Econ 101: Tuesday, March 18th, 2025

18 Mar 2025 · 1 h 18 min

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The Toast - Episode Summary: Econ 101 (March 18, 2025)

Hosts

  • Jackie Oshry (@JackieOshry)
  • Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob)

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Episode Overview In this episode of *The Toast*, Jackie and Claudia discuss a variety of trending topics and pop culture stories, followed by an advice segment where they answer listeners’ dilemmas.

Key Stories Covered

  1. Tracy Morgan's Incident at Knicks Game
  2. Tracy Morgan was taken out of a Knicks vs. Heat game in a wheelchair after vomiting courtside.
  3. Initial concerns about his health were raised, but he later stated it was food poisoning.
  1. Patrick Schwarzenegger's Skims Photoshoot
  2. Patrick Schwarzenegger and his fiancée Abby Champion participated in a risqué Skims photoshoot promoting their wedding collection.
  1. Hilaria Baldwin's Accent Controversy
  2. Hilaria Baldwin defended her "natural" accent changes after backlash, citing her multicultural upbringing and experiences with code-switching.
  1. Forever 21's Bankruptcy
  2. Forever 21 files for bankruptcy again and plans to close all U.S. stores, attributing struggles to competition from foreign fast fashion brands.
  1. PepsiCo Acquires Prebiotic Soda Brand Poppi
  2. PepsiCo buys Poppi, a prebiotic soda brand, for nearly $2 billion, signaling a growing trend in healthier beverage options.

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Key Discussions

Pop Culture Insights

  • American Idol and Carrie Underwood: Jackie discusses the softer, more supportive nature of current American Idol judging compared to past seasons.
  • Generation X Perspectives: Claudia humorously claims to represent Generation X, sharing their opinions on various pop culture figures and trends, including Tom Cruise and Hilaria Baldwin.

Personal Reflections

  • Jackie and Claudia reflect on their experiences with the realities of adulthood, including financial responsibility and the changes that come with starting families.

Advice Segment

Dear Toasters

  • Submission 1: A listener worries about their parents reading explicit scenes in a fantasy book series. Jackie and Claudia suggest that the book isn't as explicit as the viewer fears, advising the listener to stay calm and let them read.
  • Submission 2: A listener is concerned about their husband's overly emotional secretary asking if he is alone during phone calls. The hosts advise to monitor the situation, explaining that the secretary's behavior is unprofessional.
  • Submission 3: A bride-to-be is upset about her future mother-in-law inviting a sports mascot to her bridal shower and wedding. Jackie and Claudia suggest that it's appropriate for the wedding but not for the bridal shower, encouraging her to assert her preferences.

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Key Takeaways

  • Cultural Commentary: The hosts provide insights on the current state of American pop culture, highlighting shifts in media representation and audience expectations.
  • Navigating Relationships: The advice segment emphasizes the importance of communication and setting boundaries in personal and professional relationships.
  • Trends in Business: Discussions around brands like Forever 21 and Poppi reflect broader themes of sustainability and consumer preferences in today's market.

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Closing Remarks Jackie and Claudia wrap up the episode by thanking their listeners for sharing their stories and encouraging them to continue submitting questions for future advice segments. The episode is filled with humor, personal anecdotes, and a touch of nostalgia, making for an engaging start to the week.

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Episode Links

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Notes

  • The casual and humorous tone of the podcast fosters an engaging environment for listeners, with relatable discussions on everyday life blended with celebrity culture.

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0:20I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Tuesday, also known as Tuesday. Speaking of the girl I choose today and every day, it's Jacqueline Follet. Hello, Turday. How you doing? I'm doing good. Happy Tuesday. I feel like yesterday was a long one, you know. Yesterday was in Nalafi. The day itself was in Nalafi. So I was hoping today we'd be further through the week, but we're not. But we will toil away until we are. Jackie, don't spend your life waiting. It's true. No, we're like wishing away. I don't want to spend my life waiting. Like, yeah, this is life. No, not spend my life waiting.

1:08To wake up one day and find. Have you been seeing Carrie Underwood on American Idol? The reviews are in and they are rave. No, I haven't been seeing her on American Idol. Oh, as you know, I'm diving more into the hobbies and interests of Generation X. And American Idol definitely is included in that. And I've just been seeing it on TikTok. But there are so many viral auditions and people love. There's like a sound going viral where this girl, she's about to sing. And she's like, what do you do? And she's like, oh, I'm just a stay-at-home mom. And Carrie was like, you are not just a stay-at-home mom.

1:43It's very powerful. Very empowering. Yes, yes. So lots going on with the Gen X community. Also the Gen X community. And what's her vibe as a judge? Like, is she harsh? Is she sweet? I feel like she'd be a Paula. So it's not the American idol. It's not your daddy's American idol, you know? Like, back in the day, there was like a ruthless one. Yeah. They're all, and they would bring people on who are, like, they knew were terrible singers. To embarrass them. To embarrass them. Yeah. Now, in the age of, like, bullying and wokeism, the fun is over. Like, we could never have William Hung. No. Like we did.

2:17so they bring in people everyone who can sing but they say no to people who are like not ready who need to work on like their breath work or whatever there's nobody who's like embarrassingly bad or anything so it's not as fun so there's nobody who's like evil got it okay they're all like middle of the road it's a softer american idol and me and my fellow generation xers you're not about that yeah we miss the days of like brutality cruelty bullying exactly yeah that's just me and my gang we live to rock we rock to live a brief update from my generation um they wanted me to speak on behalf of us like letting you know specifically the hilaria baldwin yes i know i'm the hilaria baldwin of everything because i also pretend i'm latin just like hilaria i also pretend i'm a different you are correct i'm trans latin i'm transgenerational x like transgenerational It's really crazy.

3:14Yeah. Like I am. What else? I see a community. I see a community and I want to be a part of it. You know, I don't think that's, I think it actually speaks to my yearning for like to be a part of something like the inclusivity. So what generation X wanted me to tell you yesterday is you were wrong. They do not stand Tom Cruise. Like that's not their boy. Like they know he's a freak. We know he's weird. We do not saw. Oh, that's overwhelmingly what I saw. Like they wanted you to know, like maybe at one point in time he was on his way to being what you think he is, but he's not for my generation.

3:44I don't know, but maybe yours. I don't think you're in touch with your community and I think you need to get back to work. You could not be more wrong, actually. You could not be more wrong. Get back to work. Guys, tell her. Tell her. Why would he be the one doing the Olympics if he wasn't the symbol of American stardom? Oh, oh, I have such a simple answer for this. Tom Cruise is at the helm of an extremely powerful cult within Hollywood. I just want to say like I haven't watched all the Scientology documentaries so like forgive me if I'm off but like they're a bunch of freaks like nobody is like I don't know I just feel like they're on the outside.

4:26Within Hollywood there are a lot of really powerful people who are a part of it so it definitely still carries its weight. The public, like we have had our eyes, we're going clear as Leah Remini would say, like we have had our eyes opened, but within like the confines of like structural Hollywood, like there's powerful studio execs, there's powerful actors. Lame them. They do in the documentaries and stuff. Lame them. No, and then the powerful actors like are Tom Cruise. Like he's bringing the power. He's got the power. Yeah. I would definitely say their star power as like, you know, as the generations move on is weaning.

4:58Like I don't know who the modern Tom Cruise is. I don't know that there's like a. Elizabeth Olsen. no not olsen don't do not disgrace the good name olsen elizabeth moss yes she's i'd say now like the second most famous scientologist and she's barely famous so yes but she gets a lot of work so it makes you think yeah no it does prove your theory peggy olsen they intentionally confused us with that leave elizabeth olsen out of this she's like a good i think christian god-fearing woman. She is a good woman. She is a good she could be a Jew and believe in God. So that's I think my POV on the Scientology of it all and why Tom Cruise like still gets to like be Top Gun, Mission Impossible.

