Dakota's Ricotta: Wednesday, September 16th, 2026

31:14This does not shock me. And I think that like the less work there is for Phineas to do, the better. Lucas Graham has also dropped out. What is he saying? Since I was seven years old. Is that him? I feel like I have him in my like liked songs somewhere. Let me search my liked songs. And then also like the band. Aaron Rowe. I'm not familiar. Lucas Graham. He sings, you're not there. And then he also sings, what do you think of with Lauren Alaina? Are you sure he doesn't sing seven years old? Oh, it's not on my like songs, but yeah. Oh, that's neither here nor there. Yeah. Sorry. I just want to know like what I know him from.

31:51Do you think Lauren Alaina is going to make a statement? I don't. I don't think she should. Yeah. Seven years. And love someone in Mama said. Mama said that feels like. Like, Mama said there'd be days like this. There'd be bitter. That's the best song ever. And then also, I think, like, what shook people was that, like, the band. Is that Aaron Rowe? I don't know. But, like, I guess, like, the people who play the instruments for Ed Sheeran. And yoga? I think that might be a band. Devastating. They play the instruments for Ed Sheeran? Right. That's what I'm saying. So, like, the infrastructure of the show is now, like, compromised.

32:28It's not just the opening acts. Because the thing is, while, you know, there's sort of this necessary thing, we are okay if there are no openers. But if there's no band at the Ed Sheeran show, it's just Ed and his guitar. Which I just want to say the last time I went to an Ed Sheeran concert, it was literally just Ed and his guitar. No, and it's like they can't find musicians. Oh, so the band is Boega. They're his backing band. They shared that they stood against the silencing of Macklemore by Zionist lobbyists. No. Okay. Just say Jews. Just say Jews. say Jews Zionist lobbyists yeah uh I felt that that made their intentions quite clear when they used that phrase I mean everyone's intentions are quite clear and this is just it's so funny you just never know like what's gonna be what's gonna right is Ed Sheeran gonna continue to do the shows I mean he has to first of all like this will blow over these are huge shows this is so much money this is hundreds of millions of dollars like and it's not just him and this is what he was trying to say like sure he could have kept macklemore on to prove a point and stick it to the man but then okay your shows get cut in half say that's crew band lighting craft services everybody production out of the paycheck like people rely on him to work and he has to make like sound decisions as a boss yeah yeah no i i feel that feel that and no no but i'm saying like like when you think of ed sheeran it's like well he makes every decision and he makes every dollar and it's like it's really not how it works but people forget that like we always say like cast and crew but cast and crew no i think like hundreds of people work on a stadium yeah like this yeah and they're not just the openers and the people whose name you know i was never planning on going i went to an ed sheeran concert once and i have to tell you like it was genuinely unenjoyable he like does this thing where he like loops his own guitar that's surprised like his backing band dropped out i'm telling you there was not one other human being on stage the entire time at metlife stadium like sorry you're gonna need a little bit more pizzazz than you and your little guitar and your like foot pedal sir um so i remain unaffected by this like the people i hated phineas like i hate them still like nothing's really changed for me um not to center myself in the conflict of course but i'm doing fine i figured i wonder who will open for him because on the one hand it's like no one would touch this with a 10 foot pole but on the other hand like this could be a huge opportunity for a burgeoning artist yeah but it's a huge opportunity to like kind of step in it like there is no winning gear honestly yeah I don't know I'll be interested to see who does it and I will have mad respect or maybe he just goes no openers but you don't even think there's someone whose name we don't even know who'd want to open for him.

35:18You know what I mean? Like there is someone out there who wants their shot enough to open for him. Of course. Does that service Ed Sheeran in any way? Like this random person off the street. You can't just like start the show at 9 p.m. I mean like I guess you can. And I don't know if there are any Zionist artists out there who'd love to. But I don't even think he would have one. Okay. I will do it. I think he doesn't want anyone. No, of course. Polarizing whatsoever. but I could see him having ready like an Israeli artist and a Palestinian artist like sharing this stage together actually would be like a decent solve I just want to say it would like Matis Yahoo no there's definitely like a band I feel like I've heard of like a band that's like Israeli but it's like mixed and they all Omer Adam no no not having Israel like two people to go up there and fight like there is like a band that already exists that already exists that's like mixed artists oh so sign him up sign him up yeah

36:24or cancel the tour like no he's not going to cancel the tour he can't it's too many um well selfishly i'm sure he makes a lot of money but also like other people too he doesn't even like need money he doesn't have a phone but it's it's other people like that would be so immature so true he doesn't have a phone power through you can do this it will blow over but and people can do hard things and it's like oh he's in a rough spot and i i feel for him like there's no right move to make at this point but like you literally allowed malcolm more to be your opener when he brings absolutely nothing to your program except for divisiveness controversy if you can't handle the heat and political agenda like so i don't feel bad for what were you thinking i know what you want to be this person like you really want to be this and it's hard to be this person it's really hard it is borderline look i think this is proof that it's literally impossible to be this person who's totally like everyone can come to my show i'm not divisive i won't say x y or z it's literally impossible who were we just saying it's possible and it's easier darling parton it's possible and it's easier when you don't choose macklemore to be your opener well of course if you can't handle the heat ed stay away from macklemore like i said alex warren take one look Get you, you're digging me out.

