Don't You Find?: Thursday, April 23rd, 2026

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18:04Claudia Oshry:I went to Myrtle Beach. I had an amazing time. It was a very formative experience. And so I would say if you're looking for like an amazing formative experience. How did you spend your time? Oh, we went to the beaches. We went to the town. We, you know, hit up a couple of bars, clubs, like the local scene. It was just so awesome. There was something for everyone. Because, you know, some people, they like to stay home and like be by the beach and pool day. Very personal. You know, we had like some pool parties, but other people like they want to get out, see the local culture, maybe like souvenir shop.

18:29Claudia Oshry:And there was just really something for everyone. And I was with a lot of girls, like a very big house because I'm a very social girl. I have a lot of friends and we all were able to find something that we love to do. So I would totally recommend Myrtle Beach for anyone. And I imagine now as someone with a family, like it would be an amazing destination for a family vacation.

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23:47Claudia Oshry:it would have been so authentic like a little too authentic i just want to say i'm tired of being authentic i know i know but i think ultimately it's the right move 2027 is like the year i start lying yeah this year is the year of authenticity truth but maybe next year we can set different intentions be like the year of lies yeah i wonder how that would go for us i don't think it would go well for everyone else it does and then it doesn't like i don't i think ultimately it would be the wrong move okay to start lying but what do i know our first story major reality tv news as hulu's get real house their get real event was yesterday which is pretty much their up runs where they tell all of the new shows that they have premiering and coming out so here is what we're getting in no particular order okay i'm like i'm overwhelmed first we have a secret lives of mormon wives spinoff the secret lives of mormon wives orange county and they've revealed their cast list with so many familiar names.

24:52Claudia Oshry:I'm very, very surprised. I am too, especially because, of course, everybody's now doing like a deep dive on all these people. Almost none of them, besides Macy's sister, are Mormon.

25:01Kim Kardashian:Some of them were never Mormon. Like, I don't even know how they're like a part of it.

25:07Claudia Oshry:I don't know why they would call it secret lives of Mormon wives. Like, why not secret lives of beachy wives or something? Of OC bitches. Right. Here is who's on it. So I think the show is like really the, you know, the Sheena Shea to Brandi Glanville pipeline is Macy to her sister, McCall. Which is great. Great. That's a good connection. We thought it was going to be Jen Affleck. That's what like the rumors had been. Oh, yeah. What happened to her? She wasn't even there. Like Macy, Miranda, Layla, Macy and Jessie were tapped for the event to like show up and do press and then announce. Yeah, they did like a little announcement on stage, like a little sketch.

25:42Claudia Oshry:And then they announced a new show. And here are the cast members. You're going to recognize a lot of names. First, we have Bobby Altoff.

25:50Kim Kardashian:Oh, right. She just went on Good Guys. She's that girl who interviewed, she had the podcast that showed up out of nowhere and had like Drake and Mark Cuban. And then there was like rumors that she was hooking up with Drake. And then her husband and her got divorced. Like she's crazy.

26:02Claudia Oshry:Yeah. So now she's going to be on this show, which sounds like great and interesting casting. She also, yeah, she got divorced from her husband. She has two kids. So now we're going to see more about her personal life. Aspen Ovard.

26:15Kim Kardashian:Yeah, I know you don't know who that is. I barely do. I know the name. She had a big scandal on TikTok, which was like, she was like a family channel. She married someone Mormon, but I don't think she ever became Mormon. But there's a Mormon connection. And they had like, you know, family channel, whatever. And then she got divorced. And everyone was like, what? It was so confusing. And now she's a part of a throuple where like she is the third in a married couple.

26:37Claudia Oshry:Wow. I've heard the name before. I've seen her around the internet. She had like a big moment on TikTok when she got divorced. people were and she was like making all these tiktoks like alluding to what her husband did and like never told anyone which was so fucking annoying um and now i guess she's a part of the now i guess she's on crack um i wanted to just confirm something because i feel like she was friends with um jc marie which and now thinking about it like jc and chelsea would be so good for this show i bet you they got that lives in oc yeah and is she mormon but i even know that's She used to be.

27:10Oh, right. I did know that. Oh, yeah.

27:13Claudia Oshry:She definitely said no. And Chelsea, too. They definitely said no. But they would have been really great for this. And she doesn't follow Aspen. So they were either nether friends or they're beefing. Yeah. Then we have Avery Woods, the unwell of it all. She is a TikToker turned podcaster on the Unwell Network. She also has like myriads of scandals because she said to Harry Jowsey that her vagine is intact because she had a couple of C-sections. And she was like being really flirty with him on her podcast when she's literally married. Um, and yeah, she's interesting to me. I don't know. And she said something about Jesus.

