Fiddler on The Toast: Friday, May 1st, 2026

9:19Claudia Oshry:Like oh my god I was at an art gallery the other day because I was getting my car washed and it was one of the ones. Okay gallery girl. I know you it's like it's really hard to find a car wash by the way. I thought they were on every corner.

9:30Jackie Oshry:And then you just sort of have to busy yourself for like two hours.

9:32Claudia Oshry:Yeah the ones that you drive through I thought they're on every corner they're not I literally drove around looking for a car wash I finally found one but it was like a person in a hose so I got out um and I walked into an art gallery and I saw like a really beautiful piece of art that made me think of someone I was like should I just get them this piece of art who didn't make you think of me can't tell you I don't want to spoil it I'm still mulling it over oh I love that it's actually really beautiful I should go back and buy it I'm still okay all right she's a collector I'll send you a picture

10:01Jackie Oshry:what else can i tell you oh i'd like to see devil wears prada this weekend i believe it's out today uh yeah i believe it's out today if the lgb if the lgsa shabbat crew wants to go that's so i feel like it's gonna be a huge opening weekend it's gonna be like a barbenheimer type of

10:18Claudia Oshry:thing yeah i mean it's very exciting i wonder i wonder how big it will be if it'll be bigger than the opening of the first one wait oh i wonder how much that did but you know that's a good prediction to do on polymarket oh yeah let's get our predictions and check the market what are the what's what's the market what are the streets saying what's the polymarket okay hold on hold

10:38Jackie Oshry:on oh yeah devil wears prada opening weekend box office so 66 percent of people are saying it's going to do between 70 and 80 million dollars that's actually that's a lot i feel opening weekend well i'm gonna contribute i think it's more lgsa like you can count us in for like 100

10:52Claudia Oshry:I think it's, put me it down for$100 million.

10:56Jackie Oshry:Well, that would put you with 1 % of people.

10:59Claudia Oshry:That's classic me. That's so you. Oh, my God. It's so me, but you thought I was going to be with the herd? I don't think so.

11:06Jackie Oshry:That's a good prediction to do on Polymarket.

11:08Claudia Oshry:Yeah, that is. Okay, put it in.

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11:13Claudia Oshry:Use code TOAST at Polymarket. That's such a slay.

11:16Jackie Oshry:Absolutely.

11:18Claudia Oshry:What else can I tell you? That you're wearing my sweatshirt. You could tell me that you're wearing my sweatshirt.

11:22Jackie Oshry:It's not your sweatshirt anymore because I wore this sweatshirt when I found out that Ruby was pregnant. Congrats. I'm cracking up. When I found out that I was pregnant with Rubel. And so it's just mine now. Every time I wear this sweatshirt, I feel so connected and so maternal. It's genuinely not how it works.

11:40Claudia Oshry:And unfortunately. And there's a huge stain now. And you know that I'm such a giver. You know that I'm a giver. Between my olive oil and I just like. Your art. My art. I would give someone the shirt off my back. like I really would. You unfortunately have chosen something that like I actually want back. You know, I've been talking like an influencer recently. Like using a lot of hand gestures. We've always gesticulated here, but more in like an Italian mama sort of way. And now I'm in the like influencer, like Pac-Man hands. Maybe you'll understand this. You're not getting it back. I'm in the Pac-Man hands phase.

12:16Jackie Oshry:I know that you like it, but you don't have an emotional connection to the sweatshirt like I do. So I am just going to say no.

12:22Claudia Oshry:You don't know that. What's your emotional connection? All right, make a case. Maybe I'll get it back to me. You don't love Bad Teacher, but you know the scene in Bad Teacher when that weird kid in the class always wears that sweatshirt that says gymnastics. No, I don't know the movie.

12:37Jackie Oshry:I might have seen it once, but it's certainly not like a quotable.

12:40Claudia Oshry:He tells the teacher, he was like, it was my dad's and it's the only thing he left when he left us. And she's like, there's a reason why he left it.

12:50Jackie Oshry:cracking so you think are you gonna say this is a family heirloom no but it is mine and i just i feel bad because i would love to just get over it well get over it no i'm gonna like work why do you work on that this weekend well i'm seeing the devil wears prada i'm just gonna snatch it watch out in the hamptons i'm not bringing it i'm not bringing it how about that you're gonna drive three hours back to the city to go get it yeah and what if we just purchase another one you could have the new one okay who makes it it's um no clue selkie i feel like king solomon it's like you don't even know who makes it you obviously don't love it what like king solomon like as a

13:30Claudia Oshry:judge like you know the story of the baby split the baby in half but yeah that's how i feel like

13:38Jackie Oshry:this judgment's coming down like oh we should split the sweatshirt in half so neither of us

13:43Claudia Oshry:can have it but if one of us were to say no don't because that would ruin the sweatshirt

13:48Jackie Oshry:that person loves it then i wouldn't let us yeah because this sweatshirt means a lot to me okay same because it's mine no it doesn't yes it does it's what does it mean to you emotionally like explain it's a beautiful sweatshirt it's a beautiful sweatshirt i wore it all

14:06Claudia Oshry:deep personal emotional connection year of life i have so many memories in that sweatshirt such a You think the hair. Such a fucking liar. No, it's true. I'll find you pictures. I don't have to prove why I want my sweatshirt back.

14:20Jackie Oshry:It's not yours.

14:21Claudia Oshry:And possession is nine-tenths of the law. I'm taking it back. But enjoy it while you have it. I'm taking the Selkie, dumbass. Yeah, maybe Selkie will see this and send us another one.

14:31Jackie Oshry:Oh, girl, you better. And we'll take two new ones, please. This one has a stain. Actually, it could happen. You know, by the way, there's a huge stain on the wrist. I don't even know what it is. Oh, just wanted to quickly update our whiteboard because yesterday was our fourth show without talking about Lex vs. Lex in a formal capacity. Obviously, we talked briefly about our Instagram stories. But that's not formal. That does not constitute a capacity that is formal.

14:56Claudia Oshry:You guys know when it's the lead story, we can't stop talking about it. Four days. I'm proud of us.

15:00Jackie Oshry:Yeah. When we're talking about it in the pre-Fast 5 banner, we have to just hold ourselves back so we can do it as a first story.

15:05Claudia Oshry:We have been so controlled. Everything that we talk about, we just find a way to make it about that. we have been controlled there's not a formal story about it today a couple like little things happen you know lauren leindyke is like popping off a little bit um i want to say something

15:19Jackie Oshry:quickly um okay the thing that i wanted to say about that uh was just like a brief detail from yesterday's story that i do feel like it sure makes it is germane is the west wilson drama is his step-grandmother. So it is his grandfather's girlfriend. Obviously, that doesn't make the story any less tragic, of course. But he didn't lose his grandmother. Where is his grandmother? I would assume deceased, and this is the woman that his grandfather moved on with. Yeah. So it must be his grandpa's wife.

15:58Claudia Oshry:Because otherwise they wouldn't be calling it his grandmother. They'd say his grandpa's girlfriend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting. Also, people were speculating that maybe the family didn't tell West until after the reunion.

16:09Jackie Oshry:Right, which I had also thought maybe was the case.

16:14Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Yeah. That would be good, but still, like, the reunion's kind of null and void. And I guess what's right with the relationship?

16:22Jackie Oshry:I can't keep sending hate West's way. Like, he's going through, like, a deep family tragedy and trauma. I won't pile on.

16:29Claudia Oshry:It's also a lot to process that your cousin is a murderer.

16:33Jackie Oshry:Obviously, that's more so than even if it was your grandma. Like, that's even a bigger pill to swallow than your grandma dying. Yeah. Getting killed.

16:39Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Yeah. So we're just going to.

