Dishin' With Lish with Ben Soffer: Monday, March 23rd, 2026

18:28Claudia Oshry:Why? Because Justin Timberlake shouldn't be driving drunk in the Hamptons. He has so much money. No, and like, why did they carpool there? They're all staying together. They took two cars there, even though they wanted to drink. Yeah, no. He needs to have better friends. So that's just stupid. Agreed. Nobody of means should ever be driving drunk. You should only, nobody should ever drive drunk. Yeah. In a God forbid situation, the only person who should ever be driving drunk is somebody who has no way home. They're stranded. You know, Justin Timberlake could never be stranded. Right. Get a helicopter.

18:57Get a driver. Get a motorcade. Call the police. Get a room at the hotel. The police will bring you home.

19:01Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Like you're, right? No, no, no. There's really no excuse. There's no excuse. And like poor planning. Like you went to, why would you take two cars to go out for drinks? Like take one car. One person is designated driver. 100%. Not everybody kind of a friend like me. No. Who's just always designated driver. Who's always DDing. Yeah. No, it's very sweet. And you become a better driver. I kind of like slay these streets. You know what I noticed about myself recently? I kind of speed. The Tesla is very easy to speed. It is. The Tesla is very easy to speed. And I told the story where I took your Tesla to Josh and I did a speed engagement in Orlando.

19:39And I couldn't go below 120. Really? Yeah, because it's a go-kart. Like once you're on the open highway and you're trying to go 200 miles, it's a fucking go-kart. Yeah. And you run out of gas like that. Yeah. The second you start to speed, I looked it up afterwards. I'm like, these Teslas fucking suck. And they were saying once you go over 90, your battery just drops. Oh, really? Well, I've never gone 90. I just mean like, you know, I'm always going over. You're going 50 in a 30. Is that the Sam Huntsman? Not in a 30. Oh, going 50 in a 30. 15? No, drive slow. We want to drive slow, so 15 in a 30.

20:17By the way, that's much more dangerous. Nobody talks about that. Driving 15 in a 30 is more dangerous than driving 50 in a 30.

20:24Claudia Oshry:Yeah. If you are that person just on the highway driving slow, I'm going to crash into you. No, I used to, like, when I was earlier in my driving, like, always going to the right lane. Like, always going to be driving, like, slow. Like, I'm in no rush. But now I'm, like, comfortable. So I just, like, you know, I'm moving groove. And you got places to fucking be. Like, I don't understand. Like, I don't understand people who are just like, oh, yeah, I don't care how long it takes me. Do you not have a job? Do you not have a life? Do you not have anybody waiting on you? No, but I just, I always try and like leave myself enough time.

20:54Claudia Oshry:You know, that's the other thing. Yeah, but then you can get more time. No, but you shouldn't always be in a rush. I also can't live like that, like always being in a rush. So you're not in a rush, but you can gain time back. Yeah, I'm all about gaining time back. So you leave early, okay? You left yourself an hour and a half to get to Disney on ice, even though you only needed 40 minutes, right? you could have gotten there in 30 and then you have 10 extra minutes just enjoy your life i'm so sick of driving i don't want to drive anymore i want to get there well i just started driving so like i'm okay and i also the tesla is not good for like long range driving like orlando you have to charge along the way but for like daily driving in the suburbs it's amazing for daily and where you like just charge every night you don't even have to charge every night it's great for that it's wonderful for daily driving yeah but i'm glad you agree like it's easy to really go fast Oh, it's a go-kart.

21:43Claudia Oshry:But when I drive other cars, I'm very aware of my speed. Not a go-kart. A golf cart. Same thing. But yeah, it is a golf cart because it's electric. So easy. Yeah. But golf carts pretty much have like a 25 miles per hour cap. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Okay, go-kart. I go back to go-kart. Yeah. Go-kart. Yeah. So I guess we'll get the harder, the harsh arse ripping from Claudia tomorrow. But today, I don't know, Justin Timmerlake, I actually think the video sort of just makes the whole thing seemed like not as big of a deal. I thought it was going to be like this crazy video and he's so drunk. He's just like, I guess we don't even know how drunk he is.

22:18Claudia Oshry:I do sort of wish he took the breathalyzer test because maybe he wasn't that drunk, but I feel like maybe he declined it because he was that drunk. He needs a better publicist if they didn't want that video released. No, but it's... That video made everything so much better for me. Yeah, yeah. Like if I'm his publicist, I'm ecstatic to release that video. Did you see when he made the joke about the race that they put him down his white? I did, I did. Like that's funny. The whole thing. It's just like you're relatable. You're personable. I feel bad for you. Yeah. That's a publicist's dream versus saying I don't want to release the video.

22:49We're suing to not have it. I thought he was going to do something crazy. I thought he was running naked in the streets.

22:55Claudia Oshry:And like they didn't want it out there like his naked body. Exactly. Crazy. Yeah. While screaming Justin Timberlake bye bye bye. Like no. No. No. Do you hear that? Are you hungry? My stomach. I have a macro bar. I guess I am hungry, but I'm trying not to eat so early. I'm up eight pounds. Since? In seven days. What? Yeah. What'd you do wrong? I'm switching from Zetbound back to Ozempic. You and Claudia. I didn't love, no. And your GLP wars. By the way, there were some real mental side effects with Zetbound. I didn't like the way that it made me feel. How was it making you feel? Like sad. Isn't that weird?

23:36Oh my God, that's sad because you're not a Zetbound. I know, and I went off, and I'm like, oh, my God, I feel so much better. And now I'm back in the bubble. That's really sad, the idea of you being sad. I know. So, like, I'm waiting on my fucking Ozempic. If these people would ever send it to me, I was about to call them whores. I guess I called them whores. If these people would ever send me it, I could go back on it. It sounds like you're going through withdrawal rage. Well, my stomach, you heard that, right? Yeah. My stomach's like, I'm me hungry. Would you rather be – Feed me, fat boy. Feed me.

