In short
The Toast’s Friday episode mixes a butterfly-release “hostage” ceremony, weekend lifestyle talk, and the Fast Five news roundup (plus ads). They celebrate freeing butterflies as a cathartic, ethical, animal-friendly ritual marking mid-summer, with one “casualty” (a dead butterfly left on a leaf). They also discuss new music, TV viewing (House of S— on Hulu/Prime access issues), hair/massage preferences, and podcasting culture.
Guests
No podcast guests appear in the transcript. The hosts are Toast regulars: Jackson Claude and Claudia (plus mentions of Zach Shapiro, Ben, and “miss margo” for a vlog).
Key claims
Alex Earl’s Netflix reality show trailer (Earle Meets World) promises chaos, blended-family drama, and references to Alex Cooper; Bethany Frankel’s Hamptons Supermodel Cafe is a smart pop-up powered by Goldberg’s; Love Island’s Taylor and Clark split amid cheating rumors; Forbes’ 2026 highest-paid podcasters list puts Joe Rogan #1 ($82M) and Giggly Squad in the top 20 ($18M).
Notable examples
Kelly Clarkson and Ellie Goulding music; Bethany Frankel’s “supermodel snack” cottage cheese/rice cakes; Love Island USA couple Taylor/Clark; Forbes top-20 names (Ashley Flowers, Mel Robbins, Alex Cooper, Armchair Expert, Giggly Squad).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOReleasing Butterflies Ceremony
0:45 to 2:36
Hosts share their experience of releasing butterflies and the emotional significance behind it.
“And our resident animal rights activist, were you pleased with everything?”
Reflecting on Summer's Passage
2:36 to 4:14
Discussion on the significance of time passing during summer and their shared experiences.
“You had to be there for them living on our dining table for the last few weeks.”
Driving and Music
4:14 to 5:36
Hosts share their driving experiences and discuss new music they enjoy.
Pop Culture and Taylor's Impact
5:36 to 6:59
Hosts discuss pop culture, Taylor's influence, and their opinions on current events.
“I know it's the bubonic theme plague, but Blake Lively's bubonic theme, bubonic plague of our time.”
Massages and Self-Care
6:59 to 9:08
Conversation about the hosts' experiences with massages and self-care practices.
“Obviously, like, you guys know I was deeply uncomfortable physically being in that.”
Preparing for Fast Five
9:08 to 12:37
Hosts prepare to transition into their Fast Five stories, discussing their planning process.
“And don't you feel like that counts as like three washes?”
Preparing for Fast Five
12:42 to 13:56
Hosts prepare to transition into their Fast Five stories, discussing their planning process.
“Everything that you see here is Wayfair.”
Preparing for Fast Five
13:58 to 15:21
Hosts prepare to transition into their Fast Five stories, discussing their planning process.
“Have you ever opened the fridge, stared into it for five minutes, and somehow convinced yourself that there's nothing to eat?”
Preparing for Fast Five
15:38 to 16:46
Hosts prepare to transition into their Fast Five stories, discussing their planning process.
“With thousands of on-demand workouts ranging from 5 to 60 minutes, Obey helps members build strength, stay consistent, and move their bodies.”
Preparing for Fast Five
17:03 to 18:25
Hosts prepare to transition into their Fast Five stories, discussing their planning process.
“Millennial motherhood made me rethink a lot of things that we're putting into our bodies.”
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Alex Earl's Netflix Reality Show Trailer
18:26 to 22:19
Discuss the insights from the trailer of Alex Earl's new show and its implications.
“Alex Earl is ready to reveal her chaotic life on her Netflix reality show.”
Bethany Frankel's Supermodel Cafe Launch
22:20 to 24:29
Explore Bethany Frankel's new pop-up cafe and its connection to her viral recipes.
“Like, so, yeah, she, if anyone can do it, it's her.”
Diet Culture Insights and Snack Trends
24:30 to 28:00
Delve into the complexities of diet culture through Bethany's approach to healthy eating.
“She started a new name for talking about diet food.”
The Duality of Eating and Being Skinny
28:00 to 28:32
Exploring the balance between enjoying food and maintaining a slim figure.
Taylor and Clark's Breakup Shocks
28:32 to 30:28
Discussion of the breakup between Taylor and Clark from Love Island amid rumors.
“I also feel like there's much more to it.”
The Dynamics of Online Reactions
30:28 to 32:25
Examining the backlash and accusations surrounding their breakup.
“I know you don't know because like you're not chronically online but like I wish I could tell you like how bent out of shape people are about it.”
Podcaster Earnings and Industry Insights
32:25 to 40:52
Reviewing the latest list of highest-paid podcasters and their earnings.
“No, but like if you really loved Alandria, like you wouldn't want Nicolandria for her.”
Morbid Discussions in Media
42:00 to 42:40
Explore the complexities of media deals and content strategies.
“Like, we know that New Heights went to prime for X amount.”
Morbid Discussions in Media
44:06 to 45:35
Explore the complexities of media deals and content strategies.
“They were the first brand to bring avocado oil to sauces and condiments, and they are now the fastest growing salad dressing brand in the US.”
Juliana Rancic's Relationship Story
47:06 to 49:59
Hear the details of Juliana Rancic's breakup with Jerry O'Connell.
“She literally is the reason they broke up.”
LeBron James and the 76ers Documentary
50:00 to 55:04
Discuss the implications of LeBron James living in New York while playing in Philadelphia.
“I feel like she just like felt like this is very real for her.”
Final Segment: Queenie and Weenie
55:05 to 56:00
Join in for the weekly awards of Queenie and Weenie of the week.
“But we have six, literally six years since his last championship.”
Celebrating Queenie of the Week: Paige Lawrence
56:00 to 56:39
The hosts discuss their choice for 'Queenie of the Week,' Paige Lawrence, highlighting her recent successes and public presence.
“And I think she's like Queenie probably like two and a half weeks running, given like the wedding and then the clapbacks.”
Alandria's Weenie Week: Reflections on Performance
56:40 to 57:16
The conversation shifts to the 'Weenie of the Week,' discussing Alandria's recent behavior and public image.
Defending Beauty Standards and Criticism
57:17 to 58:28
Hosts reflect on personal criticism related to their appearances post-baby, defending their beauty and addressing societal expectations.
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:03Good morning, girlies. It's the toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show. The fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. welcome back to the toast and happy friday that's right pat yourself on the back we did it ready for another swirly summer weekend hey jackson you're darn i'm darn good it's a beautiful day it actually is a beautiful day both in spirit and in physicality because it's gorgeous out but we also we did something quite beautiful and cathartic this morning something very spiritual and i actually think our outfits sort of embody 1000 what we did this morning very ethereal very freeing born yes life the official releasing of the hostages was this morning we got gave the butterflies their freedom we had like a beautiful little ceremony in the driveway zach made a speech that like legit almost brought me to tears he was like he was joking but i was like wait that's so beautiful he was like talking to the butterflies like wishing them luck on their journey and letting them know like this is always their home oh my god i literally got like choked That was so sweet.