5:38Do you think the Scientologists are running the Olympics? No but I wouldn't be surprised if like the LA Olympic Committee had a couple of powerful Scientologists on it. Okay. Not to sound like a crazy conspiracy theorist but. Okay. There's crazier I've heard crazier things. I've heard crazier rumors. And I want to wish you a happy one year anniversary. Of? Keeping Up With Sports was announced one year ago today. Wow. How are we going to celebrate? Thank you to Liz Woods on Instagram for reminding me of that milestone moment. How are we going to celebrate? I seriously, like, I want to call up Caitlin and Lamar and be like, what the fuck?

6:17At this point, the podcast can't be coming. It doesn't take you a year to get your podcast off the ground. And the crazy thing is if you go to the podcast Instagram page, there's one video. It's at Keeping Up With Sports. There's one post on it. It is a trailer of an episode they clearly filmed. So there was a pilot. I wish I had any direct line to anyone who I could call up and get clarity about this. You know, if we really wanted to know, we could ask. Who?

6:47BD. Oh, yes. He would know. He would know. Yeah, ask him. He's on L.A. time. I feel like he wouldn't know. But he's definitely up. He works hard. He's not one of those L.A.s that sleep to loom. Do you know anything about the Lamar Odom, Caitlyn Jenner podcast about sports that never came out? Question mark. Where is it? What's the status?

7:12What's the status? Okay, I'll let you guys know. Okay, yeah. Because I'm really getting frustrated. Like the curiosity is killing me. I've waited a whole fucking year. I'm out of patience. Happy anniversary to you. Imagine if, like, Keeping Up With Sports, like, became a, whatever, a sports podcast. Imagine if it became a podcast, okay? Period, yeah. And, like, then that's, like, the sports podcast my husband listens to. I think he would like it. Yeah. You? You will love it. You will love it. Now, I'm really also excited. Big major announcement today. I know I said I wasn't going to do this, but I really couldn't help it.

7:50And I've recently decided on a baby name. And I want to share it with everyone so that we can, you know, hear two four and stop saying it, you know. Okay. The baby's name. His utero name or his, this will be his name at birth. This will be his name. Okay. Bowie. B-O-W-I-E. The name actually came to me in the most unexpected of ways. Jackie's son Harry just started calling the baby in my belly Bowie and you know what it's really grown on me it's really catching on we just asked him straight up like what should Claudia name the baby in her belly the baby boy and he said Bowie and like it was a one-off question like a couple of weeks ago ever since then well can I see Bowie where's Bowie's crib Bowie Bowie Bowie so much so Charlie Jackie's other son who like barely talks he only says the word basketball he's over here saying Bowie everyone's talking about Bowie he's the name on everybody's lips it sounds like the name on everybody's lips is going to be bowie gillorosh re-soffer i love that bigos and i know i said it wasn't going to be one of those girls who announces the name before but here i am well that's like it's definitely his in utero name and it does take a while to find one um you start it and whatever or you call it whatever it is that jackie was calling it dio for a while like claudio dio which i thought was hilarious it just it didn't catch on no no and that's yeah it worked like for me but i never felt like this is the ubiquitous name like of course when i was pregnant with harry his in utero name was elsie little camper and then when i was pregnant with charlie his utero name was larry little harry that one was easy it was actually really hard to not then name him larry i grew to love the name so much he could have been lawrence right and now i'm like seeing him i know him pretty well now that charlie he is such a larry he has like the vibe the aesthetic and like the overall physique of an older jewish gentleman named larry yeah he would have been a great larry but zach has an uncle named larry so it wasn't even an option oh so that settled that yeah all right okay otherwise we have so been larry this is the first and only bowie in our family it's true and it's not like inspired it's like it's a cool name it's also has it like something classic about it he doesn't know a Bowie.

10:01That's what I was going to say. Does he play with any boys named Bowie? We've never met a child named Bowie so it's totally original. It's almost like God sent it to Harry to give to me. It's a beautiful name. It's going to be hard to not name him that. I know. To be clear that is not his name. We're just messing around. But who knows. Anything can happen. If we start talking about Bowie like just know that's who we're talking about. That's Claudia's child in utero. Correct. In utero. Utero. How is your uterus? Such a loaded question. It's a lot going on. I would think so. Lots of action. I woke up at 6 a.m.

10:40I'm so hungry and thirsty. I would say that's like the leading symptom right now. Ravenous. Can't stop drinking water. I don't even crave Diet Coke. I'm so thirsty. I feel like I'm in the desert. Genuine hydration. I know the soda won't help me. I'm drinking like three Stanleys a day. And for me, that's insane. That's insane for anyone. Oh, is it? That's a lot. Three Stanley's Yeah Oh my god I finished my first Stanley Ready for the day That's like girls who are Hitting their water goals Oh girls who are Hitting their water goals Right here I cannot stop drinking water I'm so hungry I'm so thirsty And everything gives me heartburn I had a Crunchwrap Supreme Last night And As good as you remember I took a preemptive tum I knew it was gonna be bad But some things in life Are just worth it And like I woke up With heartburn I'm having heartburn regardless I might as well be happy Yeah With my Crunchwrap It was so fucking good Ben like took Sometimes when I ask him To make me dinner He like scraps it together He doesn't make it with love no and he's just like he's feeding his pregnant wife just like sort of checking a box yeah but because he recently went on the way on that golf trip and i like really struggled without him he's been feeling really bad um so he took his time making that crunch wrap supreme and let me tell you a little bit of love is the most important ingredient i agree how many did you have one just one like enough no it was and because i had so much water i was like so skinny and full They're kind of small.

11:58No, not when Ben makes them. I hate it. It was a 10-inch tortilla. Oh, mine was at least 12. And I know because I measured it. Because the recipe said 10-inch, and I got in there. With a ruler? With a tape measurer. I also saw Kristen Cavallari made a homemade Crunchwrap Supreme on TikTok, which is what inspired me because I had just seen it, and then Ben asked me what I wanted for dinner, and that's what I said. I saw it on Reels a few weeks ago, and I was definitely keeping it in the back of my mind. And she was wearing a bra. Correct. Yeah. And she used siesta? She used sieste. That's, thank you.

12:31That's what I meant. As did I. Siesta. I use Old El Paso. Old habits die. Old El Paso habits die hard. They won't die. Like, I refuse. There's nothing wrong with Old El Paso. I'm actually really happy to say that making the sieste swap was no change, like, totally tasty. Other times. I believe it. I've used other taco seasoning just because, like, sometimes it comes in a jar and it's just easier. I've done, I've gone that route and it's like, oh no. Oh no. A lot of times my husband insists on just like making his own taco seasoning. He's like that old El Paso is just salt, cumin. Like he thinks he knows what's in it.

13:03Let me tell you, it's disgusting. They put their foot in it. Yeah. It's like even the worst like low level grocery generic brand is better than whatever my husband's putting together. Like you don't know what's in there and you certainly don't know the proper measurements. You don't know the proportions. Yeah. He's obsessed. He thinks like it's so beneath him to do like. Well, it kind of is, but like I'll give Old El Paso a pass. We are who we are. I give Old El Paso a pass, but when I see like some people like making recipes and they do like, they pour out a bunch of like seasoning from a packet, like it definitely brings down the group average for sure.

13:35I think like as a consumer. Like do that shit off camera or pour it in a little bowl and then pour it in. If you're making content. Yeah, but if you're making content and I see that, like then I know it's a recipe like I might actually make one day. To me, it's like a signal. It's definitely, what do they say these days? It's a recession indicator. like when people start using exclusively like packed spices but i'm sorry if i see that in recipe i know it's somewhat attainable yeah no it definitely is attainable but it's just like when we're and do it all day in your house because i do it i'm not saying i don't but when we're making content it's not aesthetic like put that shit in the bowl yeah i put that shit like off camera in a little glass bowl okay that gets left on the cutting room floor like megan would never no and that's actually the interesting thing about aina in the last couple of weeks i told I've been watching a lot of Ina.

14:18She low-key uses like a lot of crap, like store-bought. But she just puts it in a nice bowl before. Like you never see the packaging. Yeah. That's the key. Yeah. Semi-homemade. Did you see Megan's Green Waffles? I did. I saw them. First I saw them in a way, because I realized I don't follow her. So I'm like missing. What? I know. And then even when I realized that, I didn't follow her. But I'm going to do it right now before I forget. So I am missing like things as they happen. And then I like see it, you know, on Instagram. Daily Mail. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And people were like. So it was always through a negative lens.