37:40Wouldn't he be a great opener for Ed Sheeran? Of course. He's kind of like Gen Z Ed Sheeran. And I would go. But like, does Alex Warren want to be a part of this? Like, who would genuinely, willingly want to be a part of this? Who wants to be famous badly enough? Brooke Snader? Me. No, you're, I mean, there are people. The Nader sisters would do it. Oh, like a little dancing troupe. Yeah. Love that. Um, so we'll see what's next. But I do think there's people that would do it. Yeah. And they should. Or if those, like, I don't know if those are the people that Ed wants. But I guess at this point, like, what is that thing they say about beggars?

38:22I'm saying not even like, you know, some Zionist artist. No, no. But just like someone who doesn't care enough about the conflict to take a stand and could use the eyeballs. Yeah. It just sounds like we're picking up random people off the street. Like. No, like, you know, some like hot new artist on Spotify or whatever. Yeah. Our next story, Melissa McCarthy and Clive Owen are the spitting image of JonBenet Ramsey's parents in a first photo from a new Netflix drama. So I didn't know this was happening. Me neither. Netflix has released the first photo from the hotly anticipated new series, The Murder of JonBenet Ramsey.

38:59In the photo, Melissa McCarthy and Clive Owen are in character as Patsy and JonBenet Ramsey, JonBenet's parents. according to Netflix the show will be a dramatization of one of the most infamous unsolved murder cases in American history and will also cover the devastating personal and public reckoning that followed the death of JonBenet Ramsey the cast also includes Garrett Hedlund Allison you're kidding Allison Pills she's from Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen right who does she play like the nerdy friend I think she plays oh you're kidding and Chris bower they are cops investigating the crime who plays the brother i don't know who plays the brother burke oh my god i didn't realize garrett headland went like this sorry i'm just taking a minute to process like my boyfriend getting acting gigs love that um i also did not know this was happening i wonder sort of what take they're gonna put on it because there's this is an unsolved mystery there's lots of theories you know as the brother yada yada um i wonder like what theory they're putting their weight behind they're gonna put forth but for melissa she said she loves patsy she thinks the show is doing a really great version of the story she said i hope we're giving the family their humanity as well as telling the story noting that she thinks speculating that they killed their own daughter is a blood sport so we know where she stands there's right a prevailing theory that conspiracy theorists have is that it was the brother yes that's what i've heard over the years but in 2019 the brother settled a 750 million dollar defamation lawsuit against cbs after they aired a television series called the case of john van a ramsey and suggested he was the culprit oh slay mama you don't sue if you have someone to hide yeah so i don't know i feel like and that's just like an easy i think people just want to know who did it and it's like oh there was an older brother in the house no and it's seriously so fucked up it's like similar to how people just say it's patrick clancy because they feel like it and it's convenient for their like agenda to say that it's like that's a legit person and like who lost his three kids this is someone who lost his sister like fuck off no and it's like people are so nuts like seriously i'm so like hard enough for the parents to contend with like their daughter's murder and then publicly also to be accused of being a part of it or that their son is being accused like it just gets worse and worse so I think it's time for like a human take on this like I know that there's so much you know there's podcasts there's docuseries like this is seriously like one of the hottest cases in the country of all time of all time top five of all time but like I feel like it's never really told in in a way that's not salacious yeah or like theorizing yeah in a way that's just like sad it's because it's such a it's like almost like a trope now but it is so sad yeah at its core yeah is john bonnet like gonna be in it or is she missing the whole time like is there an actress playing john bonnet unclear got it we only got this one photo and yeah and they just sort of dropped it randomly like i i had no idea this was happening yeah and they look great in character yeah they do um so i'm looking forward to this at what point do you think we'll see like a dramatized version of lindsey clancy like in the immediate future or like down the line i mean it's so inappropriate like people do they turn it around too quickly these days because i think we could get like a bunch of like docu-serieses for a while and then a dramatized version but i don't think it will be any good yeah it's also too hot right now yeah and yeah it's just it's too polarizing like what side are you going to come at it from yeah so i don't think anyone should do that but someone will because people are really interested in the subject yeah and there's sort of like no line people won't cross when it comes to this case i'm sure you've seen the juror spoke to like a random youtube channel he did not want his voice recorded or his face recorded he said this has been a nightmare and his family can't leave the house and he's just like wants to be left the fuck alone nightmare yeah yeah that juror real thorn in everyone's side and i do like uh respect his sort of insistence on keeping his identity and whatever the way i would pay probably an unlimited amount of money to watch like a sit down interview with him with somebody just like normal and completely um unbiased like i kind of like need to know well because you know we've heard the version from a lot of the other jurors but they all say the same thing and it's sort of like group think at that point like what does this lone wolf say like what was his experience came out and started telling his story then you could make the argument that he did hold out to be famous the number one guy in that group you know right um his intentions seem yeah the fact that he hasn't his intentions seem very pure you know a thousand percent um i've read like a little bit about him but there's not that much known about him and also i feel like And there's a lot of fake news.

44:04Like you told me that yesterday. I said yesterday that I heard he was gay. I don't know that that's true, but then also that he had an ex-wife. So like seriously. And you heard that there was like a arrest or something, but it was like an allegation. No, there were charges. But it was an allegation that was dropped. Then I heard. Listen, I didn't read the court filings because I have a job, but I didn't make that up. Like, no, no, they're saying they're saying the streets are saying the people who are like against it, they're saying he's a woman beater. You read it somewhere, but or heard it somewhere.