1:16And one by one, they flew the coop. And it was really, it was beautiful.
1:20Claudia Oshry:Yeah, it was. And our resident animal rights activist, were you pleased with everything? Was it up to code? I mean, we did lose one. We knew that there's been this dead one, but it keeps moving a little bit. So we didn't know if we should throw it out or whatever. It was the last to leave because it's dead. And then Zach just sort of picked it up and left it on a leaf. But it's still moving a little bit. So we're just giving it space. Yeah, give it space. Maybe it can heal itself. And I think that's really good is that we only had one casualty. Some people said they've done it and they've gotten no butterflies.
1:52Claudia Oshry:Yeah. And I was like, yeah, he's wounded. Yeah. He has a boo-boo. Yes. It was really amazing. I've linked it a couple of times on my stories, but you should definitely do it. It's been like a great part of our summer. I said to Claudia, it really marks, I would say, the middle of swirly summer. And today is the last day of July. It's true. And we started this project at the beginning of summer. and it really just marks this passage of time. And I think the passage of time has been significant. It's kind of like visiting day at camp. Like you knew the summer was half over when your parents came to visit.
2:22Claudia Oshry:Yeah. And Zach said like he wanted to do it again because like the Shapiros are coming and they would like it. But I don't even know if we have enough time because it actually took three plus weeks. And I'm genuinely sorry to the Shapiros, but like you just had to be there. Like you had to be there. We can't recreate it. And you also like had to be there. That's what you get. You had to be there for them living on our dining table for the last few weeks. Correct. I'm excited to get the dining room table back. Yeah. So much more space for activities. Yes, me as well. Can't recommend enough. It was really beautiful.
2:47Claudia Oshry:And I think it was completely animal friendly. I agree. No, all in all, they ended up free. And I personally love to see animals being released from captivity. That is one of my jobs, like one of the goals with my job. So I was thrilled to see that they almost all made it successfully. And it was beautiful. And the kids loved it. It was so sweet. And we had like a very ethical and safe. Oh, for sure. Environment for them. Definitely ethical. Yeah.
3:14Jackie Oshry:No one could accuse us of being otherwise. So that was a really great way to start the day, I would say. It was. Just like with this sort of message of freedom. We continued with the Pardgy vibes. We drove together again. We did because we're filming a vlog after this. And I just feel like. And we can't film the vlog separately. It means you love driving with me. We're having fun. I have no complaints. That's so sweet. No complaints. And some days I just want to like cruise. And some days I just like to be a passenger princess. We listen to new music. And I actually don't drive a lot. Like I've always been the sister who like drives because none of you guys learned how to drive until you were 30.
3:47And I did when I was 18 just because like Ben taught me. But I'm always being driven by Ben. So I actually don't even drive that much. Yeah. We had like a nice time jamming out. It was lovely listening to new music Friday. New Kelly Clarkson music. Yeah. I'd be lying. New Ellie Goulding. New Ellie Goulding Four Seasons. I feel like Kelly Clarkson might have a boyfriend. Like she is notorious for writing her own music. She even writes for others. So the last time we heard from her was her divorce album.
4:09Jackie Oshry:lamentations like talking about like a guy she can't stop thinking about but then the last song she put out was about Meryl Streep and Martin Short like where have you been yeah but so she told us that it was like she was seeking inspiration from others this time it's like the song just came out like I feel like she's self-referencing I feel like she's self-referencing okay you could like feel the the personal nature of the song like who are we shipping Kelly with these days there's literally nobody on earth good enough you know who she needs like not him because obviously he's very happily married but like the vibe of like Peter Herman yes but I think she also needs a
4:37Claudia Oshry:commoner like yeah with a what about like a commoner in the industry even though that is what she had last time i think like a true commoner with like a very good job so that he's not like threatened by her like level of wealth yeah a nerd yeah someone who cusses a little yeah i like that that's what i think um what else did i want to tell you oh and then we're filming our vlog today with miss margo so that's also why we came to town we journeyed together yeah we journey fretted I had something I wanted to say
5:07Jackie Oshry:I just can't remember oh I tried to watch House of Stasi last night I couldn't get into my Hulu so I will be watching it this weekend but I just want to say like I'm seeing a lot of positive response even someone here was saying that they watch and they're like we're obsessed with Taylor and it's like I've literally been trying to tell you guys this I do feel that she will be the breakout star I just want like I told you first I told you so yeah we know did you see that they had a Halloween party the theme is like so Stasi bubonic plague I saw and Taylor dressed up as Blake Lively and she was like, I know it's the bubonic theme plague, but Blake Lively's bubonic theme, bubonic plague of our time.
5:41Now, even though I don't agree with that, it's a funny joke. It is. She's going viral for that. I'm really excited for her. Like, it's about time.
5:46Claudia Oshry:Yeah. It's about time people talk. I don't know if the owner is logged into Hulu. So if he is. The owner was not logged into Hulu and you know we all use Zach Shapiro's Hulu. So it's just been like a very trying time. If he's logged in, I can watch House of Sazi. If he's not logged in, I can. I can only watch Amazon Prime. I also don't know if like, I'm really capable of not to make everything about me. I just don't really know if I'm capable of giving like an accurate recap. One, because I'm clearly so biased. And two, like I'm not willing to change those biases. Like I love Taylor Schrecker.
6:16Like I will never see any fault in anything she did. Agreed. And I loathe with my entire being Katie Maloney. And those two things are just like facts of life. They're not like open to changing. Right. So like, yeah, I can watch and give a recap, but don't expect to hear anything besides that. And like what if objectively, even though I don't, I couldn't see how it's possible. happen but like what if like katie maloney's like making fire points against taylor strecker she's definitely not but like what if yeah it's just i will never i'm just there are two different types of people you're too close to it you're either katie maloney or attorney loo like you cannot be both you're too close to it i am i think not to be annoying like i was supposed to be in the video you know when i was filming math singer i was like trying to i was gonna like weasel my way and she was having a halloween party and i was like gonna make myself you know but a key cameo you couldn't even make it i couldn't hack it yeah i didn't make it to halloween maybe season two Queen Corgi.
7:00I would have showed up as Queen Corgi. I love, I miss Queen Corgi. I don't. I know. In a physical sense. Obviously, like, you guys know I was deeply uncomfortable physically being in that. But I guess, like, in an emotional sense. No, I also don't miss her. But we will always have. They should have given me, like, her head. I know they keep them in a museum because they are, like, thousands of dollars. But they should be on the set, like, right here. Yeah. They should. They should. Yeah.