24:11He's not like Harry when he's hungry. He's like, Mr. Tummy is very hungry. I'm with Harry.

24:20Would you rather, it begs the question, would you rather be fat and happy or skinny and sad? I'd rather be skinny and happy. No, that's an option with Ozempic. But, okay. But I asked you a question. I would 100 % rather be fat and happy. Okay. If you don't have your brain, you're fucked.

24:38Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Seriously. Yeah. If you don't have your positive outlook on light, walk outside, see the sun shining, and know it's going to be a great day, bless God, bless my family, then I don't want any of it. No, that's the right answer. I was hoping that that's what you would say. Yeah. No, you can't like skinny and unhappy. Yeah. Who wants that? So you're going back on Ozempic. Back on the big O. While we wait for the horse to send it to you, you've gained eight pounds. Yeah, I'm doing my best. Like yesterday, I had to really restrain myself from eating the nachos at Disney on Ice. I was like, no nachos for me.

25:10And maybe I had a better eating day. Nacho nachos. No, but like I got home. My day's done eating. I go into the fridge. I eat a pint of Halo Top. I know it's only 400 calories, but like why did I do that? I don't need this to turn into overeaters anonymous. What's our next story? Our next story is only our second story. Bad, Ben. Mr. Tummy is very high.

25:38It's a good invention. You reach into the fridge and there's like a automatic hand that just hits you bad. Oh my gosh. Okay, our next story, an update in literally the biggest news that's ever happened. Taylor Frankie Paul. By the way, she's a sick fucking name. I know we talk about that. It is pretty iconic and the fact that we all

25:59Claudia Oshry:take the time to say all three names. We have an abbreviated... She's not even Taylor. She's not Taylor Paul. She's Taylor Frankie Paul. It's a sick name. It's pretty iconic. But The Bachelorette, I mean, there's just so much news since this weekend. Where do I begin? The premiere was replaced with American Idol rerun. It was supposed to premiere last night. Instead, American Idol ran a rerun. She has temporarily lost custody of her two-year-old ever amid the ongoing domestic assault investigation. She had responded to a fan advising her to stay off social media. The men of her season are being considered for Bachelor in Paradise.

26:34Claudia Oshry:Where do you want to start? Why aren't they releasing this episode? Or why aren't they releasing the season? Because of the video? Yeah, but why can't I see the season? Oh, because they don't want to platform. They already did. They knew it. Okay, but actually, this is interesting. They knew, everybody knew that that video existed. Everybody knew that there was domestic violence. And everybody knew that she threw barstools because now if you watch the first season, like in the first early episodes, the girls are talking about how they're like Taylor's a liability for mom talk. Like brands might not want to work with them.

27:08Claudia Oshry:They think we're all throwing barstools. So like they all knew what had happened. I think anyone closer was not a secret in the police investigation. She has now two clips have resurfaced of her talking about it on podcasts, like sharing the story. She was on two different podcasts where she tells the story of what happened. Yeah. It's what we see in the video. So, of course, seeing it in a video is much more upsetting than just hearing her recount it. Yeah. Like hearing the crying in the daughter. And it's really unforgivable. But a couple things. So this video came out. They pulled the season because they're not going to be like associated with a person like this, even though they cast her knowing full well.

27:44Knowing that they were associating themselves with a person like this that went completely against everything that the franchise should stand for.

27:51Claudia Oshry:Right. You are literally platforming a woman with a history of exes. She's currently with an ex in a toxic relationship. Multiple children, multiple guys. Like, how are you the bachelorette? Yeah. Well, no, but then she was, and, like, everyone was really here. Most people were really here for it. Like, you know, that it's a new leaf, and it'll be very exciting, and she's single. They were just excited that Hulu's owned by ABC and that they could promote it in the show. Yeah. No, we were excited. I was excited about it. Yeah, because we're watching Mormon Wives, and they're juicing us up. They're, like, showing us.

28:25It was the greatest cross promo ever. Like, they're getting really good at this. They did the same thing with Traders, where we had the Olympics, which are shown on NBC, and we have these two-figure skaters that are on Traders, and they're cross-promoting each other. I want to watch the Olympics because I want to watch these people. You're watching the Olympics. You're going to watch Traders. It's the same thing with Mormon Wives.

28:46Claudia Oshry:So what it seems like, though, is last week, filming was paused for Secret Lives of Mormon Wives because of domestic situations between Taylor and Dakota. Yeah. And all of the women refused to film with her and film, period. Apparently, early in March, they had a call with Hulu flagging that there's really bad behavior going on between Taylor and Dakota, and it's a liability, and they don't want to be a part of it, and they don't want to film. So they all decided to take a break from filming. When was this? Last week. Last week was the break. And then two, three weeks ago was that call. It was like a Zoom call.

29:23Claudia Oshry:Some of the information from the call has come out. And pretty much the head of Hulu was like, we don't care. They're like, we don't want to know. And there were insinuations that it was about domestic abuse and the child. So they pause filming. And then a couple of days later, this video comes out, this old video. however I'm starting to believe that more stuff is going to come out and that's why they pulled the season more recent stuff is going to come out of things that have been going on in the last few months one of the husbands like his dms he was responding to a fan of like why aren't you supporting taylor your wives wouldn't have careers if it wasn't for her like everyone supported to me like not everyone but you know why aren't you supporting her and he was pretty much like we just found out a bunch of stuff this was jace who said this which I have to talk about that too Do you know what happened with him?

30:15Claudia Oshry:Yes, I do. I can't. He got astray from you. I got astray. I'm like, it's a battle that I don't want to be in. I think you started it. I'm just responding to it. This guy's just in the corner doing nothing. And you just wielded your bow and arrow and just shot him right in the head. He's in my crosshairs. He's just so sad.

