Dancing With The Semi-Stars: Thursday, September 17th, 2026

9:34Claudia Oshry:I can hear them chime.

9:37Jackie Oshry:Just hear them chiming. Actually, you know what? Something I didn't realize as I entered motherhood was that like I would be singing the Hairspace soundtrack almost daily. I sing. Is that your go to? two nicest kids in town and good morning baltimore pretty much like every bath time that's so cute so those are your go-to's yeah you don't realize like what you're going to end up singing if you

9:59Claudia Oshry:had told me that it would actually i probably could have guessed i could have guessed for you but if you told me it would be like elvis presley i'd be like right it's just so funny where the wind takes you and i really have to thank austin butler for that like because that movie elvis came out when my first son harry was a baby and then i just like really started like in that song can't help falling in love. And now it's my lullaby for all three babes for four years now. And if Austin Butler didn't do that movie, like that would not be the case. Isn't that crazy? It is.

10:30Jackie Oshry:And let's talk about Austin Butler doing that movie. Austin, yes. And how it kind of like, in my opinion, ruined his career. He didn't have a career before, so.

10:38Claudia Oshry:He didn't have one after either. It just sort of kept things. It went like this. Yeah, right. And then back down. Like there's a spike. Like it never happened. But other people say Dune and he's in this and he's not.

10:51Jackie Oshry:I'm sorry. Nobody on the planet is ever going to convince me that Dune is a successful franchise. And I know like you could show me figures. You could show me. It is. You know that it is. But it's not. It's giving like bots. You know, like only bots have been to the theaters.

11:06Claudia Oshry:Oh, no. I disagree. But I understand where you're coming from.

11:11Jackie Oshry:I understand. Shout out to the comments. Like, have you ever watched Dune? I just don't believe. and maybe it's because I don't know if in my life I've ever come in contact with somebody who has watched Dune I think my husband has I think really yeah I'll have to chat with him then

11:25Claudia Oshry:yeah but you know he'll go see anything he loves the movie theater so like honestly his bar is kind

11:30Jackie Oshry:of low but it doesn't mean like but but so he did still see it Zach's criteria for seeing a movie is like is it in theaters he does not watch things that are straight to DVD like yeah just

11:39Claudia Oshry:wants to go to the theater no and I think sometimes he watches movies like remember we caught them

11:43Jackie Oshry:watching um deadpool we did i like we caught them watching porn no because remember i told you like

11:52Claudia Oshry:years ago that my husband is always watching deadpool like weirdly well if ryan reynolds

11:57Jackie Oshry:has no fans like your husband died like no i don't know what it is like anytime it's on tv

12:03Claudia Oshry:like if he stops on a channel that's playing deadpool like he will always watch it i guess

12:07Jackie Oshry:like it's his version of like legally blonde we would never skip over legally blonde it is and so

12:11Claudia Oshry:I was trying to tell you this a few years ago and it came up and I wasn't in a place where I could I could listen and it came up a couple times like over the course of the show I think we were even in the Hamptons like two summers ago and then in the course of those conversations that those few weeks we walked in on them watching Deadpool with your husband too that's seriously funny we caught them we caught them red-handed no I feel like husbands love Deadpool because obviously like

12:39Jackie Oshry:Ryan Reynolds, Blake Lively. Their reputations have been deeply tarnished in the last year or two. And I don't think it's affected the husbands. They still love and ride at dawn for Ryan Reynolds. It's nothing Deadpool can't fix. It's so true. What is Deadpool? I only know. What's the character they made off of Ryan Baldoni? Yeah, like something pool. Yeah, like fem pool. He's like a fake feminist or whatever. What was his name? I forget. That was funny. Sorry, I like that.

13:06Claudia Oshry:That was like a funny time. Yeah, which part?

13:11Jackie Oshry:Just that part. No, like the Deadpool part or like the Blake Lively Ryan Reynolds time?

13:15Claudia Oshry:No, no, just the part where they made like a character of Justin Boutonita that was like, you know. Yeah, I enjoyed that. Like Woke Pool.

13:21Jackie Oshry:Woke Pool. What was his name? Okay. What was it? Nice Pool. That sounds like such a good name. No, that's good.

13:28Claudia Oshry:That's really good. That's really good.

13:34Claudia Oshry:Nice Pool.

13:36Jackie Oshry:What'd you have for dinner last night? a little branzino oh my god did you go out or you didn't make branzino at home we had at home wow you desecrated your new home by cooking fish in it the emhoffers is really getting to you

13:51Claudia Oshry:the home is meant to be lived in i don't know fish is an out of home type of thing we have fish a lot because we have a lot of salmon so we're not like anti-fish salmon is especially actually i think

14:03Jackie Oshry:like cooking branzina ben cooks like a dover soul cooking a white fish in your house i believe is safe as long as you get it from as ben calls it a good fishmonger also i cook fish particularly

14:14Claudia Oshry:i cook fish in the oven not on the stove so it's not as aromatic but that's not why i do it you know i just like don't like to cook on the stove if i don't have to um so it's when i cook salmon it's like not a big deal it's not like that's crazy it's not life ruining oh i think i would

14:32Jackie Oshry:have to move like salmon seeps into your curtains and I also I can't like go another minute like being inauthentic I didn't cook it um I brought it in oh my god that was like low-key deceptive

14:50Claudia Oshry:of you I love that it was but you know I'm not a deceitful person so I I had to come clean so you

14:54Jackie Oshry:ordered takeout and the takeout that you got was branzino branzino and salmon yes yeah I feel like branzino is unless you're like a true world renowned chef it's not something you can whip

15:03Claudia Oshry:up at home even like a good home chef no but also it's bones yeah of course but i do cook salmon at home but i did not last night i just like i don't know why i couldn't just couldn't just take the win you know you could have just owned that no i couldn't just like let you guys think like oh

15:19Jackie Oshry:she makes branzino at home well this is our fatal flaw like we are far too honest with our audience like it's it leaves us feeling like you know raw and wounded but it's all for the sake of content it's just who we are though you know it's true yeah i i guess i've never realized it before but i am like a chronic oversharer i don't know if like i was born that way or it's a byproduct of sharing for a living and like the better this show is the more i share like the more i share the better the show is so it's like i feel rewarded when i share so i know that i've seen it now impact my personal life i'll be at a party or like i'll play mahjong with someone new and i'm just like telling them so much shit about myself and I'm like girl shut up yeah oh I was gonna ask if

15:55Claudia Oshry:you meant like online or offline that you're an overshare you think offline you're an overshare

16:01Jackie Oshry:yeah I do I have found myself being like I need to like keep my like my shit a little closer to

16:06Claudia Oshry:the best yeah but that's what makes turdy turdy and that's why everybody loves you I'm very easily

16:12Jackie Oshry:readable like in like if we go somewhere and we meet someone new like you will know by the time we get in the car you'll be like oh you hated that person or you liked that person that's true but I also know maybe that's just because you know me

16:22Claudia Oshry:I know you really well

16:22Jackie Oshry:I find that like I maybe don't like I think that a lot of people can read me like that I don't think so no you don't think? no

16:30Claudia Oshry:I think everybody's scared of you

16:33Jackie Oshry:oh this fucking fake ass narrative I'm literally so generous and kind and charitable it's insane and we're so scared of your generosity kindness and charitable nature I just want to say something speaking of charity yeah I'm so charitable it should shake you to your core

16:48Claudia Oshry:you're shaking in our boots

16:49Jackie Oshry:I want to make a major shout out because there's no point in doing charity if you don't get credit for it that's actually quite the opposite but but go on I want to give a major shout out to Shannon Ford so I was on my you guys know I'm on the board of the Mark Schoenwetter Holocaust Education Foundation and it's end of the year which is like a huge time for fundraising for us um and we were looking for people to match donations so like you know wealthy people to like help you know if we raise ten thousand dollars Mark Bloomberg will match it or whatever I haven't heard from Mark Bloomberg. So I, of course, you know, went to work, texting a couple of people.