44:32on TikTok but that doesn't mean that it's true so there's no but no but there is there is like a police there's like a record that they had the police called I think that they had leave me leave me out of this but having the police called is different than like having a record well I think that also makes sense as to why he was able to be a juror because he doesn't have a criminal record yeah but you can be a juror with a criminal record correct oh can you because you there are things that you can't do with a criminal record but I've never heard being a juror is one of those things you just might get dismissed right if you have like a relevant relevant criminal background i'll ask chat i was just about to be a juror if you have a criminal record question mark

45:16i feel like no yes potentially having a criminal record does not automatically prevent you from serving on a jury but the rules depend on the state and on whether the conviction was a felony or mismeanor and i guess also if it's relevant like if you were arrested for domestic violence and you're sitting on the domestic violence trial. Of course. Of course. That's going to be a no. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. Dakota Johnson and Machine Gun Kelly were spotted together in New York City as they escaped to Taylor Swift's apartment on Daytonite. What? Dakota Johnson and Machine Gun Kelly turned to Taylor Swift to help with a little seclusion during their recent night out in New York City.

45:56A source told Page Six Taylor has let her friends use her New York City properties before and Dakota and Coulson wanted privacy. So they headed to her apartment. I mean, they're not like that famous that they can't get privacy anywhere but Taylor Swift's apartment. They were both spotted at her Tribeca apartment Friday night before heading to Estella for dinner. I'm so over Machine Gun Kelly. And to be honest, like I am side-eyeing Dakota Johnson for this. What is she doing? I feel that up until recently, she's had a pretty good like track record. Obviously, Chris Martin's a great get. Even the whole role model thing, like I understand a little fling with a younger man.

46:28He's cute. He's funny. I've seen him on Therapist. Like he's got a personality. I really am not into like this at all. This seems like a bad choice for her. No, he seems so toxic. Thousand percent. And I'm sorry. Like when you have a, didn't they have a baby, him and Megan Fox? Yeah. And then like you are no longer with your baby's mother like a month after birth. Like I just think that that's sinister behavior. Yeah, for sure. That's how I feel about Pete Davidson. Like I'm sorry. I think there's something weird about like a man. either you're the worst fucking partner ever or you left like at least if she broke up with you it's like what does that say about you if you broke up with her what does that say about you yeah so i don't know he gives me like extremely bad vibes maybe at one point like i definitely thought he was cute and i love that song bloody valentine but like for me the shine has worn off and like to me he just seems you're right toxic i don't like toxicity me neither i know that's like hot take i'm also against crime but also but like i feel like no one on its face likes toxicity but people like tolerate it some people think it's like hot and they don't know how to like people are attracted they don't know how to be in a relationship without it sort of like keeps things hot and fresh taylor frankie paul she's an extreme case but i think some people like a little bit of toxicity or someone's like too nice they like get bored so i have no tolerance for toxicity if you even like makes like an act that suggests you could have potential toxicity like I'm running from you.

47:54What are you doing? If you tell like a weird lie or like I just I completely agree. You're trying to mess with me. I find it so off putting. It's like I have to run a business. I have like a lot of things to get. I can't deal with you too. Yeah. So just know I'm against toxicity. Thanks for clearing that up. And I want world peace. Of course. And harsher punishment. For parole violators. Three very hot takes. Yeah. So they're saying they're into each other yada yada. People were sort of quaking about this. They were mad that we didn't talk about it on Monday. But yeah, it was sort of like Wednesday news.

48:28I just want to say, this is so not Monday worthy. No, no. Especially after like a lot happened over the weekend. Like I met Alex Earl. Like we're not talking about machine gun. And Taylor Swift went to the Chiefs game. I do find it weird that like Taylor would allow this. But I guess she's like, that's a good friend, you know? What are they doing at her apartment with her not there? No, I don't know. I think it's weird. Like, yes, she has a history of, like, lending her real estate. But, like, in dire circumstances. Like, Sophie Turner, of course. This is not dire. Like, first of all, there's so many private members clubs.

49:02Like, celebrities get so much privacy in New York. I actually think going to Taylor Swift's apartment where you know there's, like, a media tent pretty much permanently parked is giving. We don't want privacy. Were they pre-gaming? I don't know. What the fuck they were doing? Just go to the restaurant. Have you been to that restaurant, Estella? No. Have you heard of it? No. I'm so out of the loop. I wonder what's the cuisine. I'm going to guess Greek. I'm going to guess Italian. Yeah, I guess that's a better guess. Like Estella. Estella, one of the most celebrated restaurants in the United States.