7:30Claudia Oshry:I modged with Ben yesterday we played Siamese I don't even know if you like caught that because like I didn't when did you guys play you were so slick with it where did I go after in the afternoon or in the night in the afternoon where was I where was I oh you went to the spa I did go to the spa I got a gift card for my birthday and I was like you know what to a local spa which was such a thoughtful gift so I went yeah I got a massage oh I went to music class and then when I came home like Ben was in the living room and I was in the living room and I was like Siamese and we just like got in a couple rounds best of three that's nice and i got my fix and that was it then i had to like go to petco for bruno bruno's become such a liability but we're working through it yeah we are he's on like a strict schedule now he's just sort of been like loosey-goosey summer yeah eating this we all have doing that and now it's boot camp for bruno it's my part in my hair like straight or is it like it's not for cock but it's not straight so like yeah like drag your finger okay it feels like and not you know I love like a it's not like oh my god you are always setting me up like like no no you should have gone the other way from the back my rat tail like call magnolia okay oh my god magnolia is here magnolia is here which means miss margo's here which is so exciting look at me oh my god it's worse than ever drag from the back to the front who does that I don't
8:56Jackie Oshry:it's pretty good like I I can tell like the earth feels off balance if my part is not like dead set maybe that's better yeah my hair is so oily I've gotten into like a really lazy place here where I'm washing my hair like maximum twice a week maximum maximum maxwell and it's not good twice a week is good well one of the times that I wash them is at the salon because I've been getting weekly blowouts and I feel like that's like a major wash To the salon. Literally. And don't you feel like that counts as like three washes? They do wash it twice, but it's just such a deep bleed. Yes, it is. It will always be one of the great joys of my life, getting my scalp like scratched at the salon.
9:36Yeah. It's such a good feeling. That is a good feeling. Sometimes they're not going hard enough. I'm just like, you're going to make me bleed.
9:41Claudia Oshry:Yeah, that's where I can take it. Actually, when I get massages, I'm always like very gentle. I do not like deep tissue. I do not. No, same. I got a massage. Well, I got a manicure yesterday. And like every time I go, they like offer one. But I'm like, no, it hurts too much. I'm very sensitive. But I really needed to be like massage. So I was like, I'll sit through it. And I'm like, and he's like, and the guy goes, no pain, no gain. That's not true of a massage. No, no. Especially a nail salon massage. It's just like a way to passively pass the time. A massage is meant to be like relaxing. It's not meant to be painful.
10:07Some people find the pain like good. This isn't physical therapy. No, correct. No pain, no gain. No, I love like a really, I always say like I like to relax. I want to fall asleep. Like you can't fall asleep if you're being needed like a piece of bread. But when it comes to the scalp, I want you to make me bleed. I know. My scalp can take a lot. I love a scalp massage. Otherwise, though, I am very tender. But there are a lot of people when they get a massage, they skip the scalp. Like it's not a universal thing that everyone likes. I always say like you can skip my back. Oh, I say. I want my scalp.
10:35You can skip my legs. You can skip my legs. Because I also probably haven't shaved them and that's not nice.
10:40Claudia Oshry:Like you can skip my legs. I say you can use them as like as a connecting point. Don't just like go completely. Of course. Like go down the leg. But yeah. Move along. No, I think that like. Give it to the scalp and the feet. The scalp massage? The scalp and the feet. Yeah. And actually sometimes, like a couple of times, weirdly, I've actually gotten a massage and I've only asked for scalp and feet because I have a spray tan. Like I remember I was on vacation once, like at a wedding weekend. And I like had a spray tan for all the festivities, but this hotel had an amazing spot. So I literally went in and I paid for a full massage and I was like, just fuck up my scalp and my feet.
11:11And honestly, it was one of the best massages I've ever had. I should try that. Yeah, you should. I also don't love being on my stomach portion of the massage. I always like turn around with a stuffy nose.
11:19Claudia Oshry:I don't like the flip. Like I don't care which side I'm on. The flip is deeply humiliating. And it's like that I was just getting in the zone. Actually, I didn't love it. I got a bunch when I was pregnant of prenatal massages. Being on your side during a massage is like kind of nice. They can't like get like the full bod. If they give you the pillow, but I don't think they just like give out the pillow. Some. I remember a couple of places who like took their prenatal massages really seriously.
11:41Jackie Oshry:And like they had all the proper. I actually went to a place. With a hole in the belly. Me too. It was the St. Regis Bell Harbor with a hole in the, so you could be on your stomach. And let me tell you, I think I was actually moaning at certain points. It was amazing. That's beautiful. It was beautiful. Today's Friday. We've got lots of stories. We have Queenie and Weenie. We're going to attempt to do Queenie and Weenie. We're going to attempt. We actually have a lot of stories.
12:04Claudia Oshry:I haven't like whittled them down yet. I just like clicked everything that I like, but I think we probably have like eight. Maybe I'll like, maybe I'll bop around. Bop to the top, girlfriend. I'm just going to like everything that's like need to know. because I'm so sick of everyone being like, why didn't you talk about blah, blah, blah. I just feel like we talk about everything on the side. Like, what could we have missed? I know. But there were so many stories. I love that. It's so rare for a summer Friday. Yeah, it is. It's great. It's great. Let's be grateful. So I'm excited. Let's be grateful.
12:30Claudia Oshry:So without further ado to do, it is time for the Fast Five stories that you do need to know. And speaking of Kelly Clarkson, today's episode is brought to you by Wayfair. Your space should be like - This show is brought to you by Wayfair. It's true. Our chairs are Wayfair. Our rug is Wayfair. our side tables are. Everything that you see here is Wayfair.
12:47Jackie Oshry:Your space should feel like you. And if it doesn't, that's probably not a taste problem. It's a budget problem. And Wayfair can fix that. So sometimes your space before Wayfair, like let's take this space, for example, really beautiful, not our particular style. It took Jackie one afternoon, a couple of clicks and less than a week to completely transform a space just to be a little bit more our vibe, which is like cozy, neutral Hamptons. It was so easy shopping at Wayfair. As you guys know, you can sort through their website by size, by color, by budget. They have something for every budget. They have like super, super high end, like expensive, like$10 ,000 wallpaper, but also like the most affordable.
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18:24Claudia Oshry:Thank you, Slash Turt. Our first story, we've gotten a trailer from Earl Meets World. We have. Alex Earl is ready to reveal her chaotic life on her Netflix reality show. She says filming season one was insane. So for the trailer, she's like sitting doing hair and makeup saying like, get ready with me. Like narrating the trailer. And it's clearly like for the trailer, which is cute. Get ready with me while I tell you what I've been up to. She said filming season one of Earl Meets Earl was insane. Earl Meets Earl? What did I say? Earl Meets World. But what did I say? Earl Meets Earl. maybe she's meeting a long lost sister um so we are going to see lots about her blended family the whole family is in the trailer you know balancing her career they talk about Braxton she accuses her family of being team Braxton I mean he's a good guy like I could see them actually liking him and they all got really close to him I feel like annoyed that like I think a lot of hype and anticipation for her show is almost like boiled down to this Alex Cooper thing like my first thought was they didn't mention Alex Cooper in the trailer and I'm sure she doesn't want to at the end of the trailer she was like oh is there something I'm forgetting or like something like that like alluding to like a big thing so I feel like that's that now we know she is referenced like it is gonna be in the show right it is she's not she didn't give us anything we got a doubt she wants to make like the big trailer about Alex but right it's like annoying that it's just sort of boiled down to this.