30:45Claudia Oshry:so he responded to this fam being like we just found out so much more it's unforgivable like there's more like basically that there's more stuff child abuse allegations domestic domestic violence and now they're at a point of no return so it's not just about the 2023 video and I don't think that's why, even though how could ABC have seriously aired that season yesterday when that video just came out and that video was the most upsetting thing that most people have ever seen on the internet. It's terrible, but even watching Mormon Wives, I was thinking to myself, when they're about to go to the Bachelorette and she just doesn't give a fuck where her kids are, she's just alone in her room as her mom and children leave, get on a plane without her, the whole thing is just so weird and you're watching this, It's like, what kind of mother are you?

31:36Yeah. And like, how are you putting, you're putting, I don't know what you're putting first. Is it the show? Is it, that's also, I mean, in general, one of the problems that I have with this show is just the amount of putting the show before, it seems like putting the show before your family.

31:52Claudia Oshry:Yeah. But that's besides the point. Yeah. She just like, she's always been like a loose cannon. And so Disney hired or ABC hired a loose cannon to be the Bachelorette because they need views. They need rating. They needed a spike. They knew exactly what they were doing. Yeah, they were going to choose this like crazy toxic person, hopefully redeem her, give her like a beautiful fairy tale ending, which I think could have been possible. But after the season of Mormon Lives that we just watched, she literally slept with him before leaving for the Bachelorette. You don't go on the Bachelorette to heal and get over someone.

32:28Claudia Oshry:You go when you are healed and over someone and ready for the next thing. So like, even if this video hadn't come out this week, it was going to be really hard to swallow this season of The Bachelorette, like knowing that she's literally on the phone with Dakota as she gets out of the limo to start the season. Like that's not what The Bachelorette is really about. Like there is still sort of like this mystique that it's a person looking for a real long lasting relationship with someone who is ready for that. So before the video, the season was kind of doomed, but they were going to get the ratings that they wanted and the ad dollars and all of that.

32:58Claudia Oshry:So I'm sure that's really all that mattered to them. But now they have none of that. There are millions in the hole, the tens of millions that they spent on the season. Cast members from her show are, like, talking about suing ABC, you know, these desperate guys who, like, thought they were about to have their big shot. Oh, yeah, also that. Like, you're suing because you couldn't find love? No, they're suing. No, I know. Yeah. Like, that's not the point of the show. Or at least pretend, like, at least let us think that that's the point of the show. Otherwise, change the narrative of the show. Yeah.

33:26The show is not supposed to be a Too Hot to Handle or the show is not supposed to be a Love Island. It's supposed to be there's an eligible bachelor or bachelorette and we're trying to help them find their suitor. But like if the goal is just like the guys to get Instagram followers and the show to get ratings because they put like a crazy person on it. Like just change the show.

33:48Claudia Oshry:Well, I think that those are two goals. And then another goal is to have, find a relationship that's lasting because I think the more time that goes on and the more failed bachelor relationships that come out of it, the more it chips away at like the concept for the show. But like anytime there is a successful relationship, I think that gives them like years more of legs of like this really works. And I think there's been a couple recent, like Joey is still with his winner. Who else? Who's Joey? I didn't watch his season, but he's one of like the more recent people. I don't know who else is still with their winner from like recent memory.

34:23Sure.

34:24Claudia Oshry:Then of course we know the OGs. The OGs. The OGs. The tried and trues. Yeah, when the show should have stopped. It's like Shaquille O 'Neal. I love bringing this up. It's like Shaquille O 'Neal on the Phoenix Suns. Did you know he played for the Phoenix Suns? No. Did you know he played for the Boston Celtics? No. You know Shaquille O 'Neal on the Lakers and on the Heat. That's it. Sure. And you're supposed to stop playing eventually. Oh, you're in your prime. You're in your prime. No, you're killing it. They can't. First of all, players like can't go out in their prime. I don't know why. Like Tom Brady.

34:56Sure.

34:57Claudia Oshry:But I do feel like for television shows, it's like, why would we go out in our prime? Even if next season we make less money, we still made money. Like, let's keep going until there's no more money to be made. Or we can make a new, better show and give it legs. Yeah. No, I think the premise is still decent. I think they were onto something with the idea of casting Taylor Frankie Paul, but it was a miss because she's not ready and she's not now appropriate to be. And I guess then she wasn't either because all this information was out there. And we did all know that there was like a domestic violence incident, but like we didn't know the details.

35:31Claudia Oshry:So it was easier to sort of brush it to the side. But now that we know the details, we cannot. Yeah, we cannot. We can't watch it. We can't. They can't air it. We cannot. We like it's over. Do we think he is? And given the idea that like there's more going on right now and that she saw and it has to do with ever because when the pause happened last week the rumors were that there was like child abuse involving ever the two-year-old but the video that we saw was not him that was her other that was a different child of hers so like there still could be more current allegations of child abuse it's awful it's really really awful and if that's true i mean she looked very fucked up in that video so oh yes she was she like so Is she just like, I won't insinuate, but that's terrible.

36:17Claudia Oshry:Yeah. That's terrible. He is always just like portrayed as like a cheating scumbag. But like he's also complicit clearly with the way that she treats her children, right? If he's in the same room as her while she's doing things like that or was that or is he like I'm trying to figure out is he just like a bad guy that cheats you know what and thinks it's like funny he wears a red flag hat he's just like a douche or is he like a like a bad bad guy so it's really hard to know because like my assumption is that he's like a really bad guy who's like driven this woman really crazy and like um you know they're both abusive but the point has been made that like we've not seen like actual abusive behavior from him like for what he says on the show it's like we can sort of read between the lines and i feel like that's what we're doing but like what if we're just totally off like on the show he says i want taylor all he that's what i'm saying he was like cheating yeah and he definitely has like a history of substance abuse so who knows what was happening before he was clean sure but like he's just a lying cheater he's just a lying cheater um is it more than that which is bad that's not being complicit with child abuse we've heard mirror for her.

37:35So then did he leak this video?