27:48Oh yeah. Oh yeah. She was making the point that like a lot of her haters, like, you know, who sent her like really mean messages have like, you know, Corinthians in their bio, which like happens a lot. But then she said something like Jesus would like, yeah, she said something really crude and, um, offensive. Disrespectful. Yeah. and what I kind of think of when I think of her is that she was really really really like best friends with Emily Kaiser and last year when Emily Kaiser lost her son like her and Avery

28:19Jackie Oshry:like were spotted not spotted were together once and then never again oh that's interesting I didn't

28:24Claudia Oshry:know that uh it's Emily Kaiser live in Orange County she lives no she lives in Phoenix oh okay

28:30Kim Kardashian:Okay. Salam out Phoenix. Like I love Emily Kaiser. Actually just give Emily Kaiser a show. But yeah, like Emily had was still like completely offline and Avery, I guess, had gone to visit her and Avery also went offline. Avery was like, I just like she wasn't posting. And when Avery came back, she made a get ready with me and she was wearing a necklace that said Emily's son's name. And then she removed the video and they were never like seen together again. well that's very odd yeah very strange very strange okay i love emily kaiser i need emily kaiser to become a toaster i just i feel like she would love the show i know that's like obnoxious to say because it's my show but i just feel like she would love it you're saying it objectively no like i don't say that about everyone i don't think stephen colbert would love the show you know but he loves our sound he does he used our tic tac sound last night but i do think emily

29:21Claudia Oshry:kaiser would yeah and i just want to say we've named like three names so far and there's so much lore here already like yes it bodes really well now the rest of the names there's not as much uh salome andrea mccall depran that's macy's sister chandler higginson ashley peace and madison fisher so i saw photos of these girls i don't know them but like just from the photos

29:39Kim Kardashian:i'm like oh they're the elk i will say the reception on tiktok has been so overwhelmingly negative what and i just yeah i only because i don't think that like the tiktokers they tapped are like beloved right now you know it's highs and lows when you're an influencer people love you they hate you having said that like they're also the ones that i've heard of like are like lightning rods like i just said there's so much lore so whether people like it or not i do think it'll be successful i think it sounds so good i'm sad i'm glad we're finally tapping influencers for reality tv like there's a reason why millions of people follow them they're interesting yeah

30:12Claudia Oshry:and reality tv stars become influencers it's just like a a very clear pipeline and a perfect match So that's very exciting to hear about. It will drop later this year. Parji. Then we also got Stassi's show confirmed title and trailer for House of Stassi, which is the show about Stassi and Stassi's world. House of Stassi is such a sickening name. Now, of course, it's very high fashion, but also it's very Game of Thrones.

30:42Kim Kardashian:Yes, exactly. Khaleesi.

30:43Claudia Oshry:It's sick.

30:45Kim Kardashian:Yeah, we've known that Stassi is getting a show for like four years because they announced it four years ago and they said she would also be like a Vanderpump Villa person and she's done three seasons of Vanderpump Villa and we haven't gotten a season of House of Stassi so finally our time has come and I actually think all in all Stassi's star has risen so much that the show will be so successful now maybe three years ago it would have been smaller so them having waited actually works yeah and I just want to say where was my friends Taylor and Taylor in the trailer like there where was Taylor and Taylor yeah I know satchel Katie Maloney is in it oh my god And Christina Kelly.

31:16Claudia Oshry:Yeah, Katie Maloney, Christina Kelly, and Stassi's sister are like big cast members. So are Taylor and Taylor. Not according to what I saw yesterday.

31:26Kim Kardashian:I know. Like, put that bitch in the trailer. I know Taylor Strecker was starting stuff. I know a little bit about the show, but like, honestly, not a lot. And I am going to watch it like pretty blindly. I don't know a ton, but I know that they lived in LA for a couple of months filming it. And I know it was wild. Well, I can't wait to watch. Like, Taylor Strecker, she just can't help herself.

31:41Jackie Oshry:Like, she's a perfect reality star.

31:42Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Yeah. Satchel. I mean, if Katie Maloney brings Satchel to House of Sassi, I'll be more open. She's bringing her other boyfriend who's not Satchel. Satchel.

31:55Kim Kardashian:I know. It's funny that like the characters that were plucked from Vanderpump Rules that come to House of Sassi. Like you couldn't have picked two people that I like less.

32:02Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Christina Kelly is not. I mean, she's just like always like a good friend to Sassi. So I think she's like a good supplemental character on the show. And I don't feel like that's like a controversial casting. no when I think of Christina Kelly like I definitely think of her worst moment and for some reason she like did nothing on the show really besides that so it's all I always

32:23Kim Kardashian:think about when she's like not invited to Sheena's wedding and so she's like sitting scrolling making fun of her dress like it was so mean yeah and it was just it was like genuinely the textbook definition of mean girl and then she was not really a main character on the show so I don't really remember anything else like nothing she ever did stuck with me she was actually always

