
7:41So he goes back. And he like lets her go for himself.
7:43Jackie Schimmel:He goes back to the other girl. And just as she's about to tell him, oh, I like you. He sees her with the other. Hey. So like the fact that everyone put on their big kid pants and told each other how they felt. And there is no miscommunication was major. Just a little behind the scenes. Justin is dating in real life the roommate. I see that. Yeah. I honestly knew you were about to say her The roommate is the subject for season 2 Have you gotten to her storyline yet a little bit? A little bit she's like breaking up with a guy She just snuck into a jeep before Thanksgiving She reminds me so much of a mixture Of What's her name From Victorious's sister Trina Vega Who by the way you're gonna freak You know she's a huge toaster Daniella Monet She just went on Good Guys And she was talking about how like swirly, pargy she's like the biggest tozer.
8:33She reminds me of Trina Vega
8:35Jackie Schimmel:plus Jeanette McCurdy. She definitely reminds me of someone, I don't know if you've nailed it like in my mind, but she, I thought she reminded me of someone like in our own life. With a little bit of Jen Affleck. Jen Affleck is a good call. Sprinkled on top. Okay. I'm not like loving the call, but. She has like the manic energy of Jeanette. Yeah. With the look of Trina and Jen. I'm telling you. Well, you should definitely keep going because it's good. And if you like it now, it only gets better. Okay, cool, cool, cool. And then you just watch it in secret and in solitude. So take your time. Why?
9:11Jackie Schimmel:It's actually not cool that the two of them are making Justin still work on the song. Have you gotten to the song yet? No, I haven't heard it. But it's like he did her a favor. And now Garrett comes to all the rehearsals to rub it in his face. They literally honeypotted him. When they trapped him, they made her. She's so true. They made her his dream girl. Yeah. Then she denied him and now they're going to rub it in his face and he's helping her get a huge scholarship. I don't want to spoil it. That should be his money too. I don't want to spoil it. He's doing half the work. But like they make up a song together and then she like ends up throwing it away.
9:47Like she doesn't use it. So he does all this work for nothing. Okay.
9:50Jackie Schimmel:So it's even worse, but it's like he's, he has no reason to help her. It's not even like he's getting credit or anything. They should have like. I think he was just like, you know, he's like a musician and he's called to the music. No, no, no. But there's a lot of rehearsals. Like this is a part-time job. yellow yellow haze i think i have such a bad song but it's like every day he's spending so much time working with this girl he's not getting his classes are suffering his social life is suffering and they're just like no it's true rubbing salt in the wound it's actually true so i feel bad for him even though i i don't like him and i like garrett graham west of course what's not to like he reminds me of miles teller because he has that really charming smile like that's what it is yeah i I feel like he's like this generation's Miles Teller of like, wow, of good looking, like leading man.
10:36You know, he was like the face of Reebok, which our sister Margo like had the foresight when the show was blowing up. She like nails him down. And now I just saw he was the face of like a was it Garnier or like one of those big shampoo because he has like curly hair. So he had like a curl routine. He was obviously like naked the entire commercial, but it's a good commercial.
10:53Jackie Schimmel:And then also I had a flashback to that Kid Leroy dancing. and have I seen that yet in the show because he danced a little bit on Drunk Shakespeare and it was to a kid. Oh, you mean like the dance move? Yeah. I don't know when he does it. Okay, because he danced to a Kid Leroy song at Drunk Shakespeare. Yes, so the song is like attached to him and his character. So I was like, is this the big moment? But it was giving nothing. There was nothing. I don't remember. The Drunk Shakespeare scene was one of my least favorites in the entire show. Okay. Just like fun fact, so I kind of blocked that out.
11:21Jackie Schimmel:Yeah, it's obviously like not my favorite. I'm so glad you're watching it. I'm so glad you're liking it. Yeah. Yeah, I am. I'm obviously watching Mad Men like I know nobody cares about my decades long recap let me just say that Peggy I forgot like the big thing I don't want to spoil it but that she like yes yes yes um and she's a real piece of shit like I just I can't stand her that's it yeah that's that's true no matter when when you watch it it's true I remember when I when I watched it the first time I also walked away with that feeling yes of course oh um okay wait you haven't gone to thanksgiving yet so just keep us posted it's about to be thanksgiving she's going to support him in the book like and they they actually replicated it quite well it's such an important scene like what goes down at phil's house okay well my back is out so i might have to watch tv in bed today yeah um what else like i'm again afraid of jacuz so oh well i feel like i shared like what happened to me between nine and nine between nine and one margo woke you up oh margo woke me up with her big feet and ben oh right ben ben ben got home super late last night because he was in the city all day like recording podcasts hanging out with craig so you want to hear the most classic ben thing ever he was like hawking me all day he's like you know we're recording good guys he went into the city for like a bunch of stuff and he banged out a couple of episodes with guests craig went on ben said it's like a historic episode with craig really because i guess like craig and ben really haven't discussed the fact that craig and kyle reunited like right right right and like boys like don't really care but like ben was like i guess we should talk about it and i had like a really beautiful open and honest conversation it's all on the podcast ben says it's like actually gonna blow the bravo universe off like that oh i'm sure that it will i wonder what was said i'll find out so we had like three or four um interviews booked and they didn't have a guest for like the last one and i was like call taylor schrecker like she's always available and her show's coming out this week the house of stassi it's like a perfect time to have her on she wasn't available ben was like whatever i'll just i'll figure it out and like of course like that's not how things work like you have to book people of course taylor strecker can't come he's walking into the studio who does he run into jared freed who has a couple of hours to kill jared freed who went on good guys jared freed isn't that crazy yeah like that's so ben like things just working out has he been on good guys yet i think so maybe once on the jeege um so then ben was also in town for the bon jovi concert yeah and let me tell you ben had went with craig obviously and he had such a good time he was like ben is such a grandpa like facetiming me from concerts like i'm good you know how's craig did he say anything like is he filming ben like doesn't ask the questions because like right it's july they should be filming southern charm i'm sure that they are and like is he seeing anyone i don't know like ben doesn't know what to ask and i didn't send him in with like a list of questions and i think that's probably why people like him yeah and that's why like they continue to hang out with him not me like with my list yeah yeah and like going to the bathroom to text my sister what everyone said um bon jovi bon jovi ben calls me like once marga woke me up i was i was like up and ben's like i'm on my way home i'm like oh my god what happened to the concert he said bon jovi like had to cancel the concert after it had already started so he i think he was on stage for like an hour and a half ben said he literally played all the hits but he said listen i can't go on he has like this vocal cord injury he is refunding everyone or like you get new tickets even though Like, they literally saw almost the whole show.