49:35It's an intimate downtown bistro that can be experienced in many ways, whether it's a thrilling dinner in the dining room. Just tell us what cuisine it is. Bistro is giving French. Okay. Menus. Oh, dinner menu. Dinner. I can't believe it doesn't say like in the bio. what the cuisine is it doesn't like there's steak there's aged duck pork collar it's french it's french yeah lobster with the cabbage be show so french but then it's fried arroz oh pollo con a rose yeah and then it also that's latin it says jamon iberico just put your phone away just don't i would say it's a global fusion i don't think you would like it i don't think i would like anything that you could order let me try and find something you would like do they have a mackerel they have mackerel what's that mackerel i think it's a fish they have golden tilefish not kosher tilefish there's that one thing that you would eat here there's no pasta no i don't see pasta is there a kids menu there's ricotta dumplings with mushrooms and pecorino ricotta

50:55i love ricotta dumplings like actually they're maybe my favorite dish i've ever eaten ricotta oh my god this is a crazy menu yeah maybe that's why they went to taylor's apartment to get something to eat after because the meal was so good because they didn't like you know taylor has good snacks they didn't like their beef tartare and there's literally like like 15 things on the menu period it's like a one sheet oh i hate that and there's not even like appetizers entrees it's just like 15 items you know a menu is good when it's not appetizer entrees it's preemie seconde i love preemie seconde yeah and then antipasti is always there i get a lot of preemies sometimes i don't even make it to secondi oh i am like secondi heavy call me secondi you skip out on premies i skip out on preemie because i'm secondi weaver like i love a secondi it's like always like a chicken parm like i love secondi and ricotta of course is that what you said how did you pronounce it ricotta ricotta for dakota literally giada de larentis is rolling over in her ballroom dance.

52:08Dakota ordered the ricotta. That's beautiful. What do you think they ordered? Tile fish? I have no idea. Like I don't know these two at all. He definitely ordered beef tartare. Yeah. Did they have like a filet mignon or like a strip steak? They had a wagyu beef. Yeah. Yeah. I think they got that. Yeah. Raw. Yeah. Raw. Are you right now? You kind of have to go there. Sorry. Okay, Patreon. Patreon, we're going to, what was it called? Estella? Where is it? In Tribeca, I think, right? By Taylor Swift. Oh, right. Okay. So Estella, I'll see if I can get a res, even though after this episode, I'll probably get a permanent ban.

52:52Yeah. Oh, and the chairs do not look comfortable. Oh, I'm used to it. Oh, it's in Lolita. Okay, Lolita. Lolita Express. Yeah, it's a modern New York classic, says Gemini. it gained global fame after hosting a memorable date night for barack and michelle obama oh interesting and i would say like good enough dakota and machine are sort of the obamas of 2026 oh you would say that oh that's interesting because i wouldn't see it no you don't see it maybe they're the barack in the Michelle of their own minds. But other than that, no, I wouldn't, I don't see any sort of parallels between the two. Chef Ignacio Mattos designed the space to feel like an unpretentious neighborhood spot with elite execution.

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59:11It is called As One. It's a boy band. So cute. And honestly, I think this is the solution for Ed Sheeran. I know nobody listens to the show and nobody takes our ideas seriously, but we've got to get this concept to Ed Sheeran. Because seriously, what could anyone say to any of these people if this is what he did? Now, let's hope they're good. I haven't listened. It actually doesn't matter. And maybe they could get Ed's, you know, production team to help them out. They could get better. They could get better. They could get better. And I don't want to help Ed Sheeran because I think he made this mess himself.

59:43That's so true. Clean it up. But unfortunately, like, the solution has come to me. And I have to share it just to help you out. What are they called? As One? As One. A-S-1-O-N-E. Asione. The name needs work. But we'll get there. I think the name is okay because, you know, it explains that we are As One. I hope they're available because like there's genuinely only one solution to this problem and we've just figured it out. There's only one solution. As one. The as one solution. As one incorporated. I need to listen to them when the show's over. Yeah. Hopefully they're good. Like they literally need to be decent.

1:00:24But like they look like a boy band, you know, like. And by the way, do not even start. I'm not getting demonetized for as we on. No, I'm not going to lose it all for as one. I agree. We have bills to pay. Yeah. It sounds familiar. I feel like I've heard about them. Very interesting. Yeah. Very interesting. I know. Me too. I don't know where I heard about them, where this idea came to me, but I feel like I saw them. Not them. In a dream. Our fourth story, Amanda Seyfried and Thomas Sadowski have split after nine years of marriage. to Amanda Seyfried, affectionately known as Minji. Minji! How do you remember that?

1:01:09Your brain is like so good. I just knew when I like chose a story about her, you were going to be like, Minji. I wasn't going to because I forgot. Like if we were doing trivia and it was like, what is Amanda Seyfried's like annoying Instagram handle? I might have said like, Minji. Not even, like I wouldn't have gotten that close. Oh, okay. Well, you could say my brain's really good, but not to spoil anything, you should watch Patreon yesterday. Yeah, not to spoil anything, because if your brain's good, what does that make me? Great. The actors confirmed their split in a joint statement exclusively to people saying that they have been separated for a while and that the decision has ultimately been the right one for their family.

1:01:46We've been separated for a while and it's proven to be the right move for us in our family unit. We've got each other and it's good, G-O-O-D, capitalized. I actually have some insider tea because I heard that they've been on the rocks for a while ever since she publicly attacked Ariel Charnas, he sort of saw something in her that he didn't like and he's been sort of planning his escape ever since. That's what I heard. Do you think that's her worst defense? Alleged. Do you think that's her worst defense? What did we just... Something was bad for her. Minji. She did something weird on Instagram again, which is why we brought up the Ariel Charnas thing again.