32:38Claudia Oshry:around but like she just never could come back from that yeah and she was always around because you shouldn't be like your worst meanest moment i know i know and so i'm sure she's grown from that but like it's all i think about yeah no i can't move on maybe we'll get something new from house of stassi like some new association of her hopefully then chloe was the sister to go to the event because of course kardashians are on hulu but there's a new show coming out the girls which is all about chloe's best friends so we have and kim and kim um natalie and olivia from wags and also kim and chloe's friends we have a nicole and khadijah malik and khadijah nicole williams english who's also from wags and she's on sports illustrated this year um then there was iris palmer the one who turns with kylie and she turns with kylie yeah i have a hot take what I don't think this show is going to be good like these are women who have had like a decade of Kardashian exposure and they haven't really like taken off in a meaningful way they're just

33:45Kim Kardashian:like hanger honors and so I just think like if like the Kardashians put me on their Instagram like I would be gone you know like I feel like I have the goods like I just I don't think like we know all there is to know really about Malika and maybe not so much Khadija but like I don't know I'm just not I'm not feeling inspired by this I agree you know what I was just thinking about

34:04Claudia Oshry:this like I feel like there are so many instances where like a show is good um I like it like I think it's a good idea I like the people on it and it just like never gets to be successful I feel like there are a couple people who have had a couple shows at this point and they've gone nowhere and like at a certain point like maybe it's not good and maybe it's not a good idea because it's not happening last year Chloe and Scott announced a show called beyond the gates that they were executive producing that never came out. I feel like this is it. Right. Reiterated. Yeah. Like, and they just like pivoted to being the girl.

34:36Claudia Oshry:So it's about like Chloe's friends. They don't all live beyond the gates. So that title doesn't work. But I feel like this is that. Got it. And it's like the show really needs like Chloe and Kim for it to work. Yeah. And Chloe and Kim already spread thin on their own show. They already don't have enough to share about their personal lives week to week. It's like you could feel they're like really scraping.

34:57Kim Kardashian:um so i actually and the girls are dropping like flies the sisters so while i do like initially

35:03Claudia Oshry:get really excited by this news because those are my girls from wags you know and i loved wags yeah of course i know you're like og i i guess i do have to express concern as well and i do have

35:13Kim Kardashian:to do find yeah i'm just i'm not i don't i actually don't know if i'll be watching this unless it gets to a place where everyone's like have you seen the girls yeah i agree i i can't

35:24Claudia Oshry:waste my time on things that like only I like you know yeah right then we also hold on there's so much more like million dollar nannies million dollar nannies which is a show which is a reality

35:35Kim Kardashian:show about like a lot of young women who moved to Ibiza because there's a market there for like luxury nannies and so they're just these young hot nannies who get paid a lot of money yes then

35:44Claudia Oshry:we also have the next pro dancing with the stars the glee project competition right searching for their next dance pro hosted by robert irwin and i feel like we had heard whispers of that but

35:56Jackie Oshry:now it's confirmed yeah i don't remember if they had confirmed they had said that robert irwin was going to host it even though that's a great host it does make it he definitely was giving industry

36:04Claudia Oshry:plant on his season he's hosting yeah it is robert irwin hosting industry plant like of course he won

36:11Kim Kardashian:he's hosting their next big show yeah you know yeah like i feel like with carlton he was such like an you know uh underdog and like the it was so genuine like people just loved him and he is a professional host so when they needed to tap someone it didn't feel so like this feels really

36:27Claudia Oshry:um like planned oh wow I didn't even like think of it but it's so true especially when you think about the legacy of this season of Dancing with the Stars like it's so not about Robert Irwin it's about Whitney and Alex yeah yeah it is um next Parker Posey is hosting a new competition show called the mob which will feature the likes of joe gorga and demi wait what a new competition show called the mob hosted by parker posey of josie and the pussycats fame yes and white lotus it's a competition show yeah joe and it's people and demi and it's people in the mob to me lucy may to me lucy may is gonna be on it in the mob with joe are you saying english like The mob.

37:13The mob. By the way, I didn't see this one. I was watching all the Hulu stuff, but I got excited and sidetracked with Stassi and Taylor.

37:21Claudia Oshry:So I guess it's going to be another reality TV competition alumni show. Another Traitors. Yeah. Yeah, I guess it's like Traitors and it's like a mob.

37:29Kim Kardashian:I thought it was people who are in the mob, so it was going to be like Caroline Manzo and the mob wives. You said Joe Gorga first. It's going to have mob vibes. Did you say Gorga or Giudice? I said Gorga. Oh, yeah, because if it was Judiche, they can't film in the States. Oh, yeah. Even though I'm saying Joe Gorka, even though I'm saying it, I'm seeing Joe Judiche. Yeah, right, right, right. But he can't. He's, like, restricted. I'm sorry. This show is far more interesting with Joe Judiche. What's the premise of, like, the competition? Are they, like, all in a house together? Let me look. But it definitely feels like mob.