14:41Ben was like, I saw every song I wanted. They did Living on a Prayer. Like. Yeah. So Ben will probably have to go back to the city for, like, the rescheduled show.
14:48Jackie Schimmel:Oh, really? Yeah. I don't know. He saw the whole thing. He said, like, he got, you know, and then he also got to get home at a sort of reasonable hour. You know who he brought out? Special guest. So random. Jared Freed. Close. The lead singer of Train. Oh, he's having, like, a good month. He is, because he was invited to Taylor's wedding. Yeah. And now Bon Jovi brought him on stage at MSG. Yeah. So Ben had a blast. so then at that point when Margot like my nine to nine it's like Margot woke me up so I was like you know might as well wait up that Ben was going to be home in like an hour so I waited up like such a good wife and then we fell asleep together.
15:17Jackie Schimmel:Beautiful. Yeah. Really beautiful. Okay I think with that we can get into the Fast Five stories. Like I'm bored by my own PFFB you know. The Fast Five stories. I don't know well it's all in the vlog. Yeah right. Honey put it in the vlog. It's time for the Fast Five stories that you that do need to know. And the Fast Five stories that you that do need to know are brought to you by Amazon Music. Claudia, I was looking at my phone this morning and realized my home screen is actually embarrassing. I have a different app for everything I'm listening to. Music in one place, podcasts in another, audiobooks somewhere else.
15:47It's just too much. I get it. As a sweeper, that can be obviously very frustrating. You don't have to live like that, Jackie. If you are constantly bouncing between apps just to find something to listen to, there's a better way. Amazon Music. I've been using Amazon Music Unlimited because it has my podcast, my music, and now audiobooks all in one app. It makes things so much easier. Oh, and speaking of audiobooks, I actually just started Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir.
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20:59Jackie Schimmel:Thank you, Turd Out. You're welcome. Our first story, Alandria is breaking her silence amid the reported Nicolandria split after Dumois circulated new dating rumors. so yesterday we shared that Dumois had shared some anonymous tip that Alandria was hooking up with Travis was hooking up with Travis Scott um the DM actually said uh that it's been for a few months yes but it said something like now that the PR relationship is over yeah she's been she's it was a shady submission she's been with Travis Scott Alandria commented and said I hope you have your lawyers ready because I have mine. Now, if you go to look for the comment, it's not there.
21:41Jackie Schimmel:Dumois. Because Elandria blocked Dumois. Dumois then commented again and said, update. It appears as though Elandria has blocked me. That's why her comment's missing, but I didn't delete it. It was there at one point. And she's hoping that she has her lawyers ready. Dumois sort of ate her up in the response because Dumois was like, yeah, I just DM'd you their letter. Like, I guess she did get a letter from Elandria. I just want to say, Elandria is so famous. And like, this is really not famous person behavior. Dumas like and the submissions are so harmless I think maybe at one point they were like this bible that people but like it's just not as powerful as it once was and now it's sort of like a after the fact people are like yeah I got a submission from Dumas it's like well you didn't tell us this before no and also it's like as a famous person there are worse things to happen than a rumor that you're dating one of the most famous rappers in the world absolutely I feel like this is actually a bad look for alandria i agree because letting people think it's true like that's great for you and if it's not true which like it probably isn't like who cares and it's not like and it's distracting people from talking about nick which like if we're let's we're gonna dive in we're gonna get to the fraud you know yeah but also it's not grounds for a lawsuit to say that like you're seeing someone that you're not seeing is it no no like factually she is wrong but also So she just like looks petty.
22:56And she looks humorless. Like seriously the most like. Well no not humorless because it's not a joke. She just looks like she's not acting her fame. Like yeah I guess. I don't know but it's just like so serious. It is. It's not that serious. And she hasn't spoken out at all about the relationship and like this is what you choose to engage with.