1:02:18And I feel like we got to a place of hatred, but... Yeah, what did she do recently? I'm looking up the toast Amanda Seyfried in the podcast app. Because we were saying Minji again recently. I mean she did press for the housemaid she was definitely being weird oh yeah wait yeah uh it was during the housemaid era I don't know if I'm gonna get it guys you guys remember you guys know us better than we know ourselves it's true we were recently like railing on her Instagram yeah she definitely like said something bless you thank you i never watched housemaid but i should i know it was like on my list of movies and i watched all the everything on the list i wanted to watch marty supreme and the thing is anytime i get to doing that list it's when ben's not home and i'm not watching a spooky movie when ben's not home yeah but like you know you know the twist so that should help also shout out to shannon ford who texted me not to continue watching furious because it's about child pornography like i'm good thank you jesus yeah are you ready for our fifth and final story dance when stars recap wait what was the story oh no but you know what that did remind me of i wanted to say something from the emmys that i had no idea was happening it was really cute so kelly cuoco is like married to some actor she's pregnant as hell i just saw a photo of her like literally during that ad break pregnant on the red carpet and i need that dress with her guy and her guy won and he gave such a speech like to her first of all he was like before he got up there how people thank god he was like i am here because of my sobriety like it was so it was so honest and then he was like kaylee cuoco you are the crown jewel of my life matilda who i guess is their other daughter i love you the baby in that belly i love you it was so that's so cute it was so beautiful to see a man be like so unabashedly in love and and just like happy with his family His family was his whole speech.

1:04:16I was like, who is this guy? She got some guy. He's hot. He's an actor. He won an Emmy. And he loves her. Oh, my God. It was just like when he won, he got up and hugged her and kissed her so hard. I was like, who the fuck is this guy? His name is like Tom Colicchio or something. No, Tom Kearney. Tom Pelfrey. That's exactly what I said. Wasn't there like drama with her with her last divorce or whatever? She married. Ryan Sweeting yes during like you know her Big Bang Million Dollar episode she is rich yes I think he was also wealthy if I remember he was like an heir like kind of like a nepo baby oh yeah there was drama financial and then there was another marriage and then there was Tom and I think that's the end of it honestly yeah yeah and it's nice to see like a woman move she's so financially independent like she's never gonna meet anyone who's as rich as her like she's so rich it actually see like they're not married her and tom oh okay i don't judge no no not at all but like just interesting i haven't been paying attention yeah me neither i was like i didn't recognize her at first i'm like oh who's his wife i literally just saw her dress and i was like i need that dress like it was really cute it was christian siriano custom with like cutouts for the preggers yeah really cute um okay now are you ready for our fifth and final story dancing with the stars recap let me grab my paris baguette hang on today's episode is brought to you by paris baguette goals dancing with the stars season premiere voting crashes on night one as hosts announced that they are throwing out online votes because they couldn't get abc.com to work last night the men danced on dancing with the stars and we had an elimination which i didn't know that was happening i know and i was glad because i do think a lot of the times they don't eliminate enough people quickly like sorry this is a competition um uh maybe it's because i liked the person who went home i felt that it was me and like to make like the whole like it's just i felt sad so let's go through in order of the the dances what our thoughts were and then we'll talk about the elimination okay i don't know if i'll be able to get it in order but i'll try jack banana bananas went first jackson olsen and emma slater like great jolly good show jolly good show i liked him i didn't really know a lot about him besides like you know what we discuss here on the toast i think that he was judged like kind of harshly i think they judge based on what they know about you and this is a person who's like has a lot of experience performing live and dancing so i feel like he got harshly judged because he was very fine but by the end of the night i had literally forgotten about him i know but it was like i hope he doesn't go home in hindsight i liked his whole thing and what's interesting that he said was he's not the best dancer on his team you know sabbaton bananas aren't like all professional dancers they're baseball players who like you know get jiggy with it and he has a lot of learning to do but he obviously has the spirit inside of him and he has the heart of a showman and being a good dancer this is what i learned last night and this is what harry shum jr was trying to say and it's like sir be so fucking for real being a good dancer actually doesn't really help you because ballroom dance is like not dance first of all and it's so technical you'd actually be better off like being good at math like because all the steps and the counts and this and like having good posture just because you can dance like at a wedding I don't really feel that it makes a huge difference in how you can do in the ballroom unless you don't have any rhythm so I don't completely agree I think when they try and like explain to us how Harry Shum Jr is having a hard time because he's like that too good of a dancer like Jackie when he said he like his background in dance actually is a disadvantage I was like sir yeah no like that is a bunch of hooey I think that yes you still have a even if you are like a hip-hop dancer a rhythmic dancer like a ballet dancer you have a lot to learn still because you don't know ballroom but you have an advantage because you are a dancer yeah but i don't think jackson really has an advantage besides like being in front of people it's very scary like the live show element being in front of a live audience so i think that is definitely an advantage because i think some people could be really good but get so nervous that they have no experience ever dancing in front of people let alone on tv so i think his live performance is probably his biggest advantage yeah yeah but i hate there's like 100 000 people And also like Jenna Dewan was like, oh, I'm at a disadvantage because I'm too good of a dancer.