14:51People were really, always through a negative lens. People were really clowning on her. Like a picture of like Kate, you know, at the helm of whatever she was doing for St. Patrick's Day. And her green wares, like just cargy. And royal. A picture of that. And then a picture of the waffle. Not a fair comparison. I will say the waffle like did look scary. But it was just like an Instagram story. People are so hard on her. Like she was just making breakfast with her kids on a Sunday. like being festive. She posted on a Monday, but it was St. Patrick's. So she was showing what they did on Sunday. Oh, okay.

15:21That makes it better because then I watched her story and I saw the green breakfast and this is not relatable to me. Why? I feel like you're always getting festive with your kids' food. Not for breakfast. Okay. Not for breakfast. If you had like unlimited time and like space, you might be doing that. I might be. I'll tell you what I am going to do. I am going to do that rainbow fruit plate one day. It was parching. And the amount of crudite that she says that her kids eat, which I believe her because why would she lie about that? Like because she arranges it in the way that she does. My kids don't eat crudite.

15:53Maybe they would. All right. Well, let's get on it. If I arranged it in a rainbow. Maybe if you put on a flower sprinkle. Yeah. I actually would try that because that's really fun and cute. We have so much to do today. I know. So it's Deer Toasters Tuesday. And let me tell you, the submissions were making me giggle. It's DTT. And not to, you know, be that girl. No updates from, you know, the one. Um, we also have stories that I actually picked today because I was up at the, tell me what, what didn't I do this morning? I was up at the crack of dawn. I got up, like was early. I ordered breakfast.

16:25I was like, yeah, let me choose stories. Let me take some things off my sister's plate. Like I was so productive. I made a TikTok. Like I was so busy. Um, no, that was really helpful. Plus I went to mommy and me this morning, which is why I look like I went to mommy and me this morning. You were sending like cute class pictures. So I knew you were busy. Yeah. So it really worked out. I'm just sat. I got the stories up. And there were like good stories too. Yeah, plenty. We had an excess. And you watched White Lotus. And I watched White Lotus. So I don't know where that fits into the show. It might not fit in.

16:53And I really don't have that much to say. Yeah, I mean, I talked about it yesterday. Do you want to just be like really brief and talk about it right now? Yeah, you said like it was a really good episode. It wasn't. It was like literally over the course of three hours. And they were just like dancing. I liked it. I didn't like dislike it. But nothing happened. And like my boy is still struggling. I want better for him. Who's your boy? My boy, Thomas Ravenel. Oh, yeah. Love him. That was like a really dark scene. I need things to turn around for him in a major way. I know. And I really need him to tell his wife.

17:26Like, I actually think it'll make him feel better. He's taking on this burden entirely on his own. She can't handle it. I know. She's so fucking funny. She like actually wouldn't be able to handle it. I understand why he's not telling her. She can't even handle Piper staying the year here. In Taiwan. In Taiwan. um i actually was liking saxon because like he doesn't do drugs which i like appreciated him taking a strong stance until he was peer pressured there was a like a big power dynamic shift with the brothers like it was for the first time the weenie brother yeah what's his name lachlan lachlan is like becoming like a big man on campus weenie and he's like he was the one who kissed the other brother i know like i actually think that maybe saxon didn't take the pill because he i thought he spit it out because he threw it in his mouth like let's go and he could have easily taken it out because he wasn't acting out of turn and he didn't even go to like make out with his brother but Lachlan didn't and the White Lotus um one of the writers was interviewed like about the incest scene and saying that's like an important theme and I just feel like I could really really live without incest like to me that actually is where I draw a personal line yeah it's like even though like Jamie and Circe is like the but that's like medieval times like you know and like I honestly shipped them they were so cute yeah it's just different when it's like a different time because like you don't have to deal with it like as in present yeah and like yeah like make sense of it knowing what I know now and I think it was maybe like more commonplace and I'm sorry like if they're suching as soulmates those two were perfect for one another so also like John and Danny yeah but that was like aunt uncle like it was much more distant auntie nephew lovin correct correct our favorite kind of lovin um so yeah they smooched oh leslie bibbs husband had his big moment that's what everybody's talking about with his speech about it's really fucking crazy that was really crazy and the other actor rick who was just like listening in disbelief the whole time was actually making me laugh that was like a fun little um moment with her husband in real life leslie babe um but i was really shocked everything that was coming out of his mouth was even crazier than the sentence before yeah yeah it was really crazy everyone's like give him the emmy like i don't think okay calm down like no it's not and if we're giving an emmy to one person from this show it's parker posey oh for me it's thomas ravenel or jason isaacs he's really being like the thing is he's doing an amazing job at acting the role that he was given whereas i feel like parker posey is creating this entirely new i don't know what was on the page yeah but what she what she delivered couldn't be written yeah and then like the women were just being like so losers yeah yeah i'm sorry that third friend i don't know anyone's fucking name thomas raveneau the third friend uh from gilded age when she takes her top off she is seriously one of the biggest losers and that's how i know she's a good actor because i don't think her as a person carrie the woman is an act is a loser but her fucking character yeah is like actually makes me sad no and the fact that movie star then hooks up with the guy so movie star is also making me sad and so it's clearly like she's a bitch yeah and like pushing this guy on her friend and like trying to get her to go for him when meanwhile she's been working him yeah and leslie bibb is the only normal one who like has obviously like a life she's not running away from at home because she's like can you guys leave yeah no like it's all we can have fun we're on vacation but like at some point like there's a fight starting at the club these freaks are in our villa can we go to bed yeah i liked that she said no to the shot and stood on her ground unlike saxon yeah correct um but yeah we have a lot to do today and really nothing happened and like honestly this show is i don't know what kind of press they have but like it's really crazy the way people talk about this show when like nothing happens yeah that's like the whole point of the show but people have definitely like made it into a bigger thing phenomenon than it is like it's a show and it's good and it's bad like it's just a show you know the thing about it is like it's neither good nor bad because it's nothing right it's nothing it's nothingness are you ready for the fast five stories i am ready for the fast five stories that are brought to you by quince who doesn't love the good things in life you know we enjoy a little luxury here and there, but of course it's not feasible to constantly be indulging in fabulous, you know, clothes and things.

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26:28Jolieskinco.com slash toast. I'm literally sweating. I'm always sweating. I smell. i have deja vu i know i'm just remarking on i feel like doing the ads is actually a very physical sport for me and and these days like with my breath work i need my mouth guard with like my inability to breathe and like now now i'm sweating i just needed to remark like after a four minute and 30 second ad break your girl is moist okay i will read the deets of this next story slowly so that you can recover yeah tracy morgan was taken in a wheelchair after vomiting outside the Knicks versus Heat game, not outside, courtside at the Knicks versus Heat game at Madison Square Garden.

27:11Very different. Tracy Morgan was taken away in a wheelchair after vomiting courtside at the game last night. A photo shared on X showed him hunched over and throwing up in his floor seat at Madison Square Garden in New York City. He was being attended to by a concerned friend. There's literally a picture of him throwing up. Yeah, there's also a video. I can't watch it. And they didn't like blur out the vomit, so I'm just gonna cover it. In a separate video, he's shown wiping his face with a white towel while being escorted out of the arena by medics. Eyewitnesses claim that he was bleeding from his nose and could barely stand up.

27:42The actor's medical incident reportedly delayed the game in the third quarter for about 10 minutes. Reps for him haven't responded to comment, but a spokesperson for MSG told The Post, we hope Tracy feels better soon and we look forward to seeing him back courtside. Tracy is a lifelong Knicks fan, so all of the Knicks are really rallying around and sending him well wishes. He's kind of the face of the Knicks. Like, if you go to a Knicks game, They're always playing videos of him like to get people hyped up to like make more sound. He's like a lifelong fan and probably one of the most famous fans.