23:16Jackie Schimmel:Yeah. I feel like maybe she was mad not even about the Travis Scott thing but that the submission said now that the PR relationship is over. because that could it's also you know could be defunded well i could take you to court because i have proof like it's vr yeah yeah and then i mean that's just like so crazy to threaten lawyers over like a really innocuous rumor like this yeah and like dumas sort of now standing ten toes down so when i was thinking about like queenie and weenie i honestly feel that like dumas is both my queenie and my weenie this week because it was really lame of her to post the submissions like after the fact that's like the opposite of what she's supposed to do she's supposed to be this like what do you need to be anonymous for like if you're just not doing anything even remotely controversial but she's kind of you should see her fighting with the old nicolandria fans in the comments like she's kind of eating them up and it's queenie behavior after i'm sorry she did some of us have been fighting nicolandria fans before it was popular for a year yeah like and it's just crazy that now everyone sort of sees what we see yeah and acts like they saw it all along oh it's true you weren't there like where were you where you were alone you were not there We were alone.
24:22Jackie Schimmel:And like, it's fine that you want to be Nicolandria and like have a fake PR relationship. Of course. And like ride the coattails of this immensely successful show. And like it was the fans idea to put them together. So like we're just giving the people what they want. They're staying together for the fans, yeah. That's fine. Yeah. But don't spit in my face and tell me it's raining. Like it's over now. Like let's just call it what it was. Yes. Completely. So I just feel like this whole time when we've talked about Nicolandria, we've talked about how like Nick brings Alandria down. Like we watch that season.
24:50and Alandria was a queen and she remained a queen long after the season and we knew that this was a fake relationship and we knew it was going to end I don't know I never thought that like it would end and end up being like bad for Nicola for excuse me for Alandria herself because to me she's like
25:05Jackie Schimmel:untouchable and he's just there no when it ended it would be good for Alandria this is holding her back but for but now it's the audit you know yeah and it's like as an as an Alandria fan like historically myself I'm kind of like looking at her a little sideways like yeah and then this it's just kind of messy yeah yeah like engaging with Dumas is like a hard no I feel like any celebrity who's ever sort of like but also if you want to clap back about a dating rumor about yourself that's not true say it's like completely not true that she's never even met Travis Scott there are like funny better ways to do it that are not like I'm gonna sue you no it's so lame that's what I mean when she's humorless like she could have responded and been like this is news to me right at travis scott call me yeah you could have like played and like been fun but no now you just look like like a sore whatever yeah yeah it's a bad look and also like let's say it's not true i'd be more than happy to let people think that like yeah that's a good thing for people and if it is true like you can't threaten a lawsuit because it's true it wouldn't be your first fake relationship it would not be her first fake relationship very true this like remains my personal Roman Empire.
26:14And like when we think about, like there have been certain moments in pop culture.
26:17Jackie Schimmel:Laughing is hurting my back. Oh, I'm sorry. I'll cool down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, continue. I just think that like when people talk about huge moments in pop culture, like especially for the toast, like we always see like Scandaval, Wes Vandeval, Taylor, Frankie, Paul, like these huge peaks. Like these are career making moments for us. Nobody's going to look back and think of Nicolandra. Like I will. Yeah. And like in five years when we do like a Patreon going through old titles and everything's like Like, Nicolandria this, Nicolandria that. Like, we would otherwise have forgotten them. No, and somebody left a comment on our Instagram yesterday.
26:49Jackie Schimmel:They will be a footnote on the anals of pop culture history. But not on mine. They are the headline. They are a chapter. Yes. Somebody left a comment being like, you guys are always putting Nicolandria in your titles. Like, you're fans, for real. Yes. Yes. That's what we've been saying. Like, no one's listening to us. It's so frustrating. We're fans of what Nicolandria actually is. Not what you say. Which is a business. Thought it was. Yeah. We're business women ourselves. Oh, I respect a business. Yeah. That's why I'm drinking Lunan. I know. It looks like we're either subliminally. We have no affiliation with this brand.
27:24And I just want to say this water is extremely mid. It's genuinely water. I like the sparkling.
27:29Jackie Schimmel:I just want to say yesterday I had mine. I felt very compelled to finish it, which I did. I'm like, I'm never going to finish this, by the way. Cardboard. I know. Cardboard. I got a bagel this morning. Okay. and like everything in the hamptons is obviously like so expensive so color me shocked i got this big ass loon in water oh i have it right here a little orange juice to go with my bagel and a bagel what do you think that would cost in regular like in what do i think you paid yeah like 17 14 i thought that was a pretty good price yeah i don't even like i mean these waters i feel like are 20 so crazy i don't even know like when when you come home and say like my blowout was 85 I'm like, is that good or bad?
28:10Jackie Schimmel:Yeah. That's like when I went to St. Bar. It's like money is just different. Uh-huh. And it's like things that like a roast chicken at a restaurant, like even a really nice, it's like 40, usually between 25 and 40. Like it's 70. Like it's just like things are different. Yeah. That's where we are right now. So 14, that's good. Even though someone is probably watching being like, you got two drinks and a bagel. And a bagel is$1. Wait, a plain bagel with plain cream cheese. And also I asked them for a light layer because they always put too much. Well, they don't charge you less for that. But they should.
28:37Jackie Schimmel:so that's like really should be two dollars yeah in the city like a water an orange juice it's like four dollars but not a lunin and not a lunin and that's fresh squeeze you could taste the pulp i know i didn't like so it's also like you get what you pay for a little bit it's true you know it wasn't wasn't tropicana no well alandria
28:59Jackie Schimmel:i wouldn't be doing it this way yeah i just want to are you because a breakup like is an opportunity whether things people are like we're supporting you or whatever it's a press moment so like Like now we're just like reading about how like you're being bitter, you know? Do you think she's heartbroken? No. Like because if Nicolandria was real. Okay, let's separate. They have to go through heartbreak too. Yeah, but they're not. So that's good. Yeah. Like is he going to go to his DJ gigs and like cry? Cry? Upset? No. Like he is going to fall off. She is not. Fall off of what? Like they are. She lifted him up.