38:04Kim Kardashian:And then last year they had launched a bunch of shows that, like, weren't brought up this year. so it's safe to say they're not getting another season like um that colton underwood and caitlin bristow dating show about virgins remember oh no i don't remember thankfully yeah i don't even know if it ever came out i'm curious if alex cooper's love overboard is going to get another season

38:25Claudia Oshry:the oh it's yeah she was like a bit she's a big hulu yeah maybe she was planning on being there but pulled out otherwise oh my god all of these all of these articles about describing the show the mob are like have under behind paywalls oh that's so wait here's what i could see before the paywall the mob follows a group of stars in an italian villa as they compete for up to 250 000 in challenges inspired by i want to say the mob like you have to take a horse head and put it in

38:55Kim Kardashian:the bed or whatever okay that's a little crazy oh the theme that actually so joe judice could go because it's filmed in Italy. Yeah, exactly. So, okay, here's more. Oh, it's giving traitors, but instead of all the challenges being like Ireland themed, or Scotland, excuse me. It's so offensive when I say that. I'm sorry, you guys. And now I guess it's like we're going to be smashing grapes. Yeah, okay, here. Thank you, TVInsider.com. Contestants will live in a lavish Italian villa where they will shake down, hustle, and whack their way to win cash prizes. Oh, this is offensive. This is stereotyping.

39:28Every episode, They will tackle mob inspired movie jobs to survive. Sure, movies. But every mob family needs a Don and whoever they choose will have absolute power. Deciding who makes money, who stays and who ultimately gets whacked. Oh, it's traitors. In a game where power demands absolute loyalty. Can the Don stay in control or will the family rise up and overthrow them? I'm obsessed. It sounds so good. I'm fucking cracking up. I had no idea. I saw all the shows announced and I did not see the show.

39:56Claudia Oshry:it's it's giving like back in the early 2000s when like all these dating shows and like you know transformation shows like we're spinning out and then we got the swan and right it was the same premise but like a new outfit and it's just like they went so crazy with it because like it was so successful they just wanted to make more and more this is giving like traders becoming like we're trying to make a million traders and like we're getting a little crazy with it a thousand percent um okay back to the slate of programming that has been announced we also have hold on i just lost all my tabs oh that's good yeah yeah i love losing well of course we said love thy nader season two in the winter the love thy nader winter games okay here we go then travis barker why he was there he's his documentary film louder than fear is premiering on hulu That's great.

40:48He has such an interesting story. Obviously, like he's a prolific drummer, but he was also in a plane crash. Yeah. And he has like a lot of lore tied to like Hollywood.

40:55Claudia Oshry:Yes. Then Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Runway Show special will air on Hulu. Oh, I didn't see that either. Wait, that's kind of major, like very much taking over Victoria's Secret.

41:06Kim Kardashian:Yeah. And the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Show like has become a real spectacle. Like, yeah, they've done a good job of like tapping models and influencers, reality star celebrities. Oh, that's fun. Yes.

41:17Claudia Oshry:Then a weekly Get Real Reality TV podcast hosted by Amanda Hirsch. Not Skinny Benat Fat.

41:22Kim Kardashian:Oh, I didn't see that it was hosted by her.

41:24Claudia Oshry:Yes, this is from Gibsonoma. He like sort of summed up everything. Thank you, Gibsonoma. Reality TV recap podcast. Oh, so it's a podcast on Hulu. Great. Do they have other podcasts? Well, no, you know, this is the eternal thing. Like streamers starting podcasts so they can be non-union projects, but it's just a TV show. But I don't think it's about the union at this point. I really don't. Look how many union projects they're doing. You think they're scared of the union? Just saying. I just think that's a conspiracy. I think they just want to, like people like a reality TV recap podcast. They don't like a reality TV recap TV show.

41:59Kim Kardashian:Well, no, it sounds like we were saying earlier, it might've been on the recorded episode that ended up in the garbage, but that Hulu is really becoming such a hub of reality TV. It's kind of eclipsing Bravo where they have all these shows that are connected. They date from Vanderpump Villa to the Secret Lives. Like it's all the stars are connected. And they need a Watch What Happens Live. Yeah.

42:21Claudia Oshry:And Amanda Hirsch is a good choice for that. Agreed. I feel like when it comes to the people who like the reality TV recap people, it would be like her or the Vials. Nick Vial, yeah. I can't imagine that they have like the bandwidth to do a show like that.

42:33Kim Kardashian:No, also they did the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, first reunion.

42:40Jackie Oshry:And I don't think the fans liked him. But they do like other reunions on their show. I know. They host Temptation Island reunion. Very cool. I'm just saying. I think like the Q score came back. I'm sure he was considered. Then a Christian college dating show called Ring by Spring Break.

42:56Kim Kardashian:Which like is in pre-production. They were like asking for people to submit their profiles. Yes.

43:00Claudia Oshry:And then like season 22 of Project Runway. Like seriously, who gives a fuck? Oh, I kind of like didn't know. I'm like, why is Heidi Klum there? Oh, that's funny. But anyways. Oh, and then. No, Dancing with the Stars. Oh, Dancing with the Stars. So two confirmed cast members, we have Maura Higgins and Sierra Miller confirmed.