19:49She sort of put a lot of pressure on it. She has, but I feel like she feels confident. In her side.
19:55Claudia Oshry:In her side and also like in her show. Yeah, I agree. I mean, it looks so good. Her family is inherently so interesting and I'm someone who like knew a decent amount about like the background and the blended family, but I didn't realize even more, like I didn't realize that the mom, that guy Todd is her mom's like boyfriend or husband. He's so hot and he's on the show too and he's like a star. Yeah, I'm not really like watching for Todd. I kind of am. That's what I'm saying. Like, because to me, like, the hero of this whole family and the glue is the mom. Like, her willingness to, like, put the kids first.
20:24Like, she's such a queen. She'll be rewarded in the afterlife for her time here on Earth. But it's nice to know, like, she was a hot man, too. Like, I didn't know that. Yeah. You know? Yeah. So it's easy to move on when, like, that's what your man looks like.
20:34Claudia Oshry:It'll be interesting because I do feel like as reality TV consumers, all of us, like, we have a high bar for, like, family shows, you know? We do. Netflix doesn't have a lot of family shows. And, like, a lot of family shows get started and they don't reach success. Even families who like have the makings,
20:49Jackie Oshry:a lot of families like we should have a reality show. But like a lot of them should. Like they have interesting people with interesting boyfriends and interesting lives and careers. But a lot of times, I don't know why, it's not a perfect formula. It's actually very hard to recreate. The Kardashians like did set an incredibly high standard. So this group, like they have what it takes. They have all the makings of it all. They're gorgeous. They've got drama. They've got history. So it should be good. Yeah. Like period. It should be good, period. Although Netflix reality is like not, I don't know why, like they don't slay.
21:16They do like those competition shows that people like, but they don't do like a lot of docuseries. A lot of these like stage like shots of Sunset, Selling Sunset, you know?
21:24Claudia Oshry:Yeah. But not that they can't. No, not that they can't. So I think they make everything really premium. I'm not worried. The premiere date is September 4th. I think that's what I said. Not too far, you know? That's so close. Just like a couple more weeks into swirly summer and then we'll have like all of Labor Day weekend to watch and then we can recap. Yeah. I wonder how it's being released. like maybe like three at a time I feel like it will be episodic that's so annoying yeah and it won't be Cooper in the first that's so well they know that they have this thing I know that like everyone's really tuning in to find out even though I do feel it's been diffused like I don't this I was the lead reporter on it and like I kind of don't care anymore um but I would like to hear what she has to say yeah so that like everyone will watch yes which is good because sometimes you make a really good show but like if people don't watch then no one will ever know so this way if it's good everyone has to watch yeah that's good yeah we'll see i think it'll be great and the trailer has been very well received online yeah yeah exciting yeah our next story some more viral news bethany frankel is launching supermodel cafe inspired by her viral social media recipes so bethany funny like she just like makes like some influencer launching a brand like would not make the news people are upset both positive and negative she's so polarizing like i saw this
22:45Jackie Oshry:everywhere and it's like not that crazy she's not even launching a brand she's opening a pop-up in
22:50Claudia Oshry:the hamptons it's a supermodel cafe as it's called filled with like her viral recipes you know she's always making like bits and healthy she calls it a supermodel snack like here's how she like everything is the og cottage cheese and rice cakes and everything with the bagel seasoning She is OG, like pre-ozempic, diet girly, you know, using lettuce as bread and cream cheese as salad dressing. Like, so, yeah, she, if anyone can do it, it's her. Yes. It's also powered by Goldberg's. Yes, which is a local chain of bagel places here in the Hamptons. So it's not like she had to, like, get a kitchen and everything.
23:21Claudia Oshry:Like, she's giving them her recipes. They're getting it up and running. It's really brilliant. She's obviously, like, a fixture in the Hamptons. And also in the natural food space. In the natural food space. In the food space. Yeah. Even like the chicken salad and in the Hamptons food space. She makes so many things like so viral. So like this is so, duh.
23:38Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I don't think it's like a huge money maker for her, like a pop up.
23:41Claudia Oshry:No, but it's like a great thing for her brand. And like say it does well, which I expect that it will. She can pop up elsewhere. This is something she could do for like a long time in terms of like, let's pop up in LA. Let's pop up in Miami. Yeah, I do feel like confused. What is her status with the Skinny Girl brand? Like because she's like sold the liquor portion. Skinny Girl Cafe. Right. She sold the liquor portion, so she has nothing to do with that anymore. But like we eat their popcorn. It's so good. I believe the food, the salad dressing, she's like promoting it a lot. She is still somewhat involved.
24:12And I know she has a lot of, I think, like non-competes, which is why she hasn't done anything in the food space since then. So I'm curious how this. No, and also if she was very much involved in Skinny Girl, then this would be Skinny Girl Cafe and these would be Skinny Girl snacks. What is the remainder of her relationship with Skinny Girl?
24:27Claudia Oshry:No, no, I don't know. But like if you think about it, when she was like, I'm going to brand my segment of my podcast. She's starting a new thing. She started a new name for talking about diet food. Yeah, Supermodel Snack. Which is great. Skinny Girl is also a great name. But she consciously did not call them Skinny Girl Snacks. No, I know. Well, I don't think she can. Or she wants to create equity in a new brand. Yeah, yeah. Which is so Bethany creating equity. Yeah, which is smart. She already sold her equity. The equity for her and Skinny Girl is out the door. so you don't need to build it up really more.
24:58Continue, yeah. Should we go? Of course. Where is it? Quag. Okay, let's go. We'll go. And like, can we cut the line? Yeah, is there like an influencer special line? Is there a special line for influencers? Is there an influencer special? There's going to be a long line. I'm so glad, I saw there was an article in the cut about this, like about how everything in New York is a line. And it's just like, it's not even for something crazy. like it's just for like a pancake or a bagel I am allergic to standing in line like you could tell me that there's a winning lottery ticket I just have to wait in line of like 20 people well I'll just have to keep working like I am allergic to lines I hate fucking standing in line I also think there's something deeply humiliating about standing in a line yeah and I think like what it says about you is negative like I just I hate lines and I we need to have like a a conversation about line culture in New York it's there's a line on and it used to be like you would see people lining up and you think i wonder what this is for it was always something like big now i'm like oh you're all idiots i don't even care it used to be just like the iphone that's what people would line up for or the cronut right it was like a once in a lifetime big thing now it's every day like some viral i guess it's because of like the viralness so it's like there's a surge
26:13Claudia Oshry:in demand on the same day because it went viral and that's the internet it's not like really it's born of the internet yeah it's one of my least favorite things about living in new york honestly The lines. I can't take it. I cannot take it. And I won't participate in line culture either. Okay. So we'll cut the line. Or I'll go stand for you. And I'll let you know when to get out of the car. Yeah. Just let me know where the influencer line is. Or if there's like a friends and family and influencer tasting. Yeah. Like what about like podcast Bethany has been online? Yeah. You have one of those? Of course we're going.