29:34Like he does DJ gigs. Like and people go.
29:36Jackie Schimmel:Yeah. yeah there's a lot of like there's space for a lot of djs i also saw huda mustafa got paparazzi did you see this like she's walking out it was so staged and they were like talking about her music and she said like the music industry has been so open like from she's actually like been really shocked at the reception from the music industry um since she released her song i saw that like her dream collaborator is rihanna which is so different i love like when people choose those sort of like alternative artists yeah she is one of the she remains like the craziest person i've ever seen on tv yeah and she's like really on like does she have any friends from her season it's crazy that like huda is from sierra's season and shelly and clark but she was on the outs even in the villa like the girls were fucking done with her by the end not done enough no agreed but like the fact that they didn't remain friends with her is not shocking no the fact that they to remain friends with Alandria which was like sister that's shocking yeah I also um have been following the current islanders like Kenzie she's out in the Hamptons I saw with Jaden and Caleb oh my god I saw um what's her man's name Dylan Dylan hate yeah he's giving me like real grifter vibes hate he posted a picture like with a corny ass caption about how becoming a girlfriend made her his girlfriend like you literally made her miserable now you see how much shockingly people like her so much out of the villa which i'm so happy for her that like she really is just like a nice girl yeah and like and she was just totally redeemed like yes she had like a bad few moments but like we have forgiven her and like and she's having a good time and he's like totally riding her coattails and like if she came out to like hatred he would have dumped her in a second yeah so i hated his caption but anyways they're all together and it made me realize i haven't seen the core four together at all no i know they all like did go to la with their couples and like i don't know do stuff got their hair done and like maybe recorded podcasts or whatever then a lot of no podcasts have come out that's true a lot of them went home individually a lot of them went home separately so like trinity and bryce both went to virginia together but zach and kata because he had to go to england and she went to new hampshire they separated did you see that he had to go to england because fans called immigration on him because of his visa i mean i've said it once i say it again like love island remains like one of the most toxic mentally ill fan hoods of all time that's insane yeah so he has to go sort out his visa trinity and bryce like are getting paparazzi everywhere they go they are so famous and then i also so i keeps coming up on my instagram that like all these big talent agencies keep announcing oh yes trinity signed with wma gersh signed anaya bryce went to uta like it's just so funny that they're all like getting their teams in order well i i had heard that like after there i read that article there was like the 10 days after the season they were like scheduled meetings the network scheduled for them with talent agencies and i guess that's all i don't know if they've always done that but that might be the flip side of this exclusivity contract that they signed it's like they're going to help them and be taken care of be talent yeah so they had like you know and those are major agencies which historically like have not signed reality tv people until those reality tv people have really proven themselves as like commercial successes bryce like is it's actually i do think that nick the timing of nicolandria and then bryce and trinity like couldn't be more perfect because Bryce is a DJ and they were like this beloved couple.
32:50And honestly, I just feel like Nick's gigs are going to go to Bryce. I forgot that he was a DJ.
32:54Jackie Schimmel:I didn't realize he was a DJ either. He did a lot of things. And Tumblr truck repairman. Garbage truck repairman? Yeah, he does garbage. He used to. Probably not anymore. Yeah. Now he probably won't. Yeah, like how Alandra used to make elevators. Oh, and Ian Sterling. Love that. Yeah, he had a field day with that. He really did. And Mel, I know everyone's job from Ian Sterling. Melanie worked in a bikini store. Melanie worked in a bikini store. Our Trinity worked at Home Depot. Did she? Uh-huh. Obsessed. Kada? No profession to speak of. It's giving student. Like Corbin. Yeah. He's a student. He just graduated.
33:29Corbin and Parmita are all over my TikTok.
33:31Jackie Schimmel:Oh, then there's the Miami gang of Corbin, Parmita, and Gabriel. Oh, and then Beatrice just won a huge medal for the long jump. Oh, congratulations. And she also has been hanging out with a lot of the CASA people, even though she didn't know them then. And I think Amora. And Sean's hanging out with nobody because he's too good for these people. And he has a child. I saw he went to an event. And they were asking him where his fit was from. And he said, oh, actually, my whole fit is from Shein because I got a care package from them. PR. It was so cute. That is cute. It was. It was very innocent.
34:08Jackie Schimmel:Caleb was hanging out with Nick at one point. Who's Nick? Alandria. He went to one of his DJ gigs. Oh, I saw that. Kayla might be in the Hamptons. Yes, with Jaden and Dylan and Hannah. And Hannah's there and Kenzie. For a cowboy colostrum. Yeah, right. Honestly, it's Love Island summer. It is. And it's fun to see who's remained friends. And what's crazy is the core four, their friendship won the season. That was like they were the final four because of their friendship. People just wanted them in. And they're the only ones not being friends right now. Also, the streets don't know if Melanie and Sincere are together.
34:42So like Melanie was one of the last people to come back to social media and post. And what she ended up posting was like a 20 thing carousel like photos. None of them with Sincere.