16:43Jackie Oshry:And now, like, your cousin's going to jail. Like, that's crazy. Are they close? I don't know.

16:47Claudia Oshry:Well, maybe they're not, you know. Hopefully they're not. Hopefully. Yeah. Hopefully they're not. Probably not. In his mugshot, he looked like a crazy lunatic.

16:57Jackie Oshry:I mean, he did shoot his step-grandmother. Yeah.

17:00Claudia Oshry:I mean, he is a crazy lunatic, obviously. But he also looked like one.

17:04Jackie Oshry:Absolutely.

17:05Claudia Oshry:You know?

17:06Jackie Oshry:Absolutely.

17:07Claudia Oshry:Not a Ted Bundy type. Oh, no, no, no. No.

17:11Jackie Oshry:I just feel like the days of the Ted Bundy types are over because like really, really. Luigi. Serial killer.

17:19Claudia Oshry:Oh, you think.

17:20Jackie Oshry:Like using their looks to like trap women. Because men who look like that, they just become like TikTokers now.

17:25Claudia Oshry:Oh, yeah.

17:26Jackie Oshry:If you have an ounce of good looks, like you as a man, there's a million beautiful girls on TikTok and Instagram. and they have three followers. But if you're like a man with decently good looks and you don't care what other people think, like you just make TikToks that are cringe and you make a lot of money. Like you don't need to murder people anymore. Ted Bundy would have been a TikToker, mark my words.

17:42Claudia Oshry:But what if he has, like, what if he's a psychopathic killer?

17:49Jackie Oshry:I just feel like he wouldn't have gotten to that place with like all the positive accolades and like the comments and the engagement and stuff.

17:53Claudia Oshry:But I feel like like his version of positive accolades back in the day, like he was getting, you know, everybody like.

17:58Jackie Oshry:Right, so just you don't feel my call? Is that what you're saying?

18:01Claudia Oshry:I just don't know if TikTok's gonna end the murder epidemic that feels right I don't know and just when I thought you were having my back today because you said crack meth I was I was trying I was trying but also that earned me not who you are

18:21Jackie Oshry:it earned me a jitterspoon it did well I was more so focused on you like a joe bull no it's a no jerk oh you know what's so funny something just popped up on my tiktok it's so crazy when i'm scrolling tiktok and i see a video that's about us like it happens quite a bit like other people loving the toast like giving you know their takes on the toast and someone was just like claudia and jackie ashray are like the biggest jews they're the proudest jews they're always talking about jews but they are so hard on their fellow jews and the examples that she cited were jesse solomon yeah andy cohen yeah ben platt and ben platt yeah now obviously ben platt is self-explanatory like no I don't support Jews who literally hates Jews like he's out like that's not even a question now Jesse Solomon like yes he's Jewish but there could we hold space for multiple truths like he was wrong for what he did to Lexi and he's a nice Jewish boy like do you know what

19:11Claudia Oshry:I mean yeah no but I also think like it's important for us to like be hard critical and like critical of the Jews that I don't feel like are portraying Jewish people in a good light like we need to course correct and let like the world know like that's not what we're about although I do think

19:26Jackie Oshry:Andy Cohen represents the Jewish people in like a pretty decent way.

19:28Claudia Oshry:No I think he like exploits Jewish culture and then doesn't have the Jewish people's back.

19:32Jackie Oshry:Well that's like a big shtick is like you know using that's how I feel about Ben Platt. Like so many of his most engaged Instagram posts are like here's a little song I wrote about Rosh Hashanah. And then when it becomes time for like you to actually stand up for Jews you're just nowhere to be found. So you can't use the shtick and not like you can't benefit from the shtick of the community while also not supporting the community.

19:52Claudia Oshry:So I feel like that's Andy Cohen.

19:54Jackie Oshry:Yeah but I guess the bar after October 7th lowered so much. Like I found Andy's behavior to be quite fine.

19:59Claudia Oshry:The bar lowered so much for everyone else, but like not for fellow Jews. Like, yeah. So if you want to be like mazel, you've got to step your pussy up a little bit. I agree. And then Jesse Solomon, like. His Jewishness does not, except for the one Shabbat he hosted at Summer House. Like I don't. I forget. No, I don't like, I don't judge him well or poorly because he's Jewish. Like I actually.

20:25Jackie Oshry:Yeah, it's the same thing when people say, like, women who support other women. Are you an asshole? Like, I don't really care your race, religion, creed. Like, just are you an asshole? Are you a woman asshole? Are you a Jew asshole? Like, there are both.

20:36Claudia Oshry:Yeah. No, but I do feel like, and also other people can't be like, you're a bad Jew. Like, excuse me. Right, right. But I feel like we have to be the ones to do it. Yeah, so I think that's fair. I think that's a fair assessment of us. Yeah. I wear it proudly. Absolutely. The Jew police.

20:56Jackie Oshry:Yeah, right. We wear yellow stars. We're policing the Jews. Yeah, right.

21:03Claudia Oshry:That's always weird to like see a clip about yourself out of nowhere. That happened to me a couple times. When you're just mindlessly scrolling. That happened to me with Michaela Matthews. Oh, that's terrible. Yeah, from Salamo. It actually happened to me the other day. I saw these random girls talking about us. I never saw them before. Never saw them again. And they were just like opining about their thoughts. Not really. Not really. But like it was just weird to see someone talking about me.

21:32Jackie Oshry:It's very jarring when you're on your mindless scroll, which is like a dopamine hit. You're really not like intentionally. You're just mindless. And for them to like hear your name, it sips you right out of it. And it's very jarring.

21:46Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

21:46Jackie Oshry:Like someone. I realize this is not like a universal relatable issue. No.

21:50Claudia Oshry:but it's something that I've experienced recently though you know like I guess we're just getting

21:56Jackie Oshry:bigger than ever I try it's true I try to scroll right past it because I don't really want to see more content like that I think the toast is like it's art you know it's people are gonna love it people are gonna criticize it and that's what makes it beautiful so it doesn't bother me like I like that there's discourse around it but I try not to engage with it because I'm not only gonna get the positive and I just want people to be able to like kind of like with a book you know how authors aren't supposed to read their own reviews or engage with reviewers. That's really how I feel at this point as like an artist.

22:23Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Yeah. No, I completely agree. I completely agree. Anything else we want to PFFB about? No, I don't think so. I'm like having a total like gap in memory about what I did yesterday.

22:40Jackie Oshry:Oh, I hosted a community event yesterday. Oh, you did? You did? slash you know fireside chat at one of my local community centers for young Jewish women it was fabulous I love being a Jewish woman you know yeah like it was so shtetl

22:55Claudia Oshry:yeah and part of that is calling out your fellow Jews like classic you know

22:59Jackie Oshry:absolutely Tevye would

23:01Claudia Oshry:Tevye would Tevye did

23:02Jackie Oshry:who do you feel like you are in Fiddler on the Roof

23:11Claudia Oshry:maybe the mother maybe the mother now you know i relate to mothers now and who do you think i am tevye i think so too you're you're laser wolf i actually am not and i resent the accusation

23:28Jackie Oshry:we're anyone but the daughters yeah the daughters like they don't fit into our like there's not it's not like you're a kim you're a chloe you're a tzatzel like it just doesn't work no i feel like

23:40Claudia Oshry:the mother you know wearing about her children cooking doing the wash i kind of like if i had to would relate to the oldest one yeah we're married for love yeah it's a soul yeah they're all say so they are all say so fatal and lightal they're at say so hava right no i think there's a Chava.

24:03Jackie Oshry:What are the daughter's names? Sadal. Hodel. Chava. Sprincy. Selkie. Oh, like my sweatshirt. There's five. I thought that was four too. Yeah. You know who you are?