26:44I'm so excited. Road trip. Like whenever she. Vlog. I just want to say almost all the shit she eats is inedible to me. Like you guys know how I eat. oh like her wraps of like turkey and chicken salad like i could throw up yeah i always see
26:59Claudia Oshry:her snacks i'm like oh that looks really good i want to try that i don't eat like turkey or chicken but um i want to try some like you know cottage cheese on a rice cake ben should come too he would love it absolutely we're vlogging and olivia oh we should wait for olivia to get her she actually she is the same like um category of eater as bethany yeah like put it on a rice cake make Make sure it has Greek yogurt and cottage cheese and sesame seeds. And make sure it tastes disgusting. And we'll give you diarrhea. We'll all go together. That's actually a really fun afternoon. Yeah. Love that. No, I think it's really smart.
27:31I'm excited for her. Yeah. I wonder if it's successful if she has plans to go into a line for the grocery store. Because I think she's selling healthy bagels, which is a pretty good category. There are a couple. I used to eat them when I was really nutty. The Better Bagel, I think it was called. Yeah. They're actually pretty good. so that would be good and then like spreads they look like pre-made they could sell them at grocery stores yeah which is crazy because that skinny girl and then she just did it again then she did it again yeah well it is what she's passionate about like being skinny it's a good passion yeah of course worthwhile being skinny
28:05Claudia Oshry:and also like eating as much as you can while being skinny some people can be skinny without eating without thinking about it yeah like eating is just a means to live it's not something and then some people like just love food and Bethany's one of those people who like loves food but also loves being skinny and like she needs to hold space for both yeah so that's exciting it is our next story taylor no longer picks clark oh my god this is actually like to me the way people were shocked well not people like the delusionals about nickelandria like this is that that's surprising to me taylor and clark from love island usa last season have made the quote difficult decision to part ways amid cheating rumors that's very much unfounded but like he was spotted with like another girl a couple weeks ago but they could have been broken up a couple weeks ago plus she went on her girls trip that's giving break break up is i think that also um a storyline on beyond the villa is that they were having issues just because taylor was like true to himself he is a farm country where he does not want to change his lifestyle he wants to continue to be a farmer and a cowboy and clark has like you know gotten a taste for that she wants to go to la and like do brand deals so they just have like different visions for the future and that will that's actually a very good reason to break up it is but that makes me sad like she's choosing LA over Taylor.
29:17Claudia Oshry:But you know what? I also feel like there's much more to it. And if there was infidelity or a lack of trust, then you've got to go. The timing is curious because for those who don't know, like Taylor and Clark, this random couple from Love Island last season, are actually inextricably linked to Olandria. Olandria and Taylor were together the whole season, even though like we knew he didn't like her. He found someone at Casa he really liked. He became like the total villain for leaving Olandria. But him and this girl Clark were like so in love. and they've been together ever since in a real way not if you watch the season it's casey and tt exactly and then anaya and carl would be the nicolandria and so i'm actually shocked that they broke up but the timing is very weird because of nicolandria the same week or that just speaks to like when nicolandria ran the numbers of when a couple from love island should break up stats they learned that it is about a year later also tiller and clark might have already been broken up and people close to them might have already known that before nicolandia decided to sever business ties before nicolandia decided to sunset i was i just want to say i'm like upset by this i i actually believed in their love of course and you can believe in their love couples break up they're very young no and breaking up doesn't mean it was a fake relationship for nicolandia incorporated yeah no but these two were real breaking up of nicolandia is doesn't mean that it was a fake relationship.
30:41Claudia Oshry:It just was a fake relationship. Oh my God. I know you don't know because like you're not chronically online but like I wish I could tell you like how bent out of shape people are about it. It started to trickle down. My comment section is like are you guys going to speak out? Like are you going to talk about like the hate your like the backlash? Like are you going to apologize? I've seen a couple comments on my Instagram from clearly like Nicolandria scans who have migrated over to Instagram and like sought me out. Yeah. And they're being very unkind. they're being very unkind. I know. And like their biggest accusation, they're calling us racist, which like, it's just not like, it's not that it's actually, it's actually offensive to actual racism to say that.
31:20It's true.
31:21Claudia Oshry:It is like, it's absurd. Also, it's frustrating because they think that we're hating on Alandria when like, they don't know you haven't been here. And I hate to be like, you know, context, but like you haven't like, you have to listen to everything that we have said about her. Including our like live recaps last season, because we don't hate Alandria and we never did. No, And we always wanted better for her than Taylor, than Nick. What are you guys talking about? Like, yeah. And she literally admitted herself on the show that, like, there isn't a connection between her and Nick. And they, as of, you know, two seconds before their breakup, there weren't even technically boyfriend and girlfriend.
31:52Like, genuinely, and I'm not trying to, like, make you guys more angry to our, like, Nicolandre haters, but how genuinely not smart are you? Like, you're dumb. Well, if you fell for Nicolandre, then. That's what I'm saying. But, like, now you're coming for us. When, like, you know, you got got, you got hoodwinked, and you should just, like, kind of sunset that.
32:08Claudia Oshry:But what's crazy is both those people and us are coming from a place of love for Alandria. We're showing it in different ways. And like I think we love her more because we want better for her. And we've always wanted better for her. The denial phase. We've moved on to like whatever the 11, 12 steps are. They're still in denial. Next comes anger. No, but like if you really loved Alandria, like you wouldn't want Nicolandria for her. You wouldn't want Nic for her. And like I think we love her more actually than you. I would say you don't like her. we absolutely love Olandria more than our detractors do now put that in a clip and post it like it's called it's tough love I would give tough love to like a person that I'm close to and that I love I wouldn't be like oh yeah your terrible boyfriend is great do you like that because you've been commenting that I keep saying put that in your pipe and smoke it what about put that in your clip and post it for sure but like we do that like you're talking to us I guess I've technically talked to the social media team like put that in your clip and post it if we want to go back there if we want to go back there.
