Eating Potatoes and Doody: Tuesday, March 10th, 2026

7:35Claudia Oshry:We might be helping. We might. I'd be hurting you.

7:38Jackie Oshry:Let's do like a bit of a town hall on Dear Toaster's submission. So if you ever want to write in, you can email us or you can go to our website. So the email is deartosters at gmail.com. And the website is thetoastpodcast.com. There's a submission box. Both methods are totally anonymous. Now, if you've written in and you haven't gotten on air, your quandary just might be uninteresting, in which case I can't help you. but if you've written in and you have an interesting thing and it hasn't gotten on air it might be a little long so maybe pare it down with just the basic need to know stats um and also if you've written into us and we've helped you like be a little bit gracious and write us back like what happened give us an update we never get updates i love updates yes something just write like put email in the subject line emailing excuse me put update in the subject line like i don't know i It just feels kind of tacky to sort of take our advice and run.

8:27Jackie Oshry:And you know our advice is like.

8:28Claudia Oshry:That's like, that's what we're here for, you know.

8:30Jackie Oshry:Like setting people free, like letting them fly. No, write us back.

8:32Claudia Oshry:And it's like we're here for the time of need. Like we don't need to, you know. I understand it. I don't. I understand it. I don't. But just like for the tea, you know. Your girls are curious.

8:44Jackie Oshry:So that'll be Dear Toasters at the end of the episode today. How are the stories? Good. Things in which to discuss. You know what I did this morning? What? Something crazy. What? Watch the sunset? Crazier. FaceTime with my sister, Margo.

9:00Claudia Oshry:How's Sachi?

9:01Jackie Oshry:You know, Sachi was getting some, making some waves on TikTok yesterday.

9:06Claudia Oshry:Share.

9:07Jackie Oshry:She posted her outfit. And Margo's like a very cool girl who works in fashion. And she likes to share her corporate outfits on TikTok, which I think is so interesting that she's like this, you know, influencer who also has a job. And people like hated her outfit yesterday. And they were being so mean to her. Tell me. Okay. They were being so mean to her. And it was just like, sorry, Margo works in fashion.

9:23Claudia Oshry:like maybe you guys just don't get it you know what I mean show me well sometimes I feel like they're mean to her when she's wearing she showed me one that where they were being mean to her and she was wearing a sweater jeans and boots she's wearing a sweater jeans and boots today

9:35Jackie Oshry:and they didn't like it and she was like getting hate comments and I'm like Margot you're a fabulous young thing that lives in New York City like sorry the unemployed slobs on the internet just don't get it but like I get it I get it she works in fashion like you're not supposed to understand it

9:47Claudia Oshry:at the end of the day there's nothing to understand it's a jeans sweater and that's controversial to you. I'd love to see your outfit. I love Margot's like corporate The other time that she showed me the hate she was getting, she was literally wearing skinny jeans tucked into like riding boots and a sweater. Yeah, like normal outfit. I don't get why that's like people are really looking for stuff. No, it's very high. Margot's very highbrow. The sweater or whatever. Like, okay, so you didn't like someone's sweater?

10:12Jackie Oshry:Margot's very highbrow. It's okay if you don't understand it. It's kind of giving that scene. How's she handling the hate? It's kind of giving that scene in The Devil Wears Prada. Like Margot was cerulean and everyone else was just like Andy who picked out that sweater out of a bin picked out by the people in this room. How is she handling the hate? You know, it was a devastating blow but when I spoke to her this morning, her spirit was strong and she didn't give a fuck. One thing about Sachi, she's not going to care.

10:37Claudia Oshry:She should do more. I know because she was like, I'm getting a lot of followers.

10:41Jackie Oshry:I'm like, well you should put on something actually heinous.

10:43Claudia Oshry:No, like something actually controversial that sparks dialogue. You know, like a sweater engine. With a swastika. really controversial like something avant-garde like no that's not what I meant

10:54Jackie Oshry:you didn't mean that Marga should wear a swastika on her arm or what about a yellow star

10:58Claudia Oshry:no I didn't I just meant like something divisive what's more divisive than a swastika? aesthetically not ideologically you had to be a little bit more specific aesthetically

11:10Jackie Oshry:so yeah that's what's going on on TikTok do you feel like I need to keep you updated and what are they saying about us? we are going viral for like our pout thing.

11:19Claudia Oshry:Oh, okay.

11:19Jackie Oshry:So I made a video about the pout, which is what inspired me bringing it up yesterday. I'm like approaching 2 million views on that. And then we clipped our pout and it like really is taking over. It is.

11:28Claudia Oshry:You looked nice on camera.

11:30Jackie Oshry:I know. So I need to work on it for sure. But people were very encouraging in the comments and I think people really appreciated like, you know, us pointing it out because like, yeah, everyone is doing it. Like Kylie does it too a lot. I think if you have, if you overline or if you have lip filler like it makes it easier a little bit because it's very top lip forward.

11:47Claudia Oshry:but i have a big top well you just have big lips so why can't i do it like why so i should be saying yeah you should be psyched you need to look in a mirror yeah i have to research

11:57Jackie Oshry:i think i'm like pushing too much i i'll get there all that to say yeah we are making waves

12:06Claudia Oshry:on tiktok what else is new classic us classic us classic in a classic kind of way everyone used to say that classic i feel like ben kind of says that a lot it's a good word it is

12:21Jackie Oshry:i there were a couple of like phrases and things we used to say that we're gone too soon i know you are but what am i oh no i would say classic is like you know in the same kind of like it's giving i hate it's giving vibes you know what else i hate what did we say before vibes you know what else I really hate is um giving pronouns to like inanimate objects like you buy a purse being like isn't she beautiful it's like no I like I hate that shit do you know what I mean yeah that's very like influencer yeah I mean she's literally gorgeous and it's like a pencil you know what I

12:57Claudia Oshry:mean I hate that shit I um I don't think I do that but I'm sure I have just because like I get swept

13:03Jackie Oshry:up in culture but like I'm sort of sound of mind enough to step back every once in a while and like I hate that yeah when I see people do it it's so cringe yeah say less bestie love that

13:13Claudia Oshry:I kind of love that and you know what say more do people say that no say more no we're only encouraging everybody we're only putting each other down correct actually no say less is like like I agree with you like you don't even don't waste your breath yeah say yeah it's actually a

13:29Jackie Oshry:nice thing yeah say more would mean you didn't prove your argument right and like yeah yeah

13:35Claudia Oshry:so let's get into the stories because as we discussed we have stories and we have stuff to do like oh yeah your toasters without further ado to do here are the fast five stories that you do

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19:29Claudia Oshry:Thank you, Tert, as directed. A pleasure. Our first story, Baywatch Reboot, is coming to Fox TV and we've got our stars. So Brooks Nader has been announced as part of the Baywatch Reboot. As has Noah Beck. He will be playing. You're kidding. Oh my God. I got sort of blindsided by the Brooke Snader. He will be playing a rookie lifeguard who comes from a family of firefighters. The duality of Noah.