43:18Kim Kardashian:Okay. So let's just talk about like the two. We knew Maura, like she was sort of rumored. I think they thought everyone thought it was going to be Maura and Rob and maybe it would have been, has it not been for like the two week long Sierra Miller.

43:29Claudia Oshry:And maybe Rob is still on the season. Yeah. But they just announced Maura confirmed and then Maura cut to Sierra. She was like remote from New York, like saying that she's excited and she's going to be on. And I think that's like really a great casting.

43:42Kim Kardashian:It's a great casting because like one, she's having a moment and two, she's having a moment like it has exploded beyond the Bravo universe. But like this really does make you so globally known, not globally, like nationally known people who don't watch reality. It's just it's such a big show. And maybe there was a time because I remember when Alex Earl was announced last year. I remember I said and I was wrong that like this feels so lowbrow for her. But the show is now I would say it's the biggest reality competition series. and it's like it's such an attractive show to be on. She made it highbrow.

44:12Kim Kardashian:Agreed. Like I actually agree that now it seems like a natural next step for Ciara. Whereas maybe last year I would have thought if Ciara was like having this moment, I would have been like, no, she should go somewhere else. But I don't consider it lowbrow anymore.

44:24Claudia Oshry:Yeah, I agree. I think this is going to be really fun in another dazzling season of Dancing with the Stars. I'm excited to see who they also cast.

44:32Kim Kardashian:I feel like with all this Dancing with the Stars stuff, it's a great time to download Polly Market because I have a lot of predictions. obviously I think I could have predicted Sierra and Maura I also would have predicted Rob and I have a good prediction that I'd like to share

44:44Claudia Oshry:a prediction for who's going to be like a contestant on Dancing with the Stars who you think

44:50Jackie Oshry:everyone's saying like a lot of the same people but I have someone like

44:52Kim Kardashian:unique Ashton Earl that's a good one they do love siblings they love siblings and they have this big TV show coming out so they're doing like a lot of promo

45:02Jackie Oshry:she's kind of an it girl of the moment I just saw her do an ad with Chanel. Like, I'm telling you, I feel like I have a lot of pop culture knowledge that I would like to get. Put it in the market. On Polymarket. Put it in the market. Yeah, I like to take my pop culture knowledge to Polymarket. I spend all this time like thinking of things, predicting. Sometimes I'm wrong, sometimes I'm right. And I feel like Polymarket is kind of where I need to be. Do we literally like do this for fun on the show?

45:23Claudia Oshry:I also think if you're going to be making some predictions on Polymarket, I think Miranda from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives would be a very good prediction.

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45:39Claudia Oshry:Okay, well that's all the stuff that we can look forward to in the next year, which is ultimately good news for the Toast because we love watching great television and recapping it and this sounds like great television. Shout out to Hulu for like doing that, you know? Shout out to Hulu for doing the most, for hiring people, for thinking big and small, you know? Don't forget about like our little small friends who we could get on a show. Absolutely. So I think it's really great and exciting for the landscape. For the landscape, for sure. Our next story, exciting news for the landscape. Josh Allen praises his rock star wife, Haley Seinfeld, as he opens up about balancing football and being a new dad.

46:15Claudia Oshry:Have they ever said the name of their baby? Not yet. He did a press conference on Monday and answered questions about how becoming a father has changed his perspective on football and life. He said, I mean, I think it definitely changed his mindset a little bit. I'm very excited. I do think this is going to be the best version of myself, you know, in all aspects in my professional career and my personal life. It's such a blessing. And I've got an absolute rock star of a wife that's doing so many things right now and allowing me to be here right now and be with my teammates, noting that it's a special time.

46:45Jackie Oshry:I can't even report on these two anymore because I have nothing to say other than the fact that I just love them so much.

46:49Claudia Oshry:And like it just could bring a tear to the eye. And that's a sensitive turdy, the side of you that's very sensitive. Right, not my wild side. And I also want to say something crazy about – This story makes out your sensitive side. I want to say something crazy about Josh and Haley. Okay. I feel like they're this generation's Tom and Giselle.

47:11I agree. Like they're on their way. I agree.

47:15Jackie Oshry:You fucking better, bitch. Okay. But I also, additionally. I see how you're going to use language to disagree. Go. Additionally, I feel like they're placing a new path.