33:08Claudia Oshry:Let's see what else. It's a big if. What other conversations emerged today. Oh, our next story is some exciting news. It's our fourth story, but we're going to do six stories today. Yeah. I just like don't want to get stopped in the middle of our role. Major podcasting news. Forbes released the highest paid podcasters of 2026. And I will say, I felt that the list was only interesting because it's the same group of people always, but Giggly Squad, like cracking the top 20, I feel like that's the big change. They're sort of like, coming up from behind and slaying. Yeah. So here's the top 20. Like most of these seem pretty obvious.
33:43Claudia Oshry:It's crazy that some of these people have never heard of their show. Also what's crazy is that like I feel like we talk about it here all the time. Like we're always talking about like the biggest female podcaster. We're always talking about who. And just as for Ashley Flowers because nobody ever says it's her but like it's her by a mile. Ashley Flowers moves in silence. She does. She's actually smart. Yeah, she is. She's not going to get robbed. Well, after this list. Yeah. Joe Rogan is number one. $82 million. and this is earned this year so even if he had a hundred like well at this point it'd be a 200 million dollar deal for three years or whatever like 82 million dollars this year john coogan and jordie hayes host a podcast called tpbn it's a finance podcast i guess i've never heard of it what does tpbn stand for um i don't know oh my that's crazy they're number two at 70 million tpbn oh my god like what are the odds that i haven't heard of something like I know.
34:35I think that's crazy. Another two moving in silence. Totally. Did you find it? Technology Business Programming Network. That sounds fake. That sounds fake. Yeah. Okay, number three. Yeah. Stephen Bartlett, Diary of a CEO.
34:55Claudia Oshry:Classic. At 45 million. Number four, Ashley Flowers, Crime Junkie, 42 million. First woman. number five the smart list guys 37 million you have to divide that by three then like per like their show earned 37 million dollars this year they each took home a third of that i'm so glad we never invited olivia margaro to start the show without like three is so many people it is i already have a hard time like with you you know i know i'm like every day i often think about it what if i just did a show by myself like how could i change my lifestyle yeah every night in the same house sleeping with one eye open and then you'd have to do stories and ads it's oh my god so true we both earn our key number six mel robbins 35 million what people are not gonna like what i'm up to say but that's the grift of the motherfucking century like she literally came out of nowhere she does like fake self-help and like i actually i mean it's not a grift because the thing with podcasts is like you earn what you generate so it's like that many people are listening to your show you can't get these numbers without real listeners so like yeah i guess people are listening to mel robbins yeah maybe she's got one of the six women on the list classic cloud maybe she's like got something going over there like people just like you know think she all she is is like the let them theory or whatever but like maybe she's giving good advice over there because you really don't stay at the top you can like grift your way to a certain degree with a launch with a book with some good guests and then maybe like a network thinks is buying all that smoke and mirrors and like pays you a lot of money but like this is years long now i think she's the real deal like got the cream you're right number seven the kelsey brothers 35 $35 million.
36:26Claudia Oshry:Not surprising. Another two that have to split. Only two. Only two. And I think that if they were doing it solo, like it wouldn't be that big, you know? I think that's the truth of a lot of duos. You think it's true of us? Absolutely. I think so. I think so too. It's yin and yang. 1 ,000%. Number eight, Alex Cooper,$32 million. Famously does not have to split. No. She sort of solved that problem a few years ago. Number nine. And we know Alex Cooper has a huge deal. She's always on these lists. She's always on these lists. she had the like 150 million dollar series deal so this is like her year her annual split her paycheck number nine they're splitting it four ways pod save america 28 million dollars four what's 20 divided by four seven yes right yes yeah poor no kidding i'm kidding I'm kidding.
37:19I'm totally kidding. That's great. Congrats. I feel like there was a time and a place. I'm cracking up.
37:25Claudia Oshry:And also, is Pod Save America? No. Politics. But it's not New York Times. That's the daily. No, but there was a time where they were, like, this is not one of their big years. There was a time where, like, people were fucking obsessed with the show, where maybe if the list had come out, they would have been number one or two or three. So it's impressive. They've been there for a while. Number 10, Charlemagne at$27 million. Is that The Breakfast Club? The Breakfast Club, but it's just Charlemagne. Because he does multiple shows. And he doesn't own The Breakfast Club. That's like an iHeartRadio.
37:55It is. But he also has his own program. So maybe it's just him in general.
37:58Claudia Oshry:But maybe iHeartRadio pays up his contract to the tune of$27 million a year. Solo. Number 11, Dax Shepard, armchair expert,$25 million. Of course. 12, Amy Poehler,$24 million. Sleigh. Honestly, not her and her ex-husband being on the list. Yeah. That's crazy. And she makes more than him because she's a solo. True. 13, Bill Simmons,$22 million. Classic. 14, Jay Shetty,$21 million. He recently, like. Got a big deal. He's always been, like, a big podcaster. But he recently, like, leveled up. Well, he got, like, a$100 million deal I saw. From Netflix. And he's on Netflix now. Yep. And Spotify. Yeah.
38:33Claudia Oshry:So he has, like, two. And he's, like, getting insane guests, too. Yeah. Like, he woke up and decided, like, we're taking it to the next level. And he did. Yeah. And the next level was, like, coming through. Yeah. It was, like, nine figures. Yeah. 15. Joe Budden, the Joe Budden podcast, 20 million. I've never like seen Joe Budden's face, but like I know obviously his name because every time I see it, I think people are misspelling Joe Biden. And you know, he's huge in podcasting, like a trailblazer. Yeah. And you love to see people who have been doing it. You love to see the newcomers. But you love to see the people who have been doing it for so long, like still at the top.
39:03Staying on that list, being in like the same top 20, whether you're like number one or number 10 is beyond impressive. Yeah. 16, Tucker Carlson, 20 million dollars. 17, Your Boyfriend. my boyfriend wait hold on i don't think i'm not comelli as a podcast scott galloway 19 million one my toxic trade is i love scott galloway that's so funny i know 18 my boyfriend but you think harry jowsey's back he's on the list yeah andrew huberman oh you know he's also been he definitely fell off a little bit like with that scandal and like i think that his sort of extreme like wellness he was like a very much like a moment in time but he's still on the list that's really impressive 18 million dollars he should be kim's boyfriend do you see brian johnson the longevity king is like sort of backtracking his lifestyle choices he said i fear i've been thinking recently that i might have taken this too far interesting i also saw was he did he get sick he got sick or something yeah so that's not good that's really sad 19 oh dan katz and eric
40:02Claudia Oshry:sollenberger pardon my take barstool 18 million dollars oh wow barstool yeah that's pretty cool Yeah. And then 20 Hannah and Paige Giggly Squad,$18 million. It's actually insane that there's only six women on the list and there are two of them. There are 30 % of, 33 % of the women. Like that's sick. That is crazy. But do you think more men listen to podcasts in general than women? That's a good question. I don't know. I don't think so. I think that there are actually more female podcasters.
40:35Jackie Oshry:You think? I don't know.