19:57Jackie Oshry:Yeah. I just want to say I didn't know that was happening much like Cynthia Eribo because I follow Brooke Snader and I was just sort of obsessed with that. It was very Nader oriented. It was Nader oriented. Love Brooke Snader getting booked gigs. I mean, she's so Baywatch. Like, it's perfect. however yeah the Baywatch franchise has sort of been like beaded into a pulp wasn't there already a show there was a movie like it's just not working it was sort of a moment in time it was lightning a bottle it was Pamela Anderson like just sort of let it be yeah even the movie that had like The Rock Zac Efron right Andrea Daddario like was a flop yeah I don't know how you can do

20:35Claudia Oshry:it better than that now of course I put Brooks in anything and I will watch it but I just feel like Baywatch reboots are sort of cursed?

20:42Jackie Oshry:Not only are they cursed, but now it's like, it's like losery. Like, you know what I mean? I think of Baywatch and I don't think Fabulous, Pamela Anderson, they've quite literally successfully destroyed the legacy of Baywatch.

20:52Claudia Oshry:Because now I think about all the failed attempts. Yeah, but let me ask you something. Like if you're someone like Brooks and like you want to get into the industry in like an acting capacity, you're making the jump from like modeling to acting. Are you going to turn this down? You get cast on the new Fox show, which is a reboot of a very popular show. like do you turn it down because you feel like the Baywatch vibes are off like no no but like

21:11Jackie Oshry:I'm telling you the show won't be successful and it will have nothing to do with Brooks Nader no it will be it'll just be another Baywatch project like in the garbage can yeah but I don't want to like rain on Brooks I know and I'm so happy for and I know she like works really hard like so I think she'll really commit to this role I think we're gonna start seeing her like you know dressing giving Pamela Anderson vibes like I love it I love this for Brooks taking that out of it as like bricks is number one fan just like zooming out as a pop culture commentator like this sucks enough enough baywatt reboot you know what like put brooks nader in the next christopher nolan movie okay i said it send brooks nader to space yes living on mars in a bathing suit eating potatoes and what would happen if you like went to space in a bathing suit like you were still wearing the headgear but like your skin was in space why do they cover their whole body you'd

21:58Claudia Oshry:probably be like burned yeah oh it's also probably freezing cold yeah freezing cold yeah i guess um or incredibly hot depends right where in space so here's who else is in the cast let me know if you know anyone she will star opposite steven amel who plays the lead role of hobby buchanan do you have pictures of these people no just let me know if you hear if any of these names sound familiar i know but i'm more of like a face person steven amel visual how are we spelling amel we're spelling Stephen with a P. Oh, okay. A-M-E-L-O.

22:30Jackie Oshry:Canadian actor, Stephen Amell. Is this her new man? Let's see him. Go. Oh, my God. Oh, he's cute, but I'm quite literally. He was in Suits LA. I must have missed it. Oh, he's kind of cute for Brooksy. Yeah. But I need Brooksy to start dating up, like not randos. Who's next? Jessica Belkin. Sounds so familiar. Jessica Belkin. Oh, my God. She's gorgeous. Let me see. Oh, I know why we know her name. Wait, hold on. She was just announced as, you know, the Elle Woods prequel on Prime. She's Elle. Oh. She's literally insanely gorgeous. Oh, I guess everyone in the show was going to be like perfect looking because it's Baywatch.

23:07Jackie Oshry:Okay. Hasse Harrison. That sounds like a name we would make up to like call your son. Another gorgeous unknown.

23:14Claudia Oshry:Another gorgeous girl. Thaddeus Legrone. Okay.

23:19Jackie Oshry:Thaddeus Legrone. Oh, my. All these people are like really unknown. and they barely have any photos. He's just like a really hot guy. Yeah. Love it.

23:26Claudia Oshry:Is there anyone on this cast who's not like one pound and 17? And original series star David Chokachi who returns as Cody Madison. Yay.

23:36Jackie Oshry:David Chokachi.

23:38Claudia Oshry:Brooks will be playing the series regular role of Celine, the sharp-tongued captain of the Zuma Beach lifeguards.

23:44Jackie Oshry:Oh, David Chokachi is like a Rob Lowe looking like old tiny actor. He was in the original.

23:48Claudia Oshry:Okay. While Brooks is excellent at her job, she and Baywatch captain Hobby Buchanan have a very different approach to saving lives that is a constant source of friction. Never on good terms, their relationship only goes downhill after Hobby brings his daughter Charlie onto his team. Hobby Harrison and Charlie?

24:07Jackie Oshry:This show is so Jax Coded.

24:09Claudia Oshry:So Jax Coded. And it becomes clear that their rivalry goes much deeper than lifeguarding.

24:14Jackie Oshry:Don't you feel like lifeguarding is sort of like a job of the past? We were just remarking because we went to like a hotel pool and there was a kid's pool and there wasn't a lifeguard. I just feel like in these litigious times, like nobody wants to be a lifeguard. No, it's not.

24:27Claudia Oshry:I mean, if you go to the beach, there's still lifeguards.

24:29Jackie Oshry:Is there? I haven't seen one. I've been to the beach a lot here.

24:30Claudia Oshry:No, there are lifeguards.

24:31Jackie Oshry:I haven't seen one.