1:08:36Like, please stop. Please. It's actually insulting to our intelligence to say that. Some people like have the dancing, the talent for dance. So yes, you have a lot to learn. And the people who don't have that are always going to be moving like a robot. And that's why I feel Connor Levitt was not having a good night. because I don't think he has the innate sense and ability to dance. Most of these men did not have that innate sense. Having two people with the same name is so unfair. And actually to the point that they shouldn't have cast two Connors. Whoa, 1 ,000%. Yeah, like I think that was a mistake.

1:09:16It was so unfair. Like, do you know how many people probably texted Conor just, and they spell their names differently, by the way, O-R and E-R. So someone who probably just texted Conor with an O and it didn't count. Like, that's just not fair. Now I think they'll just do Conor. Yeah, there's no W situation because, spoiler alert, Connor Levitt was eliminated. But yeah, that's reason enough to not choose one of them this season and choose them the next season. Agreed. Like, I'm sorry, we can't process all of that. It's just, it's not fair. It's the same way how, like, when you dance at the very end, like, you have less time to get votes.

1:09:44True. Next, we have reality star Tyler Cameron with Sharna Burgess. He did really good. Yeah. Ben was like, oh, he's going to be bad. I'm like, no, no, Ben, I heard that he can dance. Yeah. And I think he obviously has lots of room for improvement, but I think in his package, he was like being really funny and he's so handsome. Everyone's just going to love him. They are going to start the process of falling in love with him. And I saw somebody say this on a TikTok comment and it's so true. He's like, he was our generation's like Rob Roush, like reality star, hotshot. And I'm looking forward to a younger generation of people falling in love with the Tyler Cameron that we know and love.

1:10:18No, and that is what's going to happen. And his dancing will improve, but he will get votes because people just like him. And he has the baseline. because people just like and he has his existing fans but like whenever he's on tv people fall in love with him and he's a fine dancer like he can get a lot better it's not like he's starting from scratch yeah reality star connor levitt with adele zackman i'm sure you saw uh what's the same derrick huff called him dylan yes like dylan effron so fucking disrespectful yeah that's really awkward i also realized like a lot of the star power in this group is in the women yeah but I guess like Tyler and Dylan are very similar names yeah no and they have similar vibes they're like reality star but if you think about the names like if you know like name Barry like if you like Margo try you will like Dylan yeah if you like Tyler you will like yes yes yes so I'm gonna give grace to Sarah Cobb yeah but do better Connor Leavitt and Adele Zakeman they went home Adele this was her first season as a pro she won the next pro like I actually feel sick to my stomach i didn't know who to feel worse for honestly like so exciting for this girl like and she gets out on the first night the thing is is that nobody else should have gone home so like it had to be him and i almost knew it i wasn't sure if everybody felt the same way about guillermo as i did so it was obviously either guillermo or connor um he did really poorly and at the end of the day it's like a dance competition and if you can't dance the best then you have to do like Like, yeah, I'm going to provide other sort of entertainment.

1:11:46And I don't feel that Connor did that. I'm sad. I felt seriously. And I really, I was saying this to Ben. I'm like, it's so nice to see because I think a lot of people are like, I think people say, you know, I support my husband and he supports me. But it's like, it's never really like, but it's like, I think that they all now moved to LA ready to be there like for months. And Whitney's going to be the one, you know, doing the kids' lunches, everything Connor was doing for her. And I was like, it's actually so nice to see like a young couple really balancing it and supporting each other equally.

1:12:13And it's over. Like, I'm so upset. I think I'm most upset for Adele because to win the competition and then be the first one out, like, that's so rough. And you know she's being blamed. People are like, well, she had a bad choreography and she didn't move him around the dance floor enough. She didn't move him around the dance floor. Yeah. And I feel like all the other pros, like, they know the set designers and they know what the show is capable of. And so they call in, like, you know, what did they have? Mr. Big Shot for Guillermo. Like, literally looks like 42nd Street performance on Broadway.

1:12:42way and she just had like a screen up because she doesn't know so that you are at a disadvantage I felt that way about like Jan last year with Jen Affleck right but that's also part of being a rookie pro is learning these things and figuring out I don't feel that way about Jan anymore he was doing all the troop dances last night like he's very much in the mix yeah so I think there's a learning curve and that she's very much on it we'll see how it goes for Hayley Bills and Sarah Jane but Hayley has been on the show for years as a troop member so she's seen in like live she She knows the people who work on the show.

1:13:10Yeah, it's not that new. It's not as new. I just felt really bad for her. I feel bad for Connor, of course, because he was so excited. And I feel bad for Whitney because she literally made this like her whole personality for the last two weeks. I feel so physically ill. She probably has so many more shirts that she ordered that she don't get to wear. And then I was like, you know what? We shouldn't have eliminated someone on the first night. Even though I feel like they never eliminate people. It's like, let's go. No, but last season they didn't eliminate someone on the first night. It was actually really nice.

1:13:37Yeah. Yeah, and it just, like, it makes you feel, like, less of a loser that if you go home the second week, like, whatever, you know? And they eliminated two people in the second week to make up for the first night, but at least everyone got to dance twice. Someone's also going home tonight. Yeah, oh, my gosh. A girl. Then we had Guillermo and Whitney Carson, my, I think, my favorite couple, one of the two couples that I voted for. I'm not sure if I love Guillermo more. He's obviously so lovable, but, like, pregnant Whitney Carson, like, dancing is just too much for me, unfortunately. It's not surprising that Guillermo made it through.