47:31i additionally feel like they're blazing a new path as well don't you find a path that's never been blazed before a new a new path a new way forward right a new way yeah but yes they are in the sense that they are like the biggest i guess like tom and giselle is more like travis

47:49Kim Kardashian:and taylor not no like i know because they're just they've a clip set he's not even a football

47:54Claudia Oshry:player anymore like he's so many other things like being a part of tom and giselle made each of them even greater right but also they became tom and giselle whereas like hayley and josh are going to become hayley and josh in the time that he was married to giselle like that's when he became really goaded so when he started like he wasn't the goat and then same for her but when they started it was just another football player dating another model they built that brick by brick it's true and they blazed a new way i i find that yes i do find um so just mazel tov to the allens per usual like we stay sat for any information and crumbs that we can receive absolutely tell us the name of your baby i heard it's harper you heard it's harper allen oh we talked about this textbooks yeah oh yeah sounds like textbook company mcgraw hill harper allen uh no and i said and i said it's harper allen attorney at law like it's such a law firm Yeah.

48:51Or it's Harper Allen, beautiful baby girl. Works for me, too.

48:56Claudia Oshry:Our next story, Unwellmageddon. Get out the whiteboard. What now? Oh. Alex Cooper and her husband skip a team meeting after behavior complaints and Bloomberg article drops. So Unwell hosted in all hands, I guess, to like, you know, voice concerns about Unwell. And the two of them were not in attendance, according to the word on the street.

49:20Kim Kardashian:I wonder what it's like to work at a company that gets like a toxic workplace allegation. Like what happens at the actual workplace?

49:27Claudia Oshry:Yeah, well, I feel like this happens all the time, actually. And apparently the CMO led the meeting. He said that, you know, employee turnover there is actually lower than most startups. So I guess, yeah, if you compare employee turnover to like GM, it's very high. But if you compare it to like other startups where people like work hard, burn out, decide this isn't right for them, like things are moving a mile a minute it's more the Bloomberg article was extremely soft like

49:53Kim Kardashian:there I I know now for a fact there's a Vanity Fair article currently being like a real hit piece being uh worked on right now and this one kind of came out preemptively I didn't feel like there was anything in the article that crazy except that her husband yells at everyone so the turnover rate being like the headline I'm sorry like that's sort of like the nature of startups the nature of media like I didn't I don't find that to be like a huge um red flag like the article didn't really have anything new except that her husband yells so it's like sure let's hear from your

50:26Claudia Oshry:husband but he didn't go to the meeting yeah yeah it was just sort of like a summation of everything they've done and not done in the year it was like it's also a summation of like the art

50:36Kim Kardashian:the the online backlash like it was not real investigative journalism it was like I think sloppily and quickly put together yes but this vanity fair piece that allegedly is coming was in the works long before i think they threw this together when alex cooper started like trending at bloomberg i think that's what happened the vanity fair one just like bad timing i've heard

50:57Claudia Oshry:is it in the works for like weeks and months well i guess we'll see what that one entails no word from alex or anything regarding no business as usual zara larson on the podcast posting clips posting pictures of the dog you know deflect onto the dog deflect onto the dog and bruno doesn't like that we were talking about it because a lot of people wanted his thoughts on this first lex and he just finds it all to be like animal abuse it's kind of textbook tokenism you know like just using your dog honestly it really is not cool not cool um so yeah but i also feel like the rumors are just the rumors and nastiness are rumors and nastiness and it's like i can't keep apart like what I've seen from like randoms online versus like whispers like of just like people really saying like the worst things about them I feel like it's getting really bad it is getting really

51:48Jackie Oshry:bad but it's all unsubstantiated I think people take like whenever someone's you know in the dog house they feel like they should make a tick tock about the interaction they had and I think that they blow it out of proportion a lot of times so I think in order for it to like to be in vanity

51:59Kim Kardashian:fair like it has to be pretty vetted and so I think that'll be like a more of a a damn yeah if there's real allegations in there because everybody keeps saying and I did this and I heard him and he

52:11Jackie Oshry:did this but it's all very he said she said I don't think any of it is like really verified so I'll hold my breath until then I do feel bad for her like I do yeah like the hits start coming and they don't stop coming yeah I think maybe at a point in this saga I would have said like she can you know get out of this unscathed but now like we have so many like postmarks coming up like benchmarks whatever we have this vanity fair article we have alex earl's reality show we have sophia's book yeah it's like six months kind of like when justin timberlake had such a like every

52:44Kim Kardashian:month there was something bad coming out a documentary of him from the 90s the pictures of him holding a hand of a woman you know it just the hits start coming and i feel like that's what's going to happen to her it's just going to be sort of non-stop over the next couple of months and

52:54Claudia Oshry:it's crazy that as of this moment it's not even about licks verse lex anymore oh yeah and like

52:59Jackie Oshry:trust me I want to hear from Alex but it's just like not even the topic of discussion anymore it's really like devolved into unwellmageddon yeah yeah and unwell and then you know I people

53:11Claudia Oshry:do also say like the name unwell which is like it is Sophia's word yeah which is really crazy that's really crazy and if that's true like why don't people make more of that well I would love

53:25Jackie Oshry:to hear from a lawyer actually like what Sophia's entitled to because Alex selling Sophia's work to Spotify but I guess Sophia relinquished ownership of that work when she left Barstool I don't think

53:38Claudia Oshry:they had a contract in place so it was anyone's for the taking and whoever gets on the microphone and gets the right there's no contract there was not a contract which is it's just crazy yeah and

53:51Kim Kardashian:And then, yes, starting merch, products, beverages, tours, networks. Obviously, that's not like a word. Like, we invented the word pargy. Like, unwell is a preexisting word in the dictionary. But under the terms, like, and the context was Sophia. Yeah, what are you legally entitled to? I don't think anything. I just think it's, like, this really gray area of, like, unethical.