17:22Jackie Oshry:Instantly, Shannon Ford,$5 ,000. Queen. She's a queen for that. Queen. So if anybody else is a wealthy individual and wants to help with the fundraising efforts, please, wealthy individuals, reach out to me for this, and I have a couple other things I need to talk to you about.

17:37Claudia Oshry:I love that. I also didn't even tell you, like, one of the highlights of my day yesterday.

17:43Jackie Oshry:One of the highlights of your day? I wasn't chatting with me in the morning.

17:46Claudia Oshry:Oh, of course. So I said one of amongst that. I played Maj on an automatic shuffling table. What? Yeah. How did you not share? We've been recording for 18 minutes. I've been like, I meant to tell you yesterday. I like took a picture of the table. I was like, because we were talking about like. Oh my God, you didn't send me a picture. Just because when we were just talking about like sharing with new people, I was like playing with new friends. You met new people. And I was like, oh, I have to take a picture for my sister, Claudia.

18:11Jackie Oshry:And then you didn't even send it to me, you fucking bitch.

18:13Claudia Oshry:I played on an automatic shuffling table. Yes. Ask me anything.

18:17Jackie Oshry:Okay. I was under the impression that the automatic shuffling tables were only made for mahjong tiles the size of Hong Kong mahjong, which is not the version we play. That's like Chinese mahjong. You found a table that was for regular size tiles. I was under our size.

18:32Claudia Oshry:I was on the same impression. And yes, they were. Oh, they almost looked like, oh, my mahj tiles. But the faces were like the same as those Amazon faces. and they were the size that we were used to. I was shocked to see.

18:47Jackie Oshry:And do you feel like you played so many more games because the setup was so quick?

18:52Claudia Oshry:Yes, I would say we played five games in one hour. Oh, that's a lot. Yeah. That is a lot, a lot. It was really amazing, but it makes you super lazy. It makes you super lazy because then it's like, you feel like, oh, we still have to deal. Like you get really lazy. Oh, oh, oh, that's funny.

19:10Jackie Oshry:That's really funny. Okay, wait. And did you find, because you had said that like you were a little hesitant to do an automatic shuffling table because you find the shuffling, while laborious and annoying, it's kind of the only time you don't have to focus so much and you can chat, catch up, and then the game starts and you kind of go quiet. Did you feel like you didn't get to catch up with your Maj crew yesterday because you didn't have time to shuffle?

19:29Claudia Oshry:There was definitely plenty of catching up. Whether or not like I got enough, you know, brain off time versus brain on, it was definitely an adjustment for me, but worth it. Well worth it. Wow. do we need to invest in a table especially because when everybody's like shuffling and deal and you know racking other people get up and go to the bathroom or get a snack and so yes it's a reset time it's not really like the big group catch-up that i think it is do we need to get one like yeah maybe yeah i'm putting a mod table in my house that's already ordered and was like custom so um that's so annoying i'm getting it and it's like cuter i mean the the table you don't get that pargitude with the automatic chuckler.

20:10Claudia Oshry:Yeah, it's not like gorgeous. It's not gorgeous. It looks like you're running a casino in your house.

20:13Jackie Oshry:Right, like a poker table. The thing is like we're always playing Mahjong in a rush because like we either have like a two-hour window for naps or like some kid's about to be home like or it's late and we want to go to sleep. So if we could play more games, like if we could sort of increase our efficacy and our output, I think it might be worth the investment.

20:31Claudia Oshry:Yeah, I wonder how much it is. I didn't want to be like uncouth. Actually, I didn't even think to ask, but even if I thought of it.

20:35Jackie Oshry:I'll be uncouth.

20:36Claudia Oshry:Even if I thought of it, I don't think I would have asked.

20:38Jackie Oshry:How much is an automatic shuffling mahjong table?

20:44All right.

20:44Jackie Oshry:They obviously vary. Wayfair has one for$720, but I don't think you would like it. Okay. This one, which looks like a casino table, is$2 ,000. Oh, Wayfair has one. Oh, I think it also comes with four chairs for$5 ,000. You could go small or big.

21:02Claudia Oshry:I wonder, like, hers was really good because it fit those size tiles that we like.

21:06Jackie Oshry:Yeah, so I think a lot of these are also Hong Kong size, which doesn't work for us. Yes. Interesting. Yeah, I'm seeing lots of varying costs. Okay. Well, maybe she'll hear this and just like text me the press. Send me a link. So I don't have to ask. Maybe she has an extra one in the garage. So I don't have to ask. Yeah, right. Okay, I mean, we do have like a lot to do today. Yeah. And I feel that I've gotten off my chest everything I wanted to get off my chest.

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27:34Claudia Oshry:Our first story, Olivia Jade pokes fun at the college admission scandal with a cheeky new Reformation campaign. So Reformation just launched its new preppy fall campaign and it features olivia jade in collegiate wear so she is wearing a sweatshirt that says college just says college they captioned it the kind of crew that suits her better

27:58Jackie Oshry:and crew is also what she was the sport that she was like fake on the team for now i just want to say i am thrilled and relieved like as a culture we've got because i haven't seen gotten to a place where we can all like sort of collectively just like shrug at the college admissions scandal because at the time like every conversation about like privilege and wealth was sort of like pinned on Lori Loughlin and her daughters and I think that that was probably difficult for them and in hindsight like seriously who gives a fuck like who gives a fuck yeah yeah also I'm glad we're all like poking fun at it now because at the time it was so serious like for what

28:41Claudia Oshry:It was, but they did the crime. They served the time, which is like insane for what they did. The fact that like people went to jail for it.

28:51Jackie Oshry:We can't even send Lindsay Clancy to jail, okay? Right. But Lori Loughlin's getting locked up abroad.

28:57Claudia Oshry:So I think like it was more than time served in terms of making things right.

29:05Jackie Oshry:100%. And she, Olivia Jade has really successfully relaunched her career. obviously like dating notable people, launching her own makeup brand, going back to YouTube. But she's never really ever outside of Red Table Talk, which was like genuinely an iconic moment. You had to be there. She's never talked about it again. So this is the first time she's sort of referencing it. And I like L-O-V-E love. Olivia Jade could like really not do anything to make me dislike her. I just love her.