24:32Claudia Oshry:I don't think it's a job of the past. I think it's like something like A, I could never.

24:36Jackie Oshry:No, A, I could never. But I feel like nobody wants to be a lifeguard anymore. Don't you feel like nobody wants to like get the fuck up and work as a lifeguard?

24:41Claudia Oshry:No, I feel like you've just like aged out of knowing lifeguards. but it will always be like a rite of passing. Even when I was younger like I didn't know Margot Washer was a lifeguard.

24:50Jackie Oshry:She was and you know Ben's like claim to fame is that he was a lifeguard for 30 seconds and he claims to be like still CPR certified.

24:56Claudia Oshry:Yeah but it's like because Margot stopped lifeguarding we think like the world stopped lifeguarding. No just because

24:59Jackie Oshry:now I'm aware of lifeguards like I'm around kids and pools a lot and like pool safety is so important so I'm like where's the lifeguard?

25:05Claudia Oshry:Yeah I wish there were more lifeguards I'll agree with you on that point but not that there are no lifeguards.

25:10Jackie Oshry:No I'm telling you there are no lifeguards It's like just put that in your brain and now look.

25:13Claudia Oshry:Well, maybe this will like make people want to be like. Once again, you not supporting my call. I just want to say based on this whole synopsis and the beauties that we saw on Google Images, I feel like it has a chance. That's really sweet of you to say. I feel like it could be like, it could just be like a cultural moment, like when 90210 came back.

25:32Jackie Oshry:Right. That was crazy how like popular that reboot was.

25:35Claudia Oshry:Right. You know, like maybe they could figure it out. Yeah. They've got the faces. They've got the names. they've got Hasse Harrison and Charlie well they've got Hasse Harrison so like honestly I'm sad I'll watch it I'm sad for Brooks yeah they've got Brooksy

25:51Jackie Oshry:congrats Brad's are you right

25:53Claudia Oshry:oh they have Noah Beck too

25:55Jackie Oshry:correct obsessed did you ever see he like acted in like one of these like teen dramas like Bratz TV kind of thing and it was really compelling

26:01Claudia Oshry:oh wow so he has a huge background

26:03Jackie Oshry:in acting

26:04Claudia Oshry:like for the right before I read the story up until then like I thought it was Noah Centennial so I was like he's back But this is different. This is Addison's ex-man. Not Addison. Dixie. Dixie. Oh, it's Dixie. Oh, he was so cute.

26:16Jackie Oshry:And he was in the show.

26:17Claudia Oshry:Was Addison dating Bryce?

26:18Jackie Oshry:Yeah, that was like dark times. Shrysand. She was dating Shrysand. You know Noah Beck because you watched the D 'Amelio show.

26:24Claudia Oshry:And he was such a darling. He was such a good boyfriend.

26:26Jackie Oshry:He was like very sound of mind, very grounded for somebody. Like a lot of these TikTokers like really struggled with their fame. And he was very, he was like a good boyfriend, a stable force in Dixie's life.

26:37Claudia Oshry:I really want good things for the show. okay and for Noah and Brooksy okay age appropriate are they romantic leads in one another because she's no it sounds like she's like with the captain of as she should as she should and then maybe like Noah and Hasse Harrison like something like that yeah I could see Noah and Hasse he's 24 so we'll just she's what like 29 yeah but like she needs like she needs more man in Luanne de la

27:03Jackie Oshry:Costner she needs more man yeah are you ready for our next story do you think that Brooksonator and and Alex Earl know each other. I was thinking about that last night in the shower. Because they're always popping up at the same places. I need them to be friends. I feel like they would like one another.

27:17Claudia Oshry:Well, I feel like they've had the opportunity. So maybe if they're not, it's because they don't. It's not a match. No, I know. I was like, is there beef between them? But Alex is a lot younger than her. I guess. Right? Oh, no. Sally just turned 25. Right, they're 25. I'll always know Alex's age. Because of Sally. Right. And Brooksy's 29, did you say? so that's not that different i know and they're always four important years i know but they're always in the same place but then they are and they're like similar i feel like maybe they don't

27:45Jackie Oshry:like each other maybe they don't that's a good call or maybe right now alex can't pursue a

27:49Claudia Oshry:friendship with one of tom brady's ex-flangs oh maybe that's a brooksy doesn't want to pursue a friend but i think they definitely both like compete for for men you know like yep they should

27:59Jackie Oshry:just putting it out they're not stronger together agreed like i think alex should have brooksy on hot mess like that um podcast makeup get real with me yeah right all right get real with me yeah

28:10Claudia Oshry:now are you ready for our next story chapel ron is making news as she turns the camera on the paparazzi so chapel ron is going viral she was out in i want to say harris yeah it felt french

28:23Jackie Oshry:the cab like the way the door opened was so and they were saying chapelle chapelle yeah yeah chapelle chapelle when i saw it i thought it was dave chapelle because i saw the captions on the

28:32Claudia Oshry:video i'm like what is dave chapelle doing and someone was like i'm actually team chapelle here and i was like oh what did dave chapelle do anyway singer chapelle rhone has absolutely had enough of the paparazzi she turned the camera on her pursuers as she went out to dinner sunday night with a crowd of photographers trailing her in paris so she got in the video she got out of the car with her phone vlog like literally david dobrik chapelle and there's paparazzi like flanking both sides of the sidewalk as she goes into the restaurant and so she starts like filming like these are the guys that I've kept telling him to leave me alone.

29:03Jackie Oshry:There was one guy in particular who was like asking for an autograph. He didn't look like Popper. No, he was like one of those resellers. You know, they like get your autograph. They try to get you to sign in blue Sharpie. You're never supposed to sign in blue Sharpie because they could take your signature and put it on a T-shirt and sell it and pretend it's real. So she was largely aiming it at this one fellow.

29:20Claudia Oshry:And there was another one in the back who was hiding his face and she just wanted to like put them all on blast.

29:26Jackie Oshry:Yeah. And I just want to say like I feel good about the fact Like Chapel Rhone doesn't like being famous and like, that's fine with me. I don't really want to see or talk about her either. So like, I'm not participating. I don't stream her music. I'm not propping her up. So like, maybe we should all just stop because she doesn't like it. So, you know, I just want to say there's a million girls who die for that job. Okay. Like come resell my signature. Okay. Yeah. And like, I'm very much of an agreement. Like so much of being a celebrity is terrible. Like the paparazzi, like it's really, it's awful.