24:18Claudia Oshry:You're from a Sarah, the mother-in-law haunting you. Oh, okay. Yeah. So good. Remember when we were casting Fiddler on the Roof live?

24:28Jackie Oshry:Because I had just rewatched it. Like I've seen it literally once as a kid and then never again. And I know the music and I referenced like Tevye, but I actually didn't really know what the story was about. So like two years ago, I think I was pregnant and I rewatched it. It was actually a chilling story at your house, a chilling story to watch while pregnant. Like, yeah, it's not, it's all fun and games to like the Kozaks come.

24:48Claudia Oshry:No, it's actually like, it's such a fun movie, but it's a crazy movie. It's very dark. And it's like the expulsion of million Jews from Eastern Europe and Russia. Like that's our story. you know our people very sad oh yeah we were casting who did we cast tevye like liam liev schreiber adam sandler i think when i tell you there is no show funnier than this one like

25:16Jackie Oshry:and i'm constantly reminded of that like when you sent me the mr mcorky clip us casting adam sandler as a modern day tevye like when i say we're operating at such a high level like nobody can meet us where we're at it's insane how good the show is and i'm pretty sure

25:29Claudia Oshry:Remember we had Lea Michele in every role as the Georders. That feels right. Kind of like Madea. Wait, Claudia, I think I have the list on my phone.

25:38Jackie Oshry:Kind of like how Tyler Perry plays all the characters in the Madea films. Yes. Lea Michele plays all the characters in the modern adaptation produced by Toast Productions of Fiddler on the Roof. Malia. So you're saying it's Malia.

25:53Jackie Oshry:Okay, content idea. For today's episode, we need to make like a fake Madea cover. but everyone is Lea Michele. They're all wearing like old Jewish shetel, like schmatas.

26:02Claudia Oshry:Claudia, I have the list. Okay. Who did we cast? To do the music for the Fiddler on the Roof remake that we are producing. Pasek and Paul? Pasek and Paul. We also have David Foster. I think we agreed that even though he's not Jewish, that we need - He has the vibe. We need his talents on the movie. Absolutely. For Tevye. Ooh, this is so good. We have four options. Sacha Baron Cohen. So good, but he's not fat enough. Liev Schreiber. He's not fat, but he's big. Adam Sandler. That's pretty good. Jack Black. Oh, sorry.

26:36Jackie Oshry:Jack Black is the winner, obviously.

26:38Claudia Oshry:For the daughters, we have Adam Sandler's daughters. Oh, Sonny. Wait, this is a really good casting. I know. And Lea Michele. Perfect. For the men, we have one. Josh Peck. For just which man? Like the husband, the tailor. Yeah, yeah. Who's Laser Wolf? Laser Wolf, Josh Gad. Oh, wait, this is so good. Josh Gad could also be Tevye.

27:06Jackie Oshry:Yeah.

27:06Claudia Oshry:No, he's a little young. Yeah. The matchmaker, Alex Bornstein. Stop, this is so good. For Goldie, that's the wife. We obviously. Like the mother of Adam Sandler? Yeah, the wife of Adam Sandler. Idina Menzel.

27:23Jackie Oshry:Oh, that's really good. But you know who we have to cast in this movie is Tova Feldscher. She's. Oh, my God. She's Goldie. She's the grandmother from Nobody Wants Us. The mother-in-law, excuse me, from Nobody Wants Us. Wait.

27:34Claudia Oshry:And then for our Cossack, we have Glenn Powell. Chilling. Also, at the bottom, unnamed, we just have Selma Blair and Jeff Garland. To what end?

27:49Jackie Oshry:We want them involved in some capacity. I think so. Okay.

27:55Claudia Oshry:Free idea, Hollywood. They're always looking for new ideas.

28:04Claudia Oshry:Oh,

28:08Claudia Oshry:Pasek and Paul on the remix would be insane. That soundtrack.

28:12Jackie Oshry:That soundtrack is so amazing.

28:18Claudia Oshry:Like it actually feels like old Jewish music, like klezmer music that's been around. They feel like prayers. It's really crazy. It's kind of how like the Schindler's List score like has become the score of the Holocaust. You know what I mean?

28:34Jackie Oshry:Yeah. I didn't realize we were like going to talk about Schindler's List today. Like that's just, I need to be in a very particular type of.

28:39Claudia Oshry:No, we're just talking about the Schindler's List score. Just the score.

28:43Jackie Oshry:Like personally, I can't talk about Schindler's List. until I'm just absolutely prepped for it.

28:49Claudia Oshry:So I, yeah, but just think about the score, like.

28:58Claudia Oshry:Yeah, I feel, yeah. Yeah, you got the point? Yeah, I got it. That just feels like the whole Holocaust now. And I think that's the power of scoring. Yeah.

29:13Jackie Oshry:I think Hans Zimmer would agree.

29:15Claudia Oshry:I think Pasek and Paul. Who did Schindler's List? Not to bring it back.

29:21Jackie Oshry:All right. Like, can we just move on?

29:23Claudia Oshry:Let me just say who did Schindler's List? We have to give credit. You know? I want to say it was probably Mr. Zimmer. I feel like, too. Schindler's List score. John Williams. Okay, say Mr. Williams. What else did he score?

29:38Jackie Oshry:We are, like, PFF being way close to the sun today. I know. I do think we could dive in if you wanted to.

29:43Claudia Oshry:I do. But he also did Star Wars, Jaws, Jurassic Park, Indiana Jones, and the first three Harry Potter films. The Harry Potter score is pretty iconic, too.

29:56Jackie Oshry:Yeah, the little jingle when they're at Hogwarts. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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34:30Claudia Oshry:like dear media toast for 35 % off thank you 35 % turd you're welcome 35 % shirt our first story stories in no particular order today couldn't find a lead story but just winging it I guess the lead story is the friends we made along the way I guess that it is.

34:52Jackie Oshry:Very good. No jerk.

34:55Claudia Oshry:No friends. Very good. Just riffing. Oh, okay. Don't worry. Like, what are you saying about me? Don't worry. I'm not coming for your friends again. Good. Along the way of friends. Our first story. Netflix source says they've sealed the deal on a return for the crown, but it's not what you will expect. so Netflix is apparently producing a spinoff of the crown set to take place starting at the death of Queen Victoria so that would be 19 when did she pass 1911 1901 I forget so that is Lilibet's

35:35Jackie Oshry:I have to like think of everything in the royal family is how they're related to Elizabeth

35:38Claudia Oshry:bit that's her 1901 she died that's her like yeah great great grand um but yeah i guess the years after she died were kind of crazy i think her oldest son passed i believe he was engaged and so like the girl who was gonna be queen i think she like kind of felt shit out of luck but then she managed to woo the brother and got i wouldn't spoil it honestly because i don't know this era

36:06Jackie Oshry:of history and I know it happened so you can't really spoil it yeah but it's kind of like what Olivia spoiled that movie for me about Jimmy Hoffa yeah she was like and then he died I'm like wait what she's so annoying for that um it's nice to go into it blind you're gonna forget everything

36:19Claudia Oshry:that I've just said though but I'm pretty sure that um that became like King George and Queen Mary and I think that's Elizabeth's no this is oh no 1901 so yeah that's Elizabeth's grandparents Yeah, it's not that far off. And then did King George have the two sons and the one abdicated and then King George? We'll find out. Didn't they say they were doing another crown? Oh, the Kennedys. They're doing Crown Kennedys? Right? Netflix is producing a crown-like show about the Bobby Ethel days. Yeah, I've always said that Netflix should do a prequel of The Crown and pick up that show Victoria that never got more seasons and just make that the Netflix prequel.