29:29Claudia Oshry:Yeah, it's true. And then they said they're going to be donating 100 % of net proceeds from this style. So I guess from like one of these pieces to Yes Scholars, a nonprofit that helps expand higher education access for students from under-resourced communities because i guess you can't well that's great just make fun of the scandal and not like and not do anything about

29:47Jackie Oshry:that oh but you also just like can't make a donation to underprivileged communities without

29:51Claudia Oshry:like you know starting stuff you know yeah without also like earning the money profiting off of it yeah right it's so but that's always the thing with like percentage of proceeds it's like well you could make a donation but this works too like you know no i have no problem with this they're

30:04Jackie Oshry:getting ahead of any sort of potential backlash because ultimately it benefits underserved communities which is great um and i just love this what's funny is like i saw this picture going around and i was like why do people care it didn't initially sort of hit me that she's wearing a sweatshirt that says college and she's like the college admissions girl because i do feel like she's really successfully like beaten the allegations and like moved on with her life so much time has passed it's been six years she did jacob alorty like so much has happened yeah i think

30:32Claudia Oshry:everyone just really moved on from it it's crazy the way that we have amnesia about things when like something was like the biggest deal or the biggest story in the world and then

30:42Jackie Oshry:you forget that's always how it happens that's really why they say like time heals all wounds it's true you just need time like i just remember that like month where the college and like you couldn't speak on it without like seriously everyone coming for you it was such a fucking sensitive issue talking about like education in this country and privilege and wealth and access Like it was so hot button. Oh my God. And now we're making fun of it. Like seriously, thank God.

31:10Claudia Oshry:But then there's also just be careful because then there's also people who do something once six years ago, 10 years ago, and we'll never forget it. You know? It's true. Time doesn't heal always. So I don't know what to tell you. It's circumstantial. It is. But just know like things can be forgotten.

31:26Jackie Oshry:I don't know. I feel like me and Sam Hunt is like really proof that maybe some wounds take longer to heal. But like eventually, yeah, like I did get over Sam Hunt's DUI. A couple of good songs helped.

31:42Claudia Oshry:No, but we're still talking about it. That's different than like forgetting. Because like literally every time we talk about him, we mention it. Yeah, but we mention it because we're saying we're over it. and like when we talk about Olivia J we don't even mention it because we don't even think about it

31:57Jackie Oshry:it's true it's true um Jackie actually sent me such an interesting blind item yeah we dabble

32:03Claudia Oshry:in blind item culture I did send you what was it oh yes about it was clearly about Kelly Clarkson

32:08Jackie Oshry:oh yeah I'm glad you're bringing this up so let me read it to you to her credit this singer turned talk show host the original blind this singer turned talk show host turned singer aka Kelly Clarkson probably could have gotten the headliner slot but was willing to let the legend didn't have it for the desert festival she's getting paid the same as him though so that people assume is kelly clarkson and garth brooks she is playing the night before him i just want to be clear i had no issue with her with her being before garth brooks it's like why couldn't she have been like she didn't need to be on sunday is what i'm saying she could have been friday or saturday she should have she been above riley green or zach top now i had no problem with garth brooks i just want to say but yes i could see that definitely being the truth yeah i feel

32:48Claudia Oshry:like it was her choice I don't think there was a snub in there is all I'm saying and so far doesn't

32:53Jackie Oshry:sound what's gotten Kelly so far in this industry is like she doesn't get bogged down by like these sort of ego ego driven um like stats and and vanity things like she's playing stage coach everyone's gonna show up for there'll probably be just as many people there for Kelly as for Garth like everyone's just gonna come for both um she gets paid and she gets to go home early like woo

33:11Claudia Oshry:who yeah I think she's just focused on the paycheck yeah she would take it at any time because it's like true who cares what time you perform yeah and she's also like slowly getting

33:24Jackie Oshry:back into live performing she's obviously been doing kelly okey and stuff that's a small studio audience stagecoach can be a hundred thousand people so you know what maybe take it slow like do I have to you think kelly's gonna go on tour the thing is I obviously thought about that as well should we I think about it every year with stagecoach and I'm just like waiting for this

33:41Claudia Oshry:undeniable lineup that will make me go like Luke Holmes, Rascal Flatts and Kelly Clarkson.

33:45Jackie Oshry:Yeah. I don't think about it every year. Cause I've sort of made peace with the fact that like I'm not in my, there were, there were years where every year was like, yes, of course I'm going to stage coach and I'm not in that era right now. And there have been great lineups that I've missed and I've been okay with. The only reason I thought maybe this year, like we could like seriously just pack everyone up and go is because of Kelly. But I do think this is not going to be our only opportunity to see Kelly now that the Kelly Clarkson show is over.

34:09Claudia Oshry:Yeah, I agree.

34:10Jackie Oshry:so I feel confident that like she will be coming to a city near us yeah no and if the rest of the festival like were more compelling for me I would have made a trip potentially because like we can

34:21Claudia Oshry:consider it we can go on a trip there's stuff to do in Palm Springs well I could go on a trip

34:25Jackie Oshry:of course we travel but alas no alas no the rest of the lineup wasn't compelling enough to even think about it. For me. For me. But not for you. I don't know, Florida Georgia Line. Oh, for you. So what is the lineup, like the three headliners? Riley Green. That would get you. No. That would get you to seriously pack everything up and go. Rascal Flats.

34:55Claudia Oshry:I'm going to not say Kelly Clarkson because I didn't even know she was an option up until this point.

34:58Jackie Oshry:I know, because she is country in some ways, but not in others.

35:02Claudia Oshry:Yeah. rascal flats luke combs like not to be basic but like morgan morgan yeah me too me too same

35:12Claudia Oshry:yeah with like i don't know maybe cody johnson is like right before luke combs ella langley yeah i like ella langley but i like i'm i'm not like on the on the train you know i am like i've

35:28Jackie Oshry:in the last couple of weeks almost two times almost two times like margot almost convinced me to go to philadelphia over the summer like i almost went and then like two weeks ago she was playing like deep in new jersey margot was like should we go and i thought about it i didn't but i thought about it yeah if she comes to new york city which like being a country fan in new york city is genuinely like one of the worst experiences ever nobody comes here and if they do it's like two maybe three hours in connecticut or new jersey nobody comes to the garden or let alone met life

35:55Claudia Oshry:like literally nobody no it's either pnc bank or jones beach also honorable mention lady a i would show up for i would as well i could swap out morgan wall for lady a because you can always see morgan wall and he's like you know young and touring and yeah yeah find him somewhere yeah

36:12Jackie Oshry:um what was the story olivia j of course it was just i like to see people sort of unabashedly

36:21Claudia Oshry:like not giving a fuck yes and brands as well this is good for reformation yeah i have like a

36:27Jackie Oshry:little bit of respect for reformation brands are so afraid to like even embroil themselves in something remotely controversial because people will like stand outside their store and like throw rocks through the window so you know what like i love this yeah are you ready for our next

36:39Claudia Oshry:story which is really crazy really actually yeah yeah i cuss a little travis kelsey has been named as a victim in a multi-million dollar fraud scheme by prosecutors.

36:51Jackie Oshry:This is really great.

36:52Claudia Oshry:Travis Kelsey has been taken for a ride. He's been named as a victim in a fraud scheme by prosecutors in a Missouri court according to reports on Tuesday September 15th Siddharth Jawar was sentenced to 11 years in prison. We were just talking about Siddharth like yesterday. According to a press release from the U.S. Attorney's Office Eastern District of Missouri Siddharth pleaded guilty to three counts of wire fraud in January and has been ordered to pay more than$31 million in restitution to his victims after running a Ponzi scheme, the release noted. According to outlets, Travis Kelsey was only briefly mentioned in court and prosecutors did not expand on his connection to the case.