28:11And I can't lie, when I first saw this, I was like, lol, this is so Tracy Morgan. And I definitely thought because he had gone on maybe like a year or two ago on Hoda talking about how he loves Ozempic. Yeah. And how it's amazing because he still eats Doritos, but he's losing weight. And so I saw this and I'm like, oh, he got too excited at the Knick game. He ate a little too much and he threw up. That's so Ozempic. But then hearing the details about him being escorted out in a wheelchair with a bloody nose not being able to stand, it's obviously, I think, a much more severe case. And it's actually really sad.

28:42Yeah, I feel like it might have to do with something larger than just nausea. Because usually you could maybe make it to the bathroom. No, even pregnant women in their first trimester make it to the bathroom. to really be unable in that moment to even get up and go to the bathroom. Like that, I think is like a sign of something much more serious. Yeah. He has a history of serious health issues over the years. He has diabetes, which is what put him on Ozempic. He went under, he got a kidney transplant in 2010. Of course, he sustained life-threatening injuries from his accident. So I don't know.

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29:17I feel a little worried for Tracy. I do too. And I feel bad. Like, is there anything worse than being sick? So embarrassing. And instead you're being filmed courtside and the game is delayed 10 minutes. Like if anybody had thrown up courtside, because there's non-famous people who sit courtside. Like it might have been a story like fan throws up, but it's such a big spectacle. And there's literally a picture and a video of it because it's Tracy Morgan. And like that element is obviously smaller than what's going on with his health. But it's a real like you're you feel humiliated. And it makes me really sad.

29:49If Tracy Morgan has no fans, like rip to me. I love this man as a New Yorker, as a 30 rocker, and he's just a lover of all things comedy. And I don't, I feel like I don't, like Tracy's one of those people who I stand really hard, but like I never talk about him. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. You're very private. Yeah. Yes, exactly. I love him so much. I'm like really sad. Yeah. And honestly, it's like not a good week for sitting courtside. Maybe you guys should take Jennifer Hudson hitting the face with the ball at the Knicks game. That was literally two weeks ago, but okay. I think that was last week.

30:22It's not a good month. No way. No way. When did we talk about her in common? Like literally two weeks ago. Maybe two weeks ago, but maybe last week. What's today's date? Today is the 18th. So I'm saying it's like last Monday to Friday. Okay, so four days ago she reacted to it. But when did she get hit? Basketball. Let's see. I'm looking through our episodes. When did we talk about it? That's a good call. I need to know, like, if March 4th. Okay, so two weeks ago. Three weeks ago. Three weeks ago. Oh, my gosh. Time is flying. Oh, no, no, no. Sorry, two weeks ago. Exactly. My bad. Time's flying.

31:10Yeah, the Knicks are kind of a mess. The Knicks are kind of a mess, but they did win last night. Was Ben happy? They beat the Heat. We went to bed at 9 o 'clock. It was like Jax or Claude. Literally. We missed it. We went to bed at nine o 'clock. Oh, and a fun fact about Ben is that he's a huge Knicks fan, but we recently switched from traditional cable. We cut our cords like true millennials, very not Gen X of me. You should get them back. And we have YouTube TV and they do not, you can't get access to MSG network, which is like the New York local network that plays all the Knicks games. Now, if the Knicks game is like a, you know, against the Lakers, it's broadcast nationally on ESPN.

31:42But for like the everyday games, we can't watch it. So then I'm like, okay, let's get MSG plus. Like the stream is 60 bucks. It was, or maybe 30 bucks a month. It was nuts. It was like more than my YouTube TV. I'm like, I'm sorry. I do well in this life, but I can't like justify that monthly expense. Ben didn't want to pay for it. We like, we pay as a household. No, but what if he was like, I will send you$30 every month. Like it's, I'm covering it. What if he said that? Like from his personal pot, personal pot. I don't think I would let him do something so financially irresponsible. But it's only how many months out of the year?

32:22Pirate it. Do it on, like, you know. And now you're advocating piracy. Or go to a bar. Go to your friend's house. Go to a bar. But no, but then he's not home. Oh, don't go to a bar. That's why I feel like he goes to the actual game. It's the only way for him to see it. Yeah, it's so true. So how much is he spending on tickets versus the$30 a month? But he would still be spending it on tickets. And I want to say, like, when we discovered this issue, I'm not like such a bitch when we discovered that YouTube TV didn't have MSG they actually had like a contract negotiation you know when that happens and so at one point you could watch it then like last year they couldn't reach a deal so I'm like okay we'll get MSG plus he never used it and I cancelled it after two months so I'm not a total bitch by the way okay I understand and maybe this is like the Gen Xer in me but like the older I get I've gotten like really cheap it's so crazy someone like will borrow Claudia's login for something and she's like oh wait I canceled it let me sign up like the minute you stop watching a show yeah it doesn't even occur I don't can't I like I probably pay for too many things but like I pay like I want to have it I just want oh my god and I'm so mad because I just discovered every time you want to watch a show you have to re-sign up for whatever platform yes yes and I just discovered because like after Theo died I got rid of like all my Theo stuff including my Furbo dog camera I just discovered I got I didn't cancel it it's annual but I just got charged again 72 bucks like I'm sorry that's insane I was really annoyed I actually called American Express and I fought the charge and you know I got my money back you fought the power I've really become really cheap even though Jackie's bar for cheap and my bar for cheap are completely different we're two different extremes for sure so I'm like obviously about to I'm about to have a child And that's, I think, what has encouraged me to, like, tighten the purse strings a little bit because it's – there's a lot – and I have a lot of bills, like, doctor's bills.

34:22And so, yes, I'm open to receiving free gifts as an influencer. Sorry. Like, I get stuff for free. And one of the things that I am accepting for free will be my crib. So I'm obviously not buying anything yet. We're a little superstitious. But I'm looking at the offerings from the gifted companies. From the freebies. And I'm sending it to Jackie. And she's, like, sending me back, like, shit from Pottery Barn. And I'm like, well, I can't get that for free. like and I want these they're expensive she won't buy her son a crib Jackie's like you're so cheap you won't buy your son a crib uh you're fucking crazy like I have all like you're just wrong that doesn't make me cheap okay no no I I think it does make you cheap but like that's that's not necessarily wrong like okay so you won't buy your son a crib okay so you won't get the one that you want okay yeah I can't get the exact one that I want but I could find a really similar one from the websites that have offered to gift it.

35:13Yeah, okay. Like, I'm fine with that. But then, like, they keep, every time we find one that we like, it turns out, like, oh, no. It's, like, sold out in that color on that website. Or, like, they're not giving away that color, and it's, like, they're only giving, because they have, like, the ugliest one. No, I ended up with a really nice one. Because you won't just, like, buy the one that you like. Yeah, no, I won't. And if you guys feel like my cheap energy radiating in the next couple of weeks, just know, like, yes, I'm entering my cheap era, And I actually blame Rocket Money. When we did that ad for Rocket Money a couple of weeks ago, it actually really did inspire me.

35:43I did the monthly subscription thing. That's how I found out about Furbo. So you didn't pay for it? I've been paying for what? Rocket Money? Yes, but it's a worthy expense. But they really helped me. I canceled so many. I was paying for two Kindle Unlimiteds. Like, I didn't even know. When you have multiple credit cards, I blame Brian Kelly. Like, I have a lot going on. So they really, and that has kind of, like, kicked my ass into gear. I've become really cheap. Understood. Well, I think it is good and... And please, I don't like the word cheap because I feel like I prefer fiscally responsible.

36:18I don't think I could say I'm cheap, you know? I'm a Birkin. Yeah. I don't think it's... I think most people... We're very different, but I'm also fiscally responsible. I'm not irresponsible. I'm not... You're not fiscally irresponsible, but I wouldn't say you lead with fiscal responsibility. responsibility i i definitely do i take into account all things including my happiness correct but like fiscal responsibility is an umbrella term that we both could stand under that umbrella however like we're not the same yeah my umbrella is like bigger no so like there just needs to be a different one i understand if you don't want it to be cheap and i won't label you as that i'm not cheap but let's go to the source.com slash cheap no go to the source.com for fiscally responsible.