1:14:10I think he really represents the people. Like, this is so hard to do on your body. And him just talking about how he's here to lose weight. Like, he's so funny. He's so real. His dance was pretty good. That's where, like, the expertise of being, like, an OG. She's won before. She really knows how to choreograph for her particular person. And he's obviously not an easy person to choreograph for. She's amazing. But the fact that she's pregnant, like, makes it so much better. because like they both need to move out a slower pace yep I will be voting for them until the end of time they are my new Andy I actually like them more because because she's pregnant she's pregnant more than I liked Andy um seriously to the Guillermo to the finale when like seriously I will and I don't participate in their voting system the way they want me to like I'm not like giving out scores based on out of 10 like I will send one text for the person I want so I voted for Guillermo and then I'm gonna tease you who do you oh I guess the next person is the other person I voted for who do you think it is um Ezra Ezra French my new favorite person oh my god never knew and Daniela Karagach Ezra is um not to I don't want to do oh my god is Julianne okay that was actually Ella fucking disrespectful and I respected that she like went back to like give him his proper but she fucked it up again she kept fucking up he's a Paralympian and like a a decorated Paralympian and I had no idea who he was before.

1:15:35Um, I was so moved by his package. And I think that like when they showed those pictures of him as a baby, like I seriously, I really wasn't okay. Like, and you know, you don't think about all the challenges outside of like, obviously not having a leg, like of the thing slipping off or not being able to go diagonal. You have to go this way. I was so moved by the package. I really was. And she did an amazing job choreographing. like you have to you can't just choreograph like you have to work with people and around their challenges i was so moved by it like unfortunately he's my winner like i thought i had all these plans like me and julia styles like no unfortunately ezra is my winner like yeah and that's what true inclusion looks like like he was operating at the same fucking level as everybody else he danced better than the people with two legs and honestly like it was too much it was seriously too much for me i was like crying she was like you know in a typical fox travel i don't know what they tango like you walk a straight line but like he can't walk in a straight line so we're walking diagonal and like they made it work and like you never would have known she's an expert choreographer that she's able to like tinker to fit like his needs but then all in all it was a great dance like if he was if he was wearing like a long pant instead of you would never know you would never know and i'm glad that they got paired up together because i think that like someone knew she's an expert she's an expert i remember her from last year like she really put dylan effron like she made him she's an expert in movement i was i was deeply deeply moved by the whole thing same those were my two votes and those will continue i didn't know that like your leg could fall off i know and that he's like and when he was like when i moved like this well like i might fall he's like but i'm not afraid to fall like i don't i think he just his personality and like Like his resolve was so inspiring.

1:17:26It was a testament to the human spirit, honestly. Like it was so beautiful. Yeah. Next we have comedian and podcaster Connor Wood Fibula and Riley Arnold. Okay. So I had seen a TikTok that they've been really good with their social. They're so Gen Z. And like obviously everyone's shipping them online. I thought a lot of like the judges. And they're both single? I think so. Oh, no. I think Riley has a boyfriend, but whatever. Sort of like a minor detail.

1:17:55the judges were like, oh, you guys have great chemistry. Like everyone's trying. Oh, really? I didn't see that. I had seen this video of Connor posting like day one versus day whatever. And he improved so much. When I saw the first video, I was like, oh, girl, you're going home. Like, and then a few days later, I was like, oh, shit. And you know what? He did a really good job. And she's like, she's well on her way to becoming like an expert pro. I think she dances, like she chooses good music. She chooses good vibes. Like I loved the whole country theme. He's from Texas. it was great yeah she needs like a mirror ball trophy to really cement herself she's so new and i think she i forget that she was harry jowzy's partner and he was like really mean to her what happened between them something happened there was like rumors that they were dating um i don't know if anybody ever confirmed that but he just like went on after to like say really mean things about her and she was like i think it was her first season she was like super young yeah he's a kind of the worst i know he's your favorite but like no it's obviously not like that anymore oh really from let's marry harry like you know i would just say not my favorite anymore i've seen too much do you think that if he knew that his like number one fan would sort of take a step back after let's marry harry that he wouldn't have done the show no he said it was the most money he ever made in the reunion was the most money he's ever made in a day oh my okay i appreciate that sort of like transparency yeah and he met his now girlfriend who he seems very committed to and i don't think he gives a damn about me and i don't think he's Okay.

1:19:16Yeah. I don't think he's trying to. He was doing it for you. Or like older millennial moms. Like I don't think he's worried about our thoughts on him. You know. Well that's disgusting. Yeah. Next. Musician Taylor Hanson of Hanson with Brit Stewart. Cutie. It was fine. Yeah. I liked it. I think that they won't go home as early as she did last year. But I think like a lot of the Brit fans feel that like you know. she deserved more yeah yeah but he has seven kids so cute i don't think that was insane unless the packages really step it up like i just don't think he's gonna get a lot of votes yeah agreed yeah so but you never know because i voted for two people that or one person that i didn't even know before this it's true i i did expect that i would love giro mo and pregnant with me i did expect that agreed agreed especially like if last year's andygate has any indication yeah especially we prefer an underdog like and not to be overlooked that she is pregnant correct like i am equally as obsessed with guillermo as i am with like her dancing pregnant i know and i just know she like wanted to go home so that like she could lay and like rest her weary bones but sorry girl you got a couple of more weeks she's also probably so happy that she doesn't have to miss out or slow down her career yeah right you know because that's always especially if you're an athlete and you get pregnant like of course you think you're taking some time off.