34:50Jackie Schimmel:Oh. She also dyed her hair pink, which is like giving breakup. Yeah. I fucking hope so. I think she also like needed some time to watch all the episodes. Right. And like gather information. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. I haven't seen Sincere once. Thank God. And it's been amazing. Yeah. And then I feel like we're forgetting about a couple. Soul. Have you been seeing Soul around? No. I know she did that like turned Instagram live and then that's it. she's been like wearing a lot of wigs you're kidding yeah her hair was one of the things i like most about her and every time she like wears a wig i'm like i i love how you look naturally um so but i haven't seen her like hanging out with anyone no oh and jen and gall photo shoots coffee it's a lot she has a bagel at pop-up that's my queen right there really cute i'm happy for everyone because like we said like the humiliating nature nature of the show and the things that they do on the show like they deserve every minute of this every fame every follower every dollar yeah so they've earned it they really have so it's it's fun to watch yeah okay next story kylie kelsey details taylor and travis's absolutely magical wedding kylie shared on her podcast on thursday not gonna lie she said i would like to say congratulations to tay and trab it was absolutely magical i'm so happy for them we love them so so dearly and it was only making it official because Taylor's been family now for quite some time so that's that she said for any additional information you can check in with Taylor and Travis because any of the details they want to share they can share otherwise it was intimate and incredible and full of love both for each other and everybody else's love for them um you know I like have long thought that like these two just like definitely hate each other they're so different but you know what now that the dust has settled i actually think that they're super close i do super close like the fact that taylor and travis like hung out with them right after their wedding and like they could have been by themselves they could have been with anyone and like they wanted to be with travis's brother and his wife like that's really sweet and i think taylor it's like super family oriented she has one brother who she's really close with she doesn't like a million siblings so it must be exciting to like be getting more family especially when like you know in her position there's probably not like a ton of people you could like trust wholeheartedly.
37:01Jackie Schimmel:Yeah, it must be nice to get new people you can completely trust. Yes, three. I don't know if I would trust the dad. Or like Donna. Yeah. Donna, Donna, Jason, and Kylie. Yeah. So I think that the more I think about it, like while these two had these not been the circumstances and they met in any other way, like they definitely would not have liked each other. But, you know, you can't choose your family and I actually think now I think that they're really close. okay that's really sweet um i think you know she like addressed the wedding which she had to do she had to just so she could move on she gave away nothing which she didn't um which she also had to do you know because i think everyone's like waiting to see what taylor and travis want to say and i thought what the one you know sort of personal thing that she said which was that you know they already been family she's been family for a while now like if she didn't like her she didn't need to say that no but it's actually a very sweet thing to say it is a nice thing to say I agree no I'm I'm no longer looking into this you know but for you to go from being like oh these two hate each other like monster-in-laws I just want to say I didn't think that they hated each other I thought that Kylie hated Taylor like just Kylie's personality type seems like the type of person who hypothetically would hate Taylor's personality type yeah um yeah no I think that I was wrong which I know for you to go from that to they're very close I think that like being with your brother and sister-in-law directly after your wedding during your honeymoon like is a huge statement.
38:28And we don't know it's like 100 % true but like Streets said that they were in Montana with Jason and Kylie and I'm just operating under that assumption.
38:34Jackie Schimmel:I don't know why that would be a lie. Yeah. And I think that that's very sweet. Yeah that is very sweet. So anyways TikTok on the deets. Yeah. I'm getting daily reminder. I'm getting concerned that it ain't coming. It's been three weeks. And Paige Paul came and went. She's still going. Yeah, right. She's still sharing. Now they're on their honeymoon. Oh, where is she? I think they're in Nantucket. They're doing a lot of fishing. On Nantucket. Oh, how uncouth. A lot of fishing, a lot of beer drinking. That's so. They went to the Dairy Boy store, I think. Cute. Very cute. Yeah, so not a real honeymoon.
39:13Jackie Schimmel:Right. Just like they took a trip. Mini moon, as the kids say. Yeah. Which is cute. Are you ready for our next story? What number? Three. Yeah. Kim Kardashian is using her bar exam failure to sell energy drinks. So Kim shared an update yesterday about update, though there's not really an update, but just more of promotion. Yeah. She made this big countdown announcement. I didn't really fall for it, but it was kind of like a serious countdown, and I thought something big was coming. And it was just a commercial for the drink that already exists. Right. So it was a commercial for a drink that we already knew that she was a part of, And it was just like a big commercial making her a big part of it.
39:53Jackie Schimmel:There was lots of jokes. It was very high production. And her new energy drink brand is called Update. It's no caffeine and no sugar. The whole campaign is about how like, you know, she's the hardest worker. And like, I think that this drink is the hardest working drink. Right. Like what is the hardest working woman in the world? Drink to keep up? Update, allegedly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That one like didn't stick. What? Update. It hasn't, I feel like now from here on. No, it literally came out like well over a year ago. I got a PR package. Oh, did you? I feel like a couple months ago. And I put them in the fridge and like I meant to drink them and I never did.
40:26A couple months ago it was announced that she was like, she didn't start the company,
40:29Jackie Schimmel:but she was coming on and like making it her own. And then this seems like, and that was more like B2B news. No, no, no. It was like out and stuff. And then this seems like the first real like B2C push. It's not. Maybe they're trying, like it's another big B2C push. Perhaps. but it just feels like like skims is doing so well like why you gotta go and start another company like it's good yeah like kylie's also doing hydration as well hydration sticks under k2o under sprinter right sprinter's not alcohol anymore yeah it's hydration sticks kendall has 818 yeah this doesn't do it for me i'm not like running out and buying updates no me neither the commercial was well done there was a joke about how she didn't someone said didn't you like fail the bar she said i didn't fail the bar i raised it well you also failed twice is she gonna take it again please no i know but like imagine she did all of that like just to not even finish i know you can only fail so many times right like if you fail i think three times then only you take it like That would be good.