37:37Claudia Oshry:So that's also conflicting. I assume that he leaked it to TMZ or at least like flagged that it exists. And then they filed like, uh, in the freedom of information act, cause it's in the file of their court documents. So that's public information, like for them to have gotten the video. But then I've also seen that that case is sealed because it has to deal with a minor. So they couldn't have gotten that video from the court and that someone had to give it to them. So I've literally seen everyone argue everything different. Everyone has a different legal opinion on the matter. So I don't know what's right.

38:05Fascinating.

38:05Claudia Oshry:Mm-hmm. Fascinating. I would love to know how they got that video. Even if they did petition for it, who, if anyone, told them that it's there. Yeah. Were reminded them. Because anyone would, like, if you really dug deep into the police report, like, you would know that there was a video. But why did they have the idea to do that now? Interesting. I don't know. But I do need to address my beef with the Matthews family. Because it's, like, gaining traction. As you know, Jace was my weenie of the week because I felt like I feel like he's like really like critical of his wife at a very sensitive time in her life.

38:40Claudia Oshry:So I made him my weenie of the week because they literally got separated. She's a two month old and three other children and she's going to live on her own. Like what? Yeah. And then we posted the clip of the weenie of the week and Michaela commented, I hate this. Now, I just want to say I stand by what I said. Like I did not enjoy watching that. And I think he's way like to like I don't know their marriage. but just from what I'm seeing, like the two, the woman moving out of the house with the two month old, like I'm, I don't like that. However, I don't know how this like split my mind. We should not have clipped that for Weenie of the Week because like if you don't know this show and you don't know like what Weenie of the Week is, we're just like having fun and we're recapping shows and it's like really not that deep.

39:20Like if you, but if you just saw that clip, like you, it just comes off like just so much harsher than it does on this show.

39:26Claudia Oshry:And like, I forgot that I don't like to do that. if you listen to the whole hour plus long episode and you listen to our recaps all week like it lands so much softer for him to be my weenie of the week it's just like sort of a running joke considering he's obviously not the villain in the show there are so many worse people but for me to pick out the weenie in the corner who I don't think is being supportive enough of his wife like it's just funny but when you clip it like just for social media and that's that's my bad um it seems really harsh so I can apologize for that though I stand by what I said like what is your wife doing moving out of the house with a two-month-old.

40:00Yeah. I've been We Need the Week like a hundred times. Yeah. I don't even know what I ever did for it. Like We Need the Week is like a fun soft thing. It is, but if you don't follow

40:08Claudia Oshry:the show and you think we're just like crowning people weenie, like you don't realize that it's like really not that serious and I think taken out of context it comes off a lot harsher and usually we don't clip it. So I don't know. We were just laughing so hard. We were like clip, but I didn't realize like what that would look like to someone who's not a toaster. Yeah. Well. Whatever. Yeah, but it's just like funny that it's made news. I was on my, just my own Instagram scrolling. No, it's funny. I saw it. It's a huge clip. That's why like you're saying like we shouldn't have clipped it. I'm like, it kind of should have.

40:39No, but like - Like the clip crushed. Cause it's funny. I was just scrolling my Instagram. Imagine this. And I see like from a reality TV recap account - Yeah, I saw the same post. Like a screenshot of our clip with Michaela's comment on it. I didn't know that she had commented on our post and I was like, is that me? I was in shock. I literally said it to my group chat. I'm like, this is my worst nightmare. This is my worst nightmare. Like it could stop me from doing the job. Like I hate when I talk

41:08Claudia Oshry:about anyone good or bad, obviously bad is worse and they see it. Yeah. What, what are you doing here? I know. What are you doing here? I know. But it's my fault for putting that out into the Instagram. You also know that like the Mormon wives are like, they're flooded with toasters. so like whatever you say about them it's probably going to make it to them yeah yeah I don't know I really wasn't thinking that many steps ahead and that's on me sorry to the Matthews about that are you ready for our next story we are some more drama yeah what do we got Chapel Roan she bores me we can talk about it though we have to talk about it again another one I wish not that I'm are we going to talk about JFK Jr no it's the worst show I don't watch it because it's not good what it was good It got bad Okay I don't really Yeah it's not I don't miss it I got like out of Hulu and then went back And I just like don't miss it It was a great show That literally like I think the writers Like just left I scrolled on my phone for 20 minutes I came back We're in the same scene there still Okay we don't have to talk about it but like If you watch that show it's absolute dreck And Chapel Roan is a disgusting human Yeah so Chapel Roan is speaking out Following an alleged incident with the soccer players young daughter this story is very layered so jorginho is a soccer player who um was in where was this in um sao paulo they were in a hotel in sao paulo where chap is performing and jorginho is a very big soccer player and he was with his wife who has shares a child with jude law coincidentally his wife's name is katherine harding and the daughter is an 11 year old named ada law they were at the hotel breakfast where they saw chapel roan walk by and so the daughter who's a big fan of chapel went to chapel's table just walked past to like confirm it was her and then went back to her table like oh my god freaking out you know how that is then a security guard comes over to jorge guinho's table and like berates the young daughter for quote harassing chapel like that that's not what you should do but mind you the girl did not ask for a photo did not say anything just like walked past saw her favorite singer and like went back to her table giddy um jorge guinho posted to social media like lacing into her into chapel for treating her fans this way because the girl did nothing wrong she's an 11 year old she was excited like why send security on her to scare her she was crying and it was just a mess um everyone has since come down on chapel for you know being so nasty to her fans and the children and you should like these are the people who support you chapel made a video from her bed rolling around laughing saying that that was not her security guard who did that she had no idea that this happened she didn't like send anyone to say anything to the girl she didn't the girl didn't ask for anything from her she didn't even notice the girl and that was not her security guard who did that and now what I mean I've hated Chapel Road for quite some time yeah me as well because Pink Pony Club was a fucking banger I love that song okay like I was dancing to it I was like Pink Pony Club I'm gonna keep on dancing at the Pink Pony Club I was in on the Pink Pony Club and then all of a sudden out of nowhere she became just like crazy pro pally and i just like i was just like what are you where what is this what is happening here like like like how and ever since then i've just like not not been a fan of hers i'll still hear it it's like my same plight with kanye like kanye's on in the club i'm like oh man this is a bop yeah but no it's different because like kanye has so many years of songs that are like memories in your life yeah like decades worth of songs like at the same time that songs of hers became popular was the same time I didn't like her I've never really had one joyful moment with her got it where I was able to listen to her music without any I understand I understand that I understand that I had maybe like a month with Pink Pony Club that was awesome and whatever if you're not nice to your fans and multiple people are talking about it which means that she's not nice to her fans, then you don't deserve to be famous.