40:36Claudia Oshry:No, I feel like it really started as sort of like a man space, but there's women. Well, it's very impressive because, like I said, it's the same 20 people usually. And Giggly Squad Cracking is major. Because you know what? You love to see a swirly show in the mix. Swirling it up. You do. You really do. I love lists. Exciting for the industry. There's a lot of money floating around. Is there anyone who you feel is noticeably absent from the list? I love that question. Not to point out. Let's go to the top charts. but it's also worth mentioning that you would have had to submit your financials which a lot of people don't want to in order to like be a contender although I think with some people like Joe Rogan I can't see him having agreed to submit any no but like it's known that his deal was what
41:18Jackie Oshry:it was right but like I think you have to submit a tax return I think or no I don't think so I
41:25Claudia Oshry:think if like they knew that Joe Rogan got 150 million dollar deal then it's 50 million dollars this year. Right, right. It is what it is. Anyone missing? I feel like it felt accurate. Theo Vaughn? Oh, yeah. People were saying like Conan. I don't think he was like snubbed or anything. I think he probably just generates. I just don't think he made it this year. I don't think he's far down. I don't think he generated more than$18 million. But Theo Vaughn is a very good call. And then like what about The Daily? How does that work? Because they're like employees. Because they're a media company. And they're employees of The New York Times.
41:57So yeah, the show isn't like. And also, they base these numbers based on deals. Like, we know that New Heights went to prime for X amount. New York Times sells their own ads. So, like, they don't get these types of deals because it's all done in-house. If I had to guess. Right. No, I agree with that. If I had to guess. No, I'm looking at the tops and, like, it does seem pretty morbid. What about morbid? Yeah, I get them confused with crime. I know.
42:25Claudia Oshry:Maybe they only, like, wanted to put one crime. But, like, money is money. Like if you made that much money. It's, it's a meritocracy. This list is a meritocracy. It is. But no. Exciting. Exciting stuff. Yes, it is. Are you ready for our fifth and not final story? If it's our fifth and not final, that's brought to you by Lululemon.
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47:11Claudia Oshry:rancic details her humiliating moment of relationship with x jerry o 'connell oh wow we're closing the circle on this the bill and juliana podcast dropped and she is sharing her side of their relationship that he mentioned on kelly ripa she said that she would be on her podcast unfuzzing his memory because he said his memory was a little fuzzy on the situation and she talks about how he broke up with her from a balcony so first she was saying that she was dating jerry o 'connell he like went off to shoot a movie and he was like spotted with his co-star Jerry from the Spice Girls like walking out of a restaurant holding hands.
47:46Jerry's always starting stuff. Don't you find? She literally is the reason they broke up.
47:49Claudia Oshry:And I love that Juliana named names. Yeah me too. Even though it's like it was so low stakes like it does it's 20 plus years ago. If you're going to tell us a story like tell us the story. Yeah. We need to name the characters. But it's not like she went like it's not like it was Jennifer Lopez and like now Juliana's like putting her on notice like low stakes. Agreed. She said she had called she said she texted what did she say she called Jerry and he wasn't picking up her calls he was like ghosting her and she said Jerry I'm gonna call the police like I'm really worried about you and he wrote back do not call the police he goes I just got back to LA I'm at my condominium he goes I'm fine I'm fine so I was like oh my god okay I write I'm coming over like I haven't seen you in like five days what's going on so I go over there and that's where this whole thing happened And he said that she was, she said he was standing on his balcony looking at her, saying he didn't want to see me in person.
48:41Claudia Oshry:He didn't have enough courage to come down and see me face to face, like a foot away, and instead did it from a balcony. He broke up with me from a balcony. And I honestly thought it was because he was just like over it, done. He was just like, bye. It was devastating, heartbreaking, humiliating. It was traumatizing. It truly was. And I just could not believe what I was hearing. They had been together for a year and a half. Oh, my God. Well, obviously, Jerry was inside. Yeah. Oh, you think? Jerry and Jerry. I'm just putting that together. Jerry and Jerry. Well, yeah. You don't let someone in, but you're talking to them through the.
49:11Like even if you wanted to break up with. Or someone inside. Even if you wanted to break up with her in like a rude and short way, like you could let her up. There was someone inside. There was someone there, obviously. The story is very inconvenient for me because it's in Congress with the Jerry that I know. It's like the Bravo loving dad. Yes. But I feel like.
49:27Claudia Oshry:People grow. People grow. And I don't know if he's like. I could see part of his schtick as having been like a recovered a-hole. Asshole, yeah. Someone who like got caught up in Hollywood for a minute. Yeah. And then became like humbled and lovely. Yeah, even like not in Hollywood. I think a lot of like grown men would say like they didn't act their best in certain relationships in their 20s. I'm like not going to hold it against Jerry. If I didn't like Jerry, I would hold it against him. But like I said, this is just extremely inconvenient for me as like a Jerry O 'Connell fan. No, and also like behavior from 20 plus years ago.
49:58Claudia Oshry:And she said like, you know, obviously it was for the best. Is her tone, like, is she mad? No. I feel like she just like felt like this is very real for her. This happened. If you're going to talk about it, like don't skim the surface because this is the truth. I guess he did bring it up. Yeah. She said. A year and a half. I do love that Jerry is an open book, even if his memory is a little fuzzy. I truly believe everything happens for a reason. We are both happily married now. We both have great families and we are both exactly where we're meant to be. So like that can be completely true. I don't think she's coming from a place of malice, but it's like, oh no, we're bringing this up let's let's yeah and I would normally say like get over it Juliana like it was 20 years ago but he did bring it up I don't think she's not like I feel like she no sometimes it's like hard to find fodder for your podcast no I feel like if someone was talking about you you have a podcast they're telling a story they're sort of contradicting what you've said historically like yeah clear the air yeah think about like what we would do of course I
50:52Jackie Oshry:would sit down and i would just tell my truth let it rip yeah let it rip are you ready for now thank you for closing the loop on that yes of course i had completely forgotten because i saw
51:02Claudia Oshry:clips of it and then i was like oh okay yeah here we go yeah um our next story i don't know if it's a story but you see uber this is actually like really huge news for slobs like me uber is being sued do you know that it's actually devastating you know when you get uber eats and like you do priority because you don't want your food dropped off before like yeah you're you are paying for
51:21Jackie Oshry:nothing the driver like doesn't know that you have priority sometimes uber will tell them like other orders to pick up before coming to you and they're actually being sued for not being like for false advertising good like stealing people's money good i have never maybe twice in my life have i done not priority of course and those two times were like the biggest regrets of my life so but apparently it's like it's literally for nothing oh yeah well good then yeah i'll keep you updated on that legal news please do um because that's so giving like fifth and final
51:48Claudia Oshry:Friday story no no no and this is like sixth and final but it was about the fact that LeBron James is like in a deal with ESPN they're about to close on doing like a last dance style documentary for his like next season or two seasons at the 76ers yes so I heard about this and I'm so glad you brought up LeBron because I wanted to say one other thing um did you also see that during his tenure on the Philadelphia 76ers he will be living in New York and commuting via helicopter I saw that that is a potential yes so i think that's insane um obviously for a couple of reasons like i'm sorry when you are like playing for a team like you have to live there like i just feel like that should be the rules two with this new pied-a-terre tax i don't know why lebron would now want to purchase a place in new york city like that's insane a second home well it would be his first if he's living there no i feel like his like like akron is his home you know like that's primary residence and two the helicopter yeah every day or like i feel like certain things even though I don't believe that helicopters are unsafe like we know that with Kobe like it was bad weather and they flew through it and they shouldn't have but I just feel that now everyone thinks about helicopters just a little bit differently because of that situation and so for you to like literally be doing what Kobe was doing and now you're going to be like doing it every single day like the over reliance yeah that's really crazy like all that just to not live in Philly Philly's a fine place and there's different vibes you can live in the city, you can live in the subway rooms you can get a farm like 30 minutes away you could go farm chamin yeah now back to the documentary thing don't you feel like and yes like the last dance like it needed to be recorded but don't you feel like it's like a little bit of a jinx oh like what if you have a flop season like you know tom brady's last or whatever i think aaron rogers when he did his right what if you tore your icula's heel yeah i guess it doesn't have to like come out you know but i guess now it's like being reported yeah i also feel like if i'm a philly fan i'm like you're literally coming here to use us talk about how big of losers we are and how you're gonna save us.