29:54Jackie Oshry:And like for a while I was like championing her like boundaries and shit.

29:58Claudia Oshry:Overseas paparazzi seem like way worse. nuttier in there's different and some overseas seem better yeah and every celebrity like has

30:05Jackie Oshry:their moment just beaver just through a water bottle like i actually love that stuff but like it's the only thing with her so it's like quit yeah like you don't like being famous and it's like well yes you'll have to give up like your songwriting fine quit like you hate it so much it's just like annoying now i usually like it when a celebrity like throws it back in the face of the media like slay mama slay but it's like the oh i don't even hear her new music anymore i just see a new video of her yelling at someone but i just don't understand why it's so hard for

30:29Claudia Oshry:her to get out of the house like without being bombarded by paparazzi. She's that famous. No and also like she wears a lot of costumes like if she really just pairs it down and just had her hair like in a back bun and she looks like a normal girl and she didn't roll up to the restaurant in an SUV and clear the way.

30:45Jackie Oshry:She's at like Paris Fashion Week or whatever. Maybe she's in Milan. Like if you just wanted to like release music and be famous for that like you don't have to leave your house and do other stuff. Like you're going to a media circus that is Fashion Week where like photographers are just like teaming the street. so you can you and your boundaries like you can also put up your own and like stop putting yourself in these situations yeah a lot of celebrities go to the grammys and don't walk the red carpet like yeah protect chap self you're like the expectation that every person on the planet in this crazy industry mind you is going to respect your boundaries to the nth degree like girl grow the fuck up that's not happening so why don't you start protecting chap self i just feel

31:24Claudia Oshry:like there are ways to get around it and i don't know why she doesn't utilize them like Kylie and Timothy lived in New York. We never saw a picture of them. You just put on a baseball cap and go about your business. No, but stop going to things like this. Isn't that a part of your job? She's like Hannah Montana to me. If she took off her wig or just put on one, we wouldn't know who she was. Yeah.

31:41Jackie Oshry:And also, why don't you sing your songs and then go home? This is not a part of your job, going to Fashion Week. You're not a fashionista. You're not a model. You're not a designer. You don't have to go to Fashion Week.

31:50Claudia Oshry:Maybe she would argue that she should be able to do these things in a...

31:54Jackie Oshry:Well, coulda, woulda, shoulda. The world is an unfair place. So protect yourself. You're all about like protecting your back. Protect yourself. The expectation that you're going to leave your house and every single person is going to like abide by your invisible rules is absurd. Protect yourself or shut up. Like I actually can't take it anymore. Like shut up.

32:09Claudia Oshry:Oh, wow.

32:10Jackie Oshry:I can't take it. There's a million girls who will kill for that job.

32:13Claudia Oshry:Chappelle, Chappelle. Chappelle, Chappelle. I love that. New vocal stim. Are you ready for our next story? Dakota Johnson is the new face of Calvin Klein in a sexy shoot. so Dakota Johnson just launched her new Calvin Klein underwear shoot it's like a video where Dakota is like talking to Dakota in her eyes topless she's fruits on titties she's bottomless book on cooter can I see the um the stills yeah it's it's very sexy it's a really beautiful she

32:41Jackie Oshry:looks great I mean I feel two ways about this you know I love Dakota okay tits out on the window like for Carolyn and Jeff oh vagina book okay I didn't see that one vagina book I just want to say no woman in the world needs a bra like this i just want to say like it's a look it's like a sports bra with cups it's a sports bra with like a push-up bra inside like quite literally that was a bra designed by a man nobody needs that i agree here she's not kid naked again oh this is nice

33:07Claudia Oshry:undies you do need it if you're shooting a campaign for calvin klein yeah it's really it's a good time

33:12Jackie Oshry:to wear it i love dakota johnson like slay mama but this does feel like some sort of response or rebuttal to like the timing is is interesting because of jfk because of jfk jr i think um like this is supposed to redirect because like calvin klein's giving big loser energy alive yes he is so he's seeing the portrayal i can't wait for his essay in the new york times oh for sure i mean he had a really bad portrayal it's giving like narcissist egomaniac like not actually the talent. Carolyn was the real talent. Like it's absurd. Please. I mean I think it's so actually insane and out there. I don't think Calvin Klein is like that at all actually.

33:52Claudia Oshry:Yeah maybe like bits and bobs are true. Even though it's good for the hymn that like Daryl wrote her essay. Yeah. Because I mean. It's largely been debunked. And I haven't seen like the bad stuff about him yet but I think I'd be able to take it with a grain of salt. The TV show.

34:06Jackie Oshry:Was it a TV show Halston? Yeah. Also had some like choice words. Maybe like just back in the day when Calvin was ascending, like he was an asshole.

34:13Claudia Oshry:I mean, that would make sense. No, he was like this magnanimous, like really.

34:17Jackie Oshry:Right. No, he was like the face of American. He put American fashion like on, according to Halston TV show, on the map. Yeah. So like I would be insufferable too.

34:25Claudia Oshry:But I think that these pictures are really iconic of Dakota Johnson. I don't remember the last time he got like a Calvin Klein campaign worth mentioning. I do. Which one?

34:33Jackie Oshry:Nick Jonas, like recreating the Mark Wahlberg, like crotch grab. Remember that? That is, I feel like the last time I talked about Calvin Klein. Got it. And they definitely invented this model that Skims is now like operating at a very high level. So I feel as though in like the marketing celebrity campaign department, they're way behind. And this is a nice start. They probably could have taken more of the momentum with the show and like maybe leaned in. Maybe Calvin said no. But it's good. It's good. Yeah. It doesn't make me feel the way like Sarah Pidgeon for Road made me feel.

35:09Claudia Oshry:I don't know. I think Dakota's an interesting choice, not an obvious one. I think she's like, she looks great. You wouldn't think of her as like sexy. Fifty Shades? Oh, I guess. People also just really like her. But she was like a nerd.