37:30Claudia Oshry:However, a Forbes article published in 2021 states that Kelsey was an investor in the SwiftArk Venture Labs Fund created by SwiftArk Capital LLC, an investment company co-founded by Siddharth. Siddharth ran the investment company Swiftar Capital LLC and began investing clients funds in a single investment Philip Morris Pakistan in 2015 per the press release. However, when the value of the investment declined, he didn't tell the investors, instead claiming they were making profits. And of course, took Peter's money to pay Paul. And that's how you get yourself in a Ponzi scheme.

38:05Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I feel that the headlines around this were kind of misleading. It made it seem like Travis himself lost$31 million to this random guy. Of course they want you to think that.

38:12Claudia Oshry:How stupid are you? Okay, but they want you to think that because they want you to click.

38:16Jackie Oshry:Yeah, and it turns out like he's involved in, I think, like a random way. In the same way that I think when you're a celebrity or just a very wealthy person, like these random opportunities come to you and like you take one, you give a little money here, a little money there. So I feel like that's what happened between Travis and Siddharth.

38:30Claudia Oshry:Yeah, that he's just like one of many complainants.

38:35Jackie Oshry:You know, it kind of sounds like Brendan Fitzpatrick of Rich Kids of Beverly Hills fame. Are you following that saga? Like a little bit. he um like sort of swindled investors he raised like 80 million dollars telling people that he like solved like seriously the energy crisis in like nepal or something and of course he did there was no solve he didn't um and he's like out and i think his investors are suing him that's what it

39:00Claudia Oshry:is yeah like give us our money back we went through that story we tried to get our heads around it yeah and we couldn't this seems pretty like textbook ponzi scheme right um american greed

39:14Jackie Oshry:i look forward to the episode on sit earth explaining the whole thing yeah though i i get

39:19Claudia Oshry:it for a while i didn't understand ponzi scene because i was like where's the money going like when birdie made off loses hundreds of million dollars i'm like you can't even spend hundreds of million dollars so like even though he has you know a house and a boat and this and that like

39:32Jackie Oshry:where's the money yeah i think that like very very rarely a ponzi scheme like actually works out fine because like at its core at the beginning you just need to borrow money from this account because this account like i fucked up and i need but once that money comes back i'll pay the other guy back sometimes the money comes back and like you're good i would love to hear from someone

39:51Claudia Oshry:who almost entered into an unsuccessful ponzi scheme but the ship righted itself the issue is

39:58Jackie Oshry:like the original core issue like that money never comes back so you just end up stealing from everybody else to cover where you just stole from but there's always going to be that chunk missing

40:06Claudia Oshry:and that's where the cycle begins and also you're probably because you lost that initial money like you're probably bad at business and you're going to lose more money and you're a thief and cheaters never prosper and you're just going to keep losing money like it's not like that was a one-off of

40:22Jackie Oshry:money loss for you yeah taking from a different account to like cover another account it's just like genuinely bad decision making and so i can't really trust that you're gonna fix this

40:30Claudia Oshry:and and don't forget like you lost that money to begin with why did you lose that money because you made a poor decision in business because you're not smart but there are definitely people walking around who like almost yeah i'd love to i mean i know they'll never tell us because like they committed a crime and they're just happy they got away with it and that everything was okay but like yeah i would love to hear if like you started a ponzi scheme and like it worked out for you

40:51Jackie Oshry:and like you just really needed to borrow money temporarily yeah don't do it this is seriously my worst nightmare which part like i think it happens a lot where like you this not the travis being travis is your worst nightmare like being like elvis elvis being stolen from by like people close to dane cook famously i think it was like his brother or someone like literally stole a hundred million dollars from him like okay so that's different yeah that's my worst nightmare like having my money stolen yeah not it's like everyone's worst nightmare actually i don't think i'm unique in that being robbed is a nightmare yeah right no but like obviously when you think of being robbed you think like someone breaking into your house like with a gun no i'm talking about like like transfers withdrawals like

41:37Claudia Oshry:yeah especially by people you trust it's a breach of trust right right yeah i understand not being Siddharth is not being that's not your nightmare no and for Travis like I'm thrilled to

41:50Jackie Oshry:learn that he probably didn't take a huge hit on this Pakistani venture I also saw funny tweet

41:57Claudia Oshry:who was like they for sure have an iron clad of prenup well this would never happen to Taylor

42:02Jackie Oshry:let's just say that it's true I don't know swift arc well I thought that was weird too hopefully and I feel that this is probably the case like the people who manage her money and stuff like are now managing their money yeah he needs he sort of went to her people he needs to

42:18Claudia Oshry:level up but also we would say like considering he's like the less moneyed one in the relationship like he needs to have like financial independence and he does i wouldn't recommend if he were the woman in this situation i wouldn't say like go use your husband's money managers i wouldn't

42:32Jackie Oshry:no how do you think they are sharing finances if at all or do you think they're totally just keeping everything separate. I think like hers is hers and his is his. But I'm sure you saw they bought a house. It went viral. In Kansas City. In Kansas City. That'll probably be like their primary residence. Yeah. Who paid for that? I feel like he did.

42:55Claudia Oshry:I feel like he did too. Though he's not the primary earner, he wants to be like chivalrous and still have those responsibilities. And she would never be buying a house in Missouri if it wasn't for him.

43:08Jackie Oshry:No, and it's kind of best case scenario for him because like the nicest house in Missouri is probably around like$6 million. But it's like if he played for the Giants or like the Rams, he would be on the hook for$100 million. They'd have to go split spill. Half season, not break up, sorry.

43:21Claudia Oshry:Split the bills.

43:23Jackie Oshry:Like I'm sure you've seen that, I don't know if it's like a BuzzFeed or whatever. It's like here's what a million dollars gets you in all 50 states and it's shocking.

43:31Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

43:31Jackie Oshry:Like literally shocking. In LA, it gets you a double wide trailer. in like Michigan it gets you a palace yeah like a home on the lake yeah right damn it's insane

43:44Claudia Oshry:damn so yeah I also agree that he bought it okay cute yeah like he was and that makes Taylor feel like spend his last dime on her and like that's why he's a good guy it's true yeah but the thing is he would never have to.

43:59Jackie Oshry:No, because like thanks to her, he has lots of dimes.

44:03Claudia Oshry:Yeah, yeah. And she would like never let him.

44:06Jackie Oshry:Like we forget that him and Jason got like a$100 million podcast deal. Oh, right. In addition to being State Farm, Subway, Pfizer, his football contract, which is hefty too. He's like a TV show host. He hosted, he's fine. Yeah, yeah, he is.

44:24Claudia Oshry:Are you ready for our next story? What number? Three. Yeah. You're going to hate this. Secret Lives of Women Wives star Taylor Franke. Paul allegedly failed multiple drug tests. And her custody time with her kids has been reduced to eight hours a week. And I believe that's four with the older two and four with the younger son with Dakota. Obviously, I hate this. Yeah, but it also answers some of our questions.

44:48Jackie Oshry:And I did take a little heed for suggesting that maybe she was using drugs. People are like, Claudia, you really don't understand mental health.