45:06It's not always the most pleasant encounter. Josh and I joke about this on Good Guys all the time that it especially happens to me. Somebody will approach me and say, oh my God, my wife's such a huge fan of your wife. I don't know who you are, but such a huge fan. Do you mind saying hi on behalf of your wife? Or they're always not pleasant encounters is what I'm trying to say. It doesn't mean that you're rude. like you're the only reason that you have the job that you have is because of the people that support you yeah including that 11 year old girl like you are like a gen z phenom which is even more of a problematic issue with her politics whatever but um but whatever but whatever it's

45:49Claudia Oshry:back to the matter at hand like if you've been following travel this is not surprising like she yells at every well the thing is like i feel like she has no plausible deniability here because like we just were reporting on her yelling at the fans and the photographers in paris she's every red carpet she goes on she's yelling at everyone for taking her picture even though she stepped on to a red carpet to get her picture taken like she's just angry towards anyone who like wants to engage with her in like a fan sort of way so like when we heard the story no one was like chapel would never do that we were like oh my gosh chapel so i don't know if i believe her but i don't know her well enough to know if like she seems like a crazy person um is she a liar i don't know is that whose security is that if not hers what is it breakfast security like yeah who's going up to her but is doesn't matter like there's enough people coming out saying that you're mean to your fans right so if it wasn't this exact pattern or it's like maybe she didn't send security on the little girl but like she knows like her security knows that like she doesn't want people around her coming up to her so like maybe they acted on chapel's wishes without her having to like send it on from a pie on this one yeah you know what i mean i do but like i don't believe the idea that that wasn't chapel security who is it yeah this idea in general that like of course celebrities deserve boundaries.

46:59I know you're not watching JFK Jr., which again, like you should watch it. Like it was a good show. It's gone. But now it's all like we just got to this episode where Princess Diana had died. Paparazzi was a main reason she died. Caroline Bissette is having a huge problem with the paparazzi. And I'm watching that and I'm thinking, you know, like it would be really nice if celebrities sort of had some space sometimes to just be regular human beings. I have a paparazzi problem. I don't like them. Nothing that she's complaining about has anything to do with an invasion of privacy. It's the opposite.

47:34You're putting yourself out there. You're going to the hottest restaurant

47:37Claudia Oshry:in Paris. You're going to things. You're going to Paris Fashion Week. Yeah. You're going to the... And you're upset that your fans are there. Yeah, and the photographers are there. You're on a red carpet and you don't like the way that they're shouting at you to get their photo. She's acting like she's in her home and they are coming to her door and berating her. Yeah. She's going to them. I don't feel sorry for you when you go to them. Yeah. If you don't want to be in the public eye, stay home. Yeah. Or don't go to Paris Fashion Week. Yeah. So this was not a good one for her. And she doesn't really have a great track record where we could, like, believe, give her the benefit of the doubt here that she had nothing to do with this.

48:13Claudia Oshry:Because, like, what? Yeah. And if she did have nothing to do with this, who was this person? Yeah. I don't know. The Pink Pony Club. Pink Pony Club, that's your one? It was a really good song. I think there was one. Whenever I hear one, then I'm like, oh, that's good. But then I hear it's trouble. I'm like, oh, I guess never mind. But there was one that I once heard. It was like super phenomenon. I thought that one sounded good. I don't know. I don't know. Are you ready for our next story that's brought to you by Gold Bond Plumping Collagen? Wow. Yeah. Nice. Let's talk about winter skin for a second.

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53:27Claudia Oshry:If you have an iPhone, head to ladder.fit slash toast and take a quick quiz to find your perfect Ladder plan. Use my link and get a free seven-day trial with no credit card and$10 off your first month if you join. That is Ladder. Thank you to our sponsors. Our next story is some exciting content comedy news. Okay. Kevin Hart is getting a live roast at Netflix with host Shane Gillis. I saw this. Oh, you did? I love it. Yeah. It's going to be great. I love a roast. Yeah. What do you think about a live roast? I think that— I think they've always been live. I was going to say, I thought that the roasts were live.

54:05Well, no. Didn't you go to one with Claudia? Oh, they weren't live. They weren't live. They weren't live. No. Yeah, we went to the roast of Rob Lowe, and it was like months before. Yeah. And it was horrible. Oh, my God. It was like so buzzy. Being there was so boring.

54:19Claudia Oshry:And no, when you went to the red carpet, the red carpet was buzzy. And then like the roast didn't come out for a while longer. So then you had like, it was bifurcated, the buzz. Yes. And I don't think that's a great idea. But when the original Comedy Central roasts would happen, were those live? I feel like I thought they were, but I don't know. Is this a Netflix thing? This one is Netflix. So I feel like Netflix took on the roast. They were not live. They're loving live things. But now they're live. I think live Comedy Central roasts were not live. Okay, not live. Okay, well, I'm excited. A live roast is very exciting.

54:51I'm excited for a live roast. And if it's anything like watching that man climb Kilimanjaro or wherever he climbed, like where I'm just like, oh my God, I can't believe this is live. Is he going to die? It's the same thing.