35:20Jackie Oshry:Who realizes she's handsome when she takes off her glasses. Everybody really likes her, too. Yeah, everybody really likes her. She has a very positive Q score. When we talk about the Nepo Baby conversation, it's like, well, we know you can't act, and you literally got a movie franchise that like a million girls would want, having never acted a day in your life. But we're not talking about you. But the body is tea. The body is tea. People really like her.

35:37Claudia Oshry:They love best tea.

35:39Jackie Oshry:Body is tea. She looks amazing. She looks amazing. No, when we have like those privileged Nepo conversations, it's like literally about her, but we don't care, you know?

35:46Claudia Oshry:No, no. That's why it's really, it's different for everyone. You can't just paint with a broad brush when we're talking about nepotism and Ben Platt.

35:55Jackie Oshry:I was just going to say, but we're always talking about, did you guys see Ben Platt? Or I don't know who posted it, but he was with all of his brothers and his mom. And that was sort of a big deal. He has two brothers, Jonah. Of course, who hosts like the amazing podcast. And then Henry, who I actually follow weirdly on TikTok. They all have like amazing singing voices. Actually, I don't know if Jonah sings, but Henry has an amazing, he's always doing like riffs and harmonies. I don't know what he does for work. But it was, Mark wasn't there. Maybe Mark was taking the picture of the dad. The wife was there.

36:21Jackie Oshry:Yeah, the mom and her three sons, which I was happy for the mom. But I don't know how they all get together. It must be so weird. No, I can't imagine. I mean. Like Jonah definitely hates Ben and Ben hates Jonah. Of course.

36:32Claudia Oshry:And Henry was in the middle. It wasn't like Jonah. Like you could take that picture with like two people who do hate each other. The posting of it was shocking. But I would have thought that like Mark, like the parents were also disappointed in. Yeah, but that's your son, you know? In Ben. I know. I know. I don't know. It's so bad, Rachel. It's so bad. It's so bad. It's so bad. It's so bad. It's worse than the Beckhams to me. It is, but like nobody cares.

36:54Jackie Oshry:It's our Beckhams. It's our Beckhams. Did you see like she had her fashion show, which we know from her documentary is like such a big deal for her. It was Paris. Oh, so it must have just been Paris Fashion Week. Okay. and the whole family was there and like when she posted for the first time she posted like a carousel but the first photo was her whole family being means so much for you guys to be here the caption was just like so Nicola coded

37:15Claudia Oshry:and it was like all the girlfriends wives and girlfriends the wags yeah the Beckham wags yeah crazy time crazy I really need them to like get back together

37:23Jackie Oshry:the family

37:24Claudia Oshry:the family like I don't care if they don't like each other like this is so terrible what he wrote I know the sexy dance thing the thing is like we can you know No, it's Megxit. I'm sorry. It's not.

37:35Jackie Oshry:Look at Chyna and Kylie.

37:37Claudia Oshry:If the Chyna's and the Kardashians can work it out. They barely have worked it out. They've just stopped being in court together. They've worked it out. Chyna's always saying really nice things about them now. And they're not saying nice things about her. They've worked it out. It's Dream's mom. That's what I mean. Victoria says nice things about Brooklyn. But they're not all... I'm telling you, I believe in love. and I believe in Reunion. I don't know. I think they've Megzited.

38:04Jackie Oshry:No, they haven't gone too far.

38:06Claudia Oshry:Speaking of Megzit, are you ready for our next story?

38:08Jackie Oshry:Is it about Beatrice and Eugenie? No, it's about Meghan Markle. Oh, right. But there's drama with Beatrice and Eugenie. I don't know if you saw.

38:14Claudia Oshry:What? I mean, aside from the obvious drama. Well, like they've always sort of been

38:17Jackie Oshry:kept separate from the fact that their dad was Jeffrey Epstein's like number one client. But I was watching this TikTok from like a royal expert, the person who wrote the book on the House of York, which like is about Sarah Fergie and everyone, that like things are not looking good for them. They've been dropped as like patrons of their big charities. They've been having like private meetings. Apparently like William and Catherine asked them to submit to a financial audit because I think they took on a lot of like the Shade business handlings of Andrew and Jeffrey. And they said no. And I think like they're expecting an announcement to be coming in the following weeks in regards to Eugenie and Beatrice and what their future of the royal family looks like.

38:57Claudia Oshry:Oh, like denouncing, like renouncing? Not renouncing, but sort of stepping back, you know, from their roles or whatever. Interesting. I think an audit is really fair.

39:06Jackie Oshry:Yeah, and they would not submit, which doesn't look good. Because, and then, oh, so I forgot which one, but one of them has her own charity, which is now under investigation by like the British Commission of Charities, for like spending more money on salaries than like giving back, which is of course never good. And then she was dropped as a patron of the other one.

39:23Claudia Oshry:So stay tuned for that. Yeah, I imagine there's a lot of like drama and they're going to deal with a lot of fallout. Yeah. That's really. Unfortunate. Yeah. I mean, plenty of charities spend more on. Correct. Like, please. That's like the thing. If you go to that like charity website calculator. I mean, they all do. They spend more on like admin than they do on actual charitable. But not the Mark Schoenweather Holocaust Education Foundation. Just saying. They would never.

39:51Jackie Oshry:They would never. Of which I'm a patron.

39:53Claudia Oshry:No. Our next story is about Meghan Markle. She has shut down S-Ever and Netflix has pulled out of S-Ever. But then I saw a statement that she made saying it was not true. No. So they shut down rumors that she would expand her S-Ever brand to other countries after the Netflix partnership ended. So Netflix was a partner in S-Ever because of the show and they were doing the products. They were like an investor. Yeah. And now there's no show. Oh, I guess like they had all the infrastructure. So if they're not involved, like. And there's no show like what's S-Ever doing. Yeah. So amid reports that the Duchess of Sussex was looking to sell her as ever products in Australia, a spokesperson said it's all speculation.