37:01I think that saying the purse strings are very tight is fair. Yeah, the purse strings are tight. So she's a tight purse stringer. But in certain eras of my life, you know, back in my dink era. Coach, economical. You are economical. I am. But I'm not always. Like, I think that I really try to let my economics be reflective of my phase of life. Like, when I was going to St. Bart's and I spared no expense, Like that was my dink, dual income, no kids. Now my circumstances are changing and I need my economics to reflect that. Yeah, I understand. And accepting a free crib doesn't make you cheap. No, not on its face, no.

37:43But you guys haven't seen what we've been through, how many iterations of this when she just won't buy the crib that she likes. Yeah. Or the next one or the next one or the next one. Yeah, but I ended up last night like I decided on a really pargy one. Which one? The one that you liked. Okay, cool. hopefully they'll give it to you please give it to her you guys like please let me actually you know let me just take a minute be like everyone please if she reaches out for free stuff like please give it to her for my sake okay or else I'll be getting canva edits of nursery rooms for months yeah and for the most part like in my influencer career like a huge part of being an influencer just like getting free stuff which you also sometimes hate it is my least favorite part of this job.

38:25It's so wasteful. I accept no gifting. Like when PR comes to my house that I didn't approve, I actually return to sender. I do not like it. It's just not ever anything that I need. It's such a waste. And it's just like a part of this job that I do not like. That part of my life is over. And I'm now open to it accepting all maternity and baby-like gifts. Okay. And just wait till you get the actual gifts. You know you can register for stuff and your friends and family will buy it for you. Of course I have the baby list app. Don't worry about me. I know but like if you're getting everything gifted like what's left for us?

39:01So I wasn't going to make a registry because I'm like why would I ask my friends to buy me stuff? And then my friend Margo was like but people are going to buy you stuff because they love you and you've bought people stuff. So it might as well be things that you want or need. So make a registry. Why don't you make a registry of all the things that you couldn't get? No I think I'm going to make a registry of things like I would never that are like opulent. You know like a Ralph Lauren sweater. I would never buy that like for a baby. I understand. Yeah. I'll have to think about what to get you. So much fresh.

39:31I told you last night what to get me. So you're good. Yeah. You did? Remember we were looking at my edit and Harry said, where's the blanket? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. She wants an Hermes blanket. Okay. Yeah. I feel like I'm not a real influencer. Aren't you glad I'm not cheap? So true. You're not a real influencer if like your nursery doesn't have an Hermes blanket. But I'm sorry, do you know how much those are? I'm not buying it. But it's actually cheap compared to the living room one. Yes, because this is the baby one. Because, yeah, it's much smaller. It's not cheap, but yeah. No, I thought it was$1 ,200.

40:05Wait, maybe it is. Hold on. Regardless, I'm not buying it. So that's definitely something I'm open to receiving. I understand. And that's a great gift. No, the baby one is$1 ,200. It's the other one that's like$3 ,000. Okay, cool. I'll start saving. Nuts. Nuts. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. Little White Lotus news because White Lotus star Patrick Schwarzenegger strips down to his undies with his fiancee Abby Champion for a Skims photo shoot. So Skims per usual on the pulse. They have tapped Patrick Schwarzenegger and his model fiance to model for their wedding shop return. So the two of them are engaged and they are modeling the latest wedding Skivvies for Skims.

40:47Skivvies is a great name for a lingerie company or like an undergarment company. Yeah. I love this. This is the second time Skims has tapped like a viral person from White Lotus. Obviously the two Italian hookers last season, which everybody loved. My God, did they fall off the face of the earth? Like what happened to them? That's classic White Lotus. Classic White Lotus. Although I think Patrick Schwarzenegger and his fiance have a little bit more staying power for a lot of reasons. She's also like a huge model. She's one of the big faces, the new faces of Tommy Hilfiger. So this is like a great get for Skims, but also for Patty and his girl.

41:21Yeah. Yeah, she's very beautiful. They're very beautiful. This seems like a no-brainer. No-brainer. It's like a, yeah, it's really smart. And the pictures are pargy. He's really in just really stellar shape. Yeah. So is she. I hope, I wish them lots of love. He was totally naked in the shoot, which. Yeah, holding flowers to cover his junk. Yeah, the junk. That's also a great name for a men's underwear company. I'm just kidding. What about Dong? It's a little harsh. I think I think you're not seeing the vision skivvies we should seriously trademark it yeah we should even though I don't wear skivvies let me tell you that are you saying you don't wear underwear or you don't wear underwear that would be described as skivvies that second one and when you think of skivvies are you thinking of like dirty undies with holes in them I'm thinking like a little something lace thong oh oh that's so funny I I feel like skivvies are like skid marked underwear.

42:18Ew. With holes in them. Skivvy. Like old undies. Well, then it certainly shouldn't be a brand. I think it's just like little, big undies. Underwear, especially a set consisting of an undershirt and underpants or just the underpants. Cute. Yeah, skivvies to me like have holes in them. Okay. Well. That's what I picture in my mind. Okay. so maybe like we'll not start a brand called skibbies maybe we'll not maybe we'll not are you ready for our next story the claudia ashray of the latin world hilarious baldwin is defending her natural accent changes after mean backlash from the whole world so she's making a lot of news with their reality show in like actually a way that i think trends positively for the both of them well i i haven't seen the show i think the sheer fact that they have a reality show and then that show is also on TLC.

43:17Like, I think it's so crazy. I'm still stuck there. I'm stuck at the announcement. It's so shocking. When you really think about the breadth of Alec Baldwin's work, now, obviously, in recent years, he's had a bit of a fall from grace with Hilaria and then the Russ shooting, but he is, like, one of the biggest actors of our time, and it's just, like, really crazy to me that he's on TLC. I know, but I think it's very humanizing. Like, they have seven kids. That's crazy. That's not Hollywood. It's insane. And, like, they have this huge apartment. I saw a clip. Like, they have this huge two-story apartment in New York City, and he's like there's not enough room like I have no space and I think people I think it comes off like it is crazy to live in Manhattan with seven kids it's crazy and in a way that's like kind of endearing I think it's in a way I don't know that it's so like positive but it doesn't seem negative and I think like even the way she's talking about the whole scandal of the cucumber and everything and I actually for as much as she can defend herself like I can see it what is she said She insists her infamous acts and changes are completely organic.

44:16She defended herself in Sunday's episode of The Ball Winds as she explained that her multicultural background has helped her become, quote, a chameleon. She said, growing up in a way where you have multiple cultural influences on you means that you're never going to be able to fit in. You can try. You know. This is literally me when I pretend to be Latin. Or pretend to be Gen X. She said, you know, people who code switch were very good at chameleoning. And you don't even think. You're not even thinking about it. It's just normal. It's just natural. So code switching is when the practice of adapting mannerisms or dialect to fit into different social groups.

44:48It's really crazy to use the term code switching when you're not a Latin person. Like, that's insane. Well, she's literally like Anglo-Saxon from Boston. She has English and Spanish influences in her life. And she said. Influences. OK, so she knows somebody Spanish. She said she had to learn about code switching because the world was mean to her. So I had to learn it. It's code switching, she said. She compared it to when you're speaking to an elderly individual. You start talking really loud. You're going to emphasize. You're going to speak slower. And you're not even really thinking about it.

45:15You just start to do it. So it's just, it's something innate. It's not really something that she's like actively choosing to do. But she said, you never get used to people being mean, but you take a deep breath, and I think you learn to distance yourself from it. And so, you know, I just tried turning the volume down in my head a bit, and I'm not going to take it personally. So she had claimed back in, you know, 2020, she was busted for claiming that she was born in Spain when she was actually raised in Boston. Now, you know, I'm not one to go all woke. This is what she said. I just want to say, this is her words.

45:48She said, my parents raised, this was what she said to the controversy, sorry, back then. And I feel like we definitely dissected it, but I just want to remind you. My parents raised my brother and me with two cultures, American and Spanish. And I feel a true sense of belonging to both. The way I've spoken about myself and my deep connection to two cultures could have been explained better. I should have been more clear. And I'm sorry. and I'm sorry. I'm proud of the way I was raised and we're raising our children to share the same love and respect for both. Now it's entirely possible to have been raised with a culture and around a culture that's not yours.