37:02Claudia Oshry:And so like, this is kind of that because we already got two seasons of the crown, not of the crown, of Victoria. The rest of her life, I think she kind of went crazy and it's like not as interesting. Schmarred off all her children. You know, she had eight of her children sitting on various thrones throughout Europe. At one point, like all of the monarchs in Europe were like her grandchildren. And so I think just cutting to 1901, like that's literally what I asked for. Thank you so much.

37:26Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I think the crown left a gaping hole in people's interests. And I think the time was kind of perfect because she did pass as like the last season was airing. And it was, I think, all in all, like a real love story to Queen Elizabeth. Obviously, it showed her hard times making bad choices with Diana and even her sister. Like, just let the sister marry. She was going to marry him anyway. So overall, I do think it was like a real, like a beautiful body of work and an ode to a life well lived and like the sovereign, you know, and everything she did. so now I think that they can and should explore other parts of the family because it really did pique this interest in people people were even like me like I never really was into the royal family or anything obsessed with the crown like it was just an amazing show and the fact that it was based on real life was even like better but it was just a good show even if it wasn't based on true events you know yeah but the fact but yes making it a lot of people don't like history but they just like like good shows and this was both so I hope that they do it with different parts of the royal family and also the kennedys like that i'm sad for yeah me as well now i'm in

38:30Claudia Oshry:the family tree this is actually my favorite period of history really like victoria the victorian era and then the eduardian era which is also when downton takes place oh yeah and i kind of know

38:40Jackie Oshry:a lot about history like just through downton and how it relates to like you know the titanic in 1912

38:44Claudia Oshry:like downton abbey taught me everything i know yeah that like took us from like 1912 to 1930 and then crown picks up post-world war ii so like we're pretty much all caught up we're pretty set yeah thanks netflix so i'm very excited about this yeah no this sounds good and the people

39:06Jackie Oshry:who do the crown are just like good at their job they do it so classy and i just want to say like

39:09Claudia Oshry:they could recast some people from the crown because if they're related it's like okay if

39:13Jackie Oshry:they look alike you know yeah yeah absolutely just they pull they pull from the same group of people Like people who filmed Downton Abbey, people who win Game of Thrones. It's like that very British professional actor, like West End vibe. I know who you might find.

39:28Claudia Oshry:Did you just see Ted Lasso's coming back? Yeah, and he's coming back to Virginia.

39:32Jackie Oshry:That was confusing.

39:34Claudia Oshry:Why? They made this whole big thing about ending it. Yeah, I never watched the last episode. And it did feel premature. But now he's coaching women's soccer in the US. Right, which is like cute, actually. And funny. So it's kind of like a spinoff.

39:46Jackie Oshry:I will miss what was his name? Roy. The player Danny. There was a lot of players. Wait no football is live.

39:56Claudia Oshry:Oh Danny yeah.

39:58Jackie Oshry:Wait speaking of Roy I saw the craziest trailer for a movie he's in. Okay. He's in a rom-com. You're gonna die. Playing opposite so he's like new at this company and there's like a big boss. She's like a Miranda Priestley vibe like big woman in charge. I think it's a woman soccer team actually.

40:19Jackie Oshry:and who's the boss? Like, you're going to die when I tell you. It's so fucking random. I don't know. Brad Goldstein, who's like the best character from Ted Lasso, is playing a rom-com opposite Jennifer Lopez.

40:32Claudia Oshry:That's so good.

40:33Jackie Oshry:The trailer actually looked like an SNL skit. Like, it was not fucking real. And it's like a Netflix. It's one of those really corny, like, Netflix rom-coms. I don't know if it's on Netflix, but it's like a streamer.

40:44Claudia Oshry:I could not believe what I was watching. Like it actually looked fake. That's so funny. That's like what's going to save the movie making industry. Cause Steven Spielberg was saying like, they have to start coming up with like original ideas for movies or else like, you know, you can't just do remakes forever. And I think that's what he was talking about. Like that sort of, that sort of ingenuity.

41:02Jackie Oshry:I don't know why, like the thought of them kissing freaks me out. Yeah.

41:08Claudia Oshry:I think you should watch it and report back.

41:11Jackie Oshry:Absolutely. Yeah.

41:12Claudia Oshry:In another, what's it even called? In my previous life,

41:15Jackie Oshry:like that was made for me you know yeah like a terrible corny bad acting romance movie and one thing about jayla like she does not let that like she is so dynamic especially in her acting career because every movie she's made in the last two decades aside from the um stripper one which one was that called the hustlers is like corny and fake and like literally a joke like yeah but she got her start in acting as selena like she and then uh made of manhattan she was like one of the most high profile after actresses wedding planner for like 10 years and now every movie she makes is like actually fake yeah like i feel like there's a trailer but there's no movie yeah and

41:58Claudia Oshry:no one notices because no one set out to see the movie i cannot tell you besides for hustlers

42:04Jackie Oshry:a movie she has made or been in in the last 10 years that's good. Must I pull up her? Please don't. It's sad. Like she did that movie Atlas. She did that movie like Marry Me with Owen Wilson. Remember Justin Sylvester was in it? You did? I did.

42:22Claudia Oshry:Was it good? It was a movie. Like it passed muster.

42:26Jackie Oshry:So it wasn't just a trailer.

42:27Claudia Oshry:No, and it passed muster. And Owen Wilson, like I saw it. So random. It was a movie that I saw.

42:32Jackie Oshry:And I feel the way about her that I kind of feel about Ariana Grande. It's really hard for like these big pop divas to be believable as actresses. At least in that movie, she was playing a big pop diva. Oh, good. Okay. That's why Glinda was good for Ariana because it was this like big, larger than life personality. But like in the Fockers, I'm scared. Yeah. Because Harry Styles too, even though he did like a pretty decent job in his like brief acting career. I think the pop divas to stop. Like, it's, you, I'm sorry, you actually really can't be both unless you're Lady Gaga. But that's because her diva personality is literally a costume.

43:07Jackie Oshry:Yeah. And she acts as Stephanie. Like, she is, when you see her without makeup, she can probably go to the grocery store.

43:12Claudia Oshry:But I don't even think she's, like, a great example of someone, like, I feel like she did two movies. I think she's probably, at this point in time, like, doing it the best. But, not shallow. Stars Born was great because she really played, like, someone who she could play. An early version of herself. House of Gucci? I didn't see it, so I really can't say, honestly. It wasn't great.

43:35Jackie Oshry:But I think her acting career up until this point has been a huge success. She's in Oscar-nominated films. I used her as an example. I think she's doing it the best. I don't think she's doing it perfectly. And that's because she really does have a different personality on stage. Ari is Ari.

43:51Claudia Oshry:And also, she's not afraid to be ugly.

43:53Jackie Oshry:I mean, the whole point of that Star is Born movie was that she had a big nose.

43:57Claudia Oshry:Yeah. But and like how she's playing like some like old woman maiden. Yeah. She's never been afraid to be ugly. And you have to be that way if you're an actor.

44:06Jackie Oshry:And let me tell you who's afraid to be ugly. Jennifer Lopez.

44:09Claudia Oshry:Jennifer Lopez. Ariana Grande. Ariana Grande. Kim Kardashian. And they're afraid to be fat. Yeah. Yeah. If you're not willing to gain and lose weight for roles. You should have to like gain 20 pounds in order to get your SAG-AFTRA card. Just to prove that you're dedicated. Absolutely. are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. Pete Davidson and Elsie Hewitt are working through relationship issues. Sources have said that they have split, but People Magazine is saying that they are just having relationship issues and working through those, which sounds like, you know, broken up. Why would we know if they're in a fight?

44:45Claudia Oshry:Five months after they welcomed their baby girl, Scotty Rose. So the source says there are issues, but they're trying to figure things out together. They're adjusting to parenthood and working through the process.