53:40Claudia Oshry:You won't even live here? No you won't live here. It's like someone's like I don't know. It's kind of like when Elle and Elle does the documentary of the homecoming and she's just like look at these sad people. I'm gonna bring them joy and it's like we're fine. I think though like if he does get them a championship like they won't really care. I agree. So if he doesn't they'll feel used and abused but if he does it's like okay whatever at least we got championship. Yeah. No this whole thing is like a little weird. And like to come into like a new locker room with a camera crew? No. But, like, you are LeBron.
54:09And I think, like, literally almost every NBA player who's actively playing, like, grew up obsessed. And sure, I'll be in your documentary. And, like, idolizing LeBron. It's like, sure, you want me to be naked? Like, sure, we can take a shower. It's true. It's true. I actually don't think that they care. They're actually a part of history.
54:23Claudia Oshry:Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. I think it's a jinx. Because, like, I don't know. LeBron just did go to the Lakers. And he sunk it up there. So it's not a guarantee that if you get LeBron. He didn't sink it up. He won the championship for them in 2020. 2020 yes that was six years ago per our fact checkers no he did but he went he got them a championship in his time there you don't win every year even when you're the goat fine fine that actually is fair I just think it's like not guaranteed that like I feel like for Tom Brady like it actually was guaranteed like if I'm on your team like we're winning like it just kind of was I feel like it's not the case for LeBron so it's it's like he's a 50 50 shot I think it's as much the case for LeBron going to the 76ers as it was for Tom going to the Buccaneers.
55:07Claudia Oshry:Yes.
55:08Jackie Oshry:But we have six, literally six years since his last championship. Like that's a long time. I guess. Six years older.
55:14Claudia Oshry:Okay. I'm older. No, I'm like very much sat for this NBA season. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll see. Don't make me say it. You're not like other girls. You drink beer. Exactly. Let's dive into our final segment of the week, Queenie and Weenie. and we kind of like fumbled the last couple of weeks. We forgot to do it. So Queenie and Weenie is our final segment of the week where every Friday, Jackie and I just like to take a look back at the week at a glance and deliver two awards. Queenie of the week and Weenie of the week. It's pretty self-explanatory. If you did something Queenie-like, you will be Queenie of the week.
55:46And if you were acting like a major Weenie, you will be Weenie of the week. Don't get too upset. It's a seven-day title and you can find yourself Queenie one week, Weenie the next. So don't get too comfortable, sweetheart.
55:55Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Now, what do we want to start with? Queenie. Queenie. I'm going to make my Queenie of the Week. I think it's pretty obvious. And I think she's like Queenie probably like two and a half weeks running, given like the wedding and then the clapbacks. And that would be Paige Paul, Nay Lorenz. Yeah. Paige Paul. Oh, Nay Lorenz. Absolutely. She was a contender for me as well. Like not every time she speaks. PPNL. It's actually very rare that somebody like speaks a lot and I'm always agreeing with them. Because like even if I like you, I'll think you're a little dumb, you know. She has just been like slaying every time she speaks even more.
56:23I agree with everything she's saying. That's my Queen right there.
56:25Claudia Oshry:yeah and I think if we had done Queenie like last week when she got her wedding pics and like she's just having like a Queenie like run it's undeniable I agree she's on a Queenie like run and it's a Queenie like summer for her Queenie of the week Paige Lawrence yeah unanimously unanimously I agree and then weenie of course there were so many options but I'm gonna give it
56:51to a landry yeah she's brave i know because the thing is that i was just saying like how much like i've written for and it's true but when i thought about the dissolution of nicolandria incorporated i really didn't ever see it going this way where it was like loki a bad reflection
57:05Jackie Oshry:on alandria and that i feel is what happened the noir comments did not help um and i just feel that she hasn't been putting her best foot forward this week yeah and i feel like old andrea maybe in the past has actually even been queenie so like she will be queenie again like a phoenix rising from the ashes but like the behavior was a little weeny like this week and for me would be
57:26Claudia Oshry:the nickel andrea like stans who are now like coming for me and like just like my like our looks and like our looks and it's like are we that bad looking like no no and also like i we're off limits like we just had babies we're off limits like when people like want to say something about my looks i'm like my looks are irrelevant um no actually my looks are insane positive given the fact that i just literally just had a baby no like but truly like what do you mean my looks that's not even a thing right now i don't have looks but also like let's say things looks are a thing right now like it is sort of a fact of life like you and i are timeless beauties like we would be beautiful in any generation like we don't have plastic surgery face like we have beautiful smiles we have real faces like we are factually timeless great beauties
58:19so yeah of course I'm like yeah of course feel free to call me fat like it's a temporary phase like I'm fine with that but you cannot deny like the true beauty like the essence of us is beautiful I agree also like they're only seeing clips from like this studio and I just feel like the lighting like it's not doing a hundred percent like our right yeah so like they just don't know all the truth like they don't know that i've just had my third child in right four years like because you don't know that makes you a weenie that because you know so thank you guys so much for an amazing week and thank you so much for listening to the toast and let me show my queenies are the butterflies as well of course every Monday through Friday and YouTube so you're watching us on YouTube please stop for your to subscribe oh emoji I love it butterfly of course wherever you listen podcast Vanessa Tosley five-star review about a beautiful setting a weekly town to be a happy because of an amazing day and we'll see you on Monday have a great weekend love ya bye
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