46:20Like maybe you live in a cultural neighborhood or I think her father was like a professor of Spanish something. So I can understand that doesn't translate into an accent. Okay. Accents are regional. They are, I'm surprised she doesn't talk like Dave Portnoy. Like that would make more sense. She's from Boston. But sometimes, I mean if her parents aren't Spanish this is tough but like sometimes when people have parents who have an accent or speak a different they speak a little differently yes especially if the language that their parents speak is actually their first language that's what they learn at home and then they learn English her parents are not of Latin descent but maybe they spoke Spanish in the home a lot maybe they wanted her to have it maybe it's the parents fault we spoke Spanish in the home a lot not first not not as our first language I'm sorry this is like not to be all woke and you're of latin right not to be all woke but i'm sorry like i'm offended and i'm not defending her at all because i actually you are no i'm just i'm just arguing a little bit like to the point that maybe we could like she could be more than this one day you know what i mean like i feel like for so long it's like hilaria like i'm shocked they even got a question i'm shocked they even got a show because like that's how canceled she was let me ask you a question you think that maybe she we could move on from this and that she could be more than this scandal do you think jessie smolle could ever be more than his fake hate crime like for real do you think it's malaise thing it's like there's victims there was courts there's taxpayer dollars what this girl does on her instagram and in her it's a victimless crime who cares what's crazier is what's easier to move on from the fact that she faked her accent or her husband shot someone i know the thing is is that like i've definitely you find yourself moving on no not moving on i find myself like really having even though alec baldwin is like seriously one of the craziest people on the planet like i find myself having a lot of sympathy for him in the rust shooting like seriously not his fault like no part of it is his fault but at the end of the day of course and at the end of the day like alec baldwin has killed someone yeah through something y 'all have to live with yes through and and like a young woman a mother through no fault of his own i really believe that like i actually it's the craziest thing and I actually don't think about it that much because he has so much other stuff going on like 30 Rock is one of my favorite shows he's like a beloved Hilaria Baldwin like doesn't have a lot going on besides the scandal you know there's not enough like pros to outweigh the cons like you know it's like Karen Huger where she did something bad but you have so much love for her right and Alec Baldwin like is a complicated person for sure and he's you know thoughtless little pig he's had a lot of scandals but like I don't know I just can't quit him it's kind of the jack donaghy effect i understand i just feel like i feel like we can move forward from this well she is having a bit of a redemption arc like this show i think that's what i'm saying it's a little bit people who are watching it are opening themselves up to her i just want to let you know like i'm still at the restaurant i will be there for eternity it will never not be the weirdest thing ever to me she can explain it in however many accents and languages she wants she's her name is Hillary she's from Boston and she's white but what's also funny is that like so she was why is she different than Rachel Dolezal she was but it's not well I just feel like Hilaria continues to walk in her truth you know like she's so does Rachel by the way doing this like she's talking like Spanish Spanglish on the show and her kids have like Spanish names it didn't change her behavior I think her family does live in Spain now and and it's like it's not like she was busted for faking something it's like she was busted and but that's who she is and she's still doing it it kind of makes it better i do think what does rachel dolezal identify as now does she admit that it was like all a lie yeah like i feel like she was like faking it as a means to an end not because like that was what was in her soul you know i mean rachel dolezal was so crazy because not only was she not black but she was also the president of the naacp like she was doing that's like advance her job and like hilaria's doing this for hilaria's self well no she's doing it like to be like an interesting media personality but yes but she's even doing it in the home when no one's looking are her kids gonna have fake accents like because their mom does i think because yeah they speak a lot of spanish but i don't know i have to i would have to watch the show to see what their dialect is by the way she has kids who are 11 so like we'll know yeah sooner or later no we'll know if we just turned on the show oh right but i can't like i just can't get myself to do it no no i would i would only turn on tlc for the colpos I would only turn on TLC for my sister wives my strange addiction I didn't know sister the thousand pound sisters I didn't know I was pregnant and the man with the 19 pound screw that's it of course hoarders and um extreme couponing which you'll be on soon and you know I'll be on extreme cheapskates extreme cheap states is actually one of the most nauseating shows like you can't watch it with a full stomach maybe if you want it like If your ever cheapness is starting to bother you, you should watch that show.

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56:38He said, thank you all for your concern. I'm doing okay now. And doctors say it was food poisoning. He said, I appreciate my MSG fam for taking such good care of me. And I need to shout out the crew that had to clean that up. More importantly, the Knicks are now 1-0 when I throw up on the court. So maybe I'll have to break it out again in the playoffs. Okay, funny. I'm so glad. Because I feel like if there was like a major health issue that he hadn't shared yet, like now would be the time. so the fact that he has it like there's nothing and you know actually if you've had really bad food poisoning like you can't walk yeah and if you throw up really hard you can like start bleeding like your eyes get bloodshot so i'm thrilled to hear this yeah same you made oh honey you made a little joke get well soon trace face get well soon trace face that's really funny next story biz news forever 21 is filing for brain corrupts again and planning brain corrupts i hate when i go it's very sad and maybe they weren't honestly wait i kind of love that like brain corrupt could be like a new you know when like you can't like your mind goes blank like a kind of a brain fart you're brain corrupt yeah but they are bankrupt and probably brain from too um they're planning to call for like the second time and now this time they're gonna close all their u.s stores i feel like people always threaten us with this yeah but then every now and again like it actually happens I know Party City is still closing.

57:56Right. It's been a year. Bed Bath & Beyond. But they actually closed. Meanwhile, that's like a story we really need. And them going out of business has actually impacted me personally. My life in a negative way. Toys R Us, like gone. They're back. In Macy's. Right. So, and even Forever 21, they went bankrupt like two years ago. Yeah. Sometimes like going bankrupt is just like a flex. And then other times it is the demise. Sometimes it's a strategic financial move. You know, maybe I'll do it. Yeah. Save some money. To file Chapter 11. Like, I think you get cleared of all your debt or something.

58:29Yeah. And then you could maybe sign up for a couple more subscriptions. But because I'm so economical. Maybe you could finally get MSG+. Because I'm so economical, I don't have debts. That's true. She's in the green. I'm in the green. Nothing lasts forever. Not even Forever 21. The clothing retailer that was once a centerpiece in malls across America has filed for bankruptcy again and plans to close its remaining locations for good. in a statement the company said it can't compete with foreign fast fashion retailers that's always a good move to blame it on fast fashion blame she and everybody hates fast fashion except we're buying forever 21 is fast except we're buying it every day but we hate it it's so terrible and i like forever 21 is american she and to me how they weren't able to be successful is shocking they invented fast fashion no when i think of fast fashion i think forever 21 the reason why they're not successful is because they haven't evolved at all like so many brands recently like like the times have changed you know people aren't wearing like their little graphic tees anymore I feel like Abercrombie has really evolved yes PacSun has really evolved yeah Forever 21 has stayed the same and no they've stayed like obsessed focused on retail yeah which nobody shops anymore their website sucks yeah like Abercrombie is so that's a perfect example because they're from the same generation and they've totally rebranded is your sweatshirt abercrombie boys lie okay whatever but that's how you know abercrombie is getting mistaken for boys lie yeah no i shop abercrombie all the time actually just best place in order because i need new clothes um that's a great example like i don't know what forever 21 has been doing they just like kept the same formula and hoped that people would come and even like h &m has evolved zara is you know the fastest of the fashion they're constantly they do a great job gap like there's no like people could do it sure fast fashion blame the foreign retailers but like you didn't even try you didn't even try i didn't even know they were still around they took their success from like 10 years ago and thought it would just like they could coast on it they didn't evolve no they didn't evolve or die that's what they say and here we are dead so like not to victim blame but you played yourself no of course not but but you're wrong like sometimes the place closes and it's like oh we're wrong you know like we don't deserve of nice things.