44:54Jackie Oshry:Like maybe the issue is that she's postpartum and he should just leave her alone. like yeah I don't know how you can make a big decision five months postpartum like that's

45:00Claudia Oshry:just impossible no you can't and like barring like really terrible terrible things like cheating just put it on whatever the issues are just put them aside for a second focus on the baby and deal with it like when you feel like yourself again yeah I want to say something that I feel like is controversial but it shouldn't be but like barring any sort of extreme circumstances

45:19Jackie Oshry:like abuse or cheating like breaking up with your partner when you just had a baby like should be

45:23Claudia Oshry:illegal you shouldn't do it to the baby or to yourself yeah like for everyone yeah barring

45:30Jackie Oshry:and that's boring anything yes but yeah like i feel like this is a trend i'm hearing it like happen a lot with celebrities who literally have a baby and five minutes later really yeah i don't i can't remember like why i think that but i feel like we've reported on a couple of stories like

45:44Claudia Oshry:this and it's actually so sad it's so sad like it's sad for the the couple that then they either don't have their child all the time.

45:54Jackie Oshry:What are recent examples in Hollywood of celebrity couples who have split immediately after having a baby?

45:59Claudia Oshry:You either aren't with your baby all the time, which is so sad, or the times when you are with your baby, you're like single parenting it, which is so hard.

46:07Jackie Oshry:There actually are a handful of recent pretty high profile examples. Oh, Cardi B and Offset.

46:12Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

46:12Jackie Oshry:Filed for divorce in mid 2024, announced pregnancy with her third child immediately after her baby was born September. remember um cardi b also and stefan diggs she's two two of these examples uh molly may and tommy fury split it they technically split within one year after a baby but they did get back together

46:28Claudia Oshry:yeah and that was they tried you know ellie golding and casper jopling i don't know who that

46:35Jackie Oshry:is pete davidson and elsa hewitt wow chat updates quickly i don't know who these people are millie mcintosh and hugo taylor i don't know yeah i hate this like i seriously hate this yeah like make it

46:49Claudia Oshry:work put it aside compartmentalize and just try and get through this difficult time and then like and then focus on the issues but it's not gonna be easy it's not gonna be easy no of course not

47:02Jackie Oshry:but i think that also like when you're so famous a lot of the issues actually no i'm not gonna say that i take that back okay i don't agree with what i was gonna to say rescinded stricken from the record like having money when you have a baby like makes things a hundred times easier so it's like what do you have to fight about but there's still things to fight about so i take that back yeah stricken from the record yeah stricken from the record know thyself like be self-aware yeah so yeah i i hope they get back together or figure it out i also just want to say i don't meet any people named elsie and i really like the name it's pretty It is.

47:38Claudia Oshry:That was like my in utero name for Harry, Elsie.

47:42Jackie Oshry:Little camper.

47:42Claudia Oshry:Yeah. And then I was like, honestly, if this were a girl, that would be a really cute name. Elsie. Yeah.

47:47Jackie Oshry:Put it in your back pocket.

47:48Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Our next story, Brooksy is getting down, down under. Brooks Nader and Taryn Egerton take a dip during a romantic Australian beach date. So the two of them were packing on the PDA in the ocean, sharing an embrace and holding hands on their way out of the ocean where they both dunked and they still proceeded to kiss so

48:09Jackie Oshry:it's love yeah um obviously not to make everything about me but one of my favorite fun facts is that i am on brooks nader's story so like i did know a few days ago that they were headed to australia

48:18Claudia Oshry:because she put it on our close friend story then why are these pictures only coming out now and now she's also back in new york that's weird yeah like she's just time traveling i'm having the same sort

48:29Jackie Oshry:of experience with this that I had with Kylie and Timothy because I famously like never thought Timothee Chalamet was even remotely good looking and I still don't think he's like that hot but I sort of get it I get why people are obsessed with him I understand how one person could think he's hot now before Brixie I never really thought of Taron Egerton as like a deeply handsome individual I never really thought of him period and now seeing this picture yeah no and I'm like oh he's a good actor but i never thought like he is in my favorite movie but i never thought like oh that's somebody i'd like to lay with he's not on our eligibles list right but then seeing this picture of like him sort of guiding brooksy out of the ocean he's ripped i said oh that is i guess yeah

49:12Claudia Oshry:a handsome guy yeah he also like looks older than her yeah in like in a nice way but he's only 36 and she's 29 he's treating her well yeah i hope so i feel like he is he seems like a good guy but I think she likes like toxic men so oh I know so I don't know but really cute and they're like really they're all in I love this I guess like is he from Australia or they just took a trip I think they just took a trip I don't think that's really far to go for just like a vacation maybe he's promoting a movie you know there's a lot of work down there she's so busy like who has time to go to Australia yeah it's a lot if not for work that's a lot like I feel like a 24 hour flight how long is it far is it like well they probably went from LA so I feel like like 19 but still she like works a lot so 19 hours of not working it must be true love

50:05Jackie Oshry:I don't think this is the end all be all for her but I think this is like a nice like you know

50:10Claudia Oshry:a nice notch in her belt I wish she was a singer or something so she was like writing songs about these relationships because she has a lot of good ones and it's like she has her show like

50:20Jackie Oshry:an art form of, yeah, her show. And they did, so I guess like the previous footage we had seen is being completely scrapped because on her Instagram and all the girls, they're like filming again. And it seems like they've just started filming. Yeah. So I think we're, we're going to be getting Taryn. I don't know if he's going to be on the show, but obviously they'll talk about the relationship. I need them to turn it around quickly. Like I seriously don't have time to wait because by the time they, at the pace that they're moving, she'll have another boyfriend by the time this is airing. And it's like, it's irrelevant.

50:45Jackie Oshry:Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I'm sat for it now.

50:48Claudia Oshry:Yeah. are you ready for our next story what number four yeah the swifties are in a tizzy because taylor swift's website briefly displayed displayed a toy story style countdown so a mysterious countdown briefly appeared on taylor swift's official website on april 30th and it was enough to send fans into full detective mode so the clock which was roughly set 10 which was up for 10 minutes before being taken down counted down to 1 p.m central time 2 p.m eastern time on may 2nd That's tomorrow. Even more intriguing is the background featured unmistakable Toy Story inspired blue and white clouded imagery, prompting immediate speculation about a potential crossover or soundtrack announcement because we know Toy Story 5 is coming out.

51:31Jackie Oshry:I can't imagine she would ever release something on a Saturday that quite literally makes no sense. Like music comes out on a Friday and announcements on the weekends just get buried. Like so I don't understand this. I wish she like if it is like a song for Toy Story like she can't really Abuse the countdown thing I just want to say and I feel Like she does sometimes it's like a countdown to another Vinyl or a new piece of merch and it's Like the countdown should be reserved for serious things

51:55Claudia Oshry:Yeah well I just like don't really care About the countdowns anymore now this is interesting Because of the Toy Story element but If she just put a countdown on her website and took it off Like I'm sorry we can't we can't go through This again I can't do this again yeah No it clearly is something whether she's

52:09Jackie Oshry:You know voicing a character or probably writing an original song, like very Trolls, Justin Timberlake. That's how you get those big hits. Like, love that.

52:16Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Love, love, love. That would be really cute. Also, the timing is notable because Toy Story 5 is set to hit theaters on June 19th, 2026, the same date that marks the 20th anniversary of her debut single, Tim McGraw.

52:30Jackie Oshry:I don't think, I think that's just a coincidence. I think she has so many singles that like there's literally an anniversary. What the hell would Tim McGraw have to do with an original song?