1:20:41I do want to say the show does a really good job of like letting, letting the women like Sharna Burgess took off like many years to raise her son. Like, I think that that's cool that like you're able to come back and they don't just write you off because you had a baby. Yeah. Agreed. Then we have Harry Shum Jr. With Jenna Johnson. Like, obviously it was great. Like I was bored by how great it was, you know? Yeah. I think I wasn't really watching. I think I was like, it was just annoying. Like there was no, About 9-11. I found it exciting that like when someone would start dancing, I'm like, this is either going to be amazing or terrible.

1:21:14Like there was this element of mystery. Like there was no mystery. I'm like, this is going to be good. That's great. Yeah. I don't know her though, because she was with Corey Feldman last year and got out on night two. And as this is my second season watching, I'm unfamiliar with her. She's Val's wife. Yeah. She was in Earl Meets World. She was in Earl Meets World. She sort of confirmed the Tom Brady rumors. So thank you for your service. So I'm getting to know her. Yeah. and she really looks like jenna dewan oh was that the last one that was the last one yeah oh we also got like just a little like glimpse into the women um to me i think that that's a more interesting bunch just like celebs wise yeah but women are more interesting than men it's true and especially in dance it's so much easier for a man to to excel at this show because your job is sort of to like be invisible like and just like lift the girl and like let the girl be the star so i think a lot of the dances look better when the girl is the pro it's hard when the guy is a pro disagree oh let's so you know we've had this conversation before and you've maintained that i think it's really hard for the men i think it looks like one girl's like doing the at 100 and the guy's at 10 that's what it looks like the like the difference becomes more obvious yeah but um no i think that like all the spotlight bone dance is like meant to like sort of highlight the woman i think so i wonder what it'll be with two females i'm so curious to see and they're also like of the same size for the most yes who's gonna be picking out who i don't think you're gonna do a lot of lifts or what if we're doing spinning circles around the day like who's doing the lifting i have no idea who's the strength the fun part of dancing with the stars obviously watching the performances but then also being an eagle-eyed viewer like seeing who's in the background because i don't know if they let normal people sit in anymore everyone in the audience.

1:23:03Michaela was there. Macy was there. Demi May was there. She wears a dress and goes on Dancing with the Stars. Nick Viles was there for Tyler as his like friends and family. Yeah. It's just like fun to, and they always bring back, you know, like Jojo Siwa, like family. They say it's a Dancing with the Stars family. Really? I mean, you can see that like Robert Irwin was just like on stage at one point. Yeah. The voting being down, like seriously, it's giving low budget. I don't think a lot of people Vote online I think the main thing is text Message and data rates may apply I wonder what it is I think it's text Because every time they promote On TikTok and stuff Text Whitney to 21523 It's such a good show Tonight's the night I feel like there are also a lot of girls Who did you vote for?

1:23:54You didn't tell us Oh of course I voted for Guillermo 10 times Let me see 21523 three. Guillermo, Guillermo, Guillermo. I only voted for Guillermo. Wow. Because I feel like when you vote for everyone, like I wanted to vote for my friends, of course, like Tyler C and Connor. But like when you start voting for and then I thought Ezra was great. So it's like I would have actually just voted for everyone. And I wanted my vote to mean something. You could have just voted for four people. Four is so many. When the pack is so big right now. Four is too many. Like I have a champion each week. Like for me this week, Guillermo was my winner.

1:24:27Claudia, use your voice cast your votes okay i'll make a snack and bring an elderly friend and an umbrella it is raining today oh you just never know oh my god i meant to tell you i just wanted to say i know everyone's been saying this but i finally tried goop kitchen yesterday um we ordered it for mahjong jackie it people keep talking about i'm like how good could it be it's a restaurant and like you don't like food correct and it's goop so it's like okay i'll have a kale salad I'm good. No. She makes real food, by the way. I had a teriyaki bowl. We got a pizza for the group. Someone else got a teriyaki bowl.

1:25:04Someone else got like these tofu wraps. Jackie, it was so sick. And I think it's a ghost kitchen. So I don't think you can go and sit and eat. I think it's like made for delivery. So it's like it was packaged perfectly. They had these like cool little things and a salad dressing. It was so innovative. And the food, I can't even, I saw Joey Camasa making like a thousand videos about Goop Kitchen. I'm like, how can it be that good? yeah it's that good like i'm having it again for lunch today so good well i need it in my neighborhood yeah you do i think there's only like one in la and then one here um i need them to start franchising like nationwide because you guys need goop kitchen in your life and it's crazy because like i thought it would seriously be like gwyneth like we're having air for lunch right no we're having rice and it's like just rice like it's not you know made of mushrooms like it's rice It's a rose.

1:25:50A rose. It's brown rice. Yeah, I can't believe this episode's an hour and a half. I know. And like, we've been doing that a lot recently. Sorry, our episodes have been coming out a little bit later. But they're so long. It just, it takes a longer time to upload. So let's wrap this up. Any more feelings you want to share? No, okay. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast of Melania Morning Show. We just love the fastest racing internet. Just go. Bye. Love ya. Bye.