1:00:44And they were crushing it. They were killing it. There was nothing more they could have done. Or it's like we're so online that we can't appreciate the Barnes and Noble. Even like Joanne Fabric's closing was like sad. You know we're not sewing enough and we're disgusting for that. Barnes and Noble. Barnes and Noble. And we're disgusting. Borders. And we're disgusting. This. I'm sorry this isn't on us. That you guys are disgusting. Forever 21. Yeah. So you should have been like our next brand. Oh yeah. poppy pepsico is buying the prebiotic soda brand poppy for nearly two billion dollars and we were just talking about them their big scandal i guess the vending machines didn't put them out of business oh my god they were probably like signing the paperwork and like quaking well i was you know i was thinking like a big stupid scandal like that like does that impact mergers and acquisitions obviously not i think at the end of the day rising tides no at the end of the day it's dollars and cents like oh okay people are mad about vending machines but like you guys make two billion dollars okay we'll take it right so pepsico buying this soda replacement it's like actually really crazy they must have been impacting the business yeah well enough soda sales have been going down except brands like poppy and olipop right prebiotics so prebiotic soda brands have become very popular coca-cola even recently launched its own prebiotic prebiotic soda brand called Simply Pop.

1:02:11So instead of launching their own, they decided to acquire Olipop, which I think is the better move. I agree. First of all, supports more businesses. They came from Shark Tank. They came from Shark Tank. It used to be called Mother. It was like made of vinegar. They got a deal with that guy who's like the beverage guy. He did the BAI drink by... Rowan? Yeah. Rohan, I think his name is. He's like super successful guy. But that was also years ago. So it's also interesting to see how long it took for them to get acquired because this is... and of course you know who was the guest shark on that episode and had to make 11 tiktoks about it bethany frankel um she kicking it was called it was called mother back then yeah um and it was a pregnant woman and her husband who launches business and it's remained female founded now they took on investors like from shark take also olivia munn was a big celebrity investor um alex earl was given equity a little while ago so i'm really curious to know how much percentage big house correct because even if she got one percent of the company which i think people are like she definitely got at least one percent no i think she probably got like a third of a percent because when it's that big of a company like those are the numbers you're working with but still even half a percent is seven million dollars yeah it's insane yeah um this is this is great news for the industry this is exciting for the founders it's big for women in business women in business for health it is great for this is really a brand that's gotten big from influencer marketing podcast marketing um so i think it's really good and and it's trending towards healthier soda okay well now of course because like poppy is just one of those brands because they're so chronically online there's backlash right like you sold to big evil pepsi and it's like can we just be happy for this woman-owned business so that's been happening with like a lot of like the good food brands that started because they're the clean alternative to the big Frito-Lay I think even like Siete sold to Frito-Lay something like that and people in like the natural food space are like very upset because they're like they're going to change the formulas well if they do change the formulas like then it just defeats the purpose but I don't think they're going to change the formulas and instead it makes it like more ubiquitous so that like you could get a poppy at a gas station on the side of the road and not have to get an unhealthy soda and you know I've actually been drinking poppy orange soda like when I was trying to drink less soda I kind of gave up on that but it's fucking delicious yeah I've got to find my flavor yes so not every flavor is gonna like rock your world and at first I was like this is what people are obsessed with and then Ben brought home this orange soda because he was doing like something with like a Fanta drink or whatever and he brought home the poppy orange soda and it was unbelievably delicious and I just need to add to our list of duplicates Ollipop and Poppy yes because they launched the same year they do the same thing and they have a similar name so i think that poppy like really invented an entirely new space they were the first to do this and then became the biggest and i think a lot of these other brands are inspired by them but i feel like the fact that they launched the same year just means like it's two people with the same idea because it takes a while to get something like this there's no way one wasn't inspired by the other you think because they're both soda replacements made of prebiotics why does that equal pop in the name so does pop equal soda soda Yeah, but like there's a lot of soda brands.

1:05:22And they were mother first. Right. And Alipop, oh, it was valued at$1.85 billion during its latest funding round, which was announced in February. Oh, maybe they're next. Coca-Cola. He said that, the founder said that Soda Giants, Pepsi, Coke, and Coca-Cola had already come knocking about a potential sale. But Coca-Cola bought, it started Simply Pop. No, they started their own, which is a flop. Yeah, so maybe they'll come back around. and it could be like the new Coke and Pepsi, Alipop versus Poppy. Yes. I like that. But like, could I still have a Diet Coke? Of course you can. And a Diet Dr. Pepper.

1:05:57Of course you can. Okay, cool. But yeah, I'm going to get into this. I'm going to get into it. We need to start making Diet Dr. Pepper like a little bit more ubiquitous. Like when you go to a restaurant and they have like, can you get a Diet Coke? Can you get a Dr. Pepper? No. Or like when you go to a restaurant now, you could probably get a Poppy. Like soon with PepsiCo distribution. If they have a fountain machine. Yeah, they'll get on tap. Well, that's the other thing. PepsiCo is so big. A lot of people don't realize PepsiCo owns like most of the fast food chains in this country. They own Taco Bell.

1:06:23So if you because you can get a Diet Dr. Pepper at Taco Bell because it's a PepsiCo owned and you'll probably be able to get a poppy at Taco Bell. I bet they'll do like a Baja Blast poppy. Yeah, which is why this is good. Yeah, even though, you know, they probably won't change the formula. But now you'll have your healthier option everywhere you go. Like that is good. And they can't do that without these huge companies. And they can't do it quickly. And by the way, PepsiCo also owns Frito-Lay. Who were you just saying got bought by Frito-Lay? I know it was Siete got bought by Frito-Lay. Yeah. So they own like every chip.

1:06:52They own Gatorade. They own Mountain Dew, Diet Dr. Pepper, Tostitos, Ruffles, literally everything. Yeah, yummy. This is making me hungry. I'm just starving always. I'm really hungry. Let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where Jackie and I try to help the girls out. Every Tuesday, we take three submissions in a little segment we call Dear Toasters, where our listeners, the toasters, write in about little pickles they found themselves in. Sometimes it's wedding related. Sometimes it's friendship related. You guys got some big pickles. These ones are really funny this week. If you ever want to write in, please, we would love to hear from you.

1:07:30Deartosters at gmail.com is the email account you can write to. Or you can head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. There's a little submission box when you scroll down. Both means are completely anonymous. Don't worry. Let's do it. Hey, girlies. I'm kind of freaking out. I'm sure you've heard of the Fourth Wing series in case you haven't. It's a book series in the fantasy genre, but it also has a lot of like good smut and porn in it. My parents know I've been reading this series and loving it. Did you read Fourth Wing? I read the first one and then stopped in the middle of the second. I got like so confused.

1:07:56No, no, that's fine. It's over. Yeah, it's over. It stinks, and I don't even think Margo liked the third one. Okay, so look. My parents know I've been reading this series and loving it. They don't know what it's about, but recently one of my mom's friends told my mom to start reading it. I tried to do everything I could to convince my mom she wouldn't like it and not to start it, but much to my dismay, she's already two chapters in and loving it, loving it so much in fact that she got my dad to start reading it. Please, what do I do? I'm mortified and I'm so anxious just waiting for them to get to the part where there's actual porn.

1:08:24My family is close but we do not talk about that stuff. I don't think I can get them to stop reading so my question is more about how do I deal with the situation? Right now, I'm not bringing up the fact that there are the most descriptive sex scenes you've ever seen in this book but once they get there, how do I tell them? There's a 50-50 chance that they either bring it up as a joke or completely ignore it but genuinely, I'm panicking so anything you can tell me would be great. Love you guys so much. I've truly asked everyone in my life what to do, but I need the advice of my swirlies. But also, by the way, I'm 26 years old and a girl, if that helps.

1:08:49Okay, I just want to say, I feel like Fourth Wing wasn't that smutty. I actually remember when we did the Redheads episode, like there were complaints that like the smut, there wasn't enough smut and it happened much later in the book. Okay, but the bar for the Redheads and smut is very different than this girl's dad. Okay, I just want to say, the smut, I think we like literally said it didn't happen until like the second half of the book. I don't think your dad's going to read that much. Like I think it's kind of a tough read like really fucking bored by it. Well, this is definitely like a weird thing.

1:09:19I remember getting a book recommendation. I remember talking about a book that I was reading. Do you even remember the smud scenes from fourth wing? Like I don't remember. I remember there was one where he like made a cloud of smoke and she couldn't see anything. Like like that's like his power. It is. And she's like blinded or something. I really don't know. I didn't I didn't love fourth wing. I don't love fantasy. but I can understand that this is really awkward for you. And embarrassing, like this thing that you're obsessed with, like now everyone's going to know, like part of the reason why you're obsessed.