52:37Claudia Oshry:When you hear Woody and Buzz

52:39Jackie Oshry:Oh, you think she's rewriting it?

52:41Claudia Oshry:I hope that makes you think of us. To be Buzz Lightyear. Honestly, my household, that would go platinum. It would go platinum. Yeah. I kind of love what I just wrote. Yeah, chilling.

52:54Jackie Oshry:It's giving... What was that Selena Gomez song I wrote? I Am? No. Single? Yes, I Am Single. I Am Me? to dance with your heart remember yeah i like being alone too much to dance with your heart what was the name of her song the one she ended up releasing we knew she was releasing a song she gave us a title so then we tried to i'll be single soon i'll be single soon i'm full of useless information like it's insane seriously the worst song ever

53:30Claudia Oshry:absolutely agree hard 10 out of 10 agree so i hope this is something i love this journey obviously

53:38Jackie Oshry:i'm very toxic and i want taylor to have babies really really soon just selfishly like so she can be in the same place that i am and i can relate to her even more you know more deeply than i do and so i love you getting into the children's space taylor love that yeah if it's a pregnancy

53:54Claudia Oshry:the announcement no kidding I'm so toxic that would be really funny no I hope it's a song for the soundtrack like what it should be a hundred percent I mean and that song for Justin Timber

54:05Jackie Oshry:like might be his biggest song ever what's the song sunshine in my pocket that's from trolls Kelly Clarkson also wrote a song for trolls it's broken but it's beautiful oh my god Kathy Hilton on the reunion saying that she tried a diet that Oprah Winfrey, Michelle Obama, and Kelly Clarkson tried. She's so funny. And it turned out to be fake. Yeah, of course. And like literally it should have been a sponsored segment for like elder abuse on the internet. Like AI is so dangerous.

54:36Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Well, we're going to get into the Beverly Hills recap, but first our fifth and final story,

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57:29Claudia Oshry:Our fifth and final story, Emily Blunt is getting some backlash for her, quote, awful career advice. So Emily Blunt is being slammed on social media for telling fans to quit their jobs and settle for making no money. Basically, she did a YouTube interview with Betches where she was asked if she has advice for, quote, women who are hating their jobs right now. She said, quit. No. And then she laughed and added, just find something that you deeply want to do. Even if you're earning no money, as long as you love it, you'll be happy. So fans are calling out her awful career advice, noting that it's easy for her to say.

58:03Claudia Oshry:$80 million net worth, blah, blah, blah. People saying that could only be said by an overprivileged person. people calling her entitled out of touch etc no matter what she said people weren't gonna want the

58:15Jackie Oshry:advice because like it's coming from a place of privilege because what what if she said well that's too bad you gotta earn a living stay at your miserable job like what the fuck was she

58:24Claudia Oshry:gonna say no and it's like kim got canceled for saying nobody wants to work these days get your

58:28Jackie Oshry:fucking ass up and work that's bad you can't talk about remote work versus in office it's like a cancelable offense we know you so even jackie reese witherspoon was trying to help women with ai and she got backlash like there's actually don't want to hear it there is no answer to this

58:44Claudia Oshry:question that will not get you hate so actually like betches set her up with that because she's actually giving like the soft answer for wokey's quit do what you love and now but who cares about bills yeah money is a construct right just steal yeah but if she like literally getting hate for that i'm actually shocked she's getting hate for this answer because this is the sort of thing like keyboard warriors like actually want they don't want to be told hard things like get to work you know slap a smile on your face it's a bad question they set her up they seriously trapped her a hundred percent they have something against her because like what is your advice for women what was the question what's your advice who are for women who are currently hating their jobs

59:29Jackie Oshry:i mean there's literally no good answer because you could say like just get over it or you have a living to make and you could say oh yeah quit and money's a construct like that's actually just bad advice i want to say like people work because they have to not because they want to yeah there's no good answer it's a bad question it's a bad question i wouldn't even like endeavor

59:50Claudia Oshry:to answer it now you know there's no right answer suck it up and the thing is nobody wants to hear from me nobody wants to hear from Emily Blunt either no because she doesn't I think they are like trying to make it because like Emily and Andy were in a job you guys it's a movie is everyone feeling okay like it's a movie she didn't actually play like an abused assistant I guess this would

1:00:12Jackie Oshry:be a good question for like Emma Greed who's currently on like a world tour for her book

1:00:16Claudia Oshry:yeah people don't want to hear what she has to say about it either because they're not going to like what she has to say she's a hard three hours a week she's a tough cookie what do you think about

1:00:23Jackie Oshry:three hours a week she and it sucks because like she wrote this whole book about her life and it has been reduced to this like one thing was it three hours a week or three hours a day

1:00:32Claudia Oshry:week so she's a she's with her kids three hours a week she said that's what she said she's very

1:00:36Jackie Oshry:open about the fact that she spends no time with her kids she has three and they're you know of course well taken care of they have nannies they have a staff they have extracurriculars they have a horse like but they don't technically have a present mother i didn't realize it was three

1:00:49Claudia Oshry:hours a week i thought it was three hours a day which three hours a day for like a working mom

1:00:54Jackie Oshry:is actually a lot yeah moms only get like the hour before bed yeah so and no it's three hours

1:01:00Claudia Oshry:a week that's low yeah that's low and like you are a billionaire now so like isn't the

1:01:08Jackie Oshry:exciting part of being a billionaire that like you can spend time with your kids i think there are a lot of women who are open about the fact that like they don't want to work less and they want to have balance but like do you want to see your kids at all what about the weekends like how

1:01:19Claudia Oshry:is it three hours including the weekends she talks about the weekends because that's what people say

1:01:23Jackie Oshry:and she's like i saw a clip of her talking about it but i just assumed it was three hours a day

1:01:28Claudia Oshry:and i was like so it's three hours a day she'll like that's actually pretty good for like a billionaire yeah for someone who's like working full-time trying to like build shit yeah um so what'd she say about the weekends what she said about the weekends is that she like can't

1:01:43Jackie Oshry:completely unplug and there's still she also things she wants to do for herself right i mean

1:01:47Claudia Oshry:when are you gonna get your nails done when are you gonna go see the doctor catch up socially not but like there's so many just little things you know gotta run errands yeah of course it adds up

1:01:57Jackie Oshry:get a wax yeah i thought that was like brave of her i don't judge but i would never show that

1:02:02Claudia Oshry:she's obviously very confident in herself and and her parenting skills and you know it takes a confident person to say that yeah and someone who's pleased with how things are going for her and her family to be like this is how I do it and it's working out great so I'm sure it is working out I'm sure I'm sure she's got it on lock has it always been that way did she say like even when she had little babies she didn't mention she they're not that old like they're little kids still yeah I guess it's like the truth you know if you want to like crush life as a woman like

1:02:33Jackie Oshry:yeah you're not going to see your kids and I saw actually like a lot of discourse um about it on TikTok of like, you know, from kids who had really ambitious moms and it was really divided. A lot of the people were like, no, I'm obsessed with my mom. She instilled this insane sense of ambition in me and like she was a role model. And and then other people being like, well, we just wanted her to come home. Like, that's all we really cared about. Ambition, shmambition.

1:02:56Claudia Oshry:Yeah, that's like when people do something really big and they're like, I want my kids to see me follow my dreams. No.

1:03:03Jackie Oshry:And sometimes I feel like it does leave a lasting impression on the kids. and sometimes the kid just wants you to come home.

1:03:08Claudia Oshry:I don't think they noticed. Well, some of the TikTok girls were saying that they did. No, but it depends on the age of the kids. It depends on the dream. But I feel like sometimes people do selfish things and they're like, it's good for my kids to see me following my dream. Oh, yeah.