44:56Claudia Oshry:um now what so yeah a new report is alleging that the mom of three has failed multiple drug tests in recent weeks and as a result she has lost out on visitation time with her children according to tmz sources close to the custody case tell the outlet that taylor failed the drug tests within the last 60 days and the courts have since ruled that she is now limited to just eight hours total a week with her three kids she will now get four hours a week with the two kids she shares with her ex-husband Tate Paul and another four hours with her two-year-old son ever with Dakota for the time being the name of the alleged substances she tested positive for are unknown with a source stating one of them is not readily available as a prescription medication even more sources close to Taylor what does that mean like street drugs okay right I actually thought what's a street drug like start naming drugs like something that you can't get at a pharmacy like well yeah like heroin like

45:47Jackie Oshry:Not saying she did heroin. Like cocaine. Yeah, right. Yes, yes.

45:51Claudia Oshry:Even more sources close to Taylor spoke to TMZ, and they did not deny these new bombshell claims. Rather, they told the outlet they consider this leak continued harassment and intimidation due to the gag order issued in the custody case.

46:03Jackie Oshry:I mean, like, at what point is, like, something your fault? You know, like... Right.

46:09Claudia Oshry:No, and also, like, perhaps this leak is intended to make her look bad because it obviously does. But that doesn't change the fact that she failed the test. Right. like we have to just work with those set of facts as well and i actually feel sick about this mostly

46:23Jackie Oshry:as it pertains to ever the older kids like are older and i feel that they actually have a pretty stable home life with their dad and there's like some stability in their life like yeah they have this crazy mom but like you know they have your kids need routine and they have each other too yeah ever I feel is just bounce between two crazy people like Taylor losing custody is terrible but like is it better that he's with Dakota like I don't know who's worse in this situation I just

46:52Claudia Oshry:like have hope based on nothing but just because it's like more palatable that he's spending a lot of time with like his grandma her mom yeah I thought the same because last season she was

47:04Jackie Oshry:always picking up ever from his grandma's house and I was like you know what thank god for that

47:07Claudia Oshry:yeah and i mean this is really hard to comment on because on the one hand it's like you're doing drugs like and you have children like you should not have custody of them on the other hand it's like children need to be with their mother but like not if she's like of course this fucking basket case no 100 but i'm sorry like four hours a week with your children is nothing is nothing like how do you how do you get to a plan like it's really hard because i don't want to sound like so judgmental judgmental I know but like what are you doing yeah no I don't think it's

47:42Jackie Oshry:judgmental I feel like she's been giving a lot of rope like we're always giving her the benefit of the doubt because it does feel like she's in this toxic cycle but like at what point like are you just like not being an active participant in your own life at the cost of your kids yeah I feel that this is definitely what Michaela was referring to when she said she was like learning things because this isn't new information didn't happen yesterday like it just broke yesterday yeah um and i do agree like that's not a show i want to be on yeah and we're doing drugs

48:15Claudia Oshry:and losing custody and like you know you have to take drug tests in order for like your custody agreement and like the power of doing drugs is like more powerful than spending more than four

48:24Jackie Oshry:hours with your child no it's so crazy and if you watch her on social media like reality and Taylor's version are not seeing eye to eye like she's living this healing journey she has found Christ and she is celibate and she is this and she is that and she's rebuilding and she's healing and it's like well girl everything we hear about you is counterpoints to that yeah

48:50Claudia Oshry:no and she spent the last few months like ever since the video broke like sort of posting I follow her but like I really scroll past because it's like not for me but I got the gist that like she's reconnected with her faith she's you know really healing and focusing and doing all this painful self-work to to move forward and the end result we're gonna see it soon and she's a butterfly and and the whole time you've been doing drugs and you're doing drugs and like what could she what could she say it's definitely more than marijuana but even still if marijuana is going to stand between you and your children don't smoke marijuana obviously or like ketamine

49:28Jackie Oshry:therapy they they like to do that well if you have a prescription for something and it comes up in a drug test i feel that that doesn't count like i don't think i don't think that's what we're talking about no this is not an oversight like oh my drugs from my therapy came up like that's not what happened yeah i just like feel sick that ever is with dakota like he's no better and i do now feel even stronger stronger but is he also taking drug tests i think so that would you know i i had felt that like their relationship definitely mimicked like you know user type of behavior and that he was maybe like an enabler or like a dealer that was just like totally theory like alligate like no proof um but if he's also taking the drug tests and not failing them i i don't know why i think he

50:11Claudia Oshry:is but i feel like the judge was like pretty harsh on both of them and wouldn't like make taylor

50:16Jackie Oshry:oh my god speaking of judges i saw the most upsetting video of the judge in the beerman case she wants to let him out under the rules that he lives with his mother and no siblings are in the house but it's like he was living with his mother this whole time but that's not fair to his siblings no of course but like why is being under the same roof as your mom some sort of protective precaution. He's been living under the same roof as his mom the whole time.

50:42Claudia Oshry:Right. But also like, so your siblings get thrown out of the house because like you're a disgusting animal.

50:47Jackie Oshry:Yeah. I was shocked when I saw the judge saying that. I think the disgusting animal should be thrown out of the house. Should be, stay where you are. Yeah. I was shocked. That's really weird. It was very bizarre. Like a repeat offender. Yeah. That's like sort of like the exact case where they don't let you out. like if your background matches up with your crime like i feel like they keep you in there but if you're otherwise like an upstanding citizen and you might be innocent or whatever like they'll let you go home maybe with like an ankle monitor yeah no that's weird it was really really weird

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57:14Claudia Oshry:Thank you, Slash Turt. yeah welcome our next story some tea was spilled i think it was last night on get real the um hulu show podcast podcast with um amanda hirsch so she had on sophia franklin and taylor strecker and sophia franklin shared an interesting anecdote did you see this i have no idea what you're talking about okay so amanda asked her so apparently sophia told this story that like her maid of honor posted her speech from Sophia's wedding.

57:45Jackie Oshry:Are you talking about the Alex Cooper comment? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I saw this clip on TikTok of Sophia sharing this on her podcast.

57:53Claudia Oshry:Okay. Her maid of honor posted her maid of honor speech at Sophia's wedding. And the maid of honor said she got like a notification that Alex Cooper commented. And then when she went to go see the comment, it wasn't there. So they were talking about it on the show last night. and Sophia suggested that actually Alex was probably trying to comment something like from her fake account and realized like it was her own account oh meanwhile Amanda was like maybe she wanted to leave a heart but why would she want to leave a heart and then delete the heart

58:23Jackie Oshry:oh my god okay so accusing someone of running a fake account is actually a huge allocation because like genuinely only crazy people do that so we have to like really think about the options here no not only that this at one point was a person who knew Alex Cooper very well like maybe they used to do this where they would like make accounts so like maybe she does something we don't know i think like how i would naively sort of explain this is that like i mean alex super is a high profile tiktoker and like a lot of videos go viral and like you leave comments i'm always like leaving comments on stuff like no one's no one sees me and i'm like lol this is so funny so maybe she thought it was like funny and sweet or whatever and then very quickly realized like who whose wedding she was making like it wasn't just like a random viral video okay is it is a

59:07Claudia Oshry:video viral the maid of honor speech that's a really good thought you think that's a good thought but I have to like know more and also who was the maid of honor is it someone who like Alex would know is Sophia's best friend right or sister

59:23Jackie Oshry:oh I see this clip um I also just like that Sophia Franklin's at a place where she feels comfortable like talking about this I think it's like years in the making yeah um and it's probably easier to like talk about your biggest op now that like so much of the internet feels that your side was like you know underrepresented and and your story never got told so it's easier when you feel like people have your back and you're not just like saying stuff because it used to be if she ever said anything about it she said something on the toast she was like about Alex Cooper she said that bitch owes me 30 million dollars like she said that and back then the sentiment was like very anti-Sophia so she would get like a lot of hate for that it must be a little bit more empowering now that you know people are going

1:00:02Claudia Oshry:to support you when you say it yeah so what's the deal with the video i can't find it the the maid

1:00:08Jackie Oshry:of honor video oh here as promised my speech from sofia franklin wedding jackie it has 10 likes okay and she said sofia franklin wedding she said sofia franklin she tagged at sofia franklin

1:00:20Claudia Oshry:at sofia f podcast okay so i think it's clear and who's the who's the girls whose speech it is her name is alex franco and she actually looks so familiar like in sofia's content yes that's who I think it's her cousin. She's been with Sophia since day one. Forever. Alex Cooper knows who that is. So I don't think it was like accidentally commenting on a viral video.