40:32Claudia Oshry:So a spokesperson for as ever said, no decisions have been made about when or where international expansion might take place. Entering new markets is a considered process, but it's something the brand is excited to explore as it continues to grow in this next phase. Watch this space. That's what they said. That's what they said. They said, watch this space. Okay. um but but her and harry are traveling to australia and god it's people thought it was about a sever um i don't think it's about it there's not an as ever brand trip to australia i don't think so that's what she needs a brand trip i would happily go and like at her montecito home honestly ben needs to go he's like the number one fan guys he said it was so good it was i got

41:11Jackie Oshry:sent an apricot jam and you guys know i'm not gonna eat that um and i kept it in the fridge just sort of as a keepsake like yes a former princess gave me and it's gone ben ate the whole thing and he like posted on his instagram being like i've just found this jam in my fridge it's amazing i'm like you found this jam it was a gift from a princess yeah that's pr jam yeah um it's actually like not even funny anymore how everything they launch they like eventually stop

41:34Claudia Oshry:or it gets canceled and they're like the idea that obviously like as ever's done now they're going to australia for what they call private business and philanthropic engagements like nothing like why would anyone go into business that it's about as ever international expansion But so what is it about? They're probably just like going and waving and wanting to feel special. Right. I think they're really liked in Australia. Oh, that's nice. But like, no, you couldn't make it in your first market. So yes, of course, you're expanding internationally. Duh.

42:08Jackie Oshry:I like actually every time we report on like when her podcast ended, there's such a sense of disbelief, right? Like a disbelief. Because there's no way like failure. Not only the admission of failure, but there's no way that, again, you weren't able to take this project. And they are two of the most famous people, not even in America, in the world. And not one thing that they have done has been a successful business venture. Between the jams, the podcast, the TV show. I guess Harry's book was a success. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. His memoir is where he threw his family under the bus. Like, great, okay.

42:37Jackie Oshry:It's actually insane the amount of businesses they launch or announce and then eventually don't even launch or if they do, they fail. Like, it's insane. No, it's, yeah.

42:48Claudia Oshry:It's shocking. It's unbelievable. It leaves me in a state of disbelief. Yeah. But we should watch that space. Maybe something major is going to happen. The space of what? Edible flowers? The space of as ever. I would love to know how much product they sold. Yeah. I feel like someone reported on it once. It wasn't. No, remember?

43:07Jackie Oshry:They were like, we sold out. But it's like, well, you sold out of what? Four or 4 ,000? Yeah. Anyone could sell out of anything if you just make a limited quantity.

43:14Claudia Oshry:small batch i wonder once as ever and with love peter out i mean what was with love the show

43:20Jackie Oshry:and then as ever was the horrible branding poor horrible no not even titles like such poor synergy like you have a show where you're featuring the products and the products are going to be sold and netflix is a partner of the brand but also a partner of the show it should all be called the

43:32Claudia Oshry:same thing of course and it shouldn't be like you know loose words words yeah like you need strong Strong words. As ever. I just want to say Ben is going to be devastated. Well, I think I have an extra jam I can give to him. Oh, okay. The final jam. Quite literally the final jam. So when all of this peters out, which it seems like they're going to, you know. Eventually close down. Put it on life support. Slowly. Deactivate the Instagram. But like very slowly. They're still pretending like watch this. Right, right. Whenever we close the book on a sever, I wonder what's going to be next. What do you think?

44:08Jackie Oshry:Well, maybe then Harry taps in. You know, I think they both take a year or two where they have to be the breadwinner and the public facing one. And then the other one gets a break. Harry is supposed to be releasing two more books.

44:18Claudia Oshry:Maybe the next thing would be his book. But what do you think for Meghan? Because I don't think she's ever going to just not do stuff.

44:25Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I would have thought that this last jaunt of like the TV show maybe would have been. Because that's what I personally wanted to see from her. It wasn't good. Maybe she'll go back to acting. Yeah. oh but she did oh they do now like option books right meet me at the lake carly fortune um and then we did announce that she was returning to acting yeah in a book that she's adapting like a

44:52Claudia Oshry:you know yeah but like just being producers on a book adaptation like that's not enough for them to live no no not even that like they want fame in front of camera things and to be like spoken about and known like i don't think they're just like oh we'll just produce movies that we're

45:06Jackie Oshry:passionate about well i think that they've like sort of burned the bridge with netflix maybe they're going to hulu and hulu does do like you know kind of amazing docuseries maybe we'll see

45:14Claudia Oshry:like a harry and megan tv show oh my god that would be really lowbrow yeah that would be like gary genetti the prince yeah where she's a real housewife right maybe she'll join the real house I was a belly host. That's where we're headed.

45:31Jackie Oshry:And I just want to say down. And do you have any advice of like what they should do? Yeah. I mean, I don't know if they keep doing work and projects to make money or to be famous, but you know, they do have money. And so it's easy to make money when you have money, like start investing in things like you can live a quiet life. I think that they need revenue. I think they live a very expensive life. So part of it is fueled by money. And there are a lot of ways to make money without being famous. I think they're sort of Achilles heel is that they both really want to be very famous. And it's like, People who are rich and it's not enough for them.

46:02Jackie Oshry:Most people, they say, like, if you want to be rich and famous, like, just be rich and it'll solve all your problems. Like, people who it's not enough for are, like, actually really sick in the head. And so, like, this desperation to be famous, I think, is what's going to be their downfall. Because they could make money easily in the position that they're in. You know, when you're at that level, you get opportunities. Here, we need, you know, money. Give me a million dollars. And then 10 years later, you get 50 million. Like, people at that level, you can make money. But I don't think it's about money for them.

46:27Jackie Oshry:And that's what I think. I think it's, sorry, it is partially about money. but it's also about being famous.

46:31Claudia Oshry:And I mean, they're the most famous couple in the world. So it's not like they lack fame, but it's like they want to be beloved. They want like the world to love them and need them. And I feel like with everything that they do, it's getting worse for them. Like if they had just stopped when they megs it in, they did Oprah and they just like, we're like these quiet, mysterious celebrities. They would have been, it would have been very endearing to people too.

46:51Jackie Oshry:Like,

46:51Claudia Oshry:look,

46:51Jackie Oshry:they did leave all of this behind for a quieter life.