54:13Claudia Oshry:No, and it's just, like, listeners would know that, like, Sophia surfaced the word unwell in one of her stories or whatever. And then like Alex went on to like co-opt it and make it right. Her thing really crazy. But it's like, I can't help but think like if Sophia was the one who went to Dave and took the podcast, there was no way, there's no way Alex would have taken that sitting down. I feel like she would have had some sort of recourse. I guess like she would have fought and Sophia didn't fight.

54:37Kim Kardashian:Yeah. And I think when we criticize, like not we,

54:39Jackie Oshry:like when people criticize Alex Cooper for that, like if Sophia had gone to Dave and taken the podcast, like I don't think call her daddy would be now what it is. Like she, and she had said this once that I thought it was like quite, self-aware of her she's like i'm not a journalist i'm a marketer and it's yeah because everybody comes at her like you don't ask any follow-up questions like call her daddy is not some like investigative platform it's not going to get you like the best most thorough interview it's a press stop and it's a lot of like fluff and yeah it's all marketing and so that's her real skill skill and like brilliance is what she turned it into and i don't think if sofia had taken it it would be what it is now yeah i would agree with that i'm glad um are you ready for our next story if it's our next story that's brought to you by i just want to say i feel like we really didn't talk about licks versus lex and we can put the one back up on the board we didn't talk about licks versus lex so we can put the because doesn't the board say licks lex licks lex not unwell No, but now it's not about that.

55:40We'll have to change the board. Like, sorry.

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59:44Claudia Oshry:Thank you, Turdback. You're welcome. Our fourth story. Nikki Glaser shared a funny anecdote about sending flowers to everyone she made fun of at the Golden Globes. Oh, that's cute. The only person who responded with a gift of their own was Leonardo DiCaprio, who sent her three baskets of pasta.

1:00:03Kim Kardashian:Class act. I love, first of all, little behind the scenes details and logistics like this. This is what I live for.

1:00:09Claudia Oshry:Yeah, so she is promoting her new comedy special called Good Girl, which also, like, it seems as though she's about to be on Get Real with me with Alex Earle. Oh, my, the most embarrassing thing is happening to me. What? So Alex Earle posted a video, like, teasing her new guest, and she was talking to camera.

1:00:24Jackie Oshry:She's like, my next guest is a comedian, a Taylor Swift superfan, and, like, internet, like, commentator, sort of. And all the comments, Jackie, everyone was saying me. And it's like, first of all, kill me. I'm just, I'm humiliated. It's not me.

1:00:38Claudia Oshry:wait why are you humiliated because it's not you because it's not me okay so is that the embarrassing thing that's happening to you i thought you might have commented on it something do you comment no you should comment something and act like it's you be like can't wait to chat oh i should be like guys remember when i took that trip to la last month meanwhile i've like literally never been to la you guys remember i took that trip to la last month you could just like or just like comment some emojis like the raising hand or something just like make it a about you to like get some eyes on you wasn't nikki glazer just on call her daddy yes so i think that's like really crazy and then she was also on one of the jimmies talking about licks versus lex and i think she considering she's about to be on get real and was just with both girls i think she's actually handled it really deftly yeah i'm surprised licks would want to guess that was just on lex yeah i actually am very surprised and that actually makes no sense it makes no sense she must not have known i could i would have seen her canning the episode like yeah but she's going full steam with the promo and the good girl on the mirror and the guesses everybody does like guesses for their podcast and jackie like the guessing like good girl good guys oh yeah it's me it's literally me you should comment be like is it me you could say is it me because then you're not being a liar acting like it's you okay hold on go do it that's that's a good comment hold on everyone go like claudia's comment and hype her up oh yeah yeah okay so get Tell her that she's beautiful.

1:02:04With me, Alex. And tell her that you've seen her wild side. Where we do our makeup together, have some fun, have some good girl chat. So our guest today is a comedian, a host, an actress, a writer, and she's possibly Taylor Swift's biggest fan. Please welcome. And what am I saying? Is it me? Literally the top comment, Claudia? Say, is it me? Two question marks. I feel like that really connotes the level of questioning we're going for.