1:00:41Jackie Oshry:Okay. Also, I want to say something that TikTok does. I know what happened. Okay. It's actually so fucking annoying. I find myself always accidentally leaving emoji comments and reposting because I like to hold my finger down on the side of a video to play it in two times speed because I just don't have the bandwidth. with and these days if you put your thumb down in the wrong place like I'm gonna do it right now so Alex Franco if you get a notification it's me okay if you put your thumb down in the wrong place yeah it reposts and hearts it oh my god I just reposted and hearted it I need to unrepost but what about a comment okay so also if you put your thumb down near the comment it puts an emoji I just put a laughing emoji oh god I think that's what happened I'm deleting it

1:01:25Claudia Oshry:I agree with you. I think that's what happened. It's actually, I've been meaning to bring it up. Undo that feature. It's fucking annoying. Yeah, that's really crazy. That happens to me sometimes.

1:01:35Jackie Oshry:You need to hold your thumb down on the top right.

1:01:37Claudia Oshry:When I'm scrolling through Instagram stories, sometimes like if I press the wrong thing, it like wants to send a reaction emoji to someone. Most of the time I can stop it in time,

1:01:45Jackie Oshry:but like once in a while it just shoots off. So now the bottom right of the screen, if you put your thumb near the comment or the like button instead of like above it it will comment like or even repost i think that's what happened yeah for

1:01:57Claudia Oshry:sure mystery solved because it definitely wasn't a heart because she wouldn't have deleted that if she wrote it in the first place yeah and the fake account while compelling and i would like like for

1:02:10Jackie Oshry:that to be the case because that's more interesting than just like a simple you know social media mishap and also alex hooper's pregnant she's just laying around all day on tiktok yeah it's just

1:02:19Claudia Oshry:like watching things waiting my ex best friend's maid of honor speech i'm sad i would watch that

1:02:26Jackie Oshry:are they gonna mention me definitely the book comes out like kind of soon november month or two yeah it's not soon no it's not there's a lot to do before then she has to give

1:02:39Claudia Oshry:birth yeah but i think she's a few weeks like it's not any day she was i was watching her stories And she said a few more weeks.

1:02:49Jackie Oshry:Well, I was wondering if she was going to be at the wedding. I meant to bring that up when I recapped on Monday because this wedding that I went to on Sunday night, the bride famously worked with both Alex Earl and Alex Cooper and was kind of there for the whole drama. And I had a sneaking suspicion that perhaps Alex Cooper had a falling out with her when she wasn't at Alex Cooper's wedding, which was like small but like not tiny and they were really close. so I have had a feeling that they weren't like on good terms since then and they haven't worked together in a while she wasn't at the wedding of course being 30 I don't know how many weeks she is in her third trimester you're not flying across the country like no you're not however unless it's

1:03:25Claudia Oshry:like a sister's wedding you're not flying across the country however like if a close friend of yours get married and you really can't be there unfortunately like you do post like most beautiful

1:03:35Jackie Oshry:bride like wish I could have been there you know what I mean and also to let everyone else know

1:03:39Claudia Oshry:oh, hey, I was supposed to be in the music video. You know? Right. Because it was like very star-studded. And like, if you should have been there, that's exactly what you would do.

1:03:48Jackie Oshry:Trust and believe. If I couldn't have made that wedding, I would have been posting like, I can't believe I missed like the most amazing bride. Most beautiful bride. Just because like, obviously we care about the bride and the groom, but like it was also like a social thing.

1:03:58Claudia Oshry:And you needed to let everyone know that you were invited. Correct. So I think that's what would have happened. So I would agree that there's potentially. Bad blood. Bad blood.

1:04:08Jackie Oshry:Agreed.

1:04:08Claudia Oshry:Are you ready for our fifth and final story, Dancing with the Stars recap night? As predicted, the females were like the stars. Yeah, the females are more interesting. They're the stars. It was gorgeous. I enjoyed my night. But there was like a lot of bad dancing.

1:04:23Jackie Oshry:Oh, no, of course. But I found this episode much more interesting. And it really made me realize that like, because if you would have told me that I would have ended up voting for Tatiana and Giada, I would have been like, what? there are so many different ways to dazzle me and i feel like maybe at one point i used to like roll my eyes at the packages but i found myself like falling in love with people who i never even considered because of like what they showed me in their package and i actually feel like spoiler alert part of the reason why sarah j nader went home because she was not the worst answer by any means um she wasn't the best but she was at the bottom for sure but like she gave us nothing like no like real raw and like i felt that like giada was so emotional and like i could understand why she did this like at this point in her life because it is kind of random why would she i just feel like sarah jane like just kind of gave us like some like some stuff like she didn't

1:05:12Claudia Oshry:give us anything no it was like very surface and then i think she thought that by dancing like with a woman that would like differentiate her enough and keep her around um and even when she explained why she's like because i never saw that growing up like i i don't know it just it wasn't giving like it wasn't compelling yes exactly no the packages are everything to me yes and that's why this show is so interesting because it's like it's and some people it's annoying when people are like this isn't like pity with the stars like stop voting for annie richter like he's not the best dancer but it's like if it was always just the best dancer then like yes harry shum jr will win jenna duan will win then it's just dancing with the stars who have a background in dance and you can only win the emotional journey you can only win dancing with the stars if you are truly the best dancer who has a background in dance it's so much more than that it's it's multi-faceted you have to be on a journey you have to open up relate to the audience improve as well but it's

1:06:09Jackie Oshry:not just about technical dance I completely agree that's why I think it's important that they do a combination of the judges scores and the online I actually think the way they're running it is kind of amazing except for what happened to Whitney Levitt oh of course because they like the fandom gets crazy yeah and they really voted her off when she didn't deserve to go home let's go through the performances in the order in which they happen first up was tatiana who i

1:06:33Claudia Oshry:voted for 10 times i voted for her 10 times i actually stepped out of my usual like protest of the voting system to make sure that she got every vote because she was not going home last night on my watch she was not going to be the first person sent home she was not going home on her son's birthday in front of her kids on my watch and i felt oddly protective of her because

1:06:50Jackie Oshry:i just don't feel that she has like a crazy cult following um who's gonna like stand up and vote for her so when she said that like she felt nervous like the minute I fell in love with her she was like I don't know like I have my mom belly like I'm just getting in back into this for the first time I feel like my kids are grown enough where I can leave them for a period of time and I was like oh queen with a mom belly Tatiana Tatiana Tatiana Tatiana and her performance started out like pretty rough yeah she missed like a whole section that was also like hard but

1:07:16Claudia Oshry:then she really picked it up she like had fun she had energy and I was just like you're not going home tonight you cannot go home tonight I will sink into a depression agreed 100 % like I

1:07:26Jackie Oshry:felt protective of her I also think that Jan is like really coming into himself because we were very critical of him last season on his first season with Jen Affleck and it was fair that she was paired with a new um it wasn't fair that she was paired with a new pro being postpartum but I feel that he's like very much immersed in like the the Dancing with the Stars family now he choreographs a lot and I think he's doing a great job of watching a lot of interviews with them I I think they really, really like each other and they have a good friendship, which is always a good basis for like a good relationship.