46:53Claudia Oshry:But now every time they make it worse for themselves, I feel like they feel like, okay, now we have to try something else to like get it back. and everything just makes it worse. And I don't know that there's something that's going to get it back for them other than actually enjoying the privacy that they asked for. Right, right. And being mysterious. A little bit of mystery goes a long way.

47:10Jackie Oshry:It would have been very endearing to people if they did give up this dream life of being a princess to never be seen again. People would really like them. And want to see them.

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51:47Claudia Oshry:Every style, every turt. True. Our fizz and vinyl story, some breakup news. This is a crazy story. Dak Prescott and his lady love, Sarah Jane Ramos, are heartbroken after calling off their engagement five weeks before their wedding in Italy. On their bachelor, joint bachelor-bachelorette party. And they have two kids. Yeah, like what? What happened on that bachelorette party? I don't know, but Dak Prescott, who's the quarterback of the Cowboys, who's a really big fixture in our house. In your home. News hits us hard. Yeah, how is the family taking it? You know, one day at a time. Right, right.

52:16Claudia Oshry:But we're hoping that this is what best for Dak's self. But I don't know. This feels like his lady love. I feel like they're going to be in each other's lives because they have kids together. But, like, they should just be together. Yeah, it's just giving work it out, you know? So they were supposed to get married in one month in Lake Como. Like a party. You know, the deposit is down. I know. Probably, like, a million dollars is on the table.

52:39Jackie Oshry:Yeah, Logan Paul had, like, a celebrity wedding.

52:41Claudia Oshry:against what he said he spent four million dollars so dac and sarah jane are uh they nader sarah jane ramos um are both heartbroken that they're not getting married despite previous reports their rep adds there wasn't any rockiness in the lead up and there was no big argument or blow up it was a mutual decision they love their girls and they're committed to raising their children together in the most loving and positive way it's still shocking for them since this happened so recently and they ask for privacy while they sort everything out i'm sorry what like nothing i need No, I need to know more.

53:09Claudia Oshry:You need to stay together. Yeah, of course, if nothing happened. Or something happened. Something, of course, happened. You don't just, like, call off your wedding. They've been engaged for a very long time.

53:18Jackie Oshry:To your, like, life partner with whom you have two children.

53:21Claudia Oshry:Yeah, a two-year-old and a nine-month-old. Oh, that's really sad. I'm sorry. Like, figure it out. Yeah, unless it's giving. Unless it's unforgivable. Yeah, it's giving unforgivable.

53:31Jackie Oshry:Like, cheating, something. Yeah. I don't know. It's sad. That's really sad. Really sad. Imagine getting married like nine months after you gave birth. Couldn't quite literally. I am not. Like I could never be gay.

53:45Claudia Oshry:Yeah, it was about to be ten months after. She literally is probably Ruby's age.

53:48Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I could never. Wow. Weird. Weird. Let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where Jackie and I sort of give back to our community, try to help out the swirlies in me.

53:59Claudia Oshry:Hey, girlie. This is like the toast version. You have to do the hand too. because now I just do this and like people know. Yeah. That's how Jackie sees it.

54:10Jackie Oshry:Hey, girlies. You are the best part of my day every day. I need advice on my boyfriend's relationship with his mom. I know as boy mamas yourselves how serious this relationship is, but I don't know how to feel. I've always wanted to date someone who has a great relationship with their family because I do. But every time my boyfriend and I get into a disagreement, he goes home to Connecticut to his mom. Mind you, we live together in New Jersey. These aren't blow up fights either. It could just be a little disagreement and he just wants to go home. kind of weirds me out and I'm also worried that if we do continue dating he's gonna go home when

54:37Claudia Oshry:we argue what is she gonna think of me his mom that doesn't happen often but when it does I'm

54:41Jackie Oshry:really left confused help do I say something or do I let it go that's definitely a red flag and

54:46Claudia Oshry:as a future toxic boy mama I just want to say I don't know how I will feel if my adult son like isn't adulting like is you know what I mean I know because we joke that we're toxic boy mama I think we would be like ashamed. Yeah, like I want him to be like a great man, a good husband. And like, I'm not going to stand in the way of that as much as like I love mama. Like I'm more so like that's really important to me. So I don't endorse like just anyone just choosing their mother over their partner. Agreed. When that's not what. That means that we haven't done our job. Yeah, it's really true. So this is a red flag.

55:21Claudia Oshry:I mean, I wonder what's happening when he's going home. But the fact that he can't even just like hash it out when you have an argument or a disagreement. If he was going anywhere.

55:28Jackie Oshry:I was going to say, it's weird that he's going home, but the fact that he has to take time off when you guys just have a minor disagreement is a red flag. And just in terms of being a good communicator. He could be going anywhere. The fact that he's going home, I guess it's better than going to a bar. But it just doesn't bode well for him as a partner, a communicator, a compromiser.

55:50Claudia Oshry:Grow up. Yeah, I think you have to have a conversation about this specifically and just like why he like walks away when things get hard. That's not what you're looking for in a partner. And it just yeah, I hope that he's not going home and then telling everything about you because you're right. The mom will not. Right. She's, of course, going to take his side. It's also like his perspective on it. Yeah, but I feel like you seem sound. I just like want to imagine. And I feel like when anyone ever tells me their story, like I do try really hard to like see the other side, see the other side just to help that person.

56:20Claudia Oshry:who's telling me their story could like rationalize with them um so i don't think it's like a feta complete that the mom's not going to like you but this is a kind of immaturity on your boyfriend's part that you guys should try and work on in the open yeah you got to bring it up yeah because it

56:36Jackie Oshry:doesn't bode well and it can't go on so bring it up confrontation hello swirlies i love your pod obviously and i need some advice so a couple of months ago i was away on a girl's trip and my husband spent the weekend at his best friend's house. No shade, but his best friend lives with his parents. He's pushing 30. So he spent the weekend at his best friend's parents' house. What I need help with is what happened on that Saturday. From what I know, they had a sleepover and woke up and spent the entire day on the couch. Where it gets weird is that they drank three bottles of barefoot Moscato, a red, a white, and then a pink, over the course of the day.

57:07Jackie Oshry:And where it gets weirder is they shared one glass.