1:02:33Kim Kardashian:if it's turdy i will die please let it be claudia tell me it's turdy claudia oh my god claudia

1:02:40Claudia Oshry:claudia i if it's claudia i swear to god jackie everybody thinks that it's me that's so great and i'm sure alex is seeing that and it's like oh maybe that's giving her the idea just like craig

1:02:50Kim Kardashian:now has the idea to date kelsey ballerini please be turdy lou freebush turdy oh my god claudia claudia i'm so hyped please be claudia are you a girly swirly are there any comments guessing Nikki uh yeah like three but more guessing you more oh way more is it you did you go on get real tune in to find out you guys wow well anyways I think it's Nikki it is it's not me and

1:03:22Claudia Oshry:she shared a story about Leonardo DiCaprio how he was the only one to respond to her golden globes flowers that's really cute um he sent her three boxes of pasta because of the joke that she shared about how nobody knows anything about him but actually in 1999 he did an interview with 1991 he did an interview with tiger boot sharing that his favorite food was pasta pasta and more pasta that's really fucking funny so he said the three boxes of pasta and she said it was We're pasta, pasta, and pasta. She said it was so funny and so good. And part of me was like, does Leah want to smash?

1:04:02Kim Kardashian:She's so funny. She's seriously so funny. And she slays this hosting award show that like jobs so well. And the fact that everybody likes her, like Leonardo's joking back with her. Like she's just really assuring that she's going to have this job for the next at least five years. Yeah. But then she said the type of girl he goes for, he wouldn't send pasta to. so fucking true she's so fucking funny then she said it was dry pasta i think the company was mena pasta spaghettios maybe i would have been more his type a crib full of dunkaroos and go-gurt i would have been like oh he's into me she seriously can't help herself she's so funny she's so funny give her all the hosting jobs yeah yeah just hysterical stuff hysterical stuff oh and

1:04:48Claudia Oshry:on Licks vs. Lex, she did say that she is Team Alex.

1:04:55Aladin. That's funny. I didn't see her say that. That's really funny. Yeah, she did say, and she made it known that she's Team Alex. I just want to say, I am also Team Alex. Yeah, I think that's the right team to be on. I thought about it a lot. It feels right. You know, you have to go with your gut and your conscience

1:05:14Claudia Oshry:too. You have to sleep at night. Of course. Our fifth and final story is finally making the fast five because there was no other fifth and final story. Kylie wants to sell Cody to Jeff Bezos. No, no. I moved on from that. It's that Lewis Hamilton and Kim Kardashian are getting handsy in a PDA packed beach date. So Lewis Hamilton and Kim Kardashian are dating out and about showing us their relationship. They went to Nobu. They couldn't keep their hands off each other as they took a dip in the ocean in Malibu. plenty of photos of them which like in another world like him and a man on the beach like touchy feely we'd be gagged um if i had a heart rate monitor on like the person monitoring it would think i was dead like that's how little i care but that's how little news there has to be for us to give these to finally day and it's like you know what maybe you should get your ass off the

1:06:06Kim Kardashian:beach and go to the get real with hulu event because that's where things are actually happening that's where your sister is like putting in the work like maybe show up to the get real hulu event

1:06:15Claudia Oshry:with Lewis Hamilton and I'll care. And then I'll care. Maybe. Still a maybe. No, I would care. But they are like frolicking on the beach, laughing. They're like literally in a full blown, like they're in love, which is all I've ever wanted for Kim, like since Kanye and Pete. Going to the beach on a date is like, means that you're at a really like. Intimate place.

1:06:42Kim Kardashian:Comfortable. Yeah, because bitch is where you're totally stripped down. Obviously, like your body, but also makeup.

1:06:47Jackie Oshry:And, you know, you don't let someone see that until you're already married. And like when you get rocked by a wave, like that's that's your lowest, most vulnerable point. That is the truest thing you've ever said.

1:07:00Kim Kardashian:Like there is nothing more ugly than getting hit by a wave. Like you just lose all sense of confidence and like control. And you just look like a slob. Like a wet rag.

1:07:15Claudia Oshry:And they were doing. Actually the funniest thing you've ever said. Thank you so much. They were also doing surfing. So they were like encountering and embracing big waves.

1:07:24Kim Kardashian:And have you ever seen somebody surf like unsuccessfully? It's extremely unattractive. Yeah.

1:07:29Claudia Oshry:It's very humbling. So this speaks well of the level of comfortability in their relationship. Like she can be herself. And they're like hugging and kissing in the waves. Like that's real love. 100 % that's right I love yeah and also

1:07:44Kim Kardashian:at least with me when I'm in the ocean like my nose runs a lot it's just like it's really unattractive oh yeah and I always have to hold my nose when I go under which is super cool like I said unattractive which is a super cool thing to do now not to keep bringing this up but like we did record basically two episodes I have to pee yeah so bad we've been sitting here for three hours so I am gonna wrap up please do by all means oh I have a new wrap up I forgot thank you guys so much for listening to The Toast the millennium morning show where we deliver of the Fast Five Stories every Monday through Friday on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts.

1:08:16Kim Kardashian:The place looks great. Well, it always does. Thank you. Love you. Bye.

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