1:03:19Jackie Oshry:No, it has become just like a thing people say. It's a former truth that's now just like a thing people say.

1:03:25Claudia Oshry:It's like, I don't know if that registered for them. That like, mom, okay, I didn't get to see her all day. But she's there too. She's following her dream. Okay, all good.

1:03:34Jackie Oshry:Let's talk about the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills part two reunion. It should have been the final part. They really don't need three parts for this reunion. But it was very Amanda Francis heavy.

1:03:43Claudia Oshry:I'm enjoying it.

1:03:44Jackie Oshry:Me too. Especially now that Jennifer Tilly and Kathy showed up. And my workload has been light recently.

1:03:49Claudia Oshry:So I don't mind tuning in on a Thursday for Hobo.

1:03:53Jackie Oshry:I was really shocked. I mean, it was not a major reunion. This wasn't a major moment. But I was curious to see how the conversation between Sutton and Jennifer Tilly was going to go. because Jennifer Tilly is such a good friend. And when they compiled all the moments where like Sutton barked at her this season, it was kind of painful to watch. Like she's a really nice woman, Jennifer Tilly. And the fact that Jennifer Tilly apologized was shocking to me.

1:04:16Claudia Oshry:Yeah, I just think their friendship is like so much deeper than the show. More important, yeah. Even if Sutton was like acting out of turn, like Jennifer knows her well enough. And like being with your friend on a show like this, like I just think it speaks to having a real friendship and like not kicking someone when they're down. just because like you went crazy didn't mean that I needed to go and like open my mouth to people that don't like you, you know?

1:04:37Jackie Oshry:Yeah, but the apology should have been bigger and first from Sutton for like being so demeaning to her friend.

1:04:42Claudia Oshry:Yeah, yeah.

1:04:44Jackie Oshry:Now, I thought it was a really interesting like window into Kyle and Mauricio. I feel like I have a better understanding now because their situation is extremely bizarre. He has no interest in getting back together with her. I think she would if he would, but they're not moving forward with the divorce legally. And it's so clearly a financial thing because Kyle is 100 % right. I feel like when we talk about like, like the whole stay at home mom culture, like she's literally the embodiment of like, he is only successful because she held it the fuck down. And yes, he did launch the agency like marketing wise on Beverly Hills Housewives, but more so they have four children.

1:05:17Jackie Oshry:Like he was able to build this business and he's pretty young. So successfully because she was at home holding it down. Like, let's be real.

1:05:23Claudia Oshry:But also because of the, she wasn't just at home. Like she was working. It was her name.

1:05:28Jackie Oshry:it was her show it was her circle of friends her sister too people don't forget Mauricio started at Hilton and Highland and that was kind of like the yeah initial but it's like her she gave him

1:05:40Claudia Oshry:the platform and the launching pad via the show and her connections to build the agency so it's not even just because she was home raising the kids which of course like is a full-time job of course should be compensated in a situation like this but like the agency would not be the agency if he were not married to Kyle and on Beverly Hills, period.

1:05:56Jackie Oshry:She is entitled to like exactly half. Like she is an equal partner. And I feel as though just like now my take on the situation is that he's definitely manipulating and using the fact that like Kyle still like holds a candle for him and would love for her family to get back together. Using that like sort of glimmer of hope to not file and using, Kyle's being very generous because she absolutely can and should walk away with half the company. I think that would be devastating for Mauricio. And so, yeah, they don't have to yet because neither one of them are dating someone. And I don't know if Mauricio will ever get married again.

1:06:30Jackie Oshry:I could see them being, who was that woman? Diana.

1:06:33Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

1:06:35Jackie Oshry:Were they, were she ever legally divorced?

1:06:36Claudia Oshry:Oh, I don't know. Diana Jenkins.

1:06:38Jackie Oshry:Remember she like, she got half of her billionaire husbands, everything. But I don't know if they ever got divorced. I think they still share.

1:06:45Claudia Oshry:I thought she was with a new guy. They were having babies. She was dating that guy, Angel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I guess for Mauricio, he really has to choose, like, what's more important to him, like, his freedom or his business. Right, and I think right now it's his freedom, but he's still, I'm sorry, it's his business, but he still gets his freedom.

1:07:00Jackie Oshry:That's what Rachel Zoe was saying. We see it sometimes publicly, but I think it's worse. Rachel was like, I see him out every single night. He's living a completely different life. And Kyle's, like, sitting at home thinking that maybe one day they'll get back together.

1:07:10Claudia Oshry:Yeah, but, like, if Kyle were to drop the hammer and be like, okay, like, I'm filing and I'm taking half of the agency, like, would he come home?

1:07:19Jackie Oshry:No.

1:07:20Claudia Oshry:So his freedom is more important than his business.

1:07:22Jackie Oshry:But she should lay the hammer down. She has nothing to, he stands to lose half, she stands to gain a lot. Like, she'll be fine. Yeah, but she, you know, she's officially losing her family. And she doesn't want that. And you know what, when I watched that scene back at Amanda's house, I remember thinking her reaction was like kind of nutty. But like seeing Portia at that desk, it was actually, it was heartbreaking. No, it was heartbreaking.

1:07:44Claudia Oshry:And of course, like the underlying thread is like, if they never moved into the big fancy house, if they never like, you know, just moved on up in this world and they just live, continue their simple life, like, would they still be together? If they never left that house.

1:07:55Jackie Oshry:And Kyle really believes that, yeah, she said if they had moved to Vail and he became a ski instructor. They would still be together. She blames like the fame and the fortune on their demise.

1:08:06Claudia Oshry:If they hadn't left that house, would they still be together?

1:08:10Jackie Oshry:I think the house, like, well, they still would have ascended into like a different rank of wealth and a different like circle of people. So I don't think it was the house. It's what the house represents.

1:08:20Claudia Oshry:Yeah. So I think for her, that's really painful to just like be in a place that were the best years of your life. And you can't get it back. No, it's really sad. But I did understand his reaction more. Now, when I watch it, I was like, wow, he could give two fucks about all of this. But her explaining like he's really just interested in the property and what they've done with it. And that's his I can I can see that like, oh, hey, it's not emotional for him.

1:08:43Jackie Oshry:It's just it's just that he's obviously emotionally disconnected. from Kyle and their former life and she's so connected to it and that is just like you're never gonna work when that's the case.

1:08:57Claudia Oshry:So yeah, Amanda Francis. I kind of like her. I like her too. And I feel like I also like forget she's kind of a new mama, you know.

1:09:07Jackie Oshry:Yeah, and she's young.

1:09:07Claudia Oshry:She's young. I think she has a baby. She has a lot of kids like she's just doing her best, you know. Yeah, I don't either. And she is like the breadwinner of her family. like that's a lot of pressure like pressure i think she's five kids she's the sole provider they're living in beverly hills like mama's gotta hustle and i sort of appreciate her overall

1:09:26Jackie Oshry:demeanor of like anytime she's accused of like being corny or like showing off her bags she's just like yeah well i thought that's what we're supposed to do this is like a show about rich

1:09:33Claudia Oshry:women yeah i feel like i feel like she doesn't hide yeah she owned all of her stuff when someone said to her like i didn't like you did that she's like okay yeah she apologized to dorit and i thought

1:09:42Jackie Oshry:But also Dorit owed her a little bit of an apology. Like it just would have been nice. I just want to say. Like the night at Rachel's owes. Like I'm sorry. Like just to say Dorit didn't apologize for anything. And I'm actually firmly team Dorit. But like it's okay to apologize for like little things. I agree.

1:09:55Claudia Oshry:I think it's important to apologize sometimes. Because no one's right. So that was like a big check in Amanda's column.

1:10:01Jackie Oshry:I forget what it was for. But she was like oh no you're right. I'm sorry.