57:10Claudia Oshry:Okay, Claudia. Is my husband gay? You know what

57:13Jackie Oshry:to say he doesn't find this weird at all is this normal relationship for a guy to have with his friend asking for a friend let me buy I want to say one thing obviously this is extremely like queer behavior however the fact that like he told you about it is the only thing stopping me from saying you know those immortal words your husband is gay like if you had found out about this in secret it's like case closed yeah but I don't know people who are like upfront about it like hiding and it was in his parents house like other people are home like just sounds like your husband might not be gay he might just be weird

57:49Claudia Oshry:the red flag to me is that he had a sleepover with his male best friend not in a gay way but in like an immature way that friend lives at his parents house I guess if you live at your parents house it's kind of sweet right because they have like the mother cooks and like right you're spending time with his family I feel like that's like a trope where it's like you go home and you get treated like a king and the laundry's done and there's a full course meal. Yeah, yeah. So he just wants to like live the life.

58:15Jackie Oshry:Yeah, he sounds like a loser, not a straight loser, honestly. Like why couldn't they have two glasses? The cup thing, yeah. Maybe like part of the arrangement of this friend living at his parents' house is like he's responsible for all of his dishes so he was just sort of minimizing cleanup. I don't know, but boys are just like weird.

58:32Claudia Oshry:If that's the case, then the parginess of going to someone else's parents' house is lost because you're meant to be like taken care of, you know, mama's home cooking. Yeah, I guess you could look at it more as the angle

58:39Jackie Oshry:of like he spent time with his friend's family, not like he had a sleepover with his guy best friend. I don't think he's gay, but I don't like think he's cool.

58:47Claudia Oshry:Yeah, I don't love this. I need to understand more like the reasoning for the sleepover. Like she makes the best lasagna.

58:55Jackie Oshry:But you didn't even make it such a big deal that he had a sleepover with his adult male friend. Like are people having sleepovers in there? Like I can't remember the last, the last place I slept was your house. Oh, I guess we have sleepovers. Yeah, but that's like out of sheer necessity. Like I need a crib. No, we're like extremely close. like yeah and we're not gay incestual or gay yeah no no I'm really not concerned about the gayness to be quite clear because you know I like to look for more like beneath the surface gay it's funny

59:23Claudia Oshry:because like when something's so obviously that's what I said last week no to you yeah I know when

59:28Jackie Oshry:people are up front it's the nails thing you know like when people are up front yeah I don't think

59:34Claudia Oshry:yeah I would just try and get an understanding of why you went to like your friend's parents how like what's there for you what were the pros right I guess like he was like you were away all

59:44Jackie Oshry:weekend and he didn't want to be alone like that I get I don't like being alone either but he's a boy yeah agreed all right next up third and final dear Jackson Claude my birthday was a couple of weeks ago and my boyfriend gave me such a nice and thoughtful card I really teared up reading it now I recently found myself scrolling through my boyfriend's chat history with chat gbt i wouldn't say i was snooping but i was just curious what he asks it was mostly work stuff but i saw that he asked chat to write my birthday card is that fucked up i've asked chat to help me write thank you notes but i was super intentional with what i wrote for his birthday and this just feels kind of icky what do you think i'm obviously not going to tell him that i know but next time he writes me a card i'm not going to take it as seriously because he didn't do it himself what's next chat gbt wedding vows this is a very interesting dilemma this is an interesting dilemma because it's partially thoughtful that like he really wanted to write a nice card like knew maybe his own limits and like sought out help but like dig deep yes but as someone I

1:00:33Claudia Oshry:personally have I'm a deep feeler I feel things very deep yeah I have a lot of depth I have a really hard time putting to words how I feel without like sounding like a cliche like a hallmark heart like when I say like I love you forever like that's like everyone says that but like I mean every word of that like how do I convey how I feel like I I feel like this honestly I might do this.

1:00:55Jackie Oshry:I am feeling inspired, but I do see how it can be insulting. And it's like, if you're a genuine person, like you mean every word of that card, I think it's, yeah, it's a little bit not romantic, but he wanted to put to words how he feels about you.

1:01:12Claudia Oshry:And if he meant every word, I think that means a lot. Yes.

1:01:15Jackie Oshry:And I think like we could look like your perspective on this is going to like, is going to matter. Like, yes, you could see it as like phoning in, but most people don't even write cards. I just want to say. And then he like maybe knew his own limits and really wanted it to be nice. I actually think you can look at it as being really thoughtful. Like.

1:01:32Claudia Oshry:And I also just want to know what the prompt was. Was it like write my girlfriend a birthday card? Or did he have to write like all of his feelings and say make it sound nice? Yes, exactly. Because that's what I would do. I want to say that you're the best thing that's ever happened to me. But again, that's such a cliche. But like, what if I meant every word? What if Shakespeare like knew my feelings and wrote them? Right. So I kind of appreciate the effort as someone who like struggles to put my feelings on paper. Like I can relate and it doesn't make it less genuine to me. No, change your perspective on this.

1:02:02Claudia Oshry:It's actually sweet now that I've like thought it through.

1:02:04Jackie Oshry:Yeah. Especially if you know the guy. Like, yeah, if he's like a good boyfriend and is very thoughtful, like this actually can be seen as thoughtful.

1:02:11Claudia Oshry:As long as he meant it. Correct. Not just like, oh, I just want to write a card. but who if you just wanted to write a card with words you didn't mean you can think of those yourself I don't think he would go to the effort and it's this whole thing of like you know fire this off for me no she said it was mostly work yeah I think he really just wanted to write you

1:02:29Jackie Oshry:the perfect card but we do need to be mindful of how we rely on chat like we really do yeah but

1:02:34Claudia Oshry:like I find myself slipping sometimes like whenever I want to write like an email that I find is uncomfortable for me to write not that there's anything crazy but I'm just trying to convey something and I want it to sound like not awkward I asked chat for help and you know what in my 33 years of life I've not been able to do it on my own so like thanks chat like I wasn't improving correct now I can do it I know I don't know if everybody's using it like in that sort of I use it in a very earnest manner yeah and I'm gonna various people out there I'm gonna give people the benefit of the doubt that they are too yeah of course well that's your toasters thank you

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