1:07:53Claudia Oshry:Yeah, but it is crazy that the two eliminations were the two new pros. It just really goes to show you what a disadvantage you're at.

1:07:59Jackie Oshry:It's true, except that I feel I think there were a lot of legitimate reasons from like the dance community as to why like Adela failed Connor. I don't feel like Haley failed. I actually thought their dance was good. Ben was loving it. Skater boy, like the outfits. It's like, I actually think she choreographed a good dance, but Sarah's like lack of skill combined with like giving us nothing in a personal emotional sense. I blame more Sarah than I do Connor.

1:08:24Claudia Oshry:Yeah. I would say lack of skill, lack of.

1:08:27Jackie Oshry:Emotion.

1:08:28Claudia Oshry:Emotion and lack of fans. I don't think she has that many voting fans.

1:08:32Jackie Oshry:That's, that's the other thing. Cause people have criticized this season's casting for not having enough stars. And they point to Sarah Jane and Connor, even though I don't really feel like that's fair. Connor Fibula. No, Connor. Levitt. Levitt. Saying nepo husband, nepo husband. Like that doesn't make you a star. I feel that he actually has a lot of fans. I think that, yeah, an undiscussed element is Sarah J. Nader not being technically famous enough for the show. So she's just at a disadvantage. Yeah, I would agree with that. But I think Connor was famous enough.

1:09:03Claudia Oshry:I think there's a lot of like not super famous people on the cast. Variation. Like I could go through all this and tell, I didn't know who Tatiana Ali was like by her name. know who Ezra was I didn't know who Ezra was I didn't really watch the women Olympics so I didn't know Amber Glenn but people do I know Fresh Prince but like I wouldn't have she's not super well known and I wouldn't have thought that she would be my number one yeah like there's a bunch of people on the male side who I barely know like I think it's a lot of like semi-stars so I don't think that's fair to like say about the two of them yeah you know um next we have Olympian Amber Glenn with Pasha Pashkov.

1:09:38Claudia Oshry:She's a figure skater so of course she was at an advantage and they did a great performance.

1:09:44Jackie Oshry:Yeah, they did. I again, like I didn't feel a lot because I think her package wasn't like terribly inspiring or like it kind of gave me nothing to connect with her on but she was dancing good and that's important.

1:09:56Claudia Oshry:Yeah, yeah. She did good. I had no strong feelings one way or the other. Right, exactly. Next we had Sierra Miller with Brandon Armstrong.

1:10:05Jackie Oshry:Sierra really surprised me. Yeah. um, I feel like, and I actually think they're doing this this season, which I appreciate is that they're not judging everyone equally and they shouldn't be because if you are young and fit and able bodied, that is very different than someone who's, you know, like Guillermo, who admittedly like is here to lose weight. Like they're just, so I feel like based on her. Criteria. She underperformed. Yeah. Now, was she the worst dancer? No, but based on the fact that she's like a person who is young, who was fit um i was surprised at how stiff she was now i think people underestimate how scary it is to actually do the dance you could actually slay in the rehearsal room and go and do the worst job ever especially the first time your nerves are showing you're just especially the first time so i give her grace but i do feel like the judges and also just like my thoughts on her in general are a little bit harder harsher because she is this like you know she worked probably works out before this a couple times a week like a lot of people have to immerse themselves in just being active every single day like it's a huge change for them so I feel like she gets judged

1:11:12Claudia Oshry:on a curve almost because she is same with Maura yeah no but like given her it was like not as good

1:11:21Jackie Oshry:as I thought it was gonna be agreed and I think her package maybe it was important because this is ABC I don't think there's like a huge history of people from Bravo being on this show they might not know like the whole Wes Wilson so it was like a little repetitive to me yeah it was crazy that

1:11:36Claudia Oshry:we went there they're like talking about Amanda Petula and dancing that Amanda on Dancing with the Stars but like yeah that is like a big part of her year gonna be a big part of her journey she's still clearly very like emotional about it which is surprising yeah I also think maybe like

1:11:50Jackie Oshry:she leaned in a little bit to being emotional just because like you want a sort of connection point with people and people can relate to that I just feel like I've been on this journey for so long and like she's so much better off without these two losers their lives are like literally effectively over publicly you're a queen you're on love so I'm like I don't see her as a victim I don't yeah um but I think they needed to sort of tell that story for people to get to know her um which I understood but to me just felt repetitive and kind of outdated I'm like but

1:12:16Claudia Oshry:she's like hosting a love island now yeah no it's like sort of the best thing that could have happened to her Ariana Maddox and like you get to quit this terrible guy just like Ariana and Tom and you see who your friend really is. But it's been really hard for her. And so that was like surprising. And I think Dancing with the Stars means a lot to her. She had put out a statement before and she has said like she hasn't really like talked about it and like shared how she's feeling and like through this journey she will.

1:12:41Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I think she has a lot of potential. I loved what she was wearing. I think she'll get better. And you have to give so much grace on night one. I imagine it's so scary.

1:12:51Claudia Oshry:As long as you don't get eliminated. it's good to like start from a place where it can only go up and because we want and that's why

1:12:57Jackie Oshry:people feel it's really unfair that they did eliminations week one because it's such like a baptism by fire um but I kind of like it like let's get started I I yeah I agree I'm two minds

1:13:07Claudia Oshry:but we could have just eliminated four people next week and like then everyone gets to dance twice but I guess not yeah I guess not next we have Giada De Laurentiis and Alan Burstyn

1:13:16Jackie Oshry:again not someone I was even I actually texted you when we started watching and I was like I my predictions are that I think maybe Jada could go home because I can't see her doing so well and I don't really think she has like a horde of online people texting to vote 10 times but let me tell you she won me the fuck over with her package like and not even so much her package her uh Julianne Hough interview where she was just so overcome with pride she reminded me of Elaine Hendricks last season just being like an older woman being like I did it like just that

1:13:41Claudia Oshry:sense of accomplishment and that's who Alan had last season too so he's yeah the right guy she did good yeah she was cracking me up like with the leg and the whisking like it was funny yeah and Elaine did amazing too and I thought her her dance like looked really good a lot of the dances I don't it scores not scores like some of them just looked really bad like visually they were just like it was a little bit painful that's why even at the end I know Derek Hough is like a crazy person and you were probably dying from his like big I was dying at his solo performance solo performance but it was nice to see like what ballroom looks like.

1:14:14Claudia Oshry:Oh, of course. Because we watched a lot of bad dancing the last two days.