1:10:03Claudia Oshry:And I maintain. I felt this way watching the season. And I thought it was because I like wasn't paying enough attention. But I maintain that like Amanda speaking at the table. after like other people said it and then she said it too and now it's like Amanda's big crime everybody needs to fucking let it go Sutton said it Kyle yeah Amanda said it like who cares that Amanda said it the point is she doesn't know these people it hurts more when it's your real friends saying stuff about you so like it's really not a big deal everyone harping on it for episodes this season that you know she took what you said and said it like shut up I find it really boring and it's like really not that deep.

1:10:38Claudia Oshry:Also Amanda,

1:10:39Jackie Oshry:Bose to me has only really had like one bad moment and it keeps getting worse. She shouldn't have come for Amanda like at all. And now we're talking about like her short tenure and her answer to Andy about CMOs are supposed to be short tenure was really bad. I've never like thought anything negatively about her career. Like she's boss, boss, boss. And now like that answer made me want to do a deep dive. Like that's not true. no and then when not only her saying that they're supposed to be short tenure but that like when things go wrong in a company more often than not the cmo gets blamed that's just well she said two

1:11:13Claudia Oshry:completely convicting things she said yeah they were short jobs because it was mission accomplished came in did the mission i'm out which isn't also you're getting blamed but if you're doing a good job like no one would let you go the stock doesn't fall no that was and then she said well sometimes you get blamed for when things go wrong so you said two different things and when chat gpt did say that like that is a valid criticism like working for so many companies like isn't for such a short yep you know then like you're just going different places until you're found out yeah no

1:11:45Jackie Oshry:and it's like i don't want to look into it but i fear that your answer sort of intrigued me and

1:11:50Claudia Oshry:also everyone like using chat gbt as the end all be all like first of all when she said to her chat gbt who is bosom of saint john chat knows that you are bosom of saint john so do you think yeah chat knows who you are who they know they're talking to you if you ever sent them a contract that's scary say what's my name what's my full name

1:12:15Jackie Oshry:i don't actually have access to your personal identity unless you explicitly tell me in conversation if you'd like me to use a specific name just tell me let me see if my chat knows my name how would they not know what's my name i said full name you haven't told me your name in this conversation so i actually don't know it oh what's my name your name is jackie and you use chat a lot uh so much like more than i do and also i would imagine bo's uses chat a

1:12:43Claudia Oshry:lot because that's her first instinct is let's ask chat gbt yes she must yeah yeah so like if ever had chat format an email from you with the right from your name like i actually haven't and

1:12:54Jackie Oshry:i also haven't said chat a contract so maybe i actually have not just actually told them my name that's crazy good for you should i say should i say my name is john well you know what you could

1:13:08Claudia Oshry:ask chad about bosoma you ask chad yeah who asked chad i don't need to know the thing is like i had I know suspicions about her. Her chat is tailored to hype her up is all I'm saying. Of course, that's what Andy was saying. Her being shocked that they got different answers.

1:13:24Jackie Oshry:It's not shocking at all. But she should stop barking up that tree because the only time she's ever looked bad is coming for Amanda. And I love how she's giving this like actually brain dead answer about CMOs being short tenure. And Dorit's sitting there nodding. She's so supportive. Yes, exactly. CMO. And Dorit should because that's her best friend.

1:13:42Claudia Oshry:Like you should support your friends even when they're wrong. I firmly do believe that. Yeah, of course. And also just like last week, her saying that her business wasn't a failure, was actually a charity exercise. Like the spin. The spin coming from her.

1:13:59Jackie Oshry:An online course is an online course because it's not free. Yeah. If it was free, that's a charitable endeavor. She said it's something she loses money on.

1:14:08Claudia Oshry:Yeah, it should be free. Hysterical.

1:14:11Jackie Oshry:yeah kind of a bad look for bows and she really has not had a bad look like since her time on the

1:14:17Claudia Oshry:show started yeah but she just like went too hard with amanda and at the end of the day it's like people want to buy her courses like what's the problem it's punching down too like you're up here like yeah with your uber pepsico like like let the little course girl go let the course go let her like who is she hurting with her courses like people have free will well new york magazine

1:14:39Jackie Oshry:just did like a big article. They say that she's like a grifter who's like funding her own life, like manipulating women into buying her courses. But free will, like sorry.

1:14:48Claudia Oshry:And like, I believe women are smart, you know? I think that like that works if you think women have like no agency and don't know what to do with themselves or their money or their time. But like, I think that you can pick and choose what you want to do. And if you want to choose amandafrancis.com.

1:15:04Jackie Oshry:Go ahead. What else happened this reunion?

1:15:07Claudia Oshry:Erica like piped in a little bit to defend Dorit which I appreciated on the point that I could care less about I know I know but I need them to work it out I know but you could tell there's a lot of love there I know there's no love between Kyle and Dorit and it's like Erica got set off and got really nasty in Italy and so like she was wrong even the way even when she was just like why are you talking to your kids we all have kids you think yours are more important like blah blah blah like she was she like lost I think any sympathy there but like Dorit obviously set her off and like Dorit can't apologize for saying like whatever she said that brought Erica to that level, you know?

1:15:41Jackie Oshry:No, Dorit's incapable of taking ownership of like small things and that will be her downfall because I think overall she has been wronged by her friends, but she's also not perfect, the showing up late and she can't just like apologize being like, oh, I'm so sorry. Like it's so fucking rude to be late. It is my biggest pet peeve. If you're a chronically late person, I'm sorry, that's just you saying like I am more important. Like I agree with what everyone's saying. so just apologize like it's so little we don't think you're trying to hurt people so like the fact that she can't even give like one little apology everyone in the group is saying I'm sorry for that yeah she can't even do that it's pissing me off yeah agreed but she looks great she does look great her hair looks like fabulous I love the bangle on her everyone's glam I think Kyle looks really beautiful me too and she looks young like she is a 50-60 something year old woman wearing a sleeveless dress her arms look killer her face looks tight like she looks good erica looks beautiful always glam like to i fucking love that jennifer

1:16:40Claudia Oshry:tilly yeah sutton looks very good and when they flash back to i don't know if because you were watching on your phone they flash back to last reunion when they were talking about the drinking and you can see i miss that you can see she looks much better and i i feel like it's because of the drinking yeah well that'll do it yeah i mean talk about an over like if you want to just Just look better.

1:17:03Jackie Oshry:Mm-hmm. Drink less. No can do, my friend. You don't drink a lot.

1:17:08Claudia Oshry:I'm not talking to you.

1:17:09Jackie Oshry:No, I don't. I had like half a glass of wine last night.

1:17:11Claudia Oshry:Slay. Red wine? No. You posted a cup of red wine.

1:17:15Jackie Oshry:Oh, well, because I just posted a picture at the table and everyone was commenting. I guess the guy sitting next to me had like the biggest, you're supposed to fill a glass of red wine, like max half. It was filled to the brim. So I was just like remarking on it because everyone was like cracking up at that glass of wine.

1:17:32Claudia Oshry:Oh, that's really funny. People, eagle hide viewers.

1:17:34Jackie Oshry:I know. So part three, like, sure, whatever. That's all I have. Yeah. Well, the place looks beautiful. Well, it always does. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast the Millennium Morning Show. We deliver fast-paced stories. You need to know every Monday, Friday, and YouTube. So you're watching us on YouTube. Please don't forget to subscribe. We give us a thumbs up. Also available as podcasts and where podcasts can be found. on Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher, Public Radio, I-Radio, Podcast, Fox, all the places we have in the center podcast. Find us at the TOS, leave a five-star review about a beautiful setting and wickedly talented we are.

1:18:03Claudia Oshry:Love ya, bye.

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