41:42You can't just take it. She's going to take it again.
41:44Jackie Schimmel:Knowing her, she doesn't give up. Failure is not in her vocabulary. She will take it again. I actually think it was only her first time taking it. She passed the baby bar. And then this was her first time taking the regular bar. I don't think so. JFK Jr. failed the bar. There are greats who have. Aside from being JFK Jr., what did he do great as a lawyer? Oh, as a lawyer, nothing. He started that magazine, which you don't have to be a lawyer to do. Yeah. Like, his greatness didn't come from the fact that he passed the bar. From his legal background, yeah. So, I wouldn't use that as an example.
42:20Jackie Schimmel:Okay. But, yeah. What's to say, really? What's to say about update? I'm not sure, other than the fact that, like, I personally don't care. Yeah. And, like, don't waste a countdown, you know? I know, like, Taylor does it. So true. And Taylor, I feel, though, sometimes wastes it. She does, but I'm desensitized to her countdowns. It's true. I know it's going to be like a new vinyl. A new cover. But when you're not a countdown person and then you do a countdown, like not with some news I already knew. Yeah, Kim, this was definitely not countdown worthy. Uh-huh, uh-huh. 100%. Okay, are you ready for our fourth story?
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48:52Jackie Schimmel:Our fourth story is a very crazy story. So Jerry O 'Connell is making news, admitting that he was a terrible boyfriend to his ex, Juliana Ransig. Yeah, so that was the first time hearing of this. So the way this story reached me was I saw Juliana made a video. I don't follow her. She's on the boat saying, oh my ex wants to talk about how we went down 20 years ago we could talk about it new episode of bill juliana drops next podcast drops next week and then the caption it said something about jerry i'm like who's juliana's random ex named jerry like what's the t yeah then come to find out she's talking about jerry o 'connell who went on um sirius xm show let's talk off camera with kelly ripa and he admitted to kelly ripa that he was a terrible boyfriend to juliana so this is what he said to Kelly Ripa that caused Juliana to make that video I mean he said it but then also like it got picked up a lot it was like People Magazine was obsessed with it yes but like this is what People Magazine is saying that he said so she asked Jerry about his relationship with Juliana he noted that though they had yeah like over 20 years ago he's married like you know what Kelly's asking the hard questions Kelly is gonna Kelly commend the cojones it's true not mindless news after all Oh, finally.
50:11Jackie Schimmel:He noted that though they had a lot of fun together, he was a pretty terrible boyfriend. So in her memoir from 2016, she alleged that he cheated on her and ended their relationship over intercom. Intercom? Yeah, like, you know, when you - What in the 90s? Yeah. Kelly asked Jerry if Juliana had ran by him the contents of her memoir that pertained to him, and Jerry said she had not. She doesn't have to, if that's true. Yeah, he said, now listen, in Juliana Rancic's defense of this memoir, I was a pretty terrible boyfriend. Hand up, I was not a good boyfriend. Let me take this moment to apologize to Juliana Rancic.
50:43Jackie Schimmel:I'm not kidding about being a terrible boyfriend. I was the worst. I wasn't the worst boyfriend. I was just a bad boyfriend. I was just not a great boyfriend. In the memoir, she said... So were you a good boyfriend or a bad boyfriend? She said he broke up with her via intercom, which he confirmed. He said, I broke up with her through an intercom because Juliana Rancic came to my condominium and hit my intercom. I was not expecting Juliana Rancic. She wanted entry into my condominium. Thank goodness. Buzzer, gate, security. I paid a pretty hefty homeowner's fee for these things. He said, I said, I did not know you were coming.
51:18Jackie Schimmel:You can't come up here. You can't come here unannounced. Notice no one had a key. Notice that no one had a key. They were dating. And she wants to come into his condominium. Of course, he's insane. He said no one had a key. So the relationship was not like that. But that was why. I didn't like someone coming to my condominium. Why does he keep calling it a condominium? Why does he keep calling her Juliana Rancid coming to my apartment when she was Juliana Depandy then. She was Juliana Depandy. He said, I didn't like someone coming to my condominium without an invite or even a text or a phone call.
51:47Jackie Schimmel:There was no warning and I didn't want someone coming in because I didn't want any confrontation. Then Kelly proceeded to read a line from Juliana's memoir on what Jerry said. Kelly got prepared. I had no idea this hat. Me neither. Much like the bald woman. Should we read Juliana's memoirs? Running out of goodwill. I didn't know they ever dated that they ended contentiously that she spilled the beans in 2016. No, I knew none of this up until yesterday. So, Juliana says in her memoir that Jerry on the intercom said, nope, sorry, homegirl. Things change, but you take care, okay? Oh, my God. Who talks like that?
52:19Jackie Schimmel:Jerry said, I don't recall exact wording, so I can't deny that I said that. It doesn't sound like something I would say. I mean, if I were writing a memoir, it would make for a good quote. I'm going to applaud Juliana for using colorful dialogue and everything. Okay, he's gaslighting her. So, now Juliana hears that, takes to Instagram and says, oh, you want to know the true story of what happened with my ex. Check out my podcast. It's coming out next week. I'm sure there's a lot of tea because he did probably cheat on her. He was a terrible boyfriend and he's admitting to those things and like sort of you know trying to take the sting out of it but she's gonna bring the sting back in.