1:09:49But just to say, like, I don't think this is a full smut book, especially not the first one, because like it takes a while to establish a relationship between Violet and Zayden. They're not having sex for a while. So like, I think that your parents can see why you like this book. And it's not like you're reading Fifty Shades of Grey, where it's like, oh, you're just reading pornography. Yes, that's true. Like there is a story, there is world building. There are a couple sex scenes, but like, I don't think it's so embarrassing. And if your mom reads a good amount, all books have sex now. All books.

1:10:16Yeah, so I'm not worried about your mom. Like, I also think your dad will stop reading it before it gets to a sort of inflection point. And if your mom, yeah, does read. You have to think about, like, TV shows. Did your mom watch Game of Thrones? Like, it's the same thing. It's a little different. I don't know why. But it's really not. But I remember like we watched Game of Thrones and like when you said you were going to watch, like it's not just nakedness and sex. As long as the book, like there are certain books that are literally made for porn. If this was about 50 Shades and they had no idea what they were reading, like yes, run for cover, join the Witness Protection Program.

1:10:49Or even some of like the smut literary books that like go viral. They have in one summer. They have no substance. Like that's embarrassing. You're just reading for sex. At least this book is like 600 pages and maybe like 30 of the pages are porn. It's like Sexy Harry Potter. yeah it's definitely awkward and I could see this having the potential like to be weird but now that I've broken it down I think you're okay I think you're okay it's so not as bad as it could be and you're allowed to like like this book and you could like it for other reasons other than smut there's a lot going on like I think you're protected and let's just hope your dad hates it yeah I have very little faith your dad makes it to the end yeah I don't know him but just a vibe Yeah.

1:11:28It's long. hey Jackson Claude my husband recently got a new secretary she always calls and texts him and cries to him every day about her marriage issues that she might be getting a divorce she barely shows up to work but my husband has not fired her last weekend we were away she called to ask work questions she was on speaker and at the end of the call she asks are you alone he said no quickly and hung up when I asked him about it he's like oh it was probably nothing but I don't think it was nothing am I crazy or something nefarious going on here I don't want to snoop but maybe I should it was not nothing yeah asking someone if they're alone um it's crazy like being in the car on the phone when like it connects um ben will pick up the phone and he'll he's the first thing he always says hey i'm in the car with claude why'd you say that i know but it's like he's like it's like his dad so no one has to ask if you're alone and like his dad even if they're not going to talk shit about you which of course is what you think they're going to do like he could be talking about a personal problem of course a medical issue if you ever called me and like we were talking, we talk about like a lot of deep personal stuff.

1:12:26And I didn't tell you Ben was in the room. It's wrong. Yeah, the gracious thing is to like announce, but to phrase it like that. And also this is a work relationship. It shouldn't matter. It shouldn't matter. If your real ass co-worker calls you about work and has to ask if you're alone, you're talking about things that are not work related. Now it's entirely possible the next thing she was going to say. Unless they work for like the Secret Service and it's all like confidential. Oh yeah, is your man an FBI agent? Yeah. It's entirely possible that what she was going to say after are you alone is like more marital stuff and she didn't want to unload in front of somebody but him then like lying and saying no there's something weird going on well he didn't lie but no he like quickly hung up and and she said well she said it was probably nothing really unprofessional and she should not be employed by your husband correct and so first you should just keep tabs on it like just in case they're having an affair like keep tabs um but then like you should push him towards finding like a like a secretary that's not a basket case sorry and don't come from like a place of threatened being like listen you're a very busy man a successful man you can't have this lunatic nutcase it's a bad look for the office she's the first person people meet the character from um inside out the blue woman who's phyllis from the office gloom she just gives that vibe and that's not how you want your company represented keep your problems at home that's your boss it's not even your co-worker like correct i'm sorry people have to act professional i agree like this is a fireable offense place of work correct and beyond like beyond that there might be something nefarious going on yeah but even if there's not yeah no your husband she's a problem she's a problem she's one to watch our third and final dear toasters hello jackson turd first i can't thank you ladies enough for being the most gargy pargy girlies and gave me so much joy on my weekdays.

1:14:13So here's my dilemma. I'm getting married in a few months and my fiance and his family love sports. My future mother-in-law - Do they keep up with sports? Yes, but not with Lamar. Or Caitlin? My future mother-in-law told me that she's having the mascot of my fiance's favorite MLB team come to my bridal shower and the mascot of our college is coming to our wedding. I really don't care about his favorite baseball team and I don't want a guy in a costume at our wedding. That's kind of cute. They went to the same college. Yeah, I like sports, but I want both days to be about us and not sports for a couple of days.

1:14:45Should I mention it to my fiance or do I just tell her that it's not what I want? Am I being selfish? Also, she's not paying for the wedding, so it's really not her place. I want to say there's two separate issues here. I agree, the bridal shower and the wedding. Your man's favorite MLB team coming to your bridal shower. That's ridiculous. That's insane. Bridal showers are pargy. They're classy affairs, tea sandwiches. You have to dip that in the bud. But actually, a wedding can get rowdy. And if you both went to the same college and the mascot comes. Oh my God, if the Raider came out. that's hysterical yeah like at the not at the ceremony but like at the after party i think that's entirely appropriate the bridal shower is really nuts yeah so this is good because you're not being complete if you like just accept our advice you're not being completely unreasonable if you put the kibosh on one and not the other and just be like that's cute we could do that but the bridal the mascot at my bridal shower is not happening he security will escort him out like do not hire that person yeah so i feel like in you coming to us like we can tell you like you are being a little dramatic about the wedding thing but you're 100 on the money like the bridal shower is really weird first of all because bridal showers are all girls so it's literally not about the husband at all it's about the bride no it's so weird the wedding is about the couple and the couple went to the same college and the couple like sports so like it's the mascot is emblematic of them why the mlb team like who gives a fuck yeah they're not the same no and it's your wedding and you're specifically your bridal shower so the mother of the groom like has a little bit of say in what goes on at the wedding, but she has literally no say, unless she's a toaster, a Gen X toaster.

1:16:12Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. She has no say in what goes on at the bridal shower. Like, that's really your day. No, and if she had, like, a bad idea for what goes on at the wedding, like, we would tell you to resist, but, like, this is actually a good idea and people will enjoy it. So you're just, like... It's cute. You're just hating sports and that's blinding you from seeing a good idea. Yeah, and maybe you're also just, like, hating the mother of the groom, which is understandable. Weddings can be stressful. Yeah, but I'm sorry, you need security detail for that mascot at your bridal shower. 1 ,000 % keep an eye out keep an eye out for Mr.

1:16:42Met there will be a brawl in the street that would be really crazy save your money why doesn't she gift you the money instead right I feel like it's expensive to have an MLB mascot for hire unless you're getting a generic Mr. Net it probably is that because it doesn't matter who's under the costume correct well that's our show you guys that's Dear Toasters again thank you to everyone who was really vulnerable with us this week and we'll see you next time thank you so much for listening to the Toast on Monday morning show we deliver the fast-paced stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube so you're watching us on YouTube please feel free to subscribe and give us a video thumbs up we're also available as podcasts anywhere podcasts can be found so that's Spotify iTunes, Stitcher, Public Radio I, Rated Castbox all the places you have you listen to podcasts find us at Toast on Monday if I start a review about a beautiful setting and wickedly talented we are love ya bye

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Tracy Morgan taken in wheelchair after vomiting courtside at Knicks vs. Heat game (Page Six) (27:03)

'White Lotus' star Patrick Schwarzenegger strips down with fiancee Abby Champion for Skims photoshoot (Page Six) (40:19)

'Chameleon' Hilaria Bladwin defends 'natural' accent changes after 'mean' backlash from the 'whole world' (Page Six) (42:50)

Forever 21 files for bankruptcy again, plans to close all US stores (Scripps) (57:25)

PepsiCo buys prebiotic soda brands Poppi for nearly $2 billion (CNBC) (1:01:14)

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