55:01Claudia Oshry:Anything can happen. I can't believe this is live. What the fuck are they going to say? Is he going to die? Is he going to die? I think. And I love Shane Gillis. He's so funny. He's so funny. And Kevin Hart is so funny. He is. And Kevin Hart, like, like him and The Rock have just like had this like public, hilarious, like roasting of each other. Like The Rock will be there. It'll be really fun. They're all going to make fun of his height. It'll be great. Like, yeah, I'm excited for it. The lineup of comedians who will roast him have not been announced, but I think it's safe to assume The Rock would be there.

55:31Claudia Oshry:For sure. I think there are some like classic roast people. I think now Nikki Glaser is a classic roast person. She is. She's amazing. Nikki Glaser, Jeff Ross. Yeah. The Roastmaster. Is he still Roastmaster? Well, it sounds like Shane Gillis is the Roastmaster. Oh, yeah. Shane Gillis is the Roastmaster. So I also wonder who will join that will be more surprising. Like remember when Martha Stewart did Justin Bieber. And like a Snoop Dogg. Like I love when they like throw random people in. That's what makes them so funny. So I feel like we'll get some like good randoms. Or like Kim Kardashian doing Tom Brady.

56:01Yeah

56:01Claudia Oshry:That didn't work out of course Funny though But good idea Good idea Good idea Yeah I'm excited for this When does it come out? This will be on May 10th Where? It's gonna be live from the Kia Forum in LA Damn On a Sunday night I'd love to have gone On May 10th Yeah No I'm just not going to LA Yeah If it was New York Even though you love LA I do love LA I don't want to go there though If I'm there I'm happy as a clam Yeah. If I'm transported there, the idea of going, the idea of coming back. That's how I feel too. It's nice there. I love it there. It's really nice. I think it's really great. I just don't want to go there.

56:41Yeah. But if I'm there.

56:42Claudia Oshry:Would you ever want to live there? Could you ever live there? I could live part-time anywhere, I think. Oh, you're a part-time guy. I feel very tethered to New York. Yeah. Very tethered. So it's just made you realize you love New York, but you enjoy other places. Yeah. I could go to LA for three months. Yeah. Could I go to L.A. for the rest of my life? No. No. Nor do I want to. No. Simply because I love New York, not because there's anything wrong with L.A. L.A. is lovely and fun and cool. Most of the United States is fun, lovely, and cool when you really go. Like people – I think I've spoken about this.

57:16Maybe not with you, but I went to Birmingham, Alabama probably like two years ago for Spritz. I was there for three days. This place fucking rocks. Yeah. And then I went to the beach. Do you know that Alabama had beaches? like literally the Gulf of Alabama. There's like that Floribama bar, which is the Florida, Alabama. Yeah. The beaches in Alabama are gorgeous. Yeah. I bring this up to say that the great United States is filled with many a great place to live. It really does. It is. And they're all very different looking, you know. All very different looking. You've got a lot. It's all about your preference.

57:48I'm a big weather guy. That's my only gripe with New York, that the weather is just a little bit too inconsistent. I'm loving. I mean, warm weather in Florida, warm weather in California. That's so funny. I like New York weather. Interesting. Okay. You prefer cold. I prefer the variety. Variety. Yeah. I think variety is overrated. The endless sunshine. You know, I'm starting to like. Imagine your ancestors hearing you complain about endless sunshine. No, I didn't complain. No, but I get it. And now that I'm starting to like just enjoy the endless sunshine, it's like maybe. What if it is just sunny all the time?

58:25It's sunny all the time, and then you get to go to snow when you want to. Yeah. It doesn't have to inconvenience you. Yeah. You get to go to, like, I can't wait. Like, New York Spring is the best. Yeah. New York Fall is also the best. Allergies.

58:37Claudia Oshry:Are you nervous about your allergies? I feel like I have been having a sneeze. I'm not sure if it's, like, the sickness that's going on or, like, my allergy starting. Last year, I went to— You take Flonase? I take Zyrtec. Yeah. I would highly recommend not taking Zyrtec. Oh, right. You want me to tell you why? That was, like, bad information. But I don't take it that much. And also— Remember you were commenting on brain fog? Mm-hmm. How you are looking for brain mouth, whatever, as a part of an ad? What causes brain fog? Documented. Zyrtec. It's like a lower dose of Benadryl. And when you take it, it's non-drowsy.

59:11But the drowsy piece, the little bit of drows, affects your brain. It gave me horrible brain fog. Also. Flownase. It's literally, you put it up your nose. But you shouldn't take a couple of sprays. What are those?

59:24Claudia Oshry:antihistamines when you're breastfeeding because it will dry up your supply. Makes sense. So I probably wasn't going to take antihistamines this season of allergies. I was just going to suffer. If Flonase doesn't sponsor me after the amount of times that I've said Flonase. But you still haven't convinced me. But you should. It's not an antihistamine? It's not an antihistamine. It goes up your nose. It's a quick spray and it just makes everything in these sinuses just feel a lot better. I'll think about it. Yeah, Flonase is good. And then I also put in eye drops. Okay. Because I get a Chi-I. Yeah, me too.

59:56Okay. All right. I got a regimen for you. My God. We're going to bring you in to my homeopathic shop. Are you ready for our final story? I am. Well, what is it? Well, you're not going to care. Maya Hawke will be starring in - Who? Ethan Hawke's daughter. No. I don't know who either of them are. She's from Stranger Things, and she's in everything now. What does she look like? I know Stranger Things. She's not really distinct looking. No idea. That doesn't change.

1:00:21Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Nope. But she will be starring in God of the Woods, which was one of the biggest books of last year. We read it for the Redheads. Yeah, it's just like the Redheads always being on the cusp of culture. And she will be starring in the adaptation for Netflix. And God of the Woods was one of our best books of that year. We all loved it. And it's a really great book. And even though I'm not like a huge Maya Hawkswirly, I think she'll be great in this. Like, I think it's a good choice. And I'm excited for the book to become a movie. It's also like Taylor was like reading it in one of her videos that she posted.