52:52And I do understand Juliana like responding to this on her podcast because I think at the place that she's in like you only get so many big moments for your podcast so yeah. That's true. So you know what I get it like this is a this is a hustle. We all are doing what we have to do. I don't know if like the Bill and Juliana podcast makes waves very often. But I would also say like the podcast should have dropped today. Oh, for sure. Don't tell me to tune in next week because I'll be on to something new next week. I personally won't be tuning in. No, of course. Let me know what happens. She like confounds me a little bit because she like left public life like by choice, right?
53:27Jackie Schimmel:Well, she left E! News and such. Yeah, and I think a lot of people left E! News either by their own decision or not. And they continue to do other stuff up like social media and i don't know she like she does social media she like really disappeared and then it has a podcast she does social media she has a podcast she left like television but she does fat fit fun like she i don't know if that fit fun is still in business i think it is fat fit fun is like so important to me yeah and also like she is like us like people like really like her and her and bill and they have a really nice marriage and bill is rich well they're rich excuse me that was like very condescending of me but like he like is rich is he he won the apprentice but that's like but not like celebrity apprentice back in the day if you were on regular apprentice it was like a huge deal it was but it didn't mean that you were rich it meant that you were like a smart person no but it meant that like you were he got like a big job like you like it used to mean something yeah we think of celebrity but like that was so long ago like what happened to the job that's like winning america's next top model like didn't mean you were the next top model No, it's not because you were getting a job in business, not in modeling.
54:30Jackie Schimmel:Modeling is fickle and fleeting. It's like he went to business school. Yeah, no, he's definitely smart and a good businessman. I think he's done well for himself. And there's a reason why he won The Apprentice, and I think that showcased his talents. But just because you win The Apprentice doesn't mean you become a moneyed individual. Oh, I actually think that it does. Really? What does Bill Rancic do for work? I know he's rich. Or am I just genuinely making himself up? But you think The Apprentice made him rich? And they also own a chain of restaurants. Yeah. He's best known for winning The Apprentice.
54:56He's handsome. him he looks like eddie sibrian um he's a restaurant owner of course they own rpm which like is a big deal in chicago like i think it's like equivalent of blt steak how there's like a million of them blt steak blt italian whatever that's what i think he's also an entrepreneur and investor becoming famous bill started an online subscription business and since the apprentice he's invested in advice a variety of businesses and real estate projects he's a professional speaker and author in a podcast house okay maybe i'm like misremembering no but that's sweet yeah i always thought like she left e and like left her public life because she had a rich husband you know um no but she obviously like has opportunities so you don't just like leave
55:34Jackie Schimmel:and nobody really could do what she did after her that's a job they are still trying to fill the shoes that you know they're not they canceled the show right because they could not find the shoes to fill that juliana and ryan i actually don't think that e-news was a failure this time around because they couldn't find the people to fill i just think like it was too late you're telling us news at 7 p.m. like we knew this yesterday you know like the way people consume content it's just different than it was not what it was and they just couldn't evolve she's just like an anomaly to me but even like red carpet coverage that's still it has suffered and they still try and fill the shoes yeah but they don't fill the shoes the thing about juliana and ryan is like nobody knew who they were they were just journalists right them filling with laverne cox like sorry that's not gonna cut it still trying to fill the shoes still trying to fill the shoes You know, Julianna Rancic left a gaping hole in media.
56:22She left some big shoes to fill. Are you okay? Don't hurt your back. Don't hurt your back. She left some big shoes. Some big shoes to fill. Absolutely chilling. And Ryan Seacrest left some little ones. Funny. Kraken. Like things I didn't know.
56:42Jackie Schimmel:I think she has like Shalom Bayi. I think this is exciting for her podcast. it's crazy that it's Jerry O 'Connell who's like the most famous nice guy. Yeah very affable. Everybody loves him. Everybody loves him. His exes love him. But it turns out 20 years ago he was kind of a cheating douchebag nightmare. Well I just feel like that should be inspiration to cheating douchebag nightmares everywhere. Like you can too grow up to become a nice guy. And the women who love them. However yours probably won't change. Oh yeah don't let Jerry O 'Connell fool you. You know. He's not going to change. He's the exception.