1:14:18Jackie Oshry:Yes. I think that the women performed worse than the men, but I also, like I said yesterday, I think it's easier for a man to get away with looking fine.

1:14:26Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Because like you just have girls dancing around them. So shout out to Derek Huff, like for reminding us like what this could be.

1:14:33Jackie Oshry:I also think last night I really was feeling like how important your partner is because I think that Alan is a great partner.

1:14:39Claudia Oshry:yeah no he really made her and obviously mark i'm also gonna skip to i'm just gonna skip to more and mark to talk about the importance of partnership because like maura did amazing um i think she surprised everyone i don't know why we all assumed she'd be like an awkward dancer because she said herself like she's not very physical she said like i can't she's listening

1:14:57Jackie Oshry:to music and she's like i can't find the beat and that's what we're always saying like if you have

1:15:00Claudia Oshry:no rhythm you are at such a disadvantage i thought that was giada i think that was maura

1:15:08Jackie Oshry:no I didn't think you know I texted you I was like oh no she can't find the beat hold on let me find it because I think that Mark Ballas gets a lot of shit for like having easy partners like obviously Whitney and so Charlie D 'Amelio yeah I think he probably has had a lot of easy partners and I think people assumed Maura who's again like a Sierra Miller young fit I think people thought like he got a layup but watching her I was like oh she stinks like she's gonna be so bad and I think that her performance which was brilliant was a testament

1:15:39Claudia Oshry:to to her partner I think it was really a mix of both I think she's a much better dancer than anyone would have thought but I also think it was Giada she said she has no rhythm okay so I think Maura just like naturally is a better dancer than people thought and also Mark choreographed her in a way that enhanced all of her positives and like just Jackie she had a better score than jenna juan she deserved it she was amazing and also like jenna juan yeah if we're graded on a curve like you're you should be getting tens like because you're a professional dancer graded on a curve yeah i just want to say you're a professional dancer but like more i mean maybe she's just like the type who wants people to underestimate her but like we even saw her on traders like she couldn't even like run like she was saying i know her back uncoordinated she's not very physical she seems uncoordinated that she would be like sort of like awkward yeah like kind of what we thought

1:16:27Jackie Oshry:Alex Earl was going to be yes and then she wasn't and then she wasn't and Maura wasn't but also

1:16:35Claudia Oshry:Mark made it the best it could have possibly been so like yes your part like if Mark had

1:16:40Jackie Oshry:been with Sarah Jane Nader she would not have gone home last night 1000 percent yeah no Maura was so surprising to me she was so elegant and a lot of the people and I think this comes over time their faces are like so focused they look like they're pooping like she was smiling and like really she aced it yeah then julia styles with ezra sosa oh i just about died at andy cohen's call out did you see andy's response no so it's funny because i was wondering if he was gonna respond watch happen's lives almost like never filmed live these days but it was last night and so he made himself the jackhole and he apologized and he says i'm no one to talk about dancing and And they played this hilarious video that somebody had taken like a couple of years ago of Andy dancing at a Grateful Dead concert.

1:17:27Jackie Oshry:And like legitimately, you've never seen somebody dancing worse in your whole life. It was hysterical. It was very self-deprecating. He apologized. He was like, I'm an idiot. It was honestly an amazing way to handle it because he made me laugh. And I was like, you know what? Whatever. But it's funny what sticks with you. It is funny.

1:17:42Claudia Oshry:She did great. She will really be like one to watch because she has a good story. She's another one like Giada who's like, this isn't super easy for her right now. um but she's working hard she did great and she also has a great partner yeah yeah very good you

1:17:58Jackie Oshry:could tell when like the partner's like excited about who they got yeah and i think like ezra's

1:18:03Claudia Oshry:like in heaven yeah no that's really fun for them yeah and then sarah j nader with hailey bills

1:18:08Jackie Oshry:dancing to skater boy our same-sex queens yeah i felt that during the final three like elimination like it wasn't even a question that sarah j nader was going home whereas like with connor levitt i I forget who else was in the, it was Connor W. And someone else. I was like, I feel like maybe it could be one of the other. With Sarah Jane, I was like, it's not going to be Tatiana. And it wasn't going to be, who was the other one? Gianna.

1:18:35Claudia Oshry:Oh, yeah. Yeah, I agree. It was really between Sarah Jane and Tatiana for going home last night.

1:18:42Jackie Oshry:Yes, and I think it was clear after they danced that it was going to be Sarah. Because I just felt nothing. Yeah. Oh, we didn't talk about Jenna Dewan. She was the final performance. Jenna Dewan with Val. I feel exactly about her how I felt about Harry Shum Jr. I was bored. Like, it was good, obviously. Like, technically, it was probably the strongest dance. But I was just bored by the whole thing.

1:19:03Claudia Oshry:Yeah, it wasn't, like, excellent. It looked like the troupe. Like, you know? The troupe. They're so cute. We got, like, a lot of extra dance content last night, which was good. Like, all the stars dancing. All the pros dancing. Derek. were you okay I meant to check in no no why do like Julianne and Derek get their own like solo

1:19:24Jackie Oshry:performances because they're like the king and queen of dancing with the stars yeah but I also

1:19:27Claudia Oshry:feel like throughout the season other people will get well also the pros are working with their they're busy the pros are busy and then no Carrie Ann is not going to do a solo performance and neither is Bruno Bruno yeah I don't know I just but I feel like if somebody wants a solo performance they could have one but I think it's really only Julianne and Derek raising their hands I think as

1:19:47Jackie Oshry:people get eliminated um and the pros free up then we'll get some other solo performances but like it was just giving like their sweet 16 you know yeah they did a performance they're amazing dancers of course so I was just cracking up like Rosa it was I mean it was obviously no Paris

1:20:04Claudia Oshry:Baguette but it was something that's so funny I would say Derek's performance made a bigger impression on me than Paris Baguette but I know oh no for you no no no I'm I am the woman I am today because of what I saw and I think like the best call ever made was that Derek Hough is to Dancing with the Stars what Robert Herjivik is to Shark Tank for you did you you made that call

1:20:30Jackie Oshry:last season okay that's interesting and explain yourself they're just like the same energy of

1:20:36Claudia Oshry:like they're totally hey look at me they're totally nice guys who like are no they're not and you just hate both of them you think like they're both hacks they're both ugly stupid and

1:20:45Jackie Oshry:annoying i know by the way i just want to say i i do think robert herjavek is a hack i think he was like the least eligible shark like he was lucky to be there yeah but i think he gives bad business advice like actually i don't think derrick huck is a hack huff is a hack like i think he's like the most successful like talented performer um i have a deep-rooted issue like with him and his sisters like vibes um just like i can't explain it but it's a good comparison but it's not a perfect one nothing is perfect no no except the toast which is now on day four of doing 90 minute episodes like we just sort of can't stop gabbing we can't but i do have to call it that's okay we're done we're done you're done thank you guys so much for listening to the toast on my morning show we deliver the fast stories you need to know everybody the friday on youtube so if you're watching us on youtube please don't forget to subscribe give us a thumbs up or else available podcast and podcasting fans that's Spotify, Apple podcast and YouTube wherever you listen to podcasts find us the Toastly Be Fancy are a beautiful setting a weekly town to be our because of an amazing day and we'll see you tomorrow

1:21:40Claudia Oshry:love ya bye