1:00:53Claudia Oshry:So it's just like a very buzzy book. It's the next big thing. So you'll be seeing a lot of it. The God of the Woods. Not to brag, but you know, my book is also becoming a movie. Which is? Oh, I was like. Marvelous Creatures. Where are we going? Oh, who's in it? I don't know. Do you want to find out? Sure. What is it? Remarkably. Remarkably Great Creatures. Right. Why can't I remember the name of this fucking book? Remarkably? Remarkably Bright Creatures. Okay. So Tova. Yes. Will be played by Sally Field. Ooh, good cast. Cameron. Who? Lewis Pullman. Do you know who that is? Yes, I do. Did you watch Lessons in Chemistry with Claudia?

1:01:28Yes, I did. He's great, and he's dating Kyrie Gerber. By the way, you just had me at Sally Field. My God, where's Robin Williams when you need him? He'd be so good in this as the octopus. So no one else is someone that I can recognize,

1:01:43Claudia Oshry:but here are some things. I mean, Sally's. Sally can carry it through for you. You know Sally's my birthday buddy, right? No, I didn't know that. Yeah, she's my birthday buddy. Yeah. So I know a lot about her, The Flying Nun. Yeah. Oh, Alfred. I feel like Claudia. Alfred Molina, I know. He was Octoman or whatever in Spider-Man. Wow, he does a lot of stuff with octo, with eights. Oh, maybe he's like you. He's a big eight guy. Maybe he loves Octopus. Laura Harris. I don't know these people, but Sally Field. Such a great casting. You think she'll be a great Tova? I think she'll be a great Tova. Ooh, I'm excited.

1:02:15So it's set to come out in 2026. That's this year. Yeah. I got to finish the book before the movie comes out. You do, but you want to know something once you start reading? I'm not going to like it as much, right? You're going to hate the movie. That's what I hear.

1:02:26Claudia Oshry:I think the only one who's ever done it right. Harry Potter. Is Harry Potter. Otherwise, if you've read the book, you will not like the adaptation. And if you haven't read the book, you will like the adaptation. Yeah. Okay. All right. I'm excited. Cautiously optimistic, but I'm excited. Yeah. It's kind of like the curse of being a reader. Sorry. Oh, I got it. But it's like, look, you've gotten this like weeks long positive experience as opposed to like a two hour movie. Totally. No. And now I get to watch a two hour movie and critique it. Yeah. Worst case. Oh, and you know what you get to say?

1:02:55Worst case I watch and you get to critique it. You get to say the movie was not as good. The book was better than the movie. Way better. Snobbish. Nigel with the brie. That must be Nigel with the brie. He didn't think the movie was as good as the book either. Oh my God, Nigel. You know what else I started this weekend before I let you go? Age of Attraction. I don't know what it is. Okay, it's this new dating show on Netflix. Oh, I've heard of it. It's hosted by Natalie Viall and Nick Viall, who I love. Yeah, they're great. I was so happy to see them on my screen doing big things. And also, they have an age app.

1:03:29They're actually the best advertisement for the show because when I'm watching the show, I'm like, age, mage. And the whole concept is you don't know the person's age, but you can see age more or less.

1:03:40Claudia Oshry:So it's not like this big mystery, but some people are either a lot younger or older than they look. So there has been some crazy age gaps. And I guess like with Nick and Natalie, if I was just looking at them, like they don't look so different ages. They look like 10 years apart. Yeah. That's what I would have thought. They're 18 years apart, which is actually like quite. That's a lot of years. Quite something. It is. Yeah, there's something to the premise. And the couples that I've seen like in Validate ages so far like are pretty wide in age gap. What's it called? Age of attraction. You said that.

1:04:10Age of attraction. All right. Maybe I'll watch it.

1:04:11Claudia Oshry:The premise is like they're on this retreat with a lot of singles. You couple with whoever you want. You spend a lot of days. You go on dates. At the end of the retreat, you go to the promise room and commit to each other, tell each other your age. And then they put you in the real world, love is blind style. Can you guys make it? Okay. And you have to meet each other's family. Is your husband loving it? He loves a dating show. He won't watch it with me. What? I think he saw a lot of clips of it. But he's like the biggest love is blind fan. Why wouldn't he like the show? That's what I said. I said, we're watching a new dating show on Netflix.

1:04:41You're sad. He was like, no, I saw a lot of clips of people revealing their ages. I think it was like spoiled for him. And then he wasn't interested. I know it was surprising. I was like, why am I watching this then? It's so funny. He would love it. But he should try. Claudia and I just started watching and finished Chip and Joanna Gaines. They were doing a like lake house. They were doing their own lake house. I didn't love the style of the lake house, honestly. What's the style?

1:05:10They made it very modern zen

1:05:14Claudia Oshry:So what's that like restoration hardware guide? No I don't know how to describe it to you There were a lot of greens When I think of a lake house I think of Or what I'd like in a lake house I think of like Like mountain Mountain Wood I love wood Wood in the mountains That's my thing Cabin vibes Oh is that why you sent me that house yesterday? Yeah, I was just like thinking about things. Oh, okay. Because I really was still waiting on like why are you sending that ugly house? Yeah. Is this the lake house? That's a nice kitchen. Lake house. That is a lovely kitchen. Yes. This is the lake house. You got to keep scrolling.

1:05:51It just didn't do it for me. That was a lovely kitchen.

1:05:54Claudia Oshry:Okay. These are the outdoor spaces. Okay. No, this is really beautiful. And you know what this is? It's like what's going to be popular next. Totally. You know what I mean? It's ahead of its time a little bit. I should clarify. I love Chip and Joanna Gaines. I love Fixer Upper. It's such a wonderful show. I've actually been watching her. Do you watch her cooking show? I love her cooking show. I think, but do they still make new episodes? I don't know. Because at one point I had seen every episode. I don't watch anything new. Like I could be, this show that I just watched could be easily be 10 years old and I wouldn't know it.