57:11Jackie Schimmel:Not the rule. Not the rule. Absolutely. So stay tuned. I look forward to people magazine recapping the podcast yeah our fifth and final story a little casting biopic news tom holland zendaya's boyfriend yeah is filming fred astaire biopic next and plans to do all of the dancing himself okay i'm gonna need like a quick briefer on fred astaire fred astaire you know fred astaire no that's why i asked the briefer i don't he's like that he's like the guy acting dancing guy from like the 50s let's get his official file what's he in that i've seen i want to say singing in the rain like oh my god i was gonna say that too or like guys and dolls okay he was in he's an american actor singer dancer choreographer and presenter does tom holland sing i don't know they are booked and busy those two like it's actually crazy what are the odds like genuinely the most popular famous actress is married to like the most popular famous actor of their time like they're both they're gonna grow up to be like brad and angelina hopefully like hopefully not but i mean in terms of career um so he was in top hat funny face swing time yeah i think he's a swing king i think he's like a swing dancer yeah for sure easter parade you know he he started with ginger rogers i don't know i feel like a biopic for a man it's like a very hit or miss sometimes it like makes a great actor and sometimes like i think it ruins a career oh interesting like austin butler never like completely fell off after elvis fell off from where though like he was literally he was like this no he was not yes he was like this no with a little kaya gerber with a small peak for he was on the up and up and did he ever work after that it was dune yeah it was shocking that he got the part yeah but so the fact that he did like that means like you're chosen like what's next okay i actually think austin butler is like having success as an actor we just refuse to see it no i'm telling you and he's gonna be playing like norman bates american psycho he's gonna gonna gonna no i haven't i just like i feel like we have like a blockage you know and we can't like we act because we think so i don't know jeremy allen white being like bruce springsteen people hated i personally hated timothy chalamet as bob dylan like i i don't know rami malik as that was a make or break and he make yeah uh taron egerton make Joaquin Phoenix Johnny Cash Make Major Yeah It's just a little I think it's like a little risky sometimes Honestly But I don't think so Because even if it doesn't like make you Like it's good quality work And like It's fine I don't know Sometimes I feel like it backfires Like it makes people hate you I think it's like safe Oh I don't I think it's safe And then you're like Comparing to like who you're playing You know And also I feel like this will be like a cute It'll be like a cool setting for a movie You know the swing and it's based in oh my god he was born in 1899 like obviously like his career is in the 1900s but he was born in the 1800s that's really spooky that is crazy that's like what they probably are going to start saying about us soon like we were born in the 1900s that is what they're going to say about us in 100 years okay so lest we not judge so true he had a long dancing partnership with ginger rogers i wonder who will play she they literally cast india in everything that they do so So like, sure, make it Zendaya.
1:00:33So cute. You know, did you see the Hollywood Reporters, like, or Variety, one of them, is getting shit because they wrote up a thing on the Odyssey, like, ranking the performances of all the actors.
1:00:41Jackie Schimmel:No. Yeah, and they put Tom Holland's 17th, like, dead last. Oh, he's in it? Yeah, and Zendaya. Oh. Isn't that crazy? I don't know. Everyone's in the Odyssey, I guess. You think? Like, it's a huge cast, right? Oh, and then Anne Hathaway was talking about working with Christopher Nolan again. What was she in with him the first time? Robert Pattinson was in it with him once See everyone's in this movie you're naming people I'm like Are you not following the press? No because I'm not on TikTok so I don't get served all these videos When did Anne Hathaway first work with Christopher Nolan? You like just see them all day long I do They say clips of their interviews Is Flodge doing interviews?
1:01:15Oh Dark Knight Rises She was in that I didn't know that She was Catwoman Is Flodge doing interviews? Who's Flodge? You know Flodge That woman who like with Blake Lively If I'm a celebrity and I'm an actress, I'm keeping Flaudge the fuck away from me.
1:01:32Jackie Schimmel:And Flaudge also has beef with Anne Hathaway, too. Yeah, I know. But Anne Hathaway apologized. She apologized. She was not going down the plane of the rabbit hole. You guys know. I think she's Dutch. She's an international reporter who is obviously very. She's sort of the Juliana Rancic of her country. Of the Netherlands. Because any time an actress or actor does press, she's there representing the Netherlands media community. and she like has all this archival footage. Remember she had that video of Blake Lively where she was like, oh, your bump looks so great. Blake was like, your bump looks great.
1:02:04That was fucking crazy. And then that video went so viral, literally started the Blake Lively cancellation hate train, like literally. And then she was like trying to make lightning strike twice. So she had this like nasty video of Anne Hathaway from like years ago. It came out and like people were starting and Anne Hathaway just got back in the good graces of America. She's not going back. So she like reached out to the woman, like sent her a million dollars, got her a gift and like it was diffused. Yeah. So just know, like, if I'm ever in a film, she's on the no-fly list.
1:02:31Jackie Schimmel:You're skipping press day with Flodge? A thousand percent. Yeah. I'm calling in sick that day. Yeah, one thousand percent. Well, those are the past five stories. I don't feel like we need to do Queenie and Weenie because I already said mine. Yeah. You have any thoughts? Cop out. Oh, fine. Let's do Queenie and Weenie. Well, no, like, we didn't. No, Dumont is my Queenie and my Weenie. Like, I'm sorry. You have to read her comment section. She's fighting for her fucking life, but she's actually, like, eating people up. but when I saw that thing the other day like oh Nicolette you woke up here's everything I've gotten and not posted like thanks I wonder if like if she does that with other people too like would she post a cheating rumor about someone I don't know I don't know what the ethics of Dumas are like I don't think I like thinking back like I don't think she's ever posted like cheating rumors I think like back in the day she had like a lot less to lose and she was just like sort of posting whatever came her way and I do think that she's probably gotten like a substantial amount of like threatening legal notices, ceases and desist.
1:03:22So she's definitely more careful and her content has suffered because of it. But like now she's like a full on media company. So she has more to lose and she's like acting.
1:03:29Jackie Schimmel:And you don't just like post like baseless cheating rumors that someone messaged you. Right. Unless you have like hard proof. Like seems like he doesn't want to be around Elandria. Like how do you even know that? Yeah like we're just making up things based on vibes now. That's not appropriate. And that's not what a media person does. Yeah. But I just think like the whole um yeah it was Queenie and Weenie. I understand. Everyone hope you have an amazing weekend. thank you so much for a great week of thirst and we'll see you on the next one
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