1:06:24Claudia Oshry:So what platform were you on where you saw it? Discovery Plus? One of the big ones. Worn up. Max. Maxie. One of the big ones. Maxie. Let's go home. Max, Hulu. Maxwell Netflix One of the big ones I even watch I like I think I'm the number one watcher Of Samsung TVs Me as well Yeah I watch Rachel Ray Not 30 Minute Meals Minutes under Yeah Like 30 under 30 30 under 30 Oh man Rachel Yeah Claudia's briefed us She's briefed you But what Did you watch of Joanna's cooking show I watched her make Dumplings with her family I watched her make I don't even remember I just love her vibe Have you seen her make baklava?

1:07:03No Oh, yeah.

1:07:04Claudia Oshry:She makes a fierce baklava. Yeah, I really like her cooking show. Where does she learn to make baklava? So she... Does she have Jewish roots? Yeah. I didn't... It's a Greek dish. Yeah, I was thinking babka. No, she didn't make a babka. I was like, where did you learn babka? Yeah, baklava is definitely not Jewish. No, no, no. And it's so delicious. Oh, I love a baklava, especially when it's nice and nutty and honey. Yeah, you should look for that episode. It's like you could make it. You know, you can make baklava. It looked really hard, but you could do it. I could totally make it. Let's vlog.

1:07:36I've been making my own labneh. I know you're not a labneh fan. Oh, yeah. I know. I've heard about your labneh. I've been making my own cheese. Really delish. I've been making my own cheese. That must be Nigel with the brie. Really good. I should make my own brie. Nigel. Yeah. Thank you so much, Ben, for joining us. Thank you for having me. This was wonderful. This was great. What a time.

1:07:52Claudia Oshry:I look forward to discussing these stories tomorrow with Claudia. So if you felt like we went too easy on some people, don't worry. I don't think we did. I think it was appropriate. I'll be very curious to hear her thoughts on Justin. On Justin Demerlake? Yeah. Yeah. We definitely missed a rant about Chapel. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. She's fierce. She's a fierce woman. Claudia. Claudia, not Chapel. Yeah, she's a fierce woman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not Chapel. No, she just went off about Chapel, about the paparazzi, and that was before the 11-year-old was made to cry. So I think it would be an even stronger reaction.

1:08:21Yeah, yeah. Well, thank you very much for having me. As always, listen to the good guys as well. It's a wonderful podcast.

1:08:27Claudia Oshry:After you've listened to every single episode of The Toast. Yeah, it's just extra filler, you know, just like you're looking for your day. What's going on on G. We're having a great time. We have a great guest today. We have Andrew Santino on today, who I love. He's hysterical. We recently had, oh, we had an episode that you're going to love. I think Claudia told me. Yeah. We had Spencer Pratt. Yeah, she told me on the show. It was literally mayoral. Like, we were interviewing him. It was 60 Minutes style and his platform. Wow. Yeah. He's running on some good things. But she told us he forgot to ask about Masked Singer.

1:09:00Yeah, but like, because he's the mayor. Because he's the mayor. I wonder if he'll win. He should win. Yeah. Like, he's running on the right things for LA. Yeah, I think he really cares about the city. He's a man of the people. He has like no other agenda other than like wanting the city to be amazing. Exactly. Like, that's a good place to start. The only problem with what he's doing is he's going to split votes. He's running as an independent. He's giving kind of Curtis Sliwa, and he's going to split votes. But do you think he'll drop out after, like, if it gets to that point? No. Unlike Sliwa?

1:09:36No, he's in it for the long haul. Who's the Republican candidate? I have no idea. And then Karen Bass is the Democrat? I just know that he calls her Karen Basura, which I think is like rat or something. Basura means garbage. There you go. Karen Basura. That's what he calls her. He's so funny. This episode with Spencer Pratt was so good. He's so funny. When does that come out? No, like maybe tomorrow or something. Maybe this Thursday. Okay. It's soon. It's soon. And so, yeah, if you live in L.A., like we should be voting for Spencer Pratt. Like what do I know? L.A. elections. I don't know anything.

1:10:05I just – he made some good points. And there was like some really fucked up shit going on in L.A. Well, yeah. The last year. So like maybe you could use a change. Well, yeah. I would say so. Maybe you could use a change. But what do I know? And then the last thing that I'll mention is that if you go to spurtsociety.com, Heels collab. I made it 20 % off for toasters. So use code toast, 20 % off. There's only like 50 of them left. Go grab them. They'll be gone by the end of the day. They'll be gone by the end of the day. It's our non-alcoholic hydrating product. So exciting, non-alcoholic. Yeah, it's lovely.

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1:11:17No, I have my, was my Gaia herbs delivered? Anybody know? Oh, God! It's so bad. I hope that they just left it outside. If anybody has a tickle in their throat, this is not sponsored. Guy Herbs, quick defense. You have a tickle in your throat. My God, this is herbs from the gods. You got echinacea, you got some other Asias. This stuff, oof. My God, it's fantastic. So yeah, no, all I'm trying to do is get my wife well.

1:11:41Claudia Oshry:I saw a hilarious - You think she's gonna take echinacea? No, she's not going to. But she's drinking a lot of water. I saw a hilarious video, I'll send it to you, where like the wife is being chased around the house. She like mentioned to her husband that she was sick and he's chasing her around with a bottle of water. Oh, that's funny. Which is so me. You gotta hydrate. You do. She's doing chicken soup. She's doing tea. If she's not better by today, tomorrow, then she's really fucking sick. Did you make her chicken soup? I wanted to make her chicken soup and then she ordered it from the deli and...

1:12:08Did she like it? No. No, you gotta do homemade. Homemade. Otherwise it's too oily. Yeah, it's kind of yucky. Yeah, there's too much schmaltz. Too much chicken fat. Yeah. Too schmaltzy. Is that what schmaltz is? Yeah, chicken pat. The more you know. The more you know. Thank you guys so much for listening to The Toast. We love you so much, and we will see you tomorrow. Love ya. Bye. Toodaloo.

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